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August 6, 2024 37 mins

FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Chris discuss the scathing report focusing on the toxic culture within Deion Sanders’ Colorado Buffaloes football program, explain why they have a problem with the NCAA trying to drop the hammer on Michigan football one year after their sign-stealing scheme came to light and share their thoughts on Lamar Jackson’s tremendous weight loss this offseason. Plus, the guys answer the tough questions in this week’s edition of Trollin’ or Rollin’.

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Martin quickly, NBA TV is playing the nineteen eighty seven
All Star Game and it's a game like they're really playing,

(01:16):
they're really competing in which I know I remember watching
this in college, but I'm just saying, like to think
how different it is now is unbelievable and it looks
like hat from the get go they were doing like
I think now I'm thinking it's the second quarter, but
from the get go they were really playing hard and

(01:39):
half of the best players of about like Magic Bird,
Doctor j Jordan, Isaiah, Charles Barkley, Moses Malone, Kareem like
they're all out there. It's just it's pretty it's pretty
pretty awesome, all right, he's paying attention to flipping on.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, rab g put that on.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
I know he's probably got it on the Golden Girls
or Happy Days or some Seinfeld.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
France First Germany and handball. So there you go.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, I got the diving on, and I'm telling you
the diving like there are some Olympics sports, obviously track
and field, but there are a lot of these Martin
that every Olympics I get into and I find myself saying, man,
they really should be these athletes should be more celebrated

(02:35):
because they are terrific athletes. We don't happen to value
their sports as much as basketball, football, and baseball, sure,
but they're no less great athletes and gymnastics, swimming, diving.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Like I said, of course, track and.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Field, But I really wish they would get a little
more love just throughout the year, where it wasn't just
every four years. And you used to have that, Martin
with wide world of sports. You probably don't even do
you remember that. I know you've heard of it. I
know the concept.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
I've seen episodes on YouTube before, but it's not yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Every Saturday, and I'll be I'll keep it real.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Every Saturday was a bit much for those sports. But again,
I just think they should be celebrated at least yearly,
if not a little more.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
But it's good to at least see them doing their
thing in the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
All right, let's go to college football, where, of course
Deon Sanders has taken the college football world by storm,
not necessarily on the field, but certainly off of.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
It at Colorado.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
And there's an article in ath Line magazine that basically
rips his program.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
They quote ath Line Sports.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
They quote one player, one former player, as saying it's
like a real life Grand Theft.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Auto video game.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
There are many distractions, with fights, guns and money floating
around the environment is unlike any I've come from before.
Now I am reading a summary from another article, not
the Athline Sports article, Rob g chime in and correct

(04:24):
me if I'm wrong on anything, But they are accused
of a lot of fighting and players challenging other players manhood,
essentially making guys fight and challenging guy's manhood if they
don't fight. And you know one one calling we know

(04:50):
the guy that left Cormone McClain Supposedly Shiloh Sanders slapped
him five times before he left the program, and McClain
was saying he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Kill Shiloh and all that. And when McClain left.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
He said that it's hard when the coaches you trust
are calling I don't know if this is a quote
actually just an anonymous player. He said, it's hard when
the coaches you trust are calling you derogatory names on
the practice field.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Now, I will say this fighting.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Now, if players are bullying other teammates and saying like,
if you don't fight, you're not a man, and we're
gonna make you to fight, you gotta fight each other,
that stuff obviously is out of bounds. But playing on

(05:51):
athletic teams, sometimes guys get in the fights.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yea.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
And if guys happen to get into some fights, gonna
sit here and act like that's.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
So abnormal and terrible.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
I'm not saying I'm pushing for guys to fight, but
if two guys have.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
A disagreement or something in football, in.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Basketball or whatever and have a fight, that happens, you
have clicks and things like that. Got you get guys
that don't get along and things like that.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
So again, if it's you gotta.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
If they're forcing guys to fight, if they're bullying guys,
that's one thing.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Certainly shouldn't be any hazing we've seen.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
You remember there's a program recently where it was sexual
hazing going on and stuff like that. There's no mention
of that here with Colorado, thankfully, but stuff like that
obviously is way out of bounds. And play coaches calling
players derogatory names?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
What are they saying? What are they saying?

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Like how bad is because again I've had coaches that
will call players names. Now, I think there's a limit,
but I also think it depends, you know, It's depends
on what it is they're saying. How often are you
saying it, what's the tone you're saying it in like.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
All types of stuff. So but the bottom line is
people are coming at Dion for his.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Program, and you know, the only way you can shut
people up is to win.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
Yeah, I mean really the reality of there's a lot
of different factors that go into this, and I think
the number one that you can't ignore is Dion's personality
in all of this. It seems as if I put it,
like the stories that you hear coming out, they kind
of track with the way that Dion's some of his
personality in the way he talks about players that he

(07:37):
doesn't value, or you know, there's no real value in
building at Colorado. It's like they wants ready made projects,
I mean ready made products rather. You know, he said
that he's bringing his Louis luggage with him.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well, he didn't.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Exactly build the factory, right, It's not like he's building
the factory to make Louis luggage. This is Louis luggage
that he is bringing with them from other places that
built it.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
So the thing when you have is a unique scenario
where this is.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
A transfer portal program like if you can, like, you
are not competing against the guys who are across from
you or the guys who are above you in the
depth chart. You are competing with the entirety of college football.
It teams at Colorado to get on the field. So
if you're one of those people, but.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
You don't think it's they may be a little more
than most, but you don't think it's kind of becoming
that way nationally.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
I think it is. But when you look at Okay,
so the difference in the two programs.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Of what I know.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
We're going to dive into Michigan and some of the
allegations later, But when you look at Michigan and let's
say hypothetically, these players knew about this allegation, right, they
knew about all of this stuff, because if they, I mean,
they would have to write if it were really benefiting
from it from that much, they're still Will Johnson, all
the defensive captains, they all came back, Colston Lovelace was
a senior.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
They all came back. Not just came back to Michigan.
They didn't. They just didn't. They didn't transfer either.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Only one key on sab that I can think of,
which was a high level player for Michigan last year,
transfer to Alabama.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Right.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
They wanted to be at Michigan, right, despite all of
the potential troubles that could come down I think what
happens is when you build a program up in a
different way, like Michigan is built off those who stay
will become champions. Colorado was built off of if you
can't stick it here, you could find somewhere else to go.
So there's no level of like the freshman at Colorado

(09:24):
that knows, all right, well, you know what, if I
don't hack it this year, I'm gonna go out to
get my sophomore year, and then maybe by my junior
year I'll be starting, and then my senior year, maybe
I can get to the NFL. Like that doesn't seem
like a legitimate thought process if you're a player in
the Colorado program. So as a result, all these kids transfer,
and as a result, all of it had nothing bit
to say about the place that just kind of showed

(09:44):
them the door.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
So I think you have that in store too.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
I think some of the money, I mean the cars
and the money thing, I think that's probably but that
was the thing guns.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Obviously there's no place for guns in the locker. That's ridiculous.
Or to be honest, I mean, look, guys, the money,
some of that's now.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Gonna come with in Il Martin that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
I think, I mean, money's gonna be you know, floating
around like that. That's just that's just what's gonna happen
with it. I would say, guns obviously can't be.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Can't you're not really looking for the guns, even open
carry whatever, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Keep it out of the locker room.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
That's you know, that's all well and fine if you
want to do something different when you go to Walmart,
but in this locker room, let's keep everything about football then.
But secondly, the thing that really concerned me of the most,
honestly out of reading this, because I think there's a
couple bad apples here and there where you're recruiting, and
that happens when you're recruiting in football.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Right.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
What concerned me was the son of the defensive back
coach owing ten thousand dollars in gambling debts to another player. Now,
this is obviously all from the report. I'm not reading
this out of the Wall Street Journal. It's on athlonsports
dot com, right, so you know, it's not like it's
front page news on CNN. But the idea that one
of your players is in ten thousand dollars a gambling

(10:59):
day to another player. That's concerning that is the one
that really jumped off the page to me personally, because
that you.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Know, like that and that led to a fight.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Well, my dad always told me that guys fight over
two things, women and money.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, I mean, and thankfully that's all it was, is
a fight, right, because like, ten thousand dollars is a
lot for a college too, right, I mean, when and
that's and I'm not people know, I'm not down on
an il.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
But when I was in college and guys got a little.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Bit of money and you make a bet, okay, you
owe somebody fifty bucks, you know something like that. Right
when that becomes ten thousand or five thousand even or
something like, that's when it will lead to this type
of thing. But again, how do you I mean, I
guess you can try to make rules that guys you
can't gamble, you can't bet certain amounts of money or whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
But we see it, Martin all the.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Time in the NBA, guys betting, gambling and betting on airplanes.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
We of course.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Remember the Gilbert Arenas Javars Critenston situation with the Washington
Wizard years ago. If guys have this type of money.
Then unfortunately they're going a lot of cases they're gonna
be betting this type of money, and.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
That's that's a problem.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
I do think that you know, Dion obviously, you know,
carries himself as a man of high integrity.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
He speaks a lot about the Lord and things like that.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
And you if that's the case, then you want to
get your program under control.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
And I get it.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Look, everybody's not gonna be a Christian. All your players
aren't gonna be. They don't have to be, you know, like,
you'll coach whatever you want good players and guys with
with decent character.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
So I'm not saying everybody's got to be going to
Bible study on your.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Team, and you're not responsible for all the actions of
the players, but there should be a stake.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
You gotta set a standard that guys shoot four guys
know they need to try to live by or stuff
like this will happen. But look, Urban Meyer's program was
running amuck. We programs right in various places, and this
is not I mean, I do think there's a little

(13:22):
bit of piling on Dan. And I'm not saying I mean,
I have no reason not to believe what's written, but
I'm just saying I don't doubt that a lot of
this stuff takes.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Place in many programs.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
But because of Dion's flamboyant, charismatic personality, the way he
got all the publicity last year for winning four games.
This when you do that, when you talk it like
he does, guys are going to go for you. And
that's what they're doing right now. And they're gonna do
it on the field too. Teams are going to look

(13:55):
to punish Colorado on the football.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Field, oh man, I mean absolutely, especially when some of
the things that like Shadora said, like this is our
super Bowl, but like the money thing, having it in
the locker room, you know, rather than not. But the
gambling of it, that's that to me is signs of
a much bigger problem. If you're continuing, if one guy's
got ten thousand dollars in gambling debt, how much gambling

(14:19):
debt is going around here, especially as money fast and flowing,
especially at a place like Colorado.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
And you're gonna have And it was the same thing
with Arenas and Crittinton. Arenas was a max player. Crittinton
was not close to that, right and he's betting with
Gilbert Arenas.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
How many of these kids that have huge.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
In IL deals obviously Dion's sun Shador and Travis Hunter
and guys like that, are guys that aren't making close
to that and in IL if anything, betting with them, right,
you in trouble.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
So you broke probably right, and it'd.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Be tempting because they got the money and if you
think you can beat them, you can get some of
that money. But what if you don't beat them, What
if you lose and you owe them? That ain't good.
So all right, you mentioned Michigan, You're Alma mater. We're
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(16:54):
are under fire. University of Michigan, which of course won
the National Championship of Football last year, is catching heat,
to say the least. Rob g summarize, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
Not looking good for our boys in amazing Blue because
new head coach's editorializing summer. This is totally objective here.
Charon Moore is one of seven members of the twenty
twenty three football program accused of violating NCAA rules. According
to this draft of notice of allegations obtained by ESPN,
more allegedly deleted a thread of fifty two text messages

(17:30):
with former Michigan staffer the Estrange Connor Stallions in October
twenty three, on the same day that the media reports
revealed that Stallions was leading an effort to steal signals
from opposing from opposing teams. Now, Moore's only accused of
committing a level two violation according to this draft, but
he could face suspension because he's seen as a repeat

(17:53):
offender stemming from what do they call it? Impersonal impermissible
benefitsruiting wise, However, former Michigan staff members Chris Partridge, Robinson, Connor, Stallions,
and Jim Harbaugh are accused of committing Level one violation,
which is more serious because, according to the nc DOUBLEA,

(18:16):
they showed a quote pattern of non compliance within the
football program and institutional efforts to hinder or thwart the
ncuba's investigation into the sign stealing scheme.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
I gotta be honest, Martin, and shout out to Pete Famil.
Great reporting on this, but I don't want to hear
it from the nc DOUBLEA. Now that Jim Harbaugh and
what is it, Martin, seven of the coaches from his
staff or gone from Michigan.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Is that accurate? Sounds about right by it. Definitely more
than five now that.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
They're all gone, I don't want to hear you coming
down with anything. They're not taking then national championship away,
so that the time to strike has passed.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
In my view, if you wanted to be taken seriously,
if you want to be viewed as a legitimate organization
with the power to discipline, you should have done it
with Harball was still the coach coming night coaching the
LA charge. He's not thinking about you. He did come
in and say he didn't do anything, and I will

(19:30):
give him this. It's hard to believe it is hard
to believe that he did not know what was going on.
I mean, it's your program. All the coaches know, except
you can. It's hard to believe, but I will give
you this. I'll give Harball this.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Martin.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
That's a heck of a denial he issued the other day. Like,
if you're gonna deny, that's the way to do it.
I mean, he's like, I've been raised I'm paraphrasing, but
I've been raised about on honesty my whole life and
doing things the right way, and don't tell.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I mean, if he is lying, then, my goodness, is
he lying right? Like? I mean, come on, like you
cheating on you, cheating on your wife?

Speaker 4 (20:14):
You say, are you kreitting me? My grandfather didn't cheat
on his wife. My father didn't cheat on his wife.
The last thing I'd ever do in my life. I
would have no integrity, no honor if my cheat on
my wife. But you're really doing it, I mean, that's
the heck of a lie to tell. So I would
give hardbid. He sounds convincing, but it is hard. I

(20:34):
think even you will admit Martin, it's hard to believe.
But all I'm saying is this too little too late
forget to slap on the wrist, and you want to
punish the current coach, really stop it. He wasn't a
ring leader the ring leaders in the NFL. You can't
do a thing to him. So enough from the NCAA.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Yeah, Jim Harbaugh sounds a little bit more compelling than
I didn't know what the speed limit was, officer right, Like.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
He's going a little bit further than that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, for me, this is much Ado about nothing. This
is the NCAA trying to remain relevant when you consider
that their biggest relevant c has now been taken off
the table.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Because could you.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Imagine the NCAA violations that Colorado would be under right
now with all that money flowing around Exactly, they're sitting
back and they have nothing else to do. This was
already you know, investigated, tried and adjudicated. Like how many
times are you gonna try to punish the team for
the same thing? Right, I don't understand there had been

(21:36):
no games played since, Like, there's been no change, There's been.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Nothing else, There's been nothing new.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
I will say this this Connor Stallion's Untold documentary that
comes out August twenty seventh on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
If Connor Stallions.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
Comes out and go scortch to earth on everybody in
the program, and now all of a sudden it's like, no,
it'd become and he provides mad evidence that horrible was
you know talking with him and just you know, like
just really incriminates him. Then shame on you, Jim Harbaugh,
because you didn't win a damn bit of nothing prior

(22:12):
to Connor Stallion scout in these games, and all of
a sudden you turned into the best coach in the
Midwest afterward. So and then not only that, when the
block got hot, you decided to run.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
No no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
That to me, you know I did, I would be
scorched earth over Jim Jimmy Burgers, as my co host
VJ calls them, because that would have been That's the
only reason Shimon Moore is even being considered as a
level two guys because of the whole burger during COVID fiasco.
That's the reason, not because of his involvement with all

(22:47):
this or whatever that involvement may eventually turn out to be.
So I say, this is just the NCAA trying to
remain relevant and they're slipping away, and especially with conference
realignment soon we will have the Eastern and Western Conference
of College Football and that will be all that matters.
The NAA will have their two little tournament in March,
and that's that.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
All right.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Trolling a roll is next. Keep it a couple, but.

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Speaker 7 (23:23):
That's right, it is trolling and roll in on the
OKAPA Fox Sports Rader. I'm not Martin wise, but he's
still sitting right there ready to chime in on this topic.
I got three stories, didn't quite make the full show,
but we had to get him in any ways, because
cool like that. If you guys like the story, they
get the roll sound. If they don't like it, to
get the troll sound. Super complex. I don't know how

(23:47):
anybody could ever possibly host this.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Again, editorializing, not summarizing again, all right, So let's get
to it.

Speaker 7 (23:55):
On Tuesday, during the Olympic action before Team USA clobber Brazil,
France upset.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Canada, that's not the story.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
The story here is that Rudy Gobert three time NBA
Defensive Player of the Year was outright benched by the
French coach, and afterwards Gobert said that the reason he
didn't play is because he had surgery on his finger
and he was just happy to get out there in
any way he could played a total of three minutes. However,

(24:25):
French head coach Vincent Corlaer said Gobert did not have
surgery on his finger. The lineup change was simply based
on matchups. Chris Broussard trolling or rolling that my man
Rudy Gobert allegedly made up an entire surgery story to
justify him getting sent to ride the pine.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Oh, I'm rolling with it.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Grudgingly. I mean, I hate to think somebody would do that.
I hate to think that you. I mean, look, if
you're gonna make if you're embarrassed, you've been France's golden boy.
I mean, obviously Tony Parker was way better than you.
But you know, up until Winby, you were kind of
the current guy.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Right.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
He's better than Nick Batoom, He's all these Defensive Player
of the Year awards, so on and so forth. If
you're embarrassed, I get it. But if you're gonna make
up a story, just make it. You know, I wasn't
feeling good, my hamstring, my back, something like that.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
To say you had surgery? Is that what he said?
Come on, man, Rudy, that you went too far.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
So I hope it's not true, But I mean, if
the coach said it wasn't true, I kind of gotta
believe that.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
To me, I'm rolling with it.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
It's gotta be terribly embarrassing to be as decorated as
an NBA player as Rudy Gobert is and get benched
unceremoniously for France, and I think he came up, cooked
it up.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
He's like, hey, I gotta have some excuse that.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
Maybe this is why Jokics doesn't do media for Serbia
in the Olympics, because he just doesn't want to calling
up to anything.

Speaker 7 (26:09):
I wouldn't either. I'll tell you what. The key to
a good lie is the details. But you got to
be within reason true. So he said, hey, my fingers
are taped up. They were really bothering me, and I
knew it was gonna be better for the team that
so and so played in front of me, But no,
I had a food blown surgery and I'd be lucky
to be out here today say something about the.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Grace of God.

Speaker 7 (26:27):
He's like, or at least get your coach on the
same right, Like, text me before I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Just just agree with me, all right.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
Story number two, Charles Barkley said about a month and
a half ago that with TNT losing the rights of
the NBA, that he was going to retire after the
upcoming twenty twenty four twenty five NBA season. Apparently he
had to changed heart, because on Tuesday he said that
not only is he not going to retire, he fully

(26:56):
intends to fulfill the rest of his TNT contract, which
runs through twenty thirty two, whether they have an NBA
package or not, that he's just planning on sticking it
out with Turner Sports. Mar Wise trolling or rolling that
we'll say the over under on Charles Barkley sticking it
out with TNT four and a half years.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
I will troll that.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
This is a leverage play to up his number for
the next network. But I told Rob Parker on these
very airwaves two weeks ago, there's no way that Chuck
was leaving that.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Money on the table. And you know what, he didn't.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yeah, I am four and a half years. So the
question is do I think he'll be at TNT for
four and a half yes?

Speaker 7 (27:45):
Year, Yeah, you're rolling with at least four and a
half more years.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I'm rolling with that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
I mean he's sixty one, so it's not gonna be.
I don't think it's gonna be through twenty thirty two.
I just think he'll want to move on, you know,
rather than spend what could be I guess the last
year was of his life doing that.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
But yeah, I could definitely see five years there.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
I mean sixty one, you know, sixty five, sixty six
years old.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
He looks like he's in pretty good shape.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yeah, I can see him being there for four five
more years?

Speaker 7 (28:18):
All right, Chris quickly before the last question, who retires first?
Charles Barkley or Rob Parker from their media?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
James, that's a good one because Rob is sixty. I'm
gonna say Barkley.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Last one?

Speaker 7 (28:30):
Trol and Roland Akaba, Fox Sports Radio. Martin White sitting
in for agree with that, Martin, Yes, I do. Sitting
in alongside Chris is a lifer forever.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
He's gonna die on air.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
I can feel it right right, all right, I'm gonna
go that for it, right, all right. He's gonna collapse.
It's gonna be in the middle of a fire. Y
MLB is better than the NBA. Ram croap there, all right.
Last one, Lordie Markingen, who apparently the apple of everyone's

(29:01):
eye in this NBA offseason, has reportedly agreed to a
massive contract extension with the Utah Jazz, making him virtually
untradeable until next summer.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I don't know that's possible. Chris trolling or rolling.

Speaker 7 (29:19):
The Utah Jazz are making a mistake by holding on
to such a good player as Marketing when the Cooper
Flag Sweepstakes is right around the corner.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
I'll roll with that. I'll roll with that. Marketing is good.
There's a lot of people out there that wanted him.
Danny Ains drives a hard bargain, but let's face it,
I mean, Utah, if you got marketing, they've got pretty
good coaching. If they play hard, they will win some games,

(29:53):
and that's not really what they're looking to do.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
So yeah, I'm rolling with that move.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
If you can't get Danny can't get as much as
he thinks he wants. But still you get a bunch
of draft picks for him, move on and rebuild your team.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm trolling.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
I think you got a player like Laura Markin who
actively wants to be in Utah for reasons that are
unknown to me, because I couldn't pick a single one.
He seems to have a few. If you got a
guy that caliber, you can lock him in. Guess what,
You're still gonna stink overall, And as we've seen with
the Pistons, they've been the worst team in the NBA
last year's at the fifth pick. If you're in the lottery,
you got a shot at the number one overall pick.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
So what you're saying is marketing to schedule the fake
surgery like Rudy Gobert.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Well, I don't think he's gonna be the guy that
keeps him in or out of the lottery, is what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
All right, And that's trolling. Rolling. All right, Thank you Roberts,
I'm trolling. He's sort of delivered. Wow.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
All right, Well, Lamar Jackson has dropped some weight.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Is that a good thing or a bad thing? We'll
talk about that next.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
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Speaker 1 (31:30):
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Speaker 4 (31:34):
All right, Martin Lamar Jackson has dropped a lot of
weight after gaining weight the past couple of years. He
is noticeably thinner, and I think he's gonna be noticeably faster.
And he hasn't come out explicitly and said this, like
this is why he's done it. But Martin, I think

(31:58):
he's done this to get back to speed he used
to have.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yep. I think he.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Knows he couldn't run away from guys the way he
used to. And I think in that AFC title game,
and I'm not gonna focus on that one play, the
twenty one yard run where he couldn't run away from
Leageria's need didn't even really try and kept looking back.
You know, I just think that in that game, overall,

(32:26):
he was intent on proving he could stay in the pocket,
be a pocket passer. And now after the way they
were beaten, I think he understands. Now, Look, I'm just
gonna do me, and part of me is being the
most elusive quarterback in the history of the league. And

(32:47):
I'm still gonna do my pocket thing. I'm still gonna
throw it a lot. I've improved a great deal in
that area, and we're gonna utilize eight flowers and the
rest of our receivers. But with Dereck Henry and him,
like I mean, opposing defenses, you have to worry about
Derrick Henry and you also have to worry about Lamar

(33:09):
Jackson running the football. I mean, that's gonna be a
dangerous tandem. And that's why I think he's lost the weight.
And I do think it'll pay dividends for him in
the Ravens.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
I think so as well. When you and I get it, Okay,
you know everybody can't he win from the pocket? Well,
you know, it doesn't matter if you don't lose from
outside the pocket.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Right, who cares?

Speaker 5 (33:31):
Also, when you look at Lamar Okay, why would you
bulk up, right because you get hurt all the time. Well,
Lamar's had some injuries, but lay me, the last time
that Lamar was in the open field and just got
blown up doesn't really happen, right, He got hurt, like
you said, in the pocket, right, he gets.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Hurt in the pock. Serious injuries.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Yeah, But I mean he's not you know, when he runs,
he gets out of boundary, he gets down to a
point where he's not taking a massive, you know, hit
from a safety or a linebacker, So that extra mass
probably not needed in the same way I think when
you look at him, and he played obviously very very
well last year, man, what was the league MVP, but
they didn't have the same I mean, we'll see it.

(34:11):
I think we'll see it now that he's lost his weight.
But every year, Week one, Week two, you're watching red
zone and all of a sudden it flips over and
whoever's announcing it is like and there goes Lamar Jackson's
seventy six yards.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Of the house untouched. Right.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Well, I think, well, now that he's lost his weight,
can get back to some of that speed because look, man,
the Reid option faking the ball to Derrick Henry or
Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Comean, I know it's twenty twenty four.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
People want to see the ball through the air, but
that smashed my football right there.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Pal.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Now you got to lean into who you are. And
again they didn't do that. They actually leaned a weight
from who they were and still only lost to the
Chiefs by a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Fumbling the end zone.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Eight penalties, at least five of them, you know, fifteen
yards unsportsmanlike conduct, rough in the pack like things that
were avoidable, the taunting penalty by Zay Flowers that cost him.
Like they if they had and I don't want to
take anything away from the Chiefs, but if they had

(35:13):
just been themselves, they could have maybe they could have
won that game. And I think they realized that. And
I do like Martin like Lamar's demeanor. I mean it's
a great demeanor. He doesn't seem overburdened by the.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Loss, right. I mean, you want a guy to take it.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Seriously, and we know he does, because that's all he
talks about is winning the super Bowl. But he doesn't
seem like it's gotten him down, you know what I mean,
like it's made him doubt himself, made him question himself.
His confidence seems high as ever, and again I think
that's a good.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Sign for the Ravens. Yeah, I think it's a good
sign as well.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
I like the offseason skilled position of additions that they
made little concerned about losing two starters on that offensive
line in free agency, but they were on the older
side of things. See how they fill that in. But
also to an organization in which in Baltimore, you feel
pretty good about their ability to reload, especially at those
trench positions, because when's the last time they've had a

(36:10):
bad offensive or defensive line, especially.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Under the hardball era John this time, not Jim.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
But that's the thing, because they did lose you know,
some defensive coaches, they lost some defensive players. But I mean,
like you said, under Harball, two things you can pretty
much count on are the Ravens having a strong run
game and the Ravens having.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
A strong defense.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yep, I mean, like one of the top five defenses
in the league. Like that's almost automatic. So I do
feel like the guys they put in there are they're
gonna slip and slide into a program and a system
that can get it done and I think we're running
the football. They've ran it well with kind of no names,
with all due respect to Gus Edwards and guys like

(36:55):
that JK. Dobbins, but with Dreck Henry now, oh my
gosh to you and worrying.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
About Lamar to your point, Keaton Mitchell last year went
nuts for them.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah yeah, I mean whoever is gonna run it well
with them? So so yeah, I think that this will
be good for them, and it's gonna be interesting to
see Lamar do his thing.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Also, second year in that new offense.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah right, he should be more comfortable, no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
All right, It is the odd couple.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Chris Bruceard Martin Weiss was in for Rob Parker. Uh,
we are signing off after a three hour show. But
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