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July 25, 2024 38 mins

FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Andy Furman is in for Chris, and he and Rob tell us if the San Francisco 49ers should worry about paying Brock Purdy before they pay ‘The Pieces’ (LT Trent Williams and WR Brandon Aiyuk), whether or not Aaron Rodgers saying the New York Jets are one of the top-12 teams in the NFL is even headline worthy and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, former NFL agent and CBS Sports NFL analyst Joel Corry swings by to discuss how Purdy factors into the Williams/Aiyuk negotiations, if the Dallas Cowboys can afford to keep both CeeDee Lamb and Dak Prescott, what would have to happen for the NFL to move to an 18-game regular season and much more!

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I mentioned Andy Furman, of course, the legendary radio pronounced

(01:16):
the Cator broadcaster whatever you want to call him.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, I don't know, just to pronounce words pronounced the Cator.
I just made it up on radio. Yeah, I know,
Alex probably just bleeped it to make sure dumped it.
Uh yeah, And.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Coming up in the program, Joel Corey, the former NFL
agent and CBS NFL analyst. He'll be joining us Andy
in about twenty seven minutes or so on our our
number two. Antonio Daniels, of course, the NBA Champ Series
XM NBA radio host and New Orleans Pelicans color analyst.

(01:51):
He will be by in our number two and uh
so we do have and don't forget in the third hour,
Tyson Tower of Trivia. The only reason people listen to
this program on a Thursday, not for me, Andy, not
for you, not for the TV themes, but for Tyshirt's

(02:12):
Tower of Trivia. And speaking of mister Tyshirt, let's bring
in the odd couple crew because we wouldn't be able
to do this fine radio program without them. Rob g
of course is our producer, and of course Alex Tyshert
the engineer as always, Steve de Segers at the anchor desk.
He'll keep us updated throughout the program. And of course

(02:35):
Elijah Elijah is our social media guru, one of the
best in the business. And let me welcome in none
other than Andy Furman. How are you, mister Furman?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
It seems like I've just seen you. I mean, you
were in town recently, and though it was great scene
catching up with.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
You as always as always?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Can I say, guy, when I come to Cincinnati and
we can't get together all the time, sometimes you're out,
you're doing something or whatever.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
But Andy, I always call.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
You am I right, I always reach out and I
love nothing more. I only spent two years in Cincinnati,
but I have a bond there with the people, don't I.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Andy.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Everybody loves you. I mean when you come to Cincinnati
a Psychoholiday. I mean, the crowd that we had at
that lunch that day is like bigger than my family,
it really is it. It's huge, really, and you know,
my home's always open to you. But you'll never stay
with me.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
But that's all.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I gotta stay with you.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
One They got to check out the ponderosa and see
how big this spread is. But no, you know what,
when I came in at lunch, Andy, it was about
ten or twelve of us.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
It was great.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
All guys I've known, and I worked in Cincinnati in
nineteen ninety one, ninety two, not like ten years ago,
five years ago, A long time ago. And you guys
treat me great every time I come.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
So I'm ranks. So because you know you're you're remember it.
I mean you're a great columnist. I mean people know
Rob Parker the talk show host, but the written word,
the written word, I mean that's where you started. And
you are trumenous this year and down.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
All right, we got a lot to talk about, and
of course let's start with the NFL and you know
the forty nine ers and Rob G. We want to
bring you into forty nine ers. You know, they got
issues because they don't want to pay certain players. I
who wants a new deal, wants to be traded because
he's not going to be paid. They have other people

(04:23):
they need to pay. But of course it all centers
around the quarterback brock Purty, who needs to get paid.
I believe Rob G after next year, correct, after this PAS.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
That is correct.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
Brock Perty because of his draft slot, is not eligible
for an extension till after this upcoming season. However, there
has been scuttle butt both on the national and local
media that, because of their current situation and because of
the way the quarterback market is shaping up, that brock
Purty could be in line for a fifty five to

(04:58):
sixty million dollars a year tracks and as a result,
that looming extension again not until after this upcoming season,
is playing a big role in these current negotiations with
Brandon Ayuk who is holding in which whatever that means,
and All Pro left tackle Trent Williams, who is holding

(05:18):
out because he wants a new deal.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
So there you go, Andy, I mean, and then I
guess I'm gonna start with you with me, Yes, with you?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Okay, okay, fine, let's do it there.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Radio, here's a question to you. Yeah, do you pay
the pieces before you pay Purdy? The pieces? Which are
these other players who have made up the forty nine
ers who were Andy good before brock Purty got there.
I just want to remind people that they did go
to the Super Bowl before brock Purty got there. Or

(05:55):
do you pay pay brock Purty? Because in the NFL
it's all about the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Where are you on?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
If you're the forty nine ers, you're making other guys
unhappy in order to make sure that you can sign
your quarterback.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
This is specifically for the San Francisco forty nine ers.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
And you touched second.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Okay, they are in a win now mode. Must win
this year because they were in a seven year plan
and last year with a four of the last five
years they were in the NFC Championship Game. They lost
twice in the Super Bowl to Kansas City. They don't
have pieces. They got thoroughbreds. They got thoroughbreds. And this
is a tremendous question, and I'm glad I don't have

(06:32):
to be the guy that makes the decision, because it's
gonna be the GM.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
John Lynch is gonna make that decision.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
I look at rock Perty, this guy at thirty one touchdowns,
eleven I nts and pass roll for forty two hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Tremendous numbers.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
But were the numbers there because of guys in front
of him, Guys like Deebo Samuel, guys eye you, guys
like George Kittle to tight end. Are those the guys
that did it? I mean right now, yes, he is
due to make something like nine and eighty five thousand
bucks this year because of the system.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Will you pay him now?

Speaker 5 (07:04):
I don't know. I mean, here's the deal. I mean
there's no leverage. I mean, can they win without Brock
Party has brock Purty made those guys or have those
guys those Thoroughbridges made brock Party.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
That's the question I have.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
And I tell you right now, I pay the pieces
before I paid brock Party.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
You know what, Andy, I don't think you're that far off,
because they've been good already. They were good with Jimmy Garoppolo,
remember right, They've been good with other quarterbacks in that system.
And it doesn't mean that Jimmy Garoppolo still doesn't have
to perform or or you know, brings value or talent

(07:43):
to the table. But you got to start to really
look at that team and wonder how much of it
is really brock Purty. And do you remember when they
struggled rob g I can't remember. A couple of their
offensive weapons were out, and that's where they went into
that funk. Because before that, I don't think he had
lost the game. You remember he was off to like

(08:05):
eleven or twelve and oh start and then brock Purdy
played three games.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Andy, I'm gonna give it to you, okay.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
He played three games last season without debo with alt
Trent Williams. He went oh and three, three touchdowns and
five picks. There's your number. Those are the pieces parts?
Is it about the pieces or is it about the quarterback?
And and I think it's a tough call because Andy,

(08:35):
where are we in the NFL today? Is a quarterback league?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (08:39):
It's a quarterback league because of twofold number one, because
you don't win. If you look at the teams that
have not made the playoffs last year, they didn't have
the first round, right, So it's because quarterback league was
you got to.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Pay him and you don't win without him.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
But if I'm the forty nine Ers and you want
to ask me point blank right now, the MVP in
that team is Christian McCaffrey. He's their MVP in both
the run of the pass game. He unlocks everything on
the offense for them. Christian McCaffrey is the guy on
the forty nine ers rock party. Yeah, he's long as
he doesn't turn the bull over and does what he
has to do in that system, they will win. You're right,

(09:11):
Garoppolo won with him and the one with anybody else.
You went with a guy who's the last guy picked
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Draft, right, irrelevant? Miss irrelevant?

Speaker 4 (09:21):
And and and I think that's why for despite his
numbers despite what he's been able to accomplish. You know,
there were a lot of people still wasn't buying into
brock Party. He went in that conversation. You remember the
Christmas night game when Baltimore came to town and undressed
him and brock Party, what do you have?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Three or four? Should have had four picks? I think
one way three. I think yeah, right, one.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Was dropped and he looked like mister irrelevant that night
against that Ravens defense. And he did engineer to come
back against the Lions, although Dan Campbell helped him along,
you know, and and and and helped the forty nine
ers in that that was a preussive comeback down big
at home in the NFC Championship game, and they wind
up you know, getting there and going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
But I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
I think the pieces in this case are bigger and
are better. And it doesn't mean that brock Perty can't
be paid. But I'm with you, win now next year?
Are you worried about paying somebody next year if they
win the Super Bowl this year? By taking care of
the guys who have been good to them, Andy, I
don't care who the quarterback is next.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Time with you. No, I'll go watch that further. These
pieces are so good, These thoroughbreds are so good. I
will tell you right now they can win without Brandon Ayuc.
That's how good I mean. Brandon Ayok to me has
no leverage because if they should let it go, if
they do trade him, which I don't think they will.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
If they won't, I get that.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
But the point is if he were to go, if
they did trade him, I still believe there's enough talent
there with George Kittle and McCaffrey and Ricky Peerceell and
these guys Jennings.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
I think that they could still win without Ayuk.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, I mean they have something going. They haven't been
able to win the big game. And uh they they've
struggled when it comes down to it, because they could
have easily won two Super Bowls. I mean they melted
down twice right in two Super Bowls in the fourth
quarter where they had leads. And so you know, Kyle Shanahan,

(11:27):
for as much as people say he's a genius, is a.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Terrible, terrible closer as a coach. Look at the numbers. Yeah,
gambles too much gets away.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
I don't mean I don't mean Pete Rose gambling. I
mean no, no with decisions of the game.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
But also goes away from and And I know he
wasn't the head coach, but he cost.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
The Falcons that Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
If you remember that, the offensive coordinator Julio Jones made
a great catch on third down, Andy to set up
first and ten at to twenty two, they were up
by eight. You're at the twenty two, Andy, what do
you need? A field goal?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Right right?

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Field goal gives you an eleven point lead. Tom Brady
can't beat you. Go back and rewatch that game. Kyle
Shanahan has passing plays, there's a holding ten yards, there's
a sack for another seventeen yards.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
All of a sudden, you're out of field goal range.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
All they had to do was run the ball straight
ahead three times, eat up as much of the play
clock right, Let it run down the one or two seconds,
and you kick the field goal.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
You're up by eleven. They win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Right, and you talk about the pieces. Right now, Let's
talk about some of these pieces. They got the All
Pro left tackle Turn Williams. He's holding out get like
something like thirty one million. He's getting right the wide
receiver Deebo. Samuel's like twenty eight mil.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
All right.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
They got six guys out there that have contracts this
year that average at least nineteen to twenty million dollars
a year.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
It's amazing, it really is.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
And those guys should be paid.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
I'm no doubt they're saying, my god, if you can't
pay us now, you will never get paid.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
And we used to see that.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
With the Patriots, where they wouldn't pay guys, use them
up andy and then never may And I'll.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Tell you something else. I think there's something that we
don't talk about. Maybe our guests at the bottom of
the hour can help us out here. Money's great, and
you're talking about money, but I think that you could
have created a divide in that locker room if you
don't pay these guys, and that creates major problems on
the field.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
That's the problem.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
All right.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
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If you're the forty nine ers, would you rather pay
Purty or the pieces? We'll continue that conversation with you.

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(15:45):
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
And we're talking about the forty.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Nine ers and they're trying to pay which players do
you pay.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Party?

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Or do you pay the pieces like Williams and I
whuk and guys like that. What would you do on Andy?
I know people want to jump in right now.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
All right, here we go Randy in New Orleans on
what did god? Randy?

Speaker 9 (16:09):
How y'all doing this? Even, gentlemen?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Doing great? How about you, buddy, I'm doing well.

Speaker 9 (16:14):
It's good to hear from you, gentlemen, you too on
this TV theme song? Thursday Cheers has a great theme song,
by the way, I just wanted to throw that out there,
no doubt to answer your question, The forty nine ers
to me have all the pieces, so you got to
continue to pay the pieces. They have all the pieces
that you need to make a quarterback look great, But

(16:37):
that doesn't mean he's great.

Speaker 10 (16:38):
Right, Rock Party.

Speaker 9 (16:39):
Had walked into a situation where he was all set
up for success. He had a great left tackle, really
good weapons on the outside. They added a great running back,
and they have a great tight end. All Rock Party
has to do is make reeves and not turn the
ball over. And that's what he's done for the most
part so far. Right opinion, gentlemen, I'll say this in

(17:02):
our clues. He's not worthing those sixty million dollars, He's not.
I think that you continue to pay the players and
you continue to just build off of what they've already
been doing even before brock got there. I appreciate you, gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yep, you know what for the call.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
He may not be worth sixty mili, but that's the
going rate of the quarterback situation. So that's the problem
we get into. May not be worth it, but he's
probably gonna get it eventually.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
No, I mean, it's just it's the name and when
you pay Daniel Jones with the Giants paid him, I
don't know how you.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Could what what leg do you have to stand on?

Speaker 5 (17:37):
Andy Jones could have been a start with the forty
nine ers, He could have done what brock perty's doing.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, maybe you're right.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
Why see Andre Andre in Massachusetts? You're on the odd couple.
What do you got Andre?

Speaker 11 (17:50):
How you doing?

Speaker 10 (17:51):
Thanks for taking the call. It's no question in my mind.
Forty nine they need to give some attention to paying
these pieces, particularly Brandon Au, who, by the way, leads
this team in receiving yards and it's central to their offense.
And everything they do. Listen, This is a cat classic
case of Belichickism, whereas forty nine ers don't get ahead
of yourself thinking that brock Party, mister irrelevant is some

(18:14):
top ten talent. You know, this guy with the freakish ability,
who we need to prioritize him over the system.

Speaker 9 (18:20):
He is a system.

Speaker 10 (18:22):
Quarterback, but by every single definition. So I'm a little
bit surprised if this situation where a you has reached
kind of duskcon five levels. He's the one that needs
to be brought into the fold and just kind of
respected and feeling like he belongs and all the rest
of that stuff. Whereas Rock Purty, Okay, you're a worker,
you're a grinder. Honestly, you're a rich man's rudy rudiger.

(18:44):
How is we're going to put all sorts of resources
into this person and not prioritize our You can't. My
point is you cannot just replace an auk. You cannot
just replace the kittles. Obviously, they need Christian MacCaffrey to
get to this point. So if the piece is more
than party, and if the forty nine ers need to
get off their hard line and start doing some customer

(19:06):
service and not customer service need to start bringing their
guys in and helping them feel respected and appreciated before
this thing falls apart. Thanks taking the call.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
You know, Rubbie makes a great point.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
And I've seen some lists of top ten quarterbacks and
I don't look at these lists.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
I rip them up. I don't pay any attention to it.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
But I've seen Rock Party on these lists and top
ten quarterbacks of the NFL ahead of a Dak Prescott,
which which blows me away.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
It blows me.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
I mean, I don't think they're in the same breadth
and not in the same league. But Doc Prescott gets
no respect, no respect, and Rock Party has been ranked
ahead of him in several lists that I've seen.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yeah, I mean, I get it. It's hard to It's
like a combination. Andy, you see a team winning and
Rock purty his numbers were good. You know, it's hard
to argue. But I think the issue that most people
have is it seems like whoever you prop or PLoP

(20:02):
into this system has success, right, So the pieces right,
that's why you go, Well, if I had all these pieces,
I would be good too. Or like you said, Daniel
Jones might be a ten time better quarterback with all
of these pieces if he didn't have to, you know,
do as much as he can.

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Speaker 2 (20:33):
All right, Steve, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
It is the odd couple on a TV theme song Thursday,
Rob Parker along with Andy Furman and for Chris Bussardo's
on Vacation, coming to you live from the tire Rack
dot com studios. Now, let's welcome in to the program
Joel Corey, the former NFL agent and now CBS Sports
NFL analyst.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Joel, how are you say? Hi to Andy Furman?

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Joel doing great.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Let's go to the Bay and the forty nine ers
and talk about the situation that they're in. Brandan Ayuk
and Trent Williams looking for new contracts.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Maybe the forty nine ers all taking their time.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
They need to pay Brock Perdy after this season next year?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
What do you do? We just pose a question, do
you pay the pieces or do you pay Perdy?

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Well?

Speaker 11 (21:24):
Ayuk is his favorite target. He led the team in
targets past two years, so he is their de facto
number one receiver, even though they have eternal weapons. The
wide receiver market is well defined, so this shouldn't be
a hard deal to do if you want them around.
I've always thought this is an either or proposition. Either

(21:47):
brand Ayuk or Deebo Samuel will be there on a
long term basis, and particularly after they drafted Ricky Pursol
in the first round. Now get into Trent Williams. The
problem of his deal is he's older, but he hasn't
slowing down, and the way it struts, he's got this
huge blue payment in twenty twenty six. It's fight you

(22:11):
over thirty three million. They're no guarantees left, so maybe
he shifts some money upwards from twenty six to twenty
five guarantee twenty twenty five since he isn't slowing down
and is still arguing the best left tackle in football,
and GOP from narrows him.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Joe, let me ask you this. Brandon Ayuk.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Okay, he had a career high over thirteen hundred receiving
guards last year, and I got to ask you who
has the leverage the forty nine ers or Ayk because
I believe that the forty nine ers could win even
without Brandon Ayuk.

Speaker 11 (22:44):
Forty nine ers have leverage in this case, but I
wouldn't discount his importance to that team because he's really
a vertical threat. And also he is really the guy
that Purty looks to. So if you want to maximize
the quarterback you may want to have by, you're not
gonna put up the type of statue with some place
else on that team. Of all the weapons, George Kittle

(23:07):
used to hold the record for the most receiving yards
of a tight end. He has at sniffed coming close
to that record ever since. They've improved all the offensive
skill position talent on that team, So you have to
take that in consideration of value.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Let's go here.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Roger Goodell has anybody who would listen. He's told, we
want eighteen regular season games, we'll lose another exhibition game.
We understand why the real games make the league money.
The exhibition games do nothing. There's a local TV, they
don't make any money. They can't sell those anywhere. But

(23:46):
if you're the players, and I think the players' union
is by far the worst union in the history of
the United States, the NFL players association with the deals
that they've done. Would they be smart to say, sure,
we'll do an eighteenth game, but we need lifetime healthcare
and a better pension plan from the NFL to get

(24:06):
this done. Like the NFL wants it, are the players
willing to stand up to them to be able to
get something out of it other than less practices and
the right to smoke weed, which doesn't cost the NFL
any money.

Speaker 11 (24:21):
I don't have a high degree confidence that the NFLPA
is going to get serious or substantial concessions for the
eighteenth game. One thing the former exec director Demorris Smith
did was in terms of an eighteenth game, or at
least passing for a seventeenth game, it was like, this
is not going to happen. My constiuency. Constituency does not

(24:44):
want it. That's not the case for the eighteenth game.
You got guys like Joe Burrow who are coming out
and saying, oh, eighteenth game is cool, just give you another
bye week. That's not helpful. You have to take a
hard line stance initially, and they're not presenting that. Even
the executive to Lord Howell's been like, yeah, we'll look
at the eighteenth game, So yeah, I agree with you.

(25:05):
It should be an improved revenue split, lifetime healthcare because
the NFL keeps whip service the players safety, particularly when
they're talking about adding more games, and they don't have
grass surfaces everywhere. So those would the two things I
would want. I don't want to eliminate the funding rule
in the CBA where we have to put future guarantees

(25:25):
in escrow, because that's an impediment to fully guaranteed contracts.
There are other things which I don't think you really
have a prayer in getting any type of making hid
headway on, like the franchise tag eliminating that they could.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
But Joel, I'll push back on this.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
I think the players have tremendous They have poor leadership,
but they have tremendous power. And until you're willing to
stop the game, okay and let the owners know, we'll
stop the cash cow, and we'll stop it until you
guys to the table and give us some things. There's
no reason that show Hail Tany can sign a seven

(26:06):
hundred million dollar contract where all the money's guaranteed and
he has lifetime. All you need to play is one
day in the Major League to have healthcare one day
in the big leagues, like, there's just no reason. But
if you're not willing to stop the games, then you're
not going to get anything.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
But they have the players have the leverage, they're the sport.

Speaker 11 (26:27):
They don't have the leverage because they're not willing to
do that. We saw in twenty eleven they would miss
one preseason game at least the NBA players when there
had been workstop. Is is even if you go back
to nineteen ninety nine, although the owners got what they
wanted the salary maximums, it was a shortened season, and
then I think twenty twelve maybe or eleven, I forget
which year it was a shortened season. NFL players aren't

(26:50):
willing to do that. Owners know that. Until players decide
or owners take that seriously, that threat of a substantial
workstop is in. They're only going to get so much.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
All right, Let's talk Joel to talk on the field
with the Dallas Cowboys. They got some problems here with money.
You got cde Lamb's wanting money, Michael Parson wants somebody.
But let's talk about that quarterback Dak Prescott, whos thirty
years of age. He's entering his final year of his contract,
he's going to play for under fifty five mili in
that salary cut figure. I don't understand in this lead
that you can't win without a quarterback, and Dak Prescott

(27:24):
is a proven quarterback. So one of the options that
Cowboys have if they don't sign the.

Speaker 11 (27:29):
Guy, hit the reset button. Now, what I really want
to see is Dak Prescott will not get a contract
this year, have a really good year this year, and
then hit the open market because I'd love to see
a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback in his prime hit the

(27:49):
open market, because I think we would be shocked at
the type of deal he could get, because that never happens.
A healthy Pro Bowl quarterback in his prime hit the
open market never happens. But Dallas has a unique approach
to contracts. Most teams, if they know their guys that
they want to keep, they try to lock them up

(28:09):
as soon as the reason be practical. This team does
not do that. They drag their feet from crastinate. That's
why they're in a position they're in. Ceedee Lamb is
holding out. Dak Prescott could become an understickted free agent
after the year, and then Michael Parsons that you have
little more time on that one because he's in and
he's going into the fourth year of his contract, and

(28:31):
they has to fit their option next year. But still,
the longer you wait to sign and get the great
players and more skintastis no doubt.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Our guest is Joel Corey, former NFL agent and of
course with CBS Sports as an NFL analyst. Joel, let
me ask you about Jordan Love. Excuse me, Jordan Love.
He's doing a soft holdout again. He's he's going to
the meetings, he's at camp.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
He's just not going to hit the field. He wants
a new contract. Jordan Love. They've had him for four years.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
They've know his work ethic, they know what he's done,
They've watched his every practice.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
What's the hold up here? If he's the guy who
they believe in, why are they the sooner you signed
the guy?

Speaker 4 (29:15):
They probably could have got him, Joel cheaper had they
signed him before the season started last year right and
just took a flyer, it would have been a lot
cheaper than waiting to see the guy have a great
second half and win a playoff game, and then boom,
you have to pay more.

Speaker 11 (29:32):
No, there's no way you're doing to deal last year
with him because there's no guarantee they would have picked
up the fifth year option because he'd never really played.
Now that being said, he had a phenomenal second half
of the year was are you believe the best quarterback
in the last part of the regular season, and then
knocked off the Cowboys in the playoffs, outplayed Dak Prescott
that game. This deal is gonna get done. It's just

(29:54):
a question of whether he's the highest paid quarterback in
the league or comes in below that. One thing Green
Bay is done for Aaron Rodgers, which I assume they're
going to do for him, is get traditional salary guarantees
if they are pushing back on guarantees. And I gave
brother Green Bay Packer besides Aaron Rodgers. And I understand
why this isn't getting done, but I expect this to

(30:15):
be done in the next week to ten days. This
will be just a book on the radar screen.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Let me run this vibe because he used the term holdout.
This's makes me crazy because the last two days of
Cincinnati Bengals practice, Jamar Chase came there, but he didn't
practice he was a practice but he didn't practice. He's
holding out. T Higgins was smart enough to say, look,
it ain't going to work. I'm going to go out
there and practice and see what I could get this
year and go out in the market next year. Why
do these players continue to hold out when it doesn't
make any sense?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Explain that to me. You are an agent, Well, there's.

Speaker 11 (30:44):
The hold in, which is what Love is doing, what
i UK is doing, and what Chase seems to be doing.
You're trying to avoid a fine. And for guys who
are playing on the rookie contract, that's forty thousand dollars
per day for each day if training can't missed, and
it's forgivable for those guys.

Speaker 10 (31:01):
For those guys, for Trot.

Speaker 11 (31:02):
Williams is fifty thousand dollars per day, which is not forgivable.
Sometimes that's the only pressure you have to put on
a team to get something done. When I was an agent,
I did have a couple of guys who went to
rely Pe holdouts and Jimmy Smith and Keenan McCardell, one
more successful.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Than the other one.

Speaker 11 (31:19):
But you see guys come into camp Nowaday used to
avoid the fine and indo duty hold in the holdouts
he saw with Nick Bosa last year very effective became
High State nine quarterback, although is right before the regular
season started.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
Zach Martin last.

Speaker 11 (31:35):
Year held out, got his contract readjusted. Chris Jones very
expensive hold out cost him over two million dollars in
a game. Check. So yeah, look at the team who
you're dealing with and make that as a part of
your equation if you're going to hold out.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yep, it is crazy, but a lot of that is
the way that the Players Association has handcuffed the players
with some these terrible deals, franchise.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Tags and whatnot. I hate it all, I really do it.
But thanks for the inside Joel, Joel Corey. That's right.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Check them out CBS Sports, NFL analysts and the former
NFL agent.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
We appreciate you. Thank you, Joel, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
All right, Aaron Rodgers is doing a lot of talking,
but is he actually saying anything?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
That's the question. We'll explain that next.

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(33:25):
Sounds like a great deal. You know what, Andy is
now time for Shekel City.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Welcome to Shekel City, the whole base for Rob Parker's
day Dix against the Sprat.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
All right, a light Shekel City obviously on a Thursday, Andy,
all the games of play getaway Day or during the
day one leg game that's gonna happen in Anaheim Angels
hosting the A's that takes place at nine.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
To thirty eight Eastern pitch.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Let's go with the Angels plus one and a half
runs at home taking on the Oakland A's again, only
game left, Angels plus one and a half runs against
the Oakland A's. And remember, Andy, I'm not telling you
who to bet on. I'm telling you who I bet on.

(34:22):
Really pretty simple, all right.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Andy, let's go here.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Aaron Rodgers Rob G said that the Jets are what
one of the top eight to twelve teams?

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Is that?

Speaker 6 (34:35):
With the number, he said, they are one of eight
to twelve teams in the NFL who could win the
Super Bowl this upcoming season.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
And Andy, here's my thing. Eight to twelve is that
like a big net. I mean, that's like mediocre twelve. Really,
the twelve teams had a chance to win the Super Bowl.
I don't believe there's twelve teen. I don't I think
there's twelve. But I'll tell you what I think. The
Jets are a possibility to win the Super Bowl with
their defense.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
The defense w the.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Best in the National Football They got okay, but then
you just say they're in the top four, Well, I
mean it kind of gives him some breathing room.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
No, but that's My point is that you didn't say anything,
say you're a mediocre top like, oh, we're one of
the top twelve teams in the top twelve, say it,
say it with your chest out, stick your chest out.
We have a really good defense. And if you have
we had no quarterback play the last two years. Correct,
they still won seven games with our quarterback play. And

(35:29):
now you put a future Hall of Fame quarterback. He
doesn't have to be a four time MVP good. He
just needs to be a good quarterback.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
Don't you think I agree? But I tell you what
he needs to do. He needs to play. I mean,
stop talking and get on the field in practice with
these guys.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
He's on the field now. They said he went through
everything during the year.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I mean, I think it comes down when you're Aaron Rodgers,
it's about performance. You can sit around and talk about
everything you want, don't say anything whatever. The only way
people are going to judge Aaron Rodgers. Andy's BIA's performance
during the season last year four snaps. Well, you know
what I mean, it was a shame.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
I mean, you don't want to see that happened to anybody,
You really don't.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
And that was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
And you know what, I don't know if you remember
before the season started, I said that the Jets would
wind up being the Mets. You remember the Mets had
signed two aging pitchers and they both got hurt and
the season went bye bye. And did I think Aaron
Rodgers was gonna get hurt on four snaps?

Speaker 7 (36:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (36:28):
But it did happen, it sure did, you know?

Speaker 5 (36:33):
But you look at the schedule. That's another fact that
they got six games that are in prime time. I
think that throws off the players kind of equally bat
me if you were at times and they got a
game I think against the Vikings in Europe, so that
that's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
It's tough. I mean, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
A regular schedule every Sunday at one o'clock Eastern's off.
But when you got the six prime time the shorter
practice weeks, and it's just a tough situation. They've got
to stay healthy, that's what you gotta do. But the
defense is doing something else. I look at that division
AFC East, they're gonna win it. They're gonna win the
AFC East. I just think the Patriots will finished last.
The Dolphins. I got problems with the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I really do that. Bill's Stefon Diggs. That's a big loss.
And the Jets what I think.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
I would take Miami or the Jets in that division
before Buffalo. And I'm not convinced totally that it's gonna
be the Jets.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm not. I think they have a good shot. But
I like Miami. I don't like Buffalo. I don't like
all the changes that went through. We knew things before
they got rid of Stefan Diggs. There was issues. Remember
last year, And there's.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
One positive that people really aren't toylet on they talk
about with Buffalo is they lost to Stephan Diggs. Remember
last year they won seven of the last nine, And
how do they do that? They changed the new offensive
coordinated with Joe Brady. That was a big difference. So
we'll see if Breddy makes a difference with Gabe Davis
as the receiver replacing Stefan Diggs with their quarterback Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, it'll be interesting. And I don't know.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
And their window in Buffalo has it coming gone already?
You know how it is in the NFL trending down.
They are definitely trending down. And I know that they
finished strong last year but then got knocked out in
the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
I don't feel the same way I thought at one point.
If you go back to those thirteen seconds when they
just Scrib kicked that ball in Kansas City and they
gave Patrick Mahomes a chance to throw like like to
this day, you want to talk about some bonehead coaching
that's boning Scrib the ball and he cut off eight seconds? Right,
What are you doing? I don't even understand.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's panicking. That's what it means.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Our number two of the odd couples coming up, stick.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
And stay, which I was supposed to stay that.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah you are No, I didn't know my line, you know,
really yeah no, no, no, you're stay. You like that
sticking Stay is the word of the day.
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