August 5, 2024 • 39 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Chris debate whether it’s reasonable for the players to vote Patrick Mahomes as the league’s 4th best player in the annual NFL Top 100, tell us if Tyreek Hill is the best non-quarterback in the NFL right now, discuss why Ice Cube seems hell-bent on getting his BIG3 All-Stars a matchup with the Netherland’s 3x3 gold medal basketball team and tell us if Canelo Alvarez and Terence Crawford should fight at a 154-pound catch weight.
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for tuning in to the odd couple. Martin, we talked
to you. Weren't on Friday, but myself and Sean King,
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former NFL quarterback, we were on the air when it
was announced, correct me if I'm wrong, Martin? When it
was announced though, I think, yeah, we were on the
air if I remember correctly, when it was announced that
Patrick Mahomes came in fourth place in the NFL one
hundred lists that was voted on.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
By the players.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Third place was Christian McCaffrey, the running back for the
San Francisco forty nine ers. Second place Lamar Jack, who
won the MVP for the Baltimore Ravens, obviously at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
In first place.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The wide receiver first wide receiver ever to be number
one since they started this poll in two thousand and eleven,
Tyreek Hill of the Miami Dolphins. The focus though, patrick
Mahomes being fourth.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
What are your thoughts on that, Martin? All Right, is.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Patrick Mahomes the fourth best player in football? No, he
is the first best player in football. We I think
most of us can come to agreement with that. Now,
him being ranked fourth after last year though, is not
some grave injustice that I feel like I must champion
hip from on high. Right, I understand, like you know
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your TV partner, he's got the every single slight thatever
is real.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Or imaginable to Patrick Mahomes he puts on a board.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I get that, I'm a lot of them coming for
a three time champion in six years. But go ahead,
but this to me is not one when you really
well with you when you do this voting. Right, Rob
g told me the voting for the top one hundred
occurred in the midst of Week fourteen. If you go
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back to where week fourteen in your brain, that is
the season in which Patrick Mahomes has thrown what the
most interceptions he had thrown? He hasn't like, I mean
here barely threw four over four hundred yards, second lowest
marking yards and second lowest marketing touchdowns that he had
in his career with twenty seven and a career high
fourteen interceptions.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Right, was that all on him?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
No, I won't blame all of that on him, but
that's still was the resume you were voting against.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
When you look at this.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
If you go back to the NBP odds in week fourteen,
Christian McCaffrey, Lamar Jackson, and Tyreek Hill were all in
the top six. Patrick Mahomes was nowhere to be found
at that moment in time, right, So when you look
at this, to me, it is more of a funk
of when the voting occurred as opposed to some big
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slight Because if they had done it after the Super Bowl,
for example, I think that everyone would have had Patrick
Mahomes listed as number one, and he may have been
the first unanimous overall number one pick.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I know how they do these lists.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
They poll guys, and they have the players that do
they fill their top twenty, right, and then they rank, Okay,
who got the most first place votes, who got the
most second place and so on to build out the list.
There's so many more egregious things on this lift than
Mahomes being not one instead of being four that those
things have me much more fired up. If he was
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eighth or ninth, I'd be fired about that too. But
when you look at the three guys in front of
him and the year they had at the time to
the voting, I can't fault. I really can't get too
worked up about it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, you said it as far as the timing, it
is understandable when you understand and I don't know that
it was week fourteen the article I read and GQ
said it somewhere between Thanksgiving and New Year's But if
you look at the month of December, the Chansait Chiefs
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were two and three. Patrick Mahomes had I believe, six
touchdowns and five interceptions, and we all know he wasn't
having He didn't have his best year for the whole year,
had his worst year of his career. That wasn't a
terrible year, but by his standards, it was subparte.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
It was his worse of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And you are right if you go going into December,
tyreek Hill had seven one hundred plus yard receiving games.
He was averaging one hundred and twenty receiving yards per
game at that point, I think was still on track
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or close to it, of breaking the all time receiving
record and maybe getting two thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Receiving, which has never been done.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
In the month of December, tyreek Hill had December and
on so December and January, Tyrek Hill had one one
hundred or more yard receiving game period. The rest of
the year so I agree with you and Lamar and
McCaffrey at that point in December, if you will, were
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looking like the front runners for MVP. So it is understandable.
But here's where I want to take this, Martin. Even
as we all watched and even as Patrick Mahomes was
not having a great year by his standards, and we
know a lot of that had to do with, you know,
guys dropping footballs, and I mean he had the most drops.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
In the league from his receivers.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And Kelsey looked old until the playoffs start, So Kelsey
wasn't having a great year either. But even as that
was going on, Martin, and even as several quarterbacks were
playing better than Mahomes, I still bill viewed him as
the best player in the world, as the best quarterback
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and best football.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Player, best player in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And so what I want to ask you, So, if
I were voting at that time, I still would have.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Had Patrick Mahons number one.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
He's still at that point had two Super Bowls championships,
he still had two MVPs. He had done enough where
I think most people, not all, but most people, like
now virtually everybody recognizes him as the best quarterback in
the world at that time, I would say seventy five
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percent of pundits maybe that we see on TV would
have had Mahomes number one.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And maybe maybe I'm underestimating it, but.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Question you think at that point the some people thought
Josh or Burrow not a lot, but we gots you
think Joe was hurt by that point, I think Josh
Allen would have been the only person who you would
have found credible sources TV talking heads throwing in that conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Honestly, Okay, So the question I want to ask you
is does the best player, like if he's clearly the best,
whether it was a Michael Jordan, Lebron James, now it's
you know, Patrick Mahomes. Do they have to be having
the best individual season for you to recognize them as
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the best, Like most of these guys, I think, honestly,
two to five and maybe two to six is up
in the air right now.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It could be Lamar, it could be Burrow. I'm talking
about quarterbacks, it could be Josh Allen and maybe I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Sure yet but we'll see. Maybe it could be CJ.
Strout right, but that's gonna flux. You wait year to year.
To me, number one, ain't fluctuating for the next I
might be being generous and saying five years or let's
say three.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Years, really generous, I'd locked in three for sure. Let's
say three for sure. And so that's what I want
to ask you.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Like, like, Lebron didn't have to win the championship every year.
You know that he was the best player for us
to recognize he's still the best player in the world.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
But Chris during that time period when Lebron James was
basically hosting the Eastern Conference Invitational, right when he was
the best player in the NBA, and there was all
these teams going and bumping their heads against whether it
be Cleveland or Miami, as he was going to represent
one half of the NBA in the finals for damn
near a decade.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
He didn't win the MVP every year. He didn't, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
So, like, no, like we can still agree that off
the entire track record of your career, where you rank
of all time, You know, I'm saying where you rank
up the whole league maybe different than where you ranking
individual seasons.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Right, we've established this is already true.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Tom Brady was the best quarterback for at minimal, at minimum,
tom Brady was the best quarterback for ten of his
twenty three years and the and you know he was
only first team All Pro three times.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Exactly my point, exactly my point.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
We're now after it was all said and done, did
we sit back and be like, oh man, how did
this guy win first Team All Pro?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
When Tom Brady? Is this that the third?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
No, like after a while, these roties awards they changed,
they move around, but this is specifically based off a
year to year basis.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, but that see the point you're making I agree
with and that's why I still think, even at that time,
while it's somewhat understandable, I think they should have still
had Mahomes number one, and I think it is rather
egregious that he's not because Aaron Rodgers didn't play a snap.
Well what no play four snaps and was ninety two.
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Joe Burrow missed seven games and in half of the
ten he played he didn't play well.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And I'm being generous there.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It might have been six or seven of the ten
he played didn't play well.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
He still was thirty ninth.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
But at least what Burrow you can say he walked
into Levi Stadium and beat the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
To me, Aaron Rodgers is egregious.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Well, but what that tells me, Martin is that it's
not just I think that's most of it, what you're
doing this season, But it's not just what you're doing
this season.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, that's why to me, Yeah, of course, I mean
Rock Party probably had a better Sison individual season than Mahomes, right, statistically,
certainly did regular season right, but I still never thought
Rock Perdy was better than Patrick Mahons or really in
his class. You see what I'm saying. So I still
don't think that's an excuse. I get it. It is
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somewhat understandable, but I still think even at that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Time Mahomes should have been number one. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
No, but again having them in the top five is
still real. You know, I can't get Aaron Rodgers being
ninety two after playing ninety two.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Were talking about on Holmes you gonna have a hissy
fit over ninety two.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
No, but it just shows Stute.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It shows me something that you know, the guy and
Filiggan for Rob Parker has said for the longest time,
and I'm sure You've said it in various ways as well.
Current players are oftentimes not the best evaluators of what's
going on in the league.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
They're more focused on what they have going on.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
They're more focused on beating their opponent on Monday or
Thursday or Sunday or whatever. That's what they're focused on,
not necessarily a holistic view of the league entirely.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, I'm gonna be honest, Martin, and I bet you
agree with me. Look, if all and I think they
get like a thousand players at this point, I'm not
sure if they only do a the top twenty. Are
you sure one hundred players getting named? Maybe, because obviously
there's so many different positions, right, and players at different
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positions may be naming, you know, more guys that they
face at their position. But you know what I'm saying, Like,
I I think it's very possible that one hundred guys
don't get named, that maybe only seventy four got named,
or fewer than that.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I think it's it's definitely reasonable to think. But I
know this. I saw.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I was lucky enough to see a submission to this
list right when one of the players got a connection.
I saw what he put in there and he had
like Justin Mattobuke at seven, the defensive tackle for the Ravens.
He had Brock Party, I think at three at the time.
What this is, Hey, this is a guy that Brock Party. Yes,
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who's ballot you saw? Yes, he had Brock Purty is No,
it was Brock's ballot.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. It wasn't bat.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I like Brock, y'all know, I'm a Brock fan, but
it wasn't Brocksvaalle. It was a guy who plays in
the AFC, right now, So I'll just but that was
what I saw at this and I was like, oh, well,
these results are ridiculous. Like okay, Fred Warner at eight,
I like it, but like you know, we're really saying that, Yeah,
they're all over the place when they're viewing this type
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of stuff. So you know, you know, if you looked
at his position that he played, and then the top
ten list that he compiled, it had an outside number
of players at his position, right, So it's like, all right, well,
maybe some of you guys are taking this the most seriously.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Maybe some, but I.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Mean I understand why people would say, how could you
not vote Mahomes number one, but after the year he
had last year, I just can't get too worked up
about it. But to me voting Aaron Rodgers the top
one hundred player last year after four plays.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, I mean he clearly wasn't last year, and to
be honest, you could argue he wasn't even his last
year in Green Bay. But I do still think I'm
betting going into this season that he's one of the
best one hundred players in the league.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So we will see, all right, we mentioned it. Number
one was Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We'll discuss is he the best non quarterback in football?
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It was? It was good, it was.
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I thought they were all good. I'm here with Chris
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All right, tyreek Hill number one in the players one
hundred top one hundred players in the league.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
What are your thoughts about that? And we get that
when it was picked.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Let's not go over the whole, not anything again, but
what are your thoughts about him? Is he the best
non quarterback let's take quarterbacks out.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
No, I don't think so. I think he's on a
short list of people who could be considered. But I
think the best non quarterback in the NFL right now
is Justin Jefferson, who obviously was nicked up for a
lot of last year, but you look at him. When
he was on the field, the production was undeniable and
that didn't matter who was thrown in the ball right,
and Vikings ran through all types. I think they started
four different quarterbacks last year Justin Jefferson despite missing what
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seven games I believe with a hamstring and then missing
part of another one going to the hospital as we
saw on the Netflix show. But yeah, to me, it's
Justin Jefferson just because of his ability to turn something.
I mean, Tyreek Hill is probably the hardest to game
plan for just because of his breakneck speed, right, But
I think Justin Jefferson is impossible to defend even two
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on one. Right, you could make a game plan for
him while you want. He's just gonna jump up and
catch the ball, and he just finds and finds ways
to get open, finds ways to react to all types
of poorly thrown balls. And I'm not saying that Tyreek
Hill doesn't also have that skill. I think Justin Jefferson
just has more of it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, I agree with you on there are a handful
of players you could consider as the best non quarterback
Miles Garrett sure TJ. Jatt Nick brought up Travis Kelsey
if you're talking about playoffs, which is fair. I mean,
Kelsey is a monster in the playoffs, has been, and
you know, again he didn't play well by his standards
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last season, but when the playoffs came around, he was
awesome as usual, so Christian McCaffrey even, But I got
no problem with Tyreek being number one, and I would
take him over if.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I could choose, I would.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Take him over Justin Jefferson because I think his speed
just changes the game absolutely. And you're right, Jefferson has
really not had great quarterbacks. His best one obviously Kirk Cousins,
but Tyreek did damage with Alex Smith, obviously doing damage
with Tua. We'll see eventually over time how good Tua
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really is, but outside of Patrick, he hasn't had a
great one. He's had good ones, and he still is
a monster. In fact, his numbers are even greater with Tua.
But because he is not only a deep threat, but
can is a threat to take every pass, a slant,
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the quick release passes to the house. And he's strong,
so press coverage can't stop. And if he beats your
press what you will now you're you're in trouble. You
give him too much space, you're in trouble. Like he's
the whole back. He does drop.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
More passes than to Justin Jefferson. That's kind of where
that's my thing. That's the only negative you can say about.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Him, right, And it's not like he can't. You know,
he's terrible with the drops, but he will. It's almost
like sometimes I wonder like sometimes with his drops it
seems almost like a lack of concentration well or something,
you know, or he's thinking like, okay, I'm about to
break this, so I'm about to run and then he
just drops it.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Well, if you pay attention to the way he fundamentally catches
the ball, he's a body catcher. And you know, I've
seen people who have caught way more touchdowns than me
talk about how if you want to be truly elite
at catching the ball, you have to go and get
it with your hands.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
So like the catch, for example, that Justin Jefferson made
against the Bills, right, he went up in one hand
and got that thing and brought.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It back down, right.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
We don't see Tyreek Hill making those types of catching
right if it's in now. A lot of times he's
so damn open that it doesn't quite matter.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Well when he and you're right, he does tend to
be a body catcher. And you remember when he was
in Kansas City, a lot of remember mahomes, there were
a lot of times he underthrew Tyreek, but he was
so open. Tyreek would like wait on the ball or
come back three yards right, and and.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
But he was so wide open that it worked out.
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I mean, I think Jefferson has better hands, without question,
and some other dudes have better hands, but his speed
man makes it. It just changes the entire game. And
I think his hands are good enough, you know what
I mean. And his catch percentage is up there. You know,
it's not like a bad catch percentage. In fact, I
think it's catch percentage, and that's not just that's not drops,
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but you know that's balls thrown to you, how many
of them you catch, So that can that the defense
has a part than that two. But I believe it's
catch percentage or catch raid is even higher than Justin's.
So it's not like a huge problem. But I think
its speed makes up for it, all right, the Big three, bro. Look,
we're hoping and believing with good reason, Martin, that we're
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going to bring home the gold medal team USA Basketball.
But five on five basketball, three on three, we're a joke.
We're we won two out of seven games this year,
Jimmer for that, God bless them we need a new
number one, okay, and number two and number three, and
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ice Cube has some ideas about that.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
We'll get to that next.
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We're gonna bring in Rob G.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So, as I said, our Team USA three on three
team did not meddle in men's basket.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
The women got bronze, I believe, right.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, and the Netherlands is the champion. And ice Cube
is as bothered as we are, the president of the
Big Three, owner, founder of the Big Three, legendary hip
hop artist, filmmaker, and actor, and he had an idea.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Rob g shared with us what ice Cube's talking about.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Well, he floated this idea out about four or five
days ago, once it became clear that the Team USA
team was just not cutting it. He said, we will
like to challenge whoever ends up bringing on the gold medal.
That's how confident we are in the squad we got here. Well,
now that it's official, with the Netherlands becoming your FEBA
three on three Olympic gold medalists, ice Cube and the
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Big Three have officially issued the challenge in writing the
three All Three game with the Big Three All Stars
in Boston in August eighteenth against the Netherlands. All travel
expenses will be paid for. Winner takes home one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Look, you gotta love ice Q.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I mean, the dude is proven to be a terrific
businessman and this is business right, This is business for him.
Remember he offered Caitlin Clark the five million dollars to
play in the Big Three.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
That was business. Obviously she didn't do it smart on
her part.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I mean, that's a lot of money, but she wouldn't
have played well.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
But this is would be great for his league.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
If they beat the Olympic champion Martin, that's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
And I don't know who the Netherlands has.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I mean, I'm trying to think who's the NBA player
ever from the Netherlands is I'm probably there's.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Probably one or two, but anybody know one off the
top of her head?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
No, I don't, rob G is there one? I mean,
I don't know who that would be. I don't even
know who the All Stars would be for the Big Three.
I haven't been following it as closely, but he's talking
about an All Star team. So basically the best four
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or five players in the Big Three, maybe minus a
couple because you know, you said it's.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Right before the Championship game, right, rob g.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
So the way that they play their All Star game
and they have their All Star Game as the you know,
preview the undercard to the Championship game later that day.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Right, So whatever All Stars or All Star caliber guys
are playing in the Championship I would imagine aren't eligible.
So it might be five of the best eight players
in the Big Three. And again I haven't followed it
that closely this year, but Martin, give me the Big Three.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I mean, this is what I'm I'm over here thinking,
all right, ice Cube. The last two times I've heard
about this Big Three is when you challenge Caitlyn Clark.
And now with this challenge, it kind of is giving
me the vibes of when Scott Frost was at UCF
saying we want Alabama like it really does.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
It's like nobody nobody is checking for you at this time.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
With nobody is checking for them, He's trying to get
you to start checking for you know, one thing that
might have helped maybe if he built the American squad
or you know, submitted his players to the American squad,
then we would be looking at Oh, these guys play
professionally in the Big Three, right, that's what I mean,
because you can't send NBA players because of the travel,
you know, the different restrictions.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Right three on three you have to play in a
World Cup.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Oh yeah, they need to get rid of that. I
think those those rules for eligibility.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Well they need to get rid of that. If the
United States was to keep winning or no start winning,
well I say we'll continue to win.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I say keep winning, like continue the five on five
winning that they would have into three on three because
you can't tell me like a team of Damian Lillard
oh uh.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know you name two others, Yeah, would have demolished
this thing, right of course.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
So what I would like to see is I would
like to see ice Cubes not necessarily play against the
gold medal winners, but the beat out the American team.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Have your you don't think they'd have a shot against
the Netherlands.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Not really, I mean do I think that?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Like I mean, Corey Brewer is the favorite for MVP
in the Big Three right now is out is Corey
We were in college at the same time, so close
to thirty five thirty six.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Oh, I'd be surprised if he's only that Corey Brewer.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I'm looking it up thirty eight thirty eight right so right?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So, I mean, and Corey wasn't even a big score
in the NBA exactly. So the fact that he's ruling, uh,
the MVP of this league, like, I think that this
is all a whole lot of ice cube making noise,
trying to get still. Look, I get it. No, it's
definitely that, don't get me wrong. But I also think
(28:17):
you thinks his players could could win the top scores
in total points.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Isaiah Briscoe remember him?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
He was you know, high school All American, played in Kentucky,
didn't do much in the NBA, was only there briefly.
Kevin Murphy, whoever that is, Michael Beasley. We all know
Michael Beasley and how great he was. Corey Brewer's fourth
and Jeremy Pargo. I mean, I don't know, it's interesting.
(28:52):
I hope this happens, and I don't. I can't say
for sure that the NBA or the I'm sorry, the
Big Three would win because as you said, I mean,
these guys are older, but they still are NBA caliber guys.
Were NBA Calidar weren't right, were NBA caliber guys, but
a certain basketball IQ even though a guy like Beasley
(29:17):
wasn't viewed as you know, he wasn't a smart smartest,
he wasn't a smart player, let's put.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
It that way.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
But still that's compared to NBA guys. I it would
be interesting. I hope it happened, and if they get blasted,
shout out to the Netherlands, and then maybe that'll force
America to step it up and have a better Big
three team or or you know, three three on three team.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
But I like to see this smart so would you bother?
Would you like to see it? I'd watch it. I'd
watch it for sure. But I also think that the
Netherlands would beat them handily if their a team that's
already played together, a team like that. They have all like,
it's more true than three on three basketball. There's a
on five basketball.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
But what's the what's the age old trope that we
hear about these international teams, especially over the last fifteen years, chemistry.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
They've been playing together forever.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Like these guys have legitimately been playing to get like
too qualified for three on three in the Olympics. You
gotta play the summers prior, you know. So that's the
way that they've doing it over there. The Netherlands team
would have much more chemistry, you think than a Big
three team that was kind of you know, slapped.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
The needs to practice a little bit, for sure. I
don't know, though, it would be interesting to me to
see this happen. I hope it does, and I agree
it's I said it from the top. It is a
business move from ice Q to get more eyeballs on
his league.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I think that's smart. This will certainly do it, man.
I hope.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Look, there's no if let's let's put the shoe on
the other foot. If you're the Netherlands, are you interested
in this mark? It's only I think he needs offer
more than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. That's like nothing.
But I guess what, I know a lot some of
the guys in the league make that, so I guess
that's why he's like, he can't go too high. But
(31:09):
I don't think that's a large amount of money for
these guys to do this.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I think if you're up to to maybe three hundred k,
so that means everybody you know are four because these
teams are four players, one guy who come up to man, right,
everybody get a hundred thousand each, all expenses paid. I
mean I would look around at my gold medal compatriots
and say, well, you know, we go do it again
for a nice little bonus check. Why not did you
(31:34):
watch any of the three on three?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I watched, No, I did not.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, I watched a little bit of the women's Yeah,
but I didn't see any of the men.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
So I don't know what the strategies are. I would
they play ones and twos instead of twos and threes.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I was reading Jimmer for Debt saying that one of
the differences, there's no help sides.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
You have to defend more. Uh you know, but well
I know that killed Jimmer. There's more, right, I see.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
That's where and that's where I think maybe the big
three guys might have a little bit of an advantage, right,
I mean, you know they can go, you know, beat
Michael Beasley can go one on one, and I get it,
he's older.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Not what he used to be.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
But you know you got to be in some shape
to play three on three for as long as they play,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I will tell you I would have been locked in
if you told me that Corey Brewer and Michael Beasley
were two of the four because I got it now.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I gotta see that and Beasley can. I mean, Brewer
was a defender. That was his bread and butter. Hopefully
they do it. I would love to see it.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
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big dud compare according to some and so does that
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Martin with a victory on Saturday night. Rob g you
saw the fight. I did not see it. I looked
(34:16):
at the highlights. I read the stories and comments from
some of the you know, the top commentators out there.
Israel mad Madrimov I hope. I said that Modromoff is
who he beat.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
But Crawford was not impressive. It was a close fight, right.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It was the first time in what like a decade
or so that he's gone the distance it's been.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
It was his first time not having a fight and
in a knockout in since twenty sixteen. Yeah, it's eight
years and Madre Moov had only fought eleven professional fights
before this one. Now he must I saw that he
just having at ry had three replus amateur fights. Because
nobody was looking at the fact that he had only
(35:06):
had eleven fights.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I thought it was even what was he ten oh
and one? He was the champion coming in, so that
sounds how he is, so nobody was looking at it.
Remember low Minchenko is like that too, exactly. He had
had a lot of fights.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
So with Crawford, the last time we saw him was
a year ago at the Spence five when he put
on one of the all time great boxing performances. People
were expecting something similar on Saturday. I just didn't get it,
and as a result, it kind of he went up
to up to one fifty four his first time in
that weight division, and that he's a champion in that division,
but because he wasn't as impressive as people hoped he
(35:38):
would be, it kind of threw a monkey wrench into
this perspective. Super fight between him and Canelo Alfridge, which
he's been talking about now for months, and Canelo has
said all along that he has no interest in fighting Crawford.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
He's too small.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
He has nothing to really gain by going down that
low of a weight class. And while today speaking on
a Sways Shade for forty five radio show, Connello now
says if the money is right, he will fight Crawford,
but he did add it's gonna be easy money at
one sixty eight, implying he still has no intention of
(36:13):
going down one fifty four or even at a catchweight
for that.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
But that look, if I'm Crawford and I you know,
only Crawford knows. Now, he said, Modrumov was very strong,
and that appeared to be the case in the fight.
If I'm Crawford, he knows how strong, right, he knows
how that strength affected him.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I'm certainly not going but above one fifty four for.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Canelo, and he might depend on again how strong he
felt Midramov was. He may just not want a fighting, uh,
even if Connelo would come down to that. But to me, Crawford,
it has to happen at.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
One fifty four. Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
And Rob g to bring people behind the curtain. You
and I were talking before the show about this, and
you said you thought Canelo shouldn't fight him just.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Because the money. You know, he has nothing for it.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I actually think he does, like Crawford would. Who's who's
Canelo's biggest.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
Victory over Glovekin twice? Yeah, that's a pretty bids big
time right, A lot of guys, right, But if.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
He I think his crowning achievement, it'd have to have
that one four would be beating Cross And I'm not
I'm not guaranteeing he would, but I think that that's.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
What he has the game from it legacy. Now if he.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Doesn't, if that weight would really mess him up, then
he shouldn't do it. But I think, look, he'll get
a lot of money. I think it would be as big.
I think it would be as big as Crawford Spence.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
Well, therein lies the problem, Chris, because Terrence Crawford, as
good as he is, his only his best pay per
view by was against Spence seven hundred thouves. And Canelo
does that no matter who he fights, He gets seven
under ground. Before that, Crawford was getting one thirty five,
one fifty fifty thousand, buyers. So if your Canelo, is
it worth it for you to fight a guy who's
(38:12):
at least twenty pounds lighter than you. So if he wins,
just say, hey, you find a guy who's that small,
people are.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Gonna give him props.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
The bottom line is, if you're fighting, and you're fighting
at the same you know, by the time they got
in the ring, it wouldn't be the same weight, but
you know at the way end it'd be roughly the
same way.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Yeah, but you know how it is, it works, Chris.
I mean, they are classes for a reason. Nobody wants
to see a heavyweight take on a middleweight.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
But Cannelo fought Floyd, and I know it was years ago,
but I'm just saying, nobody's gonna if he beat ters
Crawford at one fifty four, nobody's gonna be like he
beat a chump, he'd beat a lightweight. That would be arguably,
I think that would be as great as Gilofkin was.
I think that be the biggest win on his resume.
So I think that's the reason you do it. See,
(38:56):
I'm from the era where cats fought you. From this
era of they fought weak and zero, we climb them.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
In sugar Right. Leonard Fall a light heavyweight. He went
up from Walter Webb like heavy.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
He didn't fight a guy who was coming down from
heavyweight to fight.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
My point is, dude, like it happened. I mean, people
have moved around. We need more time on this Rob's
Chicken Rob g
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former NFL quarterback, we were on the air when it
was announced, correct me if I'm wrong, Martin? When it
was announced though, I think, yeah, we were on the
air if I remember correctly, when it was announced that
Patrick Mahomes came in fourth place in the NFL one
hundred lists that was voted on.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
By the players.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Third place was Christian McCaffrey, the running back for the
San Francisco forty nine ers. Second place Lamar Jack, who
won the MVP for the Baltimore Ravens, obviously at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
In first place.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The wide receiver first wide receiver ever to be number
one since they started this poll in two thousand and eleven,
Tyreek Hill of the Miami Dolphins. The focus though, patrick
Mahomes being fourth.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
What are your thoughts on that, Martin? All Right, is.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Patrick Mahomes the fourth best player in football? No, he
is the first best player in football. We I think
most of us can come to agreement with that. Now,
him being ranked fourth after last year though, is not
some grave injustice that I feel like I must champion
hip from on high. Right, I understand, like you know
(02:46):
your TV partner, he's got the every single slight thatever
is real.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Or imaginable to Patrick Mahomes he puts on a board.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I get that, I'm a lot of them coming for
a three time champion in six years. But go ahead,
but this to me is not one when you really
well with you when you do this voting. Right, Rob
g told me the voting for the top one hundred
occurred in the midst of Week fourteen. If you go
(03:13):
back to where week fourteen in your brain, that is
the season in which Patrick Mahomes has thrown what the
most interceptions he had thrown? He hasn't like, I mean
here barely threw four over four hundred yards, second lowest
marking yards and second lowest marketing touchdowns that he had
in his career with twenty seven and a career high
fourteen interceptions.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Right, was that all on him?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
No, I won't blame all of that on him, but
that's still was the resume you were voting against.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
When you look at this.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
If you go back to the NBP odds in week fourteen,
Christian McCaffrey, Lamar Jackson, and Tyreek Hill were all in
the top six. Patrick Mahomes was nowhere to be found
at that moment in time, right, So when you look
at this, to me, it is more of a funk
of when the voting occurred as opposed to some big
(04:03):
slight Because if they had done it after the Super Bowl,
for example, I think that everyone would have had Patrick
Mahomes listed as number one, and he may have been
the first unanimous overall number one pick.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I know how they do these lists.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
They poll guys, and they have the players that do
they fill their top twenty, right, and then they rank, Okay,
who got the most first place votes, who got the
most second place and so on to build out the list.
There's so many more egregious things on this lift than
Mahomes being not one instead of being four that those
things have me much more fired up. If he was
(04:37):
eighth or ninth, I'd be fired about that too. But
when you look at the three guys in front of
him and the year they had at the time to
the voting, I can't fault. I really can't get too
worked up about it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, you said it as far as the timing, it
is understandable when you understand and I don't know that
it was week fourteen the article I read and GQ
said it somewhere between Thanksgiving and New Year's But if
you look at the month of December, the Chansait Chiefs
(05:09):
were two and three. Patrick Mahomes had I believe, six
touchdowns and five interceptions, and we all know he wasn't
having He didn't have his best year for the whole year,
had his worst year of his career. That wasn't a
terrible year, but by his standards, it was subparte.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
It was his worse of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And you are right if you go going into December,
tyreek Hill had seven one hundred plus yard receiving games.
He was averaging one hundred and twenty receiving yards per
game at that point, I think was still on track
(05:50):
or close to it, of breaking the all time receiving
record and maybe getting two thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Receiving, which has never been done.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
In the month of December, tyreek Hill had December and
on so December and January, Tyrek Hill had one one
hundred or more yard receiving game period. The rest of
the year so I agree with you and Lamar and
McCaffrey at that point in December, if you will, were
(06:20):
looking like the front runners for MVP. So it is understandable.
But here's where I want to take this, Martin. Even
as we all watched and even as Patrick Mahomes was
not having a great year by his standards, and we
know a lot of that had to do with, you know,
guys dropping footballs, and I mean he had the most drops.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
In the league from his receivers.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And Kelsey looked old until the playoffs start, So Kelsey
wasn't having a great year either. But even as that
was going on, Martin, and even as several quarterbacks were
playing better than Mahomes, I still bill viewed him as
the best player in the world, as the best quarterback
(07:06):
and best football.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Player, best player in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And so what I want to ask you, So, if
I were voting at that time, I still would have.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Had Patrick Mahons number one.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
He's still at that point had two Super Bowls championships,
he still had two MVPs. He had done enough where
I think most people, not all, but most people, like
now virtually everybody recognizes him as the best quarterback in
the world at that time, I would say seventy five
(07:47):
percent of pundits maybe that we see on TV would
have had Mahomes number one.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And maybe maybe I'm underestimating it, but.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Question you think at that point the some people thought
Josh or Burrow not a lot, but we gots you
think Joe was hurt by that point, I think Josh
Allen would have been the only person who you would
have found credible sources TV talking heads throwing in that conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Honestly, Okay, So the question I want to ask you
is does the best player, like if he's clearly the best,
whether it was a Michael Jordan, Lebron James, now it's
you know, Patrick Mahomes. Do they have to be having
the best individual season for you to recognize them as
(08:37):
the best, Like most of these guys, I think, honestly,
two to five and maybe two to six is up
in the air right now.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It could be Lamar, it could be Burrow. I'm talking
about quarterbacks, it could be Josh Allen and maybe I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Sure yet but we'll see. Maybe it could be CJ.
Strout right, but that's gonna flux. You wait year to year.
To me, number one, ain't fluctuating for the next I
might be being generous and saying five years or let's
say three.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Years, really generous, I'd locked in three for sure. Let's
say three for sure. And so that's what I want
to ask you.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Like, like, Lebron didn't have to win the championship every year.
You know that he was the best player for us
to recognize he's still the best player in the world.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
But Chris during that time period when Lebron James was
basically hosting the Eastern Conference Invitational, right when he was
the best player in the NBA, and there was all
these teams going and bumping their heads against whether it
be Cleveland or Miami, as he was going to represent
one half of the NBA in the finals for damn
near a decade.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
He didn't win the MVP every year. He didn't, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
So, like, no, like we can still agree that off
the entire track record of your career, where you rank
of all time, You know, I'm saying where you rank
up the whole league maybe different than where you ranking
individual seasons.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Right, we've established this is already true.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Tom Brady was the best quarterback for at minimal, at minimum,
tom Brady was the best quarterback for ten of his
twenty three years and the and you know he was
only first team All Pro three times.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Exactly my point, exactly my point.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
We're now after it was all said and done, did
we sit back and be like, oh man, how did
this guy win first Team All Pro?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
When Tom Brady? Is this that the third?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
No, like after a while, these roties awards they changed,
they move around, but this is specifically based off a
year to year basis.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, but that see the point you're making I agree
with and that's why I still think, even at that time,
while it's somewhat understandable, I think they should have still
had Mahomes number one, and I think it is rather
egregious that he's not because Aaron Rodgers didn't play a snap.
Well what no play four snaps and was ninety two.
(11:02):
Joe Burrow missed seven games and in half of the
ten he played he didn't play well.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And I'm being generous there.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It might have been six or seven of the ten
he played didn't play well.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
He still was thirty ninth.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
But at least what Burrow you can say he walked
into Levi Stadium and beat the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
To me, Aaron Rodgers is egregious.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Well, but what that tells me, Martin is that it's
not just I think that's most of it, what you're
doing this season, But it's not just what you're doing
this season.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, that's why to me, Yeah, of course, I mean
Rock Party probably had a better Sison individual season than Mahomes, right, statistically,
certainly did regular season right, but I still never thought
Rock Perdy was better than Patrick Mahons or really in
his class. You see what I'm saying. So I still
don't think that's an excuse. I get it. It is
(12:00):
somewhat understandable, but I still think even at that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Time Mahomes should have been number one. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
No, but again having them in the top five is
still real. You know, I can't get Aaron Rodgers being
ninety two after playing ninety two.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Were talking about on Holmes you gonna have a hissy
fit over ninety two.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
No, but it just shows Stute.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It shows me something that you know, the guy and
Filiggan for Rob Parker has said for the longest time,
and I'm sure You've said it in various ways as well.
Current players are oftentimes not the best evaluators of what's
going on in the league.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
They're more focused on what they have going on.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
They're more focused on beating their opponent on Monday or
Thursday or Sunday or whatever. That's what they're focused on,
not necessarily a holistic view of the league entirely.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, I'm gonna be honest, Martin, and I bet you
agree with me. Look, if all and I think they
get like a thousand players at this point, I'm not
sure if they only do a the top twenty. Are
you sure one hundred players getting named? Maybe, because obviously
there's so many different positions, right, and players at different
(13:10):
positions may be naming, you know, more guys that they
face at their position. But you know what I'm saying, Like,
I I think it's very possible that one hundred guys
don't get named, that maybe only seventy four got named,
or fewer than that.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I think it's it's definitely reasonable to think. But I
know this. I saw.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I was lucky enough to see a submission to this
list right when one of the players got a connection.
I saw what he put in there and he had
like Justin Mattobuke at seven, the defensive tackle for the Ravens.
He had Brock Party, I think at three at the time.
What this is, Hey, this is a guy that Brock Party. Yes,
(13:50):
who's ballot you saw? Yes, he had Brock Purty is No,
it was Brock's ballot.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. It wasn't bat.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I like Brock, y'all know, I'm a Brock fan, but
it wasn't Brocksvaalle. It was a guy who plays in
the AFC, right now, So I'll just but that was
what I saw at this and I was like, oh, well,
these results are ridiculous. Like okay, Fred Warner at eight,
I like it, but like you know, we're really saying that, Yeah,
they're all over the place when they're viewing this type
(14:19):
of stuff. So you know, you know, if you looked
at his position that he played, and then the top
ten list that he compiled, it had an outside number
of players at his position, right, So it's like, all right, well,
maybe some of you guys are taking this the most seriously.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Maybe some, but I.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Mean I understand why people would say, how could you
not vote Mahomes number one, but after the year he
had last year, I just can't get too worked up
about it. But to me voting Aaron Rodgers the top
one hundred player last year after four plays.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, I mean he clearly wasn't last year, and to
be honest, you could argue he wasn't even his last
year in Green Bay. But I do still think I'm
betting going into this season that he's one of the
best one hundred players in the league.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So we will see, all right, we mentioned it. Number
one was Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We'll discuss is he the best non quarterback in football?
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Oh it was good. I saw the first three. It was.
You saw the first three?
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Yeah, it was as good as the first three, you know,
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I thought they were all good. I'm here with Chris
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All right, tyreek Hill number one in the players one
hundred top one hundred players in the league.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
What are your thoughts about that? And we get that
when it was picked.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Let's not go over the whole, not anything again, but
what are your thoughts about him? Is he the best
non quarterback let's take quarterbacks out.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
No, I don't think so. I think he's on a
short list of people who could be considered. But I
think the best non quarterback in the NFL right now
is Justin Jefferson, who obviously was nicked up for a
lot of last year, but you look at him. When
he was on the field, the production was undeniable and
that didn't matter who was thrown in the ball right,
and Vikings ran through all types. I think they started
four different quarterbacks last year Justin Jefferson despite missing what
(17:55):
seven games I believe with a hamstring and then missing
part of another one going to the hospital as we
saw on the Netflix show. But yeah, to me, it's
Justin Jefferson just because of his ability to turn something.
I mean, Tyreek Hill is probably the hardest to game
plan for just because of his breakneck speed, right, But
I think Justin Jefferson is impossible to defend even two
(18:15):
on one. Right, you could make a game plan for
him while you want. He's just gonna jump up and
catch the ball, and he just finds and finds ways
to get open, finds ways to react to all types
of poorly thrown balls. And I'm not saying that Tyreek
Hill doesn't also have that skill. I think Justin Jefferson
just has more of it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, I agree with you on there are a handful
of players you could consider as the best non quarterback
Miles Garrett sure TJ. Jatt Nick brought up Travis Kelsey
if you're talking about playoffs, which is fair. I mean,
Kelsey is a monster in the playoffs, has been, and
you know, again he didn't play well by his standards
(18:53):
last season, but when the playoffs came around, he was
awesome as usual, so Christian McCaffrey even, But I got
no problem with Tyreek being number one, and I would
take him over if.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I could choose, I would.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Take him over Justin Jefferson because I think his speed
just changes the game absolutely. And you're right, Jefferson has
really not had great quarterbacks. His best one obviously Kirk Cousins,
but Tyreek did damage with Alex Smith, obviously doing damage
with Tua. We'll see eventually over time how good Tua
(19:32):
really is, but outside of Patrick, he hasn't had a
great one. He's had good ones, and he still is
a monster. In fact, his numbers are even greater with Tua.
But because he is not only a deep threat, but
can is a threat to take every pass, a slant,
(19:52):
the quick release passes to the house. And he's strong,
so press coverage can't stop. And if he beats your
press what you will now you're you're in trouble. You
give him too much space, you're in trouble. Like he's
the whole back. He does drop.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
More passes than to Justin Jefferson. That's kind of where
that's my thing. That's the only negative you can say about.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Him, right, And it's not like he can't. You know,
he's terrible with the drops, but he will. It's almost
like sometimes I wonder like sometimes with his drops it
seems almost like a lack of concentration well or something,
you know, or he's thinking like, okay, I'm about to
break this, so I'm about to run and then he
just drops it.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Well, if you pay attention to the way he fundamentally catches
the ball, he's a body catcher. And you know, I've
seen people who have caught way more touchdowns than me
talk about how if you want to be truly elite
at catching the ball, you have to go and get
it with your hands.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
So like the catch, for example, that Justin Jefferson made
against the Bills, right, he went up in one hand
and got that thing and brought.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It back down, right.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
We don't see Tyreek Hill making those types of catching
right if it's in now. A lot of times he's
so damn open that it doesn't quite matter.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Well when he and you're right, he does tend to
be a body catcher. And you remember when he was
in Kansas City, a lot of remember mahomes, there were
a lot of times he underthrew Tyreek, but he was
so open. Tyreek would like wait on the ball or
come back three yards right, and and.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
But he was so wide open that it worked out.
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I mean, I think Jefferson has better hands, without question,
and some other dudes have better hands, but his speed
man makes it. It just changes the entire game. And
I think his hands are good enough, you know what
I mean. And his catch percentage is up there. You know,
it's not like a bad catch percentage. In fact, I
think it's catch percentage, and that's not just that's not drops,
(21:55):
but you know that's balls thrown to you, how many
of them you catch, So that can that the defense
has a part than that two. But I believe it's
catch percentage or catch raid is even higher than Justin's.
So it's not like a huge problem. But I think
its speed makes up for it, all right, the Big three, bro. Look,
we're hoping and believing with good reason, Martin, that we're
(22:17):
going to bring home the gold medal team USA Basketball.
But five on five basketball, three on three, we're a joke.
We're we won two out of seven games this year,
Jimmer for that, God bless them we need a new
number one, okay, and number two and number three, and
(22:37):
ice Cube has some ideas about that.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
We'll get to that next.
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We're gonna bring in Rob G.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So, as I said, our Team USA three on three
team did not meddle in men's basket.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
The women got bronze, I believe, right.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, and the Netherlands is the champion. And ice Cube
is as bothered as we are, the president of the
Big Three, owner, founder of the Big Three, legendary hip
hop artist, filmmaker, and actor, and he had an idea.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Rob g shared with us what ice Cube's talking about.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Well, he floated this idea out about four or five
days ago, once it became clear that the Team USA
team was just not cutting it. He said, we will
like to challenge whoever ends up bringing on the gold medal.
That's how confident we are in the squad we got here. Well,
now that it's official, with the Netherlands becoming your FEBA
three on three Olympic gold medalists, ice Cube and the
(23:51):
Big Three have officially issued the challenge in writing the
three All Three game with the Big Three All Stars
in Boston in August eighteenth against the Netherlands. All travel
expenses will be paid for. Winner takes home one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Look, you gotta love ice Q.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I mean, the dude is proven to be a terrific
businessman and this is business right, This is business for him.
Remember he offered Caitlin Clark the five million dollars to
play in the Big Three.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
That was business. Obviously she didn't do it smart on
her part.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I mean, that's a lot of money, but she wouldn't
have played well.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
But this is would be great for his league.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
If they beat the Olympic champion Martin, that's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
And I don't know who the Netherlands has.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I mean, I'm trying to think who's the NBA player
ever from the Netherlands is I'm probably there's.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Probably one or two, but anybody know one off the
top of her head?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
No, I don't, rob G is there one? I mean,
I don't know who that would be. I don't even
know who the All Stars would be for the Big Three.
I haven't been following it as closely, but he's talking
about an All Star team. So basically the best four
(25:18):
or five players in the Big Three, maybe minus a
couple because you know, you said it's.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Right before the Championship game, right, rob g.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
So the way that they play their All Star game
and they have their All Star Game as the you know,
preview the undercard to the Championship game later that day.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Right, So whatever All Stars or All Star caliber guys
are playing in the Championship I would imagine aren't eligible.
So it might be five of the best eight players
in the Big Three. And again I haven't followed it
that closely this year, but Martin, give me the Big Three.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I mean, this is what I'm I'm over here thinking,
all right, ice Cube. The last two times I've heard
about this Big Three is when you challenge Caitlyn Clark.
And now with this challenge, it kind of is giving
me the vibes of when Scott Frost was at UCF
saying we want Alabama like it really does.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
It's like nobody nobody is checking for you at this time.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
With nobody is checking for them, He's trying to get
you to start checking for you know, one thing that
might have helped maybe if he built the American squad
or you know, submitted his players to the American squad,
then we would be looking at Oh, these guys play
professionally in the Big Three, right, that's what I mean,
because you can't send NBA players because of the travel,
you know, the different restrictions.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Right three on three you have to play in a
World Cup.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Oh yeah, they need to get rid of that. I
think those those rules for eligibility.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Well they need to get rid of that. If the
United States was to keep winning or no start winning,
well I say we'll continue to win.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I say keep winning, like continue the five on five
winning that they would have into three on three because
you can't tell me like a team of Damian Lillard
oh uh.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know you name two others, Yeah, would have demolished
this thing, right of course.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
So what I would like to see is I would
like to see ice Cubes not necessarily play against the
gold medal winners, but the beat out the American team.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Have your you don't think they'd have a shot against
the Netherlands.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Not really, I mean do I think that?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Like I mean, Corey Brewer is the favorite for MVP
in the Big Three right now is out is Corey
We were in college at the same time, so close
to thirty five thirty six.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Oh, I'd be surprised if he's only that Corey Brewer.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I'm looking it up thirty eight thirty eight right so right?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So, I mean, and Corey wasn't even a big score
in the NBA exactly. So the fact that he's ruling, uh,
the MVP of this league, like, I think that this
is all a whole lot of ice cube making noise,
trying to get still. Look, I get it. No, it's
definitely that, don't get me wrong. But I also think
(28:17):
you thinks his players could could win the top scores
in total points.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Isaiah Briscoe remember him?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
He was you know, high school All American, played in Kentucky,
didn't do much in the NBA, was only there briefly.
Kevin Murphy, whoever that is, Michael Beasley. We all know
Michael Beasley and how great he was. Corey Brewer's fourth
and Jeremy Pargo. I mean, I don't know, it's interesting.
(28:52):
I hope this happens, and I don't. I can't say
for sure that the NBA or the I'm sorry, the
Big Three would win because as you said, I mean,
these guys are older, but they still are NBA caliber guys.
Were NBA Calidar weren't right, were NBA caliber guys, but
a certain basketball IQ even though a guy like Beasley
(29:17):
wasn't viewed as you know, he wasn't a smart smartest,
he wasn't a smart player, let's put.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
It that way.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
But still that's compared to NBA guys. I it would
be interesting. I hope it happened, and if they get blasted,
shout out to the Netherlands, and then maybe that'll force
America to step it up and have a better Big
three team or or you know, three three on three team.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
But I like to see this smart so would you bother?
Would you like to see it? I'd watch it. I'd
watch it for sure. But I also think that the
Netherlands would beat them handily if their a team that's
already played together, a team like that. They have all like,
it's more true than three on three basketball. There's a
on five basketball.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
But what's the what's the age old trope that we
hear about these international teams, especially over the last fifteen years, chemistry.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
They've been playing together forever.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Like these guys have legitimately been playing to get like
too qualified for three on three in the Olympics. You
gotta play the summers prior, you know. So that's the
way that they've doing it over there. The Netherlands team
would have much more chemistry, you think than a Big
three team that was kind of you know, slapped.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
The needs to practice a little bit, for sure. I
don't know, though, it would be interesting to me to
see this happen. I hope it does, and I agree
it's I said it from the top. It is a
business move from ice Q to get more eyeballs on
his league.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I think that's smart. This will certainly do it, man.
I hope.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Look, there's no if let's let's put the shoe on
the other foot. If you're the Netherlands, are you interested
in this mark? It's only I think he needs offer
more than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. That's like nothing.
But I guess what, I know a lot some of
the guys in the league make that, so I guess
that's why he's like, he can't go too high. But
(31:09):
I don't think that's a large amount of money for
these guys to do this.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I think if you're up to to maybe three hundred k,
so that means everybody you know are four because these
teams are four players, one guy who come up to man, right,
everybody get a hundred thousand each, all expenses paid. I
mean I would look around at my gold medal compatriots
and say, well, you know, we go do it again
for a nice little bonus check. Why not did you
(31:34):
watch any of the three on three?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I watched, No, I did not.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, I watched a little bit of the women's Yeah,
but I didn't see any of the men.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
So I don't know what the strategies are. I would
they play ones and twos instead of twos and threes.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I was reading Jimmer for Debt saying that one of
the differences, there's no help sides.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
You have to defend more. Uh you know, but well
I know that killed Jimmer. There's more, right, I see.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
That's where and that's where I think maybe the big
three guys might have a little bit of an advantage, right,
I mean, you know they can go, you know, beat
Michael Beasley can go one on one, and I get it,
he's older.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Not what he used to be.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
But you know you got to be in some shape
to play three on three for as long as they play,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I will tell you I would have been locked in
if you told me that Corey Brewer and Michael Beasley
were two of the four because I got it now.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I gotta see that and Beasley can. I mean, Brewer
was a defender. That was his bread and butter. Hopefully
they do it. I would love to see it.
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the way tire Byne should be. Terris Crawford remained undefeated
Martin with a victory on Saturday night. Rob g you
saw the fight. I did not see it. I looked
(34:16):
at the highlights. I read the stories and comments from
some of the you know, the top commentators out there.
Israel mad Madrimov I hope. I said that Modromoff is
who he beat.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
But Crawford was not impressive. It was a close fight, right.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It was the first time in what like a decade
or so that he's gone the distance it's been.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
It was his first time not having a fight and
in a knockout in since twenty sixteen. Yeah, it's eight
years and Madre Moov had only fought eleven professional fights
before this one. Now he must I saw that he
just having at ry had three replus amateur fights. Because
nobody was looking at the fact that he had only
(35:06):
had eleven fights.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I thought it was even what was he ten oh
and one? He was the champion coming in, so that
sounds how he is, so nobody was looking at it.
Remember low Minchenko is like that too, exactly. He had
had a lot of fights.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
So with Crawford, the last time we saw him was
a year ago at the Spence five when he put
on one of the all time great boxing performances. People
were expecting something similar on Saturday. I just didn't get it,
and as a result, it kind of he went up
to up to one fifty four his first time in
that weight division, and that he's a champion in that division,
but because he wasn't as impressive as people hoped he
(35:38):
would be, it kind of threw a monkey wrench into
this perspective. Super fight between him and Canelo Alfridge, which
he's been talking about now for months, and Canelo has
said all along that he has no interest in fighting Crawford.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
He's too small.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
He has nothing to really gain by going down that
low of a weight class. And while today speaking on
a Sways Shade for forty five radio show, Connello now
says if the money is right, he will fight Crawford,
but he did add it's gonna be easy money at
one sixty eight, implying he still has no intention of
(36:13):
going down one fifty four or even at a catchweight
for that.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
But that look, if I'm Crawford and I you know,
only Crawford knows. Now, he said, Modrumov was very strong,
and that appeared to be the case in the fight.
If I'm Crawford, he knows how strong, right, he knows
how that strength affected him.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I'm certainly not going but above one fifty four for.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Canelo, and he might depend on again how strong he
felt Midramov was. He may just not want a fighting, uh,
even if Connelo would come down to that. But to me, Crawford,
it has to happen at.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
One fifty four. Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
And Rob g to bring people behind the curtain. You
and I were talking before the show about this, and
you said you thought Canelo shouldn't fight him just.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Because the money. You know, he has nothing for it.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I actually think he does, like Crawford would. Who's who's
Canelo's biggest.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
Victory over Glovekin twice? Yeah, that's a pretty bids big
time right, A lot of guys, right, But if.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
He I think his crowning achievement, it'd have to have
that one four would be beating Cross And I'm not
I'm not guaranteeing he would, but I think that that's.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
What he has the game from it legacy. Now if he.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Doesn't, if that weight would really mess him up, then
he shouldn't do it. But I think, look, he'll get
a lot of money. I think it would be as big.
I think it would be as big as Crawford Spence.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
Well, therein lies the problem, Chris, because Terrence Crawford, as
good as he is, his only his best pay per
view by was against Spence seven hundred thouves. And Canelo
does that no matter who he fights, He gets seven
under ground. Before that, Crawford was getting one thirty five,
one fifty fifty thousand, buyers. So if your Canelo, is
it worth it for you to fight a guy who's
(38:12):
at least twenty pounds lighter than you. So if he wins,
just say, hey, you find a guy who's that small,
people are.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Gonna give him props.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
The bottom line is, if you're fighting, and you're fighting
at the same you know, by the time they got
in the ring, it wouldn't be the same weight, but
you know at the way end it'd be roughly the
same way.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Yeah, but you know how it is, it works, Chris.
I mean, they are classes for a reason. Nobody wants
to see a heavyweight take on a middleweight.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
But Cannelo fought Floyd, and I know it was years ago,
but I'm just saying, nobody's gonna if he beat ters
Crawford at one fifty four, nobody's gonna be like he
beat a chump, he'd beat a lightweight. That would be arguably,
I think that would be as great as Gilofkin was.
I think that be the biggest win on his resume.
So I think that's the reason you do it. See,
(38:56):
I'm from the era where cats fought you. From this
era of they fought weak and zero, we climb them.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
In sugar Right. Leonard Fall a light heavyweight. He went
up from Walter Webb like heavy.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
He didn't fight a guy who was coming down from
heavyweight to fight.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
My point is, dude, like it happened. I mean, people
have moved around. We need more time on this Rob's
Chicken Rob g
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