June 24, 2024 • 39 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Chris discuss whether LeBron James short-changed NBA fans by never participating in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest and why Micah Parsons is spot-on when he says that criticism is a privilege. Plus, GoLongTD.com founder Tyler Dunne swings by to discuss his report that Mike McCarthy has gotten ‘fed up’ with Jerry Jones, the likelihood that Dak Prescott ends up signing a long-term extension with the club, the vibes around the Dallas Cowboys organization and much more!
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
So we'll talk to him in about thirty minutes. That'll
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Speaker 1 (01:12):
But Lebron today on Twitter or X. If you are
on X and follow it closely, you may have seen
that video of Lebron James and Obie Topping just having
kind of a fun I wouldn't even say it was
a dunk contest, but you know, kind of competing a
(01:34):
little bit after their workout doing some different dunks.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Rob G.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
This kind of went viral and a lot of sparked
a lot of conversation, kind of summarized for us what happened.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Right, So, the two guys were having what they were
describing as a dunk off, and Obie Topping, you overcall
was a slam dunk champion a couple of years ago.
Lebron James is currently a podcaster, so it's not surprising
that Obie Topping not anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
The podcast is dead. We'll see. We'll see about that.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
So not surprising though if you watch the five videos,
a secret.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Closet hater for his own Lakers. That's not true at all.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
But any event, if you watch the clip, Obie Topping
clearly gets the better of Lebron James. And the reason
why the Lebron is thirty nine, and that's exactly the point.
The reason why it went viral is because near like
the end of the video, which they splicely about a
minute long, and about the forty second mark, Lebron looks
at him as the guys, I'm too old for this,
and he just kind of concedes that he can't keep
(02:36):
up with the young legs anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, So I think to me, Martin, and there's always
been this debate and really criticism of Lebron for never competing.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
In the Slam Dunk Contest.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And I did definitely think he would, you know, when
he first entered the league. Remember the commercials, Remember when
he had the four Lebron's. A lot of people forget
about that, sure, and one of them he was doing
all these dunks, and so you thought he would be
in the dunk contest. I think he won the dunk
contest at the McDonald's All American Game, if I'm not mistaken,
(03:12):
but the high school game. But I didn't feel like
a lot of people felt, you know, like he was
very criticized by a lot of people for not following
in Michael Jordan's footsteps and Dominique Wilkins and guys like that.
And my thing was this, Martin, and I think I
think ultimately this is why Lebron never competed in it.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I don't think he would have been great in it.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Lebron obviously isn't as graceful of a you know, an
athlete as a Kobe Bryant, Evince Carter of Michael Jordan,
and those are the guys that their dunks look better, right,
because they're so graceful. I think Lebron because he's he
(04:00):
is big, you know, at six ' eight, and he
is obviously muscular and.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Thick and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I think for him to win the dunk Contest, now
he here's a caveat if he were if he had
been in it in a down year, he probably would
have won, sure, right because Blake Griffin, who was one
of the best game dunkers ever, he didn't win.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
He won the.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Dunk Contest, but it was kind of a down year.
I know people went crazy jumped over Akia, but you
know it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I didn't think he put on that great of a show.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I think for Lebron to win the Dunk Contest and
be great in it, he would have to do incredibly
creative athletic feats like Dwight Howard, like Dwhite.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Shocked me.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I thought Dwight put on on greatest Yeah, I thought
he put on one of the greatest shows ever in
the dunk contest, and it was because he was so creative.
If he had gone up there and done just dunks,
kind of con I hate to say conventional, but you know,
conventional slam dunk contest dunks, it wouldn't have looked as
(05:16):
good because he was so big and he was not
as graceful as smaller guys. But I mean, he's throwing
it off the side of the backboard, he was the
first to do that, and then catching and dunk. He's
jumping from out of bounds like he put on a show.
And I think that's the type of stuff Lebron would
have had to do to really do great in the
dunk contest. Sure, so I never faulted him for not
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being in it, and I think he understood that.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
It also takes a level of coordination, and obviously Lebron
is coordinated, but it takes it's different when you're going
through the air trying to manipulate the ball at the
same time, like when I was. Now, I'm not comparing
myself to that level, but that was no Seriously, though
I could dunk all types of ways.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Oh oh really, yeah, when I was a high school
show Wow, Now, but how tall are you? About six two? Okay?
And you had nasty dunks?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
That was I could funny, funny enough, I could jump,
And I tried to model my game after freshman year,
JJ Reddick. I was trying to shoot and not dribble,
like I was trying to come off screens. As soon
as I put the ball floor more than four times,
I got in trouble.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Right, yeah, hops, I thought, yeah, you should have worked
on that hand on been attacking the rack.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I should have been doing a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
But to the point I would catch rebound tip dunks
or you know something like that. Like but if you
asked me, if you gave me a ball at half
court and said, Martin impressed me on a dunk, it
would have been it would have been a disaster. Now,
if you shot the ball from the other side, I'm
staying at the other three point line, I could come
in and look at it in the air and time
it off the rim. Then I could do all you know,
I could right hand, left, hand to hand, whatever you want.
(06:46):
But so were you ever in a dunk contest?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Because I didn't have the coordination.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Like I didn't have the coordination with I could get
up there, but it doesn't do me no good to
get up there and then have the ball somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Flying across the rim, you know, out a boat.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
And also to your point about being tall in a
dunk contest, you could either do like the Dwight Howard
route or do to Aaron Gordon route where you're picking
your ads, which was.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Similar to Dwight and that he did. You know, he
had a lot of props. But Aaron Gordon, that is
arguably that him and Zach Levine was probably the best
dunk contest ever. But I with all due respect to
Jordan and Nick, I mean it just you know, especially
if you just want to break it up into the air,
it's definitely the best dunk contest in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
If you want to just you know, that is ridiculous,
but go you have to go do something like go
under your knees.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Have you picked your knees up to your chest so
that way everybody This sounds dumb.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
To say out loud, but everybody can see how.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
High you are, right because it's easy to see how high, uh,
you know, a guard is when they jump up there,
like giving a guy like Zach Levine. It's easy to see, oh,
because you see how far they are from the ground.
You gotta do something that manipulates your size as well
as do something with the ball coordinated. So, like, could
(08:01):
Lebron have been in the dunk contest and had a
good showing. I think so absolutely, especially when you're thinking
back to his first Cleveland run or Miami run where
he would do that that that Patton and tomahawk where
he hold the ball way out there.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That's not gonna that's not now. Look because it was Lebron,
it would have drawn oohs and odds. No, it's not
dun Yeah, that's not. But Lebron is talking about.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
When he was at any point where he was jumping
that high and if he had the ability to like
take that ball and come behind his back and dunk
it with the left hand or something like that. Sure,
but I just think it's a it's a unique skill
that not everybody has well.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But if you dunk a lot, like and I was,
I could dunk, but I couldn't dunk. I never could
would try to dunk in the game because I miss
most of the dunks I would do try to do
in practice.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But I could dunk here and there.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
But I used to dunk on like smaller rims, you know,
nine foot rims, stuff like that, Right, And as you
do more that you do get more used to You're right,
Like initially you don't you think you if you can
just get over the rim, you can do all sorts
of stuff. But as you do it more and more,
you get used to doing different moves and stuff up there.
(09:10):
But again, I think Lebron probably does have some stuff.
But when you dunk, also like a Jordan, Michael Jordan
or Vince Carter, they're dunks. They just look great because
of their body movements and their grace.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
And it's like I've.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Said this before, they could do the same dunk as
somebody else, but it would look better when they do it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
It's like Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You could learn Michael Jackson's moves, but it's gonna look
better when he did it, you know, just because he
had the greats and the moves. And so I think
it's that way with those two guys. But Lebron is
a fantastic game dunker. But that's the thing. There's a
difference between great game dunkers and dunk un test dunkers.
(10:01):
When during the time when everybody wanted him to be
in it, when he was in his prime. Were you
one of those that was critical of him for not
being in it. You know, some people said he was scared,
or he's cheating the game, or whatever it might be.
Like I said, I understood it. I didn't think it
was a big deal, but a lot of people did.
The criticism I do have not necessarily.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
It's I think when Lebron went in that and decided
not to do it, it showed like there was something
wrong or like false, or it's a mark against your
legacy or record or whatever if you somehow came in
second or third in the dunk contest, which I think
is nonsensical and silly. So I think that I think
(10:43):
Lebron not deciding not to do it basically gave I
think it's something that all the young stars in the
NBA should do, like I wanted, like John Moran, I
want to see it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I want to see Anthony Edwards. I want to see
the guys. You could have a fantastic one.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You mentioned some of them, Jah, Anthony Edwards, Zion and
and maybe one of the old heads like Aaron Gordon
or Levine. If they still got those hops, but you
you could have a tremendous dunk contest. Heck, Derrek Jones
Juniors is nasty. He's one of the dunkers that we've seen.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
But you know, the NBA went to this part where
it was trying to like basically use the dunk contest
to help try to like make new stars.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Well that's because the stars wouldn't be in it.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
And I think when Lebron did that, when Lebron said
I'm not gonna do it, it gave everybody else that's.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
A good point. And I will give you I think
that is a great point. Lebron not doing it, You're right,
kind of gave all the other.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Star everybody else out do I have to do it?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Because before that was critic Doctor j had been in it,
Jordan Dominique, Vince, Kobe McGrady, Like, you're right, all those
guys that you know were great dunkers were in it,
and that that's something I had not really thought about before.
But when Lebron decided not to do it, it's like
(12:06):
since then is when the big names just kind of
stopped doing it. For the most part, you still get
an occasional one but yeah, I agree like it. It
shouldn't have been if I don't win it, cause I
think Lebron may have felt like, what do I have
the game?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
If I win it, I'm supposed to win it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
If I lose it, people just gonna be ripping me,
you know what I mean, Like, because I was supposed
to win. That's why Martin, like, you know, one event
that would be I think people would love this at
All Star weekend would be like a one on one contest,
like a tournament, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But no way guys would do it. And I gotta
be honest, I understand why guys wouldn't do it. If
you are a top.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Player in the league or maybe viewed as the best,
what do you have to gain by being in it
and winning nothing? Because everybody already thinks you're the best.
But if you lose, now you're taking a bit of
a hit.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You know.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It's just to me the idea that you have to
that it is a black mark on your resume. If
you get crossed up in a one on one game
during All Star Weekend, or if you lose a dunk
contest or something like that, we've.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Gone too well.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I think dunk contest is different than one on one.
If let's say they had a one on one tournament, right,
and I'm just gonna throw out the name Tyres Halliburton
cooked Kyrie. Now I don't think that would happen, but
let's just say it, right, Kyrie's viewed is the most
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skilled guy in the league, one of the most skilled ever,
handles galore like and he got used. Don't don't tell
me that wouldn't hurt a guy's brand or legacy. That's
different than the dunk contest to me. To me, but
we got it so that you, guys, what do they
have to gain. It's the overall health of the league.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
It's the overall health, like the idea like, because in
the last twenty years, NBA All Star Weekend has not
mattered near like twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
It mattered in a way, it does not matter now.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
The reason why is because guys, for whatever reason, whether
it's the brand, whether it's their fear, whatever, they don't
want to play. They don't want to participate in these
different games. And that's why now you can I mean
I used to watch, we used to record the Dunk
Contest and three all that All Star weekends stuff and
continually watch. I burned out the VHS tape when I
was a kid watching it now now I'm watching.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It with my phone out.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
If I'm watching it at all, I'll just catch the
highlights on Twitter. I will be watching. That's something I
would care about. They want to tellivivise the draft for
two days? How about your face? That's just the All
Star weekend for two days. Yeah, there are a lot
of reasons.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
We've talked about it before why All Star weekends just
not close to what it used to be.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But that is one. I mean. But like I said,
I would love.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
For the dunk has to be resurrected, but one on
one it would be awesome.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
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Speaker 3 (16:38):
Lebron Dunk contest your thoughts. Let's go to Raphael in Cincinnati.
Here on The Odd Couple. Ralph what you got.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
What's going on, brothers. Yeah, I'm not in no hurry
to see Lebron in a dunk contest, even when his
first three years in the league that's when he should
have got in. I think the reasons why he didn't
get in it is Lebron he's an in game dunker,
he just doesn't have the flare around the rim because
of the body mask. As well, Lebron is not one
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that levitates like some of the great dunkers in the past.
He has decent sized hands and everything, but Lebron's body
mask keeps him from levitating, hanging in the air to
do some of the side to side and you know,
underlegs and everything like that. And I think the other
reason why he never got in is because Lebron and
when he came into the league, he was all about
building this brand and to just be kind of like outdone,
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outshine in a dunk contest with his dunks that were
primarily going to be boring, his sledgehammers and things like that.
But I just think that Lebron wasn't him and Rich
Paul and then were like, look, you don't want to
get shown up in the dunk contest. You're Brian, we're
building it right now. So I think those are the
reasons why Lebron never got in.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I tend to agree with that.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Yeah, uh, I think another reason real quick. I know
y'all got other callers, but overall, the dunk contest, I
think think it does need to go. I think guys
they just don't have the athleticism overall for the dunks
coupled with all the dunk wait.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
The guys, the guys today.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Yeah, yeah, they don't have the athletics. Yeah, with the
big calls and the ones that's gonna levitate, see like
Levine Jordan.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, but all you do, get smaller, get the players
that like some of the players can do that stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I think, Martin quickly because we want to get to
the callers.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
To me, the reason why so many dunks are missed
today is guys are trying stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
That is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I mean, and I'll give them credit for that, Like,
I mean, let's just keep it real.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And I love the.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Jordanique dunk contests and all that stuff. They weren't doing
close to the stuff that these guys are.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Doing it now. They didn't miss Vince, but great, they
didn't miss. They made it on the first try.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
But now guys are trying stuff that is so incredibly
creative and difficult that they they might make two out
of four of them, you know, as they're practicing them,
and because they're just so so unique.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
So I think that's one of the challenges. Let's go
to Mike and Augusta. You're on the couple on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Hey, guys, thanks taking my call.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Ye.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Yeah, I don't hold anything against Lebron for not, you know,
being in a dark contest, because he's so he's so big.
It wouldn't have been graceful. It have been kind of
like Magic Johnson Duncan.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
But what I wish I wouldn't go that.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
I wish they would bring back the All Star Game.
You know, I still YouTube the game from one when
the East came back by twenty and and the Kenbay
was guarding Kobe to stop the game when he shot.
I still love the dunk contest. The g leaguer that
that won two years in a row, the er staying
(19:59):
to me, no, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I still like it even with the no names, as
long as they can do some great dunks. But it
would be better with the superstars, even if they didn't
dunk quite as well as the quote unquote no names.
It would be just more drama, right if you had
Jah going against Anthony Edwards, even if they weren't better
(20:23):
dunkers than say, you know, a Derrick Jones Junior or something.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I feel like, I don't want to see you in
any of these contests unless you're also in the All
Star Game. Really well, yeah, that'd be mine. I'd rather
see all stars out there doing it. It's never been
the case, but I just well, we're at a place
now where we got Mac McClung, who's played like four
consecutors with that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But hey, hey, you ain't with me when I say
thank God for Mac mcclun because if he wasn't in
the dunk contest, the last two would have been horrific.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I mean, it's you know what though, shout out to
Jalen Brown got two MVPs Eastern Conference MVP Finals, MVP
and I went into the dunk context.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, nah, I.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Are you absolutely right? I respect that. Now, he wasn't great,
but I respect you know, his hustle.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
He wasn't great.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Nobody makes fun of it for it because you know why,
he'll just do like this and hold up his third
finger and say catch the ring.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah. But he also isn't on that level either. Let's
just keep it real like he you.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Know what I'm saying, Like he's not on the level
where people were gonna rip h. Lebron was on a
different level and I'm not, you know, I'm just saying
he wasn't on.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
The level like Lebron where he gotta win everything.
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Speaker 9 (22:00):
Chris Man, it is good to be back. Great to
hear you, and I feel like you've been in my
life a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Today.
Speaker 9 (22:07):
Just listen to your pod with Ethan Strauss, which was
thank you so.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Much for having me, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yes, go check that out Ethan Strauss. I was on
his podcast today. It was a great interview, a lot
of fun with him and you. I mean, man, what
an article you released on your substack about the Cowboys
and Mike McCarthy kind of tiring of the Jerry Jones
show kind of tell us like, how did is this
(22:33):
something that you thought might be the case and started
asking around about it or is it just something in
your you know, discussions with people around the league came
out like how did you come about this story?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And then kind of give us the details of what's
really going on.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
There no doubt.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Yeah. So three years ago, I want to say twenty
twenty one, I did a three part series on Jerry's
world and what it's really like inside that building, which
I think we all have an idea that it's bizarre
and outlandish and let's just say immoral off the field.
(23:13):
So a lot of that detail kind of blew my mind.
And I just just this offseason as it kind of
dragged along and we're seeing these other quarterbacks get paid
and other star players get contract extensions, and the Dallas
Cowboys are just sitting on their hands. I mean, this
is the richest sports franchise in the freaking world any sport,
(23:35):
and they're not paying their own It kind of blew
my mind, and I reached back out to some of
the sources that I talked to for that series, and
it blew their minds. You know, a couple in particular,
they're not there anymore, but they were there for a
long time. They sat at that draft table right next
to Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones. They've they've been involved
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in some high profile decisions with the franchise, and look,
they really like Jerry too. In a lot of ways.
I think people who have been through there, they have
a lot of good things to say about the ownership,
but they just shake their head and they roll their
eyes and they say nothing has changed. You know, three
decades into this thing, and we can take this a
lot of different directions, but I guess in the now,
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I think the push and poll is Jerry Jones would
like to spend and Stephen Jones does not. He doesn't
want to get caught up into dead money, dead cash,
and they're terrified about paying people not to work, and
that is just a cost of doing business in today's NFL.
If you're interested in winning, you've got to make those
kind of moves. And they could have paid Dak Prescott
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what fifty a shade over fifty MILLI year earlier this
offseason told dek look, let's get your number down this
year and we'll get you a weapon, We'll get you
a line, and we'll get you some house.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Right.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
They haven't done any of that, and now they're just
screwing themselves.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Tyler Martin Wise here A big fan of yourself, Stack
and I appreciate what you do, like with the three
part series, specially last.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Year with the bills and all that.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
That's the type of stuff I grew up reading and
the types of the maybe want to be in this business.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
So I appreciate the fact that you're keeping it alive.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
But to the point of what's happening right now in Dallas,
is it simply Mike McCarthy's roster is hamstrung by those decisions,
and that's why what you were reporting saying he might
be a little getting a little tired of having to
deal with the back and forth between father and son.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
There McCarthy, I appreciate to reading everybody out there for subscribing.
I think that, yeah, that's that's definitely the frustration, and there's.
Speaker 10 (25:36):
Just always that that feeling that at any moment Jerry
or Steven are going to do with Jerry or Stephen want.
I mean, it's and you see this in all sports obviously,
but the best owners are willing to spend.
Speaker 9 (25:50):
And they stay the hell out of the way. Uh,
the Dallas Cowboys will spend, but not necessarily on players,
not necessarily unwinning, and it don't day out of the way.
So it's kind of the worst of all worlds right
now for the Cowboys. And I think as a play
I've talked to players who have played there. It's just
a weird feeling when the owner is in the locker
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room holding court after these games. I mean, that's never
changed that there is one players in the story of
a you know, Jason Garrett was like giving a speech
at one point and Jerry just kind of stepped right
in and railroaded him. It's just it's just weird and
it's never really changed. And you know, Bill Parcells got
control at one point. This is a long time ago now,
(26:35):
but I think it really bothered Jerry's you know, he
couldn't stand not having personnel say and personnel control and
being a decision maker. He said, the people close to him,
like he would rather make decisions even if it meant
losing games because he's the one in charge. Like he
couldn't stand the Cowboys kind of coming back and winning
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games with Bill Parcells in charge. So Mike McCarthy's dealing
with a lot of bs. And look, they could have
they could have fired him after that Packers game. I
mean it was ugly and I don't think anybody really
would have beat it. And I find a new coach
for Deck Presscott try to maximize this window. But it's
almost worse what they did now where we don't really
like your Mike, but you know we'll see this year
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when now we're what does he have to do to
keep his job? When one playoff game, two win a
super Bowl, there's just no sense of security and that
just creates a really bad work environment. I mean, got
read any business book, No Simon Sineks start with why
the infinite game? I mean any of that. This is
just bad. I mean, this is not what smart businesses do.
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This is how you go three decades without getting back
to that NFC championship game.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Man, I couldn't agree more with what you said, just
about everything that you voiced.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Dak Prescott this year.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
It seems to me like they are basically putting him
in a prove it year where it's like, we don't
really want to pay you sixty million dollars. You haven't
gotten us deep into the playoffs, so it's kind of like,
go out this season and prove to us that you
can take us deep into the playoffs and without some
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of the better players that they've lost this summer as well.
And if he does it, it seems like they pay him.
But if he doesn't, I feel like they're like, Okay,
we will go to San Francisco forty nine ers route,
We'll try to get a lot of great players at
the positions, and then we can go with a young
quarterback Ayli brock Perty.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Do you think that's how Dallas is looking at this season?
Speaker 9 (28:40):
If I was going to try to get inside of
Jerry's head Stevens head, I don't know, man, that's a
pretty dark place.
Speaker 10 (28:48):
I mean, it's stupid if that's.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
It, because we're seeing Trevor Lawrence get paid, too, is
gonna get paid, Jordan Love is gonna get paid. If
you have a competent agent and you have a case
to make that you're a top twelve quarterback at this point.
How top fifteen quarterback You're gonna get in the mid
fifties right now, and it's only going to go up.
(29:12):
I mean, Dak Prescott has the Dallas Cowboys, you know,
by you know what I mean. He is in complete
control here, he has all leverage. I mean we could
feel bad for Dak. I think Dak is probably sitting
back with his reps, his family thinking, all right, Dallas, Steven,
this is what you want to do. Great. You know
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there will be suitors for Dak Prescott and I don't know.
I mean, who is it?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I mean, is it?
Speaker 7 (29:40):
Is it Vegas?
Speaker 9 (29:41):
I mean, is Miami? Maybe kind of him and a
hand I don't know. I think they get to a done,
but there will be a d There will be somebody
willing to pay Dak Prescott if that's the route Dallas
wants to take. I think that they get a deal done.
They would be stupid not to. But who knows, I mean,
who knows what Dallas does. I mean, I heard some
(30:03):
crazy stuff inside that building. Even in the story that
we have of now, there's a source who tells the story.
It's sitting in the draft room. There was some time
between picks and Jerry just starts telling stories about his uh,
let's just say, sexual escapades, flying out in the open
in front of everybody who are sitting right there. I mean,
(30:23):
and doesn't bat and I because he's probably and you
knew it at this point. It's crazy there, guys, It's crazy.
So I don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
So I'm at the I'm gonna just leave that one
where you had it.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
But I'll ask you this, so you got a understanding
of the player side from what you were just describing.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
What about how do you like the agents and the.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Other people who kind of do the manipulation of the
business of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
How do they feel about working with Jerry?
Speaker 9 (30:50):
I think that there. I think that there are people
who who do enjoy working with Jerry Jones because he
is a really smart businessman. I mean there there is
a reason that this is the most wealthy sports franchise
in the world. I mean, they're doing something right. I mean,
they do know that all news is good news. They've
created basically their own town around that stadium, Frisco, the
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Star at Frisco.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
It's amazing what.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
They've done from a business point of view, I just
don't think the focus is winning. I mean it's I mean,
compare that situation to like Green Bay, I mean where
you don't even have an owner, where Ron Wolf to
Ted Thompson to Brian Goodikins can just kind of make
these these cold, smart football decisions. I mean they draft
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quarterbacks when they have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks and
then let that guy sit for three years. And you know,
people on the outside kind of lose their minds. Well,
they don't have an owner picking a nose in They're saying,
what the hell are we doing here? No, you're not
doing that. No, they're just gonna make smart football decision.
I mean that's the other extreme. And then you've got
some good situations where owners are smart andugh to maybe
(32:01):
take a back seat, let it play out, stay out
of the way, hire good people, empower those people. And
that's probably at the heart of everything in Dallas, Like
if you hired Mike McCarthy, just let him coach right, right,
And there is a point in the story. I couldn't
get the specific example, but I think the Jerry has
even tried to influence play calling over the years. I
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mean just crazy stuff that you don't get with normal franchises.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
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Speaker 9 (32:41):
Hey, I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 9 (32:44):
Man an honor to be here with you. And yeah,
definitely anytime you want to talk ball.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Just reach out now.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Keep up the great work, brother, thank you, thank you.
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Tyler Dunn, who wrote a great piece about just the
(33:45):
circus that goes on there. How Mike McCarthy is a
bit tired of it. Let's stick with the Cowboys, Martin
and Micah Parsons. Their best player, who you know, gets
criticized because you know, for all sorts of reasons, but
he hasn't been at his best in the playoffs, and
that's something that's criticized him. And he was holding a
(34:07):
youth football camp over the weekend, and here's a quote
he gave about the criticism that he receives. The criticism
is a privilege because sometimes a great standard is not
good enough for those who are greater. When people want things,
you have to answer the call. It is not a
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negative thing. It is the most positive thing people can
say to me, because it pushes me and challenges me
to be better. It is a great privilege for someone
to say, hey, you're great, but you can be greater.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
What are your thoughts on that? I loved it. I
loved it because that's absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
You know, if you go back to like the guy
who's not being criticized, they don't think you can do it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Right, they don't think you can get any better. So
that's why I love it.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I love the attitude and he's absolutely right. That's now
I like to be criticized consistently. No, but that's why
you end up getting better, right, because people believe that
you have more in you. Nobody criticizes people they don't
believe in.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
No.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I totally agree. And that's like even what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
We were talking about Jalen Brown and Lebron James as
far as dunk contests and stuff. There are certain players
Martin in the NBA that if they don't win a championship,
were going off on them. If Luka Doncic doesn't win
(35:35):
a championship, like now, going forward, he's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
In that Jason Tatum camp. And he's better than Tatum.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
But I mean, he's like his individual numbers winning the
MVP Award, which would be his first if he wins it,
that won't be enough.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
It's going to be what can you win? Can you win?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
And that really is a compl because there are other
really good players that nobody's saying that about.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Uh Zion.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Zion ain't getting beaten up for not winning, And I
get it, he's very young. He's still in that kind
of young phase of his career too.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
But let's say I'm trying to think off the top
of my head, Like.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
I'll give you this on Tyrese Haliburton was All NBA
player this year. He was an All Star. He was
like the crowning jewel of All Star weekend. But nobody,
nobody is slighting him saying, wow, well he can't get
past Boston in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, some of that, right, and I think it'll be
interesting to see if he gets to that level. I
think right now, Martin, he the reason he is not
criticized or people thinking he should go further is because
he's still in that honeymoon phase. Like when you're a
young player, initially it's about forget winning. Nobody unless you're
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on a really good team with an established star, nobody
expects you to win. It is can you establish that
you are a great player that you're gonna get that
max deal. I don't fault young dudes for being like, man, look,
even if they don't say it publicly, Man, my first
priority is getting that max contract, that first max contract,
(37:18):
because that'll set me up for life.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I'll start winning after that. That's kind of how it's
viewed for young guys.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
But once you get to that level, you've established your superstar,
then it's like, okay, now you need to start winning.
And so it'll be interesting to see if Haler Burton
gets to that point. But that's kind of you know,
you're right, like if they don't expect you to win,
(37:45):
And I look Dame now with Milwaukee, people are looking
at him like, look, you got Yannis, you need to win.
But before that, nobody was saying, as great as Dame is,
he gotta win a championship.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
You know, he was just great and he was getting
them to the playoffs for the most part.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
And that was enough.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
And you know, if he had just stayed in Portland,
everybody been like, man, well he is in Portland.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
What he's supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
You're absolutely right, And it'll be interesting because if they don't,
we'll see what they do this year. But if it's
another disappointing season, look, he's already top seventy five all time.
He's obviously gonna be a Hall of Famer, so his
legacy is gonna be great, but it will take a
bit of a hit if he if they don't do anything.
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They may not have to win it. I mean they
they really need, you know, with Giannis and Dame, that's
the goal.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
But if they don't, like get to.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
The finals, I think people it will Dame's legacy will
take a little bit of a hit.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
No, especially like you're saying, if this experiment fails in Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Of course it will.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
It definitely will. But but I commend him for it.
At least he gave it a shot. That's if it
doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
But you know, yeah, and he was looking at obviously
he was looking at what Miami, and he had a
few other places.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
He wasn't thinking about Milwaukee. But look, they this is
what it's about. I mean, you're right. He could have
sat in Portland.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Put up numbers and everybody would have been like, man,
they Dame just couldn't get with the right squad. Well,
now he's there and we'll see if he gets it done.
All right, Martin, great stuff. I will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Brother.
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about Mike McCarthy tiring of the foolishness in Dallas with
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
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be great.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
But Lebron today on Twitter or X. If you are
on X and follow it closely, you may have seen
that video of Lebron James and Obie Topping just having
kind of a fun I wouldn't even say it was
a dunk contest, but you know, kind of competing a
(01:34):
little bit after their workout doing some different dunks.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Rob G.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
This kind of went viral and a lot of sparked
a lot of conversation, kind of summarized for us what happened.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Right, So, the two guys were having what they were
describing as a dunk off, and Obie Topping, you overcall
was a slam dunk champion a couple of years ago.
Lebron James is currently a podcaster, so it's not surprising
that Obie Topping not anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
The podcast is dead. We'll see. We'll see about that.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
So not surprising though if you watch the five videos,
a secret.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Closet hater for his own Lakers. That's not true at all.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
But any event, if you watch the clip, Obie Topping
clearly gets the better of Lebron James. And the reason
why the Lebron is thirty nine, and that's exactly the point.
The reason why it went viral is because near like
the end of the video, which they splicely about a
minute long, and about the forty second mark, Lebron looks
at him as the guys, I'm too old for this,
and he just kind of concedes that he can't keep
(02:36):
up with the young legs anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, So I think to me, Martin, and there's always
been this debate and really criticism of Lebron for never competing.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
In the Slam Dunk Contest.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And I did definitely think he would, you know, when
he first entered the league. Remember the commercials, Remember when
he had the four Lebron's. A lot of people forget
about that, sure, and one of them he was doing
all these dunks, and so you thought he would be
in the dunk contest. I think he won the dunk
contest at the McDonald's All American Game, if I'm not mistaken,
(03:12):
but the high school game. But I didn't feel like
a lot of people felt, you know, like he was
very criticized by a lot of people for not following
in Michael Jordan's footsteps and Dominique Wilkins and guys like that.
And my thing was this, Martin, and I think I
think ultimately this is why Lebron never competed in it.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I don't think he would have been great in it.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Lebron obviously isn't as graceful of a you know, an
athlete as a Kobe Bryant, Evince Carter of Michael Jordan,
and those are the guys that their dunks look better, right,
because they're so graceful. I think Lebron because he's he
(04:00):
is big, you know, at six ' eight, and he
is obviously muscular and.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Thick and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I think for him to win the dunk Contest, now
he here's a caveat if he were if he had
been in it in a down year, he probably would
have won, sure, right because Blake Griffin, who was one
of the best game dunkers ever, he didn't win.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
He won the.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Dunk Contest, but it was kind of a down year.
I know people went crazy jumped over Akia, but you
know it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I didn't think he put on that great of a show.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I think for Lebron to win the Dunk Contest and
be great in it, he would have to do incredibly
creative athletic feats like Dwight Howard, like Dwhite.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Shocked me.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I thought Dwight put on on greatest Yeah, I thought
he put on one of the greatest shows ever in
the dunk contest, and it was because he was so creative.
If he had gone up there and done just dunks,
kind of con I hate to say conventional, but you know,
conventional slam dunk contest dunks, it wouldn't have looked as
(05:16):
good because he was so big and he was not
as graceful as smaller guys. But I mean, he's throwing
it off the side of the backboard, he was the
first to do that, and then catching and dunk. He's
jumping from out of bounds like he put on a show.
And I think that's the type of stuff Lebron would
have had to do to really do great in the
dunk contest. Sure, so I never faulted him for not
(05:38):
being in it, and I think he understood that.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
It also takes a level of coordination, and obviously Lebron
is coordinated, but it takes it's different when you're going
through the air trying to manipulate the ball at the
same time, like when I was. Now, I'm not comparing
myself to that level, but that was no Seriously, though
I could dunk all types of ways.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Oh oh really, yeah, when I was a high school
show Wow, Now, but how tall are you? About six two? Okay?
And you had nasty dunks?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
That was I could funny, funny enough, I could jump,
And I tried to model my game after freshman year,
JJ Reddick. I was trying to shoot and not dribble,
like I was trying to come off screens. As soon
as I put the ball floor more than four times,
I got in trouble.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Right, yeah, hops, I thought, yeah, you should have worked
on that hand on been attacking the rack.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I should have been doing a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
But to the point I would catch rebound tip dunks
or you know something like that. Like but if you
asked me, if you gave me a ball at half
court and said, Martin impressed me on a dunk, it
would have been it would have been a disaster. Now,
if you shot the ball from the other side, I'm
staying at the other three point line, I could come
in and look at it in the air and time
it off the rim. Then I could do all you know,
I could right hand, left, hand to hand, whatever you want.
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But so were you ever in a dunk contest?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Because I didn't have the coordination.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Like I didn't have the coordination with I could get
up there, but it doesn't do me no good to
get up there and then have the ball somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Flying across the rim, you know, out a boat.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
And also to your point about being tall in a
dunk contest, you could either do like the Dwight Howard
route or do to Aaron Gordon route where you're picking
your ads, which was.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Similar to Dwight and that he did. You know, he
had a lot of props. But Aaron Gordon, that is
arguably that him and Zach Levine was probably the best
dunk contest ever. But I with all due respect to
Jordan and Nick, I mean it just you know, especially
if you just want to break it up into the air,
it's definitely the best dunk contest in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
If you want to just you know, that is ridiculous,
but go you have to go do something like go
under your knees.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Have you picked your knees up to your chest so
that way everybody This sounds dumb.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
To say out loud, but everybody can see how.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
High you are, right because it's easy to see how high, uh,
you know, a guard is when they jump up there,
like giving a guy like Zach Levine. It's easy to see, oh,
because you see how far they are from the ground.
You gotta do something that manipulates your size as well
as do something with the ball coordinated. So, like, could
(08:01):
Lebron have been in the dunk contest and had a
good showing. I think so absolutely, especially when you're thinking
back to his first Cleveland run or Miami run where
he would do that that that Patton and tomahawk where
he hold the ball way out there.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That's not gonna that's not now. Look because it was Lebron,
it would have drawn oohs and odds. No, it's not
dun Yeah, that's not. But Lebron is talking about.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
When he was at any point where he was jumping
that high and if he had the ability to like
take that ball and come behind his back and dunk
it with the left hand or something like that. Sure,
but I just think it's a it's a unique skill
that not everybody has well.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But if you dunk a lot, like and I was,
I could dunk, but I couldn't dunk. I never could
would try to dunk in the game because I miss
most of the dunks I would do try to do
in practice.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But I could dunk here and there.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
But I used to dunk on like smaller rims, you know,
nine foot rims, stuff like that, Right, And as you
do more that you do get more used to You're right,
Like initially you don't you think you if you can
just get over the rim, you can do all sorts
of stuff. But as you do it more and more,
you get used to doing different moves and stuff up there.
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But again, I think Lebron probably does have some stuff.
But when you dunk, also like a Jordan, Michael Jordan
or Vince Carter, they're dunks. They just look great because
of their body movements and their grace.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
And it's like I've.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Said this before, they could do the same dunk as
somebody else, but it would look better when they do it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
It's like Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You could learn Michael Jackson's moves, but it's gonna look
better when he did it, you know, just because he
had the greats and the moves. And so I think
it's that way with those two guys. But Lebron is
a fantastic game dunker. But that's the thing. There's a
difference between great game dunkers and dunk un test dunkers.
(10:01):
When during the time when everybody wanted him to be
in it, when he was in his prime. Were you
one of those that was critical of him for not
being in it. You know, some people said he was scared,
or he's cheating the game, or whatever it might be.
Like I said, I understood it. I didn't think it
was a big deal, but a lot of people did.
The criticism I do have not necessarily.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
It's I think when Lebron went in that and decided
not to do it, it showed like there was something
wrong or like false, or it's a mark against your
legacy or record or whatever if you somehow came in
second or third in the dunk contest, which I think
is nonsensical and silly. So I think that I think
(10:43):
Lebron not deciding not to do it basically gave I
think it's something that all the young stars in the
NBA should do, like I wanted, like John Moran, I
want to see it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I want to see Anthony Edwards. I want to see
the guys. You could have a fantastic one.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You mentioned some of them, Jah, Anthony Edwards, Zion and
and maybe one of the old heads like Aaron Gordon
or Levine. If they still got those hops, but you
you could have a tremendous dunk contest. Heck, Derrek Jones
Juniors is nasty. He's one of the dunkers that we've seen.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
But you know, the NBA went to this part where
it was trying to like basically use the dunk contest
to help try to like make new stars.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Well that's because the stars wouldn't be in it.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
And I think when Lebron did that, when Lebron said
I'm not gonna do it, it gave everybody else that's.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
A good point. And I will give you I think
that is a great point. Lebron not doing it, You're right,
kind of gave all the other.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Star everybody else out do I have to do it?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Because before that was critic Doctor j had been in it,
Jordan Dominique, Vince, Kobe McGrady, Like, you're right, all those
guys that you know were great dunkers were in it,
and that that's something I had not really thought about before.
But when Lebron decided not to do it, it's like
(12:06):
since then is when the big names just kind of
stopped doing it. For the most part, you still get
an occasional one but yeah, I agree like it. It
shouldn't have been if I don't win it, cause I
think Lebron may have felt like, what do I have
the game?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
If I win it, I'm supposed to win it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
If I lose it, people just gonna be ripping me,
you know what I mean, Like, because I was supposed
to win. That's why Martin, like, you know, one event
that would be I think people would love this at
All Star weekend would be like a one on one contest,
like a tournament, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But no way guys would do it. And I gotta
be honest, I understand why guys wouldn't do it. If
you are a top.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Player in the league or maybe viewed as the best,
what do you have to gain by being in it
and winning nothing? Because everybody already thinks you're the best.
But if you lose, now you're taking a bit of
a hit.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You know.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It's just to me the idea that you have to
that it is a black mark on your resume. If
you get crossed up in a one on one game
during All Star Weekend, or if you lose a dunk
contest or something like that, we've.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Gone too well.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I think dunk contest is different than one on one.
If let's say they had a one on one tournament, right,
and I'm just gonna throw out the name Tyres Halliburton
cooked Kyrie. Now I don't think that would happen, but
let's just say it, right, Kyrie's viewed is the most
(13:43):
skilled guy in the league, one of the most skilled ever,
handles galore like and he got used. Don't don't tell
me that wouldn't hurt a guy's brand or legacy. That's
different than the dunk contest to me. To me, but
we got it so that you, guys, what do they
have to gain. It's the overall health of the league.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
It's the overall health, like the idea like, because in
the last twenty years, NBA All Star Weekend has not
mattered near like twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
It mattered in a way, it does not matter now.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
The reason why is because guys, for whatever reason, whether
it's the brand, whether it's their fear, whatever, they don't
want to play. They don't want to participate in these
different games. And that's why now you can I mean
I used to watch, we used to record the Dunk
Contest and three all that All Star weekends stuff and
continually watch. I burned out the VHS tape when I
was a kid watching it now now I'm watching.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It with my phone out.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
If I'm watching it at all, I'll just catch the
highlights on Twitter. I will be watching. That's something I
would care about. They want to tellivivise the draft for
two days? How about your face? That's just the All
Star weekend for two days. Yeah, there are a lot
of reasons.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
We've talked about it before why All Star weekends just
not close to what it used to be.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But that is one. I mean. But like I said,
I would love.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
For the dunk has to be resurrected, but one on
one it would be awesome.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
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Speaker 3 (16:38):
Lebron Dunk contest your thoughts. Let's go to Raphael in Cincinnati.
Here on The Odd Couple. Ralph what you got.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
What's going on, brothers. Yeah, I'm not in no hurry
to see Lebron in a dunk contest, even when his
first three years in the league that's when he should
have got in. I think the reasons why he didn't
get in it is Lebron he's an in game dunker,
he just doesn't have the flare around the rim because
of the body mask. As well, Lebron is not one
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that levitates like some of the great dunkers in the past.
He has decent sized hands and everything, but Lebron's body
mask keeps him from levitating, hanging in the air to
do some of the side to side and you know,
underlegs and everything like that. And I think the other
reason why he never got in is because Lebron and
when he came into the league, he was all about
building this brand and to just be kind of like outdone,
(17:33):
outshine in a dunk contest with his dunks that were
primarily going to be boring, his sledgehammers and things like that.
But I just think that Lebron wasn't him and Rich
Paul and then were like, look, you don't want to
get shown up in the dunk contest. You're Brian, we're
building it right now. So I think those are the
reasons why Lebron never got in.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I tend to agree with that.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Yeah, uh, I think another reason real quick. I know
y'all got other callers, but overall, the dunk contest, I
think think it does need to go. I think guys
they just don't have the athleticism overall for the dunks
coupled with all the dunk wait.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
The guys, the guys today.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Yeah, yeah, they don't have the athletics. Yeah, with the
big calls and the ones that's gonna levitate, see like
Levine Jordan.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, but all you do, get smaller, get the players
that like some of the players can do that stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I think, Martin quickly because we want to get to
the callers.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
To me, the reason why so many dunks are missed
today is guys are trying stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
That is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I mean, and I'll give them credit for that, Like,
I mean, let's just keep it real.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And I love the.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Jordanique dunk contests and all that stuff. They weren't doing
close to the stuff that these guys are.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Doing it now. They didn't miss Vince, but great, they
didn't miss. They made it on the first try.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
But now guys are trying stuff that is so incredibly
creative and difficult that they they might make two out
of four of them, you know, as they're practicing them,
and because they're just so so unique.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
So I think that's one of the challenges. Let's go
to Mike and Augusta. You're on the couple on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Hey, guys, thanks taking my call.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Ye.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Yeah, I don't hold anything against Lebron for not, you know,
being in a dark contest, because he's so he's so big.
It wouldn't have been graceful. It have been kind of
like Magic Johnson Duncan.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
But what I wish I wouldn't go that.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
I wish they would bring back the All Star Game.
You know, I still YouTube the game from one when
the East came back by twenty and and the Kenbay
was guarding Kobe to stop the game when he shot.
I still love the dunk contest. The g leaguer that
that won two years in a row, the er staying
(19:59):
to me, no, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I still like it even with the no names, as
long as they can do some great dunks. But it
would be better with the superstars, even if they didn't
dunk quite as well as the quote unquote no names.
It would be just more drama, right if you had
Jah going against Anthony Edwards, even if they weren't better
(20:23):
dunkers than say, you know, a Derrick Jones Junior or something.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I feel like, I don't want to see you in
any of these contests unless you're also in the All
Star Game. Really well, yeah, that'd be mine. I'd rather
see all stars out there doing it. It's never been
the case, but I just well, we're at a place
now where we got Mac McClung, who's played like four
consecutors with that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But hey, hey, you ain't with me when I say
thank God for Mac mcclun because if he wasn't in
the dunk contest, the last two would have been horrific.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I mean, it's you know what though, shout out to
Jalen Brown got two MVPs Eastern Conference MVP Finals, MVP
and I went into the dunk context.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, nah, I.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Are you absolutely right? I respect that. Now, he wasn't great,
but I respect you know, his hustle.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
He wasn't great.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Nobody makes fun of it for it because you know why,
he'll just do like this and hold up his third
finger and say catch the ring.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah. But he also isn't on that level either. Let's
just keep it real like he you.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Know what I'm saying, Like he's not on the level
where people were gonna rip h. Lebron was on a
different level and I'm not, you know, I'm just saying
he wasn't on.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
The level like Lebron where he gotta win everything.
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We welcome in Tyler Dunn. Tyler, Welcome to the IY Couple.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Chris Man, it is good to be back. Great to
hear you, and I feel like you've been in my
life a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Today.
Speaker 9 (22:07):
Just listen to your pod with Ethan Strauss, which was
thank you so.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Much for having me, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yes, go check that out Ethan Strauss. I was on
his podcast today. It was a great interview, a lot
of fun with him and you. I mean, man, what
an article you released on your substack about the Cowboys
and Mike McCarthy kind of tiring of the Jerry Jones
show kind of tell us like, how did is this
(22:33):
something that you thought might be the case and started
asking around about it or is it just something in
your you know, discussions with people around the league came
out like how did you come about this story?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And then kind of give us the details of what's
really going on.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
There no doubt.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Yeah. So three years ago, I want to say twenty
twenty one, I did a three part series on Jerry's
world and what it's really like inside that building, which
I think we all have an idea that it's bizarre
and outlandish and let's just say immoral off the field.
(23:13):
So a lot of that detail kind of blew my mind.
And I just just this offseason as it kind of
dragged along and we're seeing these other quarterbacks get paid
and other star players get contract extensions, and the Dallas
Cowboys are just sitting on their hands. I mean, this
is the richest sports franchise in the freaking world any sport,
(23:35):
and they're not paying their own It kind of blew
my mind, and I reached back out to some of
the sources that I talked to for that series, and
it blew their minds. You know, a couple in particular,
they're not there anymore, but they were there for a
long time. They sat at that draft table right next
to Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones. They've they've been involved
(23:56):
in some high profile decisions with the franchise, and look,
they really like Jerry too. In a lot of ways.
I think people who have been through there, they have
a lot of good things to say about the ownership,
but they just shake their head and they roll their
eyes and they say nothing has changed. You know, three
decades into this thing, and we can take this a
lot of different directions, but I guess in the now,
(24:18):
I think the push and poll is Jerry Jones would
like to spend and Stephen Jones does not. He doesn't
want to get caught up into dead money, dead cash,
and they're terrified about paying people not to work, and
that is just a cost of doing business in today's NFL.
If you're interested in winning, you've got to make those
kind of moves. And they could have paid Dak Prescott
(24:40):
what fifty a shade over fifty MILLI year earlier this
offseason told dek look, let's get your number down this
year and we'll get you a weapon, We'll get you
a line, and we'll get you some house.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Right.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
They haven't done any of that, and now they're just
screwing themselves.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Tyler Martin Wise here A big fan of yourself, Stack
and I appreciate what you do, like with the three
part series, specially last.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Year with the bills and all that.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
That's the type of stuff I grew up reading and
the types of the maybe want to be in this business.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
So I appreciate the fact that you're keeping it alive.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
But to the point of what's happening right now in Dallas,
is it simply Mike McCarthy's roster is hamstrung by those decisions,
and that's why what you were reporting saying he might
be a little getting a little tired of having to
deal with the back and forth between father and son.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
There McCarthy, I appreciate to reading everybody out there for subscribing.
I think that, yeah, that's that's definitely the frustration, and there's.
Speaker 10 (25:36):
Just always that that feeling that at any moment Jerry
or Steven are going to do with Jerry or Stephen want.
I mean, it's and you see this in all sports obviously,
but the best owners are willing to spend.
Speaker 9 (25:50):
And they stay the hell out of the way. Uh,
the Dallas Cowboys will spend, but not necessarily on players,
not necessarily unwinning, and it don't day out of the way.
So it's kind of the worst of all worlds right
now for the Cowboys. And I think as a play
I've talked to players who have played there. It's just
a weird feeling when the owner is in the locker
(26:12):
room holding court after these games. I mean, that's never
changed that there is one players in the story of
a you know, Jason Garrett was like giving a speech
at one point and Jerry just kind of stepped right
in and railroaded him. It's just it's just weird and
it's never really changed. And you know, Bill Parcells got
control at one point. This is a long time ago now,
(26:35):
but I think it really bothered Jerry's you know, he
couldn't stand not having personnel say and personnel control and
being a decision maker. He said, the people close to him,
like he would rather make decisions even if it meant
losing games because he's the one in charge. Like he
couldn't stand the Cowboys kind of coming back and winning
(26:55):
games with Bill Parcells in charge. So Mike McCarthy's dealing
with a lot of bs. And look, they could have
they could have fired him after that Packers game. I
mean it was ugly and I don't think anybody really
would have beat it. And I find a new coach
for Deck Presscott try to maximize this window. But it's
almost worse what they did now where we don't really
like your Mike, but you know we'll see this year
(27:18):
when now we're what does he have to do to
keep his job? When one playoff game, two win a
super Bowl, there's just no sense of security and that
just creates a really bad work environment. I mean, got
read any business book, No Simon Sineks start with why
the infinite game? I mean any of that. This is
just bad. I mean, this is not what smart businesses do.
(27:40):
This is how you go three decades without getting back
to that NFC championship game.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Man, I couldn't agree more with what you said, just
about everything that you voiced.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Dak Prescott this year.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
It seems to me like they are basically putting him
in a prove it year where it's like, we don't
really want to pay you sixty million dollars. You haven't
gotten us deep into the playoffs, so it's kind of like,
go out this season and prove to us that you
can take us deep into the playoffs and without some
(28:14):
of the better players that they've lost this summer as well.
And if he does it, it seems like they pay him.
But if he doesn't, I feel like they're like, Okay,
we will go to San Francisco forty nine ers route,
We'll try to get a lot of great players at
the positions, and then we can go with a young
quarterback Ayli brock Perty.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Do you think that's how Dallas is looking at this season?
Speaker 9 (28:40):
If I was going to try to get inside of
Jerry's head Stevens head, I don't know, man, that's a
pretty dark place.
Speaker 10 (28:48):
I mean, it's stupid if that's.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
It, because we're seeing Trevor Lawrence get paid, too, is
gonna get paid, Jordan Love is gonna get paid. If
you have a competent agent and you have a case
to make that you're a top twelve quarterback at this point.
How top fifteen quarterback You're gonna get in the mid
fifties right now, and it's only going to go up.
(29:12):
I mean, Dak Prescott has the Dallas Cowboys, you know,
by you know what I mean. He is in complete
control here, he has all leverage. I mean we could
feel bad for Dak. I think Dak is probably sitting
back with his reps, his family thinking, all right, Dallas, Steven,
this is what you want to do. Great. You know
(29:35):
there will be suitors for Dak Prescott and I don't know.
I mean, who is it?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I mean, is it?
Speaker 7 (29:40):
Is it Vegas?
Speaker 9 (29:41):
I mean, is Miami? Maybe kind of him and a
hand I don't know. I think they get to a done,
but there will be a d There will be somebody
willing to pay Dak Prescott if that's the route Dallas
wants to take. I think that they get a deal done.
They would be stupid not to. But who knows, I mean,
who knows what Dallas does. I mean, I heard some
(30:03):
crazy stuff inside that building. Even in the story that
we have of now, there's a source who tells the story.
It's sitting in the draft room. There was some time
between picks and Jerry just starts telling stories about his uh,
let's just say, sexual escapades, flying out in the open
in front of everybody who are sitting right there. I mean,
(30:23):
and doesn't bat and I because he's probably and you
knew it at this point. It's crazy there, guys, It's crazy.
So I don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
So I'm at the I'm gonna just leave that one
where you had it.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
But I'll ask you this, so you got a understanding
of the player side from what you were just describing.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
What about how do you like the agents and the.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Other people who kind of do the manipulation of the
business of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
How do they feel about working with Jerry?
Speaker 9 (30:50):
I think that there. I think that there are people
who who do enjoy working with Jerry Jones because he
is a really smart businessman. I mean there there is
a reason that this is the most wealthy sports franchise
in the world. I mean, they're doing something right. I mean,
they do know that all news is good news. They've
created basically their own town around that stadium, Frisco, the
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Star at Frisco.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
It's amazing what.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
They've done from a business point of view, I just
don't think the focus is winning. I mean it's I mean,
compare that situation to like Green Bay, I mean where
you don't even have an owner, where Ron Wolf to
Ted Thompson to Brian Goodikins can just kind of make
these these cold, smart football decisions. I mean they draft
(31:38):
quarterbacks when they have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks and
then let that guy sit for three years. And you know,
people on the outside kind of lose their minds. Well,
they don't have an owner picking a nose in They're saying,
what the hell are we doing here? No, you're not
doing that. No, they're just gonna make smart football decision.
I mean that's the other extreme. And then you've got
some good situations where owners are smart andugh to maybe
(32:01):
take a back seat, let it play out, stay out
of the way, hire good people, empower those people. And
that's probably at the heart of everything in Dallas, Like
if you hired Mike McCarthy, just let him coach right, right,
And there is a point in the story. I couldn't
get the specific example, but I think the Jerry has
even tried to influence play calling over the years. I
(32:22):
mean just crazy stuff that you don't get with normal franchises.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
All right, that is Tyler done, great stuff, man, Go
check him out golong tv dot com and get his substack.
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I'm abscriber. I endorse it. That's a free commercial for
you there, tyme.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
Hey, I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 9 (32:44):
Man an honor to be here with you. And yeah,
definitely anytime you want to talk ball.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Just reach out now.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Keep up the great work, brother, thank you, thank you.
All right, more a couple coming your way. Fox Sports Radio.
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been talking some Cowboys, and we just got done with
Tyler Dunn, who wrote a great piece about just the
(33:45):
circus that goes on there. How Mike McCarthy is a
bit tired of it. Let's stick with the Cowboys, Martin
and Micah Parsons. Their best player, who you know, gets
criticized because you know, for all sorts of reasons, but
he hasn't been at his best in the playoffs, and
that's something that's criticized him. And he was holding a
(34:07):
youth football camp over the weekend, and here's a quote
he gave about the criticism that he receives. The criticism
is a privilege because sometimes a great standard is not
good enough for those who are greater. When people want things,
you have to answer the call. It is not a
(34:29):
negative thing. It is the most positive thing people can
say to me, because it pushes me and challenges me
to be better. It is a great privilege for someone
to say, hey, you're great, but you can be greater.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
What are your thoughts on that? I loved it. I
loved it because that's absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
You know, if you go back to like the guy
who's not being criticized, they don't think you can do it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Right, they don't think you can get any better. So
that's why I love it.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I love the attitude and he's absolutely right. That's now
I like to be criticized consistently. No, but that's why
you end up getting better, right, because people believe that
you have more in you. Nobody criticizes people they don't
believe in.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
No.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I totally agree. And that's like even what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
We were talking about Jalen Brown and Lebron James as
far as dunk contests and stuff. There are certain players
Martin in the NBA that if they don't win a championship,
were going off on them. If Luka Doncic doesn't win
(35:35):
a championship, like now, going forward, he's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
In that Jason Tatum camp. And he's better than Tatum.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
But I mean, he's like his individual numbers winning the
MVP Award, which would be his first if he wins it,
that won't be enough.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
It's going to be what can you win? Can you win?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
And that really is a compl because there are other
really good players that nobody's saying that about.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Uh Zion.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Zion ain't getting beaten up for not winning, And I
get it, he's very young. He's still in that kind
of young phase of his career too.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
But let's say I'm trying to think off the top
of my head, Like.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
I'll give you this on Tyrese Haliburton was All NBA
player this year. He was an All Star. He was
like the crowning jewel of All Star weekend. But nobody,
nobody is slighting him saying, wow, well he can't get
past Boston in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, some of that, right, and I think it'll be
interesting to see if he gets to that level. I
think right now, Martin, he the reason he is not
criticized or people thinking he should go further is because
he's still in that honeymoon phase. Like when you're a
young player, initially it's about forget winning. Nobody unless you're
(36:57):
on a really good team with an established star, nobody
expects you to win. It is can you establish that
you are a great player that you're gonna get that
max deal. I don't fault young dudes for being like, man, look,
even if they don't say it publicly, Man, my first
priority is getting that max contract, that first max contract,
(37:18):
because that'll set me up for life.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I'll start winning after that. That's kind of how it's
viewed for young guys.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
But once you get to that level, you've established your superstar,
then it's like, okay, now you need to start winning.
And so it'll be interesting to see if Haler Burton
gets to that point. But that's kind of you know,
you're right, like if they don't expect you to win,
(37:45):
And I look Dame now with Milwaukee, people are looking
at him like, look, you got Yannis, you need to win.
But before that, nobody was saying, as great as Dame is,
he gotta win a championship.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
You know, he was just great and he was getting
them to the playoffs for the most part.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
And that was enough.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
And you know, if he had just stayed in Portland,
everybody been like, man, well he is in Portland.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
What he's supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
You're absolutely right, And it'll be interesting because if they don't,
we'll see what they do this year. But if it's
another disappointing season, look, he's already top seventy five all time.
He's obviously gonna be a Hall of Famer, so his
legacy is gonna be great, but it will take a
bit of a hit if he if they don't do anything.
(38:33):
They may not have to win it. I mean they
they really need, you know, with Giannis and Dame, that's
the goal.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
But if they don't, like get to.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
The finals, I think people it will Dame's legacy will
take a little bit of a hit.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
No, especially like you're saying, if this experiment fails in Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Of course it will.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
It definitely will. But but I commend him for it.
At least he gave it a shot. That's if it
doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
But you know, yeah, and he was looking at obviously
he was looking at what Miami, and he had a
few other places.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
He wasn't thinking about Milwaukee. But look, they this is
what it's about. I mean, you're right. He could have
sat in Portland.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Put up numbers and everybody would have been like, man,
they Dame just couldn't get with the right squad. Well,
now he's there and we'll see if he gets it done.
All right, Martin, great stuff. I will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Brother.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Let's keep it like like for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon,
they bring fire, trust,
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