August 2, 2024 • 39 mins
Former NFL quarterback Shaun King is in for Rob, and he and Chris discuss whether or not Dak Prescott needs to leave the Dallas Cowboys ‘circus’ after this upcoming season, share their thoughts on the exploding NFL quarterback salary market, tell us if we can expect another NBA Super Team to come out of this current Team USA squad and debate whether the NFL’s new ‘dynamic kickoff’ was even necessary.
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(00:57):
lot of nonsense going on down there. They haven't signed
any of their three stars that need deals or want
deal CD Lamb, the wide receiver, Michael Parsons, the great
defensive player, and of course the quarterback Dak Prescott. Stephen
Jones has spoken recently they sent a contract to Dak
(01:18):
and CD, and I know Stephen Jones has said they
just received a counter from CD, so you know, we'll
see how that ends up.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
But he also.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Spoke to Albert Breer about how things are going with
Dak and Robb G's gonna read this quote from Stephen
Jones force.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
So it was part of a longer form column by
Albert Breer, is his weekly mail bag column, and he's
talking about Dak Prescott's future with the Cowboys. That a
reader had asked him, what are the chances you think
that Dak leaves us next offseason? And Albert Breer surprisingly
said he put about ten percent, So he's inferring then
suggesting ninety percent chance that not only does Dak stay
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with Dak Ellis, but that the deal gets done this
season or even before the season. And he referenced to
quote that he had during a conversation with Stephen Jones
from last week. Here's what Jones said about the ongoing
quarterback market. He said, quote, it seems like it's hit
a peak. It used to be everybody was jumping each other.
Lawrence got fifty five, which was the high water mark
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that Borough set before. It didn't matter if you were
the best, if you're mahomes, you just leap frog the
next guy. You're not seeing that now and it's kind
of hit a ceiling. That led Breer to suggest that
because these contracts are all kind of staying around the
same number, that would increase heavily the chances that Dak
stays in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Well, he's right about that because we I mean, Jimmy
Garoppolo was the highest paid player in the league, Matthew
Stafford was the highest paid player in the league. So
he's right that that doesn't seem to be automatic anymore,
just for the next good quarterback who's up. So I
agree with him on now, I don't. I still think
right now Dak wants more than anybody's getting paid out there,
(03:04):
and right now probably will get it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But here's where I want to go with this, Sean.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I for years I felt like, like most of his career,
I was like, man, Dak Prescott should, thank God, should
count his blessings that he is the Dallas Cowboys quarterback.
And I've never said he's not good. He is good,
and he's very good. But I've always said he would
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not be nearly as famous, he would not have the
endorsement profile that he has right now if he were
not the Cowboys quarterback. Dak Prescott is a celebrity. Dak
Prescott is one of the most known players in football
because he's the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. But recently, over the
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last several months, I've started to change my tune a
little bit on this and I'm feeling like, you know what,
if the Cowboys, Sean are looking at this as a
proven year for Dak, like, show us what you can do.
We've given you a lot of talent, you haven't been
able to get even to the conference championship game.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Prove it. It's approven year for you.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I think that should be looking at the Cowboys like, yeah,
and it's approven year for you too, Because I really
am starting to believe now, Sean, that if Dak Prescott,
let's say this season goes the way that all the
Cowboys seasons seem to go, and they, you know, they
have a good regular season and bow out in the
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first or second round of the playoffs, and if there
are legitimate, strong franchises out there that are willing to
pay Dak Prescott what Dallas will pay her more.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I'm talking about the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It doesn't work out with Fields or Wilson this year,
they want Dak. I'm talking about the Giants, if Malik Neighbors,
the rookie Ride receiver, show some promise this year and
they look decent, whether they bring in a Belichick or
Vrabel or even stick with Dable, Like, could Dak go there?
Obviously that's a legitimate franchise. You're in a big market. Still,
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maybe the Raiders, I mean I think they got some
you know, they're not the best run franchise. But if
they show promise with Antonio Pierce, who I like, you
obviously have Devonte Adams.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I mean, if they have a.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Decent year and things are looking up under Antonio, that's
another place. I just think, Sean, that Dak Prescott would
benefit from going to a football franchise and not a
production company that plays football, which is what I think
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the Dallas Cowboys are. I think a place that's football first,
second and third.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Sense. We're here to play.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Football, And I Mike Tomlin, I would love to see
Dak in Pittsburgh. I think that would benefit him because
even though I don't think he's like the top five quarterback,
I do think he's a guy.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, you win a Super Bowl with him? So do
you agree with me?
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Like?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I think he needs to really think about this and
get away, maybe get away from the circus that is
Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
I think it would help Dak immensely in between the
lines to get somewhere else, to kind of leave some
of that accumulated baggage in Dallas, kind of go somewhere
that's been dying for a quarterback, Say Sam Darnold and
JJ McCarty don't work out in Minnesota, going to Midnesota,
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you know, somewhere like that. Here's the problem with the
They probably gonna give McCarthy a shot, you know. Yeah,
But here's the problem where the implementation of what you said,
even though what you said was the truth, the National
Football League has the most ineffective players union of any
of the big three pro sports agree they got manhandled
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in the collective bargaining agreement and allowed the owners to
put the greatest poison pill we've ever seen when it
comes to contract fairness in professional sports, and that's the
franchise tag.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
So at the end of the day, any of.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
These guys that have years remaining on their contract, it's
not even okay. Let me acquiesce to what the team
wants and play my contract out and then I'll be
free and I can enter the open market and have
the teams you mentioned getting a bidding war.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Howboy franchised that though the Cowboys can't franchise.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
That rib g, there's the clause in his contract. I
believe that is correct.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
He will be a free and clear, no taggable free agent.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Acy he's the only player in the NFL that has that.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
He might be because he negotiated in his last contract.
He did two things. He took no tagging, and he
took a shorter deal than most people were taking.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
Well, I'm smart, smart played by Dak in that instance.
Then if I'm Dak, I don't sign with the Cowboys
no matter what they offer.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Really, because that'sause of money.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
That's strictly money.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Oh now what about Okay, if I'm to shit more
money with just Dallas, I can't counter with another offer.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
If I'm an unrestricted free agent and Dallas wants to
keep me, Dallas is no longer in a position of
power if they really want to keep me, because somebody
else has offered me something I didn't realize he had
did only contract with the with the no franchise clause
tag clause, I can actually leave now.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
No, I agree with that. But what I'm asking you,
let's say, take out the money. Do you think he
should even not sign with them just because, man.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know, I'm not going to move on from this circus.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
To you, it's kind of like the gift and the
curse because you mentioned the playoff failures, and I mean
it's evident that.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
That's the issue.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Regarding Dak Prescott. If you look at his regular scenes
and numbers I think he's been in the league. This
is year nine. He's averaged about thirty seven hundred yards,
twenty five touchdowns, eight or nine picks. So he's been
a really good quarterback consistently in the regular season.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
He's failed in the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
But here's the silver line, and here's the part of
goal at the end of the rainbow. If you can
bring another championship to Dallas, you elevate your Q rate
and your level of celebrity. I mean, you're up there.
I mean with the Lebron James and such unprofessional sports.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
No, I agree, and there is an incredible benefit to
playing for the Dallas Cowboys. It's almost like, I mean,
they've been historically obviously a much better franchise than the Knicks.
But it's kind of like that same situation where if
you lead the Knicks to a championship, you're gonna count
for like at like two in another place, right, And
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so I agree with that. With the Cowboys, I just
wonder though, Like I just think I personally feel some
people disagree with me that Jerry Jones has created a
culture there that makes it difficult to win at the
highest level. I just think I don't think football is
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the primary I think I think I've always said this, Sean.
You know how Bull Durham was a movie. It wasn't
a baseball movie. It was a movie, a drama that
revolved around baseball. Absolutely loving basketball wasn't It was a
love story that revolved around basketball. I think the Cowboys
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are like a drama, a soap opera that revolves around football.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Here's the only pushback I'll give you, and I get
what you're saying, But how is that a bad thing
for a player in a league where you perform with
a helmet on? And then I would ask which of
these Cowboy teams have underachieved?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Well, I think several of these in the playoffs have underachieved.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
As listened all of the blame falls.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
On last year.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
They clearly under achieved, but they weren't better then.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
They were better than Green Bay.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
They weren't playing.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Not that day.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
They look terrible, but they had won one sixteen fifteen
or sixteen straight games.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Have green Bay was incredibly young.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I just feel like the constant, like the circus atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I've heard reporters talk about actors.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Being at training camp and people walking through the building
when you're working out and coming in and taking pictures
or staying out and you know, through the glass taking pictures.
I just think that those are distractions. And when you're
talking about world class athletes, a distraction. Sean, you know this.
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I mean, let's look at track and field. The difference
between winning gold and not even meddling in the hunts,
I mean will maybe be.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
A tenth of a second.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And that's the difference between these great athletes. The difference
between a solid, you know, quarterback and even a superstar.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's not that huge. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
You're all these guys, including you, when you play, all
of y'all are in like the ninety ninth percentile of
world athletes, and so the difference between winning and losing
is slight. So those constant distractions, I think that it's
just a bad culture, and I think it takes away
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from the team just enough to keep them from winning.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
I think you make some good points, but Chris, at
the end of the day, I rather be somewhere where
they care too much to be somewhere where they don't
care at all.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I don't know that they care to I think they
care about winning or no, I'm sorry, I keep think
they care about making money.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
But just the oranization I'm talking about the fan base
value be high, but I'm talking about the fan base,
the city, the expectations like, well, you're not just leaving
Jerry Jones, you're also leaving the most passionate fan base
in all of professional football.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, I agree, and that is a national fan base, right.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
The cowm White fans are everywhere, I agree, no matter what.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
The Giants are passionate, the I mean, the Cowboy fans
are passionate, but the Cowboys are national.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
And the Cowboys are the most delusional fan base. Every
year they are confident they're winning him these years with
the Giants and Jets and some of these other passionate
fan bases, be like, I know what's going to be.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Terribistic, right, It's interesting, But now you have you have
been We were about to move on.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You have been active on x formerly known as Twitter.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Talk to them up an these contracts, man, we're gonna have
to get into that because you've been going hard in
some of these dudes that just got paid.
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Speaker 1 (16:16):
Twitter taking shots, Rob.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
G explain, that is an understatement, my friend. But the
most egregious tweet of them all, oh shut out to
Seawn Ky. He shared a video of five young men
looks like they're part of a boy band dancing in
perfect sync. The caption reads Burrow Herbert loved to and
(16:41):
hurts after getting a combined one point two to five
billion dollars for winning no Rings, and Sean King retweeted
it hashtag facts.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Wow, what is up with that? Mister King?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
They shut out to Brad Gluckman.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
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Speaker 6 (17:21):
I know the background, But none of those guys at
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Want in.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
So watch this.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
So here's why I've made the associate the yeah, the attachment.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
I touched them.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
I associated this same person's dressed five different ways with
this group. I mean you're telling me Joe Burrow, justin, Herbert,
Jordan Love, Ta and Hurts all have the same value
in today's National Football League play.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
So they new contracts absolutely.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
I mean Burrow got fifty five a year, Jordan Love
got fifty five a year, Tua got fifty three, Herbert
got fifty two, Hurts got fifty one. I just thought
it was a great fit. Meaning it don't really matter
what you look like or if you can really play
or not. In twenty twenty four in the National Football League,
you just got to be up for a contract in quarterback.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
So okay, so you're not necessarily ripping these guys, No,
not at all.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
Absolutely, What is your Okay, I'm envys and jealous that
I'm not still a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah no, I understand that for sure, brother.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But what is your like? So, what is your take
on this? It's not sustainable guys getting paid. It's not sustainable.
Like something's got to give at some point.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
And listen, I want everybody to get paid and make
their money, especially in football because it's such a potentially
short career because of the physical component of it.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
But I mean, come on, like.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Really like it's gotten to the point now like just
anybody at quarterback getting paid, and it's a big reason
I think the Cowboys have not paid that. I mean,
what's Dak's market If Trevor Lawrence just signed a deal
to become the highest paid quarterback in history and Jordan
Loves comes behind him. I mean, if you're the Cowboys
and Dak, like Dak's better than Trevor Lawrence and Jordan Love,
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somebody are gonna get Dak sixty.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
No, I mean that's what people are thinking.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
I mean, so, I mean it's some some teams that
have some kind of fiscal responsibility looking at some of
these teams that don't and misten more power to tour too.
Is not the fourth best quarterback in the National Football League?
If not, in the hell is he making the fourth
most money?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Well, I mean that's not new.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Matthew Stafford was never the best quarterback in the league,
and he was highest paid.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Jimmy Garoppolo was never the best quarterback in the league.
He was the highest paid.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
So Stafford is one of my top three best quarterbacks
now are right?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Well, now that's too high for me.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
I'm not a Garoppolo card guy, per se.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I think they were highest paid quarterbacks in the league
at one point.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yeah, I mean, I'm happy to what these guys.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
I mean, every former quarterback is looking at these numbers
like Jimminy Christmas.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
You know, it is amazing when you say that, because
I just and I've thought about it in terms of
the NBA, and I look back to when Lebron James
and obviously he's gotten new money too, but you know
when he was getting I don't know what, five year
ninety million dollar contract or something like that, four years,
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eighty million, whatever it might have been, and that was
huge money. And now Jason Tatum's got four what he
just signed a five year, fourteen million dollar cont like
the money man. Even and I'm not implying that it
wasn't humongous money when Lebron was young, you know, like
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early in the league, but even it is making that
type of money look like nothing. And I know, Sean,
you feel like, my goodness, Hey.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Chris, let me put this in personal perspective for you.
In two thousand and one, which is only twenty three
years ago, So two decades ago. I'm coming off a
year where I was the starting quarterback in Tampa, helped
the team go ten and six, we made the playoffs.
I had a positive touchdown the interception ratio. Was about
to go into my third year in the league thinking that, okay, boom,
like this is the year we're gonna take off. I'm
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established myself at this level as one of the dudes.
They brought in Brad Johnson on a five year, twenty
five million dollar deal. Five years, twenty five million. Think
about that.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Wow, and that was big money.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Matthew Stafford is fourteenth on the list of quarterbacks right now.
He's making forty million a year.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, that's crazy. Twenty five million.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Yes, and we won a super Bowl with Brad.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yep, yep, No, it's it's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
This is so answer. But I'm happy for these guys. Man.
Trust me, when when when.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Former quarterbacks talk about these contracts, it is in no
way malicious or or or we don't want them to
get that money. It's just so frustrating for us.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Well, gosh, you're trying to giggle and chuckle. But we
know it sounds like it's coming from a bad but
you're human. Bro Let's look.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Could could Could another NBA super team or even super duo.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
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Speaker 1 (22:53):
Sean.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
A lot of times, you know, great players in the
NBA get together in the summer for team and sometimes
they discuss, you know, hey man, it'd be cool if
we could all play together and win a championship. And
Brian Wenthorse plugged in with the NBA the Great Reporter,
was talking on his podcast about this and he said,
(23:16):
this is not a report, so this is not something
that is you know, we're reporting it or he's reporting
is in the works. But he said people are always
asking him, you know, what relationships are coming out of this,
and are any players whispering sweet nothings to one another
about teaming up? Together, and he just said that Anthony
(23:38):
Edwards is following Kevin Durant around like he's his little brother.
And Durant, of course, is Anthony Edwards's favorite player. He's
the guy Anthony Edwards grew up idolizing. And I'll be honest,
if that's how Anthony Edwards treats his idols, then.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Mike, don't make me one. I mean, he'd be.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Dunking on Duran and outstitting from the playoffs in unceremonious
fashion and sweeping him and all that talking trash. But Sean,
it is look financially possible. I mean, it's a simple
(24:24):
trade for the Phoenix Sons to trade Kevin Durant to
the Minnesota Timberwolves for Karl Anthony Towns. Now, they would
both have to add in one player to really make
it work financially, but they could easily do that.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And it makes sense for both teams.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I do think going into the season that the Phoenix
Sons feel like, let's see what we can do with
KD and Booker and Beale. And I think that the Timberwolves,
with such a great year last year, want to, you know,
run it back.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
But if neither team is looking as good.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Like if the Timberwolves aren't quite as dominant as maybe
they and we feel they should be, and the Sons
are just stagnant and looking like a fifth or sixth
seed in the West, then maybe at the trade deadline
would they consider making this deal.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And for Phoenix, it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Even though Kat's not as good as Durant, he's much younger.
He's twenty eight, Bookers twenty seven. They played together at
Kentucky in college one year. They are obviously, like I said,
both on the same timetable. And if you're not winning
with Durant, then go younger. But you're not rebuilding with
these two who are stars.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
And then for Minnesota, I'll say this, if they could
pull that off, to me, they're the favorite to win
the championship, right and.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Again it's like you speak truth, Chris, Like everything you
say is actual and it makes sense except for one
pertinent detail. Matt it's been just paid four billion dollars
for the Suns, and he's made it crystal clear he
didn't buy a team to trade Kevin Durant.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah, but if they're not winning, they're not gonna win it.
I don't think they you think they're gonna win the championship.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
No, but they don't. They definitely don't have a shot.
If they trade Durant for Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Well, but you can rebuild, you cannot not rebuild, reload,
I should say, on with a younger team because Durant's
age and I believe.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
They're gonna give him a shot this season.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
But my point is, if come February it's not worth
looking right, that's ain't and on. Obviously it's gonna work
to some degree, but I'm saying if they look like
a fifth or sixth seed, not on the level of
you know, the OKCS and the Timberwolves and the Denver Nuggets,
and it looks like another first round oustro is coming.
Maybe I get it that it is a bit of
(26:58):
a pipe drink, but I'm just saying it. It's not
like the bat the worst idea for the.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Suns, Yeah, it's not. I do think they'd asked for
more than cat Well, they got picked.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Yeah, they probably want and.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Could give them. Well, no, Minnesota doesn't that.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
I'd want Dillingham, you know, plus maybe one of the
young wings McDaniels or so, like, I want more than
just cat.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
It's tough because they have to Like Minnesota is a
second aprom team.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
So they got a best of contracts.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah, so it's it's and then you can't aggregate players
all the time, like it's it'll be a challenge if
indeed wherever they get.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Let me ask you, this.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
Is Durant's decision to leave Golden State Company, like the
most regrettable decision a superstar has ever made in professional sports.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
A terrible decision.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
You haven't been happy since well.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
He wasn't happy there either, it seems.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
But at least you had a chance to win and
lot and everywhere else.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, no, I look, I applauded him when he because
I felt like, you know, obviously a lot of people
have belittled or questioned his rings in Golden State, and
I applauded him, like he's about to go somewhere and
you know, try to win it with.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
His own team. And he had enough, he had enough talent.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
You know, with Kyrie, and when they especially when they
got James Harden and I'm a look, for the most part,
they didn't get a chance because of the injuries, Kyrie
being unvaccinated and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Going on.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
But the one year he did have a shot, when
Kyrie at least was healthy, he had two shots. You know,
they lost to Milwaukee. He played great in the second round,
but they got swept by Boston. He got out played
by Jason Tatum.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
So fast forward to now Chris did that decision doesn't
have an impact now on what you're saying, are guys
now more hesitant to leave somewhere they're having success if
it's not a money thing.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Ah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I don't know, because I can't think of any that
we've seen like that, you know what I mean? Where
I mean, it's very rare that a person leaves the
team after winning two championships in the last three years
with him, you know, So that was Durant is just
a wander he's a wanderlust or I don't know. But look,
bottom line is this, if he has stayed in Golden State,
(29:26):
least at least more at least one more, but I
think they may have gotten two more.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Let's say he's got three.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Let's say he's got three or four rings from Golden State,
and honestly it'd be more. Let's say he got four rings,
and I think that's been the foe. Yeah, it could
have been fired. But let's say he got four rings
from Golden State. Is now, if that were the case,
(29:53):
he would be being discussed as a top ten player
of all.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
And then I wouldn't have to argue with you, I
have being better than than joke it, Yo, He ain't.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
He ain't better than yo.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But if he stayed in one wouldn't have to right, Yeah,
I mean, but he that's the that's like Steph Durant
would be viewed historically is better than Steph right now,
I believe you think, yeah, he would have because he
was the best player on that team. Now it's Steph
(30:24):
being able to win it without Durant and win two
without Durant, you know, the one before he got there
and the one after. Steph is viewed higher than Durant,
ranked higher historically on most people's you know lists, than
Durant and Durant. I don't need it. If Durant hadn't
gone to Golden State, he might not have. I think
there's a great chance he don't have a ring period.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
It just depends on where they ended up.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
But I do think from a legacy standpoint, he's taking
some huge hits that he's not going to realize and
feel until he's done playing. Because when where he was
status wise after that second championship and go in state
to where he's at status Why he's not even talked
about in the best player in the world conversation?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well, you mean best player in the world right.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Now, right now or the last couple of years because
he's older.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
But even the last couple of years, he hadn't really
been in that conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But he should should he be? He shouldn't be.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
If he stayed in Golden State. Steph's been in the
conversation the last couple of years.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Steph isn't really in the conversation anymore. I mean, and
it's because of age.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Don't get why you don't like Steph?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Y'all about the same height, that got the same Melani
content like about the why is such a stuff hater?
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Man?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Jump on to Mike Roger because you you know how
ridiculous that is to call me a Steph hater.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
It's just a matter of perspective. It's a matter of perspective.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
It doesn't sound like, hold.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
On, Roger, Is there any way I can be declared
to Steph hater to Sean. Yeah, with the last some
fuzzy feelings anything, I mean, hold on. All I said
was this, Steph Curry has never been the best player
in the world. I don't think that's a controversial statement.
(32:08):
Iron Jays and I countered.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
When he's had more impact on the game of basketball.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
And I agree, Well, you didn't actually make it that definitive,
as you said.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
You can argue that. I agree.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You can argue that Steph has changed the game. If
he tries to argue against that is ridiculous. So I
don't see how they You know what's funny, four years
Steph has not been viewed even when they won it,
as the best player in the world.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
The p one listeners of The Odd Couple know Chris
Brussard as a Steph Curry fanboy because Rob is so
anti Steph Curry. On the flip side, now, Sean is
a very big Steph Curry fan and because Chris is
not as big of a fan because now you're hating
because Chris. It's just a matter of perspective, that's all.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Because Chris is object Sean.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Are you was there a term when Steph Curry was
the best player in the world.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I mean I could make an argument, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Argument unless you're gonna say that, Yes, I mean he's
one of you before, right, yep? So is Steve Nash
the best players?
Speaker 7 (33:16):
When when they win the championship with twenty two I
think was the year they won it.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yep, I mean what do he average that year? I
mean he's number twenty five. I'm just saying when you
take into account.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Twenty five, five and six, I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
He's not better than Lebron.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
He's twenty nine and twenty three and twenty six last year,
like he fell off. What happened to Steph is he
had a messaging problem because he's got another gown his
team that won't stay out of the headlines for the
wrong reasons and Draymond Green. So he encapsulates so much
of the content that's come out of Golden State. People
have kind of not talked about the fact that Steph.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Is still brilliant.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
He is.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Nobody's denying it. What I'm doing, you overstate things. I
was talking to somebody today who is a huge supporter
of de Air Fox, and he texts me, why are
you hating on the air and fight hold on?
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And I said, hating I said, I love Darren.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I just was was you know, I said, I was
just saying he is not in the.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Best player in the world discussion. That's what I said.
And this person who loves Daron was like, oh oh yeah,
that that's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
He just beyond listener you agree with me more and
more every day. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
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off the air. My man Sean King in for Rob Parker.
So Sean, we're watching the you know, the Hall of
Fame game the Texans up seventeen fourteen. Look, I mean
it's been fairly entertaining for a preseason game. I mean,
you know, it's been some decent football. You got case
Keenum out there looking okay, and he threw a touchdown
past the cam aker, so you know it's okay. But
(35:41):
I think one of the things that you know, one
of the new things is the new kickoff format.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
And at first it stunned me. I was like, what's
up with the kid? You know, I knew it, of course,
but just seeing it shocked me.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
But Rob g kind of talk about how this is
being talked a lot about on social media.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Stuf.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Oh, it's a big conversation on social media because it
is the debut of what they're calling the dynamic kickoff.
And I know, if you've the rules are kind of convoluted.
I want to get into it too much, but the
it was, but it was created with the hopes of
adding more action to the kickoff, let's you know, touch
back things of that sort. Well, so far there have
(36:20):
been five kickoffs in this game, be another one pinning
here after this extra point here. They're averaging twenty two
yards per return, so not exactly dynamic and of the
five returns is the best part. There have been two
illegal formation penalties already, so forty percent of the returns
have resulted in illegal formations.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Well, they gonna it's gonna take them a little while
to get.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Used to it.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
But I look, I hear you need.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
None of these kicks has been exciting, but the potential
looks like it is definitely there. You know, when you
look at the format, it does look like somebody could
break it and be gone.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
Sean, I haven't watched the night's game because I'm in
the studio here in Vegas, but I watched the XFL
and it didn't really do anything for me. That's where
they got this from. Right, they tested it in the
XFL and not an implement in the NFL year.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
It looks ridiculous, and you don't think it looks more
like No, I love a kickoff return, as I imagine
you do too. Right, this looks like you could see
more of them, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Devin Hester should open. His Hall of Fame speech was damn,
I'm glad I didn't play now because he didn't in
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
He wouldn't no more kickoff return I don't.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
I don't. I don't at all.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Once you break the first line, you gone.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Man.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Yeah, but again, haven't been on special teams coaching. Like
some of the special teams components before, it's a lot
more detailed than you think. And in sports schemes, the
doctor ABA thinks when it comes to how you block
and how you set up a wall and how you
trap this guy when they're running down, like because the
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proximity is so close from the kick team and the
kick return, the blocking component is no.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Look, I love the old kickoff. I know what you're
saying about.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
You know all the schemes and things like that you
have on kickoffs. But my point is when you in
the old format, you as several levels to get through.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
That's not true in this one.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Maybe it's tougher to get through that first burst and
that first level, but once you do, and obviously you're
a kick return you got speed. Once you get through
that first level, man, you gone.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
I'll see. Maybe it'll grow on me. Maybe it won't.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I mean it may even if you see more returns,
you may not like it.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
I'm just saying, if.
Speaker 7 (38:52):
They don't want the kickoff, just get away with it.
Put the ball to twenty five.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Well, I like the kickoff because don't you think the
kick return is one the most exciting I agree players. Yeah,
in the league, so they basically took it away last year.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
Right, Thanks for having me. Good job of finishing second
to day to most of the show.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
I mean, it was a nice effort by you. But
you'll be back tomorrow to tex You do take a
looking and keep ticking.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I'll give you that, but you a new I expect
that
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(00:57):
lot of nonsense going on down there. They haven't signed
any of their three stars that need deals or want
deal CD Lamb, the wide receiver, Michael Parsons, the great
defensive player, and of course the quarterback Dak Prescott. Stephen
Jones has spoken recently they sent a contract to Dak
(01:18):
and CD, and I know Stephen Jones has said they
just received a counter from CD, so you know, we'll
see how that ends up.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
But he also.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Spoke to Albert Breer about how things are going with
Dak and Robb G's gonna read this quote from Stephen
Jones force.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
So it was part of a longer form column by
Albert Breer, is his weekly mail bag column, and he's
talking about Dak Prescott's future with the Cowboys. That a
reader had asked him, what are the chances you think
that Dak leaves us next offseason? And Albert Breer surprisingly
said he put about ten percent, So he's inferring then
suggesting ninety percent chance that not only does Dak stay
(01:59):
with Dak Ellis, but that the deal gets done this
season or even before the season. And he referenced to
quote that he had during a conversation with Stephen Jones
from last week. Here's what Jones said about the ongoing
quarterback market. He said, quote, it seems like it's hit
a peak. It used to be everybody was jumping each other.
Lawrence got fifty five, which was the high water mark
(02:22):
that Borough set before. It didn't matter if you were
the best, if you're mahomes, you just leap frog the
next guy. You're not seeing that now and it's kind
of hit a ceiling. That led Breer to suggest that
because these contracts are all kind of staying around the
same number, that would increase heavily the chances that Dak
stays in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Well, he's right about that because we I mean, Jimmy
Garoppolo was the highest paid player in the league, Matthew
Stafford was the highest paid player in the league. So
he's right that that doesn't seem to be automatic anymore,
just for the next good quarterback who's up. So I
agree with him on now, I don't. I still think
right now Dak wants more than anybody's getting paid out there,
(03:04):
and right now probably will get it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But here's where I want to go with this, Sean.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I for years I felt like, like most of his career,
I was like, man, Dak Prescott should, thank God, should
count his blessings that he is the Dallas Cowboys quarterback.
And I've never said he's not good. He is good,
and he's very good. But I've always said he would
(03:31):
not be nearly as famous, he would not have the
endorsement profile that he has right now if he were
not the Cowboys quarterback. Dak Prescott is a celebrity. Dak
Prescott is one of the most known players in football
because he's the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. But recently, over the
(03:55):
last several months, I've started to change my tune a
little bit on this and I'm feeling like, you know what,
if the Cowboys, Sean are looking at this as a
proven year for Dak, like, show us what you can do.
We've given you a lot of talent, you haven't been
able to get even to the conference championship game.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Prove it. It's approven year for you.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I think that should be looking at the Cowboys like, yeah,
and it's approven year for you too, Because I really
am starting to believe now, Sean, that if Dak Prescott,
let's say this season goes the way that all the
Cowboys seasons seem to go, and they, you know, they
have a good regular season and bow out in the
(04:38):
first or second round of the playoffs, and if there
are legitimate, strong franchises out there that are willing to
pay Dak Prescott what Dallas will pay her more.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I'm talking about the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It doesn't work out with Fields or Wilson this year,
they want Dak. I'm talking about the Giants, if Malik Neighbors,
the rookie Ride receiver, show some promise this year and
they look decent, whether they bring in a Belichick or
Vrabel or even stick with Dable, Like, could Dak go there?
Obviously that's a legitimate franchise. You're in a big market. Still,
(05:18):
maybe the Raiders, I mean I think they got some
you know, they're not the best run franchise. But if
they show promise with Antonio Pierce, who I like, you
obviously have Devonte Adams.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I mean, if they have a.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Decent year and things are looking up under Antonio, that's
another place. I just think, Sean, that Dak Prescott would
benefit from going to a football franchise and not a
production company that plays football, which is what I think
(05:53):
the Dallas Cowboys are. I think a place that's football first,
second and third.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Sense. We're here to play.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Football, And I Mike Tomlin, I would love to see
Dak in Pittsburgh. I think that would benefit him because
even though I don't think he's like the top five quarterback,
I do think he's a guy.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, you win a Super Bowl with him? So do
you agree with me?
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Like?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I think he needs to really think about this and
get away, maybe get away from the circus that is
Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
I think it would help Dak immensely in between the
lines to get somewhere else, to kind of leave some
of that accumulated baggage in Dallas, kind of go somewhere
that's been dying for a quarterback, Say Sam Darnold and
JJ McCarty don't work out in Minnesota, going to Midnesota,
(06:50):
you know, somewhere like that. Here's the problem with the
They probably gonna give McCarthy a shot, you know. Yeah,
But here's the problem where the implementation of what you said,
even though what you said was the truth, the National
Football League has the most ineffective players union of any
of the big three pro sports agree they got manhandled
(07:12):
in the collective bargaining agreement and allowed the owners to
put the greatest poison pill we've ever seen when it
comes to contract fairness in professional sports, and that's the
franchise tag.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
So at the end of the day, any of.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
These guys that have years remaining on their contract, it's
not even okay. Let me acquiesce to what the team
wants and play my contract out and then I'll be
free and I can enter the open market and have
the teams you mentioned getting a bidding war.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Howboy franchised that though the Cowboys can't franchise.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
That rib g, there's the clause in his contract. I
believe that is correct.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
He will be a free and clear, no taggable free agent.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Acy he's the only player in the NFL that has that.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
He might be because he negotiated in his last contract.
He did two things. He took no tagging, and he
took a shorter deal than most people were taking.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
Well, I'm smart, smart played by Dak in that instance.
Then if I'm Dak, I don't sign with the Cowboys
no matter what they offer.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Really, because that'sause of money.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
That's strictly money.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Oh now what about Okay, if I'm to shit more
money with just Dallas, I can't counter with another offer.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
If I'm an unrestricted free agent and Dallas wants to
keep me, Dallas is no longer in a position of
power if they really want to keep me, because somebody
else has offered me something I didn't realize he had
did only contract with the with the no franchise clause
tag clause, I can actually leave now.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
No, I agree with that. But what I'm asking you,
let's say, take out the money. Do you think he
should even not sign with them just because, man.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know, I'm not going to move on from this circus.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
To you, it's kind of like the gift and the
curse because you mentioned the playoff failures, and I mean
it's evident that.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
That's the issue.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Regarding Dak Prescott. If you look at his regular scenes
and numbers I think he's been in the league. This
is year nine. He's averaged about thirty seven hundred yards,
twenty five touchdowns, eight or nine picks. So he's been
a really good quarterback consistently in the regular season.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
He's failed in the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
But here's the silver line, and here's the part of
goal at the end of the rainbow. If you can
bring another championship to Dallas, you elevate your Q rate
and your level of celebrity. I mean, you're up there.
I mean with the Lebron James and such unprofessional sports.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
No, I agree, and there is an incredible benefit to
playing for the Dallas Cowboys. It's almost like, I mean,
they've been historically obviously a much better franchise than the Knicks.
But it's kind of like that same situation where if
you lead the Knicks to a championship, you're gonna count
for like at like two in another place, right, And
(10:09):
so I agree with that. With the Cowboys, I just
wonder though, Like I just think I personally feel some
people disagree with me that Jerry Jones has created a
culture there that makes it difficult to win at the
highest level. I just think I don't think football is
(10:30):
the primary I think I think I've always said this, Sean.
You know how Bull Durham was a movie. It wasn't
a baseball movie. It was a movie, a drama that
revolved around baseball. Absolutely loving basketball wasn't It was a
love story that revolved around basketball. I think the Cowboys
(10:50):
are like a drama, a soap opera that revolves around football.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Here's the only pushback I'll give you, and I get
what you're saying, But how is that a bad thing
for a player in a league where you perform with
a helmet on? And then I would ask which of
these Cowboy teams have underachieved?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Well, I think several of these in the playoffs have underachieved.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
As listened all of the blame falls.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
On last year.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
They clearly under achieved, but they weren't better then.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
They were better than Green Bay.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
They weren't playing.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Not that day.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
They look terrible, but they had won one sixteen fifteen
or sixteen straight games.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Have green Bay was incredibly young.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I just feel like the constant, like the circus atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I've heard reporters talk about actors.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Being at training camp and people walking through the building
when you're working out and coming in and taking pictures
or staying out and you know, through the glass taking pictures.
I just think that those are distractions. And when you're
talking about world class athletes, a distraction. Sean, you know this.
(12:03):
I mean, let's look at track and field. The difference
between winning gold and not even meddling in the hunts,
I mean will maybe be.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
A tenth of a second.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And that's the difference between these great athletes. The difference
between a solid, you know, quarterback and even a superstar.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's not that huge. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
You're all these guys, including you, when you play, all
of y'all are in like the ninety ninth percentile of
world athletes, and so the difference between winning and losing
is slight. So those constant distractions, I think that it's
just a bad culture, and I think it takes away
(12:48):
from the team just enough to keep them from winning.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
I think you make some good points, but Chris, at
the end of the day, I rather be somewhere where
they care too much to be somewhere where they don't
care at all.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I don't know that they care to I think they
care about winning or no, I'm sorry, I keep think
they care about making money.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
But just the oranization I'm talking about the fan base
value be high, but I'm talking about the fan base,
the city, the expectations like, well, you're not just leaving
Jerry Jones, you're also leaving the most passionate fan base
in all of professional football.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, I agree, and that is a national fan base, right.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
The cowm White fans are everywhere, I agree, no matter what.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
The Giants are passionate, the I mean, the Cowboy fans
are passionate, but the Cowboys are national.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
And the Cowboys are the most delusional fan base. Every
year they are confident they're winning him these years with
the Giants and Jets and some of these other passionate
fan bases, be like, I know what's going to be.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Terribistic, right, It's interesting, But now you have you have
been We were about to move on.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You have been active on x formerly known as Twitter.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Talk to them up an these contracts, man, we're gonna have
to get into that because you've been going hard in
some of these dudes that just got paid.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
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Speaker 1 (16:16):
Twitter taking shots, Rob.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
G explain, that is an understatement, my friend. But the
most egregious tweet of them all, oh shut out to
Seawn Ky. He shared a video of five young men
looks like they're part of a boy band dancing in
perfect sync. The caption reads Burrow Herbert loved to and
(16:41):
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billion dollars for winning no Rings, and Sean King retweeted
it hashtag facts.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Wow, what is up with that? Mister King?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
They shut out to Brad Gluckman.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
By the way, if you've never seen this movie, it's
really a gym. If you want to just laugh a
little bit, that's be Rad, the character from Malibu's Most Warned,
Chris come on Ye, and the dopest song, one of
the dopest songs, Cooling the Gang get down on It
is playing in the tweet. So Rob G, if you're
gonna take shots, you gotta know the background on the President.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
I know the background, But none of those guys at
Malabose wanted. They just dressed like there from Malibu's Most
Want in.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
So watch this.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
So here's why I've made the associate the yeah, the attachment.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
I touched them.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
I associated this same person's dressed five different ways with
this group. I mean you're telling me Joe Burrow, justin, Herbert,
Jordan Love, Ta and Hurts all have the same value
in today's National Football League play.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
So they new contracts absolutely.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
I mean Burrow got fifty five a year, Jordan Love
got fifty five a year, Tua got fifty three, Herbert
got fifty two, Hurts got fifty one. I just thought
it was a great fit. Meaning it don't really matter
what you look like or if you can really play
or not. In twenty twenty four in the National Football League,
you just got to be up for a contract in quarterback.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
So okay, so you're not necessarily ripping these guys, No,
not at all.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
Absolutely, What is your Okay, I'm envys and jealous that
I'm not still a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah no, I understand that for sure, brother.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But what is your like? So, what is your take
on this? It's not sustainable guys getting paid. It's not sustainable.
Like something's got to give at some point.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
And listen, I want everybody to get paid and make
their money, especially in football because it's such a potentially
short career because of the physical component of it.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
But I mean, come on, like.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Really like it's gotten to the point now like just
anybody at quarterback getting paid, and it's a big reason
I think the Cowboys have not paid that. I mean,
what's Dak's market If Trevor Lawrence just signed a deal
to become the highest paid quarterback in history and Jordan
Loves comes behind him. I mean, if you're the Cowboys
and Dak, like Dak's better than Trevor Lawrence and Jordan Love,
(19:11):
somebody are gonna get Dak sixty.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
No, I mean that's what people are thinking.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
I mean, so, I mean it's some some teams that
have some kind of fiscal responsibility looking at some of
these teams that don't and misten more power to tour too.
Is not the fourth best quarterback in the National Football League?
If not, in the hell is he making the fourth
most money?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Well, I mean that's not new.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Matthew Stafford was never the best quarterback in the league,
and he was highest paid.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Jimmy Garoppolo was never the best quarterback in the league.
He was the highest paid.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
So Stafford is one of my top three best quarterbacks
now are right?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Well, now that's too high for me.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
I'm not a Garoppolo card guy, per se.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I think they were highest paid quarterbacks in the league
at one point.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yeah, I mean, I'm happy to what these guys.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
I mean, every former quarterback is looking at these numbers
like Jimminy Christmas.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
You know, it is amazing when you say that, because
I just and I've thought about it in terms of
the NBA, and I look back to when Lebron James
and obviously he's gotten new money too, but you know
when he was getting I don't know what, five year
ninety million dollar contract or something like that, four years,
(20:30):
eighty million, whatever it might have been, and that was
huge money. And now Jason Tatum's got four what he
just signed a five year, fourteen million dollar cont like
the money man. Even and I'm not implying that it
wasn't humongous money when Lebron was young, you know, like
(20:53):
early in the league, but even it is making that
type of money look like nothing. And I know, Sean,
you feel like, my goodness, Hey.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Chris, let me put this in personal perspective for you.
In two thousand and one, which is only twenty three
years ago, So two decades ago. I'm coming off a
year where I was the starting quarterback in Tampa, helped
the team go ten and six, we made the playoffs.
I had a positive touchdown the interception ratio. Was about
to go into my third year in the league thinking that, okay, boom,
like this is the year we're gonna take off. I'm
(21:25):
established myself at this level as one of the dudes.
They brought in Brad Johnson on a five year, twenty
five million dollar deal. Five years, twenty five million. Think
about that.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Wow, and that was big money.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Matthew Stafford is fourteenth on the list of quarterbacks right now.
He's making forty million a year.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, that's crazy. Twenty five million.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Yes, and we won a super Bowl with Brad.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yep, yep, No, it's it's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
This is so answer. But I'm happy for these guys. Man.
Trust me, when when when.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Former quarterbacks talk about these contracts, it is in no
way malicious or or or we don't want them to
get that money. It's just so frustrating for us.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Well, gosh, you're trying to giggle and chuckle. But we
know it sounds like it's coming from a bad but
you're human. Bro Let's look.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Could could Could another NBA super team or even super duo.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
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Speaker 1 (22:53):
Sean.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
A lot of times, you know, great players in the
NBA get together in the summer for team and sometimes
they discuss, you know, hey man, it'd be cool if
we could all play together and win a championship. And
Brian Wenthorse plugged in with the NBA the Great Reporter,
was talking on his podcast about this and he said,
(23:16):
this is not a report, so this is not something
that is you know, we're reporting it or he's reporting
is in the works. But he said people are always
asking him, you know, what relationships are coming out of this,
and are any players whispering sweet nothings to one another
about teaming up? Together, and he just said that Anthony
(23:38):
Edwards is following Kevin Durant around like he's his little brother.
And Durant, of course, is Anthony Edwards's favorite player. He's
the guy Anthony Edwards grew up idolizing. And I'll be honest,
if that's how Anthony Edwards treats his idols, then.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Mike, don't make me one. I mean, he'd be.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Dunking on Duran and outstitting from the playoffs in unceremonious
fashion and sweeping him and all that talking trash. But Sean,
it is look financially possible. I mean, it's a simple
(24:24):
trade for the Phoenix Sons to trade Kevin Durant to
the Minnesota Timberwolves for Karl Anthony Towns. Now, they would
both have to add in one player to really make
it work financially, but they could easily do that.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And it makes sense for both teams.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I do think going into the season that the Phoenix
Sons feel like, let's see what we can do with
KD and Booker and Beale. And I think that the Timberwolves,
with such a great year last year, want to, you know,
run it back.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
But if neither team is looking as good.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Like if the Timberwolves aren't quite as dominant as maybe
they and we feel they should be, and the Sons
are just stagnant and looking like a fifth or sixth
seed in the West, then maybe at the trade deadline
would they consider making this deal.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And for Phoenix, it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Even though Kat's not as good as Durant, he's much younger.
He's twenty eight, Bookers twenty seven. They played together at
Kentucky in college one year. They are obviously, like I said,
both on the same timetable. And if you're not winning
with Durant, then go younger. But you're not rebuilding with
these two who are stars.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
And then for Minnesota, I'll say this, if they could
pull that off, to me, they're the favorite to win
the championship, right and.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Again it's like you speak truth, Chris, Like everything you
say is actual and it makes sense except for one
pertinent detail. Matt it's been just paid four billion dollars
for the Suns, and he's made it crystal clear he
didn't buy a team to trade Kevin Durant.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah, but if they're not winning, they're not gonna win it.
I don't think they you think they're gonna win the championship.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
No, but they don't. They definitely don't have a shot.
If they trade Durant for Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Well, but you can rebuild, you cannot not rebuild, reload,
I should say, on with a younger team because Durant's
age and I believe.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
They're gonna give him a shot this season.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
But my point is, if come February it's not worth
looking right, that's ain't and on. Obviously it's gonna work
to some degree, but I'm saying if they look like
a fifth or sixth seed, not on the level of
you know, the OKCS and the Timberwolves and the Denver Nuggets,
and it looks like another first round oustro is coming.
Maybe I get it that it is a bit of
(26:58):
a pipe drink, but I'm just saying it. It's not
like the bat the worst idea for the.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Suns, Yeah, it's not. I do think they'd asked for
more than cat Well, they got picked.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Yeah, they probably want and.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Could give them. Well, no, Minnesota doesn't that.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
I'd want Dillingham, you know, plus maybe one of the
young wings McDaniels or so, like, I want more than
just cat.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
It's tough because they have to Like Minnesota is a
second aprom team.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
So they got a best of contracts.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah, so it's it's and then you can't aggregate players
all the time, like it's it'll be a challenge if
indeed wherever they get.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Let me ask you, this.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
Is Durant's decision to leave Golden State Company, like the
most regrettable decision a superstar has ever made in professional sports.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
A terrible decision.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
You haven't been happy since well.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
He wasn't happy there either, it seems.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
But at least you had a chance to win and
lot and everywhere else.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, no, I look, I applauded him when he because
I felt like, you know, obviously a lot of people
have belittled or questioned his rings in Golden State, and
I applauded him, like he's about to go somewhere and
you know, try to win it with.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
His own team. And he had enough, he had enough talent.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
You know, with Kyrie, and when they especially when they
got James Harden and I'm a look, for the most part,
they didn't get a chance because of the injuries, Kyrie
being unvaccinated and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Going on.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
But the one year he did have a shot, when
Kyrie at least was healthy, he had two shots. You know,
they lost to Milwaukee. He played great in the second round,
but they got swept by Boston. He got out played
by Jason Tatum.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
So fast forward to now Chris did that decision doesn't
have an impact now on what you're saying, are guys
now more hesitant to leave somewhere they're having success if
it's not a money thing.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Ah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I don't know, because I can't think of any that
we've seen like that, you know what I mean? Where
I mean, it's very rare that a person leaves the
team after winning two championships in the last three years
with him, you know, So that was Durant is just
a wander he's a wanderlust or I don't know. But look,
bottom line is this, if he has stayed in Golden State,
(29:26):
least at least more at least one more, but I
think they may have gotten two more.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Let's say he's got three.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Let's say he's got three or four rings from Golden State,
and honestly it'd be more. Let's say he got four rings,
and I think that's been the foe. Yeah, it could
have been fired. But let's say he got four rings
from Golden State. Is now, if that were the case,
(29:53):
he would be being discussed as a top ten player
of all.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
And then I wouldn't have to argue with you, I
have being better than than joke it, Yo, He ain't.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
He ain't better than yo.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But if he stayed in one wouldn't have to right, Yeah,
I mean, but he that's the that's like Steph Durant
would be viewed historically is better than Steph right now,
I believe you think, yeah, he would have because he
was the best player on that team. Now it's Steph
(30:24):
being able to win it without Durant and win two
without Durant, you know, the one before he got there
and the one after. Steph is viewed higher than Durant,
ranked higher historically on most people's you know lists, than
Durant and Durant. I don't need it. If Durant hadn't
gone to Golden State, he might not have. I think
there's a great chance he don't have a ring period.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
It just depends on where they ended up.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
But I do think from a legacy standpoint, he's taking
some huge hits that he's not going to realize and
feel until he's done playing. Because when where he was
status wise after that second championship and go in state
to where he's at status Why he's not even talked
about in the best player in the world conversation?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well, you mean best player in the world right.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Now, right now or the last couple of years because
he's older.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
But even the last couple of years, he hadn't really
been in that conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But he should should he be? He shouldn't be.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
If he stayed in Golden State. Steph's been in the
conversation the last couple of years.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Steph isn't really in the conversation anymore. I mean, and
it's because of age.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Don't get why you don't like Steph?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Y'all about the same height, that got the same Melani
content like about the why is such a stuff hater?
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Man?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Jump on to Mike Roger because you you know how
ridiculous that is to call me a Steph hater.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
It's just a matter of perspective. It's a matter of perspective.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
It doesn't sound like, hold.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
On, Roger, Is there any way I can be declared
to Steph hater to Sean. Yeah, with the last some
fuzzy feelings anything, I mean, hold on. All I said
was this, Steph Curry has never been the best player
in the world. I don't think that's a controversial statement.
(32:08):
Iron Jays and I countered.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
When he's had more impact on the game of basketball.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
And I agree, Well, you didn't actually make it that definitive,
as you said.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
You can argue that. I agree.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You can argue that Steph has changed the game. If
he tries to argue against that is ridiculous. So I
don't see how they You know what's funny, four years
Steph has not been viewed even when they won it,
as the best player in the world.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
The p one listeners of The Odd Couple know Chris
Brussard as a Steph Curry fanboy because Rob is so
anti Steph Curry. On the flip side, now, Sean is
a very big Steph Curry fan and because Chris is
not as big of a fan because now you're hating
because Chris. It's just a matter of perspective, that's all.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Because Chris is object Sean.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Are you was there a term when Steph Curry was
the best player in the world.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I mean I could make an argument, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Argument unless you're gonna say that, Yes, I mean he's
one of you before, right, yep? So is Steve Nash
the best players?
Speaker 7 (33:16):
When when they win the championship with twenty two I
think was the year they won it.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yep, I mean what do he average that year? I
mean he's number twenty five. I'm just saying when you
take into account.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Twenty five, five and six, I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
He's not better than Lebron.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
He's twenty nine and twenty three and twenty six last year,
like he fell off. What happened to Steph is he
had a messaging problem because he's got another gown his
team that won't stay out of the headlines for the
wrong reasons and Draymond Green. So he encapsulates so much
of the content that's come out of Golden State. People
have kind of not talked about the fact that Steph.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Is still brilliant.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
He is.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Nobody's denying it. What I'm doing, you overstate things. I
was talking to somebody today who is a huge supporter
of de Air Fox, and he texts me, why are
you hating on the air and fight hold on?
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And I said, hating I said, I love Darren.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I just was was you know, I said, I was
just saying he is not in the.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Best player in the world discussion. That's what I said.
And this person who loves Daron was like, oh oh yeah,
that that's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
He just beyond listener you agree with me more and
more every day. I'm just saying.
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off the air. My man Sean King in for Rob Parker.
So Sean, we're watching the you know, the Hall of
Fame game the Texans up seventeen fourteen. Look, I mean
it's been fairly entertaining for a preseason game. I mean,
you know, it's been some decent football. You got case
Keenum out there looking okay, and he threw a touchdown
past the cam aker, so you know it's okay. But
(35:41):
I think one of the things that you know, one
of the new things is the new kickoff format.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
And at first it stunned me. I was like, what's
up with the kid? You know, I knew it, of course,
but just seeing it shocked me.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
But Rob g kind of talk about how this is
being talked a lot about on social media.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Stuf.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Oh, it's a big conversation on social media because it
is the debut of what they're calling the dynamic kickoff.
And I know, if you've the rules are kind of convoluted.
I want to get into it too much, but the
it was, but it was created with the hopes of
adding more action to the kickoff, let's you know, touch
back things of that sort. Well, so far there have
(36:20):
been five kickoffs in this game, be another one pinning
here after this extra point here. They're averaging twenty two
yards per return, so not exactly dynamic and of the
five returns is the best part. There have been two
illegal formation penalties already, so forty percent of the returns
have resulted in illegal formations.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Well, they gonna it's gonna take them a little while
to get.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Used to it.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
But I look, I hear you need.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
None of these kicks has been exciting, but the potential
looks like it is definitely there. You know, when you
look at the format, it does look like somebody could
break it and be gone.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
Sean, I haven't watched the night's game because I'm in
the studio here in Vegas, but I watched the XFL
and it didn't really do anything for me. That's where
they got this from. Right, they tested it in the
XFL and not an implement in the NFL year.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
It looks ridiculous, and you don't think it looks more
like No, I love a kickoff return, as I imagine
you do too. Right, this looks like you could see
more of them, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Devin Hester should open. His Hall of Fame speech was damn,
I'm glad I didn't play now because he didn't in
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
He wouldn't no more kickoff return I don't.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
I don't. I don't at all.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Once you break the first line, you gone.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Man.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Yeah, but again, haven't been on special teams coaching. Like
some of the special teams components before, it's a lot
more detailed than you think. And in sports schemes, the
doctor ABA thinks when it comes to how you block
and how you set up a wall and how you
trap this guy when they're running down, like because the
(38:00):
proximity is so close from the kick team and the
kick return, the blocking component is no.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Look, I love the old kickoff. I know what you're
saying about.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
You know all the schemes and things like that you
have on kickoffs. But my point is when you in
the old format, you as several levels to get through.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
That's not true in this one.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Maybe it's tougher to get through that first burst and
that first level, but once you do, and obviously you're
a kick return you got speed. Once you get through
that first level, man, you gone.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
I'll see. Maybe it'll grow on me. Maybe it won't.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I mean it may even if you see more returns,
you may not like it.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
I'm just saying, if.
Speaker 7 (38:52):
They don't want the kickoff, just get away with it.
Put the ball to twenty five.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Well, I like the kickoff because don't you think the
kick return is one the most exciting I agree players. Yeah,
in the league, so they basically took it away last year.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
Right, Thanks for having me. Good job of finishing second
to day to most of the show.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
I mean, it was a nice effort by you. But
you'll be back tomorrow to tex You do take a
looking and keep ticking.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I'll give you that, but you a new I expect
that
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