July 29, 2024 • 38 mins
Chris and Rob debate whether or not Patrick Mahomes is doing the right thing by consistently taking less-than-market value contracts from the Kansas city Chiefs and tell us what they liked most about Kevin Durant’s Team USA debut. Plus, The Athletic’s Jared Weiss swings by to discuss Jayson Tatum’s benching against Serbia, whether or not Tatum gets the respect he deserves across the NBA, why Jrue Holiday and Derrick White appear to be such great fits on Team USA, why reigning NBA Finals MVP Jaylen Brown was left off the USA roster altogether and much more!
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So keep it locked for that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
But in the meantime, in between times, we will go
to the NFL where Rob Jordan Love got his.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Money, didn't he match?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
What four years to twelve or something like that. I thought,
I think he robbed it.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
What are the numbers on these to twenty? He got
to twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I think he matched Trevor Lawrence and Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Is that correct? That is correct for Jordan.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Right, but it was two twenty and two it got
to twelve correct, correct?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yes? Yes, So.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Now with those guys getting that much, you know in salary,
Patrick Mahomes, the best quarterback in the league, is no
longer in the top ten highest paid quarterbacks per year.
And he was asked by friend to the show, Jared Bell,
longtime NFL writer USA Today, Yes, and he asked Mahomes
(02:08):
if he was fell underpaid. And here's what Mahmes said,
not necessarily. I think we do a great job of
managing my money to be able to pay me a
lot of money and keep a good team around me.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I know we've kind of restructured.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It a couple of times and got the cash flow
up in certain spots and in certain years. It's about
having a good dialogue and good communication with the front
office with ownership.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
We've done that here. We've been able to allow me
to be a highly paid guy while.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
At the same time build a great team around me
and Rob. What he's talking about is because his deal
is ten years.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
We talked about this on First Things First today.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Because his deal is ten years, they can his money
all over the place, and if he wants like meaning,
they can give him more money, which they have done,
and if he wanted to, he could demand more money.
Obviously they got to pay him more. But from twenty
twenty three, and this is according to Mike Florio rop
(03:18):
of course Pro Football Talk, from twenty twenty three to
twenty twenty six, Patrick Mahons will get more money than
any quarterback. He's gonna get two hundred ten point six million,
Lamar Jackson will get two hundred and eight, Deshaun Watson
will get one eighty four, Joe Burrow won eighty one,
and if he gets all his.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Money, Daniel Jones with one sixty.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So Mahomes is getting his money because of the way
that contract is set up. So I got no issue
with what Mahomes is doing. I actually think he's got
his priority straight. He's clearly making a ton of money.
Even if you just say, okay, he's only get you know,
the number that's on the books is forty five million
(04:04):
a year. He's he's still wealthy beyond his wildest dreams.
It's a capped league, so you do have to, you know,
if you lose players, if your quarterback or certain other
players are making so much.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And I would like if he if the cost.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Of you know, he's willing to give up a little
money to keep some better players and have more chances
of winning the super Bowl and he's still filthy rich.
I actually think that's smart. I'd rather make forty five
million a year, have five or six rings super Bowls
because I'm trying to be the greatest ever. If I'm him,
then make fifty five million a year, maybe have.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Three super Bowls. And so I got no issue with
what Patrick Mahomes do. I have an issue with what
you just said. And here's the problem I have.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Is that you naturally correlate that winning rings is because
he takes less money. That's not why he wins his talent.
It has nothing to do with yeah, but the players
you can't have. He's lost players.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
He's still great, but that doesn't mean you're gonna do
that every russe.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
In spite of that, because he's a great player. It
has nothing to do with how much money he makes
or if he was making fifty is.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It captain million.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah, but they're paying guys who aren't even as talents
as him way more money. Chris, you must just acknowledge
and you know this a lot of people. This is
not rob bapedia, This is not me talking. It was
the worst contract anybody could have ever signed who had
the leverage that Patrick Mahomes signed. It was sixteen million
(05:40):
guaranteed on a half a billion dollar contract. When I said, no,
I'm just over there in the next thoty years, he's
gonna have more money than any quarterbacks. When he signed
the deal, he had the ultimate leverage of a guy
who was a young quarterback who had won a Super
Bowl in an MVP. He should have set the standard
for the rest of the quarterbacks and for the rest
(06:02):
of the league. Instead, he took a piss poor deal
that now they have to kind of finagle and and
throw smoking mirrors and tell you, well, still he's gonna
if all this work, he's still.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Gonna get his meal.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
All I know is ten other guys, eleven guys make
more money than him. And if he's the best quarterback
in the league and he keeps winning, he should be
the highest paid. It's not a it's just.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Tom Brady wasn't always the highest.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Just has some tom Brady said he except he retired
with the as the person who had made more money
than any player in the NFL didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Do justice for it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So he got maybe he has three d and thirty
six million, I think, And so if he would have
been four hundred.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
He played for fifty years, of course he made more
money than anybody. Nobody played that long. Chris a Longegardy
thing when it talks about money. The bottom line is
Patrick Mahomes took a terrible deal and he should be
the highest paid quarterback that ten or eleven every year.
That that that's not about who's the best. I'm just
(07:04):
talking about. But you keep saying that, oh, he'd rather
take five million or ten million less and win more
Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
It doesn't go hand in hand, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
And but but what my point, what you know, what
does go hand in hand, or or can can go
hand in hand, is if you if the quarterback takes
less money, there's more money to go get better players,
and that increases your chances of winning.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
But I mean, if you if you are the type.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
To say, I gotta get as absolutely as much as
I'm worth my teammates or the quality of my team
be darned.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That's fine, that's your right.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But if he's like man, I got money galore, my
children's childrens will be filthy rich and their children as well.
And I'm still making I'm making tons of money, and
I got a better.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Chance of winning every year. I got. No you with that.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Did you see Matthew Stafford didn't come into practice until
they restructured his deal. That dude has all the money
he's made, and they won a Super Bowl, they paid him,
they gave him a ridiculous contract even then, and that
dude told them I'm not coming unless you restructure and
fix my deal.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He not coming in and guess what they did. They
fixed it.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
And my only point, Chris and you that the way
you look at it is fine if that's you, and
that's Patrick Mahomes, But that doesn't mean he didn't take
a bad deal. And if you talk to most agents
in the business and most executives and just on forget
about feelings and what you want to do. But whether
or not it was a good deal he got, he got.
(08:44):
He took a horrible deal and the Chiefs took advantage
of his kindness. Nobody's saying he has to ask for
a gazillion dollars and leave nothing for anybody else.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But there ain't no way.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Three super bowls in he should be the eleventh highest
paid quarterback in the league.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It's just me. If it's such a bad deal, then why.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
From twenty twenty three to twenty twenty six is he
gonna make more money than any quarterback?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I don't know why is he the eleventh highest p
I mean that that that might be.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That might be the smoke in mirrors. It ain't no
smoking's like So I'm just telling you. I'm looking at
this chart, and from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty six,
according to Mike Flourio, he's going to make more money
than any other quarterback because they can adjust his money
every year.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So with justin now and give him more money, but
they clearly have. He's gonna get two hundred ten million.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Andrew Bride, Lamar and DeShawn and Burrow, and he works it.
He worked in the front office and said they could
do whatever they want.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
He said they could kick the can down the road.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
He says, it's it's a it's a it's it's nonsense
that they make it like, oh, we can't do this,
we can't do that.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
They can do whatever they want to do with the chief.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Want to make it right and adjust other people's money
to make sure that their quarterback is by far, he's
the best guy in the league. He's going to be
the more highest paid and we're gonna do whatever he
takes to do that. They could do that, That's all
I'm saying, Chris, you could do whatever you want. If
you're telling me that they could adjust Patrick Mahomes contract,
(10:21):
they could adjust anybody else's contract on the team as
well to make sure that Patrick gets his money.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
No, they can He should be not only the highest
paid player in the NFL, he should be the highest
paid player in American sports. But I think he's got
his priorities in order. He's still making tons of money.
He's still going to make more than any other quarterback
from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty six, and he's
(10:51):
got a better chance of winning Super Bowls. He as
great as he is, you still need great teammates.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Still.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
They got the greatest, arguably the best defensive player in
the league in Chris Jones.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
He got paid.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
They got arguably the best tight end for that, but
he got paid, and Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Tyree Hill had the bounce who use left, Sneid left,
Honey Badger left.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And they replaced them with good players. And so I'm
just saying I need just lost it. And I'm speaking
from experience. I've been in a good situation and I've
unfortunately my career, I've always been in good situations, but
I've been When I was at ESPN, I could have
(11:36):
went somewhere else for more money, but I was happy
and content with where I was, and I stayed at
ESPN and made less can.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And I was great.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And and like, I don't think the happiest people are
the ones that gott to chase every last dollar and
fred over every last dollar.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I didn't say that, I'm just telling you. I mean
that's what you sound like, though, I just don't believe
in that that you should be.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
That's their responsibility to front office to figure out the money.
That's not your responsibility. It's nonsense to put that burden
on yourself. What are the other people paying a burden
that he has to do with the will have they
let Have they lowered the ticket prices in Kansas City
on the eighteen dollar beers or the twenty two dollar
(12:22):
pizzas because Patrick Mahomes took less as the fans there
at the Chiefs fans if they got a break because
Patrick Mahomes took less money, did tickets keep going up?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Go look at the ownership and the money they're putting
in the bank.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
They're taking less money. It's a cat lead. No, but
that doesn't mean anything. It's off cap, but it's a cap.
They can still do what they want. I'm not This
is not me.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I'm talking to people who have worked in the NFL
front offices. They say it's a con that they can
do whatever they want and.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
They give you there you can keep pushing the money
down the line. But if I'm an owner of a team,
I'm not pushing all that money down the.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Line all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Sometimes I will, but sometimes I won't. They got they
gonna do their business too. I mean, that's why the
Dallas Cowboys are in a mess right now. They got
three guys they need to sign it. They haven't signed
one of them yet, so if it was an uncapped
league like baseball.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Sure, but this ain't Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So, like I said, if Florio's correct, he's still gonna
get more money than any quarterback from twenty twenty three
to twenty twenty six. So I'm supposed to be shedding
tears for him, and then he's on his way to
be in the goat.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
And then they using and then they're using Patrick Mahomes
as as the poster boy for welfare in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Really, how's that working out?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Every quarterback that signs is getting more money than they're
using them.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
But it ain't work in Steven Jones just telling everybody
to radio un Dallas.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Oh Dad, can ce d Lamb watch your take. Let's
look at what Patrick Mahome did. You should give us
a hometown discount.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
The Cowboys are the highest record of franchise in sports history.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Asking for a discount.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
You imagine that out and using Patrick Mahomes as a
as a poster boy on why they should take less
money than the market value.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Did it work?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Did it work with the Jaguars and Trevor Lawrence? Did
it work with the Packers?
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Now?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Did it work with the Packers in Jordan Love did
it work with the Bengals and Joe.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Burd Ain't nobody getting less because of Patrick.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Mahon But the old Jesus still using but they're using him.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
It is working, but they used it all they wanted.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
They wanted to hear that that Patrick Mahomes is the
post if they need to retire that line working.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Everybody in their mama getting paid so that I don't
know what you're talking about with that, they say it
all they want. Then you just say, no, this ain't
Patrick Mahomes. Let's move on and give me my fifty
five million a year. That's what's going down, all right?
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Speaker 3 (15:05):
What are your thoughts on Mahomes as.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Everybody's starting to get more money per year than him?
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to Wear or Patrick Broomes is contract your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
All right?
Speaker 5 (16:49):
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Speaker 9 (16:53):
What's up, hey, Chris, welcome back. I think Rob. I
think Rob's so angry because you got faty and all those.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Cupcakes last right, Oh my god, you're right. Yeah, I'm
sure he was.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
Rob beside himself.
Speaker 10 (17:08):
But no, I agree with Rob.
Speaker 9 (17:11):
Look, eventually they're not going to always keep winning, and
he's gonna be making less money than probably a third
he's already making less money than the third of the
league now, and to what end, Like, while they're winning,
maybe he thinks it's a good thing, but they're eventually
not going to win it every single season, and he's
gonna sit there thinking, why am I taking a discount?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
He could hold out, if you if it gets to
that point, he could just hold out get the new
deal because he can read hide his deal every year.
Speaker 9 (17:42):
Yeah, but then why aren't they doing it? Like they
should start doing that now, because why you're sworn to nobody.
You sing to nobody.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Last year, he won't be this year. They upgraded the
receiving group and they got other players at other positions,
and it's.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I'm with you. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Tim
in Atlanta, you're on the Yond couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
What's up, Chili? Tim?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yo?
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Whatever?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
But Chris, what's that man?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (18:11):
I missed you last week. Rob, I was on vacation
and my wife took me away.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
For a week.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Where'd you go? Where'd you go?
Speaker 11 (18:18):
We went down to Jaco Island. I'm not sure if
you're communied with that.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Here on the coast of Georgia, it's really nice.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Oh, I've been to high but I've never been to
jack when when everything's not funny. Alex clearly didn't like Alan. No,
not your best work.
Speaker 11 (18:39):
But yeah, I turned fifty six glass week.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Oh wow, congratulates older than You're a young guy.
Speaker 11 (18:46):
Yeah, I'm younger. I retired young. I got my my
my twenty five in the government early.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
So you go, there you go.
Speaker 11 (18:55):
But yeah, so I was telling about GM. You know
some of these owners, could you know they could stop
some of this progression of these contracts by not paying
these guys like Daniel Brown or too like if they
stand up to them and say, you know what, you're
not fat your homes, so therefore you know you're not
going to get the contracting. If you want to shit out,
(19:15):
sit out, you know, but I'm not going to give
you that until you start showing me something. You know
more than that, you do the next guy up the
line so they can control this kind of thing. And
then my other thing is Fat Mahomes. You know, if
we say we got to stay out of other people's pockets,
and if he's cool with that, that's what he wants
to do. And he's cool, he's happy with that.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know.
Speaker 11 (19:35):
Sometimes you know, you show the other guys in your
locker room that you're not selfish.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
No, but can I say, tim, let me say this,
and your point is well taken and keep them on
the line, and you're You're right. If he wants to
do it, it's fine. But you do when you're Patrick
Mahomes and you could set the market, you do hurt
You could hurt other people by doing that. And what
I mean by that is how much would Joe Burrow
be making if Patrick Mahomes took its real work. Joe
(20:02):
Burrow might be making even more money?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Do you see what I'm saying? He needs more?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I mean, come on, it's not about what you need get,
It's not wasn't about talking about not about what you're
asking about.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That's how you live your life.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
That's about Barker, That's how you live your What is
it about?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's not the.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Dallas Cowboys charged twenty three dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Will you tell me what it's about?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
That's what I'm talking about, is that when you tell
me what it's about, what is it enough?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Joe Burrow ain't getting paid. Joe Burrow getting.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
More money at least on the APR or annual percentage
than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Right, but if hurt and Joe Burrow, But if Patrick
Mahomes would have taken his real.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Work, Joe Burrow possibility ain't Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Stop it, Joe Burrow, he ain't limited. He getting plenty
of money. Quintess in Las Vegas. You're on the Odd
Couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Hello, Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I have to say that I have to agree with
Chris on this one just because of the simple fact
when you're younger, I feel like you should focus more
on winning and just utilizing your talents. Because across all sports,
about sixty to seventy percent of people go broke after
they retire anyway, So if you just focus on making
smart investments.
Speaker 10 (21:19):
You'll have money anyways at the end, and it to
kind of be like that Kobe Bryant situations, where like,
if you're getting all this money, you should do that
around the time when you're retiring. But you see how
he capped his team. He couldn't do anything when he
was retiring. All he could do was just play.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
So well, Also, when you win, I didn't want to
play with Kobe, couldn't get a track anybody.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
When you win, you get more endorsements too.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I mean, Mahomes making something like twenty million a year
off endorsements too, So that's that's something.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
So if he had more money, he wouldn't make the
endorsement money. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, no, he might not win, so but but I
don't know that he wouldn't. I'm not saying he definitely
if you know, but he might not.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
So what if you would win, have a higher contract
and then make the endorsement money.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
We'd have that too, right, Well, if he.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Could win, making you know, a certain higher percentage of
the cap, sure, but there's no guarantee you would Rotgie
Stafford ain't even in Patrick Mahone's class.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Money because it was money.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
He got his money, and everybody.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Makes it like if you win, you get money. You
nobody's saying you can't.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm not saying you can't, but I'm saying it makes
it easier to have better players around you. If you're
not making you know, the absolute violence, you know ultimate
you could make, and then that improves your chances of winning.
All right, Jared Weiss from the Athletic will join us next.
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Jared Weiss. Jared, Welcome to the OC UP.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
What's happening, Let's good fellows. Greatod to have you on.
Man now obviously the real voice as a writer woman.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, yeah, you could move into this in the future
if you want.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Oh, I started, I started behind the mic. I had
to pick up the pen later.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Okay, oh there you go.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
All right, all right, Jason Tatum benched you cover the Celtics.
I mean, what an offseason. I mean, Jaylen Brown doesn't
make the team or you know, get chosen for the team,
Jason Tatum gets benched and Drew Holliday and Derek Wider playing.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
So what what do you make of this whole situation?
Speaker 7 (23:41):
I mean, it's funny how the Celtics win a championship
having their most kind of calm drama three season imaginable,
and then it's just been pandemodium the second season ended.
Everything has been up in the air, and it's funny.
Jason Tatum, I remember talking to him earlier this year
and he said that he thinks he has a chance
to be the face of the NBA in the future,
(24:02):
and that conversation is not going to start until he
wins a championship. So he goes and he wins a title.
The first game after winning a title, he gets a DMP,
And it's just it's funny how this thing works. But
you look at the way that they've been running Team USA,
and they've been starting Devin Booker and Drew Holliday or
I think two guys that people expected to come off
the bench early on and maybe Tatum would be starting,
(24:23):
and then they're faith in Serbia. They need extra bigs
against Jokic, so they am out of bio and ag
are coming off the bench. I don't think they're probably
going to play two bigs off the bench most of
the time. So maybe that gives Tatum a chance to
get minutes in the future, but this is probably mostly
just a matchup thing and maybe Tatum plays the rest
(24:43):
of the way.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
But it does And you got to admit that Jared
dead for Tatum. It's an embarrassing thing from the standpoint.
That is just another situation where he feels like he's
not getting the respect. Don't you whether he played four
minutes other guys are playing. My god, it was a
blowout win. You couldn't find four or five minutes to
(25:07):
play him. It just feels like it was unnecessary by
Steve Kerr.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
Well, that's the weird thing there. It's hard to figure
out what to do. Is you could put him in
for garbage time and then is that a bit of
a fight that you're only playing him in garbage But you.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Could ask him, couldn't you ask him do you want
to go in? As is all it is, and he
has the right to say nah rather not. And then
when people say, how come, Well, you know, the game
came down to it or whatever, and he didn't want
to go in, and it's all good and he'll play
the next game, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Like, there's an opportunity.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
If you do it that way, then he's a bad
guy for not wanting to come in, right so now.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
In a blowout win, I don't think he's a bad guy.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I think that's out of respect to say, do you
want to go in during garbage time?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I don't think that's an indictment of him.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
I know Jason Satum. He would never say no to
take it the floor, like they have to fight him
to even take res games during the year. So you's
sure as hell is going to play for Team USA
if he gets a chance. So you know, I would
have put him in there at the end of the
game if it was me. But you know, Steve Curran
is a little bit more about coaching than I do,
so I'll defer to his manager of the situation. But
like this is this is going to happen for Team USA,
(26:16):
Like they've they got twelve great players there and Tatum
sticks out just because he just won a championship and
he's been playing phenomenally as the plea. Well, it's funny
to keep in mind he also just finished the season, and.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, but he's on the team, and you can't use
that he's on the team. The other guys Drew Holliday
and Derek White on the team too, didn't They just
finished their season. They played and the women's they won
by twenty six and a blowout, and everybody played in
that game. I mean, come on like that, like you're
being You're giving Steve Kerr pass and he easily could
(26:50):
have done it.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
They did it on the women's side.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
That team is seventy and one in their last seventy
one Olympic games, So somehow they found a way to
get everybody in the game.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I agree with you, I don't agree with the way
that kurk kemel. I just don't see it as as
like a humiliating thing for Tatum so much as that
like this is this is like the serious competition. Now
it's only forty minutes and they're playing in teen man rotation.
But yeah, I think I don't have a problem with
the temn rotation and Tatum not playing. But I agree
I would have put him in at the end of
(27:21):
the game.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Obviously, you know, we got several games left for him
to play. Who knows, Tatum may, you know, play twenty
minutes a game the rest of their way?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But as it stands right now, with Jalen Brown not
on the team and three Celtics are, and then Drew
Holliday and Derek White are playing, at.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Least to this point, more than Jason Tatum.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
If it were to continue this way, I mean, I'm
not saying Tatum won't play at all, but you know
he wasn't getting the minutes that those guys are getting.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Could you see this?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
How could you see this impacting the Celtics season? Maybe
positively in that Jalen and Jason might be motivated, or
negatively in that maybe they'll feel slighted because role players
were actually getting more playing time and even on the
team than them.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
How do you think this could affect him?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
I think it's probably a positive from Boston's perspective, because
this is just putting another chip on their shoulder when
you could have imagined them having one on their shoulder
after winning the championship. What better way to get them
motivated by humbling them and making them pissed off Anie
into the next season. They're definitely not going to be
mad at Drew Halidy and Derek White, Like who's going
to be mad at those guys? They're both like the
(28:36):
most humble, hard working guys imaginable who squeeze more out
of their careers than just ft anyone else out there.
So it's this is a great thing for Boston frankly,
like Jalen gets all this validation during the playoffs and
then has this half of a Team USA, and so
he's going to come into the season clearly with something
to prove. Same thing with Tatum, with the situations, very
possibly feels the same way. The concern for the Celtics
(28:59):
is in so much are these guys going to be motivated?
The concern is are these guys going to continue to
buy in and are they going to have the harmony
that they had last season that made them so good.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Let me ask you this because obviously lebron kd Steph
you would think this is their last Olympics. Tatum is
clearly one of the key cogs for Team USA going forward.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
He's already what this is his second one, I.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Believe, So I mean do you think if this were
to continue, even if it's not benched every game, but
maybe it's just small minutes, five six minutes a game.
Could you see him, you know, in the future, maybe
not wanting to play for Team USA or anything like that.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
No, that that doesn't make sense. Rights to still flighted
that he didn't get enough minutes because Kevin Durant was
not missing any shots. Like, you have to earn it,
you have to work your way up, and Tatum is
still early in his career and there's still a lot
of great players ahead of them. And also, like you know,
some these guys that are getting the VET minutes, they
might not necessarily be better if he just gave them
(30:05):
a team in the NBA. Right now, these guys are
more season, they're more they're you know, they're more qualified
for this moment. And also the USA is so good
they could just kind of play their vets for now
and you know it figured it out from there. We'll
see what happens at the very end. But also Lebron
and kat are playing out of their minds right now.
Liken Lebron is playing like he's in his early thirties again,
and Katie's not missing, So JT has to earn these minutes.
(30:29):
He can't just win a championship, have a great closeout
game and just walk into performing at this level. We're
talking about Lebron and Katie and step here.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Yeah, but the future is you would say Tatum has
had some career thus far. It finally broke through and
won a championship, but he's been really good the last
four years or whatnot.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
He's a star in the league, the first team All NBA.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Yeah, I mean that that's the part where I think
it just feels like maybe he just doesn't get he's
the Rodney Danger feel of the current NBA. You know,
let's not get in the respect and I'm not saying
you're going to elevate him over other people, but I
do think that this guy is wearing something where people
still just on buying into him. That's what it feels
(31:13):
like to.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Me, And you're right, and that's you know, that's how
he feels like. We had a good talk about it
earlier this year where he said on the record that
he feels like he's not getting the same kind of
he feels like he's held to a different standard than
most of the other younger players. Yeah, NBA. I think
Jalen feels the same way, and a lot of that
is born out of that. They play for this massive
(31:35):
market team who has always had the highest expectations every
year at championship or bus for the Celtics, and they've
been competing for championships since the second they got in
the league, and so they weren't relieve and ready to
contend for a title until basically last year. But the
teams they've been on have been so good that they've
been't put into that position early on, and so they
(31:56):
failed and succeeded so much in their careers, but at
a level that's like more than almost anyone that's ever
played in NBA history. Like what they're doing, at least
in this era is extremely rare, and so their breakthrough
feels like I think for a lot of fans out there,
especially a lot of kind of casual ish fans out there,
I think a lot of them felt like, oh, it's
about time. Like they almost weren't excited for the Jays
(32:19):
because they were just like, oh, well, it took you
long enough, huh. But that's it's rare that people ever
win before they hit their prime at like twenty seven,
twenty years old in this league, and what they're doing
is ahead of the curve for just about everybody else
in their era.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Before you go in quickly, Rob and I thought Tatum
should have got the MVP in the absolutely, I mean
it was I thought it was closed. I don't think
it was like egregious and egregious error because.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Obviously Brown played well and Tatum, you know, not in
a close out game.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Chris twenty two or whatever it was, yeah, twenty yeah,
I think it was twenty two. But anyway, but you know,
Tatum let them in points, rebounds, and assist and didn't
get them. V what was your thought? Do you think
Jalen should have got it or Jason?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
That was such a tough call. I wasn't one of
the voters on that one. I think the reason Jalen
caught it was just because he was playing better in
the first three games and the series kind of over
by game three, because JT's Game five performance was like
the best game of his career, like he was incredible
in that game. But I think because people felt like
the series is over at that point, they were willing
(33:24):
to give it to Jalin.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
All Right, that's Jared Weiss covers the Celtics in the
NBA at Large for the ass letting great stuff.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Man, thank you, thanks so much, guys.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
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I talked at the top of the show about Kevin
Durant and how well he played in his debut for
this year's Olympics, and he's really the perfect uh player
(35:19):
for Team USA. Uh what were you surprised at, you know,
with him have not having played in any of the
exhibition games, didn't practice uh until a few days ago,
and was a you know, decided to play like an
hour before the game.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Were you surprised at the way he came out and
how strong you was?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Uh? Yeah, I just didn't know what to expect, you
know what I mean, when a guy hasn't played, you
don't know if he'll have a little rust on him.
Chris and That's that's all. I mean, not that Kenny
play if he's healthy.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
We not.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
This dude is a baller, like one of the best
to play the game. So it was just that, not
considering like he didn't have the other warm ups in
the pre whatever you want to call him more you know,
exhibition games, Chris, he didn't have that stuff, So it
was just kind of weird that he would just come
out there and completely dominate.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And be as great as he was. He was tremendous. Yeah,
he was killing.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I mean, there's no if saying or butts about it.
And I think Rob, because obviously Lebron has been terrific.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Lebron's been probably.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
The best player for Team USA through the exhibition Games
and Game one at least of the Olympics. Anthony Davis
has been great, but Lebron's been the key. And I
think what it is a lot of people, you know,
obviously he's thirty nine years old, but Rob, we're talking
(36:44):
about six games, right, and we're talking about if you
count the exhibitions, I think it might be ten games
or whatever. And when you get older and you know this,
it's not that you can't go out there and get busy.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
For you know, stretches. It's that you can't generally.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Do it to the level you used to over eighty
two games and then the playoffs. And so I think
ROB a ten six game format, ten game format, whatever
you want to call it, where you're only playing twenty
five minutes or so, the team doesn't you know, when
you come out, that team doesn't lose the lead, they
(37:25):
don't fall behind because you got other great players and
you're playing so infrequently as far as minutes and actual
games that ROB you can go all out on defense
and a lot of what Lebron's creating is off defense.
And so I think that's why him and maybe KD
(37:47):
and the older players are actually really excelling to the point.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I mean, like I said, Lebron's just been the best player.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Yeah, that could be the case. And knowing also Chris
that uh, it's it's you know, how many games you're playing,
do you know what I mean? Compared to And.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
It's right, right, it's not it's not.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Uh, you're getting ready for a eighty two game season
and posted like.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
You know what it is, go back to back and.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
There's a lot there's a lot of things to just
figure out and say all right, I know what I
need to do and I know how to get this done.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
And you don't have to carry the team. You know
what I'm saying, Like, I think that's why Lebron, you know,
is able to accel. I mean this doesn't mean next year.
I mean you hear people saying he's the best player
in the league. I mean that's a lot different eighty
two games.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
It's a more athletic league
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Than the Olympics, so take that in consideration.
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Our number two of a three hour show, we got
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about the whole Jason Tatum situation and more basketball.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So keep it locked for that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
But in the meantime, in between times, we will go
to the NFL where Rob Jordan Love got his.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Money, didn't he match?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
What four years to twelve or something like that. I thought,
I think he robbed it.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
What are the numbers on these to twenty? He got
to twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I think he matched Trevor Lawrence and Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Is that correct? That is correct for Jordan.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Right, but it was two twenty and two it got
to twelve correct, correct?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yes? Yes, So.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Now with those guys getting that much, you know in salary,
Patrick Mahomes, the best quarterback in the league, is no
longer in the top ten highest paid quarterbacks per year.
And he was asked by friend to the show, Jared Bell,
longtime NFL writer USA Today, Yes, and he asked Mahomes
(02:08):
if he was fell underpaid. And here's what Mahmes said,
not necessarily. I think we do a great job of
managing my money to be able to pay me a
lot of money and keep a good team around me.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I know we've kind of restructured.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It a couple of times and got the cash flow
up in certain spots and in certain years. It's about
having a good dialogue and good communication with the front
office with ownership.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
We've done that here. We've been able to allow me
to be a highly paid guy while.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
At the same time build a great team around me
and Rob. What he's talking about is because his deal
is ten years.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
We talked about this on First Things First today.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Because his deal is ten years, they can his money
all over the place, and if he wants like meaning,
they can give him more money, which they have done,
and if he wanted to, he could demand more money.
Obviously they got to pay him more. But from twenty
twenty three, and this is according to Mike Florio rop
(03:18):
of course Pro Football Talk, from twenty twenty three to
twenty twenty six, Patrick Mahons will get more money than
any quarterback. He's gonna get two hundred ten point six million,
Lamar Jackson will get two hundred and eight, Deshaun Watson
will get one eighty four, Joe Burrow won eighty one,
and if he gets all his.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Money, Daniel Jones with one sixty.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So Mahomes is getting his money because of the way
that contract is set up. So I got no issue
with what Mahomes is doing. I actually think he's got
his priority straight. He's clearly making a ton of money.
Even if you just say, okay, he's only get you know,
the number that's on the books is forty five million
(04:04):
a year. He's he's still wealthy beyond his wildest dreams.
It's a capped league, so you do have to, you know,
if you lose players, if your quarterback or certain other
players are making so much.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And I would like if he if the cost.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Of you know, he's willing to give up a little
money to keep some better players and have more chances
of winning the super Bowl and he's still filthy rich.
I actually think that's smart. I'd rather make forty five
million a year, have five or six rings super Bowls
because I'm trying to be the greatest ever. If I'm him,
then make fifty five million a year, maybe have.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Three super Bowls. And so I got no issue with
what Patrick Mahomes do. I have an issue with what
you just said. And here's the problem I have.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Is that you naturally correlate that winning rings is because
he takes less money. That's not why he wins his talent.
It has nothing to do with yeah, but the players
you can't have. He's lost players.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
He's still great, but that doesn't mean you're gonna do
that every russe.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
In spite of that, because he's a great player. It
has nothing to do with how much money he makes
or if he was making fifty is.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It captain million.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah, but they're paying guys who aren't even as talents
as him way more money. Chris, you must just acknowledge
and you know this a lot of people. This is
not rob bapedia, This is not me talking. It was
the worst contract anybody could have ever signed who had
the leverage that Patrick Mahomes signed. It was sixteen million
(05:40):
guaranteed on a half a billion dollar contract. When I said, no,
I'm just over there in the next thoty years, he's
gonna have more money than any quarterbacks. When he signed
the deal, he had the ultimate leverage of a guy
who was a young quarterback who had won a Super
Bowl in an MVP. He should have set the standard
for the rest of the quarterbacks and for the rest
(06:02):
of the league. Instead, he took a piss poor deal
that now they have to kind of finagle and and
throw smoking mirrors and tell you, well, still he's gonna
if all this work, he's still.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Gonna get his meal.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
All I know is ten other guys, eleven guys make
more money than him. And if he's the best quarterback
in the league and he keeps winning, he should be
the highest paid. It's not a it's just.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Tom Brady wasn't always the highest.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Just has some tom Brady said he except he retired
with the as the person who had made more money
than any player in the NFL didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Do justice for it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So he got maybe he has three d and thirty
six million, I think, And so if he would have
been four hundred.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
He played for fifty years, of course he made more
money than anybody. Nobody played that long. Chris a Longegardy
thing when it talks about money. The bottom line is
Patrick Mahomes took a terrible deal and he should be
the highest paid quarterback that ten or eleven every year.
That that that's not about who's the best. I'm just
(07:04):
talking about. But you keep saying that, oh, he'd rather
take five million or ten million less and win more
Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
It doesn't go hand in hand, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
And but but what my point, what you know, what
does go hand in hand, or or can can go
hand in hand, is if you if the quarterback takes
less money, there's more money to go get better players,
and that increases your chances of winning.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
But I mean, if you if you are the type.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
To say, I gotta get as absolutely as much as
I'm worth my teammates or the quality of my team
be darned.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That's fine, that's your right.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But if he's like man, I got money galore, my
children's childrens will be filthy rich and their children as well.
And I'm still making I'm making tons of money, and
I got a better.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Chance of winning every year. I got. No you with that.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Did you see Matthew Stafford didn't come into practice until
they restructured his deal. That dude has all the money
he's made, and they won a Super Bowl, they paid him,
they gave him a ridiculous contract even then, and that
dude told them I'm not coming unless you restructure and
fix my deal.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He not coming in and guess what they did. They
fixed it.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
And my only point, Chris and you that the way
you look at it is fine if that's you, and
that's Patrick Mahomes, But that doesn't mean he didn't take
a bad deal. And if you talk to most agents
in the business and most executives and just on forget
about feelings and what you want to do. But whether
or not it was a good deal he got, he got.
(08:44):
He took a horrible deal and the Chiefs took advantage
of his kindness. Nobody's saying he has to ask for
a gazillion dollars and leave nothing for anybody else.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But there ain't no way.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Three super bowls in he should be the eleventh highest
paid quarterback in the league.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It's just me. If it's such a bad deal, then why.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
From twenty twenty three to twenty twenty six is he
gonna make more money than any quarterback?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I don't know why is he the eleventh highest p
I mean that that that might be.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That might be the smoke in mirrors. It ain't no
smoking's like So I'm just telling you. I'm looking at
this chart, and from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty six,
according to Mike Flourio, he's going to make more money
than any other quarterback because they can adjust his money
every year.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So with justin now and give him more money, but
they clearly have. He's gonna get two hundred ten million.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Andrew Bride, Lamar and DeShawn and Burrow, and he works it.
He worked in the front office and said they could
do whatever they want.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
He said they could kick the can down the road.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
He says, it's it's a it's a it's it's nonsense
that they make it like, oh, we can't do this,
we can't do that.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
They can do whatever they want to do with the chief.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Want to make it right and adjust other people's money
to make sure that their quarterback is by far, he's
the best guy in the league. He's going to be
the more highest paid and we're gonna do whatever he
takes to do that. They could do that, That's all
I'm saying, Chris, you could do whatever you want. If
you're telling me that they could adjust Patrick Mahomes contract,
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they could adjust anybody else's contract on the team as
well to make sure that Patrick gets his money.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
No, they can He should be not only the highest
paid player in the NFL, he should be the highest
paid player in American sports. But I think he's got
his priorities in order. He's still making tons of money.
He's still going to make more than any other quarterback
from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty six, and he's
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got a better chance of winning Super Bowls. He as
great as he is, you still need great teammates.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Still.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
They got the greatest, arguably the best defensive player in
the league in Chris Jones.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
He got paid.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
They got arguably the best tight end for that, but
he got paid, and Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Tyree Hill had the bounce who use left, Sneid left,
Honey Badger left.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And they replaced them with good players. And so I'm
just saying I need just lost it. And I'm speaking
from experience. I've been in a good situation and I've
unfortunately my career, I've always been in good situations, but
I've been When I was at ESPN, I could have
(11:36):
went somewhere else for more money, but I was happy
and content with where I was, and I stayed at
ESPN and made less can.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And I was great.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And and like, I don't think the happiest people are
the ones that gott to chase every last dollar and
fred over every last dollar.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I didn't say that, I'm just telling you. I mean
that's what you sound like, though, I just don't believe
in that that you should be.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
That's their responsibility to front office to figure out the money.
That's not your responsibility. It's nonsense to put that burden
on yourself. What are the other people paying a burden
that he has to do with the will have they
let Have they lowered the ticket prices in Kansas City
on the eighteen dollar beers or the twenty two dollar
(12:22):
pizzas because Patrick Mahomes took less as the fans there
at the Chiefs fans if they got a break because
Patrick Mahomes took less money, did tickets keep going up?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Go look at the ownership and the money they're putting
in the bank.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
They're taking less money. It's a cat lead. No, but
that doesn't mean anything. It's off cap, but it's a cap.
They can still do what they want. I'm not This
is not me.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I'm talking to people who have worked in the NFL
front offices. They say it's a con that they can
do whatever they want and.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
They give you there you can keep pushing the money
down the line. But if I'm an owner of a team,
I'm not pushing all that money down the.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Line all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Sometimes I will, but sometimes I won't. They got they
gonna do their business too. I mean, that's why the
Dallas Cowboys are in a mess right now. They got
three guys they need to sign it. They haven't signed
one of them yet, so if it was an uncapped
league like baseball.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Sure, but this ain't Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So, like I said, if Florio's correct, he's still gonna
get more money than any quarterback from twenty twenty three
to twenty twenty six. So I'm supposed to be shedding
tears for him, and then he's on his way to
be in the goat.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
And then they using and then they're using Patrick Mahomes
as as the poster boy for welfare in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Really, how's that working out?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Every quarterback that signs is getting more money than they're
using them.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
But it ain't work in Steven Jones just telling everybody
to radio un Dallas.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Oh Dad, can ce d Lamb watch your take. Let's
look at what Patrick Mahome did. You should give us
a hometown discount.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
The Cowboys are the highest record of franchise in sports history.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Asking for a discount.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
You imagine that out and using Patrick Mahomes as a
as a poster boy on why they should take less
money than the market value.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Did it work?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Did it work with the Jaguars and Trevor Lawrence? Did
it work with the Packers?
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Now?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Did it work with the Packers in Jordan Love did
it work with the Bengals and Joe.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Burd Ain't nobody getting less because of Patrick.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Mahon But the old Jesus still using but they're using him.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
It is working, but they used it all they wanted.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
They wanted to hear that that Patrick Mahomes is the
post if they need to retire that line working.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Everybody in their mama getting paid so that I don't
know what you're talking about with that, they say it
all they want. Then you just say, no, this ain't
Patrick Mahomes. Let's move on and give me my fifty
five million a year. That's what's going down, all right?
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is Patrick Mahomes?
What do you think he sees outside of the top
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ten in terms of quarterbacks paid?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
What are your thoughts on Mahomes as.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Everybody's starting to get more money per year than him?
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to Wear or Patrick Broomes is contract your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
All right?
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Innocent, Corona, California. You're on the Yad couple Fox Sports Radio, Innis.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
What's up, hey, Chris, welcome back. I think Rob. I
think Rob's so angry because you got faty and all those.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Cupcakes last right, Oh my god, you're right. Yeah, I'm
sure he was.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
Rob beside himself.
Speaker 10 (17:08):
But no, I agree with Rob.
Speaker 9 (17:11):
Look, eventually they're not going to always keep winning, and
he's gonna be making less money than probably a third
he's already making less money than the third of the
league now, and to what end, Like, while they're winning,
maybe he thinks it's a good thing, but they're eventually
not going to win it every single season, and he's
gonna sit there thinking, why am I taking a discount?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
He could hold out, if you if it gets to
that point, he could just hold out get the new
deal because he can read hide his deal every year.
Speaker 9 (17:42):
Yeah, but then why aren't they doing it? Like they
should start doing that now, because why you're sworn to nobody.
You sing to nobody.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Last year, he won't be this year. They upgraded the
receiving group and they got other players at other positions,
and it's.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I'm with you. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Tim
in Atlanta, you're on the Yond couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
What's up, Chili? Tim?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yo?
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Whatever?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
But Chris, what's that man?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (18:11):
I missed you last week. Rob, I was on vacation
and my wife took me away.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
For a week.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Where'd you go? Where'd you go?
Speaker 11 (18:18):
We went down to Jaco Island. I'm not sure if
you're communied with that.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Here on the coast of Georgia, it's really nice.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Oh, I've been to high but I've never been to
jack when when everything's not funny. Alex clearly didn't like Alan. No,
not your best work.
Speaker 11 (18:39):
But yeah, I turned fifty six glass week.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Oh wow, congratulates older than You're a young guy.
Speaker 11 (18:46):
Yeah, I'm younger. I retired young. I got my my
my twenty five in the government early.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
So you go, there you go.
Speaker 11 (18:55):
But yeah, so I was telling about GM. You know
some of these owners, could you know they could stop
some of this progression of these contracts by not paying
these guys like Daniel Brown or too like if they
stand up to them and say, you know what, you're
not fat your homes, so therefore you know you're not
going to get the contracting. If you want to shit out,
(19:15):
sit out, you know, but I'm not going to give
you that until you start showing me something. You know
more than that, you do the next guy up the
line so they can control this kind of thing. And
then my other thing is Fat Mahomes. You know, if
we say we got to stay out of other people's pockets,
and if he's cool with that, that's what he wants
to do. And he's cool, he's happy with that.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know.
Speaker 11 (19:35):
Sometimes you know, you show the other guys in your
locker room that you're not selfish.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
No, but can I say, tim, let me say this,
and your point is well taken and keep them on
the line, and you're You're right. If he wants to
do it, it's fine. But you do when you're Patrick
Mahomes and you could set the market, you do hurt
You could hurt other people by doing that. And what
I mean by that is how much would Joe Burrow
be making if Patrick Mahomes took its real work. Joe
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Burrow might be making even more money?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Do you see what I'm saying? He needs more?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I mean, come on, it's not about what you need get,
It's not wasn't about talking about not about what you're
asking about.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That's how you live your life.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
That's about Barker, That's how you live your What is
it about?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's not the.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Dallas Cowboys charged twenty three dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Will you tell me what it's about?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
That's what I'm talking about, is that when you tell
me what it's about, what is it enough?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Joe Burrow ain't getting paid. Joe Burrow getting.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
More money at least on the APR or annual percentage
than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Right, but if hurt and Joe Burrow, But if Patrick
Mahomes would have taken his real.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Work, Joe Burrow possibility ain't Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Stop it, Joe Burrow, he ain't limited. He getting plenty
of money. Quintess in Las Vegas. You're on the Odd
Couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Hello, Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I have to say that I have to agree with
Chris on this one just because of the simple fact
when you're younger, I feel like you should focus more
on winning and just utilizing your talents. Because across all sports,
about sixty to seventy percent of people go broke after
they retire anyway, So if you just focus on making
smart investments.
Speaker 10 (21:19):
You'll have money anyways at the end, and it to
kind of be like that Kobe Bryant situations, where like,
if you're getting all this money, you should do that
around the time when you're retiring. But you see how
he capped his team. He couldn't do anything when he
was retiring. All he could do was just play.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
So well, Also, when you win, I didn't want to
play with Kobe, couldn't get a track anybody.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
When you win, you get more endorsements too.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I mean, Mahomes making something like twenty million a year
off endorsements too, So that's that's something.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
So if he had more money, he wouldn't make the
endorsement money. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, no, he might not win, so but but I
don't know that he wouldn't. I'm not saying he definitely
if you know, but he might not.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
So what if you would win, have a higher contract
and then make the endorsement money.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
We'd have that too, right, Well, if he.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Could win, making you know, a certain higher percentage of
the cap, sure, but there's no guarantee you would Rotgie
Stafford ain't even in Patrick Mahone's class.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Money because it was money.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
He got his money, and everybody.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Makes it like if you win, you get money. You
nobody's saying you can't.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm not saying you can't, but I'm saying it makes
it easier to have better players around you. If you're
not making you know, the absolute violence, you know ultimate
you could make, and then that improves your chances of winning.
All right, Jared Weiss from the Athletic will join us next.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
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Speaker 1 (22:54):
And our next guest does a great job covering the
NBA and the Celtics. For the Athletic. We welcome in
Jared Weiss. Jared, Welcome to the OC UP.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
What's happening, Let's good fellows. Greatod to have you on.
Man now obviously the real voice as a writer woman.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, yeah, you could move into this in the future
if you want.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Oh, I started, I started behind the mic. I had
to pick up the pen later.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Okay, oh there you go.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
All right, all right, Jason Tatum benched you cover the Celtics.
I mean, what an offseason. I mean, Jaylen Brown doesn't
make the team or you know, get chosen for the team,
Jason Tatum gets benched and Drew Holliday and Derek Wider playing.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
So what what do you make of this whole situation?
Speaker 7 (23:41):
I mean, it's funny how the Celtics win a championship
having their most kind of calm drama three season imaginable,
and then it's just been pandemodium the second season ended.
Everything has been up in the air, and it's funny.
Jason Tatum, I remember talking to him earlier this year
and he said that he thinks he has a chance
to be the face of the NBA in the future,
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and that conversation is not going to start until he
wins a championship. So he goes and he wins a title.
The first game after winning a title, he gets a DMP,
And it's just it's funny how this thing works. But
you look at the way that they've been running Team USA,
and they've been starting Devin Booker and Drew Holliday or
I think two guys that people expected to come off
the bench early on and maybe Tatum would be starting,
(24:23):
and then they're faith in Serbia. They need extra bigs
against Jokic, so they am out of bio and ag
are coming off the bench. I don't think they're probably
going to play two bigs off the bench most of
the time. So maybe that gives Tatum a chance to
get minutes in the future, but this is probably mostly
just a matchup thing and maybe Tatum plays the rest
(24:43):
of the way.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
But it does And you got to admit that Jared
dead for Tatum. It's an embarrassing thing from the standpoint.
That is just another situation where he feels like he's
not getting the respect. Don't you whether he played four
minutes other guys are playing. My god, it was a
blowout win. You couldn't find four or five minutes to
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play him. It just feels like it was unnecessary by
Steve Kerr.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
Well, that's the weird thing there. It's hard to figure
out what to do. Is you could put him in
for garbage time and then is that a bit of
a fight that you're only playing him in garbage But you.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Could ask him, couldn't you ask him do you want
to go in? As is all it is, and he
has the right to say nah rather not. And then
when people say, how come, Well, you know, the game
came down to it or whatever, and he didn't want
to go in, and it's all good and he'll play
the next game, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Like, there's an opportunity.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
If you do it that way, then he's a bad
guy for not wanting to come in, right so now.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
In a blowout win, I don't think he's a bad guy.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I think that's out of respect to say, do you
want to go in during garbage time?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I don't think that's an indictment of him.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
I know Jason Satum. He would never say no to
take it the floor, like they have to fight him
to even take res games during the year. So you's
sure as hell is going to play for Team USA
if he gets a chance. So you know, I would
have put him in there at the end of the
game if it was me. But you know, Steve Curran
is a little bit more about coaching than I do,
so I'll defer to his manager of the situation. But
like this is this is going to happen for Team USA,
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Like they've they got twelve great players there and Tatum
sticks out just because he just won a championship and
he's been playing phenomenally as the plea. Well, it's funny
to keep in mind he also just finished the season, and.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, but he's on the team, and you can't use
that he's on the team. The other guys Drew Holliday
and Derek White on the team too, didn't They just
finished their season. They played and the women's they won
by twenty six and a blowout, and everybody played in
that game. I mean, come on like that, like you're
being You're giving Steve Kerr pass and he easily could
(26:50):
have done it.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
They did it on the women's side.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
That team is seventy and one in their last seventy
one Olympic games, So somehow they found a way to
get everybody in the game.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I agree with you, I don't agree with the way
that kurk kemel. I just don't see it as as
like a humiliating thing for Tatum so much as that
like this is this is like the serious competition. Now
it's only forty minutes and they're playing in teen man rotation.
But yeah, I think I don't have a problem with
the temn rotation and Tatum not playing. But I agree
I would have put him in at the end of
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the game.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Obviously, you know, we got several games left for him
to play. Who knows, Tatum may, you know, play twenty
minutes a game the rest of their way?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But as it stands right now, with Jalen Brown not
on the team and three Celtics are, and then Drew
Holliday and Derek White are playing, at.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Least to this point, more than Jason Tatum.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
If it were to continue this way, I mean, I'm
not saying Tatum won't play at all, but you know
he wasn't getting the minutes that those guys are getting.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Could you see this?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
How could you see this impacting the Celtics season? Maybe
positively in that Jalen and Jason might be motivated, or
negatively in that maybe they'll feel slighted because role players
were actually getting more playing time and even on the
team than them.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
How do you think this could affect him?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
I think it's probably a positive from Boston's perspective, because
this is just putting another chip on their shoulder when
you could have imagined them having one on their shoulder
after winning the championship. What better way to get them
motivated by humbling them and making them pissed off Anie
into the next season. They're definitely not going to be
mad at Drew Halidy and Derek White, Like who's going
to be mad at those guys? They're both like the
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most humble, hard working guys imaginable who squeeze more out
of their careers than just ft anyone else out there.
So it's this is a great thing for Boston frankly,
like Jalen gets all this validation during the playoffs and
then has this half of a Team USA, and so
he's going to come into the season clearly with something
to prove. Same thing with Tatum, with the situations, very
possibly feels the same way. The concern for the Celtics
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is in so much are these guys going to be motivated?
The concern is are these guys going to continue to
buy in and are they going to have the harmony
that they had last season that made them so good.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Let me ask you this because obviously lebron kd Steph
you would think this is their last Olympics. Tatum is
clearly one of the key cogs for Team USA going forward.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
He's already what this is his second one, I.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Believe, So I mean do you think if this were
to continue, even if it's not benched every game, but
maybe it's just small minutes, five six minutes a game.
Could you see him, you know, in the future, maybe
not wanting to play for Team USA or anything like that.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
No, that that doesn't make sense. Rights to still flighted
that he didn't get enough minutes because Kevin Durant was
not missing any shots. Like, you have to earn it,
you have to work your way up, and Tatum is
still early in his career and there's still a lot
of great players ahead of them. And also, like you know,
some these guys that are getting the VET minutes, they
might not necessarily be better if he just gave them
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a team in the NBA. Right now, these guys are
more season, they're more they're you know, they're more qualified
for this moment. And also the USA is so good
they could just kind of play their vets for now
and you know it figured it out from there. We'll
see what happens at the very end. But also Lebron
and kat are playing out of their minds right now.
Liken Lebron is playing like he's in his early thirties again,
and Katie's not missing, So JT has to earn these minutes.
(30:29):
He can't just win a championship, have a great closeout
game and just walk into performing at this level. We're
talking about Lebron and Katie and step here.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Yeah, but the future is you would say Tatum has
had some career thus far. It finally broke through and
won a championship, but he's been really good the last
four years or whatnot.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
He's a star in the league, the first team All NBA.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Yeah, I mean that that's the part where I think
it just feels like maybe he just doesn't get he's
the Rodney Danger feel of the current NBA. You know,
let's not get in the respect and I'm not saying
you're going to elevate him over other people, but I
do think that this guy is wearing something where people
still just on buying into him. That's what it feels
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like to.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Me, And you're right, and that's you know, that's how
he feels like. We had a good talk about it
earlier this year where he said on the record that
he feels like he's not getting the same kind of
he feels like he's held to a different standard than
most of the other younger players. Yeah, NBA. I think
Jalen feels the same way, and a lot of that
is born out of that. They play for this massive
(31:35):
market team who has always had the highest expectations every
year at championship or bus for the Celtics, and they've
been competing for championships since the second they got in
the league, and so they weren't relieve and ready to
contend for a title until basically last year. But the
teams they've been on have been so good that they've
been't put into that position early on, and so they
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failed and succeeded so much in their careers, but at
a level that's like more than almost anyone that's ever
played in NBA history. Like what they're doing, at least
in this era is extremely rare, and so their breakthrough
feels like I think for a lot of fans out there,
especially a lot of kind of casual ish fans out there,
I think a lot of them felt like, oh, it's
about time. Like they almost weren't excited for the Jays
(32:19):
because they were just like, oh, well, it took you
long enough, huh. But that's it's rare that people ever
win before they hit their prime at like twenty seven,
twenty years old in this league, and what they're doing
is ahead of the curve for just about everybody else
in their era.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Before you go in quickly, Rob and I thought Tatum
should have got the MVP in the absolutely, I mean
it was I thought it was closed. I don't think
it was like egregious and egregious error because.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Obviously Brown played well and Tatum, you know, not in
a close out game.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Chris twenty two or whatever it was, yeah, twenty yeah,
I think it was twenty two. But anyway, but you know,
Tatum let them in points, rebounds, and assist and didn't
get them. V what was your thought? Do you think
Jalen should have got it or Jason?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
That was such a tough call. I wasn't one of
the voters on that one. I think the reason Jalen
caught it was just because he was playing better in
the first three games and the series kind of over
by game three, because JT's Game five performance was like
the best game of his career, like he was incredible
in that game. But I think because people felt like
the series is over at that point, they were willing
(33:24):
to give it to Jalin.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
All Right, that's Jared Weiss covers the Celtics in the
NBA at Large for the ass letting great stuff.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Man, thank you, thanks so much, guys.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
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I talked at the top of the show about Kevin
Durant and how well he played in his debut for
this year's Olympics, and he's really the perfect uh player
(35:19):
for Team USA. Uh what were you surprised at, you know,
with him have not having played in any of the
exhibition games, didn't practice uh until a few days ago,
and was a you know, decided to play like an
hour before the game.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Were you surprised at the way he came out and
how strong you was?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Uh? Yeah, I just didn't know what to expect, you
know what I mean, when a guy hasn't played, you
don't know if he'll have a little rust on him.
Chris and That's that's all. I mean, not that Kenny
play if he's healthy.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
We not.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
This dude is a baller, like one of the best
to play the game. So it was just that, not
considering like he didn't have the other warm ups in
the pre whatever you want to call him more you know,
exhibition games, Chris, he didn't have that stuff, So it
was just kind of weird that he would just come
out there and completely dominate.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And be as great as he was. He was tremendous. Yeah,
he was killing.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I mean, there's no if saying or butts about it.
And I think Rob, because obviously Lebron has been terrific.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Lebron's been probably.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
The best player for Team USA through the exhibition Games
and Game one at least of the Olympics. Anthony Davis
has been great, but Lebron's been the key. And I
think what it is a lot of people, you know,
obviously he's thirty nine years old, but Rob, we're talking
(36:44):
about six games, right, and we're talking about if you
count the exhibitions, I think it might be ten games
or whatever. And when you get older and you know this,
it's not that you can't go out there and get busy.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
For you know, stretches. It's that you can't generally.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Do it to the level you used to over eighty
two games and then the playoffs. And so I think
ROB a ten six game format, ten game format, whatever
you want to call it, where you're only playing twenty
five minutes or so, the team doesn't you know, when
you come out, that team doesn't lose the lead, they
(37:25):
don't fall behind because you got other great players and
you're playing so infrequently as far as minutes and actual
games that ROB you can go all out on defense
and a lot of what Lebron's creating is off defense.
And so I think that's why him and maybe KD
(37:47):
and the older players are actually really excelling to the point.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I mean, like I said, Lebron's just been the best player.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Yeah, that could be the case. And knowing also Chris
that uh, it's it's you know, how many games you're playing,
do you know what I mean? Compared to And.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
It's right, right, it's not it's not.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Uh, you're getting ready for a eighty two game season
and posted like.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
You know what it is, go back to back and.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
There's a lot there's a lot of things to just
figure out and say all right, I know what I
need to do and I know how to get this done.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
And you don't have to carry the team. You know
what I'm saying, Like, I think that's why Lebron, you know,
is able to accel. I mean this doesn't mean next year.
I mean you hear people saying he's the best player
in the league. I mean that's a lot different eighty
two games.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
It's a more athletic league
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Than the Olympics, so take that in consideration.
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