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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Marn you mentioned it. Team USA walloped Brazil. They next
up have Serbia, which edged Australia in a great game.
It was an overtime game. Patty Mills hit a fifteen
footer over sixteen footter, maybe over Nikole Jokic, who defended
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it about as well as he could, and the Meals
hit it to force overtime. But Serbia prevail in ot
and so they will play the United States and the
winner will go to the gold medal game against either
Germany or France, which beat Canada. I think it's gonna
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be United States against Germany in the final.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
And I you know, what was that.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
A four point game? And exhibition? I get it, it was
just an exhibition. But Germany, you know, will not be easy,
so leading scores Devin Booker dropped eighteen, Anthony Edwards seventeen
off the bench, Anthony Davis thirteen, Durant eleven, Joe LMB
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fourteen NB. I'm gonna give him credit like I did.
Yesterday's played better the last two games, so good for
him play. I had twelve points and nine assists. But
here's the issue.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Obviously, there's not much to say about this.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
They smashed Brazil as we knew they would, most of
us knew they would except for Robert but Noah Lyles,
who won the one hundred meter gold medal in the
greatest race I've ever seen. He of course said lash
a year ago that the NBA champion, you know I'm paraphrasing,
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but wasn't necessarily the world champion, because you know, it's
the league, it's the national championship, of course, but is.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It really the world championship?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And He's gone back and forth with some NBA players
about that, Devin Booker most recently and yesterday, and Booker
made a great point like, look, we got the best
players in the world.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
In the world, it's not just the.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Best American players playing in the NBA, it's the best
players in the world, so it is the World Championship.
I can see both sides, but I do think it's
high time the world has improved enough. And I agree
with Booker Martin. Look, we have Nicole the NBA, yall,
it's Antetokumbo, Luka, Doncis. They're in the NBA Shay Gilders
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Alexander from Canada. So we do have the best league
in the world, there's no question. But I do think
the world has improved enough where why not have a
legitimate world championship where the winner of the NBA plays
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the winner of the EuroLeague or I don't know how
many if there are any other leagues that are on
par with the euro League, but if there are, you
have a round robin tournament or whatever with those teams
playing in it. That would certainly be more of a
world championship. I think we've eaten enough humble Pie to
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not just be like the NBA. And I agree the
NBA is the best, but I'm just saying, now that
they're playing basketball all over the world, why not just
have a world championship, so to speak. But Rob g
Adam Silver saying something that kind of spoke.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
To maybe this being done work. Chris. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I know this is inside radio, but you gotta see you,
I gotta tell you. It's a bird flewid the studio
right now and Brian Finley is under attack.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
It's running over. First of all, how the bird get
it in the studio. I guess it's just somebody held
the door open too long.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
But this thing, wow, diving on at Brian Finley the
same way team us.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Say were following. Yes, wow, that is crazy.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Well, you know what's worse is that, oh it's a bat.
What's worse is that it flew out of the studio
and rather than closing the door behind it, Brian's getting
his phone out of trying to get a video of it,
leaving the door open so we could come back any morning.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Oh mans befitting, all right, that's day.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
No, he's he's nervous, he's so scared he sells his
phone out trying to get video of it. I get
it be fit, But to uh, to answer your question,
and I was flying in this studio, so we're all
going to.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Get Raby that's out a closed over there.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
But to answer your question, Chris, Yes, Adam Silver over
the weekend spoke to the Associated Press, and I'm surprised
to get more run because what he told them is
that he is having quote more serious conversations with FOEBA
because he's there and obviously he's the FEBA Basketball about
having some sort of USA versus the World, NBA World Cups,
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something of that effect. Nothing is in stone, nothing is imminent.
It's still no timetable, but he did say that they
have really taken notice about the globalization of the game
and he would like to see more interaction between America's
best and Europe's best.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Quickly, before you go, Martin, uh huh.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
What they need to do, if they're going to do
any of this is at the professional level, standardize the rules.
Three point line is the same distance, the ball is
the same, The rules are the same.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You know, there's the goaltending.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
There's no defensive three seconds in international play. If you're
gonna start competing like meaningfully outside of the Olympics, outside.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Of the World Cup and all, you know, the feb
World Cup and all that.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Stuff, like when somewhat of a regular basis, you gotta
to make it fair.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You have to standardize the rules.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
College can remain a little different whatever, But the pros
at every level in every.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Country needs to play the same rules.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I mean they could play the same rules, they can
play different rules. The fact of the matter is what
we have seen through this international tournament is these other
countries do not have a shot like when the Team
USA is playing at its best. When Team USA players
are locked in, there's no show and you know all
this would do. Chris is honestly strengthened Team USA shot
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every single year in the in the Olympics, because if
you're gonna have these guys actually play together outside of
the Olympics, then the whole trump that we hear about
these international teams will be dead. It wouldn't be they've
been playing together for so long, because you would have
a legit Team USA five or five men's team that.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Would go each summer.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I will say this about the you been playing together
for so long. Oh, Czechoslovakia have been playing together for
so long. Slovenia have been playing together for so long.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think that's a little overstated. I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Maybe when they were growing up they played together, but
now they all go to their professional leagues and their
professional teams during the year. Nikolay Oaks didn't playing with
these Serbian guys all the time. No, you know, so
I think that needs to stop. That's been an excuse
we've used. But it needs to stop because these Giannis
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isn't playing.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
With the Greek Greek players a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
But I think with the Milwaukee Bucks, and I don't
care that you played together six years ago or ten
years ago. When you're fifteen years old or whatever, things change.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Well, I do think it's a little different than that,
just simply that, because I would agree in that regard.
If you're talking about these guys grew up playing together,
it's like, well, all right, well I wouldn't put Drew
Joyce on the Olympic team because Lebrown's on it right right.
But I do think, like when you see the story
of Dennis Shrewder saying basically as he's like the kind
of the captain of the German team, essentially telling Maxi Kleeber, hey,
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we're good on you, pal, because you didn't play in
the World Cup last summer. I think that's where it
is that the summers that they have played together.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, second, I get that, but still it's a full
year in between that.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean that to me again, I think we've used
that as a bit of an excuse. I don't want
to disregard it completely. But Martin, I think, what what
Adam Silver's talking about, and you know, I think he's
just out there and leaving a lot. Yeah no, I mean,
I'm not saying he may not try to put something together.
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But what I'm talking about, and I think what Adam's
talking about, but definitely what I'm talking about is not
sending an all Star team and all NBA team every
year to play the world because again, that's.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
What the Olympics is.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And yeah, right now, you're right with Lebron and Stephen KD.
We're beating them up. Let's see four years from now
how it goes. And I think will win, but I
mean it's gonna be tougher. But what I'm actually saying, Martin,
is the NBA champion, all right, they would Boston Celtics
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would play the winner the champion of.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
The EuroLeague in a series. Come on, you say, come on.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
But we never if we had never started sending our
pros and against the world, we never thought some of
these Olympic games would be so close. We never thought
we'd actually lose with pros against the world And I'm
not saying we would lose.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Believe me, I think we would win. But I'm just.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Saying the world has gotten good enough where you can.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Have a literal World Championship. And the thing that those.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
European teams will have versus a lot of the NBA
teams may be playing better team basketball. Depends on which
team they play in the NBA, but it might be
playing better team basketball. And now, look, I'll say this, Martin,
we have nothing to gain from this in the NBA,
not a single thing.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
But if you want to.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Like to say you're the World champion, now sounds good,
Just like to say you the World Series, you're the
World champion because you won the World Series. You ain't
playing the best team from Japan. Well, and the way
these Japanese brothers have come over and done in Major
League Baseball, and the way they wipe the floor with
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us in the Little League World Series, who's to say
our teams are automatically better than theirs, but we call
them the World champion.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
But that's that's baseball, which is different.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Which that is an example of how but the version
of this in the World Baseball Classics because when you
look at a baby, but that's not the version. They
don't send the team. They send all stars. But look,
but that's not a team I want the I'm talking
about the NBA champion versus the euro League champion.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
The EuroLeague champion would lose the way that Brazil just
got pounded into oblivion and it's set back home.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That happens, then, Fine, that happens, then fine, I'm cool
with it.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Fine, Yeah, I just don't see any need for this.
I see no need for.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
We've had and I don't have the results in front
of me because I know we won most of them.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But rob G, you know this. We've played. We used
to play.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It was something like the McDonald's exhibitions or something, and
we used to send our NBA teams over to play
in Europe.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
This is decades ago. You remember what I'm talking about, Robgi.
You had it right there, Chris.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
The McDonald's championships sometimes called the McDonald's Open International Basketball,
featuring the NBA champion against club teams from Europe and
South America.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And we won the bulk of them. But correct me
if I'm wrong. We didn't win all the time.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And I get it. I'm sure a lot of our
teams weren't.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You know, they're getting in shape because usually it was
before the season, right, and they're just getting in shape
almost like preseason.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
But we didn't win all of them.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I mean, it sounds like you may have some type
of summary there in front of I do.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
And it actually it did say that we won all
of them.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
We did win all of them. Yes, okay, what a shot. No,
but it stopped. The last one was nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So Chris, they don't have a chance. They don't have
a chance, if we want to put it together. Nineteen
ninety one, the Lakers beat Manege.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I don't know who how to even say this, one
sixteen to one fourteen. Now that was the year that
might have been the magic stopped playing, So obviously the
Lakers weren't as good. The Knicks won in nineteen ninety one,
seventeen to one.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Oh one six.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
The nugget, Yeah, I'm not saying again I would expect
us to win. But what I'm saying, Martin is the
other leagues I think have gotten to the point of legitimacy,
at least the euro League, to where it's like they
can rightly say hey, we want to play y'all. We
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want to play y'all. And if we wipe the floor
with them, so big. But you know what, as we
keep wiping the floor with them, just like it's happened
in international play, maybe each year they get closer and closer,
and then you really it really becomes a legitimate world championship.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
They taking a page of the ice q's book.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Now, I don't think so. I think you're under again.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I would expect us to win, but I think it
would be it's it's worth maybe looking into it, and
we'll see if Adam Silver is doing that. Let's see
what the listeners think. Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Would you like to see like a I guess, a
literal world Championship where the NBA champion in this case
the Celtics would play the euro League champion in a
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seven game series, I would say, Martin, it certainly should
be more than a one in one game. It would
need it would need to be a serious because it
wouldn't be fair, I mean wanting done who anything can happen,
but it would need to be like a series, which
I think would increase our chances of winning as much
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as we already are would win. But I think if
you did it, that have to be how you did
and that does complicate it because it would be tougher,
you know, just from.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
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All Right, the big news in the NFL, Martin, is
that not we know Brandon Ayuk has been holding in,
meaning he'll go to practice but don't participate, And now
the reports are that he could very likely be traded
because the forty nine ers have agreed to terms on
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trades with Cleveland and New England. The Cleveland deal would
be a Marii Cooper and a draft pick or draft picks,
maybe a little fluff thrown in from either even both
sides perhaps, And then New England would be Kendrick Bourne
and some picks.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And now the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Who were rumored to be involved interested and then they
got out. Now worred is they're back in and Washington
which had been in because Brandon Ayuk and Jayden Daniels
were teammates at Arizona State several years ago at this point,
about five years ago. I guess their friends and they
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hang and they love to play together again, so they
were in it.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
But now the reports are that they've dropped out.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
But here's what I want to say, at you, would
the forty nine ers be making a mistake Martin if
they traded Brandon I you, because remember he has no leverage.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
He can hold in and all.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
That, but at the end of the day, if he
doesn't play game. Now I guess he could. You know,
I hate to even put this, but faking injury. Sure,
you know, one of those injuries you can't tell all
my hamstring or you know about.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Ramsey was bad in Jacksonville and that cross caught your
flight to La all of a sudden shaped it right up.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
There you go, here, you go.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So he could do something like that, but most likely
he have to play, because you know your year won't
accrue to free toward free agency if you don't play,
and you don't get paid if you don't play, and
you're not.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Injured, and so I would think he's going to play.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
But the bottom line is this, do you think they'd
be making a mistake by moving on from Brandon Auk?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
No, I do not.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I think Brandon Ayuk is a very good player. But
I think when you considered the fact that it seems
to me that we'll see Rock Perdy be a quarterback
whose average annual value starts with five, you know it
will be upwards of might.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
At minimum, we're looking at a fifty five million dollar quarterback,
very much like in the NBA, where you can't overpay
your second star, right like, especially in a new second
Apron era, if you haven't paying your quarterback sixty million,
fifty five million dollars, sixty million dollars, you cannot overpay
a guy that is not going to be delivering at
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the highest level in the NFL in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So when you look at.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Christian McCaffrey, all right, there's you're not going to name
three running backs better than Christian McCaffrey. You're not going
to name three tight ends better than George Kittle. You're
not going to name three defensive ends better than Nick Bosa,
but oor Trent Williams for that matter.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Same linebacker better than Fred Warner Boom, you nailed it.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
How many receivers do you think you go through before
you get to Brandon Ayuk? More than three? More than five? Right,
more than more, And that's where he wants to get paid.
If they make the deal with Cleveland, I think they'd
be coming up.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
So you think Amri's better than Ayuk?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I think when you consider what Kyle Shanahan's offense is
asking players to do, which is pretty much just follow
the rules and it will work. That's why like Trey Lance,
for example, couldn't workcause it was having a little bit
of trouble processing where to go with the ball, when
to go with the ball right.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
That's why brock Perdy does work.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
In my opinion in Kyle Shanahan's system, because he's just
literally painting by numbers, following the rules. And the way
you're able to do that is by having your skilled
position players be very very precise.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
When you hear Chad o Cho.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Senko, are these other guys who talk about wide receivers
and the way that they do. They always have Amari
Cooper and Devontae Adams as two of the five best
route runners in the NFL. I think we saw last year,
even with five different quarterbacks throwing him the ball, that
Amari Cooper was able to to be productive and be
He had a game where he went like two seventy,
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like be productive at a very very high level. And
when you put him in that San Francisco offense and
he takes over that outside the numbers position that Brandon
I you had with all the weapons they got. Yeah,
Amari Cooper and his route running, technical his uh, you know,
technical ability as a wide receiver I think would shine
uh in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, I agree with you in that if they lose,
if they they if they lose Brandon I you for
one of these trades where they don't get a top
flight player or a comparable player in return, and it's
just draft picks or Kendrick Bourne. I do think it's
a step backwards, but I still believe they would be
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Super Bowl contenders, because, let's face it, they went to
the Super Bowl before Brandon I.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
A year before Brandon I you got there.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, it's not like it was ten years ago and
a whole different team a year before IU got there.
They had a worst quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo. Right, he played
well in San Francisco with healthy we know he's not
as good as Brock Perry. You would agree with that, right, Yeah, Okay.
They had a lesser running back, Raheem Moster has become
a Pro bowler, but he's not as good as Christian McCaffrey.
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And none of their running backs they kind of did
it by committee. Nobody. It was Matt Breda and Jeff Wilson.
I believe none of them had a thousand yards. And
then you had a lesser receiving corps. You had Deebo
Samuel a younger version of course, but it Manuel Sanders,
the aforementioned Kendrick Bourne.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Like, it wasn't as good of a receiving group, and.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yet all of that all those lessers, I said, and
they still made it to the super Bowl, so they
would still be a super Bowl contender. But I'm with
you if they if I'm San Francisco Martin. I don't
know the inner workings of this, their discussions with I Yuk.
Maybe he's a lot more upset, maybe he's you know,
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really causing trouble, whatever, But I am Why would I
make a deal with any of these other teams outside
of Cleveland? Because I agree with you on Amri Cooper.
He's got one year left on this deal. I think
he's making like twenty twenty or twenty two million something
like that. If he plays well, I can resign him,
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not at the same number I Yuk would one because
Cooper's older, he's thirty, and not paying him as much,
especially if we let him go allows.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Me to keep more of my guys.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
They're talking, would they have to lose deba Well maybe
not if you have Amari Cooper or something, or even
if you let Amri walk so it'll give them more
money to spend elsewhere. So I love the Amari Cooper deal,
not that I don't. I don't think he's better than Ayuk,
but look that system in Cleveland is. I mean, we
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know Kevin Stefanski is from the Kyle Shanahan tree. They
run a similar offense. The numbers between Ayuk and Cooper
were almost identical last year, and Cooper did it with
five subpar or mediocre quarterbacks throwing to him, the best
of whom was probably Joe Flacco. Right, And we know
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Deshaun Watson isn't what he used to be, at least
wasn't last year.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And so I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
If they can get Cooper and they get draft picks
or a pick, they're gonna need those picks once they
signed perty to bring in other players. Remember you still
got Ricky Piersov. So I think he's a four to
four burner from you know, College Florida.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, and I think he could have a nice year.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm not saying he's gonna like the league on fire
and be an all Pro, but I think he can
have a good year, especially later.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
In the season once he gets used to everything.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
So I'm with you in that, especially that Cleveland did.
I'm really not even trying to talk to these other
teams because I don't know what team can give them
somebody as good as Cooper at the receiving position.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
And then plus two not only that, how much better
is the Like it depends on how you feel about
Cleveland going into this year, but they're in the AFC North,
Joe Burrow is back healthy, Lamar Jackson is the reigning
league MVP, and they have something to prove after the
way that they ended the season last year like that,
and the Pittsburgh Steelers have never finished under five hundred
and Tomlin's entirety of coaching, right, so you end up,
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you know, we'll see what their quarterback situation ends up
playing out to be. But you're in a tough division there.
If you're the Cleveland Browns, that pick is going to be.
I mean it may not be New England Patriots good,
a team that is good, slated to win five games
a whole year, but four four four and a four
to four and a half, right, but you know a
team that is you know, it may not be that good.
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But what's it could be the fifth pick or maybe
all sorry, the eleventh pick, Like I'll take the eleventh
pick with the Mario Cooper if I can get the
first round or for.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Him, wow, Frank the first one with I think get
it might be Cooper and a second round pick, but
still that's not bad. I don't think you get in
the first and Cooper I'd be shocked at that. But yeah,
I'm with you. Look I like you, And let me
say I ask you this, as I mentioned a few teams,
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New England, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Washington. Washington is really not in it,
but I'll throwing him in there. Cleveland to me is
definitely the deal for San Francisco to do.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
From Ayuk standpoint, where do you think is the best
place for him to go?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Of those four teams?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Probably Pittsburgh play opposite George Pickens, right, so you have
two legit threats on the outside. Pickings is still under
contract for the next two years I believe at minimum
maybe three, So you end up that's a solid right there.
Pittsburgh would have to I mean, anywhere he goes, he's
gonna have to sign an extension.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
That's kind of the way this whole thing is going
to work. So if you were to go to Pittsburgh's
signed an extension. Only problem is with Pittsburgh, you're still
unsure of the quarterback situation. But I think I would
land on going to the better organization that has more
historical success and they've.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Had great success with wide receivers exactly. That would be
my that'd be my move. Yeah, I'm not mad at that.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I do think that's a great spot for him. Yes,
the quarterback situations in Flux, it kind of is in
Cleveland too. I mean, we don't know what Watson is
at this point. I love I paid right, and I'd
love for him to be you know, ninety percent of
what he used to be in Houston. That would be good. Washington.
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We don't know what Jaydon Daniels will be, but I
like him. You're across from Terry McLaurin. It's it's I
think with dan Quinn they're going to be a better organization.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Now, that's not bad.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
My thing kind of Martin is any place but New England.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Like, I am not trying to go to New England.
If I'm him, I wouldn't either.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I mean, and I know, I guess you could say, well,
who know, Drake may could be better or as good
at least as Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
And that's true, sure, But I just I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Without knowing that that quarterback is right, because if I'm
Brandon Aiyuk, I'm like, yes, I want to get paid,
and that's forced first and foremost.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Let's keep it real.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
It say's a job, But I also want a quarterback
that I believe I can go and make put put
up numbers.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
With what's the point.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I mean, yeah, you're making money, but if I can't
shine and do my thing, I'm not gonna be happy.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Oh that's what I'm looking at as a young guy
like him.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, I don't see New England being a legit option,
especially I know it's a new regime there, sort of right,
it's kind of an extension of right, you know, it's
sort of a new regime. As you saw Gerard Mao
mentioning something he learned from Bill Belichick today, and that's
not to talk about players on other teams. Right, So
he's the ghost of Bill is still strong there. If
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I had to pick between the bad options, I go
to Washington because at least I know I'm friends with
the quarterback, so we should have a good rapport.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
No, I hear you? There.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
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Speaker 1 (28:24):
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And I'm sure I'm missing something else our man, Antonio Daniels.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
What's up, Bron what's up? Chris? Hey Martin? Now you
guys doing You ain't missing nothing, Chris, you ain't miss nothing.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I know you'd be a humble man. So but anyway,
let's get right to it. Canada goes down to France.
So now the final four is America versus Serbia in
the Olympics and France and Germany on the other side.
Winners will play in the Olympic gold medal game. But
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Canada was really probably the most disappointing player for them
throughout these Olympics has been Jamal Murray after six points
a game, shot like twenty nine percent from the floor,
and that's coming off a postseason where he was not
himself that he is in negotiations with the Nuggets. If
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you were the Nuggets, hey, look, we know he's a
great player, But would this give you any pause coming
off the bad playoff?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
And also we know he's.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Been injured, He's had injury issues throughout his career.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
No, because the thing is like, honestly, Chris, you can't
afford allowed Jamal Murray to walk.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
He's got one yearly after in this deal. So I
just say you got time, but.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
You but realistically you really don't have time. I mean,
I just you know, you know how guys are. There's
an crazy amount of ego that's attached to this. We
are sitting back right now and watching teams take care
of their respective free agents like it's nothing overpaid for
certain guys, you know. And if Jamal Murray two years
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removed from winning an NBA championship and Denver saying, you
know what, We're not sure if your words that we
want to wait, be careful what you wish for. That's
all I'm saying. But I will say this though, Chris,
he doesn't look right. He looks heavy. He looks heavy
to me. Usually around this time is when guys start
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to really get themselves into training camp, preseason and regular
season shape. And right now, I don't know if Jamal
Murray's nursing the injury or he's been nursing the injury
throughout the course of this summer. But he doesn't look
as quick as Agile was athletic, and he looks It's
a little heavy to me.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I'll say this.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
When I was watching that game, I had the volume down.
If you had told me that that was an NBA
All Star, our NBA All Star level player, I was like,
what really?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
What watching Jamal Murray and.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I agree with you, Antonio, he's about to get that
Denver Bag. I want to ask you a lot about
Steve Kerr and his rotations and more importantly, Draymond Green
comment on them, right, I mean Steve Kerr's rotations.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I guess you could scratch your head at.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Them a little bit, but Draymond Green went so far
to say that he thinks that it was trying to
cover for something. What do you make of this kind
of summer criticism of the head coach, like of your
day job.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
With Draymond Green. You know he's on the side job
on the podcast doing it.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
I mean, I've heard a lot of criticism of Steve Kerr,
to the point where my co host last week on
our radio show, I said, you're talking about Team USA.
I said, they're coming up a loss. Ye, And then
here's the big We only care about rotations and who's
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not playing and all these other kind of things. If
Team USA doesn't win the gold, if Tom USA wins
the gold, no one's gonna look back and say they
want to go man, but Jason Tatum should have played
more or they won the gold, but joelmb should have
had more minutes. No, the whole ninga's winning the gold.
And right now, Team USA, especially Nobody's last few games,
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they're running through everybody, and we can talk about the
adjustments and the adjustments. To me, I'm gonna be honest,
they have been good adjustments because the result is in
the win. When you only beat South Sudan by one point,
and you say, man, you know what, Joel Embi probably
isn't a good matchup for this team because they run
and they get up and down the floor. Then you
blow out South Sudan. People are more focused about Joel
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emb not playing as opposed to Team USA blowing out
South Sudan the second time they played.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I mean, but if I may, it's one thing hurting
for your co host and for me for Christmas R.
For you to come at on these it's another thing
entirely to me. For more is it for Draymond Green,
who's gonna have to deal with Steve Kerk for about
sixty games, might be suspended for twenty of them.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
But let's say he plays all these eighty two games
next year.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
But the thing is that Aryors Championship window is closed.
Draymond Green is Raymond Green. We already know what's coming.
Like now that Klay Thompson's gone, it's almost like the
floodgates have opened. You will have a hard time thinking
of a dynasty that came crumbling down quietly that it
doesn't happen. You know when dynasties, when they come down
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and they crumble, they crumble. And this is a part
of all that to me, Like do you think of
all that Draymond Green has been doing Golden State, all
that him and Steve Kerr been do do you really
think that Draymond Green is gonna go on this podcast
and hold its own, especially now that they're no longer
in the quote unquote Championship Conversation. I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
And my thing, Antonio, I'll be willing to bet Draymond
has said much worse to Steve Kurt to his face or.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
In the last question about it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
So Draymond also said that this year's Olympic team would
I mean he he kind of was like, would would
whip the ninety two Olympic team the dream team?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
He said, they beat them five out of seven times and.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
By double roughly double figures every time, ten or more points.
Where do you how do you compare this team? We
know we want to can they gotta wing goal?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
But to that ninety two two you can't like?
Speaker 8 (34:35):
And now, out of all of my years doing talk
radio and TV, this is one conversation I've never been
being on because there's no way of knowing. There's literally
no way of knowing. So it basically just becomes a
topic of conversation and debate for what for what, Like
we're comparing the contrasting generations. We can look at that
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ninety two team, I was again the dream team special
and the lack of competition that they had at that
particular time where their opponents were sitting on the bench
and taking pictures of them during the game. Right, you
fast forward, you fast forward now thirty two years later,
these dudes that they're playing against don't fair Team USA.
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They don't fair Team USA no more. Those days are over.
Now Team in USA is the biggest, the strongest, the fastest,
the most athletic, and the most talented. They're just not
nearly as feared as they were way back in ninety two.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Now you talk about the biggest, strongest, fast as well,
common basketball fans will say the best player in the
world is up next on the other side for a
Team USA with Nicole Jokics or Serbia. They squeaked fast
Australia earlier today, do you now? Does not be the
first time we've seen these two national teams play.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
We saw them in the exhibitions earlier.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
But what do you expect to see out of Team
USA against Nicole jokicch and the Serbs.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
I would be very surprised again if this was a
close game, because Nikola Jokics is Nicola Jokic bug done.
Magdanavisis back. But that's about where it stops. The thing
like USA talent level is it's crazy. So when Nakola
Jokic goes out the game, you're coming in. And no
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disrespect to whoever it is, they're coming in with somebody
that's not Anthony Davis, not Damn out of Bayo, not
Jason Tatum, not Anthony Edwards. Like the USA team comes
at you in waves, they come at your waves. I
feel like the team the two teams that I felt
like could really push Team USA where they're not hitting
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the floor and just kind of as a matter of
time before they separate or one Germany into Canada and
Canada is eliminated. Right now, I feel like it's on Germany.
I don't think any other team France. You watch France
play today, France, I don't think France can. I don't
think Serbia can test or really challenged Team USA.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
A couple of days ago, there was some video of
chet home Gren, you know, just playing open gym, and a.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Lot of people were amazed by it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
For lack of a better word, do you think o Casey,
like I think we know last year they became the
youngest team ever to win a playoff series. I still feel,
Antonio like they are one year away from really being
able to get to the finals and win it all.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
And I'm really am basing that on their youth. I mean,
it's they look good.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
I'm not going to know.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
To me, do you agree that next year they still
will be too young to win a championship or do
you think next year they'll actually have a great shot.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
Okay, to ask you a question before I answer that question.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
Who's their starting five man?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
The Hartenstein.
Speaker 8 (37:52):
That's my problem from New York. That's my problem though
this has been my and I have talked about this
almost all summer. What made KC as good as they
were last year was they played four smalls and set
Homegrin at the five. Now this is changing their entire identity.
Then Likedia Hardenstein at the five. I feel like when
chet Homegrend at the four kind of removes the advantage
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that chet Homegren half from playing at the five.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Right, I don't think this.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
Oh Like when we do our rankings, I won't pick
Okac to come in first because of Iday. Hardenstein is
the heck of a player. He played great in New
York under that system. Excellent passer, excellent toot around the
restricted area. But going into Okac, I feel like if
they're starting him at the five and set Homegren at
the four, that they're changing the identity because Now what
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you're doing is you're bringing Alice Cruso off the bench.
And to me, I feel like Teed Homegren at the
five and j Dubb and Alex Caruso and they goes
Alexander and lou Dort that five. To me, I'm with you.
I will rock with that. But don't you take Keed
Hooman from the five and you put him at the
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four and now you surround him with three smalls and
him mean one of the perimeter guys. I'm just not
rocking with that combination.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I agree with you, and I think that's something they
really should look at. Because Hartenstein, you know, he's been
coming off the bench for most of his career.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
He and you just may need him in certain matchups.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Obviously gonna play every game, you know what I'm saying,
Like I feel letting that because and Austin d to
a large degree.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
But you know what, Chris who, when of the last
time you've seen a guy making twenty nine million dollars?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Agent?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
That's fair, Come up the bitch, that's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
But they gotta be careful, Like you said, you don't
want to you can.
Speaker 8 (39:47):
You can disrupt chemistry and a.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Heartbeat right right, all right, that's our man, Antonio, Daniel's
great stuff brother.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Have a good week for sure. I appreciate you guys,
yes sir Later