July 25, 2024 • 32 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Andy Furman is in for Chris, and he and Rob tell us if the San Francisco 49ers should worry about paying Brock Purdy before they pay ‘The Pieces’ (LT Trent Williams and WR Brandon Aiyuk), explain why Lincoln Riley’s latest comments about the Notre Dame rivalry prove that college football is selling its soul and debate whether Steph Curry should feel obligated to play out the rest of his career with the Golden State Warriors.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Let's start with the NFL and you know the forty
nine ers and Rob G. We want to bring you
into forty nine ers. You know, they got issues because
they don't want to pay certain players who wants a
new deal, wants to be traded because he's not going
to be paid. They have other people they need to pay,
but of course it all centers around the quarterback brock Purty,
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who needs to get paid. I believe Rob G after
next year, correct, after this pass. That is correct.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Brock Perty because of his draft slot, is not eligible
for an extension till after this upcoming season. However, there
has been scuttle butt both on the national and local
media that because of their current situation and because of
the way the quarterback market is shaping up that brock
perty could be in line for a fifty five to
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sixty million dollars a year contract, and as a result,
that looming extension again not until after this upcoming season,
is playing a big role in these current negotiations with
Brandon Aiyuk who is holding in which whatever that means,
and All Pro left tackle Trent Williams, who is holding
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out because he wants a new deal.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So there you go, Andy, I mean, and then I
guess I'm gonna start with you, with me, Yes, with you?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Okay, okay, fine, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Radio. Here's a question to you. Yeah, do you pay
the pieces before you pay Party? The pieces? Which are
these other players who have made up the forty nine
ers who were Andy good before brock Purty got there.
I just want to remind people that they did go
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to the super Bowl before brock Purty got there. Or
do you pay pay brock party? Because in the NFL it's.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
All about the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Where are you on? If you're the forty nine ers,
you're making other guys unhappy in order to make sure
that you can sign your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
This is specifically for the San Francisco forty nine ers
and you touched U. Okay, they are in a win
now mode. Must win this year because they were in
a seven year plan and last year with a four
of the last five years they were in the NFC
Championship Game. They lost twice in the Super Bowl to
Kansas City. They don't have pieces. They got thoroughbreds. They
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got thorough breds. And this is a tremendous question, and
I'm glad I don't have to be the guy that
makes the decision. It's gonna be the GM. John Lynch
is gonna make that decision. I look at Rock Party.
This guy at thirty one touchdowns, eleven I nts and
pass roll for forty two hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Tremendous numbers.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
But were the numbers there because of guys in front
of him, Guys like Deebo Samuel, guys eye you, guys
like George Kittle to tight end. Are those the guys
that did it? I mean right now, yes, he is
due to make something like nine dred and eighty five
thousand bucks this year because of the system.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Will you pay him now?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I don't know. I mean, here's the deal. I mean,
there's no leverage. I mean, can they win without brock Party.
Has brock Purty made those guys or are those guys
those Thoroughbreds made brock Party. That's the question I have.
And I tell you right.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now, I pay the pieces before I pay Rock Party.
You know what, Andy, I don't think you're that far off,
because they've been good already. They were good with Jimmy Garoppolo,
remember right, They've been good with other quarterbacks in that system.
And it doesn't mean that Jimmy Garoppolo still doesn't have
to perform or or you know, brings value or talent
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to the table. But you got to start to really
look at that team and wonder how much of it
is really brock Purty. And do you remember when they
struggled rob g I can't remember. A couple of their
offensive weapons were out, and that's when they went into
that funk. Because before that, I don't think he had
lost the game. You remember he was off to like
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eleven or twelve and oh start and then brock Purty
played three games. Andy, I'm gonna give it to you, okay.
He played three games last season without Debo, without Trent Williams.
He went oho and three, three touchdowns and five picks,
there's your numbers. Those are the pieces parts. Is it
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about the pieces or is it about the quarterback? And uh,
And I think it's a tough call because where are
we the NFL today is a quarterback league? Correct?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
It's a quarterback league because of twofold number one, because
you don't win. If you look at the teams that
have not made the playoffs last year, they didn't have
the first ree, right, So it's because quarterback league was
you got to pay him and you don't win without him.
But if i'm the forty nine Ers, you want to
ask me point blank right now, the MVP in that
team is Christian McCaffrey. He's their MVP in both the
run in the pass game. He unlocks everything on the
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offense for them. Christian McCaffrey is the guy on the
forty nine ers rock party. Yeah. He as long as
he doesn't turn the ball over and does what he
has to do in that system, they will win. You're right,
Garoppolo won with him and they'll win with anybody else.
You went with a guy who's the last guy picked
in the NFL drafts, That tell.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Elevant irrelevant And and I think that's why for despite
his numbers, despite what he's been able to accomplish, you know,
there were a lot of people still wasn't buying in
the Rock Party. He went in that conversation. You remember
the Christmas night game when Baltimore came to town and
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undressed him and Brock Purty, what do you have three
or four? Should have had four picks?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I think one would have three.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I think right one was dropped and he looked like
mister irrelevant that night against that Ravens defense. And he
did engineer to come back against the Lions, although Dan
Campbell helped him along, you know, and and and and
helped the forty nine ers in that that was an
impressive comeback down big at home in the NFC Championship game,
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and they wind up you know, getting there and and
going to the Super Bowl. But I'm with you. I
think the pieces in this case are bigger and are better.
And it doesn't mean that Brock Party can't be paid.
But I'm with you, when now next year, are you
worried about paying somebody next year if they win the
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Super Bowl this year? By taking care of the guys
who have been good to them, Andy, I don't care
who the quarterback is next.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Year with you No, I'll what's that. Further, these pieces
are so good, these storbuds are so good. I will
tell you right now. They can win without Brandon Ayuck.
That's how good.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Brandon Ayuk to me has no leverage because if they
should let it go, if they do trade him, which
I don't think they will. If they won't, I get that,
But the point is if he would to go, if
they did trade him, I still believe there's enough talent
there with George Kittle and McCaffrey and Ricky Pearcell and
these guys Jennings, I think they could still win without Ayuk.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, I mean they have something going. They haven't been
able to win the big game, and they've struggled when
it comes down to it because they could have easily
won two Super Bowls. I mean they melted down twice
right in two Super Bowls in the fourth quarter where
they had leads. And so you know, Kyle Shanahan, for
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as much as people say he's a genius, is a terrible,
terrible closer as a coach. Can't look at the numbers. Yeah,
gamble too much gets away.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I don't mean I don't mean Pete Rose gambling. I
mean no, no, no, with decisions of the game, but
also goes.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Away from and I know he wasn't the head coach,
but he cost the Falcons a Super Bowl if you
remember that, right with the offensive coordinator Julio Jones made
a great catch on third down, Andy to set up
first and ten at the twenty two they were up
by eight. You're at the twenty two, Andy, what do
you need? A field goal? Right right? Field goal gives
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you an eleven point lead. Tom Brady can't beat you.
Go back and rewatch that game. Kyle Shanahan has passing plays,
there's a holding ten yards, there's a sack for another
seventeen yards. All of a sudden, you're out of field
goal range. All they had to do was run the
ball straight ahead three times, eat up as much of
the play clock right, Let it run down the one
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or two seconds, and you kick the field goal. You're
up by eleven. They win the Super Bowl? Right? Are
you talking about the pieces? Right now?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Let's talk about some of these pieces. They got the
All Pro left tackle Turn Williams. He's holding out get
like something like thirty one million. He's getting right, the
wide receiver Deebo Samuel like twenty eight mil. All right,
they got six guys out there that have contracts this
year that average at least nineteen to twenty million dollars
a year.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's amazing, it really is. And those guys should be paid.
Doubt they're saying, my god, if you can't pay us now,
you will never get paid. And we used to see
that with the Patriots, where they wouldn't pay guys, use
them up andy and then never get a man.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
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that we don't talk about. Maybe our guest at the
bottom of the hour can help us out here. Money's great,
and you talk about money, but I think that you
could have created a divide in that locker room if
they don't pay these guys, and that creates major problems
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Speaker 1 (11:03):
College football has gone bananas, and not in a good way.
It is it has sold out everything, sold its soul.
Let's have teams from the West coast play in the
Midwest and play in the Big Ten. Whatever they want
to do. They just don't care. They've wrecked traditions, they've
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wrecked rivalries. Andy, anything goes because television is paying money.
And I mean, I don't if you're a college football fan.
And Andy, we grew up in New York, no.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
College football, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
But we've lived all over and you know that there's
certain Ray lived in Michigan for twenty years of Michigan,
Ohio State all that kind of stuff, and how much
people are into college football. You know, lived all over
in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I lived in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Jeez, you know, right, you know what that's all about. Yeah,
but here, Lincoln Riley just knocked my socks off today.
I mean this comment, which basically I want you to
hear this and then we'll discuss. I would love to.
I would love to.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
I know, I know it means you know a lot
to a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And so the again, the purest in you, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Now, if you get in a position where you got
to make a decision on what's best for SC to
help us win a national championship versus keeping that shoot,
then you got to look at it. I mean, and listen,
we're not the first example of that. Look all the
way across the country, there's been a lot of other
teams sacrifice rivalry games. I'm not saying that's what's going
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to happen, but you know, as we get into this
playoff structure and if it changes not we in this
new conference, like, we're going to learn some about this
as we go and what the right and the best
track is, you know, to winning a national championship.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And what he said, Andy was he would be willing
to forego the rivalry, would Notre Dame for a chance
to win a national championship. Can you imagine Notre Dame
in USC not playing Andy. There is one thing that
college football has that I think that the powers that
be are trampling over, and that's tradition.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
You know, you have games that hold on Thorp.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Oh Man, and tradition is important to me. I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I mean the backyard barnstorming games of the Penn State,
West Virginia games, the rivalries. How many rivalries are there
right now? There's Ohio State Michigan with I have to
play during the same league. And you got what Army Navy.
First of all, did this guy coaching USC? Lincoln Riley
is a fool. He's a fool. And the fact that
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he talked about it tells me he's probably gonna do it.
That's number one. Number two. With more games, more team's
invited to postseason tournament play this year, to have twelve teams,
you can afford a second loss.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Maybe even the third.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So play it for the alumni's sake, for the school's sake,
for college football's sake, USC has to play, not your dame.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And for him to even talk about that.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Is a disgrace to the school, to the program, after
college football in general. And if I was the athletic
director of the USC, I'm calling him in my office
and say, look, coach the game, shut your mouth.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm handling the schedule now.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
You isn't Lincoln Riley the same clown who didn't talk
to the media after several losses last year? Rightly, right,
But now he's doing some talking. Now he's talking.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'm with you. And if you're don't that robery date
back to the twenties and the nineteen twenty.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I think nineteen twenty six, I believe so.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, yeah, think about that, Andy, that you see how
Philippy was, Well, if it means they have a Jams
and Winter Nagiel Jam will do whatever it takes what
Notre Dame? Hell with it. I know people wouldn't like it,
but the hell with Notre Dame really like usc Notre
Dame wouldn't mean jack to them. It is unbelievable, Andy,
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Why is everything for sale? And why are people so
quick to sell everything? Can I tell you this?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I love the Yankees and the Dodgers for two reasons. No,
for one reason I should. I love both of those
teams for one reason. Where do they play Yankee Stadium
and Dodger Stadium? Andy? Tell me the Yankees and the
Dodgers couldn't get a gazillion dollars from an American Express or
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some big company to rename their stadiums.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
You're exactly right. They didn't sell their soul, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
But they don't leave They left money on the table,
didn't they? The Yankee Stadium could be American Express Stadium. Tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You're exactly right. You know what college football has done.
They've defined jury mandering at its best. They've basically what
they do. You got teams from the West Coast playing
in the ACC. The whole thing is screwed up. It's crazy.
But they did it for one reason, and one reason
only gelt the Green Cabbage money. When you have a problem,
we have a question to ask. In sports, it always
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reverts back to the money, and you hit it on
the head with the TV money. It's all about the money.
But the game is going south now. It's going so
it's crazy. Every space is sold, every name on the field,
every signage. It's ridiculous. It's crazy. And there's more games,
there's more teams. The twelve teams are getting into the
tournament right now. And again you could tell us to
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Lincoln Riley, you can lose two or three games and
still get into that tournament. You can.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
But that's where we are. It's been dumbing down right.
Put everybody in. Let's make it as mortgage board. Andy.
Can we talk about how bad the college football playoffs
has been with four teams? How many great games have
you seen? Andy? Because I haven't seen many they're usually blowouts.
They're terrible games leading up to the championship game, and
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the championship.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Game anticipation trophies. You're giving out the participation trophies. That's
what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I mean, I don't get it, but I tell you,
I'd like to see the feedback and the pushback the
fans and the alums at USC are going to be
doing in the next forty eight hours and what he
has said today. I want to see what happens there.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
You got.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
I want to see what Not Your Dame has to say.
I mean, really, Marcus Freeman, the coach of not today,
he's got to come out and say, wait a minute,
this is a tremendous rivalry that has to be played.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Where's Not Your Dame on this? They gotta have a statement? Yeah,
it is amazing. And even not There're Dame. They've always
had their own television NBC television contract and deals, so
they've always been ahead of the curve on this, and
that's why they didn't want to be in any conference.
They're making their own money. Hand over fist, we got it.
They have a big following nationally, right, they travel well.
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Notre Dame's always been in that, But I cannot get
over where we are in college football. And I don't
know how anybody is loving this or think this is
great like that, As you said, these schools were two
and three losses that are going to go to the championship.
And then who was it the Nebraska coach Matt Ruhle
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who just said did you hear this Andy the other
day that the Big Tension automatically have four teams in
the in the Yeah, automatically, as if you don't have
to play for anything. Well, we're a big conference. We
have all these schools, so we should have four entries
no matter what into the college football.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And they're saying that, you know why, to protect their
career ends for their job. That's why they do because
there's so much pressure on these guys to win right now.
That's why Lincoln Raley system they live like you know.
He already canceled at the Old Miss game. USC is
supposed to play Ole Miss this year or next year,
and he said the game was canceled, but he said
it was in the works. He canceled that he's full
of it. He canceled he didn't want to play Old Miss.
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He didn't.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
It is. It's amazing and the fans have no recourse.
This is all they have. If you're in one of
these college towns, Andy, what do you have? You look
forward to write five six saturdays in the fall, that's
all you have. Come on, dudelet's so we get.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
To see more of the big time schools playing like
Alabama does when they play Austin p when they played
the minor schools, the Division one Double A schools. Is
that what they're gonna do now the fat in their
schedule and get wins? Is that what they're doing right now?
I don't know what's the watch and they're gonna go
in big time.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I was up at the Big House at Michigan the
early part of the schedule where they've had their record play
some terrible schools, right right, people got to pay to
go see that. People are walking streaming out by halftime.
Just just a waste of time and energy. Right And
now along with that, you would you would put up
for that to be able to have your rivalry games
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and things that matter. And now that's all being stripped
away from college football fans for the almighty dollar. When
is enough enough? Why does everything have to be for sale.
I just can't. Everything, Andy, everything is for sale. Why
not sell a position on the team. Let some rich
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kid pay three million dollars to be a walk on
at Alabama?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Is that? Is that? So some rich dad? Is that next?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Why not? I mean, we got we got we got
ninety kids, right, forty who don't even see the field.
Why not put them on the team three million dollars.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You covered sports for a while, did you ever live
to see the day of dream that we'd see nil,
that players would get paid?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I just I think they deserve to get paid.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
But I think that what they did, they didn't realize
what the gates, that they open the floodgates because you
stop what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I do considering what they've done, I mean, and how
it came about. But again, if the colleges they want
to control nil, right Andy, but they're not paying. The
colleges still refuse to pay. How can you legislate something
you're not dishing out, you're not hitting the hire money.
They have hired people, They have.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Hired staffers to go out there and bang on the
doors of alums and businesses to pay these kids. But
they won't pay them.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
They won't pay them. If they would have paid them
and figured out a system, it would be totally different.
But they refuse to pay them. They want to use
the kids up, use their bodies, use their playing ability
to make money off these kids.
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Speaker 1 (21:56):
Steph Curry and we talked about a little bit if
you weren't listening early with Antonio Daniels about Steph Curry
saying that if the Warriors become bottom feeders, maybe he'll
move on and Rob g he was talking to Mark
Spears from ESPN and Anscape, right, friend of the show. Yeah, absolutely,
Mark is someone I helped mentor when he first started.
(22:18):
If you could believe that in this career crazy, But anyway,
you have the quote, Rob Gi. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
So Mark spoke to him at a long form piece
and during the conversation he asked Steph. He said, Hey,
you saw the type of lackluster teams that Kobe and
Dirk had into their careers. Should we be assumed that
you'd be fine with just anyone during the rest of
your career playing solely for the Warriors. And Steph started
out like you'd expect. He said, Hey, at this stage
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in my career, I always felt like he was possible
to be a Warrior for life. And he goes on
and on, and then he says, this is where he
kind of puts it from his mouth. I'll continue to
make the decisions that are best for me and for
my career. At the end of the day, when it
comes to just the imagination, I want to win. Let's
put it this way. It's a long winded way of
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saying that. If it is a situation where you're a
bottom feeder and it's just because you want to stay there,
I'd have a hard time with that.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
But I don't think that's going.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
To be the reality.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Wow, I just Andy, I'll say this, and I'm not saying.
If you remember the end of Kobe's career, Rob g
correct me if I'm wrong. The Lakers didn't make the
playoffs his last five years. Is that correct? It's like
five or six years, Andy, the last they didn't make
the playoffs. Part of it was people didn't want to
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come play with Kobe. Nobody ever wants to talk about it.
Robb g Am I speaking out of turn. No, not necessarily, No,
nobody wants to come play with him. Dwight Howard Andy
left thirty million dollars on the table to go to
Houston to get away from Kobe. You think he wants
that money now, thirty million to leave LA And my
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point here is it's okay that you're not title contenders
or you're not they don't have a maybe all the
way legitimate shot to win. I don't understand it. Derek
Jeter played twenty full season for the New York Yankees.
Their last championship was two thousand and nine. Andy, he
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retired in twenty fourteen. Five years they didn't win, right,
is at the end of the do you look at
Derek Jeter anything? Oh my god, the last five years
he didn't win. Kobe the last five or six years,
didn't make the playoffs. Do you think that? So people
will tell you Kobe's the goat, he's better than Michael
and Lebron. They don't say, well, he didn't even make
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the playoffs the last five.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
But things change. And let me get an example. I
can switch sports for a second. Things change because people
are worried about. Athletes are worried about their legacy when
they retire their last stop.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
What would they like?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
All right, I'll give you an example of football. Dan
Marino and Eli Manning. Eli Manning won two Super Bowls.
Dan Marino never won any, but the way they worshiped
Eli Mining. Right now, Eli Minning couldn't shine Dan Marino's shoes.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Asked, if you ask most people who's the better quarterback,
ninety nine percent will say Dann Marino. Okay, And I
get it. I would hope, I would hope they would.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Marino was the godfather of the forward pass in the
National Football League.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
And so I get that.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
But there were people, even without a championship for Dan Marino,
were saying that he was their goat. He was the
most prolific. This guy was unbelievable. Second year they went
to the Super Bowl, he threw fifty touchdown. This isn't
like now where they throwing every down Andy. This was
a different brand of football. He was that great. Okay,
but it doesn't negate how great Dan Marino was. And
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Steph won four championship, correct, then you can't take that
away from him, even if he finishes out his career
and the last four years the Warriors don't win. I
just don't understand that. If he goes to another team
and they don't win the last four years, what does
that mean? Does that changes? Does that change anything? If
he were to go but you know, Lakers, and then
they don't lose, they don't win the championship.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
For we're trying to go back in history and look back,
look back in history and maybe think Michael.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Jordan went to Washington, they didn't make the playoffs his
last two years.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
You're right, But you know what, maybe the more things change,
maybe the more they stayed the same. I'll give you
an example. I'm going way back in time because I
love basketball, and I'll go back to the days when
Bill Russell Pett against Wilt Chamberlain. Will Chamberlin has never
considered when they talk about the greatest players of all
time in the NBA. His name is never mentioned, never mentioned.
Guy average fifty points a game one year? All right,
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Will Chamberlain may have been the most dominant player ever
to put on a uniform in the NBA. Never mentioned why?
Because how many championships did he win in sixty seventy
won a championship with the seventy six ers, right, I mean,
other than that, he was dominated all the time by
Bill Russell, and Bill Russell to me was a great player.
But it's almost like what we talked about with the
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San Francisco forty nine ers. He had great thoroughbreds with
him on that team. He had the Jones boys. He
had all those guys, Casey and Sam Jones. He had
Jim Loscatov, He had Tommy Hinsen, you name of me
had him on Tom Sanders. They had great players on
those Celtic teams. You know, maybe maybe Chamberlain didn't, but
to me, Chamberlain was dominant, and he if they ever
have a mount Rushmore in the NBA, he has to
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be on that mountain.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
There's no there's no there's no doubt, there's no there's
no doubt. I'm sorry, I don't know what happened to
dump uh Andy. There's no that was crazy, There's no doubt.
But I do think that people are so caught up
in this thing like it's a birthright, like you have
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to be in there in the mix or to hunt.
That's what you've seen Lebron James destroy franchises by giving
up young players, right, because he's got to be in
the mix. That doesn't. That hasn't helped Lebron. They made
all the moves. He still has his four championships, right,
He's about to play season number twenty. Lebron could play
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twenty four seasons if he doesn't win. How does that?
He won his four championship, the leading scorer of all time.
What are you gonna take away from him?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I don't know, but I think what you remember him by?
He when he ends his career, when one ends a career.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Michael Jordan ended his career on a sad note. Washington Wizards.
He's still twenty a game, I know, but but but
they didn't even make the play half the league makes
the playoffs. Andy and a team Michael Jordan and four
other guys couldn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Not even about that, right, But he has that burning
desire that many of these players don't have. And I'll
give you an example. We talk about the contracts that
people in the NFL right now, they're sitting out. They
want more money. To me, it tells me they'd rather
have money more so than championships. I don't know if
it's the ego because player X on one team at
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the same position makes more money than he does, that's
why they want the money.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
But to me, back in the day, it was all
about winning. You sacrifice the paycheck maybe for a championship.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You know who did that?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Tom Brady. Tom Brady did it, didn't he He sacrifices
his salary. But really, the only thing I'm gonna do, Brady,
I'm sorry, I'm saw that all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
But here's my thing. His wife a made more money
than him, but be the Patriots didn't use the money
for players. The reason people celebrate Tom Brady that he
didn't have anybody to throw to that the guy was
working at Dunkin Donuts and then he became a receiver
for the Patriots. They let all the great defensive players
that helped him win those championships go without getting paid.
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Tom Brady didn't help those teammates by doing that. Go
look at the Patriots for the last decade. They spent
less money with free agents and whatnot than any other team.
So he saved the money and they didn't spend it.
That's why I can't laud that because they didn't do
right by Tom Brady by him saving the money. My point, though,
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is still Steph Curry would be crazy to leave the Warriors.
His legacy is about his longevity there, what he was
able to do, the championships, what he means to the city.
Why put on some other teams uniform. He doesn't need
to do that. Derek Jeter didn't do it. Tom Brady
should have stayed in New England his whole career. He
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didn't need to do that, even though he wound up
getting that other championship with Tampa Bay. Tom Brady's one
of those guys. Derk Novinsky, what he played twenty one
years in Dallas, I think that that's stronger. That tells
me a lot there. But we've seen that Stephen Curry's
one of those iconic players that shouldn't just be hopping around.
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You brought up Kevin Durant earlier. Kevin Durants are no
mad I mean, think about it. Kevin Durant could go
into the Hall of Fame. If they had to put
a uniform on him, they would have to put him
in rags because there's too many different colors and different teams.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
You're exactly right. But the point is this is that happened.
What about Joe Montana. How many people remember the fact
that he ended his career in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I get that, but that wasn't his choice though, It's
not what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
But he could have said, but he could have packed
it and say, look, I'm not going anywhere else. If
that's the way he wanted, I'm gonna end my career
right here.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
But he got so played and helped him get to
the AFC Championship Game, so he still had something in
the tank. It's just that they had other quarterbacks who
were ready to play. And I get that. But but
if you remember Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
John refused, he refused to he retired, right.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He didn't, by the way, anybody else's uniform.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Right. His wife, Rachel, turned one hundred and two on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
She's unbelievable and she looks she's great, great, she looks
like she's fifty all right, eight seven seven ninety nine.
On Fox, we do want to hear from you. We
will give you some extra time if you want to
jump in. You haven't.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
This is good. This is a good topic because they
could go on, because I'd like to see Steph go
into the Hall of Fame with one jersey on the
Golden State, four championships there, and an NBA MVP Trophy
all in Golden State.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That's where you made you keep, that's where you're known.
Stayed out.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Let's start with the NFL and you know the forty
nine ers and Rob G. We want to bring you
into forty nine ers. You know, they got issues because
they don't want to pay certain players who wants a
new deal, wants to be traded because he's not going
to be paid. They have other people they need to pay,
but of course it all centers around the quarterback brock Purty,
(00:53):
who needs to get paid. I believe Rob G after
next year, correct, after this pass. That is correct.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Brock Perty because of his draft slot, is not eligible
for an extension till after this upcoming season. However, there
has been scuttle butt both on the national and local
media that because of their current situation and because of
the way the quarterback market is shaping up that brock
perty could be in line for a fifty five to
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sixty million dollars a year contract, and as a result,
that looming extension again not until after this upcoming season,
is playing a big role in these current negotiations with
Brandon Aiyuk who is holding in which whatever that means,
and All Pro left tackle Trent Williams, who is holding
(01:43):
out because he wants a new deal.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So there you go, Andy, I mean, and then I
guess I'm gonna start with you, with me, Yes, with you?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Okay, okay, fine, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Radio. Here's a question to you. Yeah, do you pay
the pieces before you pay Party? The pieces? Which are
these other players who have made up the forty nine
ers who were Andy good before brock Purty got there.
I just want to remind people that they did go
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to the super Bowl before brock Purty got there. Or
do you pay pay brock party? Because in the NFL it's.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
All about the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Where are you on? If you're the forty nine ers,
you're making other guys unhappy in order to make sure
that you can sign your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
This is specifically for the San Francisco forty nine ers
and you touched U. Okay, they are in a win
now mode. Must win this year because they were in
a seven year plan and last year with a four
of the last five years they were in the NFC
Championship Game. They lost twice in the Super Bowl to
Kansas City. They don't have pieces. They got thoroughbreds. They
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got thorough breds. And this is a tremendous question, and
I'm glad I don't have to be the guy that
makes the decision. It's gonna be the GM. John Lynch
is gonna make that decision. I look at Rock Party.
This guy at thirty one touchdowns, eleven I nts and
pass roll for forty two hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Tremendous numbers.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
But were the numbers there because of guys in front
of him, Guys like Deebo Samuel, guys eye you, guys
like George Kittle to tight end. Are those the guys
that did it? I mean right now, yes, he is
due to make something like nine dred and eighty five
thousand bucks this year because of the system.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Will you pay him now?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I don't know. I mean, here's the deal. I mean,
there's no leverage. I mean, can they win without brock Party.
Has brock Purty made those guys or are those guys
those Thoroughbreds made brock Party. That's the question I have.
And I tell you right.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now, I pay the pieces before I pay Rock Party.
You know what, Andy, I don't think you're that far off,
because they've been good already. They were good with Jimmy Garoppolo,
remember right, They've been good with other quarterbacks in that system.
And it doesn't mean that Jimmy Garoppolo still doesn't have
to perform or or you know, brings value or talent
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to the table. But you got to start to really
look at that team and wonder how much of it
is really brock Purty. And do you remember when they
struggled rob g I can't remember. A couple of their
offensive weapons were out, and that's when they went into
that funk. Because before that, I don't think he had
lost the game. You remember he was off to like
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eleven or twelve and oh start and then brock Purty
played three games. Andy, I'm gonna give it to you, okay.
He played three games last season without Debo, without Trent Williams.
He went oho and three, three touchdowns and five picks,
there's your numbers. Those are the pieces parts. Is it
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about the pieces or is it about the quarterback? And uh,
And I think it's a tough call because where are
we the NFL today is a quarterback league? Correct?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
It's a quarterback league because of twofold number one, because
you don't win. If you look at the teams that
have not made the playoffs last year, they didn't have
the first ree, right, So it's because quarterback league was
you got to pay him and you don't win without him.
But if i'm the forty nine Ers, you want to
ask me point blank right now, the MVP in that
team is Christian McCaffrey. He's their MVP in both the
run in the pass game. He unlocks everything on the
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offense for them. Christian McCaffrey is the guy on the
forty nine ers rock party. Yeah. He as long as
he doesn't turn the ball over and does what he
has to do in that system, they will win. You're right,
Garoppolo won with him and they'll win with anybody else.
You went with a guy who's the last guy picked
in the NFL drafts, That tell.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Elevant irrelevant And and I think that's why for despite
his numbers, despite what he's been able to accomplish, you know,
there were a lot of people still wasn't buying in
the Rock Party. He went in that conversation. You remember
the Christmas night game when Baltimore came to town and
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undressed him and Brock Purty, what do you have three
or four? Should have had four picks?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I think one would have three.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I think right one was dropped and he looked like
mister irrelevant that night against that Ravens defense. And he
did engineer to come back against the Lions, although Dan
Campbell helped him along, you know, and and and and
helped the forty nine ers in that that was an
impressive comeback down big at home in the NFC Championship game,
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and they wind up you know, getting there and and
going to the Super Bowl. But I'm with you. I
think the pieces in this case are bigger and are better.
And it doesn't mean that Brock Party can't be paid.
But I'm with you, when now next year, are you
worried about paying somebody next year if they win the
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Super Bowl this year? By taking care of the guys
who have been good to them, Andy, I don't care
who the quarterback is next.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Year with you No, I'll what's that. Further, these pieces
are so good, these storbuds are so good. I will
tell you right now. They can win without Brandon Ayuck.
That's how good.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Brandon Ayuk to me has no leverage because if they
should let it go, if they do trade him, which
I don't think they will. If they won't, I get that,
But the point is if he would to go, if
they did trade him, I still believe there's enough talent
there with George Kittle and McCaffrey and Ricky Pearcell and
these guys Jennings, I think they could still win without Ayuk.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, I mean they have something going. They haven't been
able to win the big game, and they've struggled when
it comes down to it because they could have easily
won two Super Bowls. I mean they melted down twice
right in two Super Bowls in the fourth quarter where
they had leads. And so you know, Kyle Shanahan, for
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as much as people say he's a genius, is a terrible,
terrible closer as a coach. Can't look at the numbers. Yeah,
gamble too much gets away.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I don't mean I don't mean Pete Rose gambling. I
mean no, no, no, with decisions of the game, but
also goes.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Away from and I know he wasn't the head coach,
but he cost the Falcons a Super Bowl if you
remember that, right with the offensive coordinator Julio Jones made
a great catch on third down, Andy to set up
first and ten at the twenty two they were up
by eight. You're at the twenty two, Andy, what do
you need? A field goal? Right right? Field goal gives
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you an eleven point lead. Tom Brady can't beat you.
Go back and rewatch that game. Kyle Shanahan has passing plays,
there's a holding ten yards, there's a sack for another
seventeen yards. All of a sudden, you're out of field
goal range. All they had to do was run the
ball straight ahead three times, eat up as much of
the play clock right, Let it run down the one
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or two seconds, and you kick the field goal. You're
up by eleven. They win the Super Bowl? Right? Are
you talking about the pieces? Right now?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Let's talk about some of these pieces. They got the
All Pro left tackle Turn Williams. He's holding out get
like something like thirty one million. He's getting right, the
wide receiver Deebo Samuel like twenty eight mil. All right,
they got six guys out there that have contracts this
year that average at least nineteen to twenty million dollars
a year.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's amazing, it really is. And those guys should be paid.
Doubt they're saying, my god, if you can't pay us now,
you will never get paid. And we used to see
that with the Patriots, where they wouldn't pay guys, use
them up andy and then never get a man.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And I'll tell you something else. I think there's something
that we don't talk about. Maybe our guest at the
bottom of the hour can help us out here. Money's great,
and you talk about money, but I think that you
could have created a divide in that locker room if
they don't pay these guys, and that creates major problems
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Speaker 1 (11:03):
College football has gone bananas, and not in a good way.
It is it has sold out everything, sold its soul.
Let's have teams from the West coast play in the
Midwest and play in the Big Ten. Whatever they want
to do. They just don't care. They've wrecked traditions, they've
(11:29):
wrecked rivalries. Andy, anything goes because television is paying money.
And I mean, I don't if you're a college football fan.
And Andy, we grew up in New York, no.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
College football, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
But we've lived all over and you know that there's
certain Ray lived in Michigan for twenty years of Michigan,
Ohio State all that kind of stuff, and how much
people are into college football. You know, lived all over
in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I lived in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Jeez, you know, right, you know what that's all about. Yeah,
but here, Lincoln Riley just knocked my socks off today.
I mean this comment, which basically I want you to
hear this and then we'll discuss. I would love to.
I would love to.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
I know, I know it means you know a lot
to a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And so the again, the purest in you, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Now, if you get in a position where you got
to make a decision on what's best for SC to
help us win a national championship versus keeping that shoot,
then you got to look at it. I mean, and listen,
we're not the first example of that. Look all the
way across the country, there's been a lot of other
teams sacrifice rivalry games. I'm not saying that's what's going
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to happen, but you know, as we get into this
playoff structure and if it changes not we in this
new conference, like, we're going to learn some about this
as we go and what the right and the best
track is, you know, to winning a national championship.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And what he said, Andy was he would be willing
to forego the rivalry, would Notre Dame for a chance
to win a national championship. Can you imagine Notre Dame
in USC not playing Andy. There is one thing that
college football has that I think that the powers that
be are trampling over, and that's tradition.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
You know, you have games that hold on Thorp.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Oh Man, and tradition is important to me. I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I mean the backyard barnstorming games of the Penn State,
West Virginia games, the rivalries. How many rivalries are there
right now? There's Ohio State Michigan with I have to
play during the same league. And you got what Army Navy.
First of all, did this guy coaching USC? Lincoln Riley
is a fool. He's a fool. And the fact that
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he talked about it tells me he's probably gonna do it.
That's number one. Number two. With more games, more team's
invited to postseason tournament play this year, to have twelve teams,
you can afford a second loss.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Maybe even the third.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So play it for the alumni's sake, for the school's sake,
for college football's sake, USC has to play, not your dame.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And for him to even talk about that.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Is a disgrace to the school, to the program, after
college football in general. And if I was the athletic
director of the USC, I'm calling him in my office
and say, look, coach the game, shut your mouth.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm handling the schedule now.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
You isn't Lincoln Riley the same clown who didn't talk
to the media after several losses last year? Rightly, right,
But now he's doing some talking. Now he's talking.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'm with you. And if you're don't that robery date
back to the twenties and the nineteen twenty.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I think nineteen twenty six, I believe so.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, yeah, think about that, Andy, that you see how
Philippy was, Well, if it means they have a Jams
and Winter Nagiel Jam will do whatever it takes what
Notre Dame? Hell with it. I know people wouldn't like it,
but the hell with Notre Dame really like usc Notre
Dame wouldn't mean jack to them. It is unbelievable, Andy,
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Why is everything for sale? And why are people so
quick to sell everything? Can I tell you this?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I love the Yankees and the Dodgers for two reasons. No,
for one reason I should. I love both of those
teams for one reason. Where do they play Yankee Stadium
and Dodger Stadium? Andy? Tell me the Yankees and the
Dodgers couldn't get a gazillion dollars from an American Express or
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some big company to rename their stadiums.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
You're exactly right. They didn't sell their soul, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
But they don't leave They left money on the table,
didn't they? The Yankee Stadium could be American Express Stadium. Tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You're exactly right. You know what college football has done.
They've defined jury mandering at its best. They've basically what
they do. You got teams from the West Coast playing
in the ACC. The whole thing is screwed up. It's crazy.
But they did it for one reason, and one reason
only gelt the Green Cabbage money. When you have a problem,
we have a question to ask. In sports, it always
(16:27):
reverts back to the money, and you hit it on
the head with the TV money. It's all about the money.
But the game is going south now. It's going so
it's crazy. Every space is sold, every name on the field,
every signage. It's ridiculous. It's crazy. And there's more games,
there's more teams. The twelve teams are getting into the
tournament right now. And again you could tell us to
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Lincoln Riley, you can lose two or three games and
still get into that tournament. You can.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
But that's where we are. It's been dumbing down right.
Put everybody in. Let's make it as mortgage board. Andy.
Can we talk about how bad the college football playoffs
has been with four teams? How many great games have
you seen? Andy? Because I haven't seen many they're usually blowouts.
They're terrible games leading up to the championship game, and
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the championship.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Game anticipation trophies. You're giving out the participation trophies. That's
what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I mean, I don't get it, but I tell you,
I'd like to see the feedback and the pushback the
fans and the alums at USC are going to be
doing in the next forty eight hours and what he
has said today. I want to see what happens there.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
You got.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
I want to see what Not Your Dame has to say.
I mean, really, Marcus Freeman, the coach of not today,
he's got to come out and say, wait a minute,
this is a tremendous rivalry that has to be played.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Where's Not Your Dame on this? They gotta have a statement? Yeah,
it is amazing. And even not There're Dame. They've always
had their own television NBC television contract and deals, so
they've always been ahead of the curve on this, and
that's why they didn't want to be in any conference.
They're making their own money. Hand over fist, we got it.
They have a big following nationally, right, they travel well.
(18:09):
Notre Dame's always been in that, But I cannot get
over where we are in college football. And I don't
know how anybody is loving this or think this is
great like that, As you said, these schools were two
and three losses that are going to go to the championship.
And then who was it the Nebraska coach Matt Ruhle
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who just said did you hear this Andy the other
day that the Big Tension automatically have four teams in
the in the Yeah, automatically, as if you don't have
to play for anything. Well, we're a big conference. We
have all these schools, so we should have four entries
no matter what into the college football.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And they're saying that, you know why, to protect their
career ends for their job. That's why they do because
there's so much pressure on these guys to win right now.
That's why Lincoln Raley system they live like you know.
He already canceled at the Old Miss game. USC is
supposed to play Ole Miss this year or next year,
and he said the game was canceled, but he said
it was in the works. He canceled that he's full
of it. He canceled he didn't want to play Old Miss.
(19:12):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
It is. It's amazing and the fans have no recourse.
This is all they have. If you're in one of
these college towns, Andy, what do you have? You look
forward to write five six saturdays in the fall, that's
all you have. Come on, dudelet's so we get.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
To see more of the big time schools playing like
Alabama does when they play Austin p when they played
the minor schools, the Division one Double A schools. Is
that what they're gonna do now the fat in their
schedule and get wins? Is that what they're doing right now?
I don't know what's the watch and they're gonna go
in big time.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I was up at the Big House at Michigan the
early part of the schedule where they've had their record play
some terrible schools, right right, people got to pay to
go see that. People are walking streaming out by halftime.
Just just a waste of time and energy. Right And
now along with that, you would you would put up
for that to be able to have your rivalry games
(20:10):
and things that matter. And now that's all being stripped
away from college football fans for the almighty dollar. When
is enough enough? Why does everything have to be for sale.
I just can't. Everything, Andy, everything is for sale. Why
not sell a position on the team. Let some rich
(20:31):
kid pay three million dollars to be a walk on
at Alabama?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Is that? Is that? So some rich dad? Is that next?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Why not? I mean, we got we got we got
ninety kids, right, forty who don't even see the field.
Why not put them on the team three million dollars.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You covered sports for a while, did you ever live
to see the day of dream that we'd see nil,
that players would get paid?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I just I think they deserve to get paid.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
But I think that what they did, they didn't realize
what the gates, that they open the floodgates because you
stop what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I do considering what they've done, I mean, and how
it came about. But again, if the colleges they want
to control nil, right Andy, but they're not paying. The
colleges still refuse to pay. How can you legislate something
you're not dishing out, you're not hitting the hire money.
They have hired people, They have.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Hired staffers to go out there and bang on the
doors of alums and businesses to pay these kids. But
they won't pay them.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
They won't pay them. If they would have paid them
and figured out a system, it would be totally different.
But they refuse to pay them. They want to use
the kids up, use their bodies, use their playing ability
to make money off these kids.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
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Speaker 1 (21:56):
Steph Curry and we talked about a little bit if
you weren't listening early with Antonio Daniels about Steph Curry
saying that if the Warriors become bottom feeders, maybe he'll
move on and Rob g he was talking to Mark
Spears from ESPN and Anscape, right, friend of the show. Yeah, absolutely,
Mark is someone I helped mentor when he first started.
(22:18):
If you could believe that in this career crazy, But anyway,
you have the quote, Rob Gi. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
So Mark spoke to him at a long form piece
and during the conversation he asked Steph. He said, Hey,
you saw the type of lackluster teams that Kobe and
Dirk had into their careers. Should we be assumed that
you'd be fine with just anyone during the rest of
your career playing solely for the Warriors. And Steph started
out like you'd expect. He said, Hey, at this stage
(22:45):
in my career, I always felt like he was possible
to be a Warrior for life. And he goes on
and on, and then he says, this is where he
kind of puts it from his mouth. I'll continue to
make the decisions that are best for me and for
my career. At the end of the day, when it
comes to just the imagination, I want to win. Let's
put it this way. It's a long winded way of
(23:07):
saying that. If it is a situation where you're a
bottom feeder and it's just because you want to stay there,
I'd have a hard time with that.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
But I don't think that's going.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
To be the reality.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Wow, I just Andy, I'll say this, and I'm not saying.
If you remember the end of Kobe's career, Rob g
correct me if I'm wrong. The Lakers didn't make the
playoffs his last five years. Is that correct? It's like
five or six years, Andy, the last they didn't make
the playoffs. Part of it was people didn't want to
(23:40):
come play with Kobe. Nobody ever wants to talk about it.
Robb g Am I speaking out of turn. No, not necessarily, No,
nobody wants to come play with him. Dwight Howard Andy
left thirty million dollars on the table to go to
Houston to get away from Kobe. You think he wants
that money now, thirty million to leave LA And my
(24:07):
point here is it's okay that you're not title contenders
or you're not they don't have a maybe all the
way legitimate shot to win. I don't understand it. Derek
Jeter played twenty full season for the New York Yankees.
Their last championship was two thousand and nine. Andy, he
(24:30):
retired in twenty fourteen. Five years they didn't win, right,
is at the end of the do you look at
Derek Jeter anything? Oh my god, the last five years
he didn't win. Kobe the last five or six years,
didn't make the playoffs. Do you think that? So people
will tell you Kobe's the goat, he's better than Michael
and Lebron. They don't say, well, he didn't even make
(24:50):
the playoffs the last five.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
But things change. And let me get an example. I
can switch sports for a second. Things change because people
are worried about. Athletes are worried about their legacy when
they retire their last stop.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
What would they like?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
All right, I'll give you an example of football. Dan
Marino and Eli Manning. Eli Manning won two Super Bowls.
Dan Marino never won any, but the way they worshiped
Eli Mining. Right now, Eli Minning couldn't shine Dan Marino's shoes.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Asked, if you ask most people who's the better quarterback,
ninety nine percent will say Dann Marino. Okay, And I
get it. I would hope, I would hope they would.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Marino was the godfather of the forward pass in the
National Football League.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
And so I get that.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
But there were people, even without a championship for Dan Marino,
were saying that he was their goat. He was the
most prolific. This guy was unbelievable. Second year they went
to the Super Bowl, he threw fifty touchdown. This isn't
like now where they throwing every down Andy. This was
a different brand of football. He was that great. Okay,
but it doesn't negate how great Dan Marino was. And
(25:57):
Steph won four championship, correct, then you can't take that
away from him, even if he finishes out his career
and the last four years the Warriors don't win. I
just don't understand that. If he goes to another team
and they don't win the last four years, what does
that mean? Does that changes? Does that change anything? If
he were to go but you know, Lakers, and then
they don't lose, they don't win the championship.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
For we're trying to go back in history and look back,
look back in history and maybe think Michael.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Jordan went to Washington, they didn't make the playoffs his
last two years.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
You're right, But you know what, maybe the more things change,
maybe the more they stayed the same. I'll give you
an example. I'm going way back in time because I
love basketball, and I'll go back to the days when
Bill Russell Pett against Wilt Chamberlain. Will Chamberlin has never
considered when they talk about the greatest players of all
time in the NBA. His name is never mentioned, never mentioned.
Guy average fifty points a game one year? All right,
(26:48):
Will Chamberlain may have been the most dominant player ever
to put on a uniform in the NBA. Never mentioned why?
Because how many championships did he win in sixty seventy
won a championship with the seventy six ers, right, I mean,
other than that, he was dominated all the time by
Bill Russell, and Bill Russell to me was a great player.
But it's almost like what we talked about with the
(27:08):
San Francisco forty nine ers. He had great thoroughbreds with
him on that team. He had the Jones boys. He
had all those guys, Casey and Sam Jones. He had
Jim Loscatov, He had Tommy Hinsen, you name of me
had him on Tom Sanders. They had great players on
those Celtic teams. You know, maybe maybe Chamberlain didn't, but
to me, Chamberlain was dominant, and he if they ever
have a mount Rushmore in the NBA, he has to
(27:30):
be on that mountain.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
There's no there's no there's no doubt, there's no there's
no doubt. I'm sorry, I don't know what happened to
dump uh Andy. There's no that was crazy, There's no doubt.
But I do think that people are so caught up
in this thing like it's a birthright, like you have
(27:54):
to be in there in the mix or to hunt.
That's what you've seen Lebron James destroy franchises by giving
up young players, right, because he's got to be in
the mix. That doesn't. That hasn't helped Lebron. They made
all the moves. He still has his four championships, right,
He's about to play season number twenty. Lebron could play
(28:16):
twenty four seasons if he doesn't win. How does that?
He won his four championship, the leading scorer of all time.
What are you gonna take away from him?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I don't know, but I think what you remember him by?
He when he ends his career, when one ends a career.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Michael Jordan ended his career on a sad note. Washington Wizards.
He's still twenty a game, I know, but but but
they didn't even make the play half the league makes
the playoffs. Andy and a team Michael Jordan and four
other guys couldn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Not even about that, right, But he has that burning
desire that many of these players don't have. And I'll
give you an example. We talk about the contracts that
people in the NFL right now, they're sitting out. They
want more money. To me, it tells me they'd rather
have money more so than championships. I don't know if
it's the ego because player X on one team at
(29:09):
the same position makes more money than he does, that's
why they want the money.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
But to me, back in the day, it was all
about winning. You sacrifice the paycheck maybe for a championship.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You know who did that?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Tom Brady. Tom Brady did it, didn't he He sacrifices
his salary. But really, the only thing I'm gonna do, Brady,
I'm sorry, I'm saw that all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
But here's my thing. His wife a made more money
than him, but be the Patriots didn't use the money
for players. The reason people celebrate Tom Brady that he
didn't have anybody to throw to that the guy was
working at Dunkin Donuts and then he became a receiver
for the Patriots. They let all the great defensive players
that helped him win those championships go without getting paid.
(29:54):
Tom Brady didn't help those teammates by doing that. Go
look at the Patriots for the last decade. They spent
less money with free agents and whatnot than any other team.
So he saved the money and they didn't spend it.
That's why I can't laud that because they didn't do
right by Tom Brady by him saving the money. My point, though,
(30:14):
is still Steph Curry would be crazy to leave the Warriors.
His legacy is about his longevity there, what he was
able to do, the championships, what he means to the city.
Why put on some other teams uniform. He doesn't need
to do that. Derek Jeter didn't do it. Tom Brady
should have stayed in New England his whole career. He
(30:36):
didn't need to do that, even though he wound up
getting that other championship with Tampa Bay. Tom Brady's one
of those guys. Derk Novinsky, what he played twenty one
years in Dallas, I think that that's stronger. That tells
me a lot there. But we've seen that Stephen Curry's
one of those iconic players that shouldn't just be hopping around.
(31:00):
You brought up Kevin Durant earlier. Kevin Durants are no
mad I mean, think about it. Kevin Durant could go
into the Hall of Fame. If they had to put
a uniform on him, they would have to put him
in rags because there's too many different colors and different teams.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
You're exactly right. But the point is this is that happened.
What about Joe Montana. How many people remember the fact
that he ended his career in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I get that, but that wasn't his choice though, It's
not what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
But he could have said, but he could have packed
it and say, look, I'm not going anywhere else. If
that's the way he wanted, I'm gonna end my career
right here.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
But he got so played and helped him get to
the AFC Championship Game, so he still had something in
the tank. It's just that they had other quarterbacks who
were ready to play. And I get that. But but
if you remember Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
John refused, he refused to he retired, right.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He didn't, by the way, anybody else's uniform.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Right. His wife, Rachel, turned one hundred and two on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
She's unbelievable and she looks she's great, great, she looks
like she's fifty all right, eight seven seven ninety nine.
On Fox, we do want to hear from you. We
will give you some extra time if you want to
jump in. You haven't.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
This is good. This is a good topic because they
could go on, because I'd like to see Steph go
into the Hall of Fame with one jersey on the
Golden State, four championships there, and an NBA MVP Trophy
all in Golden State.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That's where you made you keep, that's where you're known.
Stayed out.
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