June 25, 2024 • 39 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Chris share their thoughts on JJ Redick publicly shooting down allegations that he called a woman the N-word back in college. Plus, writer and director Mike Nicoll swings by to promote his upcoming film ‘The Spoils’, which spotlights the inner-workings of AAU basketball. Finally, the Odd Couple Callers bring the heat in this week’s edition of Trash Talk.
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Tireg dot com is the way tirebine.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Should be, and of course, the Eye Couple, even with
Martin Weiss sitting in for Rob Parker, is the way
sports talk radio should be.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It is a trash talking.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Tuesday, trash talking right there.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
That no wow, But you.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Know what, I just got called up a out the
bullpen again tomorrow, Chris, so I'll be with you.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Then I heard he from I'm not even gonna make
light of this, but had somebody had to take care
of with his family. So he was set to join us,
but instead we will have Martin Weiss in.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So I'm looking forward to that. But we got two
hours left tonight, so let's keep this thing popping.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
But yeah, end of the hour, about thirty minutes or
so thirty five minutes. You start calling in at eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine to weigh in on
who you want to trash. You got thirty to forty
seconds to do, so Martin, anybody you're trashing, I might.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Have to take trash Rock Parker for taking as much
time off, but nah, I won't.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He's off all week. Sean King will be in on
Thursday and Fridays.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Can I trash Martin Weiss for making that comment about
Rob Balker like he's not benefiting from this right now?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Right? You should feeling me, dog.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You should be hoping he stays away another week and
then I choose you to.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Fill his shoes.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
I would say this.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
You know there will be baseball games played, so the
chances that Rob here is fifty to fifty, because if
he's not here, he's definitely got Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He's traveling to some games.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
All right, well, this is interesting Martin Weiss's next topic,
and we're gonna take some time with it. Some of
you may know, some of you may not, But a
woman named Haleema Nash claims that when she was once
on the campus of Duke University that JJ Reddick called
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her the N word.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Here's what she tweeted this morning.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I've only been called the IN word to my face
by a white man once in my life, and it
was on the campus of Duke University while I was
doing work with the basketball team. And today he was
named the new head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What a world.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
She obviously is talking about JJ Reddick and JJ Reddick's camp.
Martin just within the last hour told TMZ dot com
that there is no truth to her story. The headline reads,
JJ Redick denies calling woman inWORD. Now TMZ reached out
(03:45):
to JJ's camp and here's what they were told. So
direct quote in the story, it reads, no, it never happened.
That's it. It was shortened the way TMZ described that.
They said, we reached out to Reddick's camp for a
response to the claim and they completely shut it down.
(04:09):
Now I did a little digging. I did not talk
to this woman, but I did do some digging. I was,
as Rob g knows, I was trying to get her
on the show because I do want to kind of,
you know, this is obviously a huge claim, and want
to get her on the show to talk about it,
verify if it's true and her account wasn't hacked, and
(04:29):
things like that. From what I understand, she does not
want to do any media. We'll see if she keeps
that that going. But and when what I understand Martin,
she was surprised at how this thing kind of snowball.
And the reason we didn't even lead the show with
it was because we just wanted to kind of make
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sure this thing, you know, that was really accurate.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Before we dealt with it.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
But now JJ re camp answers it and they deny it.
And here's what I'll say to that, Martin. I don't
know if Haleema Nash will come out and speak to it, but.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
What I will say.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Is that JJ Reddick better not be lying, or whoever
spoke for him better not be lying. Yeah, because if you,
I mean, it'd be bad enough if you did it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
But you can you know it.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Was if it had happened, I will say that because
he's denied it, it would have been twenty years ago
something like that. You could, you know, I would you
could you know, maybe survive that, right, right, that was
so long ago. Obviously he's developed good relationships with African
Americans now.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
The one thing is not like he.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Didn't know any African Americans that do, not like he
hadn't been playing with black players much of his life,
you know, as a top great high school and college player.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
But I agree with you that you.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Know, it's twenty years ago. If it wasn't a pattern
in something, you you know, your behavior at Duke and
after that would have to line up with somebody that
is not racist, and somebody who was remorseful if indeed
they did that, and you could perhaps survive it. The
one thing that would possibly nail him if he had
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done it and apologize for it, Martin, would be if
players just weren't feeling you because of it, you know,
and obviously you need black players, and if they weren't
feeling you, how they reacted to you would be an
issue or could be an issue. But if if it
comes out and I you know, I mean, look, you
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got two people making claims.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I don't know who's right or who's telling the truth,
but I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Just saying it better not JJ better.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Not be lying because if.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It comes out like I said, it would have been
bad enough, but then.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You didn't deny it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
That that very well might cost him his job if
it comes out that this was actually true. So I
don't know if they were one on one, if it
was people or whatever. If indeed, again he says it
didn't happen, or his people say it didn't happen, So
we will see, but he better not be lying. That's
my main thing. He better not be lying. And I
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think you're the point you met earlier is why we
didn't leave.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
The show with it without him responding, because I mean,
I had seen this tweet going around, people have sent
it to my phone, and I was like, look, we'll
find out sooner or later, because the Internet never forgets, right.
The Internet last forever, especially when you look at some
of these, you know, repositories and blogger sites and especially
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early internet.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Right, So.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
If in fact it had happened, right, And.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I'm not saying, I'm not denying, I'm not taking either
side of it, I'm just laying it out. If it
did happen and he had said some level of contrition
and then said, well, look show me the other instance
in life in which this occurred, then we could have,
I think a different level of conversation. I think to
you would out there with a lot of it, a
lot of contingencies about players and how they feel and
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so on, and how the general consensus feels about it
after the fact.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
If but I just maybe I'm maybe I'm naive, Maybe I'm.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Just I just have trouble believing that one per Like
if you're the type of person that will call somebody
the end word, I have trouble believing that it's all
you would only do it one time. I feel like
that's one of those damn breakings where it would just
continually happen, and maybe not happen all the time, but
happen enough to where we will hear somebody else come
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out from this, right, somebody else come out and say, oh,
this also happened to me. This all like very much
like when we hear one allegation of sexual will assault
by somebody, and then all of a sudden we hear
multiple and then boom, boom, bo boom, and then the
next day, and then the next day and then the
next day, and now it's like, all right, well, hey,
there's a lot of smoke around this.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Maybe fire here.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Right right, No, look, you're right, and this is interesting.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well and also I say, when they acknowledged that it
never happened, I think, you know, if in fact it
never did, like I probably would have just left this
you saying.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Well that it would have been and we don't know, Martin,
would media have jumped on this because I was surprised
it wasn't trending like you said. I received you know,
people send it to me as well, and it wasn't
trending somewhat surprisingly because it got and I'm about to
look up the number now, rob g you may have
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it that it got something like ten million when the
TMZ story came out, it was ten million views. It's
probably more than that now, Robbie, see if you can
get the number on how many views this is. But yeah,
you're I don't know. It may have gotten so big.
(10:09):
It's twelve million views, so it may have gotten so
big that they would have had to respond to it.
But you you know, it's interesting. Would would the route
of just denying it not then like it wasn't there
have you know?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Worked? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I mean I think somebody somewhere next time he was
in front of a microphone. I would hope that somebody
would have asked him JJ, there was an allegation on Twitter.
You're not accusing him of it. Their allegation on Twitter
that you call this woman the N word?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Is it true?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And give him an opportunity to respond?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, yeah, somebody would have asked him that.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I'm sure, but they, you know, they responded to it,
and like, I mean, that's all I can say. Mark, Now,
what do you think? Do you agree with me if
he's lying? I mean, it's bad enough if he did it.
But if he's lying, do you think he can survive that?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
No? I probably not.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
No, I don't think he should can survive it.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I think that he would have had to if, in fact,
again this happened, he would have had to have been
forthcoming in the moment as soon as this kind of
came out, like right now, he would have had to
have been forthcoming and then speak to the twenty odd
years of his life from that moment to now and
show you know, look at my track record. This this
was something that happened to one off.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
It was a mistake.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
It was this was that I'm terribly sorry for all
the people I offended, so on and so forth. But
now you got people screenshot and now they're old blogs
like I don't think that bost it. But dot com
necessarily has the same journalistic standards as CNN, you know.
But there's headlines here leaked email shows white NBA baller
(11:55):
JJ Reddick called ex groupie girlfriend a dirty N word
and stupid word, and that was public.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Now where's that?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I know it's in bossip, but where was that? Just
where was the source of that information?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
So the source of it was they're saying, and again
this article was published February eleventh, twenty fourteen, so over
ten years ago. Okay, But they are saying, we first
reported a legal document that was drawn up in two
thousand and seven by lawyers representing NBA player JJ Redick
and his then pregnant blue model group e Vanessa Lopez.
(12:28):
So they obviously are taking some editorial uh you know,
leeway here, but it's saying it's reported from a legal
document that was drawn up in two thousand and seven
and so. But my point to that is we will
I think we will get through the bottom of this.
Or if it really had, like if there was a
history of this, well, no by this time tomorrow, because
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the Internet never sleeps.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, you're right about that. We're gonna throw this out
to you guys again. We're not We're not saying JJ's line.
We're not saying Helima's line.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
We don't know. You got two people.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's a he said, she said thing in the very
definition of that term. One of them is lying, And
like I said, if it's JJ Reddick, it's not gonna
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Speaker 3 (13:24):
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Speaker 1 (13:27):
You're turning away in on this story that has now
become a big deal. A woman accuses JJ Reddick of
calling her the N word when he was a student
at Duke. His people, his camp firmly denies it. What
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We usually don't take calls on the second hour of
a trash Talking Tuesday, but we thought you guys might
want to weigh in on this JJ Reddick situation with
the N word. Woman accuses him of calling her that
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back at Duke twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Roughly, he denies it firmly. Your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Let's go to Thomas in the Bay Area. You're on
the Eye Couple on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
What's up, Dolls? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 9 (15:16):
I remember JJ and Duke twenty years ago. I remember
him getting drafted to Orlando. He's made over one hundred
million dollars in his career. He was also on that
Clippers team when the Donald Sterling the.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Bible broke out.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
I mean, why didn't that allegation come.
Speaker 10 (15:32):
Out then, when his owner of that team.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
Was being accused and was found guilty of, you.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Know, all of that misconduct.
Speaker 10 (15:39):
Why now that he's going to be the head.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
Coach of the Lakers, that we hear this story.
Speaker 10 (15:43):
It doesn't something seem.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's a great that that is something. And like I said,
I tried to get the young lady, you know, I
didn't talk to her, but tried to get her on
the phone through some different avenues. And that's what would
have been one of the first questions, like why now
if it happened, why now he played in the NBA
for fifteen years, and if if you know, it was
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something to do with the Lakers, I mean you would
think maybe she puts that out there when his name
first circulates as a candidate, you know, if it was
more about the Lakers and that being her team.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But you know, but hey, it doesn't mean it's not true.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
So well, and also too, it doesn't mean that it's
the first time that she's come out with it. This
is the first time that we have caught it right.
This is like you said, this wasn't going by I
read it right.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
So this is it.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
May she may have made these claims in the past
and we just missed it as a society.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Let's go to Kevin and Culver. Shitty. You're on the
eye couple on Fox Sports Radio. God is good all
the time, all the time.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
Man, Yo, thank you, thank you, beg you yo.
Speaker 9 (16:50):
This is bull Mallarkey.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
JJ Reddick has been front and center on the NBA
Finals broadcast. He's been an outspoken figure on ESPN talking
about race, culture, racial issues. People have like talked smacked
about him doing that, s he speaks out too much.
He's doing a podcast with the most popular best player
in the world, Lebron James. He was on the Clippers
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team with Donald Stone. He was the white player that
kept the locker room together when they didn't want to
play and do certain things.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
He was he was.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
They magnified him for that he was. He was looking
at as a locker room mill for what he did
bringing the team together. So this makes no sense to me.
Another thing to you. I'll let you guys in on
a little secret. When these NBA teams hired these coaches,
they bet they go all the way back to AAU
they would have found this. When he was at Duke
playing for coach k with Jay Williams. You think nobody
would have checked him and this one came out. This
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is a bull story. And of all people, this isn't
Wyley Cooper and a concert on a hot mic being
angry and forceful using the D word on Tate when
he actually played after that. This is an allegation from
JJ Reddick, one of the most outspoken racial players in league,
figure in the league on racial issues. It makes no
sense to me, and I'll put my name to it.
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I think JJ Reddick is completely innocent on this and
it's not JJ Reddick, And I hope he keeps coaching
Lakers because his character is great character and I'll stand
by that with all the players who speak for him,
I'm believing JJ Reddick. I'm not even putting any thoughts
of this. This thing is a bull story to be
a story.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Now, Chris, let me ask you, did you consider, prior
to the last twenty minutes, did you consider JJ Reddick
as one of the more outspoken people when it comes
to racial issues of sports, Because no, I never, you know,
I feel like you have a pretty close ear to
these type of things, and I've never I wouldn't have this.
I would have described him as neutral at best, right,
(18:42):
like I have to you know, prior I would And
obviously I covered.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
JJ when he was playing.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I don't know him well, interacted with him a little bit,
and he was fine.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
You know, I liked him to the degree that I
talked with him.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
But and my assumption, my assumption, obviously you could be
you know, still be racist kind of in the closet
if you play in the NBA, right, guy, But you're growing,
if you're playing ball at the highest level as a
young player, you're playing with black players and you're getting
to know him and Martin no surprise probably, But most
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of the white guys in the league that I covered,
they were all in the hip hop, you know, they
had kind of adopted some forms of black popular culture,
just because that's who they were around when they played
AU and all that stuff. And obviously JJ played in
the NBA for a long time, so you would think, man,
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he ain't.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
He can't be racist like that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But you know, stranger things have happened, and you know,
like I said, I just I hope he's not lying
because I hope that a guy that was around black
folks like that even at Duke wasn't feeling that way
and saying stuff like that. And also I just hope
it's not true period, And but for him it better.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Not be true well, because I don't think he survived
if I was thinking about this just in the break
the second ago, JJ Reddick, like his basketball life has
been very, very long. When you consider like where he
came on the scene, it was almost like.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
The Kate with the attention that's paid to Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
He was phenomenal du right, but even his freshman his
freshman year, it's kind of like the attention attention that's
paid to Caitlin Clark now, where everything he did at
Duke was a news story, right, and a lot of
people hated him for that, right, A lot of people
hated it.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Oh, yeah, not what the Duke, you know, he was
exactly he was in the Duke.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Bobby Hurley, that.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Was the viewpoint. Yeah, Christian Layton or Danny Ferry.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah, all those guys and so like when I when
you hear it, it's kind of like, oh, well, you know,
could have happened.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
But I'm not saying it did.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
But it's just like when you consider those factors twenty
some years ago, Yeah, I feel like, you know, it
could have been something that could have happened.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
All right, it's the Yeah couple, Chris and Martin. We
got Mike Nicole who's a writer and director of a movie.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Martin.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I can't wait to see it. It's not out yet,
but I do have a copy. I'm gonna check it out.
It's called The Spoils and it is about AAU culture.
It focuses on the team in comp there was it
the Compton Magic focuses on them. That's like the best
AAU team in the country. And it looks like a
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fantastic movie. And we're gonna he's a director. He's gonna
join us at in a few minutes befirst.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
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Speaker 1 (21:43):
That's a right man. The low quation is Brian Finley.
We're live from the tiereg dot com studios. Our next
guest is the director of the new up and upcoming film.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
It's not quite out yet.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It's called The Spoils about AAU basketball in their premiere program,
The Compton Magic.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I can't wait to see it. Mike Nickel, Mike, welcome
to the.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
Odd Couple, gentlemen. Thank you for having me. It's it's
a pleasure to be here and chop it up with
you guys.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
No, man, it's great to have you.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And I haven't As I said, I haven't seen the
movie yet, but I have seen the trailer and it
looks fantastic.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
So just tell us what it's about, give us a
little detail.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
Well, I appreciate that, and just real quick, I do
want to let you guys know that the film actually
is out. Okay, yeah, we actually know.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
It's all good.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
It's all good. We had our New York premiere last night.
It was amazing, packed house, and there's just been like
a ton of great now it's just been like received
so well. So I encourage everybody to go check out
the film The Spoils. It's on Joel tot Film or
you can go to the spoilsmovie dot com and dive
deeper there. But check Chris, you know, man, like I'm
here to talk about the American basketball system. You know,
(22:54):
on its face, our film is grounded in the aau
graduroots level and we have pretty amazing access, I would
say unprecedented access. But really what I wanted to do
was create like this kaleidoscopic system portrait of the entire
American basketball machine and really tell the truth about what
makes this game go round. And so I think on
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the other side, what I really am so proud that
we were able to deliver is like this story for
today's end gay culture. So definitely get into that. But
there's a lot of angle. So I want to I
want to, I want to go where you guys think
it's the most interesting.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Mike, you know, first of all, I see you graduated
from University of Michigan undergrad usc grad school, so did
I for both, So I think we're in good hands here.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Christmas the Sister went there too, not my sister. My
daughter graduated in twenty twenty. So yeah, the amazing and
go Blue up here.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Yeah, you know it.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
So, Mike, when you made this movie, I don't obviously
you want people to go watch it, But what I
should say? What was the What was one of the
things that you thought was true about the AAU culture
before making this movie?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
That is absolutely not.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
Wow, that's a great question. Well, you know, I you know,
I made the movie in the first place because I
fundamentally have something to say about it. You know, I've
spent my entire life traveling through the American basketball system
in one way or another the first twenty years of
my life, you know, playing AAU high school, in college.
But when I got out of USC Film school, you know,
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I was thinking about what I wanted my first film
to be. And you know, the reality is, I think
that we fall fans in general. You know, the NBA
is still something that sits at the center of whatever
remains of like monoculture, right, like your grandma knows whose
staff is, my mom knows who Lebron is.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
But the truth is that.
Speaker 9 (24:54):
Everything that we see about today's modern NBA is informed
and revealed by the incentive that are established on the
grassroots level. So to answer your question, you know, whether
that's player empowerment, whether that's the sort of glorification of
the individual and this beautiful team game that we have,
whether it's that you know, this is a business mentality,
(25:15):
Like all of that ethos really gets established on the
grassroots level and trickles up. You know, that's one of
the core theses of our film.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
So like, I can't say.
Speaker 9 (25:26):
That I was, like, I mean, I went in knowing,
you know, being pretty fluent in what makes this this
you know, what drives the engine. But there were some
things about about Will and weren't willing to talk about
that we're surprising to me, which we can maybe get into.
But you know, guys, at the at the end of
the day, like we we shot this film over an
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eleven year period of time, which is one of the roofs. Yeah,
so we were we started shooting in twenty twelve and
we we wrapped it up in twenty twenty three, so
we cover eleven years in this movie, and those eleven
years just in my opinion, happened to be the most
transformational stretch of time in the you know, in the
history of this of this domain.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So are there guys that are in the NBA now,
I imagine there are that we're playing au ball when you
were filming.
Speaker 9 (26:17):
Some of this, Oh yeah, for sure. Well, so we
actually you know, one of the benefits of having that
kind of access and covering the breath of time that
we do is we were actually able to cover generations
of the comtent Magic program. So you know, going back
to Gave York, all the way up to or even
like Jared Bayless is in the film, but like even
up to like the modern day, like when they've really
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become the true cream of the crop with Evan Mobley,
on Yaka kong Wu, Johnny Juzang, Daleen Terry Jalen Clark.
I mean, like they're the team that won the twenty
eighteen national title, literally five NBA players starting for them,
and then all the way up to even now Koop
who's like the number two, the number two recruit and
(26:59):
the twenty twenty five class. So we've really seen generations
of their program turn over. And even more than that,
they're CEO Atobe. You know, I have just a mentrospect
for you know, his place in standing in the game,
and I always described Tope as like one of the
more powerful people in the basketball ecosystem that most people
haven't heard of.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Let me ask you this because we Martin and I
were talking about it yesterday. You know, the last six
MVPs have been international players in the NBA.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Yeah, you know, four of.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
The top five players on the first team all NBA
were international. Would have probably been five had joelnb not
gotten hurt. And obviously we're not dominating international competition in
the FOBA and the Olympics like we used to. And
a lot of people when you talk to them about
why are the best players you know in the world
(27:51):
right now the absolute best from international and not American
right now? And I've said it myself. I'm not going
to sit here in front and we've blamed AAU. So
do you think that is wrong or do you think
there is some some of the blame does need to
go on the AAU system or simply we're not producing
(28:15):
the left the best players in the world anymore, at
least that's.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
A hot field for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Well.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
No, I think it's a very valid point, and I
think the results speak for themselves to your point about
you know, the MVP, the all NBA teams, and just
even the style of play. And I think it's fair.
I mean, I think it has to be where this
conversation starts, right, And I think my highest hope for
this film is that it really initiates a meaningful, meaningful conversation,
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a meaningful, honest and intentional conversation about how we want
to design the game, because I think that there's this
like inertia and momentum around the way we do things
where it's like, well, because it's because it is this way,
that's how it's supposed to be. But I think, you know,
in terms of why that why AAU is the sort
(29:03):
of incubative space for whatever the product is that's getting
spat out on the other end, you know, again going
to the you know, AAU philosophy trickling up. You know,
one of the experts in the film talked about this,
and we talked to executives, we talk to agents, we
talk to players, journalists, But just think about it, guys,
AU players carry with them, or any basketball player for
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that matter, they carry with them what they've spent the
most time doing. So if AAU basketball is the system
that we use to filter out the best players in
this country. And these dudes are basically spending from age
I don't know, eight nine, ten all the way through seventeen,
eighteen nineteen, and then they take one year of a
(29:46):
sabbatical or an apprenticeship at a one and done spot,
or they go to Australia or the G League or whatever.
You know, there are a lot more options now, quite obviously,
but like that ten years take sin that philosophy about
like how the game should be played, what these guys
are in it for. And I think that, you know, yes,
(30:08):
if we're going to talk about you know, this is
just on the player development side, forget what's you know,
and I think our film even confronts a deeper question
than than that, which is more around like the soul
of the game even right, But if we're going to
talk about just strictly basketball products, yeah, I mean, this
is this the arena that these guys spend all their
(30:29):
time in. So of course, the habits, the approach, the mentality.
Speaker 12 (30:32):
Et cetera.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
I mean, it's it's pretty baked in. So if we're
going to reimagine it, that's where it has to start.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Now.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I was on the A I played AU not at
the level of the Compton Magic, but it was like
twenty years ago. At this point, you've been making this
movie for the last eleven What changed the most from
year one to year eleven in AAU basketball?
Speaker 6 (30:50):
If it's not giving away part of I mean, you
know key part of that.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
No, No, well it's funny.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
We got about a minute for your answer, Mike Man,
we can.
Speaker 12 (30:58):
Tie it up.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
You know, I'll say this. When we started making the film,
a lot of the things that are now legal were illegal.
But what I will say is that like only optimized
for one thing. I'm a big believer in the idea
that there can only be one main thing. And you know,
this space is like built on what I like to
(31:18):
call juice proximity, and it's this relationship building space where
everyone's trying to attach themselves to the talent. And you know,
the incentives are such that the players are optimizing for
visibility and il deals, social media following. You know, like
there's a lot you know, brand building, Like there's a
lot of things that are not the main thing, right
(31:39):
that they are dragged into focusing on. And I think
that the basketball and quite frankly, they're human development also
suffers as a consequence of that too. So again, you know,
I know we got a rapid guize, but I'll just
simply say we designed this movie to be like a
navigational blueprint because there are hundreds of thousands of families
that turn through this system every year, and most of
them don't have a clue, and I think film offers,
(32:00):
you know, the value prop for this movie is is
that navigational blueprint, And I hope everybody does and check
it out Spoils, the spoilsmovie, dot Com, Jolt, dot film.
But yeah, man, you guys, there's never been a movie
like ours, So I really highly encourage you guys to
go check out The Spoils Now we will.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Like I said from the trailer, it looks terrific, so definitely.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Obviously you guys out there listening are sports fans, You've
got to check out this movie. Mike, thanks for joining us, man,
We appreciate it. Go Blue fight on all right, man, peace,
all right. This trash Talking Tuesday eight seven, seven ninety
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Com eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. It's time
for trash Talking Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
All right, let's go.
Speaker 13 (33:26):
To trash Talking Tuesday. It's your teeth, Reggie. I don't
know whether to smile at you.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Kick a field goal man, rookie mistake.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I'm my fault, Chris, hand up my bed. I got nothing.
I'm owning up to it.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I gotta own that one. You just gotta own it.
N just rookie mistake. That's all you know most of
the time. Later after this, you know what I'm saying
all timely on the drop. So now can we is
it safe to go to Gary who you're trashing? All right,
Gary Houston, you're up pal.
Speaker 14 (34:07):
Tom Habinson's totally really attempts to credit Durdans vpoy. Most
of the article is fighting sources of other stack keepers
of different teams in different decades. He's using a six
game video sample as representative of the whole season. He
doesn't take an account that all of George's number better
home because he got planning rest at home and little
rest on the road. The charge that said Jordan stocks
discrepancy at home versus road is unusually high. It's comparing
to uneven samples because mainly big man and he earned
(34:28):
two guards or monks Robertson who got a lot of
fields but not a lot of blocks. Well, Jordan got
a lot of fields and blocks, so of course to
jacks up Jordan's discrepancy. It is quite literally one of
the worst piece of writing that I've ever had the
misfortun of reading.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Wow, ever had the misfortune of reading? You know what,
Let's go hit thousand words. He that has a lot
of reading. If you didn't like it, a lot of misfortune,
Let's keep it on Abergel for a second. Let's go
to Aniston Corona what do you want to trash Tom Haberstrow.
Speaker 10 (34:57):
For everything that guy just said is absolutely accurate. And
you know what his whole piece.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
Is about, oh Lebron, Oh Lebron's.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
Chasing a ghosts. No, you know what the difference is
between us and the people who know Michael Jordan's better
than Lebron James is the Lebron James fans always points
to look at the numbers, look at the numbers, but
the eye test matters. Bob Bryan even said he didn't
look at stats. He saw it with his eyes that
Jordan was the best defender in the league and in
the year prior to that he had three times as
(35:28):
many steals as Michael Cooper and three times as many
blocks I think, and he still didn't get the Defensive
Player of the Year award.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
It's not about stats.
Speaker 10 (35:36):
Numbers lie, sometimes numbers don't lie. Sometimes SATs too. But
it's not about the stats. It's about the eye test.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And the Jordan.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
The Jordan defenders are out, I mean struck a nerve Haberstrode, No, man,
I know, Brian, then tennessee who you trashing?
Speaker 12 (35:54):
Well ten months ago, at the start of the season,
I crashed all seven Canadian and high hockey teams, and
I'm going to track all seven again, but I'll give
Edmonton a little slide. So bonjer Chris the avenue, Martin
a bit of French for you.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, I'm creole, so I got some French in me.
Martin might be too.
Speaker 12 (36:21):
Yeah, sure you understood what I said. I wasn't farn
that you like. You guys accused me of.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
No I wish I did uh speak creole. I don't
do you speak any creole Martin?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
No, No, I just recently mastered the English language.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Met in New Jersey. So you you got a ways
to go.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Whatever what you got.
Speaker 11 (36:45):
Mitchy, you guys do well, I would say in USC,
I guess you got playing on link rally, losing two
big defense linemen, four five stars and plus I'm starts
get the words the quarterback Nelson into that's that's that's state,
uh somewhere more questions or experience his shriff in the
(37:10):
big tank and okay.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Wow, all right he sounded like you're feeling that. Martin.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
He's angry about it.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Chris, I want to trash uh the Chicago Bulls. I mean,
I'm sorry the oak Yeah, the Chicago Bulls. I'm going
to trash the Chicago Bulls for turning down multiple operas
for Alex Caruso to get Josh Giddy and not a
single one of the picks that Oklahoma City has attached
to it. A straight one for one player trade for
(37:39):
me to a guy who is not nearly as good
as Caruso and doesn't fit on their roster.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
One bit. I'm trashing the Chicago Bulls in their front office.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Look, I actually like Giddy as the player. I think
he's pretty good. He obviously didn't play well in the
playoffs this year. They don't really need him in Okay.
See you know, and I think career so will be
a great fit because he's a heck of a defender them. Yeah,
it was absolutely for them. He fits perfectly into that culture.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Get he's good. But I agree like they should have
got some picks.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I mean, Oklahoma is just overflowing with picks and so
they definitely should have got some of them.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Rob G, who you trash?
Speaker 5 (38:20):
I'm trashing Texas A and M former head baseball coach.
What's his name here? I know Schlashnagel is his last name.
Jeff Jeff Schloshnagel okay, because he got upset with the
reporter who asked him the other day, actually yesterday, if
he's gonna take the Texas baseball job, and he said
that it's selfish of you to ask me that question.
I think the job at A and m to never
have to take another job again. And then not even
(38:42):
twenty four hours, he's reportedly the new head coach at
University of Texas.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
That's terrible that you go, right, you gonna rip this dude.
He's doing his job.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
If you if he wanted to say, look, no comment,
I'm not commenting on rumors, that's right. That's how you
handle it. You don't have to rip the dude, make
him look bad in front of people, you know, question
his integrity, all that your selfish, right, and then you
do it. Shame on him. What's his last name? Snot?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
What is not?
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Whatever,
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Speaker 1 (00:55):
Should be, and of course, the Eye Couple, even with
Martin Weiss sitting in for Rob Parker, is the way
sports talk radio should be.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It is a trash talking.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Tuesday, trash talking right there.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
That no wow, But you.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Know what, I just got called up a out the
bullpen again tomorrow, Chris, so I'll be with you.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Then I heard he from I'm not even gonna make
light of this, but had somebody had to take care
of with his family. So he was set to join us,
but instead we will have Martin Weiss in.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So I'm looking forward to that. But we got two
hours left tonight, so let's keep this thing popping.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
But yeah, end of the hour, about thirty minutes or
so thirty five minutes. You start calling in at eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine to weigh in on
who you want to trash. You got thirty to forty
seconds to do, so Martin, anybody you're trashing, I might.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Have to take trash Rock Parker for taking as much
time off, but nah, I won't.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He's off all week. Sean King will be in on
Thursday and Fridays.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Can I trash Martin Weiss for making that comment about
Rob Balker like he's not benefiting from this right now?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Right? You should feeling me, dog.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You should be hoping he stays away another week and
then I choose you to.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Fill his shoes.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
I would say this.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
You know there will be baseball games played, so the
chances that Rob here is fifty to fifty, because if
he's not here, he's definitely got Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He's traveling to some games.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
All right, well, this is interesting Martin Weiss's next topic,
and we're gonna take some time with it. Some of
you may know, some of you may not, But a
woman named Haleema Nash claims that when she was once
on the campus of Duke University that JJ Reddick called
(02:52):
her the N word.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Here's what she tweeted this morning.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I've only been called the IN word to my face
by a white man once in my life, and it
was on the campus of Duke University while I was
doing work with the basketball team. And today he was
named the new head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What a world.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
She obviously is talking about JJ Reddick and JJ Reddick's camp.
Martin just within the last hour told TMZ dot com
that there is no truth to her story. The headline reads,
JJ Redick denies calling woman inWORD. Now TMZ reached out
(03:45):
to JJ's camp and here's what they were told. So
direct quote in the story, it reads, no, it never happened.
That's it. It was shortened the way TMZ described that.
They said, we reached out to Reddick's camp for a
response to the claim and they completely shut it down.
(04:09):
Now I did a little digging. I did not talk
to this woman, but I did do some digging. I was,
as Rob g knows, I was trying to get her
on the show because I do want to kind of,
you know, this is obviously a huge claim, and want
to get her on the show to talk about it,
verify if it's true and her account wasn't hacked, and
(04:29):
things like that. From what I understand, she does not
want to do any media. We'll see if she keeps
that that going. But and when what I understand Martin,
she was surprised at how this thing kind of snowball.
And the reason we didn't even lead the show with
it was because we just wanted to kind of make
(04:51):
sure this thing, you know, that was really accurate.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Before we dealt with it.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
But now JJ re camp answers it and they deny it.
And here's what I'll say to that, Martin. I don't
know if Haleema Nash will come out and speak to it, but.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
What I will say.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Is that JJ Reddick better not be lying, or whoever
spoke for him better not be lying. Yeah, because if you,
I mean, it'd be bad enough if you did it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
But you can you know it.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Was if it had happened, I will say that because
he's denied it, it would have been twenty years ago
something like that. You could, you know, I would you
could you know, maybe survive that, right, right, that was
so long ago. Obviously he's developed good relationships with African
Americans now.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
The one thing is not like he.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Didn't know any African Americans that do, not like he
hadn't been playing with black players much of his life,
you know, as a top great high school and college player.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
But I agree with you that you.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Know, it's twenty years ago. If it wasn't a pattern
in something, you you know, your behavior at Duke and
after that would have to line up with somebody that
is not racist, and somebody who was remorseful if indeed
they did that, and you could perhaps survive it. The
one thing that would possibly nail him if he had
(06:23):
done it and apologize for it, Martin, would be if
players just weren't feeling you because of it, you know,
and obviously you need black players, and if they weren't
feeling you, how they reacted to you would be an
issue or could be an issue. But if if it
comes out and I you know, I mean, look, you
(06:45):
got two people making claims.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I don't know who's right or who's telling the truth,
but I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Just saying it better not JJ better.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Not be lying because if.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It comes out like I said, it would have been
bad enough, but then.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You didn't deny it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
That that very well might cost him his job if
it comes out that this was actually true. So I
don't know if they were one on one, if it
was people or whatever. If indeed, again he says it
didn't happen, or his people say it didn't happen, So
we will see, but he better not be lying. That's
my main thing. He better not be lying. And I
(07:25):
think you're the point you met earlier is why we
didn't leave.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
The show with it without him responding, because I mean,
I had seen this tweet going around, people have sent
it to my phone, and I was like, look, we'll
find out sooner or later, because the Internet never forgets, right.
The Internet last forever, especially when you look at some
of these, you know, repositories and blogger sites and especially
(07:49):
early internet.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Right, So.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
If in fact it had happened, right, And.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I'm not saying, I'm not denying, I'm not taking either
side of it, I'm just laying it out. If it
did happen and he had said some level of contrition
and then said, well, look show me the other instance
in life in which this occurred, then we could have,
I think a different level of conversation. I think to
you would out there with a lot of it, a
lot of contingencies about players and how they feel and
(08:17):
so on, and how the general consensus feels about it
after the fact.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
If but I just maybe I'm maybe I'm naive, Maybe I'm.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Just I just have trouble believing that one per Like
if you're the type of person that will call somebody
the end word, I have trouble believing that it's all
you would only do it one time. I feel like
that's one of those damn breakings where it would just
continually happen, and maybe not happen all the time, but
happen enough to where we will hear somebody else come
(08:48):
out from this, right, somebody else come out and say, oh,
this also happened to me. This all like very much
like when we hear one allegation of sexual will assault
by somebody, and then all of a sudden we hear
multiple and then boom, boom, bo boom, and then the
next day, and then the next day and then the
next day, and now it's like, all right, well, hey,
there's a lot of smoke around this.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Maybe fire here.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Right right, No, look, you're right, and this is interesting.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well and also I say, when they acknowledged that it
never happened, I think, you know, if in fact it
never did, like I probably would have just left this
you saying.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Well that it would have been and we don't know, Martin,
would media have jumped on this because I was surprised
it wasn't trending like you said. I received you know,
people send it to me as well, and it wasn't
trending somewhat surprisingly because it got and I'm about to
look up the number now, rob g you may have
(09:47):
it that it got something like ten million when the
TMZ story came out, it was ten million views. It's
probably more than that now, Robbie, see if you can
get the number on how many views this is. But yeah,
you're I don't know. It may have gotten so big.
(10:09):
It's twelve million views, so it may have gotten so
big that they would have had to respond to it.
But you you know, it's interesting. Would would the route
of just denying it not then like it wasn't there
have you know?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Worked? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I mean I think somebody somewhere next time he was
in front of a microphone. I would hope that somebody
would have asked him JJ, there was an allegation on Twitter.
You're not accusing him of it. Their allegation on Twitter
that you call this woman the N word?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Is it true?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And give him an opportunity to respond?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, yeah, somebody would have asked him that.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I'm sure, but they, you know, they responded to it,
and like, I mean, that's all I can say. Mark, Now,
what do you think? Do you agree with me if
he's lying? I mean, it's bad enough if he did it.
But if he's lying, do you think he can survive that?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
No? I probably not.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
No, I don't think he should can survive it.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I think that he would have had to if, in fact,
again this happened, he would have had to have been
forthcoming in the moment as soon as this kind of
came out, like right now, he would have had to
have been forthcoming and then speak to the twenty odd
years of his life from that moment to now and
show you know, look at my track record. This this
was something that happened to one off.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
It was a mistake.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
It was this was that I'm terribly sorry for all
the people I offended, so on and so forth. But
now you got people screenshot and now they're old blogs
like I don't think that bost it. But dot com
necessarily has the same journalistic standards as CNN, you know.
But there's headlines here leaked email shows white NBA baller
(11:55):
JJ Reddick called ex groupie girlfriend a dirty N word
and stupid word, and that was public.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Now where's that?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I know it's in bossip, but where was that? Just
where was the source of that information?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
So the source of it was they're saying, and again
this article was published February eleventh, twenty fourteen, so over
ten years ago. Okay, But they are saying, we first
reported a legal document that was drawn up in two
thousand and seven by lawyers representing NBA player JJ Redick
and his then pregnant blue model group e Vanessa Lopez.
(12:28):
So they obviously are taking some editorial uh you know,
leeway here, but it's saying it's reported from a legal
document that was drawn up in two thousand and seven
and so. But my point to that is we will
I think we will get through the bottom of this.
Or if it really had, like if there was a
history of this, well, no by this time tomorrow, because
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the Internet never sleeps.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, you're right about that. We're gonna throw this out
to you guys again. We're not We're not saying JJ's line.
We're not saying Helima's line.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
We don't know. You got two people.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's a he said, she said thing in the very
definition of that term. One of them is lying, And
like I said, if it's JJ Reddick, it's not gonna
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Speaker 1 (13:27):
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calling her the N word when he was a student
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We usually don't take calls on the second hour of
a trash Talking Tuesday, but we thought you guys might
want to weigh in on this JJ Reddick situation with
the N word. Woman accuses him of calling her that
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back at Duke twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Roughly, he denies it firmly. Your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Let's go to Thomas in the Bay Area. You're on
the Eye Couple on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
What's up, Dolls? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 9 (15:16):
I remember JJ and Duke twenty years ago. I remember
him getting drafted to Orlando. He's made over one hundred
million dollars in his career. He was also on that
Clippers team when the Donald Sterling the.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Bible broke out.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
I mean, why didn't that allegation come.
Speaker 10 (15:32):
Out then, when his owner of that team.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
Was being accused and was found guilty of, you.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Know, all of that misconduct.
Speaker 10 (15:39):
Why now that he's going to be the head.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
Coach of the Lakers, that we hear this story.
Speaker 10 (15:43):
It doesn't something seem.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's a great that that is something. And like I said,
I tried to get the young lady, you know, I
didn't talk to her, but tried to get her on
the phone through some different avenues. And that's what would
have been one of the first questions, like why now
if it happened, why now he played in the NBA
for fifteen years, and if if you know, it was
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something to do with the Lakers, I mean you would
think maybe she puts that out there when his name
first circulates as a candidate, you know, if it was
more about the Lakers and that being her team.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But you know, but hey, it doesn't mean it's not true.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
So well, and also too, it doesn't mean that it's
the first time that she's come out with it. This
is the first time that we have caught it right.
This is like you said, this wasn't going by I
read it right.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
So this is it.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
May she may have made these claims in the past
and we just missed it as a society.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Let's go to Kevin and Culver. Shitty. You're on the
eye couple on Fox Sports Radio. God is good all
the time, all the time.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
Man, Yo, thank you, thank you, beg you yo.
Speaker 9 (16:50):
This is bull Mallarkey.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
JJ Reddick has been front and center on the NBA
Finals broadcast. He's been an outspoken figure on ESPN talking
about race, culture, racial issues. People have like talked smacked
about him doing that, s he speaks out too much.
He's doing a podcast with the most popular best player
in the world, Lebron James. He was on the Clippers
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team with Donald Stone. He was the white player that
kept the locker room together when they didn't want to
play and do certain things.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
He was he was.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
They magnified him for that he was. He was looking
at as a locker room mill for what he did
bringing the team together. So this makes no sense to me.
Another thing to you. I'll let you guys in on
a little secret. When these NBA teams hired these coaches,
they bet they go all the way back to AAU
they would have found this. When he was at Duke
playing for coach k with Jay Williams. You think nobody
would have checked him and this one came out. This
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is a bull story. And of all people, this isn't
Wyley Cooper and a concert on a hot mic being
angry and forceful using the D word on Tate when
he actually played after that. This is an allegation from
JJ Reddick, one of the most outspoken racial players in league,
figure in the league on racial issues. It makes no
sense to me, and I'll put my name to it.
(18:04):
I think JJ Reddick is completely innocent on this and
it's not JJ Reddick, And I hope he keeps coaching
Lakers because his character is great character and I'll stand
by that with all the players who speak for him,
I'm believing JJ Reddick. I'm not even putting any thoughts
of this. This thing is a bull story to be
a story.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Now, Chris, let me ask you, did you consider, prior
to the last twenty minutes, did you consider JJ Reddick
as one of the more outspoken people when it comes
to racial issues of sports, Because no, I never, you know,
I feel like you have a pretty close ear to
these type of things, and I've never I wouldn't have this.
I would have described him as neutral at best, right,
(18:42):
like I have to you know, prior I would And
obviously I covered.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
JJ when he was playing.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I don't know him well, interacted with him a little bit,
and he was fine.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
You know, I liked him to the degree that I
talked with him.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
But and my assumption, my assumption, obviously you could be
you know, still be racist kind of in the closet
if you play in the NBA, right, guy, But you're growing,
if you're playing ball at the highest level as a
young player, you're playing with black players and you're getting
to know him and Martin no surprise probably, But most
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of the white guys in the league that I covered,
they were all in the hip hop, you know, they
had kind of adopted some forms of black popular culture,
just because that's who they were around when they played
AU and all that stuff. And obviously JJ played in
the NBA for a long time, so you would think, man,
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he ain't.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
He can't be racist like that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But you know, stranger things have happened, and you know,
like I said, I just I hope he's not lying
because I hope that a guy that was around black
folks like that even at Duke wasn't feeling that way
and saying stuff like that. And also I just hope
it's not true period, And but for him it better.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Not be true well, because I don't think he survived
if I was thinking about this just in the break
the second ago, JJ Reddick, like his basketball life has
been very, very long. When you consider like where he
came on the scene, it was almost like.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
The Kate with the attention that's paid to Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
He was phenomenal du right, but even his freshman his
freshman year, it's kind of like the attention attention that's
paid to Caitlin Clark now, where everything he did at
Duke was a news story, right, and a lot of
people hated him for that, right, A lot of people
hated it.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Oh, yeah, not what the Duke, you know, he was
exactly he was in the Duke.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Bobby Hurley, that.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Was the viewpoint. Yeah, Christian Layton or Danny Ferry.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah, all those guys and so like when I when
you hear it, it's kind of like, oh, well, you know,
could have happened.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
But I'm not saying it did.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
But it's just like when you consider those factors twenty
some years ago, Yeah, I feel like, you know, it
could have been something that could have happened.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
All right, it's the Yeah couple, Chris and Martin. We
got Mike Nicole who's a writer and director of a movie.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Martin.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I can't wait to see it. It's not out yet,
but I do have a copy. I'm gonna check it out.
It's called The Spoils and it is about AAU culture.
It focuses on the team in comp there was it
the Compton Magic focuses on them. That's like the best
AAU team in the country. And it looks like a
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fantastic movie. And we're gonna he's a director. He's gonna
join us at in a few minutes befirst.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Chris Brussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
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Speaker 1 (21:43):
That's a right man. The low quation is Brian Finley.
We're live from the tiereg dot com studios. Our next
guest is the director of the new up and upcoming film.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
It's not quite out yet.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It's called The Spoils about AAU basketball in their premiere program,
The Compton Magic.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I can't wait to see it. Mike Nickel, Mike, welcome
to the.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
Odd Couple, gentlemen. Thank you for having me. It's it's
a pleasure to be here and chop it up with
you guys.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
No, man, it's great to have you.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And I haven't As I said, I haven't seen the
movie yet, but I have seen the trailer and it
looks fantastic.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
So just tell us what it's about, give us a
little detail.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
Well, I appreciate that, and just real quick, I do
want to let you guys know that the film actually
is out. Okay, yeah, we actually know.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
It's all good.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
It's all good. We had our New York premiere last night.
It was amazing, packed house, and there's just been like
a ton of great now it's just been like received
so well. So I encourage everybody to go check out
the film The Spoils. It's on Joel tot Film or
you can go to the spoilsmovie dot com and dive
deeper there. But check Chris, you know, man, like I'm
here to talk about the American basketball system. You know,
(22:54):
on its face, our film is grounded in the aau
graduroots level and we have pretty amazing access, I would
say unprecedented access. But really what I wanted to do
was create like this kaleidoscopic system portrait of the entire
American basketball machine and really tell the truth about what
makes this game go round. And so I think on
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the other side, what I really am so proud that
we were able to deliver is like this story for
today's end gay culture. So definitely get into that. But
there's a lot of angle. So I want to I
want to, I want to go where you guys think
it's the most interesting.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Mike, you know, first of all, I see you graduated
from University of Michigan undergrad usc grad school, so did
I for both, So I think we're in good hands here.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Christmas the Sister went there too, not my sister. My
daughter graduated in twenty twenty. So yeah, the amazing and
go Blue up here.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Yeah, you know it.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
So, Mike, when you made this movie, I don't obviously
you want people to go watch it, But what I
should say? What was the What was one of the
things that you thought was true about the AAU culture
before making this movie?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
That is absolutely not.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
Wow, that's a great question. Well, you know, I you know,
I made the movie in the first place because I
fundamentally have something to say about it. You know, I've
spent my entire life traveling through the American basketball system
in one way or another the first twenty years of
my life, you know, playing AAU high school, in college.
But when I got out of USC Film school, you know,
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I was thinking about what I wanted my first film
to be. And you know, the reality is, I think
that we fall fans in general. You know, the NBA
is still something that sits at the center of whatever
remains of like monoculture, right, like your grandma knows whose
staff is, my mom knows who Lebron is.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
But the truth is that.
Speaker 9 (24:54):
Everything that we see about today's modern NBA is informed
and revealed by the incentive that are established on the
grassroots level. So to answer your question, you know, whether
that's player empowerment, whether that's the sort of glorification of
the individual and this beautiful team game that we have,
whether it's that you know, this is a business mentality,
(25:15):
Like all of that ethos really gets established on the
grassroots level and trickles up. You know, that's one of
the core theses of our film.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
So like, I can't say.
Speaker 9 (25:26):
That I was, like, I mean, I went in knowing,
you know, being pretty fluent in what makes this this
you know, what drives the engine. But there were some
things about about Will and weren't willing to talk about
that we're surprising to me, which we can maybe get into.
But you know, guys, at the at the end of
the day, like we we shot this film over an
(25:48):
eleven year period of time, which is one of the roofs. Yeah,
so we were we started shooting in twenty twelve and
we we wrapped it up in twenty twenty three, so
we cover eleven years in this movie, and those eleven
years just in my opinion, happened to be the most
transformational stretch of time in the you know, in the
history of this of this domain.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So are there guys that are in the NBA now,
I imagine there are that we're playing au ball when you
were filming.
Speaker 9 (26:17):
Some of this, Oh yeah, for sure. Well, so we
actually you know, one of the benefits of having that
kind of access and covering the breath of time that
we do is we were actually able to cover generations
of the comtent Magic program. So you know, going back
to Gave York, all the way up to or even
like Jared Bayless is in the film, but like even
up to like the modern day, like when they've really
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become the true cream of the crop with Evan Mobley,
on Yaka kong Wu, Johnny Juzang, Daleen Terry Jalen Clark.
I mean, like they're the team that won the twenty
eighteen national title, literally five NBA players starting for them,
and then all the way up to even now Koop
who's like the number two, the number two recruit and
(26:59):
the twenty twenty five class. So we've really seen generations
of their program turn over. And even more than that,
they're CEO Atobe. You know, I have just a mentrospect
for you know, his place in standing in the game,
and I always described Tope as like one of the
more powerful people in the basketball ecosystem that most people
haven't heard of.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Let me ask you this because we Martin and I
were talking about it yesterday. You know, the last six
MVPs have been international players in the NBA.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Yeah, you know, four of.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
The top five players on the first team all NBA
were international. Would have probably been five had joelnb not
gotten hurt. And obviously we're not dominating international competition in
the FOBA and the Olympics like we used to. And
a lot of people when you talk to them about
why are the best players you know in the world
(27:51):
right now the absolute best from international and not American
right now? And I've said it myself. I'm not going
to sit here in front and we've blamed AAU. So
do you think that is wrong or do you think
there is some some of the blame does need to
go on the AAU system or simply we're not producing
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the left the best players in the world anymore, at
least that's.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
A hot field for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Well.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
No, I think it's a very valid point, and I
think the results speak for themselves to your point about
you know, the MVP, the all NBA teams, and just
even the style of play. And I think it's fair.
I mean, I think it has to be where this
conversation starts, right, And I think my highest hope for
this film is that it really initiates a meaningful, meaningful conversation,
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a meaningful, honest and intentional conversation about how we want
to design the game, because I think that there's this
like inertia and momentum around the way we do things
where it's like, well, because it's because it is this way,
that's how it's supposed to be. But I think, you know,
in terms of why that why AAU is the sort
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of incubative space for whatever the product is that's getting
spat out on the other end, you know, again going
to the you know, AAU philosophy trickling up. You know,
one of the experts in the film talked about this,
and we talked to executives, we talk to agents, we
talk to players, journalists, But just think about it, guys,
AU players carry with them, or any basketball player for
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that matter, they carry with them what they've spent the
most time doing. So if AAU basketball is the system
that we use to filter out the best players in
this country. And these dudes are basically spending from age
I don't know, eight nine, ten all the way through seventeen,
eighteen nineteen, and then they take one year of a
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sabbatical or an apprenticeship at a one and done spot,
or they go to Australia or the G League or whatever.
You know, there are a lot more options now, quite obviously,
but like that ten years take sin that philosophy about
like how the game should be played, what these guys
are in it for. And I think that, you know, yes,
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if we're going to talk about you know, this is
just on the player development side, forget what's you know,
and I think our film even confronts a deeper question
than than that, which is more around like the soul
of the game even right, But if we're going to
talk about just strictly basketball products, yeah, I mean, this
is this the arena that these guys spend all their
(30:29):
time in. So of course, the habits, the approach, the mentality.
Speaker 12 (30:32):
Et cetera.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
I mean, it's it's pretty baked in. So if we're
going to reimagine it, that's where it has to start.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Now.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I was on the A I played AU not at
the level of the Compton Magic, but it was like
twenty years ago. At this point, you've been making this
movie for the last eleven What changed the most from
year one to year eleven in AAU basketball?
Speaker 6 (30:50):
If it's not giving away part of I mean, you
know key part of that.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
No, No, well it's funny.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
We got about a minute for your answer, Mike Man,
we can.
Speaker 12 (30:58):
Tie it up.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
You know, I'll say this. When we started making the film,
a lot of the things that are now legal were illegal.
But what I will say is that like only optimized
for one thing. I'm a big believer in the idea
that there can only be one main thing. And you know,
this space is like built on what I like to
(31:18):
call juice proximity, and it's this relationship building space where
everyone's trying to attach themselves to the talent. And you know,
the incentives are such that the players are optimizing for
visibility and il deals, social media following. You know, like
there's a lot you know, brand building, Like there's a
lot of things that are not the main thing, right
(31:39):
that they are dragged into focusing on. And I think
that the basketball and quite frankly, they're human development also
suffers as a consequence of that too. So again, you know,
I know we got a rapid guize, but I'll just
simply say we designed this movie to be like a
navigational blueprint because there are hundreds of thousands of families
that turn through this system every year, and most of
them don't have a clue, and I think film offers,
(32:00):
you know, the value prop for this movie is is
that navigational blueprint, And I hope everybody does and check
it out Spoils, the spoilsmovie, dot Com, Jolt, dot film.
But yeah, man, you guys, there's never been a movie
like ours, So I really highly encourage you guys to
go check out The Spoils Now we will.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Like I said from the trailer, it looks terrific, so definitely.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Obviously you guys out there listening are sports fans, You've
got to check out this movie. Mike, thanks for joining us, man,
We appreciate it. Go Blue fight on all right, man, peace,
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Speaker 6 (33:25):
All right, let's go.
Speaker 13 (33:26):
To trash Talking Tuesday. It's your teeth, Reggie. I don't
know whether to smile at you.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Kick a field goal man, rookie mistake.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I'm my fault, Chris, hand up my bed. I got nothing.
I'm owning up to it.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I gotta own that one. You just gotta own it.
N just rookie mistake. That's all you know most of
the time. Later after this, you know what I'm saying
all timely on the drop. So now can we is
it safe to go to Gary who you're trashing? All right,
Gary Houston, you're up pal.
Speaker 14 (34:07):
Tom Habinson's totally really attempts to credit Durdans vpoy. Most
of the article is fighting sources of other stack keepers
of different teams in different decades. He's using a six
game video sample as representative of the whole season. He
doesn't take an account that all of George's number better
home because he got planning rest at home and little
rest on the road. The charge that said Jordan stocks
discrepancy at home versus road is unusually high. It's comparing
to uneven samples because mainly big man and he earned
(34:28):
two guards or monks Robertson who got a lot of
fields but not a lot of blocks. Well, Jordan got
a lot of fields and blocks, so of course to
jacks up Jordan's discrepancy. It is quite literally one of
the worst piece of writing that I've ever had the
misfortun of reading.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Wow, ever had the misfortune of reading? You know what,
Let's go hit thousand words. He that has a lot
of reading. If you didn't like it, a lot of misfortune,
Let's keep it on Abergel for a second. Let's go
to Aniston Corona what do you want to trash Tom Haberstrow.
Speaker 10 (34:57):
For everything that guy just said is absolutely accurate. And
you know what his whole piece.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
Is about, oh Lebron, Oh Lebron's.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
Chasing a ghosts. No, you know what the difference is
between us and the people who know Michael Jordan's better
than Lebron James is the Lebron James fans always points
to look at the numbers, look at the numbers, but
the eye test matters. Bob Bryan even said he didn't
look at stats. He saw it with his eyes that
Jordan was the best defender in the league and in
the year prior to that he had three times as
(35:28):
many steals as Michael Cooper and three times as many
blocks I think, and he still didn't get the Defensive
Player of the Year award.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
It's not about stats.
Speaker 10 (35:36):
Numbers lie, sometimes numbers don't lie. Sometimes SATs too. But
it's not about the stats. It's about the eye test.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And the Jordan.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
The Jordan defenders are out, I mean struck a nerve Haberstrode, No, man,
I know, Brian, then tennessee who you trashing?
Speaker 12 (35:54):
Well ten months ago, at the start of the season,
I crashed all seven Canadian and high hockey teams, and
I'm going to track all seven again, but I'll give
Edmonton a little slide. So bonjer Chris the avenue, Martin
a bit of French for you.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, I'm creole, so I got some French in me.
Martin might be too.
Speaker 12 (36:21):
Yeah, sure you understood what I said. I wasn't farn
that you like. You guys accused me of.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
No I wish I did uh speak creole. I don't
do you speak any creole Martin?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
No, No, I just recently mastered the English language.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Met in New Jersey. So you you got a ways
to go.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Whatever what you got.
Speaker 11 (36:45):
Mitchy, you guys do well, I would say in USC,
I guess you got playing on link rally, losing two
big defense linemen, four five stars and plus I'm starts
get the words the quarterback Nelson into that's that's that's state,
uh somewhere more questions or experience his shriff in the
(37:10):
big tank and okay.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Wow, all right he sounded like you're feeling that. Martin.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
He's angry about it.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Chris, I want to trash uh the Chicago Bulls. I mean,
I'm sorry the oak Yeah, the Chicago Bulls. I'm going
to trash the Chicago Bulls for turning down multiple operas
for Alex Caruso to get Josh Giddy and not a
single one of the picks that Oklahoma City has attached
to it. A straight one for one player trade for
(37:39):
me to a guy who is not nearly as good
as Caruso and doesn't fit on their roster.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
One bit. I'm trashing the Chicago Bulls in their front office.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Look, I actually like Giddy as the player. I think
he's pretty good. He obviously didn't play well in the
playoffs this year. They don't really need him in Okay.
See you know, and I think career so will be
a great fit because he's a heck of a defender them. Yeah,
it was absolutely for them. He fits perfectly into that culture.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Get he's good. But I agree like they should have
got some picks.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I mean, Oklahoma is just overflowing with picks and so
they definitely should have got some of them.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Rob G, who you trash?
Speaker 5 (38:20):
I'm trashing Texas A and M former head baseball coach.
What's his name here? I know Schlashnagel is his last name.
Jeff Jeff Schloshnagel okay, because he got upset with the
reporter who asked him the other day, actually yesterday, if
he's gonna take the Texas baseball job, and he said
that it's selfish of you to ask me that question.
I think the job at A and m to never
have to take another job again. And then not even
(38:42):
twenty four hours, he's reportedly the new head coach at
University of Texas.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
That's terrible that you go, right, you gonna rip this dude.
He's doing his job.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
If you if he wanted to say, look, no comment,
I'm not commenting on rumors, that's right. That's how you
handle it. You don't have to rip the dude, make
him look bad in front of people, you know, question
his integrity, all that your selfish, right, and then you
do it. Shame on him. What's his last name? Snot?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
What is not?
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Whatever,
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