July 9, 2024 • 35 mins
Former NFL quarterback Shaun King is in for Chris, and he and Rob debate whether LeBron James being voted as the best player on Team USA is a bad omen for our Olympic dreams, argue over whether the Miami Dolphins are making a mistake by not offering Tua Tagovailoa a market-value contract and debate whether it’s fair to say that Bronny James gets an outsized amount of media coverage just like Tim Tebow did back in the day.
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
All right, let's go here, Sean.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Let's start the day off with the USA men's basketball team, right,
and the players all voted? Is that right, rob G?
They voted the best player is Lebron James on Team USA?
ROBG has the details.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
The Athletic conducted an informal poll of the fifteen camp
participants for Team USA and ask them who they thought
was the best player in their little mini camp that
they've had by a runaway margin five votes, which five
out of fifteen is a lot Lebron James. No one
else received more than two.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And they did Bronny get the vote in this I'm
just asking, okay, he did not.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
And then they also got on the record comments by
a couple of guys who Lebron faced off in that
Team USA scrimmage, the select guys, one of them. I'm
in Thompson about Lebron. I told my brother after the
first day, I was like, dude's forty and he's the
best player on the court. Jabari Smith Junior added, I
feel like Lebron's focus, STEP's focus. People have been around
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to this for a long time. Keeping that focus, still,
keep that hunger. That's what impressed me the most.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Sean King, I'm here to tell you right now that
if Lebron James is the best player on Team USA,
you could forget about a gold medal because that ain't
happening Lebron James. If he's your best player, there's something wrong.
There's something the stinky and Denmark. If I put my
finger on it, I need to watch it. That's how
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bad it is. A forty year old is the best
player on Team USA.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
He's better than Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
He's better than Steph Lebron James, who can only make
the playoffs through the play in with an Anthony Davis
on his squad. That's the guy who's the best player
on Team USA. I want Team Sweden I'm gonna call
for Team Sweden.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'll say this in the USA, I'm out.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
The first thing I thought was okay, Bron took the
USA Select team to dinner and he paid the tab
like it had to be something because just from a
mindset standpoint, like what is wrong with these young guys?
Like to me, these practices should be all about Jason
Tatum and Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Who's about to assume the mantle as the guy?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And this this bothers me, This bothers me to no where.
And not saying that Lebron's not still a great player,
but he wasn't a great player in any of the
highlights so are available to the public. He shot a
flat foot brick from three points in the highlight.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He's but Sean, let's just be can we be real?
He doesn't impact winning the way he used to. And
I'm gonna say this why. I'm gonna say why his
numbers are tremendous, but they don't win like that and
the years gone by. If Lebron was averaging the numbers
that he's put up last year, the Lakers wouldn't be
in no player and they would be vying for the
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division title, and they're not in those races anymore. That's
why I say it doesn't impact winning his numbers.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I just don't get why you have a good opinion
and then you add like this wrong Parker narrative to
it that completely like dissolves your opinion of you can't
say an impact winning Come on, stop it. He might
not be the best player in the National Basketball Association,
which he has been for the majority the best player years.
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I don't believe that vote. Okay, I don't believe that vote,
and I don't know. I don't know why. I just
I think it's the one thing that's missing with some
of the Gen Z athletes is that desire to take
the man on from the establishment. But I'm not I'm
not willing to say that if Bron's the best player
actually that they can't win a goal. But you would
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think that, you know, there'd be some kind of changing
of the guard here.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
There should be a changing of the guard.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I mean, I got you know, with all the older
players that Team USA have, I mean, for real, Sean,
I got some inside information. I have the pregame meal
for Team USA, oh which is which is sodium free bacon,
decaf coffee, and a chestnecks, right. I mean, that's what
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we are. That's where we are, Sean, That's what this
dream team is. It's like the Golden Girls getting back together.
I mean, come on, Sean, that the Lebron, forty year
old Lebron jamis is the best thing we have to offer.
It's like what it's like your grandfather's old Cadillac.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Is that what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
The same going to take shots at Lebron. I don't
minish who and what Lebron is, but I do kind
of have an issue with the fact that none of
the young guys have really grabbed this thing by the horns.
And let's be honest. I mean, Kevin Durant has already
heard he's already low managing the first game against Canada.
When I looked at the roster, that was the one
thing that was kind of alarming, because they do have
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multiple guys, whether it be Embiid, whether it be Ad,
whether it be Kawhi, whether it be k D's ridiculous
of a significant injury history. Do they take extras to
the Olympics in case guys go down that they can
replace them on the roster or that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I don't know. That's a team.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I might, I really might with this team. To be honest, with.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
This team, you might have to have a wet nurse
sitting there or something. You know you don't need help
easily with this team, or at least on the bench
or two of them, because all these guys are banged up,
all of them have injury, most of them have injury issues.
I just I don't know what they're thinking, like like
this has put the band back together one last run.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
We should have been moved on from this.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Really, I mean, too many old guys and Lebron's the
best guy.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Is that where we are?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I don't have to criticize Lebron's this.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's like saying that's like saying that the best TV show.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
It was surprising. It was very surprising, especially after Anthony
Edwards came out and said this was his squad.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I thought he said he was the first option.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I mean, did he get any votes?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Rob g Did Anthony Edwards get any vote? Did he
get a vote from himself? I hope at least one
he got two votes?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I got two, all right? Him and whoever else is
represented by his agent. Those two I.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Could being voted it, but I do feel like, come on, guys.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah Stephan Launch, you don't need a big shot.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
In the face. It's supposed to be the guy that's
telling everybody what the nice restaurants are, like, you know,
like what sits you want to come on cause he's
been a couple Olympics. But I mean, yeah, I'm with you, Rob.
I just still think you take things and you push
the car all the way off the edge of the cliff.
But it doesn't have to Every accident doesn't have to
be fatal. But you just sent me Lebron's great shout
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out to Lebron. But it is alarming that none of
the young guys have imposed their will enough to get
the consensus that it's time for Bron to maybe move
to the side and somebody else. Can it come the
face of it?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Can I give you some I'm gonnaive it, gonna help
you out with it. He doesn't impact winning the same way. Okay,
he just doesn't. Since the bubble the Mickey Mouse Championship
in twenty twenty, it counts, but it still was in Orlando.
That's why I called the Mickey Mouse championship. The Lakers
have a winning percentage of five eighteen, just over five hundred.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Okay, they have.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Been in the playing They've been a playing team three
times and missed the playoff outright the other time. Okay,
that is what you're calling the best player who has
to have the play in. Imagine them, Imagine they're being
no play in. Where Lebron's tenure would be with the Lakers,
which is probably right, one or two playoff appearances in
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that Bubble championship and then you'd have four miss playoffs.
That's incredible for six years. Incredible.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I'm speechless.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
It has to be more to this than we know,
Like Lebron had to pull hevery boy to the side. Listen,
Vegas has already got a ward of the NBA franchise
down the road.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I'm gonna be with that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I'm just saying, it's gotta be like some contingent, Sean's contingency.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You live in Las Vegas, Okay, with all the money
and the big munkety MUCKs there, you think they're gonna let,
seriously a former player grab that franchise in Las Vegas.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, I don't know if he'll be like the ain't
ain't no god, but he'll be a part of the group.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Dude, you're not gonna get in Las Vegas. You know
what the kind of money that those guys have in
those casinos. I mean, we're talking about Bron now, he
ain't got the conceit on money.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'll tell you that kid, You tell me.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
It ain't doesn't hurt that half him as part of
the group.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I'm just talking about. He ain't gonna be the main guy.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Obviously, he's very convincing. He just convinced eleven of the
best alleged players in the world to vote him as
the best of the group, so obviously he still has
a lot of power.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
All Right, I don't know about you get out to
Geralitol when you watch the team USA. It's such a
you know what, And then you might need a cup
of coffee in a sweet role to wash this down
because I'm not expecting anything good if Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I'm not going to allow you to diminish who this
man is. I'm you're not telling you Lebron's current form.
That says old if you didn't know you had played
twenty two years and what his actual age was I
think he's coming up on forty. You wouldn't even use
old as any part of the narrative he watched, Oh yeah,
because he's been there a long time, not because of
how he's playing.
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Speaker 1 (10:58):
He still don't have a contract. They say that they're
far apart or something. I guess, and Sean, I, you
know you brought him up earlier when from Salam was
on and you talked about Tua and you talked about
Dak Prescott and not pay. I agree from one standpoint
with you that I agree you should pay the player,
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not the position.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Just because somebody that the last quarterback was the highest
paid doesn't mean the next contract should be bigger than that.
It should be about what you've done as a player,
your your your numbers, all that kind of stuff. But
in this case here with Miami and Rob G do
we have any more details on how far apart of
this was just a report right that it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Not close yet, and it was talk that they thought
that they would be a deal.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I don't know what else they want for Tua. He's
not he's not Lawrence, he's not six foot five, he's
not he's he He's not going to be that guy.
But man, he stayed healthy last year. We got him,
leaped over a big hurdle. You got to admit that, Sean,
where people weren't sure if this guy could stay healthy
with the concussions. He's put up some tremendous numbers. I
(12:13):
know they had a bad playoff game, and you know,
they faltered against some other teams and it wasn't a
perfect season.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Put up seventy points.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And then probably the best part is some of the
numbers rob G that we talked about when it came
to tour. As far as what he was able to
put up, I think only five other quarterbacks had done it.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Right? Was that the number?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Rob G?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
So the number that's floating around on social media today
because you know, the report came out that the two
sides are far apart. You had a columnist in Miami
say that the Dolphins have quote never had full faith
and belief in Tua. So this stat came out, which
I thought you'd appreciate. Since nineteen eighty. Here's the list
of NFL quarterbacks nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I was sixteen. I remember that very vividly.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Here's the list of haveing quarterbacks who led the NFL
that year in pass yards, yards per attempt, and passer rating.
Dan Marino, Hall of Famer, Peyton Manning, Hall of Famer,
Kurt Warner Hall of Famer, Tom Brady Hall of Famer,
Drew Brees, Hall of Famer, Philip Rivers potentially Hall of Fame. No, No, no,
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and two. I went silent for him for a reason.
To Tungaviloa and Sean play.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
The game you want. You're Miami. You're still looking. They
haven't replaced Dan Marino. They haven't done anything. I mean
the Dolphins when you could think about how long it's
been and Don Shula and the history of that franchise
and whatnot, and you have a quarterback, is he perfect?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
No? Who you got? I don't know what they're waiting on.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I'm not saying he's got to break the bank, but
you gotta sign to I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I disagree. Here's why Brian Flores was so adamant that
you can't win a championship with Tour. That ultimately cost
him his job. You're bringing Mike mcdoniel, who publicly has
said all the right things regarding to her, yet obviously
there's still some form of a disconnect between what the
Dolphins feel like to is worth based on what the
marketplace is at quarterback. Now, when you look at TWOA,
(14:23):
I like too, he's gotten better every year, But again,
he was one concussion removed from potentially never being able
to play again.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
But he stayed healthy last year.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Okay. At the same time, Rob, He's never thrown for
thirty touchdowns in a season. He's thrown for over thirty
five hundred yards once, he's thrown for over four thousand
and one. So it's not like it's a guy that
has multiple years of big time statistics, So why do
I have to pay him the same thing that Joe
Burrow is getting paid, who's taking a team to a
Super Bowl, who has two thirty plus touchdown years, who
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has two four thousand plus passing yard years. That's what
the Dolphins are saying. We like to We're comfortable with
him being our starring quarterback, but we're not going to
fall into this cycle that's starting to happen in the
NFL where just because his contract is up, we have
to pay him on a level that his talent is
a commensurate to being paid on.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And for the people said you can win a super
Bowl with two Okay, Trent dil For won of Super Bowl.
Let me give you some other names. Jeff Hotstedler won
a Super Bowl time mark Rippin won a Super Bowl.
Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl. I was on that tack.
We have four Hall of Famers on the defense. Okay,
but he's still won. I'm that ain't the only where
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you can win, no league. I don't buy into that.
Like I win a Super.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Bowl with a contact. Now that exists, the rule changes.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It's all for God for seventy piece with extra sauce.
A seventy piece.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Sean Payton's karma scored forty of those points.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Okay, that's nice. I just what's your solution.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
It's easy to say, I'm we don't want this guy,
We're gonna replace him.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
The longer you wait, the more it's gonna cost.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And you could go get somebody else and go look
at all these teams that are desperate, desperate to get
a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I'd rather be able to allocate the resources and help
us be great and have elite personnel in other places
than just get caught up in what the quarterback market
is and feel like I'm being forced to overpay for
a quarterback that I know I can really improve upon it.
I don't want this to turn into a knock tool.
That's what it is, because I don't hate on quarterbacks.
(16:32):
You don't know what quarterbacks. I look at things objectively too.
LUs not better than Joe Burrow. So why did the
Dolphins have to pay to a Joe Burrow money.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That is the market, Because to have a quarterback in
this league bad Right now? The quarterback you have no
team talking about all that list the Giants, they can.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Love Daniel Jones. If you make with Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You know what, Yeah you should, but probably a don't
get fired in New York. I think the Dolphins are
offering Daniel Jones type money. What Daniel get one sixty?
I mean he didn't get two thirty.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Last year?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Ta led the league in passing yards forty six hundred
yards while ranking in the top five, and completions, touchdowns
and first downs.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
My god, what do you have to do?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Do I need to part the red seat to get
a deal with the Dolphins?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
No, what I need to do? Do I need?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
But if you want to be paid like Patrick Mahomes
and Joe Burrow and these guys, do it more than once?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
What do you mean doing more than once? He had
him showed me a year.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Everybody thought he was gonna get hurt last year and
he couldn't even complete a year or be healthy all year.
He did that and he performed enough with that, let
me ask you enough with like like payoff.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I'm not saying you gotta be the highest paying players.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
But the market is dictating that he becomes the highest
paid player. That's the whole argument you're around.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
No, it's not. You don't have to do that. No,
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
No, Son, we have a couple of quarterbacks who signed,
who didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Who was the lost each Warnings didn't get the highest
paid at the time.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I think guess he was. He wanted these guys has
been slightly more than a guy in front of them.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
No, no, No, Jared Golf did not get the highest deal.
He got maybe the highest percentage of like his salary,
but not money wise. He's the third highest, and he
was like the last guy to get signed. Sean, it's
not automatic. N Jared Golf have the same amount of
Super Bowls. They both have none.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
No Golf took the Rams to one though No, I
got it. They didn't win it. Tua hadn't sniffed the
title game yet.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Total salary Jared Golf tenth. So don't tell me that
it didn't automatically. And he was the last guy to sign,
so it's not automatic that you have to be in
some top five or number one.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Jared Golf is tenth.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So the Lions they took care of him, but they
didn't go overboard with Jared Golf, and the same thing
with the Dolphins. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying
break the bank for Tua, but I don't know what
is the anative.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Jared Golf has four years. We stones more than four
thousand yards. You talk about how many yards the two
through four. Jared Goff's done that twice. He has two
more years way through for forty five, forty five, seventy
five and forty four thirty eight nights, So he's got
multiple years when he's done with too is done once.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
That's nice, But that plus two to seventy five will
get you on the subway in New York.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I don't know what you want me to do with that.
I'm just saying, I don't blame the Lions. I don't
blame the cowboy I mean not the Lions. I don't
blame the Dolphins. I don't blame the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
All right, rob G, can you give us the salary
structure for quarterbacks? Help us out? Sure?
Speaker 5 (19:29):
So here's the top ten highest paid NFL quarterbacks based
on average annual value, which seems to be the big
sticking point with you guys, because I think you all agree.
You know, the tenth most money that Jared Goff makes
is much different than Trevor Lawrence being the highest paid
average ants. Here's right, here's the top ten. Patrick Mahomes
is number ten, which Rob you've been on the soapbox
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that he is one of the worst contracts.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
One of the worst contracts.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
He had the Chiefs showing over a barrel, okay, after
winning a Super Bowl and the MVP young and he
could have has gotten a fully guaranteed contract when he
signed that half a billion dollar contract. You know how
much money was guaranteed on there, like sixty right, like
sixty million dollars sixty of the half a billion. I mean,
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it was like one of the worst contracts and he
sold himself short. But that's why he's going to be
tenth and he'll never be the highest.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
So that's number ten, Number nine, Kirk Cousins forty five,
another terrible, Rob G. These are average, hoy. Number one, yes, yes, okay.
Number eight Deshaun Watson forty six, thank you, forty six.
What is that gotten the Browns? Nothing?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
But you're asking the Dolphins to make the same kind
of commitment.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Number seven Kyler Murray forty six point one.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Thank you. The two are better than Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Kyler Murray Shaw more than meeting two has. So far,
there's been an individual talent.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
And then this is where it takes a big jump.
Number six Jalen Hurts fifty one.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Number five Lamar Jackson fifty two. Number four Justin Herbert
fifty two point five. Number three Justin Herbert won.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I know everybody loves him as a height and the size,
and he got a strong arm, but they haven't won
much and he took a step back last year.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Number three Jery Goff fifty three, and then tied for
first Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Trevor lawres Hey, Rob g.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Here's the issue that Rob is missing the secret thing
that you just gave us. So the top five guys
are the top five most recent deals. So Ta's agent
is saying, okay, this is the new marketplace. No, and
he's yelling out, but.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Not total money though, But those are.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
But those are the five most recent deals. But that
was looking for that deal.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
No, but that's not that you're talking about the average salary.
But that's not total money. Jared goff is ten. It's
about total money. He ain't about average because they put
it on top of whatever he was already.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
It's about guaranteed money. But I'm just saying, but he
has contract, but those numbers are inflated. I'm just saying
to the numbers Dolphins. Yeah, the Dolphins if obviously decided that, okay,
we're not playing this game.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's what it.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's why they want how many championships in the last
thirty years, how many okay, keep playing that game.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Miami Dolphins teams that fit that in neara.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I'm just saying, but the Dolphins, in their history and whatnot,
where they are as a franchise.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Here's what I'm not gonna lie. That's what I'm can't
criticize the Deshaun Watson contract and didn't tell the Dolphins
that if they feel like they're about to venture into
the same end of the pool to jump in anyway.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It ain't.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Basically, yes, it is that Shawn had done more in
the National Football League statistically than Toua had when he
got that deal.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But he also was coming off of a terrible situation.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
He had that was going on now with the problem
was off the field.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
It was, but still, God blessed Tour. I hope he
plays for a decade more. That concussion thing is still
an issue.
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Speaker 1 (23:09):
Awful Announcing, which is that kind of fan website that
talks about the media, people in the media, moving the jobs,
things that they say, issues, problems, all that stuff. They
compared Bronnie James and Tim Tebow, Rob g.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Kenya let us in on this.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Awful Announcing is taking some shots at the odd couple
over the years, but are spot on.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You know what, can they let Chris let Chris be
I mean.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Let him breathe, let him breathe, guys? All right, So
Awful Announcings. Andrew Buckles wrote a column in the wake
of Bronnie james inauspicious summer League debut.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Here's what he wrote.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
One of the areas in sports that draws the most
comment is when a media organization's coverage of an athlete
seems outsized relative to that athlete's on field impact. This
was seen for many years with Tim Tebow in particular
through his NFL career, but especially his minor.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
League baseball career.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Oh yes, but it's come up with many others as
well since then, the latest example being ESPN's coverage of
Brownie james summer League debut on Saturday. What gets missed
in some of these celebrity stories around sports is that
they do actively alienate some others who want the emphasis
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on the on court product. That's why it's important to
find balance and limit that kind of celebrity coverage.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Spot on the spot on Sean King, it's just up, like,
I get it. I've been in these meetings. Play the hits, everybody,
you know, everybody wants to talk about the Lebron and
Tom Brady and Aaron Ryan.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Like, play the hits and all that.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I get it, But it can be h It can
be frustrating to listen to and hear when it's a beat,
a drum beat for somebody who's not even playing or
doesn't have that much, uh, you know, potential at least
from the from the ants from the beginning, like the
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Tim Tebow playing for the Mets in the Mint of Leagues.
He was not making it to the major leagues. He
just wasn't, But there was a ridiculous amount of coverage
because Tim Tebow moves the needle. Bronnie James moves the needle.
Regardless of how many minutes he plays, he shoot two
for nine, They're still going to push him. And it's
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frustrating as a sports fan, and I think that as
a member of the media.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It drives me crazy. And I'm a part of it.
It drives me crazy. Where are you is?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It's all warranted to just give people what they want
and whoever's the new hotness that that that's all that matters.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I just think you can't ever dictate what the fan
bases are passionate about. I mean, off a year where
Boston beat the Mavericks in the NBA Finals, yet there
are more people interested in what's going on with the
Lakers than there are in what's going on in Boston
or that was just kind of is what it is.
You have these marquee brands, and they're polarizing, and most
of the topics that really generate, you know, attention, whether
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it be listeners, whether it be viewers, are people are
athletes that kind of everybody's kind of split, but they care.
Half the people hate their guts maybe something for no reason.
The other half think they walk on water. And that's
what you kind of get. T Bow that was that
kind of athlete, lebron that's the kind of athlete, BRONI.
That's the kind of athlete.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
That doesn't mean that it doesn't mean that they can't
be covered. But don't give me. I'll give you a
perfect example. I'll never forget it. Tim Tebow has some
awful game, has one hundred and three yards and leads
the the last drive and the field goal kicker kicks
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in eighty nine yard field goal to win the game.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And the camera is on.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Not on the kicker, It's on Tim Tebow till look
what Tim Tebow did.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Like the kicker kicked the field goal to win the game.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
It wasn't like t Bow threw an eighty nine touchdown
or something or some unbelievable drive, and the story wouldn't
be about the kicker who kicked the field goal and
win the game at the end.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
It was about Tebow who.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Had one hundred and three yards and was god awful
for the first three quarters of the game.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
That's what I'm talking about. It ain't I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And the you know what you're talking about, polarizing and
all this stuff. If you want to you want to
watch the news, you could just watch the news and
we could show you every train wreck, every bad thing
that ever happens.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And that's not what the news is supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You're supposed to filter, route and put stuff that's important
based on some merit.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
It just can't be what moves the needles.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
You know what the news would look like, Sean, if
we did that, we could do that. There's plenty of
bad stuff to show people. That's not what the news is.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Listen, the people like what they like.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It's just to the point where the journalist doesn't get
to decide. The john decide, Yeah, you reactive.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
If you ever sat in the newsroom more in a
meeting for the front page of the newspaper or what's
going to lead the news, it ain't like if it bleeds,
it leads let's just put all right, somebody was a
baby fell out the window. This, students were gunned down
in high school. They don't lead the news with that
every day it happens.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you're just being
a little unrealistic.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I'm unrealistic. No, I think it's lazy, lazy by the media.
You're lazy.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
You can write the greatest book ever written in regarding
something sports centric, and if people don't buy it, they
don't buy it. If they go out and buy the
autobiography of John Dailey, you want to hear about him
drinking beer on the golf course, they get to decide
it's just the truth.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And let me tell you why. So you're telling me
that the National Inquiry was better than the New York Times,
I'm not telling you all right, but they saw you copy.
They sold more copies.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
That don't make it.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
If she was a rag, it doesn't mean that it's
better or what people need to read into. And I'm
just saying, Sean, people are lazy. The people who are
in the sports the media are lazy. Let's pick the
same five topics and bang them and beat them to death.
Enough already, all right, and then when you talk about Brady,
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you're not even gonna give us a fair analysis of them.
Well we gotta wait and see. Well, you know he's
a young player. No, he was awful tonight. He was
two for nine. He couldn't hit the side of a barn.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
And think, I think you're being slightly hypocritical, how because
what we should have been talking about on any sports
talk radio show is Brandon Nemo hit another home run.
He's not in the All Star Game. We're what a
week away from the Major League Baseball All Star Game.
But baseball just doesn't drive traffic. We're talking about Lebron
James being voted captain of the USA basketball team because
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that's what people want to listen to.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Sewn.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It ain't wrong now, it's relevant. Baseball is a different
animal because they play one hundred and sixty two games.
If baseball was like football and you had seventeen games,
it would be totally different. I get it one place
for every day for six years. It's never going to
be matched one for one.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
It can't be.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Because it's just like you love ice cream, Sean, guess what,
and then you start working at the ice cream factory
and your love for ice cream will never be the same.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I agree. But at the same time, you have a
great segment you and Chris. You guys do a great job.
It's called trash talking Tuesday. Everybody that called in almost
one hundred percent of We're Talking Basketball, Kings fans were
mad because they're disrespected by Laker fans. Laker fans are
defending the Lakers. Just people like what they like.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Rob That's fine.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
There's no reason Tim Tebow was overblown. It was way
too much. It was over the top. It's the same
thing with Bronny.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I get it. I know it moves the needle, don't
get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That doesn't mean And the one thing I love about
this show, and Rob G knows it when me and
Chris started this show, we refuse to do the same
topics over and over.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
You guys have a great show. You do.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
We won't do it, Rob G.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Did we not say to ourselves we will not do
that because we could get on here every day and
talk about Lebron James and talk about Aaron Rodgers and
back when Tom Brady and do those topics every single day.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And and and take and and take.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
The night off, rob g didn't we We've got We
made a concerted effort not to do that.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Absolutely another concerned effort. If we wanted to get a
guest on and they said you cannot ask me about
X topic, which happened to be a big topic, we
would say thanks, but no thanks.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
We won't have long we won't have him on.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And so all I'm saying, Sean is that the Bronny
coverage will be Now what happens when the season starts
and he's not playing? Are they gonna lead Sports Center
Bronni had the eighteen DMP tonight? What do you think
of that? Is that where we're gonna go? I'm just asking,
as the game started, wouldn't it be the late game.
(32:24):
I don't like to agree with you, but I will
agree with you in this sense. I listened to the
Odd Couple all the time.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
That's why I jumped at the opportunity to fill in
both when you went on vacation and Chris went on vacation,
because you guys actually speak truth. I think sports talk
should be about educating your listeners. I think you should
keep some of the topics current, but You should always
make your listener smarter, and that doesn't always revolve around
the sensationalization of what everyone else is talking.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
About, right, you guys, And that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Especially you, Rob g. I know you're really driving the ship.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Well he's the boss, but but you get My point
is the bron the coverage is just over the top.
Like the Tim Tebow that was really bad. I was
at ESPN during that time, Sean you I think you
were there too at that time, and it was every
five minutes.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Tim Tebow.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Heos was like the perfect storm because you had this
young man that was homeschool that warris Christianity outwardly in public,
that had won us a Heisman. But in some ways
he could play. He was limited because of the position,
like if you just baseline, okay, you got to be this,
this and this. But he won a lot of games
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play in that position as well.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
But got if he really, if people really bought into him.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You remember he went with the Jets And where else
did he go after that?
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Denver?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
He beat the Steelers in the playoffs too. He's a
playoff winn quarterback. Do you remember Do you remember that play?
The only thing I want to say is Dick Lebosa
was a defensive court a Hall of famer, right, and
they had what they have everybody on a.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Lot of scripmers.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
They didn't think he could throw like a eight yard
past Sean go back and look at the defense of
aliven of that.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Hey, here's where I am I right or wrong on that.
I set all that to vacuum into a corner. And
I'm about to use your words against you, Rob Parker,
So I want you to hear this clearly, because you
made one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard
earlier in the show. You said Lebron James does not
impact winning. Well, guess who does. Tim Tebow. T Bow
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may be one of the most five impactful college football
players in history.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
No, No, I'm talking about in the pros. I'm not
talking about his college career. I'm talking about the pros.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
He was a zero. He was a zero.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
He was And if that winning and that win against
Pittsburgh meant anything.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
It did, he would have been Tom Holmes.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
He would have It's one.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Of the losses that people try and use to like
substantiate that Mike Tomlin shouldn't still be the head coach
of the Steelers. At the end of the day, what
t Bow did it Florida When you look back on
that era, that group of guys keeping.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
He only one one championship. He was on the team.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
He was on the team with Chris Leak the first time.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
But I'm just saying, I mean, half that.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Team has turned out to be, you know, not the
best American citizens we've ever had. So from a leadership standpoint,
a loan, just keeping those guys available on Saturdays, like
you're not gonna talk trash about Tim Tembow. He's a
Florida icon.
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
All right, let's go here, Sean.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Let's start the day off with the USA men's basketball team, right,
and the players all voted? Is that right, rob G?
They voted the best player is Lebron James on Team USA?
ROBG has the details.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
The Athletic conducted an informal poll of the fifteen camp
participants for Team USA and ask them who they thought
was the best player in their little mini camp that
they've had by a runaway margin five votes, which five
out of fifteen is a lot Lebron James. No one
else received more than two.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And they did Bronny get the vote in this I'm
just asking, okay, he did not.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
And then they also got on the record comments by
a couple of guys who Lebron faced off in that
Team USA scrimmage, the select guys, one of them. I'm
in Thompson about Lebron. I told my brother after the
first day, I was like, dude's forty and he's the
best player on the court. Jabari Smith Junior added, I
feel like Lebron's focus, STEP's focus. People have been around
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to this for a long time. Keeping that focus, still,
keep that hunger. That's what impressed me the most.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Sean King, I'm here to tell you right now that
if Lebron James is the best player on Team USA,
you could forget about a gold medal because that ain't
happening Lebron James. If he's your best player, there's something wrong.
There's something the stinky and Denmark. If I put my
finger on it, I need to watch it. That's how
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bad it is. A forty year old is the best
player on Team USA.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
He's better than Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
He's better than Steph Lebron James, who can only make
the playoffs through the play in with an Anthony Davis
on his squad. That's the guy who's the best player
on Team USA. I want Team Sweden I'm gonna call
for Team Sweden.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'll say this in the USA, I'm out.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
The first thing I thought was okay, Bron took the
USA Select team to dinner and he paid the tab
like it had to be something because just from a
mindset standpoint, like what is wrong with these young guys?
Like to me, these practices should be all about Jason
Tatum and Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Who's about to assume the mantle as the guy?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And this this bothers me, This bothers me to no where.
And not saying that Lebron's not still a great player,
but he wasn't a great player in any of the
highlights so are available to the public. He shot a
flat foot brick from three points in the highlight.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He's but Sean, let's just be can we be real?
He doesn't impact winning the way he used to. And
I'm gonna say this why. I'm gonna say why his
numbers are tremendous, but they don't win like that and
the years gone by. If Lebron was averaging the numbers
that he's put up last year, the Lakers wouldn't be
in no player and they would be vying for the
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division title, and they're not in those races anymore. That's
why I say it doesn't impact winning his numbers.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I just don't get why you have a good opinion
and then you add like this wrong Parker narrative to
it that completely like dissolves your opinion of you can't
say an impact winning Come on, stop it. He might
not be the best player in the National Basketball Association,
which he has been for the majority the best player years.
(03:58):
I don't believe that vote. Okay, I don't believe that vote,
and I don't know. I don't know why. I just
I think it's the one thing that's missing with some
of the Gen Z athletes is that desire to take
the man on from the establishment. But I'm not I'm
not willing to say that if Bron's the best player
actually that they can't win a goal. But you would
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think that, you know, there'd be some kind of changing
of the guard here.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
There should be a changing of the guard.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I mean, I got you know, with all the older
players that Team USA have, I mean, for real, Sean,
I got some inside information. I have the pregame meal
for Team USA, oh which is which is sodium free bacon,
decaf coffee, and a chestnecks, right. I mean, that's what
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we are. That's where we are, Sean, That's what this
dream team is. It's like the Golden Girls getting back together.
I mean, come on, Sean, that the Lebron, forty year
old Lebron jamis is the best thing we have to offer.
It's like what it's like your grandfather's old Cadillac.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Is that what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
The same going to take shots at Lebron. I don't
minish who and what Lebron is, but I do kind
of have an issue with the fact that none of
the young guys have really grabbed this thing by the horns.
And let's be honest. I mean, Kevin Durant has already
heard he's already low managing the first game against Canada.
When I looked at the roster, that was the one
thing that was kind of alarming, because they do have
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multiple guys, whether it be Embiid, whether it be Ad,
whether it be Kawhi, whether it be k D's ridiculous
of a significant injury history. Do they take extras to
the Olympics in case guys go down that they can
replace them on the roster or that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I don't know. That's a team.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I might, I really might with this team. To be honest, with.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
This team, you might have to have a wet nurse
sitting there or something. You know you don't need help
easily with this team, or at least on the bench
or two of them, because all these guys are banged up,
all of them have injury, most of them have injury issues.
I just I don't know what they're thinking, like like
this has put the band back together one last run.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
We should have been moved on from this.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Really, I mean, too many old guys and Lebron's the
best guy.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Is that where we are?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I don't have to criticize Lebron's this.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's like saying that's like saying that the best TV show.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
It was surprising. It was very surprising, especially after Anthony
Edwards came out and said this was his squad.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I thought he said he was the first option.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I mean, did he get any votes?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Rob g Did Anthony Edwards get any vote? Did he
get a vote from himself? I hope at least one
he got two votes?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I got two, all right? Him and whoever else is
represented by his agent. Those two I.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Could being voted it, but I do feel like, come on, guys.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah Stephan Launch, you don't need a big shot.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
In the face. It's supposed to be the guy that's
telling everybody what the nice restaurants are, like, you know,
like what sits you want to come on cause he's
been a couple Olympics. But I mean, yeah, I'm with you, Rob.
I just still think you take things and you push
the car all the way off the edge of the cliff.
But it doesn't have to Every accident doesn't have to
be fatal. But you just sent me Lebron's great shout
(07:22):
out to Lebron. But it is alarming that none of
the young guys have imposed their will enough to get
the consensus that it's time for Bron to maybe move
to the side and somebody else. Can it come the
face of it?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Can I give you some I'm gonnaive it, gonna help
you out with it. He doesn't impact winning the same way. Okay,
he just doesn't. Since the bubble the Mickey Mouse Championship
in twenty twenty, it counts, but it still was in Orlando.
That's why I called the Mickey Mouse championship. The Lakers
have a winning percentage of five eighteen, just over five hundred.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Okay, they have.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Been in the playing They've been a playing team three
times and missed the playoff outright the other time. Okay,
that is what you're calling the best player who has
to have the play in. Imagine them, Imagine they're being
no play in. Where Lebron's tenure would be with the Lakers,
which is probably right, one or two playoff appearances in
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that Bubble championship and then you'd have four miss playoffs.
That's incredible for six years. Incredible.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I'm speechless.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
It has to be more to this than we know,
Like Lebron had to pull hevery boy to the side. Listen,
Vegas has already got a ward of the NBA franchise
down the road.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I'm gonna be with that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I'm just saying, it's gotta be like some contingent, Sean's contingency.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You live in Las Vegas, Okay, with all the money
and the big munkety MUCKs there, you think they're gonna let,
seriously a former player grab that franchise in Las Vegas.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, I don't know if he'll be like the ain't
ain't no god, but he'll be a part of the group.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Dude, you're not gonna get in Las Vegas. You know
what the kind of money that those guys have in
those casinos. I mean, we're talking about Bron now, he
ain't got the conceit on money.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'll tell you that kid, You tell me.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
It ain't doesn't hurt that half him as part of
the group.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I'm just talking about. He ain't gonna be the main guy.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Obviously, he's very convincing. He just convinced eleven of the
best alleged players in the world to vote him as
the best of the group, so obviously he still has
a lot of power.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
All Right, I don't know about you get out to
Geralitol when you watch the team USA. It's such a
you know what, And then you might need a cup
of coffee in a sweet role to wash this down
because I'm not expecting anything good if Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I'm not going to allow you to diminish who this
man is. I'm you're not telling you Lebron's current form.
That says old if you didn't know you had played
twenty two years and what his actual age was I
think he's coming up on forty. You wouldn't even use
old as any part of the narrative he watched, Oh yeah,
because he's been there a long time, not because of
how he's playing.
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Speaker 1 (10:58):
He still don't have a contract. They say that they're
far apart or something. I guess, and Sean, I, you
know you brought him up earlier when from Salam was
on and you talked about Tua and you talked about
Dak Prescott and not pay. I agree from one standpoint
with you that I agree you should pay the player,
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not the position.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Just because somebody that the last quarterback was the highest
paid doesn't mean the next contract should be bigger than that.
It should be about what you've done as a player,
your your your numbers, all that kind of stuff. But
in this case here with Miami and Rob G do
we have any more details on how far apart of
this was just a report right that it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Not close yet, and it was talk that they thought
that they would be a deal.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I don't know what else they want for Tua. He's
not he's not Lawrence, he's not six foot five, he's
not he's he He's not going to be that guy.
But man, he stayed healthy last year. We got him,
leaped over a big hurdle. You got to admit that, Sean,
where people weren't sure if this guy could stay healthy
with the concussions. He's put up some tremendous numbers. I
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know they had a bad playoff game, and you know,
they faltered against some other teams and it wasn't a
perfect season.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Put up seventy points.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And then probably the best part is some of the
numbers rob G that we talked about when it came
to tour. As far as what he was able to
put up, I think only five other quarterbacks had done it.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Right? Was that the number?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Rob G?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
So the number that's floating around on social media today
because you know, the report came out that the two
sides are far apart. You had a columnist in Miami
say that the Dolphins have quote never had full faith
and belief in Tua. So this stat came out, which
I thought you'd appreciate. Since nineteen eighty. Here's the list
of NFL quarterbacks nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I was sixteen. I remember that very vividly.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Here's the list of haveing quarterbacks who led the NFL
that year in pass yards, yards per attempt, and passer rating.
Dan Marino, Hall of Famer, Peyton Manning, Hall of Famer,
Kurt Warner Hall of Famer, Tom Brady Hall of Famer,
Drew Brees, Hall of Famer, Philip Rivers potentially Hall of Fame. No, No, no,
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and two. I went silent for him for a reason.
To Tungaviloa and Sean play.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
The game you want. You're Miami. You're still looking. They
haven't replaced Dan Marino. They haven't done anything. I mean
the Dolphins when you could think about how long it's
been and Don Shula and the history of that franchise
and whatnot, and you have a quarterback, is he perfect?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
No? Who you got? I don't know what they're waiting on.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I'm not saying he's got to break the bank, but
you gotta sign to I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I disagree. Here's why Brian Flores was so adamant that
you can't win a championship with Tour. That ultimately cost
him his job. You're bringing Mike mcdoniel, who publicly has
said all the right things regarding to her, yet obviously
there's still some form of a disconnect between what the
Dolphins feel like to is worth based on what the
marketplace is at quarterback. Now, when you look at TWOA,
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I like too, he's gotten better every year, But again,
he was one concussion removed from potentially never being able
to play again.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
But he stayed healthy last year.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Okay. At the same time, Rob, He's never thrown for
thirty touchdowns in a season. He's thrown for over thirty
five hundred yards once, he's thrown for over four thousand
and one. So it's not like it's a guy that
has multiple years of big time statistics, So why do
I have to pay him the same thing that Joe
Burrow is getting paid, who's taking a team to a
Super Bowl, who has two thirty plus touchdown years, who
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has two four thousand plus passing yard years. That's what
the Dolphins are saying. We like to We're comfortable with
him being our starring quarterback, but we're not going to
fall into this cycle that's starting to happen in the
NFL where just because his contract is up, we have
to pay him on a level that his talent is
a commensurate to being paid on.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And for the people said you can win a super
Bowl with two Okay, Trent dil For won of Super Bowl.
Let me give you some other names. Jeff Hotstedler won
a Super Bowl time mark Rippin won a Super Bowl.
Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl. I was on that tack.
We have four Hall of Famers on the defense. Okay,
but he's still won. I'm that ain't the only where
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you can win, no league. I don't buy into that.
Like I win a Super.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Bowl with a contact. Now that exists, the rule changes.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It's all for God for seventy piece with extra sauce.
A seventy piece.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Sean Payton's karma scored forty of those points.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Okay, that's nice. I just what's your solution.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
It's easy to say, I'm we don't want this guy,
We're gonna replace him.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
The longer you wait, the more it's gonna cost.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And you could go get somebody else and go look
at all these teams that are desperate, desperate to get
a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I'd rather be able to allocate the resources and help
us be great and have elite personnel in other places
than just get caught up in what the quarterback market
is and feel like I'm being forced to overpay for
a quarterback that I know I can really improve upon it.
I don't want this to turn into a knock tool.
That's what it is, because I don't hate on quarterbacks.
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You don't know what quarterbacks. I look at things objectively too.
LUs not better than Joe Burrow. So why did the
Dolphins have to pay to a Joe Burrow money.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That is the market, Because to have a quarterback in
this league bad Right now? The quarterback you have no
team talking about all that list the Giants, they can.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Love Daniel Jones. If you make with Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You know what, Yeah you should, but probably a don't
get fired in New York. I think the Dolphins are
offering Daniel Jones type money. What Daniel get one sixty?
I mean he didn't get two thirty.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Last year?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Ta led the league in passing yards forty six hundred
yards while ranking in the top five, and completions, touchdowns
and first downs.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
My god, what do you have to do?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Do I need to part the red seat to get
a deal with the Dolphins?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
No, what I need to do? Do I need?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
But if you want to be paid like Patrick Mahomes
and Joe Burrow and these guys, do it more than once?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
What do you mean doing more than once? He had
him showed me a year.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Everybody thought he was gonna get hurt last year and
he couldn't even complete a year or be healthy all year.
He did that and he performed enough with that, let
me ask you enough with like like payoff.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I'm not saying you gotta be the highest paying players.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
But the market is dictating that he becomes the highest
paid player. That's the whole argument you're around.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
No, it's not. You don't have to do that. No,
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
No, Son, we have a couple of quarterbacks who signed,
who didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Who was the lost each Warnings didn't get the highest
paid at the time.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I think guess he was. He wanted these guys has
been slightly more than a guy in front of them.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
No, no, No, Jared Golf did not get the highest deal.
He got maybe the highest percentage of like his salary,
but not money wise. He's the third highest, and he
was like the last guy to get signed. Sean, it's
not automatic. N Jared Golf have the same amount of
Super Bowls. They both have none.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
No Golf took the Rams to one though No, I
got it. They didn't win it. Tua hadn't sniffed the
title game yet.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Total salary Jared Golf tenth. So don't tell me that
it didn't automatically. And he was the last guy to sign,
so it's not automatic that you have to be in
some top five or number one.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Jared Golf is tenth.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So the Lions they took care of him, but they
didn't go overboard with Jared Golf, and the same thing
with the Dolphins. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying
break the bank for Tua, but I don't know what
is the anative.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Jared Golf has four years. We stones more than four
thousand yards. You talk about how many yards the two
through four. Jared Goff's done that twice. He has two
more years way through for forty five, forty five, seventy
five and forty four thirty eight nights, So he's got
multiple years when he's done with too is done once.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
That's nice, But that plus two to seventy five will
get you on the subway in New York.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I don't know what you want me to do with that.
I'm just saying, I don't blame the Lions. I don't
blame the cowboy I mean not the Lions. I don't
blame the Dolphins. I don't blame the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
All right, rob G, can you give us the salary
structure for quarterbacks? Help us out? Sure?
Speaker 5 (19:29):
So here's the top ten highest paid NFL quarterbacks based
on average annual value, which seems to be the big
sticking point with you guys, because I think you all agree.
You know, the tenth most money that Jared Goff makes
is much different than Trevor Lawrence being the highest paid
average ants. Here's right, here's the top ten. Patrick Mahomes
is number ten, which Rob you've been on the soapbox
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that he is one of the worst contracts.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
One of the worst contracts.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
He had the Chiefs showing over a barrel, okay, after
winning a Super Bowl and the MVP young and he
could have has gotten a fully guaranteed contract when he
signed that half a billion dollar contract. You know how
much money was guaranteed on there, like sixty right, like
sixty million dollars sixty of the half a billion. I mean,
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it was like one of the worst contracts and he
sold himself short. But that's why he's going to be
tenth and he'll never be the highest.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
So that's number ten, Number nine, Kirk Cousins forty five,
another terrible, Rob G. These are average, hoy. Number one, yes, yes, okay.
Number eight Deshaun Watson forty six, thank you, forty six.
What is that gotten the Browns? Nothing?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
But you're asking the Dolphins to make the same kind
of commitment.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Number seven Kyler Murray forty six point one.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Thank you. The two are better than Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Kyler Murray Shaw more than meeting two has. So far,
there's been an individual talent.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
And then this is where it takes a big jump.
Number six Jalen Hurts fifty one.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Number five Lamar Jackson fifty two. Number four Justin Herbert
fifty two point five. Number three Justin Herbert won.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I know everybody loves him as a height and the size,
and he got a strong arm, but they haven't won
much and he took a step back last year.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Number three Jery Goff fifty three, and then tied for
first Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Trevor lawres Hey, Rob g.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Here's the issue that Rob is missing the secret thing
that you just gave us. So the top five guys
are the top five most recent deals. So Ta's agent
is saying, okay, this is the new marketplace. No, and
he's yelling out, but.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Not total money though, But those are.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
But those are the five most recent deals. But that
was looking for that deal.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
No, but that's not that you're talking about the average salary.
But that's not total money. Jared goff is ten. It's
about total money. He ain't about average because they put
it on top of whatever he was already.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
It's about guaranteed money. But I'm just saying, but he
has contract, but those numbers are inflated. I'm just saying
to the numbers Dolphins. Yeah, the Dolphins if obviously decided that, okay,
we're not playing this game.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's what it.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's why they want how many championships in the last
thirty years, how many okay, keep playing that game.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Miami Dolphins teams that fit that in neara.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I'm just saying, but the Dolphins, in their history and whatnot,
where they are as a franchise.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Here's what I'm not gonna lie. That's what I'm can't
criticize the Deshaun Watson contract and didn't tell the Dolphins
that if they feel like they're about to venture into
the same end of the pool to jump in anyway.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It ain't.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Basically, yes, it is that Shawn had done more in
the National Football League statistically than Toua had when he
got that deal.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But he also was coming off of a terrible situation.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
He had that was going on now with the problem
was off the field.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
It was, but still, God blessed Tour. I hope he
plays for a decade more. That concussion thing is still
an issue.
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Speaker 1 (23:09):
Awful Announcing, which is that kind of fan website that
talks about the media, people in the media, moving the jobs,
things that they say, issues, problems, all that stuff. They
compared Bronnie James and Tim Tebow, Rob g.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Kenya let us in on this.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Awful Announcing is taking some shots at the odd couple
over the years, but are spot on.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You know what, can they let Chris let Chris be
I mean.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Let him breathe, let him breathe, guys? All right, So
Awful Announcings. Andrew Buckles wrote a column in the wake
of Bronnie james inauspicious summer League debut.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Here's what he wrote.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
One of the areas in sports that draws the most
comment is when a media organization's coverage of an athlete
seems outsized relative to that athlete's on field impact. This
was seen for many years with Tim Tebow in particular
through his NFL career, but especially his minor.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
League baseball career.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Oh yes, but it's come up with many others as
well since then, the latest example being ESPN's coverage of
Brownie james summer League debut on Saturday. What gets missed
in some of these celebrity stories around sports is that
they do actively alienate some others who want the emphasis
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on the on court product. That's why it's important to
find balance and limit that kind of celebrity coverage.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Spot on the spot on Sean King, it's just up, like,
I get it. I've been in these meetings. Play the hits, everybody,
you know, everybody wants to talk about the Lebron and
Tom Brady and Aaron Ryan.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Like, play the hits and all that.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I get it, But it can be h It can
be frustrating to listen to and hear when it's a beat,
a drum beat for somebody who's not even playing or
doesn't have that much, uh, you know, potential at least
from the from the ants from the beginning, like the
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Tim Tebow playing for the Mets in the Mint of Leagues.
He was not making it to the major leagues. He
just wasn't, But there was a ridiculous amount of coverage
because Tim Tebow moves the needle. Bronnie James moves the needle.
Regardless of how many minutes he plays, he shoot two
for nine, They're still going to push him. And it's
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frustrating as a sports fan, and I think that as
a member of the media.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It drives me crazy. And I'm a part of it.
It drives me crazy. Where are you is?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It's all warranted to just give people what they want
and whoever's the new hotness that that that's all that matters.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I just think you can't ever dictate what the fan
bases are passionate about. I mean, off a year where
Boston beat the Mavericks in the NBA Finals, yet there
are more people interested in what's going on with the
Lakers than there are in what's going on in Boston
or that was just kind of is what it is.
You have these marquee brands, and they're polarizing, and most
of the topics that really generate, you know, attention, whether
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it be listeners, whether it be viewers, are people are
athletes that kind of everybody's kind of split, but they care.
Half the people hate their guts maybe something for no reason.
The other half think they walk on water. And that's
what you kind of get. T Bow that was that
kind of athlete, lebron that's the kind of athlete, BRONI.
That's the kind of athlete.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
That doesn't mean that it doesn't mean that they can't
be covered. But don't give me. I'll give you a
perfect example. I'll never forget it. Tim Tebow has some
awful game, has one hundred and three yards and leads
the the last drive and the field goal kicker kicks
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in eighty nine yard field goal to win the game.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And the camera is on.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Not on the kicker, It's on Tim Tebow till look
what Tim Tebow did.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Like the kicker kicked the field goal to win the game.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
It wasn't like t Bow threw an eighty nine touchdown
or something or some unbelievable drive, and the story wouldn't
be about the kicker who kicked the field goal and
win the game at the end.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
It was about Tebow who.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Had one hundred and three yards and was god awful
for the first three quarters of the game.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
That's what I'm talking about. It ain't I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And the you know what you're talking about, polarizing and
all this stuff. If you want to you want to
watch the news, you could just watch the news and
we could show you every train wreck, every bad thing
that ever happens.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And that's not what the news is supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You're supposed to filter, route and put stuff that's important
based on some merit.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
It just can't be what moves the needles.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
You know what the news would look like, Sean, if
we did that, we could do that. There's plenty of
bad stuff to show people. That's not what the news is.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Listen, the people like what they like.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It's just to the point where the journalist doesn't get
to decide. The john decide, Yeah, you reactive.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
If you ever sat in the newsroom more in a
meeting for the front page of the newspaper or what's
going to lead the news, it ain't like if it bleeds,
it leads let's just put all right, somebody was a
baby fell out the window. This, students were gunned down
in high school. They don't lead the news with that
every day it happens.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you're just being
a little unrealistic.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I'm unrealistic. No, I think it's lazy, lazy by the media.
You're lazy.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
You can write the greatest book ever written in regarding
something sports centric, and if people don't buy it, they
don't buy it. If they go out and buy the
autobiography of John Dailey, you want to hear about him
drinking beer on the golf course, they get to decide
it's just the truth.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And let me tell you why. So you're telling me
that the National Inquiry was better than the New York Times,
I'm not telling you all right, but they saw you copy.
They sold more copies.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
That don't make it.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
If she was a rag, it doesn't mean that it's
better or what people need to read into. And I'm
just saying, Sean, people are lazy. The people who are
in the sports the media are lazy. Let's pick the
same five topics and bang them and beat them to death.
Enough already, all right, and then when you talk about Brady,
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you're not even gonna give us a fair analysis of them.
Well we gotta wait and see. Well, you know he's
a young player. No, he was awful tonight. He was
two for nine. He couldn't hit the side of a barn.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
And think, I think you're being slightly hypocritical, how because
what we should have been talking about on any sports
talk radio show is Brandon Nemo hit another home run.
He's not in the All Star Game. We're what a
week away from the Major League Baseball All Star Game.
But baseball just doesn't drive traffic. We're talking about Lebron
James being voted captain of the USA basketball team because
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that's what people want to listen to.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Sewn.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It ain't wrong now, it's relevant. Baseball is a different
animal because they play one hundred and sixty two games.
If baseball was like football and you had seventeen games,
it would be totally different. I get it one place
for every day for six years. It's never going to
be matched one for one.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
It can't be.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Because it's just like you love ice cream, Sean, guess what,
and then you start working at the ice cream factory
and your love for ice cream will never be the same.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I agree. But at the same time, you have a
great segment you and Chris. You guys do a great job.
It's called trash talking Tuesday. Everybody that called in almost
one hundred percent of We're Talking Basketball, Kings fans were
mad because they're disrespected by Laker fans. Laker fans are
defending the Lakers. Just people like what they like.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Rob That's fine.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
There's no reason Tim Tebow was overblown. It was way
too much. It was over the top. It's the same
thing with Bronny.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I get it. I know it moves the needle, don't
get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That doesn't mean And the one thing I love about
this show, and Rob G knows it when me and
Chris started this show, we refuse to do the same
topics over and over.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
You guys have a great show. You do.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
We won't do it, Rob G.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Did we not say to ourselves we will not do
that because we could get on here every day and
talk about Lebron James and talk about Aaron Rodgers and
back when Tom Brady and do those topics every single day.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And and and take and and take.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
The night off, rob g didn't we We've got We
made a concerted effort not to do that.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Absolutely another concerned effort. If we wanted to get a
guest on and they said you cannot ask me about
X topic, which happened to be a big topic, we
would say thanks, but no thanks.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
We won't have long we won't have him on.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And so all I'm saying, Sean is that the Bronny
coverage will be Now what happens when the season starts
and he's not playing? Are they gonna lead Sports Center
Bronni had the eighteen DMP tonight? What do you think
of that? Is that where we're gonna go? I'm just asking,
as the game started, wouldn't it be the late game.
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I don't like to agree with you, but I will
agree with you in this sense. I listened to the
Odd Couple all the time.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
That's why I jumped at the opportunity to fill in
both when you went on vacation and Chris went on vacation,
because you guys actually speak truth. I think sports talk
should be about educating your listeners. I think you should
keep some of the topics current, but You should always
make your listener smarter, and that doesn't always revolve around
the sensationalization of what everyone else is talking.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
About, right, you guys, And that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Especially you, Rob g. I know you're really driving the ship.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Well he's the boss, but but you get My point
is the bron the coverage is just over the top.
Like the Tim Tebow that was really bad. I was
at ESPN during that time, Sean you I think you
were there too at that time, and it was every
five minutes.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Tim Tebow.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Heos was like the perfect storm because you had this
young man that was homeschool that warris Christianity outwardly in public,
that had won us a Heisman. But in some ways
he could play. He was limited because of the position,
like if you just baseline, okay, you got to be this,
this and this. But he won a lot of games
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play in that position as well.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
But got if he really, if people really bought into him.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You remember he went with the Jets And where else
did he go after that?
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Denver?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
He beat the Steelers in the playoffs too. He's a
playoff winn quarterback. Do you remember Do you remember that play?
The only thing I want to say is Dick Lebosa
was a defensive court a Hall of famer, right, and
they had what they have everybody on a.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Lot of scripmers.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
They didn't think he could throw like a eight yard
past Sean go back and look at the defense of
aliven of that.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Hey, here's where I am I right or wrong on that.
I set all that to vacuum into a corner. And
I'm about to use your words against you, Rob Parker,
So I want you to hear this clearly, because you
made one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard
earlier in the show. You said Lebron James does not
impact winning. Well, guess who does. Tim Tebow. T Bow
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may be one of the most five impactful college football
players in history.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
No, No, I'm talking about in the pros. I'm not
talking about his college career. I'm talking about the pros.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
He was a zero. He was a zero.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
He was And if that winning and that win against
Pittsburgh meant anything.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
It did, he would have been Tom Holmes.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
He would have It's one.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Of the losses that people try and use to like
substantiate that Mike Tomlin shouldn't still be the head coach
of the Steelers. At the end of the day, what
t Bow did it Florida When you look back on
that era, that group of guys keeping.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
He only one one championship. He was on the team.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
He was on the team with Chris Leak the first time.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
But I'm just saying, I mean, half that.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Team has turned out to be, you know, not the
best American citizens we've ever had. So from a leadership standpoint,
a loan, just keeping those guys available on Saturdays, like
you're not gonna talk trash about Tim Tembow. He's a
Florida icon.
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