August 6, 2024 • 38 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Chris tell us if the San Francisco 49ers would be making a mistake by trading away Brandon Aiyuk this close to the start of the regular season and explain they both hope that Justin Fields beats out Russell Wilson to become the QB1 in Pittsburgh. Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Antonio Daniels swings by to discuss Jamal Murray’s struggles in the Olympics, why other countries don’t fear Team USA Basketball like they used to, why he’s not as high on the Oklahoma City Thunder entering the 2024-25 season as the rest of the basketball world and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
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and trash.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Anyone or anything in the world of sports.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You'll have thirty to forty seconds to do so, so
get your takes ready and come correct.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Martin Weiss you trashing anybody.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I'm trashing Brian Finley for the way that he was
running from fear for this bat.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean you should have seen it.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I mean, he's a recently married manage gott to protect
his household.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
You know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's a bat, Martin. I mean look, I mean you
said a bird. It's different running from a little bird
and then a bat.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, Martin, you said a bird. That's that's totally different.
I thought it was a bird.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I mean, I'm sorry I couldn't completely identify you.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'd like to see how you handled that bat, dacause
I got sources in that studio that told me, as
Elijah was bravely running that bat out of the building,
you were cowering in the left corner in the embryo position.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
No what I was trying to do. That's what my
source said. Well, your source, unfortunately, Chris. The rule of
journalism should have two sources to confirm all stories.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I got three, all three of them.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Lionet, your pal I was over here, explained to you
how international basketball hasn't caught up. But you got to riber, Chris,
I'm a boy that's actually legitimately from South Louisiana. I
had bats in the house before, birds all over the place.
You know what we do we killed them?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Did you ever kill a bat?
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You by yourself individually?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes, I really I don't know if I believe you.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I have to call source Greg Wiss to see if
he'll corroperate somebody.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Down there in Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
See what they say.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
But nah, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
The big news in the NFL, Martin, is that not
we know Brandon Ayuka has been holding in, meaning he'll
go to practice but don't participate.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And now the reports are that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
He could very likely be traded because the forty nine
ers have agreed.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
To terms on trades with Cleveland and New England.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
The Cleveland deal would be Amari Cooper and a draft
pick or draft picks, maybe a little fluff thrown in
from either even both sides perhaps.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
And then New England would be Kendrick Bourne and some picks.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And now the Steelers, who were rumored to be involved
interested and then they got out. Now where it is
they're back in and Washington, which had been in because
Brandon Aiyuk and Jayden Daniels were teammates at Arizona State
several years ago at this point, about five years ago.
(03:48):
I guess their friends and they hang and they love
to play together again. So they were in it, but
now the reports that they've dropped out. But here's what
I want to throw at you. Would the forty nine
ers be making a mistake Martin if they traded Brandon
a you because remember he has no leverage. He can
(04:10):
hold in and all that, but at the end of
the day, if he doesn't play game, now, I guess
he could. You know, I hate to even put this,
but faking injury. Sure, you know one of those injuries
you can't tell all my hamstring or you know about
Ramsey's was bad in Jacksonville and that cross caught your
flight to La all of a sudden shaped it right up.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
There you go, here you go.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
So he could do something like that, but most likely
he have to play because you know your year won't
accrue to free toward free agency if you don't play,
and you don't get paid if you don't play and
you're not injured. And so I would think he's going
to play. But the bottom line is this. Do you
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think they'd be making a mistake by.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Moving on from Brandon a You No, I do not.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I think Brandon Ayuk is a very good player. But
I think when you consider the fact that it seems
to me that we'll see Rock Perdy be a quarterback
whose average annual value starts with five.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know it'll be upwards of might. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
At minimum, we're looking at a fifty five million dollar quarterback,
very much like in the NBA, where you can't overpay
your second star, right like, especially in a new second
Apron era. If you haven't paying your quarterback sixty million,
fifty five million dollars, sixty million dollars, you cannot overpay
a guy that is not going to be delivering at.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
The highest level in the NFL, in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
So when you look at Christian McCaffrey, all right, there's
you're not going to name three running backs better than
Christian McCaffrey. You're not going to name three tight ends
better than George Kittle. You're not going to name three
defensive ends better than Nick Bosa, but or Trent Williams
for that matter.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Same linebacker better than Fred Warner Boom, you nailed it.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
How many receivers do you think you go through before
you get to Brandon Ayuk More than three?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
More than five?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Right, more than more? And that's where he wants to
get paid. If they make the deal with Cleveland, I
think they'd be coming up. So you think a Mari's
better than I think when you consider what Kyle Shanahan's
offense is asking players to do, which is pretty much
just follow the rules and it will work.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That's why like Trey.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Lance, for example, couldn't work because it was having a
little bit of trouble processing where to go with the ball,
when to go with the ball right. That's why brock
Perdy does work in my opinion, in Kyle Shanahan's system,
because he's just literally painting by numbers, following the rules.
And the way you're able to do that is by
having your skilled position players be very very precise. When
you hear Chad o Cho Senko are these other guys
(06:42):
who talk about wide receivers in the way that they do,
they always have Amari Cooper and Devonte Adams as two
of the five best route runners in the NFL. I
think we saw last year, even with five different quarterbacks
throwing him the ball, that Amari Cooper was able a
to be productive and be He had a game where
we would like to seventy like be productive at a
(07:02):
very very high level. And when you put him in
that San Francisco offense and he takes over that outside
the numbers position.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
That Brandon I you had with all the weapons they got.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah, Amari Cooper and his route running, technical, his uh
you know, technical ability as a.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Wide receiver, I think would shine in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, I agree with you in that if they lose,
if they they if they lose Brandon I, you for
one of these trades where they don't get a top
flight player or a comparable player in return, and it's
just draft picks or Kendrick Bourne.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I do think it's a step backwards, but I still.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Believe they would be Super Bowl contenders because, let's face it,
they went to the Super Bowl before Brandon I.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
A year before Brandon I you got there.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, it's not like it was ten years ago and
a whole different team a year before IU got there.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
They had a worse quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right, he played well in San Francisco with healthy we
know he's not as good as brock perty You would
agree with.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
That, right, Yeah, Okay, they had a lesser running back.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Raheem Moster has become a pro Bowler, but he's not
as good as Christian McCaffrey. And none of their running backs,
they kind of did it by committee. Nobody was Matt
Brida and Jeff Wilson. I believe none of them had
a thousand yards.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And then you had a lesser receiving corps.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You had Deebo Samuel a younger version of course, but
in Manuel Sanders, the aforementioned Kendrick Bourne, like it wasn't
as good of a receiving group.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And yet all of that, all those.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Lessers, I said, and they still made it to the
super Bowl, so they would still be a super Bowl contender.
But I'm with you if they If I'm San Francisco Martin.
I don't know the inner workings of this, their discussions
with Auk. Maybe he's a lot more upset, maybe he's
you know, really causing trouble whatever, But I am why
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would I make a deal with any of these other
teams outside of Cleveland? Because I agree with you on
Amrio Cooper. He's got one year left on this deal.
I think he's making like twenty twenty or twenty two
million something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
If he plays well, I can resign him. Not at
the same number.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I Yuk would one because Cooper's older, he's thirty, and
not paying him as much, especially if we let him
go allows me to keep more of my guys.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
They're talking, would they have to lose debo?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Well maybe not if you have Amari Cooper or something,
or even if you let Amri walk, so it'll give
them more money to spend elsewhere. So I love the
Amari Cooper deal, not that I don't I don't think
he's better than Ayuk, but look that system in Cleveland
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is I mean, we know Kevin Stefanski is from the
cop if Shanahan Tree they run a similar offense. The
numbers between Auk and Cooper were almost identical last year,
and Cooper did it with five subpar or mediocre quarterbacks
throwing to him, the best of whom was probably Joe Flacco, right,
(10:18):
And we know Deshaun Watson isn't what he used to be,
at least wasn't last year.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And so I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
If they can get Cooper and they get draft picks
or a pick, they're gonna need those picks once they
signed perty to bring in other players. Remember you still
got Ricky Piersov. Well, I think he's a four to
four burner from you know, College Florida.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, and I think he could have a nice year.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I'm not saying he's gonna like the league on fire
and be an all Pro, but I think he can
have a good year, especially later in the season once
he gets used to everything. So I'm with you in that,
especially that Cleveland did. I'm really not even trying to
talk to these other teams because I don't know what
team can give them somebody as good as Cooper at
the receiving position, and.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Then plus two not only that, how much better is
the Like it depends on how you feel about Cleveland
going into this year, but they're in the AFC North,
Joe Burrow is back healthy, Lamar Jackson is the reigning
league MVP, and they have something to prove after the
way that they ended the season last year. Like that,
and the Pittsburgh Steelers have never finished under five hundred
and Tomlin's entirety of coaching, right, So you end up,
(11:25):
you know, we'll see what their quarterback situation ends up
playing out to be. But you're in a tough division there.
If you're the Cleveland Browns, that pick is gonna be.
I mean, it may not be New England Patriots good,
a team that is good, slated to win five games
a whole year, but four four four and a four
four and a half. Right, But you know a team
that is you know, it may not be that good.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But what's it? Could be the fifth pick or.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Maybe Album I'm sorry, the eleventh pick, Like I'll take
the eleventh pick with the Mario Cooper if I can
get a first round or for him, wow, Brandon the
first one.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
With I think they'll get it. Might be Coop in
a second round pick, but still that's not bad. I
don't think you get in the first and Cooper, I'd
be shocked at that. But yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Look I like you.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And let me say I ask you this as I
mentioned a few teams, New England, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Washington.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Washington is really not in it, but I throwed him
in there.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Cleveland to me is definitely the deal for San Francisco
to do. Yes from ayuk standpoint, where do you think
is the best place for him to go? Of those
four teams, probably Pittsburgh play opposite George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Right, So you have two legit threats on the outside.
Pickens is still under contract for the next two years
I believe at minimum maybe three, So you end up
that's a solid right there. Pittsburgh would have to I mean,
anywhere he goes, he's gonna have to sign an extension.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Right, That's kind of the way this whole thing is
going to work.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
So if you were to go to Pittsburgh sign an extension,
the only problem is with Pittsburgh you're still unsure of
the quarterback situation. But I think I would land on
going to the better organization that has more historical success
and they've had great success with wide receivers exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That would be my That'd be my move. Yeah, I'm
not mad at that. I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I do think that's a great spot for him. Yes,
the quarterback situations in flux.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It kind of is in Cleveland too. I mean, we
don't know what Watson is at this point.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I love if he's paid right, I'd love for him
to be, you know, ninety percent of what he used
to be in Houston.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That would be good. Washington, we don't know what Jaydeon
Daniels will be, but I like him.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You're across from Terry McLaurin, it's it's I think with
dan Quinn they're gonna be a better organization.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Now that's not bad my thing kind of Martin is
any place but New England. Like, I am not trying
to go to New England. If I'm him, I wouldn't either.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I mean, and I know, I guess you could say, well,
who know, Drake may could be better or as good
at least as Jaydon Daniels. And that's true, sure, But
I just I don't without knowing that that quarterback is
because if I'm Brandon Aiyuk, I'm like, yes, I want
to get paid, and that's forced first and foremost. Let's
keep it real it say's a job, but I also
(14:27):
want a quarterback that I believe I can go and
make put up numbers with.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
What's the point.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I mean, yeah, you're making money, but if I can't
shine and do my thing, I'm not gonna be happy.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, that's what I'm looking at as a young guy
like him.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, I don't see New England being a legit option,
especially I know it's a new regime there, sort of right,
it's kind of an extension of right, you know, it's
sort of a new regime as you saw Gerard Mao
mentioning something he learned from Bill Belichick today, that's not
to talk about players on other teams.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Right, So he's the ghost of Bill is still strong there.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
If I had to pick between the bad options, I
go to Washington because at least I know I'm friends
with the quarterback, so we should have a good rapport.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
No, I hear you there?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
All right, it's the Aka Boo, Chris and Martin Weiss.
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Of the way tirebind should be you mentioned the Steelers
quarterback battle I guess, for lack of a better we'll
call it between Justin Fields and Russell Wilson. And Wilson
has been kind of installed as the starter I guess
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since he got there, but a calf injury really has
limited him so far. They still have ways to go
in training camp, and today I think was the first
day he went through everything.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I didn't see reports yet on how well he did
or how much he struggled.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But who do you think should be the starter day
one or week one of this season Martin for the Steelers?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I personally think that it should be Justin Fields. Justin Fields,
to me, is an unproven quantity so far. Right, he's
only had one coaching staff kind of has opportunity to
mold him quote unquote into.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
The quarterback that they're looking for. Whereas when you look at.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Russell Wilson, he is a proven commodity for better or
for worse.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
At this point in his career, I mean something.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I think he has more than one hundred and fifty
more starts than Justin Fields.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Does.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Do you have a guy like Justin Fields who.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Up until the I mean during the draft and all
that draft process, he was rated as the second highest
quarterback in twenty twenty for the whole dang on time
until the very end, right, it was always and if
you go back and look at their high school rankings.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
All of that, it was Trevor Lawrence, Justin Field. Trevor Lawrence,
Justin Fields, And I think high school rank is don't
really matter.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
No, I'm just saying when you look at the way
that that class was great at the entire time, it
was you know, Justin Fields was the second quarterback in
the class until it got the draft times and then
all of a sudden, this guy Trey Lance, you had
like seventeen starts total, surpassed him. So to me, you
should kick the tires and see if Justin Fields has
the ability to be a franchise level, franchise starting quarterback.
(18:53):
I think you know what Russell Wilson is going to
give you, and if in fact, Justin Fields falls flat
on his face, you bring in Russ week six, Week seven,
week eight, and you tried to salvage what you got
going in the AFC North, I think that if you're
not investing at least heavy looks into Justin Fields as
a starter, you're.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Doing this the wrong way. It's you. The Pittsburgh Steelers, Well.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Look, I do think if I'm a fan of the Steelers,
if I'm a coach on the Steelers and executive and
owner and maybe even some of the players. I want
Justin Fields to win that spot. But I've noticed I
said win that spot sure like he could be if
(19:37):
he can play well, he could be your quarterback for
the next decade or more like you could have found
your franchise quarterback in Justin Fields. We know Russ is
not going to be certainly not for the next ten years.
I mean at best way, if he was great two years,
three years, maybe so I feel you on that, but
(20:02):
I'm not just handing it to him. And what concerns
me is that Russell Wilson has been out for basically
all of training camp. Like I said today, I think
it was the first day did everything in practice, and
I have not seen reports. I've seen reports that Justin
Fields has kind of been what we thought he was.
(20:24):
Dynamic at times, erratic at times, frustrating at times, not
as good at times, and then they're the wild moments
that you know he can give you that Russ at
this point camp, but I haven't seen like this was
his chance and he still may, you know, he may
get to start later in the season, midway through the season,
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or maybe he'll be great the rest of training camp.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
But if Justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Has had the opportunity to go out there and impress
his teammates and coaches with no competition, without Russ being
right in front of him or right behind him, he's
got to play with the first team.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And if he hasn't, like.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Open some eyes at this point to something that oh my,
oh we got something here. Oh he's better than we thought.
Oh he can do things we didn't think he could.
If he hasn't done any of that, and right now
people are saying Russ is still the guy, then that
worries me a bit because that means I think Jordan
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Or or Justin Fields blew an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I think right now they made the point to Russell
Wilson that he was going to be the starter when
he signed.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I think, like, is this.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Once he got injured, that kind of went out the window.
I feel you, and I saying I agree with you
on that, but I think once he got injured, it's like, hey,
if Justin had been so good, then it's like, dude,
you can't even be mad at us Russ, Like you
know what I'm saying, I think this was his opportunity,
and I haven't seen evidence in reporting that he's really
(22:07):
just totally taken advantage of it.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, I mean he hasn't quite yet, but I think
anytime you get first team reps and you're in a
QB battle, that's an opportunity to take advantage of it,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, absolutely opportunity. All right, Antonio Daniels around the corner.
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(22:54):
Antonio Daniels, what's up?
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (22:58):
What's up? Chris? Hey Martin? You ain't missing nothing, Christian,
you miss nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I know you being humble man. So but anyway, let's
get right to it. Canada goes down to France. So
now the final four is America versus Serbia in the Olympics,
and France and Germany. On the other side, winners will
play in the Olympic gold medal game. But Canada really,
(23:28):
probably the most disappointing player for them throughout these Olympics
has been Jamal Murray, afterged six points a game, shot
like twenty nine percent from the floor, and that's coming
off a postseason where he was not himself that he
is in negotiations with the Nuggets. If you were the Nuggets, hey, look,
(23:49):
we know he's a great player, but would this give
you any pause coming off the bad playoff? And also
we know he's been injured. He's had injury issue who.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Throughout his career?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
No, because the thing is, like, honestly, Chris, you can't
afford to allow Jamal Murray to walk damn.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Doing this deal.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
So I just say you got time, but you but
realistically you really don't have time. I mean, I just
you know, you know how guys are. There's an crazy
amount of ego that's attached to this. We are sitting
back right now and watching teams take care of their
respective free agents like it's nothing over paid for certain guys,
(24:32):
you know, And if Jamal Murray two years remove from
winning the NBA Championship, and Denver saying, you know what,
we're not sure if your words that we want to wait,
be careful what you wish for. That's all I'm saying.
But I will say this though, Chris, he doesn't look right.
He looks heavy. He looks heavy to me. Usually around
(24:53):
this time is when guys start to really get themselves
into training camp, preseason, irregular season shape. Right now, I
don't know if Jamal Murray's nursing the injury or he's
been nursing the injury throughout the course of this summer,
but he doesn't look as quick as as it was athletic,
and he looks a little heavy to me.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I'll say this, when I was watching that game, I
had the volume down.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
If you had told me that that was an NBA
All Star, our NBA All Star level player, I was like, really,
what watching Jamal Murray?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And I agree with you, Antonio, he's about to get that, Denver.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Bag, I want to ask you a lot about Steve
Kerr and his rotations, and more importantly, Draymond Green comment
on them, right, I mean Steve Kerr's rotations.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I guess you could scratch your head.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
At them a little bit, but Draymond Green went so
far to say that he thinks that it was trying
to cover for something. What do you make of this
kind of summer criticism of the head coach, like of
your day.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Job with Draymond Green. You know he's on the side
job on the podcast doing it.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
I mean, I've heard a lot of criticism of Steve
Kerr to the point where my co host last week
on our radio show, I said, you're talking about Team
USA as if they're coming off a loss. And then
here's the thing. We only care about rotations and who's
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not playing and all these other kind of things. If
Team USA doesn't win the Gold, If Tom USA wins
the Gold, no one's gonna look back and say they
want to go man, but Jason Tatum should have played more,
or they want the gold but Joel and b should
have had more minutes. No, the whole ning is winning
the Gold. And right now Team USA, especially everybody's last
(26:37):
year games, they're running through everybody and we can talk
about the adjustments and the adjustments. To me, I'm gonna
be honest, they have been good adjustments because the result
is in the win. When you only beat South Sudan
by one point, and you say, man, you know what,
Joelle and B probably isn't a good matchup for this
team because they run and they get up and down
the floor. Then you blow out South Sudan. People are
(26:59):
more because about joellenb not playing as opposed to Team
USA blowing out South Sudan the second time they played.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I mean, but Antonio, if I may, it's one thing
hurting for your co host and for me, for Christmas Ard,
for you to comment on these, it's another thing entirely
to me, for Maria, for Draymond Green, who's gonna have
to deal with Steve Kirk for about sixty games, might
be suspended for twenty of them.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
But let's say he plays all these eighty two games
next year.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
But the thing is that that Varyors Championship window was closed.
Draymond Green is Raymond Green. We already know what's coming.
Like now that Klay Thompson's going, it's almost like the
floodgates have opened. You will have a hard time thinking
of a dynasty that came crumbling down quietly that it
doesn't happen. You know, when dynasties, when they come down
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and they crumble, they crumble and this is a part
of all that to me, Like, you think of all
that Draymond Green has been doing, Golden State, all that
him and Steve kerb been do do you really think
that Draymond Green is going to go on this podcast
and hold it son, especially now that they're no longer
in the quote unquote championship conversation. I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
And my thing, Antonio, I'd be willing to bet Draymond
has said much worse to Steve Kerk to his face.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Or in the long question about it.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
So.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Draymond also said that this year's Olympic team would I
mean he he kind of was like, would would whip
the ninety two Olympic team?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
The dream team?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
He said?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
They beat them five out of seven times and.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
By double roughly double figures every time, ten or more points.
Where do you how do you compare this team? We
know we want to they gotta wing goal, but to
that ninety two two you can't.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
And I, out of all of my years doing funk
radio and TV, this is one conversation I've never been
being on because there's no way of knowing. There's literally
no way of knowing, So it basically just becomes a
topic of conversation and debate for what for what, Like
we're comparing the contrasting generations. We can look at that
(29:12):
ninety two team I was watching again the Dream Team
Special and the lack of competition that they had at
that particular time, where their opponents were sitting on the
bench and taking pictures of them during the game. You
fast forward, you fast forward now thirty two years later,
these dudes that they're playing against don't fair Team USA.
(29:34):
They don't fair Team USA no more. Those days are over.
Now team in the USA is the biggest, the strongest,
the fastest, the most athletic, and the most talented. They're
just not nearly as feared as they were way back
in ninety two.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Now you talk about the biggest, strongest, fast as well.
Common basketball fans will say the best player in the
world is up next on the other side for a
Team USA. When Nicole Yokisa Serbia, they creaked fast Australia
earlier today, do you does not be the first time
we've seen these two national teams play.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
We saw them in the exhibitions earlier.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
But what do you expect to see out of Team
USA against Nicola jokicch and the Serbs.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I would be very surprised again if it's what they
close game, because Nikola Jokics is Nicola Jokic buck done.
Macdona visions back. But that's about where it stops.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yuh huh.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
That's the thing like USA talent level is is it's crazy.
So when Nikola Jokic goes out the game, you're coming
in in no disrespect to whoever it is. They're coming
in with somebody that's not Anthony Davis, not Damn out
of Bayo, not Jason Tatum, not Anthony Edwards. Like the
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USA team comes at you in waves, they come at
your waves. I feel like the team the two teams
that I felt like could really push Team USA where
they're not hitting the floor and just kind of it's
a matter of time before they separate or one Germany
and to Canada and Canada eliminated. So right now I
feel like it's on Germany. I don't think any other
(31:04):
team France. You watch France play today, France, I don't
think France can. I don't think Serbia can test to
really challenge Team USA.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
A couple of days ago there was some video of
Chet home Gren, you know, just playing open gym, and
a lot of people were amazed by it. For lack
of a better word, do you think, o Casey like
I think we know last year they became the youngest
team ever to win a playoff series. I still feel,
Antonio like they are one year away from really being
(31:37):
able to get to the finals and win it all.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
And I'm really am basing that on their youth. I mean,
they look good.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I'm not saying to know to me, do you agree
that next year they still will be too young to
win a championship or do you think next year they'll
actually have a great shot?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Okay, can I ask you a question before I answer
that question.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
They're starting five men.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
The Hartenstein.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
That's my problem from New York. That's my problem though
this has been my and I have talked about this
almost all summer. What made OKAC as good as they
were last year was they played four smalls and set
home Grind at the five. Now this is changing their
entire identity. Thing like Da Hartenstein at the five, I
feel like, but in Chet Homegrin at the four kind
(32:26):
of removes the advantage that Chet Homegren half from playing
at the five, right, don't I don't think this? Oh Like,
when we do our rankings, I won't pick Okac to
come in first because of Iday. Hartenstein is the heck
of a player. He played great in New York under
that system. Excellent pass or excellent shot around the restricted area.
(32:47):
But going into Okac, I feel like if they're starting
him at the five and set Homegren at the four,
that you're changing the identity because now what you're doing
is they're bringing Alice Cruso off the bench. And to me,
I feel like ched Homegrun at the five and j
Dubb and Alex Caruso and say Gio just Alexander and
(33:08):
lou Dort that five. To me, I'm with you. I
will rock with that. But once you take ted Homegron
from the five and you put him at the four,
and now you surround him with three smalls and him
being one of the perimeter guys, I'm just not rocking
with that combination.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I agree with you, and I think that's something they
really should look at because Hartenstein, you know, he's been
coming off the bench for most of his career. He
and you just may need him in certain matchups. Obviously
gonna play every game. You know what I'm saying, Like
I feel letting that because that's Austin do to a
large degree.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
But you know what, Chris, who was the winner of
the last time you've seen a guy making twenty nine
million dollars? Fine in three agents?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
That's fair. Come off the bench, that's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But they gotta be careful.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Like you said, you don't want to that I did.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
You can. You can disrupt chemistry and a heartbeat right right?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
All right, that's our man, Antonio Daniel's great stuff.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Brother, have a good week, for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I appreciate you, guys, Yes, sir, yeh Later.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
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Speaker 3 (34:34):
All right, Chris, let's go ahead and get to it.
Let's go to Jola in Dallas. Who you trash?
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Hey? Hey, what's going on? Hey? First, I want to say,
what's up my wife?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
What up?
Speaker 5 (34:43):
David? Hey, they got to one of the Milwaukee talkies.
That's for your phone talking. Good. Now we can hear
you more. Chris, it's great.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Oh Man, rolling a roll.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I'm trusting the Dallas Cowboys. Hey man, I'm a up
a driver. I went out there to that off search
to see the practice. Hey, they need to play Dak
Prescott immediately. Brock Pergy's gonna get the same thing as Dak.
Why didn't not paying this guy went out there, there's
no weapons.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
They need to pay CD.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Lamb. Hey, I'm telling you right now, if they didn't
have Dak Prescott, the Cowboys will go five and twelve
just because he's there, They're gonna go, you know, eight
and nine. If they add CD, they'll go nine to eight.
But damn, they need to get some weapons out there.
Drop pastes. Hey, digus back the defense looking good. But hey,
they need to pay DAK and pay CD and get
(35:33):
it rolling, or they need to trade CD either San
Francisco and get I You please.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Well, then they gotta pay AU.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Right, But his point is, please, the cupboard is bear
in Dallas. All right, Let's see if you could do better.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
This time.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Fernando in Vegas.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Let me have it, Michigan, Martin wise balls and his
coaching staff and his cheeters take away the title.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
I'll hope to go zero and twelve.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
He suck.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Martin. Have a great night, Chris.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Now, is that the one that gets you before?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
The same guy.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Save guys, that's all right. The ring still shines. Fernando,
eric and Illinois. Who you trashing?
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Hey, guys, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
What's up? Man?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Man?
Speaker 7 (36:23):
I just Lebron James Man.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
He is the most.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
Entitled person on the face of the earth. I'll tell
you what. I used to like Lebron until he has that.
When he went to South Beach, he held us hostage
for an ESPN special just.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
To let us know he was going to Miami.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
No Loder, NBA, NFL player or anyone else hasver done that.
Now his son is the second round draft. He's been
titled more than anyone I've ever been there. To call
him the Los Angeles team, I mean, it's crazy. I
tell you what, man, he's a good player. I respect
everything he's done on the course, But come on, man,
let somebody else carry up flax. So you have the
(37:05):
Hay Olympics. Lebron's got everything.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I am well, they asked him to do it. I
don't remember. I don't think he's strong armed into covering it.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
But to point though, I don't know if you saw this, Chris,
because but I forget the name of the swimmer, the
dick swimmer at this Olympics walked into the basketball stadium
and Lebron the woman.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
No no, no, no no, there's a French guy winning everything. Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Lebron Will goes and walks down the bench and thinks
they're talking, thinks they're all clapping for him, and he
puts the crown on his head as everybody is clapping
for the French swimmer.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
It was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
See that was that today?
Speaker 3 (37:43):
It was today? Yeah, let's squeeze it. Kevin, Kevin at
Culver City, who are you trash? Let's get it.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
That is good.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
I gotta trust, I gotta trust talk commentators. Look this
boxer and Algeria's she's a woman. It's Algerian boxers a woman.
She is clearly uh natural woman. And it's reckless for
reporters like Jesse Waters to say this is a man.
And listen, she's clearly a woman. Brittany Grinder has elevated
(38:11):
levels of Susaco and it happens in sports. She's a
great athlete. Sometimes athletes are bigger than other athletes. Big
Riley Gaines wants to be you know, and broadcasting and
say he's clearly a man. It's irresponsible. This isn't Leah Thomas.
What was it?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
All right?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
We got you, We got you, all right? A couple
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Daniels at the bottom of the hour. And then it
is of course a trash talking Tuesday. So you will
be able to call in in about thirty five minutes
and trash.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Anyone or anything in the world of sports.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You'll have thirty to forty seconds to do so, so
get your takes ready and come correct.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Martin Weiss you trashing anybody.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I'm trashing Brian Finley for the way that he was
running from fear for this bat.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean you should have seen it.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I mean, he's a recently married manage gott to protect
his household.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
You know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's a bat, Martin. I mean look, I mean you
said a bird. It's different running from a little bird
and then a bat.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, Martin, you said a bird. That's that's totally different.
I thought it was a bird.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I mean, I'm sorry I couldn't completely identify you.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'd like to see how you handled that bat, dacause
I got sources in that studio that told me, as
Elijah was bravely running that bat out of the building,
you were cowering in the left corner in the embryo position.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
No what I was trying to do. That's what my
source said. Well, your source, unfortunately, Chris. The rule of
journalism should have two sources to confirm all stories.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I got three, all three of them.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Lionet, your pal I was over here, explained to you
how international basketball hasn't caught up. But you got to riber, Chris,
I'm a boy that's actually legitimately from South Louisiana. I
had bats in the house before, birds all over the place.
You know what we do we killed them?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Did you ever kill a bat?
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You by yourself individually?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes, I really I don't know if I believe you.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I have to call source Greg Wiss to see if
he'll corroperate somebody.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Down there in Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
See what they say.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
But nah, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
The big news in the NFL, Martin, is that not
we know Brandon Ayuka has been holding in, meaning he'll
go to practice but don't participate.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And now the reports are that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
He could very likely be traded because the forty nine
ers have agreed.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
To terms on trades with Cleveland and New England.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
The Cleveland deal would be Amari Cooper and a draft
pick or draft picks, maybe a little fluff thrown in
from either even both sides perhaps.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
And then New England would be Kendrick Bourne and some picks.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And now the Steelers, who were rumored to be involved
interested and then they got out. Now where it is
they're back in and Washington, which had been in because
Brandon Aiyuk and Jayden Daniels were teammates at Arizona State
several years ago at this point, about five years ago.
(03:48):
I guess their friends and they hang and they love
to play together again. So they were in it, but
now the reports that they've dropped out. But here's what
I want to throw at you. Would the forty nine
ers be making a mistake Martin if they traded Brandon
a you because remember he has no leverage. He can
(04:10):
hold in and all that, but at the end of
the day, if he doesn't play game, now, I guess
he could. You know, I hate to even put this,
but faking injury. Sure, you know one of those injuries
you can't tell all my hamstring or you know about
Ramsey's was bad in Jacksonville and that cross caught your
flight to La all of a sudden shaped it right up.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
There you go, here you go.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
So he could do something like that, but most likely
he have to play because you know your year won't
accrue to free toward free agency if you don't play,
and you don't get paid if you don't play and
you're not injured. And so I would think he's going
to play. But the bottom line is this. Do you
(04:50):
think they'd be making a mistake by.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Moving on from Brandon a You No, I do not.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I think Brandon Ayuk is a very good player. But
I think when you consider the fact that it seems
to me that we'll see Rock Perdy be a quarterback
whose average annual value starts with five.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know it'll be upwards of might. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
At minimum, we're looking at a fifty five million dollar quarterback,
very much like in the NBA, where you can't overpay
your second star, right like, especially in a new second
Apron era. If you haven't paying your quarterback sixty million,
fifty five million dollars, sixty million dollars, you cannot overpay
a guy that is not going to be delivering at.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
The highest level in the NFL, in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
So when you look at Christian McCaffrey, all right, there's
you're not going to name three running backs better than
Christian McCaffrey. You're not going to name three tight ends
better than George Kittle. You're not going to name three
defensive ends better than Nick Bosa, but or Trent Williams
for that matter.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Same linebacker better than Fred Warner Boom, you nailed it.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
How many receivers do you think you go through before
you get to Brandon Ayuk More than three?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
More than five?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Right, more than more? And that's where he wants to
get paid. If they make the deal with Cleveland, I
think they'd be coming up. So you think a Mari's
better than I think when you consider what Kyle Shanahan's
offense is asking players to do, which is pretty much
just follow the rules and it will work.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That's why like Trey.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Lance, for example, couldn't work because it was having a
little bit of trouble processing where to go with the ball,
when to go with the ball right. That's why brock
Perdy does work in my opinion, in Kyle Shanahan's system,
because he's just literally painting by numbers, following the rules.
And the way you're able to do that is by
having your skilled position players be very very precise. When
you hear Chad o Cho Senko are these other guys
(06:42):
who talk about wide receivers in the way that they do,
they always have Amari Cooper and Devonte Adams as two
of the five best route runners in the NFL. I
think we saw last year, even with five different quarterbacks
throwing him the ball, that Amari Cooper was able a
to be productive and be He had a game where
we would like to seventy like be productive at a
(07:02):
very very high level. And when you put him in
that San Francisco offense and he takes over that outside
the numbers position.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
That Brandon I you had with all the weapons they got.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah, Amari Cooper and his route running, technical, his uh
you know, technical ability as a.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Wide receiver, I think would shine in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, I agree with you in that if they lose,
if they they if they lose Brandon I, you for
one of these trades where they don't get a top
flight player or a comparable player in return, and it's
just draft picks or Kendrick Bourne.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I do think it's a step backwards, but I still.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Believe they would be Super Bowl contenders because, let's face it,
they went to the Super Bowl before Brandon I.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
A year before Brandon I you got there.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, it's not like it was ten years ago and
a whole different team a year before IU got there.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
They had a worse quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right, he played well in San Francisco with healthy we
know he's not as good as brock perty You would
agree with.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
That, right, Yeah, Okay, they had a lesser running back.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Raheem Moster has become a pro Bowler, but he's not
as good as Christian McCaffrey. And none of their running backs,
they kind of did it by committee. Nobody was Matt
Brida and Jeff Wilson. I believe none of them had
a thousand yards.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And then you had a lesser receiving corps.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You had Deebo Samuel a younger version of course, but
in Manuel Sanders, the aforementioned Kendrick Bourne, like it wasn't
as good of a receiving group.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And yet all of that, all those.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Lessers, I said, and they still made it to the
super Bowl, so they would still be a super Bowl contender.
But I'm with you if they If I'm San Francisco Martin.
I don't know the inner workings of this, their discussions
with Auk. Maybe he's a lot more upset, maybe he's
you know, really causing trouble whatever, But I am why
(09:06):
would I make a deal with any of these other
teams outside of Cleveland? Because I agree with you on
Amrio Cooper. He's got one year left on this deal.
I think he's making like twenty twenty or twenty two
million something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
If he plays well, I can resign him. Not at
the same number.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I Yuk would one because Cooper's older, he's thirty, and
not paying him as much, especially if we let him
go allows me to keep more of my guys.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
They're talking, would they have to lose debo?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Well maybe not if you have Amari Cooper or something,
or even if you let Amri walk, so it'll give
them more money to spend elsewhere. So I love the
Amari Cooper deal, not that I don't I don't think
he's better than Ayuk, but look that system in Cleveland
(09:56):
is I mean, we know Kevin Stefanski is from the
cop if Shanahan Tree they run a similar offense. The
numbers between Auk and Cooper were almost identical last year,
and Cooper did it with five subpar or mediocre quarterbacks
throwing to him, the best of whom was probably Joe Flacco, right,
(10:18):
And we know Deshaun Watson isn't what he used to be,
at least wasn't last year.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And so I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
If they can get Cooper and they get draft picks
or a pick, they're gonna need those picks once they
signed perty to bring in other players. Remember you still
got Ricky Piersov. Well, I think he's a four to
four burner from you know, College Florida.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, and I think he could have a nice year.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I'm not saying he's gonna like the league on fire
and be an all Pro, but I think he can
have a good year, especially later in the season once
he gets used to everything. So I'm with you in that,
especially that Cleveland did. I'm really not even trying to
talk to these other teams because I don't know what
team can give them somebody as good as Cooper at
the receiving position, and.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Then plus two not only that, how much better is
the Like it depends on how you feel about Cleveland
going into this year, but they're in the AFC North,
Joe Burrow is back healthy, Lamar Jackson is the reigning
league MVP, and they have something to prove after the
way that they ended the season last year. Like that,
and the Pittsburgh Steelers have never finished under five hundred
and Tomlin's entirety of coaching, right, So you end up,
(11:25):
you know, we'll see what their quarterback situation ends up
playing out to be. But you're in a tough division there.
If you're the Cleveland Browns, that pick is gonna be.
I mean, it may not be New England Patriots good,
a team that is good, slated to win five games
a whole year, but four four four and a four
four and a half. Right, But you know a team
that is you know, it may not be that good.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But what's it? Could be the fifth pick or.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Maybe Album I'm sorry, the eleventh pick, Like I'll take
the eleventh pick with the Mario Cooper if I can
get a first round or for him, wow, Brandon the
first one.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
With I think they'll get it. Might be Coop in
a second round pick, but still that's not bad. I
don't think you get in the first and Cooper, I'd
be shocked at that. But yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Look I like you.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And let me say I ask you this as I
mentioned a few teams, New England, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Washington.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Washington is really not in it, but I throwed him
in there.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Cleveland to me is definitely the deal for San Francisco
to do. Yes from ayuk standpoint, where do you think
is the best place for him to go? Of those
four teams, probably Pittsburgh play opposite George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Right, So you have two legit threats on the outside.
Pickens is still under contract for the next two years
I believe at minimum maybe three, So you end up
that's a solid right there. Pittsburgh would have to I mean,
anywhere he goes, he's gonna have to sign an extension.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Right, That's kind of the way this whole thing is
going to work.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
So if you were to go to Pittsburgh sign an extension,
the only problem is with Pittsburgh you're still unsure of
the quarterback situation. But I think I would land on
going to the better organization that has more historical success
and they've had great success with wide receivers exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That would be my That'd be my move. Yeah, I'm
not mad at that. I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I do think that's a great spot for him. Yes,
the quarterback situations in flux.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It kind of is in Cleveland too. I mean, we
don't know what Watson is at this point.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I love if he's paid right, I'd love for him
to be, you know, ninety percent of what he used
to be in Houston.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That would be good. Washington, we don't know what Jaydeon
Daniels will be, but I like him.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You're across from Terry McLaurin, it's it's I think with
dan Quinn they're gonna be a better organization.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Now that's not bad my thing kind of Martin is
any place but New England. Like, I am not trying
to go to New England. If I'm him, I wouldn't either.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I mean, and I know, I guess you could say, well,
who know, Drake may could be better or as good
at least as Jaydon Daniels. And that's true, sure, But
I just I don't without knowing that that quarterback is
because if I'm Brandon Aiyuk, I'm like, yes, I want
to get paid, and that's forced first and foremost. Let's
keep it real it say's a job, but I also
(14:27):
want a quarterback that I believe I can go and
make put up numbers with.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
What's the point.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I mean, yeah, you're making money, but if I can't
shine and do my thing, I'm not gonna be happy.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, that's what I'm looking at as a young guy
like him.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, I don't see New England being a legit option,
especially I know it's a new regime there, sort of right,
it's kind of an extension of right, you know, it's
sort of a new regime as you saw Gerard Mao
mentioning something he learned from Bill Belichick today, that's not
to talk about players on other teams.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Right, So he's the ghost of Bill is still strong there.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
If I had to pick between the bad options, I
go to Washington because at least I know I'm friends
with the quarterback, so we should have a good rapport.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
No, I hear you there?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
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Of the way tirebind should be you mentioned the Steelers
quarterback battle I guess, for lack of a better we'll
call it between Justin Fields and Russell Wilson. And Wilson
has been kind of installed as the starter I guess
(17:10):
since he got there, but a calf injury really has
limited him so far. They still have ways to go
in training camp, and today I think was the first
day he went through everything.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I didn't see reports yet on how well he did
or how much he struggled.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But who do you think should be the starter day
one or week one of this season Martin for the Steelers?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I personally think that it should be Justin Fields. Justin Fields,
to me, is an unproven quantity so far. Right, he's
only had one coaching staff kind of has opportunity to
mold him quote unquote into.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
The quarterback that they're looking for. Whereas when you look at.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Russell Wilson, he is a proven commodity for better or
for worse.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
At this point in his career, I mean something.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I think he has more than one hundred and fifty
more starts than Justin Fields.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Does.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Do you have a guy like Justin Fields who.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Up until the I mean during the draft and all
that draft process, he was rated as the second highest
quarterback in twenty twenty for the whole dang on time
until the very end, right, it was always and if
you go back and look at their high school rankings.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
All of that, it was Trevor Lawrence, Justin Field. Trevor Lawrence,
Justin Fields, And I think high school rank is don't
really matter.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
No, I'm just saying when you look at the way
that that class was great at the entire time, it
was you know, Justin Fields was the second quarterback in
the class until it got the draft times and then
all of a sudden, this guy Trey Lance, you had
like seventeen starts total, surpassed him. So to me, you
should kick the tires and see if Justin Fields has
the ability to be a franchise level, franchise starting quarterback.
(18:53):
I think you know what Russell Wilson is going to
give you, and if in fact, Justin Fields falls flat
on his face, you bring in Russ week six, Week seven,
week eight, and you tried to salvage what you got
going in the AFC North, I think that if you're
not investing at least heavy looks into Justin Fields as
a starter, you're.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Doing this the wrong way. It's you. The Pittsburgh Steelers, Well.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Look, I do think if I'm a fan of the Steelers,
if I'm a coach on the Steelers and executive and
owner and maybe even some of the players. I want
Justin Fields to win that spot. But I've noticed I
said win that spot sure like he could be if
(19:37):
he can play well, he could be your quarterback for
the next decade or more like you could have found
your franchise quarterback in Justin Fields. We know Russ is
not going to be certainly not for the next ten years.
I mean at best way, if he was great two years,
three years, maybe so I feel you on that, but
(20:02):
I'm not just handing it to him. And what concerns
me is that Russell Wilson has been out for basically
all of training camp. Like I said today, I think
it was the first day did everything in practice, and
I have not seen reports. I've seen reports that Justin
Fields has kind of been what we thought he was.
(20:24):
Dynamic at times, erratic at times, frustrating at times, not
as good at times, and then they're the wild moments
that you know he can give you that Russ at
this point camp, but I haven't seen like this was
his chance and he still may, you know, he may
get to start later in the season, midway through the season,
(20:45):
or maybe he'll be great the rest of training camp.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
But if Justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Has had the opportunity to go out there and impress
his teammates and coaches with no competition, without Russ being
right in front of him or right behind him, he's
got to play with the first team.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And if he hasn't, like.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Open some eyes at this point to something that oh my,
oh we got something here. Oh he's better than we thought.
Oh he can do things we didn't think he could.
If he hasn't done any of that, and right now
people are saying Russ is still the guy, then that
worries me a bit because that means I think Jordan
(21:30):
Or or Justin Fields blew an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I think right now they made the point to Russell
Wilson that he was going to be the starter when
he signed.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I think, like, is this.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Once he got injured, that kind of went out the window.
I feel you, and I saying I agree with you
on that, but I think once he got injured, it's like, hey,
if Justin had been so good, then it's like, dude,
you can't even be mad at us Russ, Like you
know what I'm saying, I think this was his opportunity,
and I haven't seen evidence in reporting that he's really
(22:07):
just totally taken advantage of it.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, I mean he hasn't quite yet, but I think
anytime you get first team reps and you're in a
QB battle, that's an opportunity to take advantage of it,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, absolutely opportunity. All right, Antonio Daniels around the corner.
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Speaker 1 (22:33):
All right, thank you, bfinn. We're live from thetiereg dot
com studios. Our next guest is an NBA champion. Get
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NBA analysts. And I'm sure I'm missing something else. Our man,
(22:54):
Antonio Daniels, what's up?
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (22:58):
What's up? Chris? Hey Martin? You ain't missing nothing, Christian,
you miss nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I know you being humble man. So but anyway, let's
get right to it. Canada goes down to France. So
now the final four is America versus Serbia in the Olympics,
and France and Germany. On the other side, winners will
play in the Olympic gold medal game. But Canada really,
(23:28):
probably the most disappointing player for them throughout these Olympics
has been Jamal Murray, afterged six points a game, shot
like twenty nine percent from the floor, and that's coming
off a postseason where he was not himself that he
is in negotiations with the Nuggets. If you were the Nuggets, hey, look,
(23:49):
we know he's a great player, but would this give
you any pause coming off the bad playoff? And also
we know he's been injured. He's had injury issue who.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Throughout his career?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
No, because the thing is, like, honestly, Chris, you can't
afford to allow Jamal Murray to walk damn.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Doing this deal.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
So I just say you got time, but you but
realistically you really don't have time. I mean, I just
you know, you know how guys are. There's an crazy
amount of ego that's attached to this. We are sitting
back right now and watching teams take care of their
respective free agents like it's nothing over paid for certain guys,
(24:32):
you know, And if Jamal Murray two years remove from
winning the NBA Championship, and Denver saying, you know what,
we're not sure if your words that we want to wait,
be careful what you wish for. That's all I'm saying.
But I will say this though, Chris, he doesn't look right.
He looks heavy. He looks heavy to me. Usually around
(24:53):
this time is when guys start to really get themselves
into training camp, preseason, irregular season shape. Right now, I
don't know if Jamal Murray's nursing the injury or he's
been nursing the injury throughout the course of this summer,
but he doesn't look as quick as as it was athletic,
and he looks a little heavy to me.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I'll say this, when I was watching that game, I
had the volume down.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
If you had told me that that was an NBA
All Star, our NBA All Star level player, I was like, really,
what watching Jamal Murray?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And I agree with you, Antonio, he's about to get that, Denver.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Bag, I want to ask you a lot about Steve
Kerr and his rotations, and more importantly, Draymond Green comment
on them, right, I mean Steve Kerr's rotations.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I guess you could scratch your head.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
At them a little bit, but Draymond Green went so
far to say that he thinks that it was trying
to cover for something. What do you make of this
kind of summer criticism of the head coach, like of
your day.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Job with Draymond Green. You know he's on the side
job on the podcast doing it.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
I mean, I've heard a lot of criticism of Steve
Kerr to the point where my co host last week
on our radio show, I said, you're talking about Team
USA as if they're coming off a loss. And then
here's the thing. We only care about rotations and who's
(26:16):
not playing and all these other kind of things. If
Team USA doesn't win the Gold, If Tom USA wins
the Gold, no one's gonna look back and say they
want to go man, but Jason Tatum should have played more,
or they want the gold but Joel and b should
have had more minutes. No, the whole ning is winning
the Gold. And right now Team USA, especially everybody's last
(26:37):
year games, they're running through everybody and we can talk
about the adjustments and the adjustments. To me, I'm gonna
be honest, they have been good adjustments because the result
is in the win. When you only beat South Sudan
by one point, and you say, man, you know what,
Joelle and B probably isn't a good matchup for this
team because they run and they get up and down
the floor. Then you blow out South Sudan. People are
(26:59):
more because about joellenb not playing as opposed to Team
USA blowing out South Sudan the second time they played.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I mean, but Antonio, if I may, it's one thing
hurting for your co host and for me, for Christmas Ard,
for you to comment on these, it's another thing entirely
to me, for Maria, for Draymond Green, who's gonna have
to deal with Steve Kirk for about sixty games, might
be suspended for twenty of them.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
But let's say he plays all these eighty two games
next year.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
But the thing is that that Varyors Championship window was closed.
Draymond Green is Raymond Green. We already know what's coming.
Like now that Klay Thompson's going, it's almost like the
floodgates have opened. You will have a hard time thinking
of a dynasty that came crumbling down quietly that it
doesn't happen. You know, when dynasties, when they come down
(27:48):
and they crumble, they crumble and this is a part
of all that to me, Like, you think of all
that Draymond Green has been doing, Golden State, all that
him and Steve kerb been do do you really think
that Draymond Green is going to go on this podcast
and hold it son, especially now that they're no longer
in the quote unquote championship conversation. I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
And my thing, Antonio, I'd be willing to bet Draymond
has said much worse to Steve Kerk to his face.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Or in the long question about it.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
So.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Draymond also said that this year's Olympic team would I
mean he he kind of was like, would would whip
the ninety two Olympic team?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
The dream team?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
He said?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
They beat them five out of seven times and.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
By double roughly double figures every time, ten or more points.
Where do you how do you compare this team? We
know we want to they gotta wing goal, but to
that ninety two two you can't.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
And I, out of all of my years doing funk
radio and TV, this is one conversation I've never been
being on because there's no way of knowing. There's literally
no way of knowing, So it basically just becomes a
topic of conversation and debate for what for what, Like
we're comparing the contrasting generations. We can look at that
(29:12):
ninety two team I was watching again the Dream Team
Special and the lack of competition that they had at
that particular time, where their opponents were sitting on the
bench and taking pictures of them during the game. You
fast forward, you fast forward now thirty two years later,
these dudes that they're playing against don't fair Team USA.
(29:34):
They don't fair Team USA no more. Those days are over.
Now team in the USA is the biggest, the strongest,
the fastest, the most athletic, and the most talented. They're
just not nearly as feared as they were way back
in ninety two.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Now you talk about the biggest, strongest, fast as well.
Common basketball fans will say the best player in the
world is up next on the other side for a
Team USA. When Nicole Yokisa Serbia, they creaked fast Australia
earlier today, do you does not be the first time
we've seen these two national teams play.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
We saw them in the exhibitions earlier.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
But what do you expect to see out of Team
USA against Nicola jokicch and the Serbs.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I would be very surprised again if it's what they
close game, because Nikola Jokics is Nicola Jokic buck done.
Macdona visions back. But that's about where it stops.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yuh huh.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
That's the thing like USA talent level is is it's crazy.
So when Nikola Jokic goes out the game, you're coming
in in no disrespect to whoever it is. They're coming
in with somebody that's not Anthony Davis, not Damn out
of Bayo, not Jason Tatum, not Anthony Edwards. Like the
(30:44):
USA team comes at you in waves, they come at
your waves. I feel like the team the two teams
that I felt like could really push Team USA where
they're not hitting the floor and just kind of it's
a matter of time before they separate or one Germany
and to Canada and Canada eliminated. So right now I
feel like it's on Germany. I don't think any other
(31:04):
team France. You watch France play today, France, I don't
think France can. I don't think Serbia can test to
really challenge Team USA.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
A couple of days ago there was some video of
Chet home Gren, you know, just playing open gym, and
a lot of people were amazed by it. For lack
of a better word, do you think, o Casey like
I think we know last year they became the youngest
team ever to win a playoff series. I still feel,
Antonio like they are one year away from really being
(31:37):
able to get to the finals and win it all.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
And I'm really am basing that on their youth. I mean,
they look good.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I'm not saying to know to me, do you agree
that next year they still will be too young to
win a championship or do you think next year they'll
actually have a great shot?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Okay, can I ask you a question before I answer
that question.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
They're starting five men.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
The Hartenstein.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
That's my problem from New York. That's my problem though
this has been my and I have talked about this
almost all summer. What made OKAC as good as they
were last year was they played four smalls and set
home Grind at the five. Now this is changing their
entire identity. Thing like Da Hartenstein at the five, I
feel like, but in Chet Homegrin at the four kind
(32:26):
of removes the advantage that Chet Homegren half from playing
at the five, right, don't I don't think this? Oh Like,
when we do our rankings, I won't pick Okac to
come in first because of Iday. Hartenstein is the heck
of a player. He played great in New York under
that system. Excellent pass or excellent shot around the restricted area.
(32:47):
But going into Okac, I feel like if they're starting
him at the five and set Homegren at the four,
that you're changing the identity because now what you're doing
is they're bringing Alice Cruso off the bench. And to me,
I feel like ched Homegrun at the five and j
Dubb and Alex Caruso and say Gio just Alexander and
(33:08):
lou Dort that five. To me, I'm with you. I
will rock with that. But once you take ted Homegron
from the five and you put him at the four,
and now you surround him with three smalls and him
being one of the perimeter guys, I'm just not rocking
with that combination.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I agree with you, and I think that's something they
really should look at because Hartenstein, you know, he's been
coming off the bench for most of his career. He
and you just may need him in certain matchups. Obviously
gonna play every game. You know what I'm saying, Like
I feel letting that because that's Austin do to a
large degree.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
But you know what, Chris, who was the winner of
the last time you've seen a guy making twenty nine
million dollars? Fine in three agents?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
That's fair. Come off the bench, that's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But they gotta be careful.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Like you said, you don't want to that I did.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
You can. You can disrupt chemistry and a heartbeat right right?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
All right, that's our man, Antonio Daniel's great stuff.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Brother, have a good week, for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I appreciate you, guys, Yes, sir, yeh Later.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
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Speaker 3 (34:34):
All right, Chris, let's go ahead and get to it.
Let's go to Jola in Dallas. Who you trash?
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Hey? Hey, what's going on? Hey? First, I want to say,
what's up my wife?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
What up?
Speaker 5 (34:43):
David? Hey, they got to one of the Milwaukee talkies.
That's for your phone talking. Good. Now we can hear
you more. Chris, it's great.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Oh Man, rolling a roll.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I'm trusting the Dallas Cowboys. Hey man, I'm a up
a driver. I went out there to that off search
to see the practice. Hey, they need to play Dak
Prescott immediately. Brock Pergy's gonna get the same thing as Dak.
Why didn't not paying this guy went out there, there's
no weapons.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
They need to pay CD.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Lamb. Hey, I'm telling you right now, if they didn't
have Dak Prescott, the Cowboys will go five and twelve
just because he's there, They're gonna go, you know, eight
and nine. If they add CD, they'll go nine to eight.
But damn, they need to get some weapons out there.
Drop pastes. Hey, digus back the defense looking good. But hey,
they need to pay DAK and pay CD and get
(35:33):
it rolling, or they need to trade CD either San
Francisco and get I You please.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Well, then they gotta pay AU.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Right, But his point is, please, the cupboard is bear
in Dallas. All right, Let's see if you could do better.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
This time.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Fernando in Vegas.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Let me have it, Michigan, Martin wise balls and his
coaching staff and his cheeters take away the title.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
I'll hope to go zero and twelve.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
He suck.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Martin. Have a great night, Chris.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Now, is that the one that gets you before?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
The same guy.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Save guys, that's all right. The ring still shines. Fernando,
eric and Illinois. Who you trashing?
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Hey, guys, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
What's up? Man?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Man?
Speaker 7 (36:23):
I just Lebron James Man.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
He is the most.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
Entitled person on the face of the earth. I'll tell
you what. I used to like Lebron until he has that.
When he went to South Beach, he held us hostage
for an ESPN special just.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
To let us know he was going to Miami.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
No Loder, NBA, NFL player or anyone else hasver done that.
Now his son is the second round draft. He's been
titled more than anyone I've ever been there. To call
him the Los Angeles team, I mean, it's crazy. I
tell you what, man, he's a good player. I respect
everything he's done on the course, But come on, man,
let somebody else carry up flax. So you have the
(37:05):
Hay Olympics. Lebron's got everything.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I am well, they asked him to do it. I
don't remember. I don't think he's strong armed into covering it.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
But to point though, I don't know if you saw this, Chris,
because but I forget the name of the swimmer, the
dick swimmer at this Olympics walked into the basketball stadium
and Lebron the woman.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
No no, no, no no, there's a French guy winning everything. Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Lebron Will goes and walks down the bench and thinks
they're talking, thinks they're all clapping for him, and he
puts the crown on his head as everybody is clapping
for the French swimmer.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
It was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
See that was that today?
Speaker 3 (37:43):
It was today? Yeah, let's squeeze it. Kevin, Kevin at
Culver City, who are you trash? Let's get it.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
That is good.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
I gotta trust, I gotta trust talk commentators. Look this
boxer and Algeria's she's a woman. It's Algerian boxers a woman.
She is clearly uh natural woman. And it's reckless for
reporters like Jesse Waters to say this is a man.
And listen, she's clearly a woman. Brittany Grinder has elevated
(38:11):
levels of Susaco and it happens in sports. She's a
great athlete. Sometimes athletes are bigger than other athletes. Big
Riley Gaines wants to be you know, and broadcasting and
say he's clearly a man. It's irresponsible. This isn't Leah Thomas.
What was it?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
All right?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
We got you, We got you, all right? A couple
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