June 25, 2024 • 38 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Chris discuss Magic Johnson’s assertion that Caitlin Clark vs Angel Reese can have a similar impact to the one Magic Johnson vs Larry Bird had in the 1980s and tell us why they have no problem with the Los Angeles Lakers offering LeBron James a three-year contract that would keep him in LA through his age-42 season. Plus, Super Producer Rob G asks the tough questions in this week’s edition of Trollin’ or Rollin’.
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
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Speaker 4 (00:56):
Phone at you?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You seem to use your phone. I don't get it, man,
I'm glad. I just I just brought this up.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
I mean I didn't even mean to go here. Yo.
What what is up though? With your phone? Broh, you
have to work.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We've had hundreds, if not thousands of people on this
show and not one of them has a phone as
bad as you I'm not.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Even trying to be funny.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
I will con I know was the last time I
saw it? The second and last time I saw you
at the super Bowl. The first thing you said when
you started reaching in my pocket, said let me see it?
Where is it? I'm like, what the what the hell
is this guy?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Know it everything?
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For the real talk. I mean, you know your phone.
You got a problem with your phone. I don't know
what it is.
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Hotline, I asked Rob G one question, how do I sound?
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Every Tuesday? Rob G says, you sound perfect? And then
I got on the air and all of a sudden,
this is what now G hop on the mic. Yes,
am I am?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I exaggerating no, but I will say, for whatever reason
it's saying, is Martin's problem or his fault? I just
go for whatever reason. When we talk off the air,
it sounds super clear. I don't know what happens between
us punching it up and getting it on the air,
but it definitely sounds different when he's actually on the air.
(02:22):
That sounds like an Alex issue to me. I mean,
that's that's on DJ Alex Tyson.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Some technical producer somewhere.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
But Rob jan I will have sit and have conversations
afterwards and it's nothing real problem.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, well whatever, all right, But anyway, let's get to
this and uh man, the w NBA and Martin.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
You know, I've been saying it.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
The storylines are good for the league. Sure, we'll get
to the basketball. If the stories bring us there, then
we'll get to the basketball eventually. But just enjoy the
stories and eyeballs to your sport. And none other than
the legendary Magic Johnson has weighed in on this.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
And let me first start here by giving one.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I don't even know who the caller was, but one
of our callers called in near the end, it might
have even been after the collegiate basketball season, and he said,
I don't know if he asked me or he just
made a statement, but basically he was saying, Angel Reese
and Caitlin Clark could be to the NBA or WNBA
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what Magic and Bird were to the NBA. And I
shot it down, not vehemently, but you know, I thought
that that's a little bit of a stretch because Bird
and Magic they were like, I mean, they were right.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
They were on the same level. You know.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Bird had led somewhat like Caitlin Clark, but different in
that Indiana state, even on the level of IOWA in
women's basketball, Like you know they were. That was like
leading a mid major to the an undefeated record in
the championship game. And Larry Bird was just phenomenal, took
the nation by storm, and Magic was the same way.
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Did it differently, obviously, but he was. They were the
two best players in the country period.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And I didn't think. I knew Adel Reach was good,
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I mean I knew she was really good player and
a future All Star, most likely in the WNBA, but
I didn't think she was on the same level as Clark.
And so far now I do think, and we talked
about it yesterday. Clark has been the rookie of the year,
but Reese is giving her a surprise and run for
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her money. And Andrew Reese is second in the league
and rebounding. She's averaging thirteen points a game, which is
very good for a rookie. Like she's balling and more important,
so she's played eat well enough and she's clearly the
second best rookie, and some would try to argue that
she should get the award, but she's.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Played well enough where the tension.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
The rivalry between the two is real, not just it
was real in college, clearly, but it's real.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
In the w NBA.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And it's not just because of the feistiness and the
pushing and shoving and you know, Reese clapping when her
teammate Kennedy Carter, you know, pushed or bumped into while
you want the character, yeah, hipcheck, that's a good way
to put it. Caitlyn Clark, it's real because they're both
very good players. And Magic Johnson has weighed in and
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he tweeted this Martin Larry and I heightened the NBA's
overall popularity. The Lakers and Celtics sold out arenas throughout
the league and increased television viewership exponentially. The higher viewership
numbers led to the NBA signing significantly larger TV contracts,
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which then led to higher salaries for all the players.
Caitlin and Angel are now doing the same thing, selling
out arenas and increasing the viewership. They have taken women's
basketball by storm, and with expiring TV deals on the horizon.
The WNBA is now in a position to negotiate higher
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TV contracts and increase salaries for all of the talented players.
So he compared it to the way he and Bird
resurrected the NBA and Martin Robg's gonna give us some
numbers to kind of back that up, and then the floor's.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Yours, yeah, guys.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
So on June sixteenth, when the Fever faced the sky,
they had an average television audience of two point twenty
five million viewers. At the time, it was the largest
figure for ANYBA regular season game in twenty three you
talked about on the show. One week later, they broke
that record again two point three zero million viewers this
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past weekend on ESPN. Now, I don't know how much
of that is both of them, how much are just
kating Clark because again full disclosure, Clark and the Fever,
just them minus Angel Reese have already had the most
viewed WNBA games ever for CBS, ESPN, ESPN two, ESPN
plus ABC and NBA TV.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
So I think that this rivalry is not Magic and
Bird yet, because what made Magic and Bird special. Now,
you obviously had the college lead up but what made
us care going after that was that they were both
superbly successful in the NBA, both individually and team success. Yes,
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that's what's going through have to occur for this to
remain having the same level of Bird magic kind of
juice where we're setting viewership records and so on and
so forth. It's gonna have to be, Oh, Angel Rees
vers Kaitlyn Clark in the championship game or in the postseason,
depending on how it shakes out. When we see that
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chapter one, chapter two, chapter three, very much like we
saw it when they were both in undergrad. We saw
chapter one, Angel Reese got the ring you know, famously
did the ring meat thing, all of that. The Kaitlin
Clark was started the firestorm.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Right then we.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Saw chapter two Kaitlyn Clark got the best of her
and that one goes on loses to South Carolina International
Championship game. What we're seeing now and the thing though, Chris,
if they're able to have that team's success, I think
that it could be right at that level of Magic
and Bird in terms of the injection of popularity and
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the injection of the TV money and all of that
that Magic was alluding to in his tweet if no
other reason, because we are going to get a ton
of these matchups because the league is so relatively small
compared to other ones.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Right, we're gonna say team.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
It's not gonna be three months in between the next iteration,
So it'll be something that is consistently the conversation. And
I think what's odd, Like I was actually very interested
to hear because I was here doing updates on the
during the game on Sunday. Right, the conversation on Monday
was about the game.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
It wasn't.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
It was about the game and the way that the
game ended, and the way that Angel Rees had an
incredible fourth quarter to go ahead and get that win.
It was about how Caitlyn Clark only had one field
goal in tel in the last seven minutes.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Who's like, who's to blame?
Speaker 6 (09:50):
It was very much the same way that the conversations
are around the NBA. Right, It wasn't about the off
the court stuff. So I think we are almost we
are all almost already there to where we're just talking
about the game because of the storylines that have been
built up.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
That's the thing.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
We're going to see more and more of these because
this league is so relatively small compared to the NBA
was at the time of Magic and Bird in terms
of teams.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Now, you're you're absolutely right in that if that's what
they're gonna have to do to equal Magic and Bird,
you know, on on a relative scale, it's never obviously
gonna be the NBA, but relatively speaking, if they both
start winning, if they both start winning, they will definitely,
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you know that that's the next step for.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Them to get to.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And it's a lot like it in other ways, Like
Caitlin Clark, Let's say she wins Rookie of the Year.
I think she's on pace to do that. Bird won
Rookie of the Year, but Magic won the championship.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeap, you know, and I.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Look the Chicago Sky are. They're both at the same
level their teams. They're fighting for that eighth and final
playoff spot and maybe though rise. They've got time for
both of them to rise in the standings, but that
neither of them are on like the best teams or
even close to the best teams in the league.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
So they won't do that this year, it doesn't look like.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
But you're right if they were to somehow both like
start winning the way Magic and bird did it really
would take off.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
And it's great.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I'm happy for the WNBA. I'm happy for the players
in the league. I'm happy for all the you know,
the girls basketball players that aren't even in the WNBA
because obviously they've had the league to shoot for as
far as getting there. But now it's a league that,
at least for now, is getting more publicity. Let me
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ask you this, Martin, do you see it ever like
kind of going back, maybe not quite to where it was,
but kind of fading from the national consciousness, which it
is squarely in the national consciousness right now.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
It I think it really has to do with the
strength of the college game because what we had, like
when we saw like this, the w NBA boost that
we're seeing now is direct result of the rivalry of
angel Resa, Kaylin Clark and college. Right That's what is
Like you said, there's storylines, right, like, that's what kind
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of is what we're where. That's growing and it was
on the way up, but this skyrocketed it. So let's say,
for example, we get you know, you know, Juju Watkins
and I'm not sure who the other you know, hot
sophomore guard or forward or whoever. In the in women's
college basketball, they got some great players right now.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
I mean Page Becker's like you said.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Juju Page only be there for one more year. That's right.
But I'm saying, do.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
You think see I don't where I disagree, I don't.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I think it's dependent on Caitlin and the current players
in the WNBA. I mean, Asia Wilson's fantastic, and they
got some other great players too. But like, if let's
just look, the rivalry is good. But as Rob g
he read the numbers, Martin for the most part is Caitlyn.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
It's not a fifty to fifty thing as far as
boosting the league. We've heard the numbers.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Now, the rivalry is is you can call that fifty
to fifty. Angel is more popular than most other players
in the WNBA. If not, I don't know, if I
say if not all of them. But but Caitlyn Clark
is the one driving these numbers, and so I look,
I think Martin is as long as she plays well,
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and if she does become like the dominant figure or
at least one of the top two or three along
with Angel Wilson, because she ain't going nowhere, then I
think I think that will boost the WNBA by itself,
irregardless of what the college players do beneath them.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Well, I think if we see you know, college players
like you know we have, we get that buy in
and then they go to different teams. All of a sudden,
we're paying attention to more teams in the WNBA. And
again there's only a halfu of twelve teams in the
whole league. So you get a star on every team,
then boom, we're playing attention.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
To everybody, which is why what the what's boosts the
DNBA exactly is that they marketed individual stars. All right,
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Speaker 6 (16:09):
Let's go to Andre in Massachusetts. Andre in Massachusetts. You're
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Speaker 9 (16:18):
Yeah, you're doing thanks to taking Mike call. Clark and
Reeves has the potential to match a Larry and Michael.
I'm not talking about these two players meeting in the
National Championship Game Michigan State versus Indiana State as they did.
I can't go to that level, but Angel Reeves definitely
showed something in that in that Marquee game. She's a
baller in her own right and kind of ascending for
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the Chicago skuy Caitlin Clark is also going toe for
toe to toe with all the top guards in the
WNBA and specifically the WNBA. Unlike some of these other
major professional sports, they're marketing their stars. They're showing them
in multiple dimensions, different type of ways. They're different interests,
so you're seeing different sides of them, and their personalities
are distinctive, So you know, you do have this theoretical class.
(17:03):
I don't know, you know, they might not necessarily see
eye to eye, but Magic and Larry didn't see eye
to eye on the court. There's nothing wrong with that.
But I don't know if there's there's an animis between
them and that there doesn't need to be. But the
w NBA, again at the leadership that we're seeing, based
on what David Stern established, you're creating these narratives. They
have the talent on and off the court, and I
(17:23):
think it has legs this season and in kind of
going forward to distinctive personality, distinctive games, and distinctive stars
to attach yourself to, to stay connected to the game. Thanks
taking the call.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Yep, all right, man, Let's try another Andre out Andre
and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
You're up this time.
Speaker 10 (17:45):
We'll Chris listen. Look, I'm forty one years old, right.
I've been watching girls women's basketball forever since I was
a kid. I remember Marrying Jones and Charlotte Smith and
North Carolina last year that this is going to be
Magic and Bird when they were playing in college. And
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what Chris said was Angel is not as good as.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
That you that did I referenced earlier.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
I'm not sure, but but but I know that h
Angel is not as good as a player as Magic was.
But because of social media, her celebrity is just as impactful.
And with them too, they got the whole element with
Magic and Bird, you know, to race the culture that
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just two ballers and it buils down to that and
they are Caitlin is leading the the celebrity, the attention.
But but but Angel, she needed Angel as that that
that that that uhol she needed, she needed angel that boosted.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
It's certainly possible. I did give it a boost.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Uh, yeah, it's It's definitely gave it a boost.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah, Jim Man Atlanta, you're on the couple. What you
got my friend?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
What's up? How you doing?
Speaker 11 (19:17):
I'm doing good man?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (19:18):
Martin? You know, Divine hear you?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
There you go, Martin's in alpha right.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah. But I still love you, man.
Speaker 11 (19:27):
Yeah, we still love you. Look, it might not gonna
be the only one that's just gonna tell the truth
about this. It's never gonna be magic and burdening his
wife because it never had anything to do with the court.
Nobody paid attention to injuries or Cait mcclark really until
after that game, whichever she's gaged when she chased after
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Kate mcclark. You know, they felt like, I'm just gonna
say it. They felt like the white girl was offended,
and uh, nobody you know, next when it all really started,
nobody really cared. And so I think this is just
the reason why people cheer Jerry Cooney over Larry Holmes. Uh,
people to chose the university team over U n l B.
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It's just you know, it's just what this this is
what it is.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
And so I think, but let me.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Ask you this.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Let me ask you because Cooney Holmes, I mean, Cooney
was never better than Holmes, but Caitlyn was better. It
is better than angel Rees. Wouldn't you agree with that saying.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
I agree with that? But that's my point. Is not
about basketball because the people that are coming to and
talking about, you know, this is not even they don't
even care about the basketball.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
That's what the league as a whole has a challenge
because if people want to talk basketball, they're gonna talk
NBA basketball.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
This is the storyline.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
And the hope is that, you know, like Martin said,
if they both start winning, maybe it'll get about the
basketball at least to some.
Speaker 11 (20:57):
Degree, because other than that, it won't last very long.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
But also, like it was about the basketball, it was
a basketball, but you can't tell me there was a
little white versus black with It was definitely there, but
it was primary.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I mean, I don't even say primarily it was.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I get this point that it was about basketball, but yeah,
the white black thing, especially back in the eighties, Oh
it was yeah, that was huge and it was man,
it wasn't until recently.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I actually met some brothers that pulled for Bird and
the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I thought it was all completely nah dudes, not from ball.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
It was shocked because I thought it was.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
All black and white.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
The blacks like the Lakers, the whites like the Celtics.
That's what it was primarily in my experiences, other than
maybe people from those cities, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
But I mean, it's honestly, it's one of the oldest
tales in sports.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
And I didn't realize it until I was at the
Connor McGregor Floy Mayweather uh world press tour, if you
remember the press leading up to that fight. I was
looking around and it looked I was like, look at this,
all the black people over here rooting for Floyd.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I was in was that Staples Center, and I.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Was like, I've never seen anything like this, so so.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Just outwardly, and that was the first time you'd seen
something like that, Well, yeah, I think christ i'h only
thirty four, so it wasn't like I but that was
the first time I experienced it, so, you know, just aggressively,
and then I was like, wow, this is really something.
And then you started to kind of it kind of
triggered something in my brain went back and forth. I
was like, wow, that's true, Martin. You could go back
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and point at them all, all the different examples.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I'm gonna keep it real. And you know, obviously I'm
older than you. When I was growing up, it was
I pulled for the brothers period. Sure, I pulled for
the black coaches. I pulled for the black quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
There.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I grew up a Rabbit Steelers fan. It was because
my even though I lived in Cincinnati and was a
Steelers fan, because my dad was a Steelers fan. And
the reason he was a Steelers fan was because Joe
Gillen was a black quarterback they had who initially kind
of beat out Terry Bradshaw and then you know, Bradshaw
took over. But it was because and that was really
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most of my you know, all my life at home
and until like it got to a point for me
because I would pull for I lived in Indiana when
Magic and Bird played their famous college basketball championship game,
I was pulling for Magic and the Michigan State Spartans
because he was black.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
And it was because, I mean that was in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
It was like, man, we were getting you know, we
didn't have as much in society. We didn't have as
many you know, certainly not as many politicians and black
faces on television and things like that, and we hadn't
even dominated sports yet to the degree that we have now.
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And so it was like it was kind of the
early stages of that. And so it was like man,
I took, and I think blacks in general took.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
We took a ton of pride in that. And Bird
was like a threat to that.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I mean really, and I didn't really like Bird as
a player because that was like he's a threat. I
didn't really think of it that way, but that's really
what it was. And now though, and I'm just gonna
keep it real, blacks have dominated sports so much.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
There's so many black quarterbacks now, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
That it's it's I don't just pull for somebody because
they're black now, because I mean, we I'm looking to
establish our greatness in so many other realms of society now.
I mean sports is sports, like we we dominate. We've
dominated sports now, you know, particularly basketball and football. So
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it's not what it used to be for me when
it was not as many blacks, you know, playing and
dominating and things like that, and there was still a
lot of blatant racism. There is still something in the
front offices, the coaching hires, and obviously ownership.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
We need more black owners. But it was on the
field back then, no black quarterbacks, no black safeties, no
black centers, line back you know, like none.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
But you know, it was still there were still those stereotypes.
And that's all gone on the field and on the court.
And so now I just the race doesn't determine dominate
my who I root for sure, just because you know
what I mean, Like, We've established dominance in sports, and
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I'm looking to established dominance in other fat facets of
society or at least greatness and where we prosper.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
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unique segment. No one's ever done it before, so let's
get right to it. According to friend of the Show
This Guy, NBA insider Mark Stein, the New Orleans Pelicans
are likely to trade all Stars Brandon Ingram at some
point this week ahead of the start of the new
twenty twenty four twenty twenty five NBA League year. Martin
(27:09):
Wise trolling and rolling brandon Ingram will be the biggest
name traded or to change teams this off season.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I'm rolling with.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
That and Mark because of all these new stipulations, like
Jewell em Bean said, the reason why the Celtics won't
repeat the second Apron second and first April's gonna be rough.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I'm gonna trolling, oh Man.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Could be wrong, but it looks like Paul George will
be on the move. And I still think he's a
bigger name than Brandon Ingram. Maybe he'll end up with
the Clippers again, but I think he he could be
moving and he's.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Bigger, all right.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Story number two trolling rolling here on the O couple
Fox Sports Radio. You guys talked about an hour or two.
JJ Reddick may or may not be lie about his
interaction with a young woman twenty years ago. What we
do know that he may or not be lying about, though,
involves the Lakers and whether or not he spoke to
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Lebron James about his head coaching gig, because at his
press conference he maintained that him and Lebron did not
speak at all about the Lakers head coaching gig until
about thirty minutes after he was offered the job on Thursday.
Only problem is, he did interview with Spectrum Sportsnet last
(28:31):
night and he inadvertently admitted that he spoke to Lebron
James on Monday before he was offered the job with
the Lakers. Chris Brussar trolling or rolling that if JJ
Reddick was lying about not speaking to Lebron about the
Lakers gig, that people should be upset about it.
Speaker 10 (28:49):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
I'm going to let's see.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Troll that, oh many, Look, I think we all know.
I think it's just common sense, even though I don't
think Lebron was like the reason.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
JJ got hired.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
To think that they didn't talk at all during their
breaks or after their podcast was over about the Lakers job,
I don't know how.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I'm not saying it was all in depth.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I'm not saying any of that, But to think that
there were no conversations about it at all, I think
that stretches logic, and so I don't think fans should
be mad that JJ denied it.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
It's not a big deal to me.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I'm trolling it too, oh Man, in part because the
implication with that was, like, JJ, did Lebron endorse you
for this job?
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I think Lebron also endorsed Dan Hurley for the job.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
We've heard it out of Dan Hurley's mouth when he
was talking to Colin Cowhert. It seemed like Lebron was
gonna be in communication with whoever was the next Lakers
head coach.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Trolling a Roland acable Fox Portredo saved the best for
last on this one.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Guys.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
I don't know if you saw this, but Hallmark is
teaming up with the NFL and the Kansas City Chiefs
for a very special Christmas theme movie called Holiday Touchdown. Obviously,
the league and the Chiefs trying to capitalize on their
new female fan base inspired by the Taylor Swift Travis
(30:26):
Kelcey connection.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Marn Weiss, you trolling a Roland that.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
The Shield has taken this newfound direction a step too far.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I'm rolling with that. They see me.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
The amount of times I will avoid, intentionally avoid this
movie will be plentiful.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I have no interest in this whatsoever. I hate the
way it sounds.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
I'm trolling it.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Oh man.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
I won't be going into the theater to see it, but.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Many female fans will, Manyie Taylor Swift fans will. It'll
be a cute, funny holiday maybe a round of it
will be a rom com, but it'll be a cute,
funny holiday story inspiring. I'm sure the Chiefs will win
the super Bowl in the story or whatever.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
I'm down with it. That's fine with me.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
And that's trollin' Roland, all right. That is trolling a
rolling sports radio. Oh man, we got one segment left
and it is about Lebron James.
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Martin Weiss reports that the Lakers are going to give
Lebron James a three year, one hundred and sixty million
(32:25):
dollar contract. No surprise there. Do you have an issue
with it? He'll be what forty two? No, he's done
with the contract.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Lebron at this point has shown that if he's going
to play, he's going to play for the Max. Like
this to me, it's you know, Chris, you learn something
at journalism school, right you go? You know, man dog
bites man is not news, but man bites dog that's news.
If Lebron wasn't playing for the MAX, that'd be the news.
I don't have any problem with it because he's still
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playing at a very very high level.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, I'm totally with you. He's playing well. He deserves
you know, the MAX. I mean, he's he is a
big reason. Look, the Lakers draw fans. They're the glamor
franchise of the NBA. If they didn't have Lebron, we
talked earlier about could they trade him the New York
We don't think it'll happen, but if they did, they
(33:20):
still would sell out games. But make no mistake that
Lebron James is a huge right now. He's the reason
that the Lakers are still top of mind when we
talk NBA. They're not a great team, they're not one
of the top contenders, if they're a contender at all,
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But because of Lebron, not just because they're the Lakers.
Because of Lebron, they are still they dominate the conversation
or they're one of the dominant teams in the conversations
when we talk about the NBA. And so he's worth
the I'm gonna rob g though might see it differently
(34:04):
as a Laker fan, A resident Laker fan here, you
got an issue with this, Rober.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
Not really, but I will say the last time something
like this came up was with Kobe Bryant. They gave
him like the going away present type contract, and he
obviously kept getting hurt to the end of his career.
So what kind of crippled their chances moving forward?
Speaker 5 (34:24):
You brought it up?
Speaker 7 (34:25):
Lebron's gonna be if he gets a three year deal,
he'll be forty two during that third year. Is there
any concern at all that if they offerim this kind
of contract is gonna come back to bite them.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, he probably will. Yeah, it probably will come back
to bid them. I mean, Lebron, look, he is still
playing great basketball.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
But because Kobe was playing great too, and then he
popped his achilles, then he popped his knee, and then
it was raped.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Yeah, I mean, he had.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
A couple of real serious injuries, and Lebron has been
banged up lately. Last year played seventy one games. But
here's the years before that, fifty five, fifty six, forty five,
sixty seven that was the lockout and championship year, and
then fifty five the year before that. So the seventy
one was in at least by what he had done
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with the Lakers an outlier. So I yeah, I do
think that there's gonna be a lot of stretches where
they don't have Lebron, and obviously that will hurt the
team because he won't be playing.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
So you won't be as good.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
But then when he comes back, you play differently, right,
And so look at bottom lines, I don't think they're
winning the championship either way, and that's what it's about
in LA championships or BUS so I would do it.
But yeah, I do think toward the end of this deal,
it probably will look hurt the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Yeah, I mean, but also, but you asked, okay, so
you make the point that Kobe his deal hurt the Lakers,
but I think it probably had a big part, a
big part, but them doing that saying look, we're gonna
take care of you, even if it may not be
the most financially prudent decision, had.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
A major influence in Lebron coming here in the first place.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
So I don't it may hurt the Lakers in a
short term, but if you look at the long term,
in the way that the Lakers continues. I mean that's
how they historically have built their team, just through free
agent acquisitions and trades as things of that nature. Then
I think it shows Hey, if you come here and
you win a championship here, we'll take care of you
on the back end, even if it may hurt Rob G.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Do you want Klay Thompson? Of course I do.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Chris, you don't try to fulfill the prophecy of future
Laker Klay Thompson.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Yeah, but you're getting em.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
I'll tell you what if if and this is all serious,
I know the future Laker things kind of a joke.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
But if if you just.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
Say that, because you're not a Laker fan, we get
all the best players.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
You know that.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
If Klay Thompson never would. But if he agreed to
like a three year mid level contract with the Lakers,
because they can offer him more than that, he would
be a fantastic fit with Lebron and AD And.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
He would be a good fit. I agree.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I agree, And obviously he's playoff tested, which is because.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
It would slot him into a more realistic role than
what he is in Golden State.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
No, I'd be a good signing and a good fit
for them.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
No, doubt.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You know what's interesting. I mean we talked about the
three year deal. When you think of it as three years,
it might not surprise people, but I just think the
feel will hit people like, really, wow, Lebron, assuming he
finishes his career with the Lakers and he just plays
out this three year deal with them, he will have
(37:36):
spent more time with the Lakers, at least in terms
of one stretch with.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
A team, than any other team in his career.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Like he did he went back to Cleveland, so totally
it was eleven years. But as far as straight he
played seven years with them and then four later after Miami.
This will be what ten, seven, eight, nine straight years
that Lebron plays with the Lakers. And I'm telling you
I will not think of Lebron as a Laker when
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he's done playing.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
I'll tell you that, will you.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
I think I'll think Miami first, but Laker probably second. Honestly,
Miami and Miami, yeah, I do. I remember, I'd be
a good topic for tomorrow. We'll do you think of Lebron?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, we will be here Martin Whiss filling in taking
shots but coming back swing and he'll be back tomorrow too.
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Phone at you?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You seem to use your phone. I don't get it, man,
I'm glad. I just I just brought this up.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
I mean I didn't even mean to go here. Yo.
What what is up though? With your phone? Broh, you
have to work.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We've had hundreds, if not thousands of people on this
show and not one of them has a phone as
bad as you I'm not.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Even trying to be funny.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
I will con I know was the last time I
saw it? The second and last time I saw you
at the super Bowl. The first thing you said when
you started reaching in my pocket, said let me see it?
Where is it? I'm like, what the what the hell
is this guy?
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Know it everything?
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For the real talk. I mean, you know your phone.
You got a problem with your phone. I don't know
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Hotline, I asked Rob G one question, how do I sound?
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Every Tuesday? Rob G says, you sound perfect? And then
I got on the air and all of a sudden,
this is what now G hop on the mic. Yes,
am I am?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I exaggerating no, but I will say, for whatever reason
it's saying, is Martin's problem or his fault? I just
go for whatever reason. When we talk off the air,
it sounds super clear. I don't know what happens between
us punching it up and getting it on the air,
but it definitely sounds different when he's actually on the air.
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That sounds like an Alex issue to me. I mean,
that's that's on DJ Alex Tyson.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Some technical producer somewhere.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
But Rob jan I will have sit and have conversations
afterwards and it's nothing real problem.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, well whatever, all right, But anyway, let's get to
this and uh man, the w NBA and Martin.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
You know, I've been saying it.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
The storylines are good for the league. Sure, we'll get
to the basketball. If the stories bring us there, then
we'll get to the basketball eventually. But just enjoy the
stories and eyeballs to your sport. And none other than
the legendary Magic Johnson has weighed in on this.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
And let me first start here by giving one.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I don't even know who the caller was, but one
of our callers called in near the end, it might
have even been after the collegiate basketball season, and he said,
I don't know if he asked me or he just
made a statement, but basically he was saying, Angel Reese
and Caitlin Clark could be to the NBA or WNBA
(03:35):
what Magic and Bird were to the NBA. And I
shot it down, not vehemently, but you know, I thought
that that's a little bit of a stretch because Bird
and Magic they were like, I mean, they were right.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
They were on the same level. You know.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Bird had led somewhat like Caitlin Clark, but different in
that Indiana state, even on the level of IOWA in
women's basketball, Like you know they were. That was like
leading a mid major to the an undefeated record in
the championship game. And Larry Bird was just phenomenal, took
the nation by storm, and Magic was the same way.
(04:16):
Did it differently, obviously, but he was. They were the
two best players in the country period.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And I didn't think. I knew Adel Reach was good,
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I mean I knew she was really good player and
a future All Star, most likely in the WNBA, but
I didn't think she was on the same level as Clark.
And so far now I do think, and we talked
about it yesterday. Clark has been the rookie of the year,
but Reese is giving her a surprise and run for
(04:48):
her money. And Andrew Reese is second in the league
and rebounding. She's averaging thirteen points a game, which is
very good for a rookie. Like she's balling and more important,
so she's played eat well enough and she's clearly the
second best rookie, and some would try to argue that
she should get the award, but she's.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Played well enough where the tension.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
The rivalry between the two is real, not just it
was real in college, clearly, but it's real.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
In the w NBA.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And it's not just because of the feistiness and the
pushing and shoving and you know, Reese clapping when her
teammate Kennedy Carter, you know, pushed or bumped into while
you want the character, yeah, hipcheck, that's a good way
to put it. Caitlyn Clark, it's real because they're both
very good players. And Magic Johnson has weighed in and
(05:48):
he tweeted this Martin Larry and I heightened the NBA's
overall popularity. The Lakers and Celtics sold out arenas throughout
the league and increased television viewership exponentially. The higher viewership
numbers led to the NBA signing significantly larger TV contracts,
(06:09):
which then led to higher salaries for all the players.
Caitlin and Angel are now doing the same thing, selling
out arenas and increasing the viewership. They have taken women's
basketball by storm, and with expiring TV deals on the horizon.
The WNBA is now in a position to negotiate higher
(06:30):
TV contracts and increase salaries for all of the talented players.
So he compared it to the way he and Bird
resurrected the NBA and Martin Robg's gonna give us some
numbers to kind of back that up, and then the floor's.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Yours, yeah, guys.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
So on June sixteenth, when the Fever faced the sky,
they had an average television audience of two point twenty
five million viewers. At the time, it was the largest
figure for ANYBA regular season game in twenty three you
talked about on the show. One week later, they broke
that record again two point three zero million viewers this
(07:10):
past weekend on ESPN. Now, I don't know how much
of that is both of them, how much are just
kating Clark because again full disclosure, Clark and the Fever,
just them minus Angel Reese have already had the most
viewed WNBA games ever for CBS, ESPN, ESPN two, ESPN
plus ABC and NBA TV.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
So I think that this rivalry is not Magic and
Bird yet, because what made Magic and Bird special. Now,
you obviously had the college lead up but what made
us care going after that was that they were both
superbly successful in the NBA, both individually and team success. Yes,
(07:59):
that's what's going through have to occur for this to
remain having the same level of Bird magic kind of
juice where we're setting viewership records and so on and
so forth. It's gonna have to be, Oh, Angel Rees
vers Kaitlyn Clark in the championship game or in the postseason,
depending on how it shakes out. When we see that
(08:19):
chapter one, chapter two, chapter three, very much like we
saw it when they were both in undergrad. We saw
chapter one, Angel Reese got the ring you know, famously
did the ring meat thing, all of that. The Kaitlin
Clark was started the firestorm.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Right then we.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Saw chapter two Kaitlyn Clark got the best of her
and that one goes on loses to South Carolina International
Championship game. What we're seeing now and the thing though, Chris,
if they're able to have that team's success, I think
that it could be right at that level of Magic
and Bird in terms of the injection of popularity and
(08:57):
the injection of the TV money and all of that
that Magic was alluding to in his tweet if no
other reason, because we are going to get a ton
of these matchups because the league is so relatively small
compared to other ones.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Right, we're gonna say team.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
It's not gonna be three months in between the next iteration,
So it'll be something that is consistently the conversation. And
I think what's odd, Like I was actually very interested
to hear because I was here doing updates on the
during the game on Sunday. Right, the conversation on Monday
was about the game.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
It wasn't.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
It was about the game and the way that the
game ended, and the way that Angel Rees had an
incredible fourth quarter to go ahead and get that win.
It was about how Caitlyn Clark only had one field
goal in tel in the last seven minutes.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Who's like, who's to blame?
Speaker 6 (09:50):
It was very much the same way that the conversations
are around the NBA. Right, It wasn't about the off
the court stuff. So I think we are almost we
are all almost already there to where we're just talking
about the game because of the storylines that have been
built up.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
That's the thing.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
We're going to see more and more of these because
this league is so relatively small compared to the NBA
was at the time of Magic and Bird in terms
of teams.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Now, you're you're absolutely right in that if that's what
they're gonna have to do to equal Magic and Bird,
you know, on on a relative scale, it's never obviously
gonna be the NBA, but relatively speaking, if they both
start winning, if they both start winning, they will definitely,
(10:40):
you know that that's the next step for.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Them to get to.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And it's a lot like it in other ways, Like
Caitlin Clark, Let's say she wins Rookie of the Year.
I think she's on pace to do that. Bird won
Rookie of the Year, but Magic won the championship.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeap, you know, and I.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Look the Chicago Sky are. They're both at the same
level their teams. They're fighting for that eighth and final
playoff spot and maybe though rise. They've got time for
both of them to rise in the standings, but that
neither of them are on like the best teams or
even close to the best teams in the league.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
So they won't do that this year, it doesn't look like.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
But you're right if they were to somehow both like
start winning the way Magic and bird did it really
would take off.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
And it's great.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I'm happy for the WNBA. I'm happy for the players
in the league. I'm happy for all the you know,
the girls basketball players that aren't even in the WNBA
because obviously they've had the league to shoot for as
far as getting there. But now it's a league that,
at least for now, is getting more publicity. Let me
(11:58):
ask you this, Martin, do you see it ever like
kind of going back, maybe not quite to where it was,
but kind of fading from the national consciousness, which it
is squarely in the national consciousness right now.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
It I think it really has to do with the
strength of the college game because what we had, like
when we saw like this, the w NBA boost that
we're seeing now is direct result of the rivalry of
angel Resa, Kaylin Clark and college. Right That's what is
Like you said, there's storylines, right, like, that's what kind
(12:34):
of is what we're where. That's growing and it was
on the way up, but this skyrocketed it. So let's say,
for example, we get you know, you know, Juju Watkins
and I'm not sure who the other you know, hot
sophomore guard or forward or whoever. In the in women's
college basketball, they got some great players right now.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
I mean Page Becker's like you said.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Juju Page only be there for one more year. That's right.
But I'm saying, do.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
You think see I don't where I disagree, I don't.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I think it's dependent on Caitlin and the current players
in the WNBA. I mean, Asia Wilson's fantastic, and they
got some other great players too. But like, if let's
just look, the rivalry is good. But as Rob g
he read the numbers, Martin for the most part is Caitlyn.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
It's not a fifty to fifty thing as far as
boosting the league. We've heard the numbers.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Now, the rivalry is is you can call that fifty
to fifty. Angel is more popular than most other players
in the WNBA. If not, I don't know, if I
say if not all of them. But but Caitlyn Clark
is the one driving these numbers, and so I look,
I think Martin is as long as she plays well,
(13:53):
and if she does become like the dominant figure or
at least one of the top two or three along
with Angel Wilson, because she ain't going nowhere, then I
think I think that will boost the WNBA by itself,
irregardless of what the college players do beneath them.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Well, I think if we see you know, college players
like you know we have, we get that buy in
and then they go to different teams. All of a sudden,
we're paying attention to more teams in the WNBA. And
again there's only a halfu of twelve teams in the
whole league. So you get a star on every team,
then boom, we're playing attention.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
To everybody, which is why what the what's boosts the
DNBA exactly is that they marketed individual stars. All right,
It's the odd couple Chris and Martin eight seven, seven
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A seven seven ninety nine on Fox is Clark Reees,
Magic Bird your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Let's go to Andre in Massachusetts. Andre in Massachusetts. You're
on the Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Yeah, you're doing thanks to taking Mike call. Clark and
Reeves has the potential to match a Larry and Michael.
I'm not talking about these two players meeting in the
National Championship Game Michigan State versus Indiana State as they did.
I can't go to that level, but Angel Reeves definitely
showed something in that in that Marquee game. She's a
baller in her own right and kind of ascending for
(16:38):
the Chicago skuy Caitlin Clark is also going toe for
toe to toe with all the top guards in the
WNBA and specifically the WNBA. Unlike some of these other
major professional sports, they're marketing their stars. They're showing them
in multiple dimensions, different type of ways. They're different interests,
so you're seeing different sides of them, and their personalities
are distinctive, So you know, you do have this theoretical class.
(17:03):
I don't know, you know, they might not necessarily see
eye to eye, but Magic and Larry didn't see eye
to eye on the court. There's nothing wrong with that.
But I don't know if there's there's an animis between
them and that there doesn't need to be. But the
w NBA, again at the leadership that we're seeing, based
on what David Stern established, you're creating these narratives. They
have the talent on and off the court, and I
(17:23):
think it has legs this season and in kind of
going forward to distinctive personality, distinctive games, and distinctive stars
to attach yourself to, to stay connected to the game. Thanks
taking the call.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Yep, all right, man, Let's try another Andre out Andre
and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
You're up this time.
Speaker 10 (17:45):
We'll Chris listen. Look, I'm forty one years old, right.
I've been watching girls women's basketball forever since I was
a kid. I remember Marrying Jones and Charlotte Smith and
North Carolina last year that this is going to be
Magic and Bird when they were playing in college. And
(18:06):
what Chris said was Angel is not as good as.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
That you that did I referenced earlier.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
I'm not sure, but but but I know that h
Angel is not as good as a player as Magic was.
But because of social media, her celebrity is just as impactful.
And with them too, they got the whole element with
Magic and Bird, you know, to race the culture that
(18:37):
just two ballers and it buils down to that and
they are Caitlin is leading the the celebrity, the attention.
But but but Angel, she needed Angel as that that
that that that uhol she needed, she needed angel that boosted.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
It's certainly possible. I did give it a boost.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Uh, yeah, it's It's definitely gave it a boost.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah, Jim Man Atlanta, you're on the couple. What you
got my friend?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
What's up? How you doing?
Speaker 11 (19:17):
I'm doing good man?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (19:18):
Martin? You know, Divine hear you?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
There you go, Martin's in alpha right.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah. But I still love you, man.
Speaker 11 (19:27):
Yeah, we still love you. Look, it might not gonna
be the only one that's just gonna tell the truth
about this. It's never gonna be magic and burdening his
wife because it never had anything to do with the court.
Nobody paid attention to injuries or Cait mcclark really until
after that game, whichever she's gaged when she chased after
(19:49):
Kate mcclark. You know, they felt like, I'm just gonna
say it. They felt like the white girl was offended,
and uh, nobody you know, next when it all really started,
nobody really cared. And so I think this is just
the reason why people cheer Jerry Cooney over Larry Holmes. Uh,
people to chose the university team over U n l B.
(20:10):
It's just you know, it's just what this this is
what it is.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
And so I think, but let me.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Ask you this.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Let me ask you because Cooney Holmes, I mean, Cooney
was never better than Holmes, but Caitlyn was better. It
is better than angel Rees. Wouldn't you agree with that saying.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
I agree with that? But that's my point. Is not
about basketball because the people that are coming to and
talking about, you know, this is not even they don't
even care about the basketball.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
That's what the league as a whole has a challenge
because if people want to talk basketball, they're gonna talk
NBA basketball.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
This is the storyline.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
And the hope is that, you know, like Martin said,
if they both start winning, maybe it'll get about the
basketball at least to some.
Speaker 11 (20:57):
Degree, because other than that, it won't last very long.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
But also, like it was about the basketball, it was
a basketball, but you can't tell me there was a
little white versus black with It was definitely there, but
it was primary.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I mean, I don't even say primarily it was.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I get this point that it was about basketball, but yeah,
the white black thing, especially back in the eighties, Oh
it was yeah, that was huge and it was man,
it wasn't until recently.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I actually met some brothers that pulled for Bird and
the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I thought it was all completely nah dudes, not from ball.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
It was shocked because I thought it was.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
All black and white.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
The blacks like the Lakers, the whites like the Celtics.
That's what it was primarily in my experiences, other than
maybe people from those cities, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
But I mean, it's honestly, it's one of the oldest
tales in sports.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
And I didn't realize it until I was at the
Connor McGregor Floy Mayweather uh world press tour, if you
remember the press leading up to that fight. I was
looking around and it looked I was like, look at this,
all the black people over here rooting for Floyd.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I was in was that Staples Center, and I.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Was like, I've never seen anything like this, so so.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Just outwardly, and that was the first time you'd seen
something like that, Well, yeah, I think christ i'h only
thirty four, so it wasn't like I but that was
the first time I experienced it, so, you know, just aggressively,
and then I was like, wow, this is really something.
And then you started to kind of it kind of
triggered something in my brain went back and forth. I
was like, wow, that's true, Martin. You could go back
(22:36):
and point at them all, all the different examples.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I'm gonna keep it real. And you know, obviously I'm
older than you. When I was growing up, it was
I pulled for the brothers period. Sure, I pulled for
the black coaches. I pulled for the black quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
There.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I grew up a Rabbit Steelers fan. It was because
my even though I lived in Cincinnati and was a
Steelers fan, because my dad was a Steelers fan. And
the reason he was a Steelers fan was because Joe
Gillen was a black quarterback they had who initially kind
of beat out Terry Bradshaw and then you know, Bradshaw
took over. But it was because and that was really
(23:18):
most of my you know, all my life at home
and until like it got to a point for me
because I would pull for I lived in Indiana when
Magic and Bird played their famous college basketball championship game,
I was pulling for Magic and the Michigan State Spartans
because he was black.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
And it was because, I mean that was in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
It was like, man, we were getting you know, we
didn't have as much in society. We didn't have as
many you know, certainly not as many politicians and black
faces on television and things like that, and we hadn't
even dominated sports yet to the degree that we have now.
(24:05):
And so it was like it was kind of the
early stages of that. And so it was like man,
I took, and I think blacks in general took.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
We took a ton of pride in that. And Bird
was like a threat to that.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I mean really, and I didn't really like Bird as
a player because that was like he's a threat. I
didn't really think of it that way, but that's really
what it was. And now though, and I'm just gonna
keep it real, blacks have dominated sports so much.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
There's so many black quarterbacks now, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
That it's it's I don't just pull for somebody because
they're black now, because I mean, we I'm looking to
establish our greatness in so many other realms of society now.
I mean sports is sports, like we we dominate. We've
dominated sports now, you know, particularly basketball and football. So
(25:00):
it's not what it used to be for me when
it was not as many blacks, you know, playing and
dominating and things like that, and there was still a
lot of blatant racism. There is still something in the
front offices, the coaching hires, and obviously ownership.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
We need more black owners. But it was on the
field back then, no black quarterbacks, no black safeties, no
black centers, line back you know, like none.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
But you know, it was still there were still those stereotypes.
And that's all gone on the field and on the court.
And so now I just the race doesn't determine dominate
my who I root for sure, just because you know
what I mean, Like, We've established dominance in sports, and
(25:49):
I'm looking to established dominance in other fat facets of
society or at least greatness and where we prosper.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
All right, trolling a roll with Martin Weiss's next, but.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
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Speaker 6 (26:11):
They see me, Tom Brady, he's done.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Aaron Rodgers did not have a Pro Bowl season.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Kiss me, it's trolling, or Roland, that's.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Right, it is trolling. Rolling here on the odd couple.
I am not Martin Wise. I am the super producer
Rob g and I'm here to present to you three
very interesting topics that we ain't quite have time to
get to in today's main show. But if the guys
like the story, you get the roll center they see me,
they don't get it. You don't like you get the
troll sound. Oh man, It's very simple. It's a very
(26:45):
unique segment. No one's ever done it before, so let's
get right to it. According to friend of the Show
This Guy, NBA insider Mark Stein, the New Orleans Pelicans
are likely to trade all Stars Brandon Ingram at some
point this week ahead of the start of the new
twenty twenty four twenty twenty five NBA League year. Martin
(27:09):
Wise trolling and rolling brandon Ingram will be the biggest
name traded or to change teams this off season.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I'm rolling with.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
That and Mark because of all these new stipulations, like
Jewell em Bean said, the reason why the Celtics won't
repeat the second Apron second and first April's gonna be rough.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I'm gonna trolling, oh Man.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Could be wrong, but it looks like Paul George will
be on the move. And I still think he's a
bigger name than Brandon Ingram. Maybe he'll end up with
the Clippers again, but I think he he could be
moving and he's.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Bigger, all right.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Story number two trolling rolling here on the O couple
Fox Sports Radio. You guys talked about an hour or two.
JJ Reddick may or may not be lie about his
interaction with a young woman twenty years ago. What we
do know that he may or not be lying about, though,
involves the Lakers and whether or not he spoke to
(28:11):
Lebron James about his head coaching gig, because at his
press conference he maintained that him and Lebron did not
speak at all about the Lakers head coaching gig until
about thirty minutes after he was offered the job on Thursday.
Only problem is, he did interview with Spectrum Sportsnet last
(28:31):
night and he inadvertently admitted that he spoke to Lebron
James on Monday before he was offered the job with
the Lakers. Chris Brussar trolling or rolling that if JJ
Reddick was lying about not speaking to Lebron about the
Lakers gig, that people should be upset about it.
Speaker 10 (28:49):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
I'm going to let's see.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Troll that, oh many, Look, I think we all know.
I think it's just common sense, even though I don't
think Lebron was like the reason.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
JJ got hired.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
To think that they didn't talk at all during their
breaks or after their podcast was over about the Lakers job,
I don't know how.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I'm not saying it was all in depth.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I'm not saying any of that, But to think that
there were no conversations about it at all, I think
that stretches logic, and so I don't think fans should
be mad that JJ denied it.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
It's not a big deal to me.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I'm trolling it too, oh Man, in part because the
implication with that was, like, JJ, did Lebron endorse you
for this job?
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I think Lebron also endorsed Dan Hurley for the job.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
We've heard it out of Dan Hurley's mouth when he
was talking to Colin Cowhert. It seemed like Lebron was
gonna be in communication with whoever was the next Lakers
head coach.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Trolling a Roland acable Fox Portredo saved the best for
last on this one.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Guys.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
I don't know if you saw this, but Hallmark is
teaming up with the NFL and the Kansas City Chiefs
for a very special Christmas theme movie called Holiday Touchdown. Obviously,
the league and the Chiefs trying to capitalize on their
new female fan base inspired by the Taylor Swift Travis
(30:26):
Kelcey connection.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Marn Weiss, you trolling a Roland that.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
The Shield has taken this newfound direction a step too far.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I'm rolling with that. They see me.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
The amount of times I will avoid, intentionally avoid this
movie will be plentiful.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I have no interest in this whatsoever. I hate the
way it sounds.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
I'm trolling it.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Oh man.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
I won't be going into the theater to see it, but.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Many female fans will, Manyie Taylor Swift fans will. It'll
be a cute, funny holiday maybe a round of it
will be a rom com, but it'll be a cute,
funny holiday story inspiring. I'm sure the Chiefs will win
the super Bowl in the story or whatever.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
I'm down with it. That's fine with me.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
And that's trollin' Roland, all right. That is trolling a
rolling sports radio. Oh man, we got one segment left
and it is about Lebron James.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Keep it locked, Fox Sports.
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Martin Weiss reports that the Lakers are going to give
Lebron James a three year, one hundred and sixty million
(32:25):
dollar contract. No surprise there. Do you have an issue
with it? He'll be what forty two? No, he's done
with the contract.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Lebron at this point has shown that if he's going
to play, he's going to play for the Max. Like
this to me, it's you know, Chris, you learn something
at journalism school, right you go? You know, man dog
bites man is not news, but man bites dog that's news.
If Lebron wasn't playing for the MAX, that'd be the news.
I don't have any problem with it because he's still
(32:55):
playing at a very very high level.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, I'm totally with you. He's playing well. He deserves
you know, the MAX. I mean, he's he is a
big reason. Look, the Lakers draw fans. They're the glamor
franchise of the NBA. If they didn't have Lebron, we
talked earlier about could they trade him the New York
We don't think it'll happen, but if they did, they
(33:20):
still would sell out games. But make no mistake that
Lebron James is a huge right now. He's the reason
that the Lakers are still top of mind when we
talk NBA. They're not a great team, they're not one
of the top contenders, if they're a contender at all,
(33:43):
But because of Lebron, not just because they're the Lakers.
Because of Lebron, they are still they dominate the conversation
or they're one of the dominant teams in the conversations
when we talk about the NBA. And so he's worth
the I'm gonna rob g though might see it differently
(34:04):
as a Laker fan, A resident Laker fan here, you
got an issue with this, Rober.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
Not really, but I will say the last time something
like this came up was with Kobe Bryant. They gave
him like the going away present type contract, and he
obviously kept getting hurt to the end of his career.
So what kind of crippled their chances moving forward?
Speaker 5 (34:24):
You brought it up?
Speaker 7 (34:25):
Lebron's gonna be if he gets a three year deal,
he'll be forty two during that third year. Is there
any concern at all that if they offerim this kind
of contract is gonna come back to bite them.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, he probably will. Yeah, it probably will come back
to bid them. I mean, Lebron, look, he is still
playing great basketball.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
But because Kobe was playing great too, and then he
popped his achilles, then he popped his knee, and then
it was raped.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Yeah, I mean, he had.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
A couple of real serious injuries, and Lebron has been
banged up lately. Last year played seventy one games. But
here's the years before that, fifty five, fifty six, forty five,
sixty seven that was the lockout and championship year, and
then fifty five the year before that. So the seventy
one was in at least by what he had done
(35:16):
with the Lakers an outlier. So I yeah, I do
think that there's gonna be a lot of stretches where
they don't have Lebron, and obviously that will hurt the
team because he won't be playing.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
So you won't be as good.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
But then when he comes back, you play differently, right,
And so look at bottom lines, I don't think they're
winning the championship either way, and that's what it's about
in LA championships or BUS so I would do it.
But yeah, I do think toward the end of this deal,
it probably will look hurt the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Yeah, I mean, but also, but you asked, okay, so
you make the point that Kobe his deal hurt the Lakers,
but I think it probably had a big part, a
big part, but them doing that saying look, we're gonna
take care of you, even if it may not be
the most financially prudent decision, had.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
A major influence in Lebron coming here in the first place.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
So I don't it may hurt the Lakers in a
short term, but if you look at the long term,
in the way that the Lakers continues. I mean that's
how they historically have built their team, just through free
agent acquisitions and trades as things of that nature. Then
I think it shows Hey, if you come here and
you win a championship here, we'll take care of you
on the back end, even if it may hurt Rob G.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Do you want Klay Thompson? Of course I do.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Chris, you don't try to fulfill the prophecy of future
Laker Klay Thompson.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Yeah, but you're getting em.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
I'll tell you what if if and this is all serious,
I know the future Laker things kind of a joke.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
But if if you just.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
Say that, because you're not a Laker fan, we get
all the best players.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
You know that.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
If Klay Thompson never would. But if he agreed to
like a three year mid level contract with the Lakers,
because they can offer him more than that, he would
be a fantastic fit with Lebron and AD And.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
He would be a good fit. I agree.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I agree, And obviously he's playoff tested, which is because.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
It would slot him into a more realistic role than
what he is in Golden State.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
No, I'd be a good signing and a good fit
for them.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
No, doubt.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You know what's interesting. I mean we talked about the
three year deal. When you think of it as three years,
it might not surprise people, but I just think the
feel will hit people like, really, wow, Lebron, assuming he
finishes his career with the Lakers and he just plays
out this three year deal with them, he will have
(37:36):
spent more time with the Lakers, at least in terms
of one stretch with.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
A team, than any other team in his career.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Like he did he went back to Cleveland, so totally
it was eleven years. But as far as straight he
played seven years with them and then four later after Miami.
This will be what ten, seven, eight, nine straight years
that Lebron plays with the Lakers. And I'm telling you
I will not think of Lebron as a Laker when
(38:08):
he's done playing.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
I'll tell you that, will you.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
I think I'll think Miami first, but Laker probably second. Honestly,
Miami and Miami, yeah, I do. I remember, I'd be
a good topic for tomorrow. We'll do you think of Lebron?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, we will be here Martin Whiss filling in taking
shots but coming back swing and he'll be back tomorrow too.
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