July 1, 2024 • 38 mins
Chris and Rob debate whether LeBron James should be ridiculed for pulling the strings to ensure that Bronny made the NBA and discuss how the Golden State Warriors plan to navigate the post-Klay Thompson era. Plus, FOX Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Medina swings by to discuss why Klay Thompson chose to sign with the Dallas Mavericks over the Los Angeles Lakers, how JJ Redick might try to navigate the Bronny situation, how Dalton Knecht fits into the Lakers’ plans moving forward and much more!
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We got our man, Mark Funky Cole Madina at the
bottom of the hour, and we'll talk some Lakers with him,
but we'll talk some Lakers with Rob.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Rob, of course, was out on vacation.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Last week when Bronnie James, the son of lebron James,
was drafted with the fifty fifth pick of the NBA
Drift by the Lakers, and he will join his dad.
Rob and I have said all along that Briannie is
going to be a Laker, and he is.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You haven't been able to share your thoughts on this show,
so go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Chris? I want to make this very clear. This is not.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Anything to do with Bronnie. It doesn't I get it.
It's his father trying to do rus ripe or help
his kid in any way. Can I don't have any kids.
I never played the professional sports. I get all that,
but I must admit I think this is the worst
decision that's had ever happened in professional sports, and I'm
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dead series.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
It's when I say that, the.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Worst by a team.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Just why you're all around everybody involved in this because
it changes what the essence of the game has always been,
which is about competition, and we talk about all the time,
right Mederic, Oh my god, mericocracy right?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Meritocracy. Meritocracy, I got it, Chris.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
This is what we've always talked about and the reason
why you have an NFL where you have essentially ninety
nine percent of the owners are white and yet the
league is seventy percent black. Meritocracy is what allowed this
to be the case. They didn't go out and just
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fill their teams with people who look like them because
they own the team and said, I don't care. I'm
gonna do what I want to do and no one
can tell me because I own the team. It was
about the best people went out there, played the game,
and the people who deserve to get jobs got jobs.
I heard a lot of people throw around nepotism, and
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there's plenty of nepotism, and I've been critical, yeah, I plenty,
and I've thrown out nepatist Chris.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
It's wrong.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
We've seen it, especially in the front office, but it
ain't right. But it ain't the same as what we've
seen here. As far as on the field. Someone would
have to show me on the field where some guy
got his son a spot on a team or some
owner put his nephew on out Just take the last
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spot on the roster. It doesn't matter. I want you
to be on the team because I own the team.
And that's the part. I think when Lebron looks at
his legacy, that he'll be leaving this sport in a
worse place than when he got here. And what I
mean is he's opened up a Pandora's box now to
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where I don't know how you tell people not to
do what he just did, right his kid, by all
of the scouts, not Rob Parker as a scout, all
the scouts smaller guard, Chris. He didn't have a great
year in college.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
All the stings he might have made it. He might
have been able to be on a team.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
As a non drafted player and worked his way through
and all that right could ev But this was like, no,
he's coming to the Lakers, get out of the way,
don't draft him. This is all about Lebron making this happen.
I remember when Tim Tebow went down to Jacksonville. People
were like, what to play a position he had never played.
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He was an older player. But Irban Meyer, oh that's
my next door neighbor. People weren't with it. People throw
out the Dallas Cowboys, Chris. It's filled with nepotism. He
has all of his kids in the front office. But
I could justify a family business where you're hiring people
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in your family more so than I can on a team.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Or on a become nepotism.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
No, and I'm not saying I'm against nepotism, but I'm
tar I'm against nepotism.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
What I'm saying is when you play on.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
The field that is supposed to be based on your merit,
your ability and not. And that's where someone would have
to show me where owners have done this in the past,
because I can't find it. I can't find where they
put somebody on a team because they own the team,
or they wanted to help out their kid. If if
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Tibo was essentially nepotism, No, but he didn't make the team,
but he got a tryout. But I'm talking about Andy
Weed's kids, Bill Belichick's kids. Did he put him on
a team or he goes, hey, you're gonna work your
way up there getting broken in half? I mean, they're
not even remotely like Roight. Here's where I mean I
disagree with you overall.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
And there are players, it's not just front office and
coaching staff where we've seen this. The nasais Ante Dekompo
think he's much of a player. Wait a minute, the
Dee the Bucks?
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Okay, but was he who was who drafted him?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I don't know who drafted him, but he got a
contract now with the Bucks because Giannis is on the Buck.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
No, but the Knicks drafted him. And let me say this, Chris,
I'm glad you brought that up. That came after Giannice's
first year, when he averaged six points and four rebounds,
So it wasn't as if he was a big star
and they knew it he was. Jannis would didn't even
blossom yet when the Knicks drafted his brother, so that
that's not where Gianni's on the team.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
No, but I'm talking about he was drafting. He was
drafted originally.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
By the Knicks after Giannis didn't have a big year,
so Janni's had no play. He couldn't tell the Knicks
to draft his brother. He averaged six points his rookie year.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It's possible that Brownie would have got drafted, because here's
the thing.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
You don't believe that.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I mean, I'm told four teams were interested.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I heard Tylu wanted him with the Clippers, Minnesota had interest,
Toronto had interests. Phoenix only wanted him for Lebron. But
you know Phoenix had interest. So I'm told that one
of those teams could have drafted. Why was Rich Paul
calling around if it was like, man, please, we ain't
think about no Brownie James. Why was Rich Paul calling in,
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texting team saying don't draft him?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
If there was no chance he was gonna get drafted.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
The difference here is when you talk about those situations.
If this was Bronnie James played at USC and somebody
wants to people take flyers Chris all the.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Time and the second round on people, how is this different?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I mean, I get it's different because his dad, But
I'm just saying Bronnie was the nineteenth ranked player Chris.
He didn't hit ken I finished, Okay, he was the
nineteenth ranked player in his senior class, you know, before
he had the cardiac arrest. And I do think the
cardiacer rest impacted this season with USC, which we know
wasn't good, but he was, like he wasn't he made
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Obviously McDonald's All American.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Some say that was because of lebron I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He was nineteenth ranked player in his class, so that's
close to McDonald's All American anyway, and they're different rankings.
So that's my point, Like he is not, like, like
you said, an owner putting their son on the team.
Most owner's sons probably weren't close to being Division one
basket Michael.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
The Hornets, he had two sons, could have put one
of them on.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, But I mean maybe they weren't close to as
good as the NBA, that he don't have to be.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It's arguable that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Briani was in NBA process because he went to the
No it was you.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You saw the reviews of him in Chicago.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Her scout who said that they didn't think that he
was in but player right.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But you also heard other ones saying he shot it, well,
he's more, he's a plus athlete. And Tom Haberstrow did
a story saying legacy players whose fathers played in the
league tend to over perform with.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Their draft status.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So like Jalen Brunson has obviously been better than his
draft status, and that goes for a lot of players,
And so there there were some neflis that that's what
happened with second round picks. Some people like him think
they're NBA players. Some people I just just saying it
ain't like Bronni was. And a lot of guys that
put up bad numbers got drafted, whether they put them
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up in Europe or whether they put him up in
the NBA or you know, college maskwashers say Division one.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
The whole process feels bad, doesn't feel good. I feel
bad for Bronni from the standpoint of where people will
look at him. Where if this was on his own merrit,
Chris and and I'm saying on his own merit and
anybody drafted him and he worked his way through or
whatever worked through it it was. I think he would
have had a better situation or a better chance without
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having people wear this on him. That the only reason
he's there is his dad. And people aren't gonna say it.
A lot of people aren't gonna say it publicly because
Lebron still has power.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
And there's a big name and a lot of guys.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
But I talked to a lot of former players who
just to me said that this doesn't feel right on
the way that this was handled, all the conversation about it,
everybody knew I told you this month ago that he
was going to the Lakers. There was no doubt in
my mind at all how this was going to play out.
And that's the part that that I'm talking about. When
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I look at the down the road and the way
we look at it.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Did Bronni get in strictly and we don't, And you.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Know, you're guess, you're guessing, I'm guessing you think maybe
it was just all on Bronnie, and it was all
merited and there's nothing known about it.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Definitely, nepotism played a role. Okay, there's no question about it. Okay,
I'm not okay, But my thing is, I don't want
to hear the nepotism card played when.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
People and maybe you, like you said, you said you've
been critical.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
That's fine, but I don't want to hear from people
that haven't said anything about the nepotism that is rampant
in professional sports. Front office is a performance business as well.
Coaching staff is a performance business as well, and if
they rob you know, the league and the NFL and
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Major League Baseball, nepotism is rampant, rampant, and so I
don't want to hear when it's oh, a player flexs
his muscles, one of the owners and the GM has
been flexing their.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Muscles left and right.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Disagree.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Steve Belichick qualified to be a defensive coach with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
He's out of the league now. Now he's coaching in college.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
The difference here is when we talk about earning a
spot on the roster and players knowing whether or not
someone truly belongs on a team, and that's the difference here.
And I'm with you. I said it before, and I've
said it before. Who's the coach I always talk about
with the chiefs. Who is a golf player? I talk
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about it. I'm Todd Haley, Tod. I've said it a
million times because you've heard me on this show.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's an example.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Look, if y'all gonna cut out nepotism, then cut it out.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
And then yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
But but here's the other part is there is some
player who might have lost out on a job because
of Bronni and because of the nepotism.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
And and and and and when it.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Comes to the best player on the field who deserves
that opportunity.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I think this is where you open.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Up this, this slippery slope of this this this is
a back door, if you will. And that's the part
that I'm saying could be the next step that lebron
has opened up.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Remember Bronn He's not the first though Chris Smith heard
of him play lay for the Knicks because j R.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Smith was on the Knicks. Chris Smith didn't have.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
A college career to speak of, played at Manhattan briefly,
real briefly. That's doing the deservice to the word briefly
Louisville briefly briefly.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And was with the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, this has happened, and you can't and I
think you'll agree with me on this. You can't say
it's the worst thing ever, because we know there was
a league. There were the league's period, all of them, NBA, NFL,
major League Baseball. It was a time when heck, this
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was all the league did. They locked out black players
that were qualified to play. I mean in mass so
you had half the league say roughly that was there
because not because it was a meritocracy. It's only become
a marathons, that's once they tore down the doors of segregation.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
But that's a racism that was involved. Absolutely, That ever,
were not the worst thing ever, that was far with
the decision here in this case, I just think long
term could have a bad effect and that this stuff
starts to happen down.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
The Roos players are going to be able to do this.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
No, just only does your son. So what will an
owner do? Put put a guy on the roster. What
do you mean guy meaning what like I don't know, nephew,
put him up what not? I'll put him on that
few play. I mean he has like Brownie James was
a maybe.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Here the all conference high school player.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
He mean yet, but he had a bad He had
a bad year at USC and there was more than
one scout who didn't think that.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
He was worthy of the more than will scouts that
thought he was.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I didn't think he was worthy.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I mean, this is the I'm just talking about guys
who were played in the league. Well I talked to
are really surprised that the way this whole thing played
out and couldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Look at it.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Never thought they had the juice to do this. Lebron
had the juice and most players won't have to.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
But I just gave you. I mean j R.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Smith.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Don't how he got the Jews, I don't know. So
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Bronnie James to the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
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Speaker 5 (16:03):
On it?
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rack dot Com Studios. Rob doesn't like the Lakers draft
in Bronnie your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
All right, let's kick it off with Dennis in Miami.
You're on they couple of Fox Sports Rader. What's up Dennis?
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Hey, what's up, guys?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
What's happening?
Speaker 8 (17:21):
Yeah, Initially I didn't like it, the Bronnie James draft,
but it's gonna be cool. I'm not a Laker fan,
but imagine Bronnie on the wing, playing with his dad,
and then he did shoot it off of Bronnie and
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it's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
I think.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
I think it's gonna work out. Actually, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I don't expect Bronnie to be playing a significant role
this year, if not next year, but we'll see, you know,
if he can develop into a guy that can be
a rotation player. But I do think Rob, they'll be
in at some point, probably a blowout, will blowout Victory Brown,
He'll get in and maybe him and his dad will
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hook up on an alley oop or something like that.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yeah, that might be it. MJ in New Orleans joined
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Speaker 10 (18:19):
What's up, MJ going on Happy Magic City Monday?
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yes, sir man, welcome back.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
To sus Rob plus Chris. I got a real Rob
one hundred and forty seven percent based upon all these
years who've been here, since the Browns was there, that
they're playing for championship and then getting rid of draft picks. Now,
all of a sudden, this draft pick is good enough
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to be picked and to be used as a pawn,
so to speak, for a photo while and this is
the first of in basketball. There were other parents' kids
that that you know, wanted to relations playing for a
Laker organization and whatnot. So yeah, I'm not with this
at all.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's what it feels like to think having that that
they should have whoever else they would have drafted with
that fifty fifth pick would have helped them win the championship.
Speaker 10 (19:16):
I kind of got a different thought of that. I
think if they really wanted to pick Lebron, I mean
pick Briannie, they should have picked Brownie with their their
first pick.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
They couldn't even do that, Dude.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
The dude they got dalg and connect from Tennessee is
way better.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Like that's a good They couldn't even justify that.
Speaker 10 (19:38):
This is what I'm saying, Chris, Chris, if they really
wanted him and he was this player and you know
he has the DNA, why not pick him first?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Because he wasn't. He wasn't a seventeenth pick of the draft.
Ch I mean they that goes against your point. They
picked somebody at seventeen that had a great year last year,
that looks like he could actually be a pretty good
NBA player, and Bronni with the fifty fifth pick. A
lot of times, guys like Rob said, they take flyers
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on guys all the time. There were years ago they
would draft a lot of international guys in the second
rounds because they didn't they were gonna stay overseas for
a few years so they wouldn't have to add their
contracts this year they could stash them. And so you know,
the second round picks are like this all the.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Time, calling Mobile Alabama. You're on the eye couple of
Fox Sports Radio, what's up?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Called, Hey guys, good to talk to you again. Rob.
I'm glad you're back because yeah, the cupcakes of flying.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Wow, it's all good.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Sean catches, Martin Catches.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Oh my gosh. He had Sean fanboy king on for
two days talking about how Bronni's not only gonna dominate Sean.
Speaker 11 (21:00):
Yeah, I'm not saying that's not gonna happen, but this
is my point. I watched the draft and the first
night all they talked about was all the French players,
never before three taking three last ten minutes of the draft.
I actually thought the draft came on at seven, so
I missed most of the draft.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I woke up it was over and I turned on
the TV. Ronnie was taking a fix. Fifth pick. I'm like, whoa, okay,
Bob Meyer sits back. The drafts over. They say, what's
the story of the draft. He said, well, the story
of the draft is Bronnie, Bronnie playing with bron playing
with Bronnie. I'm like, here's the story of the draft.
With ten minutes left of the second second round, and
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all they talked about was European players. They're gonna it's
gonna eclipse every other player on the Lakers. He's gonna
be a circuit that's going to be a side show
and everything. They're gonna get ratings every time they say
bron and Bronnie, it's going to overshadow every other player.
And what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Do you think Briannie do you expect to see him
play significant minutes this year?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I guess, And because they're gonna get ratings, and you know.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It, but that rey're gonna get ratings whether Brownie plays
or not.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
But they're gonna get even higher ones. And what's gonna
now that.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
That's what I think could mess this up if Lebron
didn't may well, you know try, you know, pushes them
to play Bronnie and he's not ready to play. That
is not gonna be good for Bronnie or obviously the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
So I think Brown will stay out of that.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I would be shocked if he pushed them to play
Bronni and he's clearly not ready.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah, I don't know with with everything that that's there. Again,
I've always said to you anyway, that's why I didn't
think Bronnie was going back to college.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Lebron's clock is ticking.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
It's not like he could have waited two more years
for Bronnie to be really all the way ready, Chris
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Three year contract he's about to.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
No, but I'm just saying to let Bronni get to
where he was, you know what I mean as far
as his ability and game, Like everybody thought. Most people
thought he should have gone back for another year college.
You did, even I think.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
No, I'm saying Lebron is scheduled. You know, now, who knows.
I mean, he's about to be forty years old, so
this could actually be his last year.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But I'm saying his contract, he's gonna have three more
years left.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
But I don't know if it's I mean, obviously he'll
get on the court with Briannie.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I think it'll blowout, you know, But I, like I said, Rob,
I would be would you do you well? You think
Lebron's gonna push for him to play this year? I do,
like if he's not ready, it's one thing. If he's
in practice and he's playing as well as Austin, you
know what I mean, Like he's actually playing like he.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Could be in the rotake.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
But don't you remember Lebron's tweet about what was that Rob?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
He's better than that on TV?
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Right, that he's better than the players in the league
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, he did say that, but he that would mess
it up, right, and that would mess up the Lakers,
and and that would not be good for Brianni. If
he again, if he's ready, then that's one thing. But
if he clearly doesn't deserve to be there and he
gets out there and gets embarrassed, I ain't gonna be
good at all. All right, Mark Funky, go Medina around
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Speaker 3 (24:26):
Funky cole Mark Medina, what.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
Up, oh Man? I thought I never see the day
of Klay Thompson leaving the Warriors. It was about six
years ago. I talked to him in his hotel room
before a charity event. He said, I want to be
a Warrior for life. Trying to wrap my head around
all though Chris.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
And I talked about this earlier.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I know it's one of those guys you would think,
UH would have maybe stuck around a long time, you
know what, I mean, to just make the run together,
but obviously not happy with the Warriors and felt like
he was doing.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I suspect that it has to be the case Stone, don't
you think, Mark?
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Well, I'm curious and I've been trying to get just
the exact specifics on everything because I'm still having trouble
reconciling all this, because you know, he was getting the
Max deal, his previous deal, and the wake and the
Warriors did not waiver on that a month after he
tore his ACL No doubt what they would offer would
(25:24):
be a significant pay cut, but you know they did offer,
you know, two years in twenty four million each, and
you know there's a scenario where he's making less here
with going to Dallas through the signing trade. So it's
just tough to wrap my head around. And then you
look at the season last year. Yeah, I was frustrating
time for him to accept coming off the bench, and
(25:47):
he hasn't been the same player as he once was
pre injuries, but there were moments where he was having
chemistry and embracing the role. So I just I knew
it wouldn't be the same as it was during the
glory years, but I didn't think it would blow up
like this where he'd leave and there's some ill will
toward everything. I mean, it's wild.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
How surprised are you that he chose the Mavericks over
the Lakers. We all know the connections to the Lakers.
His dad played there, his dad's a broadcaster there. Even
with the Lakers offering more money four years eighty million
verse five years fifty.
Speaker 9 (26:21):
Million, Well, I'm not surprised because I think that when
you look at a basketball fit, I think he could
make the case that it would have been good for
both teams. But when it comes to signing trades, the
Lakers didn't have anything the Warriors wanted and their main ship,
the Lakers or the Warriors really didn't want Indiangel Russell.
I mean, they already went down that road with signing.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Why would they bring him back?
Speaker 9 (26:44):
Yeah, And ironically they got him because Klay Thompson was
going to be out that whole season twenty nineteen with
his ACL injury, and while they didn't foresee Steph Curry
getting hurt four games in the season, they walked away
with the conclusion that yeah, he's great at what he
does shooting, playmaking, but bat at what he doesn't do
well with defense and overall consistency, and they just feel
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it felt like it would be the same path. So
from an asset standpoint, not surprised that went to Dallas route,
But I am surprised that if indeed the Lakers did
offer more money that that that would have been a thing.
But again, for it to work, it would have been
it would have had to be sign intrude because the
only thing that Lakers could have offered was the mid
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level and that would have been a drastic pickcut for
Clay to accept.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
What has been the scuttle butt behind the scenes, or
maybe people maybe don't want to make public comments about
the Bronni and the Lakers and uh, just how that
whole thing played out or went down.
Speaker 9 (27:47):
You mean as far as selecting Broni at fifty five?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah, just like how would how would happened?
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Or I don't think most people were shocked by it,
but did they feel like it was kosher? Was was not?
The Ko Show was a little contrived, do you know
what I mean?
Speaker 9 (28:03):
Like, I don't think anyone's around the league's believing Rob
Palenko when he said that most for the primary reasons
why they selected Bronnie was his character, work, ethic and
potential and not so much the father son connections.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Right.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
I bet Lebron's wanting that, But I don't think that
there was a lot of outrage over it, only because
it's the fifty fifth pick. It's not the first round pick,
and the Lakers didn't trade up to get that pick. Now,
there is a difference between a late second round pick
and just signing him undrafted on a two way contract.
But I think the feeling around the league is it's
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not that drastically different, And I think, in fairness to Brownie,
a lot of question marks about his game. One thing
that one executive told me is he doesn't have a
defined skill set. He's okay as a shooter, but not great.
Okay as a defender not great, but it's not clear
whether he can be a one or two. But they
feel like he's got upside, great team guy. The fact
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that he overcame the cardiac arrest showed a lot of resiliency.
So I think when he weigh all this stuff, I'm
not going to downplay or say, hey, people shouldn't criticize it,
Like we all should be able to debate all this
all we want. But I don't think that the big
concerns that we highlight, as far as distractions or how
it will affect Rocker room dynamics, I don't think that'll
(29:26):
be that big of the thing, only because Bronni's not
expected to have a big role.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Well, but but there will be You don't think there'll
be anybody depending on if you watch this kid in
practice or something and he's not up the part where
other team. You know most players and you know this
as from the competition standpoint, know when somebody belongs and
when they don't belong.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Yeah, no, it's a fair point, Rob. I think what
Bronni has going for him is he has a very
unassuming personality. He kind of projects, you know, a humbleness.
I mean, I think he's very well aware of what
his whole living situation has been with Lebron being his dad,
so he doesn't ever come across as entitled. I think
(30:08):
where there could be that point of contention, as if
Lebron behind the scenes or directly is pushing for Bronny
to play more minutes. And look, we know Lebron exerts
his influence.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
I suspect that he should have enough awareness not to
do it this way for both Bronnie's sake and the
locker rooms sake.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
That's the one thing I think could be messed this up.
I think the players love Lebron so much they look
up to him, They're going to embrace Bronni.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
But if he clearly isn't ready to play, and.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Lebron is pushing to get him to play, that could
mess it up.
Speaker 9 (30:45):
Could be right.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
He'sould leave it to Reddick and the coaching staff and
just not stay out of it completely.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Let me ask you this before you go Dalton Connett.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Look, we know he's already's twenty three, but man, did
he have a nice he's in last year at Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
How surprised were the.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Lakers to get him at that low, you know, draft
spot seventeen, And are they like expecting him to really
come in and be in their rotation next year.
Speaker 9 (31:14):
Yeah, they're really surprised. I mean Rob Flinklish is saying
that they expected him to be in the top ten.
And while after every draft you always roll your eyes
a lot of times when the front office says, oh, yeah,
he was our first choice, and you know we projected
him higher. When you look at all the mock drafts,
he was projected to be in the top ten.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
So he dropped in.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
We don't know. I mean, I'm curious on that.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I think it's just I think some of it is
the age.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You know, people look at it like, well, he's twenty three,
he's playing against kids. The best players his age are
already in the league, you know, but these older guys
with more experience come in and not they're going to
be a star, but they come here ready to play
and contribute in a lot of cases.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
Yeah, and take this, I mean it cuts both ways,
good and bad. With the Lakers. He's a really good shooter.
The Lakers need a lot of shooting. They feel like
he's ready to produce on that end of the four. Defensively,
might be an adjustment with the one thing that's keeping
the Lakers encouraged. He does have some good size them
and some physical strength. But yeah, the Lakers need a
lot of shooting, and it's good that at least have
(32:17):
another player that's ready to do that. But again, the
Lakers have so many holes to fill. A number seventeenth
protect isn't going to solve every them.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
All right, that is our man, Mark Funky Cole Madina.
Let's send him out the right way.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
All right, brother, have a good night.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
I appreciate you, Unke Clay. I feel totally respected.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
There you go, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That's right, that's right, all right, we will talk Clay
and the Warriors next.
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off the air, Rob. It is the official end of
an era in Golden State. Look, I mean, unless they
were able to make some unforeseen move, their days of
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winning championships were over with or without Clay.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
But how do you feel about them now?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Like, I think they're going to battle to get to
play in If they can get Lowry Markinn. I think
he's a great fit for them. Seven footer, shoots the three, well,
shoots a lot of threes too, solid rebounder about eight
the game.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
He'd be just what they need now.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I don't think he make them a top tier contender,
but with him they have a chance of being like
a middle rung playoff team in the West. Where are
you at on the war If they can't get him,
then I mean, you know, they unless these young boys
really develop. And they got some good young players Brandon
Patzimski mostly Jonathan Kaminga, but.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Trace Jackson Jackson Davis is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Like they got some decent young players, but not enough
really to compete big time in the West unless they
can pull off a big trade.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yeah, I don't see them going to the playoffs. More
like home dinner or a show, you know what I mean? Chris, Like, like, yes,
it's gonna be a tough, tough wes the off. They
don't have that many options, right, and they're an older team.
There's a lot of stuff not to like about the
Warriors going forward. And I understand why they why you know,
(35:12):
with the clay and the money, I understand it.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Chris.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
There's economics that when you talked about it earlier, they're
economics involved. They're already they had the highest payroll, they're
paying all this tax. You know, like after a while,
you know, you want to win, Like, let's do whatever
we can. Let's you know what I mean, Let's go
for it. Let's keep going forward. Some point you can't
keep kicking the can down the road.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Well, and to your point, I think they would.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Have paid it if, like bringing back Clay was the
difference between. It's kind of like the Clippers like that, right,
they're not winning it with Clay.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
You're not winning and you're not right, like, like, what
what is the point of that? But you say we
won four times? It was great if he was willing
to stick around, you know what I mean, and play
out the strain and not kill us, you.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Financially, Christen, you make the deal, right, I think you
make the deal?
Speaker 5 (36:07):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
How do you feel about the Zach Levine? I mean, he's.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Hurt too much from me, I just can't like.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Because Wiggins, Wiggins gets hurt but all now not quite
as much as Levine, but Wig. But he's also out
for like mental you know what I mean, like family
stuff or whatever.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Missed a few of those.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Yeah, Wiggins has had a rough stretch after playing so
well and helping him win the championship, and they don't
win that without him.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
And last year he's averaged about eighteen points a game
with the Warriors, but last year took a dramatic step back.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
He's only twenty eight years old, so I guess they're like,
I don't know what you know where he's at. But
if he could get back to the top of his
game and he's out he's cheaper than Zach, then I
like him because obviously he's a better defender.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
But can he get back to top of his game?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
That's the key.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Yeah, And I don't know Zach because he's another one
just just hurt a lot.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
He can score.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I like it obviously offensively, he I think he'd have
been a great fit for him because he can score
and he can shoot, but he has hurt a lot.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean, who was it.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Anthony Slater was on the on with us earlier and
said they've been trying to trade him since November, so
it's he hasn't, you know, ever really contributed to winning.
But I think in that atmosphere he'd have been good
for him. But maybe they felt Rob like it was
D'Angelo Russell all over again. I don't know, but I
(37:39):
would have you know, look, I'm not paying their bills,
but I would have liked to have seen Levine, like,
if I could get him for Chris Paul and Wiggins.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I would have done it.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I would have done it because this was the first
year in a while that he basically was out the
whole season.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
But we will see, we will see.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
And I did want to make one little correction about JR. Smith.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
Yeah, his brother was already with the team before they
got JR. He was in their summer league program, so
it wasn't like right, but but I'm just saying he
was different. But he was already there though before JR.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Got there, That's all I dude.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I mean, he didn't do have much of a college
career to speak up.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
No, I'm just just for clar signed for a few games,
but I'm saying he was signed for a few games
when JR.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Was there.
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We got our man, Mark Funky Cole Madina at the
bottom of the hour, and we'll talk some Lakers with him,
but we'll talk some Lakers with Rob.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Rob, of course, was out on vacation.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Last week when Bronnie James, the son of lebron James,
was drafted with the fifty fifth pick of the NBA
Drift by the Lakers, and he will join his dad.
Rob and I have said all along that Briannie is
going to be a Laker, and he is.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You haven't been able to share your thoughts on this show,
so go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Chris? I want to make this very clear. This is not.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Anything to do with Bronnie. It doesn't I get it.
It's his father trying to do rus ripe or help
his kid in any way. Can I don't have any kids.
I never played the professional sports. I get all that,
but I must admit I think this is the worst
decision that's had ever happened in professional sports, and I'm
(01:59):
dead series.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
It's when I say that, the.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Worst by a team.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Just why you're all around everybody involved in this because
it changes what the essence of the game has always been,
which is about competition, and we talk about all the time,
right Mederic, Oh my god, mericocracy right?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Meritocracy. Meritocracy, I got it, Chris.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
This is what we've always talked about and the reason
why you have an NFL where you have essentially ninety
nine percent of the owners are white and yet the
league is seventy percent black. Meritocracy is what allowed this
to be the case. They didn't go out and just
(02:56):
fill their teams with people who look like them because
they own the team and said, I don't care. I'm
gonna do what I want to do and no one
can tell me because I own the team. It was
about the best people went out there, played the game,
and the people who deserve to get jobs got jobs.
I heard a lot of people throw around nepotism, and
(03:21):
there's plenty of nepotism, and I've been critical, yeah, I plenty,
and I've thrown out nepatist Chris.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
It's wrong.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
We've seen it, especially in the front office, but it
ain't right. But it ain't the same as what we've
seen here. As far as on the field. Someone would
have to show me on the field where some guy
got his son a spot on a team or some
owner put his nephew on out Just take the last
(03:53):
spot on the roster. It doesn't matter. I want you
to be on the team because I own the team.
And that's the part. I think when Lebron looks at
his legacy, that he'll be leaving this sport in a
worse place than when he got here. And what I
mean is he's opened up a Pandora's box now to
(04:16):
where I don't know how you tell people not to
do what he just did, right his kid, by all
of the scouts, not Rob Parker as a scout, all
the scouts smaller guard, Chris. He didn't have a great
year in college.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
All the stings he might have made it. He might
have been able to be on a team.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
As a non drafted player and worked his way through
and all that right could ev But this was like, no,
he's coming to the Lakers, get out of the way,
don't draft him. This is all about Lebron making this happen.
I remember when Tim Tebow went down to Jacksonville. People
were like, what to play a position he had never played.
(05:01):
He was an older player. But Irban Meyer, oh that's
my next door neighbor. People weren't with it. People throw
out the Dallas Cowboys, Chris. It's filled with nepotism. He
has all of his kids in the front office. But
I could justify a family business where you're hiring people
(05:21):
in your family more so than I can on a team.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Or on a become nepotism.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
No, and I'm not saying I'm against nepotism, but I'm
tar I'm against nepotism.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
What I'm saying is when you play on.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
The field that is supposed to be based on your merit,
your ability and not. And that's where someone would have
to show me where owners have done this in the past,
because I can't find it. I can't find where they
put somebody on a team because they own the team,
or they wanted to help out their kid. If if
(05:58):
Tibo was essentially nepotism, No, but he didn't make the team,
but he got a tryout. But I'm talking about Andy
Weed's kids, Bill Belichick's kids. Did he put him on
a team or he goes, hey, you're gonna work your
way up there getting broken in half? I mean, they're
not even remotely like Roight. Here's where I mean I
disagree with you overall.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
And there are players, it's not just front office and
coaching staff where we've seen this. The nasais Ante Dekompo
think he's much of a player. Wait a minute, the
Dee the Bucks?
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Okay, but was he who was who drafted him?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I don't know who drafted him, but he got a
contract now with the Bucks because Giannis is on the Buck.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
No, but the Knicks drafted him. And let me say this, Chris,
I'm glad you brought that up. That came after Giannice's
first year, when he averaged six points and four rebounds,
So it wasn't as if he was a big star
and they knew it he was. Jannis would didn't even
blossom yet when the Knicks drafted his brother, so that
that's not where Gianni's on the team.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
No, but I'm talking about he was drafting. He was
drafted originally.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
By the Knicks after Giannis didn't have a big year,
so Janni's had no play. He couldn't tell the Knicks
to draft his brother. He averaged six points his rookie year.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It's possible that Brownie would have got drafted, because here's
the thing.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
You don't believe that.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I mean, I'm told four teams were interested.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I heard Tylu wanted him with the Clippers, Minnesota had interest,
Toronto had interests. Phoenix only wanted him for Lebron. But
you know Phoenix had interest. So I'm told that one
of those teams could have drafted. Why was Rich Paul
calling around if it was like, man, please, we ain't
think about no Brownie James. Why was Rich Paul calling in,
(07:50):
texting team saying don't draft him?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
If there was no chance he was gonna get drafted.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
The difference here is when you talk about those situations.
If this was Bronnie James played at USC and somebody
wants to people take flyers Chris all the.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Time and the second round on people, how is this different?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I mean, I get it's different because his dad, But
I'm just saying Bronnie was the nineteenth ranked player Chris.
He didn't hit ken I finished, Okay, he was the
nineteenth ranked player in his senior class, you know, before
he had the cardiac arrest. And I do think the
cardiacer rest impacted this season with USC, which we know
wasn't good, but he was, like he wasn't he made
(08:35):
Obviously McDonald's All American.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Some say that was because of lebron I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He was nineteenth ranked player in his class, so that's
close to McDonald's All American anyway, and they're different rankings.
So that's my point, Like he is not, like, like
you said, an owner putting their son on the team.
Most owner's sons probably weren't close to being Division one
basket Michael.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
The Hornets, he had two sons, could have put one
of them on.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, But I mean maybe they weren't close to as
good as the NBA, that he don't have to be.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It's arguable that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Briani was in NBA process because he went to the
No it was you.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You saw the reviews of him in Chicago.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Her scout who said that they didn't think that he
was in but player right.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But you also heard other ones saying he shot it, well,
he's more, he's a plus athlete. And Tom Haberstrow did
a story saying legacy players whose fathers played in the
league tend to over perform with.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Their draft status.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So like Jalen Brunson has obviously been better than his
draft status, and that goes for a lot of players,
And so there there were some neflis that that's what
happened with second round picks. Some people like him think
they're NBA players. Some people I just just saying it
ain't like Bronni was. And a lot of guys that
put up bad numbers got drafted, whether they put them
(10:08):
up in Europe or whether they put him up in
the NBA or you know, college maskwashers say Division one.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
The whole process feels bad, doesn't feel good. I feel
bad for Bronni from the standpoint of where people will
look at him. Where if this was on his own merrit,
Chris and and I'm saying on his own merit and
anybody drafted him and he worked his way through or
whatever worked through it it was. I think he would
have had a better situation or a better chance without
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having people wear this on him. That the only reason
he's there is his dad. And people aren't gonna say it.
A lot of people aren't gonna say it publicly because
Lebron still has power.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
And there's a big name and a lot of guys.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
But I talked to a lot of former players who
just to me said that this doesn't feel right on
the way that this was handled, all the conversation about it,
everybody knew I told you this month ago that he
was going to the Lakers. There was no doubt in
my mind at all how this was going to play out.
And that's the part that that I'm talking about. When
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I look at the down the road and the way
we look at it.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Did Bronni get in strictly and we don't, And you.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Know, you're guess, you're guessing, I'm guessing you think maybe
it was just all on Bronnie, and it was all
merited and there's nothing known about it.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Definitely, nepotism played a role. Okay, there's no question about it. Okay,
I'm not okay, But my thing is, I don't want
to hear the nepotism card played when.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
People and maybe you, like you said, you said you've
been critical.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
That's fine, but I don't want to hear from people
that haven't said anything about the nepotism that is rampant
in professional sports. Front office is a performance business as well.
Coaching staff is a performance business as well, and if
they rob you know, the league and the NFL and
(12:07):
Major League Baseball, nepotism is rampant, rampant, and so I
don't want to hear when it's oh, a player flexs
his muscles, one of the owners and the GM has
been flexing their.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Muscles left and right.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Disagree.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Steve Belichick qualified to be a defensive coach with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
He's out of the league now. Now he's coaching in college.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
The difference here is when we talk about earning a
spot on the roster and players knowing whether or not
someone truly belongs on a team, and that's the difference here.
And I'm with you. I said it before, and I've
said it before. Who's the coach I always talk about
with the chiefs. Who is a golf player? I talk
(12:53):
about it. I'm Todd Haley, Tod. I've said it a
million times because you've heard me on this show.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's an example.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Look, if y'all gonna cut out nepotism, then cut it out.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
And then yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
But but here's the other part is there is some
player who might have lost out on a job because
of Bronni and because of the nepotism.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
And and and and and when it.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Comes to the best player on the field who deserves
that opportunity.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I think this is where you open.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Up this, this slippery slope of this this this is
a back door, if you will. And that's the part
that I'm saying could be the next step that lebron
has opened up.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Remember Bronn He's not the first though Chris Smith heard
of him play lay for the Knicks because j R.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Smith was on the Knicks. Chris Smith didn't have.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
A college career to speak of, played at Manhattan briefly,
real briefly. That's doing the deservice to the word briefly
Louisville briefly briefly.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And was with the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, this has happened, and you can't and I
think you'll agree with me on this. You can't say
it's the worst thing ever, because we know there was
a league. There were the league's period, all of them, NBA, NFL,
major League Baseball. It was a time when heck, this
(14:20):
was all the league did. They locked out black players
that were qualified to play. I mean in mass so
you had half the league say roughly that was there
because not because it was a meritocracy. It's only become
a marathons, that's once they tore down the doors of segregation.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
But that's a racism that was involved. Absolutely, That ever,
were not the worst thing ever, that was far with
the decision here in this case, I just think long
term could have a bad effect and that this stuff
starts to happen down.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
The Roos players are going to be able to do this.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
No, just only does your son. So what will an
owner do? Put put a guy on the roster. What
do you mean guy meaning what like I don't know, nephew,
put him up what not? I'll put him on that
few play. I mean he has like Brownie James was
a maybe.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Here the all conference high school player.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
He mean yet, but he had a bad He had
a bad year at USC and there was more than
one scout who didn't think that.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
He was worthy of the more than will scouts that
thought he was.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I didn't think he was worthy.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I mean, this is the I'm just talking about guys
who were played in the league. Well I talked to
are really surprised that the way this whole thing played
out and couldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Look at it.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Never thought they had the juice to do this. Lebron
had the juice and most players won't have to.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
But I just gave you. I mean j R.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Smith.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Don't how he got the Jews, I don't know. So
all right, let's throw it out to you guys. Eight
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Bronnie James to the Lakers.
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rack dot Com Studios. Rob doesn't like the Lakers draft
in Bronnie your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
All right, let's kick it off with Dennis in Miami.
You're on they couple of Fox Sports Rader. What's up Dennis?
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Hey, what's up, guys?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
What's happening?
Speaker 8 (17:21):
Yeah, Initially I didn't like it, the Bronnie James draft,
but it's gonna be cool. I'm not a Laker fan,
but imagine Bronnie on the wing, playing with his dad,
and then he did shoot it off of Bronnie and
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it's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
I think.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
I think it's gonna work out. Actually, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I don't expect Bronnie to be playing a significant role
this year, if not next year, but we'll see, you know,
if he can develop into a guy that can be
a rotation player. But I do think Rob, they'll be
in at some point, probably a blowout, will blowout Victory Brown,
He'll get in and maybe him and his dad will
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hook up on an alley oop or something like that.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yeah, that might be it. MJ in New Orleans joined
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Speaker 10 (18:19):
What's up, MJ going on Happy Magic City Monday?
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yes, sir man, welcome back.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
To sus Rob plus Chris. I got a real Rob
one hundred and forty seven percent based upon all these
years who've been here, since the Browns was there, that
they're playing for championship and then getting rid of draft picks. Now,
all of a sudden, this draft pick is good enough
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to be picked and to be used as a pawn,
so to speak, for a photo while and this is
the first of in basketball. There were other parents' kids
that that you know, wanted to relations playing for a
Laker organization and whatnot. So yeah, I'm not with this
at all.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's what it feels like to think having that that
they should have whoever else they would have drafted with
that fifty fifth pick would have helped them win the championship.
Speaker 10 (19:16):
I kind of got a different thought of that. I
think if they really wanted to pick Lebron, I mean
pick Briannie, they should have picked Brownie with their their
first pick.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
They couldn't even do that, Dude.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
The dude they got dalg and connect from Tennessee is
way better.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Like that's a good They couldn't even justify that.
Speaker 10 (19:38):
This is what I'm saying, Chris, Chris, if they really
wanted him and he was this player and you know
he has the DNA, why not pick him first?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Because he wasn't. He wasn't a seventeenth pick of the draft.
Ch I mean they that goes against your point. They
picked somebody at seventeen that had a great year last year,
that looks like he could actually be a pretty good
NBA player, and Bronni with the fifty fifth pick. A
lot of times, guys like Rob said, they take flyers
(20:09):
on guys all the time. There were years ago they
would draft a lot of international guys in the second
rounds because they didn't they were gonna stay overseas for
a few years so they wouldn't have to add their
contracts this year they could stash them. And so you know,
the second round picks are like this all the.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Time, calling Mobile Alabama. You're on the eye couple of
Fox Sports Radio, what's up?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Called, Hey guys, good to talk to you again. Rob.
I'm glad you're back because yeah, the cupcakes of flying.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Wow, it's all good.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Sean catches, Martin Catches.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Oh my gosh. He had Sean fanboy king on for
two days talking about how Bronni's not only gonna dominate Sean.
Speaker 11 (21:00):
Yeah, I'm not saying that's not gonna happen, but this
is my point. I watched the draft and the first
night all they talked about was all the French players,
never before three taking three last ten minutes of the draft.
I actually thought the draft came on at seven, so
I missed most of the draft.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I woke up it was over and I turned on
the TV. Ronnie was taking a fix. Fifth pick. I'm like, whoa, okay,
Bob Meyer sits back. The drafts over. They say, what's
the story of the draft. He said, well, the story
of the draft is Bronnie, Bronnie playing with bron playing
with Bronnie. I'm like, here's the story of the draft.
With ten minutes left of the second second round, and
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all they talked about was European players. They're gonna it's
gonna eclipse every other player on the Lakers. He's gonna
be a circuit that's going to be a side show
and everything. They're gonna get ratings every time they say
bron and Bronnie, it's going to overshadow every other player.
And what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Do you think Briannie do you expect to see him
play significant minutes this year?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I guess, And because they're gonna get ratings, and you know.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It, but that rey're gonna get ratings whether Brownie plays
or not.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
But they're gonna get even higher ones. And what's gonna
now that.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
That's what I think could mess this up if Lebron
didn't may well, you know try, you know, pushes them
to play Bronnie and he's not ready to play. That
is not gonna be good for Bronnie or obviously the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
So I think Brown will stay out of that.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I would be shocked if he pushed them to play
Bronni and he's clearly not ready.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah, I don't know with with everything that that's there. Again,
I've always said to you anyway, that's why I didn't
think Bronnie was going back to college.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Lebron's clock is ticking.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
It's not like he could have waited two more years
for Bronnie to be really all the way ready, Chris
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Three year contract he's about to.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
No, but I'm just saying to let Bronni get to
where he was, you know what I mean as far
as his ability and game, Like everybody thought. Most people
thought he should have gone back for another year college.
You did, even I think.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
No, I'm saying Lebron is scheduled. You know, now, who knows.
I mean, he's about to be forty years old, so
this could actually be his last year.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But I'm saying his contract, he's gonna have three more
years left.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
But I don't know if it's I mean, obviously he'll
get on the court with Briannie.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I think it'll blowout, you know, But I, like I said, Rob,
I would be would you do you well? You think
Lebron's gonna push for him to play this year? I do,
like if he's not ready, it's one thing. If he's
in practice and he's playing as well as Austin, you
know what I mean, Like he's actually playing like he.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Could be in the rotake.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
But don't you remember Lebron's tweet about what was that Rob?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
He's better than that on TV?
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Right, that he's better than the players in the league
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, he did say that, but he that would mess
it up, right, and that would mess up the Lakers,
and and that would not be good for Brianni. If
he again, if he's ready, then that's one thing. But
if he clearly doesn't deserve to be there and he
gets out there and gets embarrassed, I ain't gonna be
good at all. All right, Mark Funky, go Medina around
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Speaker 3 (24:26):
Funky cole Mark Medina, what.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
Up, oh Man? I thought I never see the day
of Klay Thompson leaving the Warriors. It was about six
years ago. I talked to him in his hotel room
before a charity event. He said, I want to be
a Warrior for life. Trying to wrap my head around
all though Chris.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
And I talked about this earlier.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I know it's one of those guys you would think,
UH would have maybe stuck around a long time, you
know what, I mean, to just make the run together,
but obviously not happy with the Warriors and felt like
he was doing.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I suspect that it has to be the case Stone, don't
you think, Mark?
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Well, I'm curious and I've been trying to get just
the exact specifics on everything because I'm still having trouble
reconciling all this, because you know, he was getting the
Max deal, his previous deal, and the wake and the
Warriors did not waiver on that a month after he
tore his ACL No doubt what they would offer would
(25:24):
be a significant pay cut, but you know they did offer,
you know, two years in twenty four million each, and
you know there's a scenario where he's making less here
with going to Dallas through the signing trade. So it's
just tough to wrap my head around. And then you
look at the season last year. Yeah, I was frustrating
time for him to accept coming off the bench, and
(25:47):
he hasn't been the same player as he once was
pre injuries, but there were moments where he was having
chemistry and embracing the role. So I just I knew
it wouldn't be the same as it was during the
glory years, but I didn't think it would blow up
like this where he'd leave and there's some ill will
toward everything. I mean, it's wild.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
How surprised are you that he chose the Mavericks over
the Lakers. We all know the connections to the Lakers.
His dad played there, his dad's a broadcaster there. Even
with the Lakers offering more money four years eighty million
verse five years fifty.
Speaker 9 (26:21):
Million, Well, I'm not surprised because I think that when
you look at a basketball fit, I think he could
make the case that it would have been good for
both teams. But when it comes to signing trades, the
Lakers didn't have anything the Warriors wanted and their main ship,
the Lakers or the Warriors really didn't want Indiangel Russell.
I mean, they already went down that road with signing.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Why would they bring him back?
Speaker 9 (26:44):
Yeah, And ironically they got him because Klay Thompson was
going to be out that whole season twenty nineteen with
his ACL injury, and while they didn't foresee Steph Curry
getting hurt four games in the season, they walked away
with the conclusion that yeah, he's great at what he
does shooting, playmaking, but bat at what he doesn't do
well with defense and overall consistency, and they just feel
(27:06):
it felt like it would be the same path. So
from an asset standpoint, not surprised that went to Dallas route,
But I am surprised that if indeed the Lakers did
offer more money that that that would have been a thing.
But again, for it to work, it would have been
it would have had to be sign intrude because the
only thing that Lakers could have offered was the mid
(27:27):
level and that would have been a drastic pickcut for
Clay to accept.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
What has been the scuttle butt behind the scenes, or
maybe people maybe don't want to make public comments about
the Bronni and the Lakers and uh, just how that
whole thing played out or went down.
Speaker 9 (27:47):
You mean as far as selecting Broni at fifty five?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah, just like how would how would happened?
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Or I don't think most people were shocked by it,
but did they feel like it was kosher? Was was not?
The Ko Show was a little contrived, do you know
what I mean?
Speaker 9 (28:03):
Like, I don't think anyone's around the league's believing Rob
Palenko when he said that most for the primary reasons
why they selected Bronnie was his character, work, ethic and
potential and not so much the father son connections.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Right.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
I bet Lebron's wanting that, But I don't think that
there was a lot of outrage over it, only because
it's the fifty fifth pick. It's not the first round pick,
and the Lakers didn't trade up to get that pick. Now,
there is a difference between a late second round pick
and just signing him undrafted on a two way contract.
But I think the feeling around the league is it's
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not that drastically different, And I think, in fairness to Brownie,
a lot of question marks about his game. One thing
that one executive told me is he doesn't have a
defined skill set. He's okay as a shooter, but not great.
Okay as a defender not great, but it's not clear
whether he can be a one or two. But they
feel like he's got upside, great team guy. The fact
(29:04):
that he overcame the cardiac arrest showed a lot of resiliency.
So I think when he weigh all this stuff, I'm
not going to downplay or say, hey, people shouldn't criticize it,
Like we all should be able to debate all this
all we want. But I don't think that the big
concerns that we highlight, as far as distractions or how
it will affect Rocker room dynamics, I don't think that'll
(29:26):
be that big of the thing, only because Bronni's not
expected to have a big role.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Well, but but there will be You don't think there'll
be anybody depending on if you watch this kid in
practice or something and he's not up the part where
other team. You know most players and you know this
as from the competition standpoint, know when somebody belongs and
when they don't belong.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Yeah, no, it's a fair point, Rob. I think what
Bronni has going for him is he has a very
unassuming personality. He kind of projects, you know, a humbleness.
I mean, I think he's very well aware of what
his whole living situation has been with Lebron being his dad,
so he doesn't ever come across as entitled. I think
(30:08):
where there could be that point of contention, as if
Lebron behind the scenes or directly is pushing for Bronny
to play more minutes. And look, we know Lebron exerts
his influence.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
I suspect that he should have enough awareness not to
do it this way for both Bronnie's sake and the
locker rooms sake.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
That's the one thing I think could be messed this up.
I think the players love Lebron so much they look
up to him, They're going to embrace Bronni.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
But if he clearly isn't ready to play, and.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Lebron is pushing to get him to play, that could
mess it up.
Speaker 9 (30:45):
Could be right.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
He'sould leave it to Reddick and the coaching staff and
just not stay out of it completely.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Let me ask you this before you go Dalton Connett.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Look, we know he's already's twenty three, but man, did
he have a nice he's in last year at Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
How surprised were the.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Lakers to get him at that low, you know, draft
spot seventeen, And are they like expecting him to really
come in and be in their rotation next year.
Speaker 9 (31:14):
Yeah, they're really surprised. I mean Rob Flinklish is saying
that they expected him to be in the top ten.
And while after every draft you always roll your eyes
a lot of times when the front office says, oh, yeah,
he was our first choice, and you know we projected
him higher. When you look at all the mock drafts,
he was projected to be in the top ten.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
So he dropped in.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
We don't know. I mean, I'm curious on that.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I think it's just I think some of it is
the age.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You know, people look at it like, well, he's twenty three,
he's playing against kids. The best players his age are
already in the league, you know, but these older guys
with more experience come in and not they're going to
be a star, but they come here ready to play
and contribute in a lot of cases.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
Yeah, and take this, I mean it cuts both ways,
good and bad. With the Lakers. He's a really good shooter.
The Lakers need a lot of shooting. They feel like
he's ready to produce on that end of the four. Defensively,
might be an adjustment with the one thing that's keeping
the Lakers encouraged. He does have some good size them
and some physical strength. But yeah, the Lakers need a
lot of shooting, and it's good that at least have
(32:17):
another player that's ready to do that. But again, the
Lakers have so many holes to fill. A number seventeenth
protect isn't going to solve every them.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
All right, that is our man, Mark Funky Cole Madina.
Let's send him out the right way.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
All right, brother, have a good night.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
I appreciate you, Unke Clay. I feel totally respected.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
There you go, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That's right, that's right, all right, we will talk Clay
and the Warriors next.
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off the air, Rob. It is the official end of
an era in Golden State. Look, I mean, unless they
were able to make some unforeseen move, their days of
(33:47):
winning championships were over with or without Clay.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
But how do you feel about them now?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Like, I think they're going to battle to get to
play in If they can get Lowry Markinn. I think
he's a great fit for them. Seven footer, shoots the three, well,
shoots a lot of threes too, solid rebounder about eight
the game.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
He'd be just what they need now.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I don't think he make them a top tier contender,
but with him they have a chance of being like
a middle rung playoff team in the West. Where are
you at on the war If they can't get him,
then I mean, you know, they unless these young boys
really develop. And they got some good young players Brandon
Patzimski mostly Jonathan Kaminga, but.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Trace Jackson Jackson Davis is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Like they got some decent young players, but not enough
really to compete big time in the West unless they
can pull off a big trade.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yeah, I don't see them going to the playoffs. More
like home dinner or a show, you know what I mean? Chris, Like, like, yes,
it's gonna be a tough, tough wes the off. They
don't have that many options, right, and they're an older team.
There's a lot of stuff not to like about the
Warriors going forward. And I understand why they why you know,
(35:12):
with the clay and the money, I understand it.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Chris.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
There's economics that when you talked about it earlier, they're
economics involved. They're already they had the highest payroll, they're
paying all this tax. You know, like after a while,
you know, you want to win, Like, let's do whatever
we can. Let's you know what I mean, Let's go
for it. Let's keep going forward. Some point you can't
keep kicking the can down the road.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Well, and to your point, I think they would.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Have paid it if, like bringing back Clay was the
difference between. It's kind of like the Clippers like that, right,
they're not winning it with Clay.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
You're not winning and you're not right, like, like, what
what is the point of that? But you say we
won four times? It was great if he was willing
to stick around, you know what I mean, and play
out the strain and not kill us, you.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Financially, Christen, you make the deal, right, I think you
make the deal?
Speaker 5 (36:07):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
How do you feel about the Zach Levine? I mean, he's.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Hurt too much from me, I just can't like.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Because Wiggins, Wiggins gets hurt but all now not quite
as much as Levine, but Wig. But he's also out
for like mental you know what I mean, like family
stuff or whatever.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Missed a few of those.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Yeah, Wiggins has had a rough stretch after playing so
well and helping him win the championship, and they don't
win that without him.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
And last year he's averaged about eighteen points a game
with the Warriors, but last year took a dramatic step back.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
He's only twenty eight years old, so I guess they're like,
I don't know what you know where he's at. But
if he could get back to the top of his
game and he's out he's cheaper than Zach, then I
like him because obviously he's a better defender.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
But can he get back to top of his game?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
That's the key.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Yeah, And I don't know Zach because he's another one
just just hurt a lot.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
He can score.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I like it obviously offensively, he I think he'd have
been a great fit for him because he can score
and he can shoot, but he has hurt a lot.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean, who was it.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Anthony Slater was on the on with us earlier and
said they've been trying to trade him since November, so
it's he hasn't, you know, ever really contributed to winning.
But I think in that atmosphere he'd have been good
for him. But maybe they felt Rob like it was
D'Angelo Russell all over again. I don't know, but I
(37:39):
would have you know, look, I'm not paying their bills,
but I would have liked to have seen Levine, like,
if I could get him for Chris Paul and Wiggins.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I would have done it.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I would have done it because this was the first
year in a while that he basically was out the
whole season.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
But we will see, we will see.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
And I did want to make one little correction about JR. Smith.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
Yeah, his brother was already with the team before they
got JR. He was in their summer league program, so
it wasn't like right, but but I'm just saying he
was different. But he was already there though before JR.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Got there, That's all I dude.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I mean, he didn't do have much of a college
career to speak up.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
No, I'm just just for clar signed for a few games,
but I'm saying he was signed for a few games
when JR.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Was there.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
So all right, Uh, it is the odd couple.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Chris Brusard and Rob Parker sign it off, but keep
it locked. Don't touch that doll, because here on Fox
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