August 17, 2024 • 37 mins
Rob discusses all the hullabaloo surrounding Steph Curry and the definition of 'clutch' in the wake of his virtuoso performance in the gold medal game of the Olympics, tells us why he doesn't believe Carmelo Anthony when he says that he wouldn’t trade in his Olympics gold medals for an NBA championship and debates whether Justin Fields or Russell Wilson should be the front-runner for the Pittsburgh Steelers’ QB1 job.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm always one of those guys that get people worked
up because I give him a different slant on stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I didn't trash Steph Curry.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And say he was garbage or his performance in the
gold medal game was terrible or whatever. He made those
four to threes at the end, I simply stated fact.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Facts factz.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Where I went to school, That's how we spelled facts, Okay,
And guys like Gilbert I, Reeniz and Doug Gottlieb all
got their panties in a bunch because they don't know
what the definition of clutch is. You look at the
shots he made and I said they were big shots. Brian, No,
they were big shots, right. But it's not about this
(01:20):
isn't Rob a pedia. This is the NBA, they deem
what is a clutch shot? Their own definition?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Are you ready, Brian, I'm ready for it. Yeah, hit
me with it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
The NBA defines clutch as under five minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Score within five.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Only one of those three pointers fit that category.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The other three they were.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Up by six, you know what I mean, Like it
was a big shot.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But clutch to me.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Is Aaron Judge hitting a two run home run in
the bottom of the ninth when you're down by one.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That's clutch tying the game.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Ray Allen for the Miami Heat right when he tied
the game, because sending an overtime, that's a clutch shot.
That's all I'm saying. People are so defensive. If you
say anything against Steph. I've talked to plenty of NBA players.
(02:26):
I say, if you only had a chance to get well,
you know, you have to get one basket to win
the game, who would you give the ball to. Nobody
picks Steph? Nobody And the numbers, Brian are very obvious.
He's oh for fourteen in the final fifty seconds with
a chance to tie or put his team ahead. Oh
for fourteen in the postseason. I'm not talking about regular
(02:48):
season games.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
In there. I'm talking about postseason.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It's hard for me to look at a guy and
call him clutch or the greatest shooter of all time
when he hasn't made those baskets. Does he have to
be fourteen for fourteen? No, but oh for fourteen is
pretty small. It tells me when the moment's big and
the lights are bright, like a hamburger on one of
(03:14):
those fast food restaurants with the lamp on it or whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
He wilts or he doesn't come through. That's all man.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Okay, Rob, So here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I'll give you credit because you have found a technicality
in the ointment. I don't know if that's a new
technicality in the ointment, right, number flies, we have technicalities
in the ointment because yes, if we're talking about the
actual definition, yeah, only one of those shots were deemed
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clutch right where we're talking about under five minutes, score
within five points. Only one of those four to three
pointers by Steph at the end against France was a
quote unquote clutch shot. So like, there's no arguing with that.
And you said at the very beginning, and this was
an important point by you, you said those were big shots.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm not trying to belittle them or say like he
didn't do anything. They're big shots, Brian, I would be
lying if I Sandy weren't big shots. You know, to
make a six point game a nine point game and
at that time I get it.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yeah, And that last three while doubled and fading away
was just insane. So to string four of those together
in a row and the French commentators are calling him
the devil, you know, like that was pretty special, man.
That was a signature moment the night night, the whole thing.
(04:46):
That was Steph Curry on the heels of what he
did against Serbia. Thirty six points and nine three pointers.
He was sensational the last two games. But that's the thing, Rob,
I feel like, this is the difference between reading the
the headline and then reading the column. Like your headline
of Steph Curry's shots weren't clutch, It's like, what what
(05:08):
what are you talking about? And then you read the
column and you're like, I see what you're saying, And
technically only one of those shots was the definition of clutch.
You're not wrong with the argument, but the headline catches
your attention and people assume you're saying something that you're not.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right And it ain't even my definition, Brian, you know,
like that's the big thing. That's what the NBA in
their own bylaws or rules or whatever, what they consider clutch.
That that that's what it is. I always say that,
even Brian. I'll look at shots. Okay, if the game
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is tied, you have the ball right, the clock is
running down, that's not a clutch shot to me. And
I'm gonna tell you, because you don't lose, there's no
pressure on you.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know, make or miss. We're going to overtime. Am
I right?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Like, Like I'm not saying that it's not a difficult
shot or a great shot if you can make it,
but it ain't the same when you're down a point
and if you miss, the game is over or your
team's out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I don't care what anybody says. It ain't the same shot.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
It would be like, let's throw it to football. The
first thing that came to my mind was when the
Giants were facing the undefeated Patriots and they're down by
four points. That has to be a touchdown drive. That's
the only way playing it simple, right, right, So if
you're talking about hey, we're down by one, we're down
by two.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
You mentioned the Ray Allen shot. If he misses that
finals over.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And maybe changes Lebron's whole legacy, right, I mean, that's
how big that shot was.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
It's a different type of pressure if you're even and
this is a last second shot, buzzer beater. I still
think there's pressure with that, But to your point, it's
not the same pressure as do or die, like you
gotta make this or the dream is dead.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
No, it's a it's a it's a big shot. I'm
not saying like even when Kyrie made the three to
beat the Warriors, the score was tied, it's a big shot,
great comeback.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
No team had ever come back.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
From a three to one deficit, like a lot of
things there on the road Game seven. But but it
was a big shot. It was it was a big shot.
There was no doubt about it. So I'm not saying
they weren't big shots. You just talked about it was
a moment in Steph's career. But all these guys who
(07:38):
get worked up and think like I'm the anti and
the anti Christ, and I hate Steph Curry, Like I
don't know Steph Curry. I have no reason to hate
Steph Curry. Everything this guy exudes is positive.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
It's fun. What is there to hate about Steph Curry.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Everybody doesn't have to be on the Steph Curry bandwagon
for it to be you know what I mean, for
people to feel good about themselves. I'm just telling you
when you talk about calling somebody the greatest of all time,
and I brought up his name a million times, right,
Marvel Levy, the coach at the Buffalo Bills. Do you
(08:19):
know why he's never mentioned in the conversation of greatest
coaches of all time?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Because the years oh for four in the Super Bowl
he never won.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, I mean like that, And that's the reason we
know he was a great coach, don't we.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But nobody will consider him the.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Greatest coach of all time because when it really mattered,
nobody said, well he wants to he won the AFC.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Four years in a row.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
No, when it really mattered, his team lost, and so
people say, here, he had a really good career or whatever,
But nobody is going to put him in that category
because it's about that. It's not about getting to the
front door of the Playboy mansion.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's about getting in, Brian No I won in.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, no, I hear.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I just love that some people go straight to calling
you the anti Christ's totally my goodness, gracious, but yeah, listen,
I think it's important for people to understand you're not
saying these weren't big shots. You aren't saying he didn't
come up huge in the last two games, which he did.
You go back to the game against Serbia. The biggest,
(09:25):
little uh, the biggest sequence in that game, Serbia was
up by two and they had a wide open three
point shot and they missed it.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
They could have gone up by five, and.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Who hit the three to take the lead, Steph Curry
with just over a couple of minutes to go. Huge shot,
clutch shot there by definition. But yeah, when you're talking
about this with France, those were signature moments for Steph
in those two games. And I love, man, I love
how you see these these cracks, these little openings, you know,
to needle and and.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You're technically right, it's the beauty of the.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Whole thing technically, except when it comes to Gilberto Renas.
I guess, my new arch enemy, I guess, But check out,
Gilbert Reena is trying to create his own definition of clutch.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Listen to this.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I think it's how Steph got the gold is more
important than just the metal itself.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Right.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
He showed on the highest level he's clutch, right, and.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Not the media's version of clutch.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Not the media's.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Version of you know, hitting shots with three seconds left
and you know, whatever metrics that they came up with
to make themselves sound smarter.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Not that clutch.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Basketball clutch right where we're in the middle of a
back and forth. Every shot I take now is pressured, right.
Every shot you take now, you're trying to win, and
I'm trying to keep you at bay. So every shot
those last four shots were pressure shots.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Because if he misses them, it's a different.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Game, right, And people don't understand, Like if you never
played the game, you don't understand what real, what real
clutch is. Yeah, the moment in time, every shot he
took was a shot to seal it, put it away,
keep him at bay, right, And that's what that moment was.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't know Rob so he came up with that's
I guess that's basketball clutch. And I guess the people
at the NBA who wrote the what a clutch shot
is I guess they don't know basketball, and that's always
the crutch for all these guys.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
You put a.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Microphone in front of them and they're going to tell you, right,
some other story different from others. I'm sorry, Yes, I
didn't play in the NBA. But guess what, Gilbert Areena is.
You didn't go to journalism school, you didn't graduate from Columbia,
you have a podcast, you're not on a radio network
on four hundreds stations around the country, whatever it is.
(12:03):
But you can make up basketball clutch and talk about
a shot in the first half and say that was
a clutch shot when the NBA itself deemed it in
the last five minutes.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Not Rob Parker. So he says, Oh, if you haven't played.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, you came up with the NBA, not Rob Parker.
Go look it up, Gilbert Ritas the NBA has defined.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What clutch is.
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Speaker 1 (13:22):
Carmelo Anthony what on a podcast and said that a
gold medal to him is bigger than winning an NBA
Finals title.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Let's listen. Would you trade your feelanth the gold medals
for one NBA ringer. I've never been asked that question.
Speaker 8 (13:41):
No, when we talk about the global sport, for me,
a medal means something totally different than an NBA championship.
They both have their own separate meanings. But winning a
gold medal, it's the passion, it's the pride that you have,
not just for a city or a state, for a whole.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Nations, for whole country. You'll win it for it.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
So it's a different level of I would say pride
that you have to have when you're wearing USA across
the chess or you're wearing Lithuania across your chess. Right,
it's a totally different feeling than Knicks New York across
your chess.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Sorry, Carmelo not buying it, No way, no how, Brian,
And I'm not unpatriotic, and I get it you're wearing
the red, white and blue, and oh you're on the
world stage.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I'm sorry. If I'm an NBA player, winning an.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
NBA championship is numero uno the medal against a ton
of players who I.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Don't even know who they are, where they came from.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
How good the competition When you're in the NBA, those
are the four hundred best players in the world. I'm sorry.
And if you win a championship, just like when Carmelo
won the the college basketball Championship, right, he was tremendous.
You remember that, Brian. Now, yeah, Jim Beaheim should kiss
his butt every time he sees Carmelo Anthony. Otherwise, Jim
(15:10):
Behem would have coached for fifty years and never would
have won a championship. Carmelo was spectacular. People always remember
that and this notion that you covet the three medals
you won in the Olympics. And I'm not trying to
pooh pool them or discount them or mean that their
(15:30):
garbage or anything. But it was easy for him to
say that because he has the medals and he didn't
have the championship.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
That's right, right, Yeah, That's what it comes down to,
is this is a hypothetical question, and he gave a
hypothetical answer, right, Like, Rob, do you believe in your
heart of hearts, we're talking about American basketball here. If
this is Yokich and trading an NBA ring for a
gold medal, maybe I'll listen.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
To that argument. You know what, And I agree with you.
In those countries, it's totally different. They don't have a
league of the level I'm talking about, of the level
of the NBA where you consider it the best league.
Right yeah, just don't, right, I think Jokic, even the
Japanese players that come here, right.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, I think Jokic.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
If Jokic said, listen, I would trade my NBA ring
to win it.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I would fully believe that. Right, I'm with you on.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
That, But do you believe Mellow like if you could
actually do this, you could trade your three gold medals
for one NBA ring. If he could actually do that,
I think he would. I think he'd be out of
his mind not to do that, because the gold it
doesn't mean nearly as much for your individual legacy as
an NBA championship does, especially if it was what the.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Knicks Carl Mello Anthony was born in New York, grays
and Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But if you want to go back and win, I mean, look.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
At what doing with Jalen Bruns and he just didn't
even get out of second round. I know it making
it like like like he's the next coming of the Messiah.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
What they were doing a couple of years ago when
they beat the Hawks in the first round, they acted
like they won a championship. Then like if Melo was
the reason why they want to ring, Oh gosh.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
You know what. I still remember, uh Cecil Fielder.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
When he came to the Yankees in the trade and
they won the World Series in ninety six, and he
told me, he said, dude, he said, you know, winning
a World Series or whatever, and the way the people
responded to He said he couldn't go anywhere in New
York without people paying homage to him helping the Yankees
win a World Series in ninety six.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
He said, the most unbelieve.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He said, I don't care how I look, what I'm
doing or whatever. Somebody, he said, no matter where I went,
would stopped me and thanked me for winning a World
Series for the Yankees in ninety six.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Yeah, that's and I think could flip it around. Also, Rob,
what if let's say Mellow was a three time NBA
champion and he was on a podcast and he said, Hey,
you know the Olympics they're going on right now, would
you trade those three NBA rings for a single goal?
Hell no, you wouldn't even think twice about you.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
We wouldn't even think.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And I don't think it's I just don't think the
Olympics hold the same weight. And it doesn't mean that
it's meaningless or uh. There's certain events like like the
Women of Won. I know they had a nail bider
to win this past one right against France.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Is that who they be? But they've won eight straight
gold medals?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Is that is that I'm not really so that the
competition is that bad that that you can win eight
gold medals in a row.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I pooh pooh that. I don't think that there's much competition.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I would say an Olympics five in a row, right, Yeah,
that's right, an Olympic gold medal for an American basket right,
that's the And on your bullet point resume, they would
start with league MVP, you know, three time champion, like,
it would start with that fan MVP. Yeah, and medalist right,
(19:14):
like the gold medal for a Team USA player is
the and it's not the headliner. It's NBA Championships MVPs
like those individual hons.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Then you would get to the gold.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Everybody knows Michael Jordan's six for six in the NBA finals,
that's what that's right.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Do you know how many gold medals does mj have?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Off the top of my head, I'm not sure, but
we know they know he won one six rings?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Did he go? Did he win two? Did he go? Twine?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
You could play that game like you could throw out
throw out current NBA players like how many rings does
this guy have? And you could just rattle them off,
how many rings does staff have for right, like you
just rattle them up? How many gold medals does KG have?
I have no idea. I don't know how many exacts.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
When I knew that the gold medal didn't have the
same meaning anymore? Is I had a gold medal, I
put it on the windshield of my car, went into
a restaurant, I came back out and there were three
gold medal thew I'm just.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Saying that should have been the follow up question for Mellow,
right is uh, would you give up that bronze for
an NBA ring?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Though?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Mellow would you do that? At least?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Can we get make that transaction?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I just I get it. I mean, if that's all
you have, you're gonna cover it. Right And Rob, listen,
I'm not mad at him. That's what he won, and
he's a tremendous player in the Olympics. He won three
gold medal I'm not mad. That's great and it's meaningful.
We're not saying it's meaning less. Like think about Lebron.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Lebron went to the women's gold medal game the day
after and he was wearing his gold medal. Rob, and
I thought that was all somebody look at that like
Lebron's looking for attention. It's a flex. But Rob he
had to work for that medal. He's earned a lot
of money in his in his time here on earth.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
He can't buy a gold medal.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
He couldn't buy a thirteen point comeback against Serbia. They
had to earn that gold medal and that means something
to him. And I think that's awesome. And we're not
saying a gold medal doesn't mean anything, but for an
individual legacy, it doesn't mean nearly as much for an
American as an NBA championship doubts.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's just not even close. And again, I don't know,
rob G. Did you hear anymore of the podcast. Was
it a pushback at all? Because I know that's one
of my biggest issues with some of these podcasts is
no one, you know, they ask people a question, they
answer it, and there's no pushback, like like I would love.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
It's the barbershop thing, like you hate Lebron show because
there's no pushback.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Ever, I tell you all that the barbershop, I own
a barbershop for twenty two years, Brian.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
That's all the barbershop is is Puay exactly this push back.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You could come in with that shirt you have on,
that black shirt and somebody would say that's brown. That's
not black, right, that's what they say. In the barbershop,
that ain't black brown? What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Like, they don't.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Agree on anything, and in the lebron shop they all
second everything he says.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Everybody agree with Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Maybe that's why you wouldn't get him on the podcast
in the first place.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
A lot of the athletes just don't want pushback or
the yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
But you cheat the listener and that's all just a question.
You don't have to attack him. Really, mellow, you were
born in New York and you wouldn't want to help
the Knicks win their first championship since nineteen seventy three?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Do you know how you would be elevated?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Like I get the Olympics and all these other players
who played, but if you were to reason the Knicks
won a championship, you don't think that would put you
on a plateau like someb of the go. Joe Namanth
played football in the sixties for the Jets. He's an
icon there, right, That's the last time the Jets one
assumed he's an icon.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Mellow would be a made man, There's no doubt about it.
You know, and that city, Rob, we're talking of all
the major sports combined.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It's been over one hundred.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Seasons since New York has had a championship, right then
the Knicks have contributed to that, as.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
We all know, that's an unbelievable number. It really is.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
So yeah, not just for that city also, you know,
to have a championship again would be huge.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
This was an underrated part of that same interview.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Rob is normally I tuned this stuff out when you hey,
who's your starting five?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
All time?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Normally I don't care at all, right, but I thought
this was kind of interesting. He was asked in that
same podcast, who is all time Olympics starting five would be?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
And Melo said Lebron, James, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant, Charles Barkley,
I haven't heard Michael Jordan yet, and himself.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
What what?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
No, Michael nov j or Jordan?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
No? Is that unbelievable? There you go, and of course
the interviewers, Oh, that's a great.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, that's a great.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I agree, that's funny. I had the same thing.
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Speaker 1 (24:36):
Preseason games are underway, as we know, not very exciting
for the most part, but they are. You know, you
gotta get the work in. Justin Fields had a pretty
pretty good start there for the Steelers, except for he
had a couple of fumbles which didn't go over well
with his coach. Can't turn the ball over, you know
that he's a big turnover machine. But anyway, Justin Fields,
(24:59):
Russell Wilson both there. People thought it's gonna be all
about Russell Wilson, and then all of a sudden they
make a trade. They get Justin Fields for nothing, absolutely nothing.
But he's on the team. He's a young guy, got
a lot of ups start, and Martin Weis thinks he
should be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
You're all in on Justin Field?
Speaker 9 (25:15):
Yeah, I mean, well, to say I'm all in makes
it seem like I'm betting that it'll work. But if
you have the options though, I mean, let's be honest,
neither one of these are great options, right, Like have
an asparagus or broccoli you know both neither Your third
grade is not gonna like either one. But if I
had to make the choice between these two guys, like
the Steelers have to do to me, the answer is
clearly far and away Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
If for no other.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
Reason, he's younger, he's more athletic, and if he hits,
you have a franchise quarterback. Russell Wilson can go out
there and play the season of his life, his best
season he's ever played. And you know you got that
most two more seasons out of them, three more.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Seasons out of them. Justin Field's go out there and
you figure.
Speaker 9 (25:56):
Out a way to tap into some of the potential
that everybody saw leading up at his draft or leading
up into his draft class where he was picked, then
you actually have a shot to have a guy for
the next five six.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Years that can lead your team.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And when you look at a guy like Justin Fields,
no one is saying, look, especially with what the Steelers
are trying to do.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You go with Arthur Smith. He's gonna want to run
the ball.
Speaker 9 (26:17):
It's gonna be a lot of playoffs, it's gonna be
a lot of bootlegs, it's gonna be a lot of
things where it really helps to have athletic quarterback, and
Russell Wilson just strains his cap pushing the tackling sled.
Should he have been pushing a tackling sled. Of course not,
he's a quarterback. When's the last time he saw Russell
Wilson on the lead block. I'll answer for you it's never.
But the reality of the situation is we look at
Russell Wilson and he graduated from high school the same year.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I ain't got no business being an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
Honestly, if you look at the last two seasons he
had in Denver, he don't look like he had any
business being a.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
NFL played pretty well, ye play, he played so well
that Sean Payton, a guy who knows hated him before
he got before quarterbacks, he's won one super Bowl with
all fame quarterback. No he had, Sean Payton, No nothing
about quarterback. I have four losing seasons Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
So you know you're telling me Sean Payton is not
it's not a good quarterbacking valuation.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
All I'm telling you is that you're giving him way
too much credit. And what he did to Russell Wilson
was ridiculous, unprofessional, and he hated him.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
From the minute he walked in the door. He played
well last year.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
Stop stop, no, Russell Wilson, He's good under what metrics?
Besides he played in the ratio? Did he played well
last year? Was trying not to know the idea that
Russell Wilson played well? First of all, it's the fallacy.
But I'm gonna leave that there. You're telling me that
Sean payton't know what he's doing when he come quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
No, I just told you.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
They have four losing seasons with with a a what
a Hall of Fame quarterback? Didn't they They were seven
and nine like four years they won one Super Bowl
under that everybody. Everybody says, Mike McCarthy's no good. Mike
McCarthy and Sean Payton. Go look at their They're identical
there the records. Almost I did.
Speaker 9 (27:59):
Never said a guy who won thirty six games in
the last three years is no good.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
But a lot said a lot of people don't respect
Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
I respect both, okay, they both know and you look
at Mike McCarthy with Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott was running
up for m VP this year. I think he knows
the thing or two about quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Runner up and he only got was there was no
one first place vote?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Is that it? Would you call that runner? Yeah? That's
why would you come in second? You're the runner around?
I don't think it's a real runner up when the
other guy got almost all white.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
Literally by definition mifter, the definition of clutches day. If
you're coming second, you're the runner up. All right, that's
just the way it works. If we can establish that
fact that maybe.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We can told you a million times Loud doesn't make
you right, but quiet doesn't make your right either.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Sean Payton was so ready to move on from Russell
Wilson he spent eighty five million dollars to send him away,
to send him away, like right, Like what more do
you need?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Like that is it? People make mistakes? Do front office
people make mistakes on people?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
The mistake was trading for Russell Wilson. No mistake was
here's the thing you're fanning all over justin Fields? Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Since joining the league in twenty twenty one, Fields is
last among thirty eight qualified quarterbacks and fourth quarter interceptions.
That's sixteen thirty six in completion percentage fifty six point
two and thirty third in quarterback. When this is the
guy you got your panties in a bunch over last season.
Through Week seventeen before players started the rest for Week eighteen,
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Fields ranked last in the NFL and fourth quarter completion
percentage fifty one point eight, twenty fifth in.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yards per ten five point nine.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Tied for twenty ninth, and fourth quarter interception six and
thirtieth in QBR twenty point four.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Was that that's your guy? Who was that about week seven?
That's your guy?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh wait, justin Field, that's your guying in week seventeen.
That's Russell Wilson was banished through the dog one bench.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
But that's your guy.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You're making a big your big steak about like guy
said Field, Like I said, if I had to choose.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Either one of them, I'd rather neither.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But force with this decision, asparagus or broccoli, give me
the broccoli. That Justin Field, who's going to be the
starting quarterback on that team? Martin Wise, you can see
there all day and talk about what you want. I'm
asking you Justin Field, He's not going to be the
starting quarter Justin.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Field will be the Justin Field will start for games
this season, and Russell will.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Wantn't ask you that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Who's going to be the starting quarterback of this season?
Just staron Field is what I start the season? Justin Field.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I mean anybody who's the start of Week one? I'm
talking about, who's the start of all?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
He's going to be the starting quarterback when the season
starts on week with the starting quarter I'm asking Steelers
next year, then I'm asking you who's the starting quarterback
of the Pittsburgh year next year? Russell Wilson, stop it.
Russell will stop it. He's gonna play two years there.
Justin Fields is a turnover machine. That's why he's not
with the Bears. The players tried to convince us, oh,
don't trade Justin Field. Oh my god, look at Ormonds.
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Butthet you you didn't have anybody around them. They couldn't
get him out of town fast enough. They could not
get it and look like an opportunity to replace what
Steelers for him. Nobody wanted Justin Fields. Everybody needs a quarterback.
Half the league needs a quarterback. We got nothing for him, zero,
so they actually so actually that's not true, because they
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traded a sixth round pick that could turn it towards.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
For six round pick.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Remind me, Remind me of sixth round picking a franchise quarterback.
Remind me, though, what was the deal for Russell Wilson?
He comes with a big contract.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
What was it? What was the field? What was the
deal for Russell Wilson Field?
Speaker 9 (31:28):
I'm asking you what was the deal for Russell Wilson,
because I'll tell you what the deal was for Russell Wilson.
If you don't want to listen, I'll tell you what
it was. This is what it was. Anybody in the
NFL could have signed him. Anybody in the NFL could
have signed him. And the Pittsburgh Steelers are paying him
less than the Detroit Lions are playing Hendon Hooker right now.
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Anybody in the NFL because the massive bidding war for
Russell Wilson never happened.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
He got his money. He already got money.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
But I'm talking talking about what I'm saying, it's already paid.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 9 (32:03):
So he could have taken he could have taken more
money to go elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Why a team money that was already set there for
So would you rather have eighty six million dollars coming
to you or eighty nine million dollars coming to you.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
That's why what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'm talking about that nobody else in the NFL wanted
to offer Russell Wilson a contract of note, which is
why the Pittsburgh Steelers are paying him less than half
the backups in the NFL. This, Yeah, but nobody would
have to nobody in their right mind why he already
he's getting his money because if there was, because if
there was a bidding war for his services, bidding war,
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if there was a bidding war for his services, right,
if people actually had to give anything up for him,
no one was willing to do it.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
The New York Giants were not willing to do it.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
What's the age difference between Russell Wilson and your guy
Justin Fields?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Your messiah?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
At least eleven years? But I'm not saying that Field
just you keep you keep, No, he just Fields. I'm
not saying. I have never once said that. When I'm
telling you, they couldn't even get for a young player
who still hasn't even scratched the surface. Probably got more there, right, maybe,
but nobody wanted to take a flyer on a young
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quarterback who is supposed to be a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
They got a sixth round draft pick. Yes, sixth round
picks start in this league all the time. It's a
sixth round pick that could turn into a fourthron pick
depending on how much he plays.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
That is a tangible item, that is a thing. That
is a thing. You can't just poo pull a sixth
round pick.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
You know, the Chicago Mayor drafted the next time Brady
with that sixth round.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And here's the other reason why you already know why
teams wouldn't do that, because it's the offsetting contract, and
no team is gonna help the Bronco. So if you
sign him, the more money, that's gonna offset the money
from the Bronco. So you're not gonna help the Bronco.
Who cares about helping the Broncos? About upping your smell,
you don't, You don't do it. That's the problem with
his Tyana Falcons Russell Wilson, who was a healthy at
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the end of the year and said, you know what,
Kirk Cousins, I'd rather give you one hundred million dollars
guaranteed third a year older with no achilles Tendon. He
was a free agent, though, what are you talking about?
Russell Wilson was a free agent to me what he
got nobody had money coming to him. Oh what, No,
there's a big difference. No, that's a big there's an
off setting contract. Sure, but you can't pull the off
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setting contract.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yes, I can't.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You can't reason why it's eighty five million coming from
Denver is because the Pittsburgh Steelers were the only team
willing to offer him any money, and the only money
they were willing to offer was just over a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
So why did they just go after Justin Fields? Was
available before Russell Wilson? He was, he was, he wasn't.
He was available fundamentally, That's not.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Why. Because we were going to take Caleb Williams. Everybody
in Chicago knew it.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
But he wasn't. Why wasn't he.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
Available, Mark, because what Russell Wilson got bench the season
was still going on to Justin Fields to the start quarterback.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
No, but I'm talking about what in the off season.
Speaker 9 (35:02):
In the off season, Russell Wilson was the most available
free agent that possibly could have been. And I tell
you're not a win. Eighty six million that ain't that
ain't a free agent. You're trying to act like.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
That changing the definition. It's not making any less true.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yes, because of Russell Wilson was released by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Why he was released because they couldn't find a trade
partner after he was going to trade.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
No would they do that? Why would anybody in their
right mind? Nobody wanted him?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Okay, nobody saw he's at the Pittsburgh Steelers as a
starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
He should it be? No, but he is. That's the point.
But what what you want?
Speaker 5 (35:35):
You?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Starting quarters?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
August twelve? Nobody wanted him? But the Pittsburgh Steelers went
now made a miss starting quarterback?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Correct? I went out and he did they? Yes or no?
Answer the question? No, they didn't? They did? They did it.
Speaker 9 (35:46):
Week one has not happened yet. There is no starting
quarterback for the time. Russell Wilson is number one of
the depth chart in August. Sam Darnold's number one of
the depth tart. Right now, do you think j. J.
McCarthy's not gonna get snaps like this?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
What are you talking like? Jason? Maybe the whole we
haven't seen JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
We have seen Justin Fields and seeing the turnovers Martin,
We've seen.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
We've seen it. That's the contract for a backup DA.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
That's why nobody, that's why nobody wanted Justin Field. Nobody
went out explain Russell Wilson. No, but, but, but there's
a difference between the two. One guys an older quarterback
at the back end of his career. Justin Fields, a
young guy would maybe potential. Everybody's looking for a quarterback.
The problem is the only time we watch highlights is
of him running around, not throwing the football. That's why
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people haven't bought into him.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
Whoa Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos bought eighty five
million dollars into the idea that Russell Wilson Key Carr
would stop working at the Denver Broncos and the rest
of the league could have gotten him for that same number.
The rest of the league could have gotten it for
that same contract. All these different quarterback scenarios could have gotten for.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
They don't make any said, nobody's gonna go out and
give him eighty five million.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
How about this? How about this? How about they go
out and give him three million. You don't have to
do that. How about you go and give him three million.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (37:05):
Nobody wanted to even triple what the Steelers were willing
to pay, which was just over a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Nobody will you.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
He's gonna get eighty five. Why do I need to
give him any money? Because you need to start a quarterbacks.
The Steelers needed a starting quarterback and they got us.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
So did the Giants. Okay, what did the Giants do?
The guy? Giants got a guy on the hook. That's
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
The Giants have been making mistakes when they signed Daniel
Jones to forty million dollars, and then they're gonna make
another mistake by by going ahead and trying to prove
that Daniel joneses that got
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the Best of The Odd Couple with
Chris Bruson and Rob Harker.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm always one of those guys that get people worked
up because I give him a different slant on stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I didn't trash Steph Curry.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And say he was garbage or his performance in the
gold medal game was terrible or whatever. He made those
four to threes at the end, I simply stated fact.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Facts factz.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Where I went to school, That's how we spelled facts, Okay,
And guys like Gilbert I, Reeniz and Doug Gottlieb all
got their panties in a bunch because they don't know
what the definition of clutch is. You look at the
shots he made and I said they were big shots. Brian, No,
they were big shots, right. But it's not about this
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isn't Rob a pedia. This is the NBA, they deem
what is a clutch shot? Their own definition?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Are you ready, Brian, I'm ready for it. Yeah, hit
me with it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
The NBA defines clutch as under five minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Score within five.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Only one of those three pointers fit that category.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The other three they were.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Up by six, you know what I mean, Like it
was a big shot.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But clutch to me.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Is Aaron Judge hitting a two run home run in
the bottom of the ninth when you're down by one.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That's clutch tying the game.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Ray Allen for the Miami Heat right when he tied
the game, because sending an overtime, that's a clutch shot.
That's all I'm saying. People are so defensive. If you
say anything against Steph. I've talked to plenty of NBA players.
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I say, if you only had a chance to get well,
you know, you have to get one basket to win
the game, who would you give the ball to. Nobody
picks Steph? Nobody And the numbers, Brian are very obvious.
He's oh for fourteen in the final fifty seconds with
a chance to tie or put his team ahead. Oh
for fourteen in the postseason. I'm not talking about regular
(02:48):
season games.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
In there. I'm talking about postseason.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It's hard for me to look at a guy and
call him clutch or the greatest shooter of all time
when he hasn't made those baskets. Does he have to
be fourteen for fourteen? No, but oh for fourteen is
pretty small. It tells me when the moment's big and
the lights are bright, like a hamburger on one of
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those fast food restaurants with the lamp on it or whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
He wilts or he doesn't come through. That's all man.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Okay, Rob, So here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I'll give you credit because you have found a technicality
in the ointment. I don't know if that's a new
technicality in the ointment, right, number flies, we have technicalities
in the ointment because yes, if we're talking about the
actual definition, yeah, only one of those shots were deemed
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clutch right where we're talking about under five minutes, score
within five points. Only one of those four to three
pointers by Steph at the end against France was a
quote unquote clutch shot. So like, there's no arguing with that.
And you said at the very beginning, and this was
an important point by you, you said those were big shots.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm not trying to belittle them or say like he
didn't do anything. They're big shots, Brian, I would be
lying if I Sandy weren't big shots. You know, to
make a six point game a nine point game and
at that time I get it.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yeah, And that last three while doubled and fading away
was just insane. So to string four of those together
in a row and the French commentators are calling him
the devil, you know, like that was pretty special, man.
That was a signature moment the night night, the whole thing.
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That was Steph Curry on the heels of what he
did against Serbia. Thirty six points and nine three pointers.
He was sensational the last two games. But that's the thing, Rob,
I feel like, this is the difference between reading the
the headline and then reading the column. Like your headline
of Steph Curry's shots weren't clutch, It's like, what what
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what are you talking about? And then you read the
column and you're like, I see what you're saying, And
technically only one of those shots was the definition of clutch.
You're not wrong with the argument, but the headline catches
your attention and people assume you're saying something that you're not.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right And it ain't even my definition, Brian, you know,
like that's the big thing. That's what the NBA in
their own bylaws or rules or whatever, what they consider clutch.
That that that's what it is. I always say that,
even Brian. I'll look at shots. Okay, if the game
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is tied, you have the ball right, the clock is
running down, that's not a clutch shot to me. And
I'm gonna tell you, because you don't lose, there's no
pressure on you.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know, make or miss. We're going to overtime. Am
I right?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Like, Like I'm not saying that it's not a difficult
shot or a great shot if you can make it,
but it ain't the same when you're down a point
and if you miss, the game is over or your
team's out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I don't care what anybody says. It ain't the same shot.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
It would be like, let's throw it to football. The
first thing that came to my mind was when the
Giants were facing the undefeated Patriots and they're down by
four points. That has to be a touchdown drive. That's
the only way playing it simple, right, right, So if
you're talking about hey, we're down by one, we're down
by two.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
You mentioned the Ray Allen shot. If he misses that
finals over.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And maybe changes Lebron's whole legacy, right, I mean, that's
how big that shot was.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
It's a different type of pressure if you're even and
this is a last second shot, buzzer beater. I still
think there's pressure with that, But to your point, it's
not the same pressure as do or die, like you
gotta make this or the dream is dead.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
No, it's a it's a it's a big shot. I'm
not saying like even when Kyrie made the three to
beat the Warriors, the score was tied, it's a big shot,
great comeback.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
No team had ever come back.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
From a three to one deficit, like a lot of
things there on the road Game seven. But but it
was a big shot. It was it was a big shot.
There was no doubt about it. So I'm not saying
they weren't big shots. You just talked about it was
a moment in Steph's career. But all these guys who
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get worked up and think like I'm the anti and
the anti Christ, and I hate Steph Curry, Like I
don't know Steph Curry. I have no reason to hate
Steph Curry. Everything this guy exudes is positive.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
It's fun. What is there to hate about Steph Curry.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Everybody doesn't have to be on the Steph Curry bandwagon
for it to be you know what I mean, for
people to feel good about themselves. I'm just telling you
when you talk about calling somebody the greatest of all time,
and I brought up his name a million times, right,
Marvel Levy, the coach at the Buffalo Bills. Do you
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know why he's never mentioned in the conversation of greatest
coaches of all time?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Because the years oh for four in the Super Bowl
he never won.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, I mean like that, And that's the reason we
know he was a great coach, don't we.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But nobody will consider him the.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Greatest coach of all time because when it really mattered,
nobody said, well he wants to he won the AFC.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Four years in a row.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
No, when it really mattered, his team lost, and so
people say, here, he had a really good career or whatever,
But nobody is going to put him in that category
because it's about that. It's not about getting to the
front door of the Playboy mansion.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's about getting in, Brian No I won in.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, no, I hear.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I just love that some people go straight to calling
you the anti Christ's totally my goodness, gracious, but yeah, listen,
I think it's important for people to understand you're not
saying these weren't big shots. You aren't saying he didn't
come up huge in the last two games, which he did.
You go back to the game against Serbia. The biggest,
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little uh, the biggest sequence in that game, Serbia was
up by two and they had a wide open three
point shot and they missed it.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
They could have gone up by five, and.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Who hit the three to take the lead, Steph Curry
with just over a couple of minutes to go. Huge shot,
clutch shot there by definition. But yeah, when you're talking
about this with France, those were signature moments for Steph
in those two games. And I love, man, I love
how you see these these cracks, these little openings, you know,
to needle and and.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You're technically right, it's the beauty of the.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Whole thing technically, except when it comes to Gilberto Renas.
I guess, my new arch enemy, I guess, But check out,
Gilbert Reena is trying to create his own definition of clutch.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Listen to this.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I think it's how Steph got the gold is more
important than just the metal itself.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Right.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
He showed on the highest level he's clutch, right, and.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Not the media's version of clutch.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Not the media's.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Version of you know, hitting shots with three seconds left
and you know, whatever metrics that they came up with
to make themselves sound smarter.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Not that clutch.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Basketball clutch right where we're in the middle of a
back and forth. Every shot I take now is pressured, right.
Every shot you take now, you're trying to win, and
I'm trying to keep you at bay. So every shot
those last four shots were pressure shots.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Because if he misses them, it's a different.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Game, right, And people don't understand, Like if you never
played the game, you don't understand what real, what real
clutch is. Yeah, the moment in time, every shot he
took was a shot to seal it, put it away,
keep him at bay, right, And that's what that moment was.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't know Rob so he came up with that's
I guess that's basketball clutch. And I guess the people
at the NBA who wrote the what a clutch shot
is I guess they don't know basketball, and that's always
the crutch for all these guys.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
You put a.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Microphone in front of them and they're going to tell you, right,
some other story different from others. I'm sorry, Yes, I
didn't play in the NBA. But guess what, Gilbert Areena is.
You didn't go to journalism school, you didn't graduate from Columbia,
you have a podcast, you're not on a radio network
on four hundreds stations around the country, whatever it is.
(12:03):
But you can make up basketball clutch and talk about
a shot in the first half and say that was
a clutch shot when the NBA itself deemed it in
the last five minutes.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Not Rob Parker. So he says, Oh, if you haven't played.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, you came up with the NBA, not Rob Parker.
Go look it up, Gilbert Ritas the NBA has defined.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What clutch is.
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Speaker 1 (13:22):
Carmelo Anthony what on a podcast and said that a
gold medal to him is bigger than winning an NBA
Finals title.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Let's listen. Would you trade your feelanth the gold medals
for one NBA ringer. I've never been asked that question.
Speaker 8 (13:41):
No, when we talk about the global sport, for me,
a medal means something totally different than an NBA championship.
They both have their own separate meanings. But winning a
gold medal, it's the passion, it's the pride that you have,
not just for a city or a state, for a whole.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Nations, for whole country. You'll win it for it.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
So it's a different level of I would say pride
that you have to have when you're wearing USA across
the chess or you're wearing Lithuania across your chess. Right,
it's a totally different feeling than Knicks New York across
your chess.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Sorry, Carmelo not buying it, No way, no how, Brian,
And I'm not unpatriotic, and I get it you're wearing
the red, white and blue, and oh you're on the
world stage.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I'm sorry. If I'm an NBA player, winning an.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
NBA championship is numero uno the medal against a ton
of players who I.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Don't even know who they are, where they came from.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
How good the competition When you're in the NBA, those
are the four hundred best players in the world. I'm sorry.
And if you win a championship, just like when Carmelo
won the the college basketball Championship, right, he was tremendous.
You remember that, Brian. Now, yeah, Jim Beaheim should kiss
his butt every time he sees Carmelo Anthony. Otherwise, Jim
(15:10):
Behem would have coached for fifty years and never would
have won a championship. Carmelo was spectacular. People always remember
that and this notion that you covet the three medals
you won in the Olympics. And I'm not trying to
pooh pool them or discount them or mean that their
(15:30):
garbage or anything. But it was easy for him to
say that because he has the medals and he didn't
have the championship.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
That's right, right, Yeah, That's what it comes down to,
is this is a hypothetical question, and he gave a
hypothetical answer, right, Like, Rob, do you believe in your
heart of hearts, we're talking about American basketball here. If
this is Yokich and trading an NBA ring for a
gold medal, maybe I'll listen.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
To that argument. You know what, And I agree with you.
In those countries, it's totally different. They don't have a
league of the level I'm talking about, of the level
of the NBA where you consider it the best league.
Right yeah, just don't, right, I think Jokic, even the
Japanese players that come here, right.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, I think Jokic.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
If Jokic said, listen, I would trade my NBA ring
to win it.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I would fully believe that. Right, I'm with you on.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
That, But do you believe Mellow like if you could
actually do this, you could trade your three gold medals
for one NBA ring. If he could actually do that,
I think he would. I think he'd be out of
his mind not to do that, because the gold it
doesn't mean nearly as much for your individual legacy as
an NBA championship does, especially if it was what the.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Knicks Carl Mello Anthony was born in New York, grays
and Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But if you want to go back and win, I mean, look.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
At what doing with Jalen Bruns and he just didn't
even get out of second round. I know it making
it like like like he's the next coming of the Messiah.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
What they were doing a couple of years ago when
they beat the Hawks in the first round, they acted
like they won a championship. Then like if Melo was
the reason why they want to ring, Oh gosh.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
You know what. I still remember, uh Cecil Fielder.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
When he came to the Yankees in the trade and
they won the World Series in ninety six, and he
told me, he said, dude, he said, you know, winning
a World Series or whatever, and the way the people
responded to He said he couldn't go anywhere in New
York without people paying homage to him helping the Yankees
win a World Series in ninety six.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
He said, the most unbelieve.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He said, I don't care how I look, what I'm
doing or whatever. Somebody, he said, no matter where I went,
would stopped me and thanked me for winning a World
Series for the Yankees in ninety six.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Yeah, that's and I think could flip it around. Also, Rob,
what if let's say Mellow was a three time NBA
champion and he was on a podcast and he said, Hey,
you know the Olympics they're going on right now, would
you trade those three NBA rings for a single goal?
Hell no, you wouldn't even think twice about you.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
We wouldn't even think.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And I don't think it's I just don't think the
Olympics hold the same weight. And it doesn't mean that
it's meaningless or uh. There's certain events like like the
Women of Won. I know they had a nail bider
to win this past one right against France.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Is that who they be? But they've won eight straight
gold medals?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Is that is that I'm not really so that the
competition is that bad that that you can win eight
gold medals in a row.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I pooh pooh that. I don't think that there's much competition.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I would say an Olympics five in a row, right, Yeah,
that's right, an Olympic gold medal for an American basket right,
that's the And on your bullet point resume, they would
start with league MVP, you know, three time champion, like,
it would start with that fan MVP. Yeah, and medalist right,
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like the gold medal for a Team USA player is
the and it's not the headliner. It's NBA Championships MVPs
like those individual hons.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Then you would get to the gold.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Everybody knows Michael Jordan's six for six in the NBA finals,
that's what that's right.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Do you know how many gold medals does mj have?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Off the top of my head, I'm not sure, but
we know they know he won one six rings?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Did he go? Did he win two? Did he go? Twine?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
You could play that game like you could throw out
throw out current NBA players like how many rings does
this guy have? And you could just rattle them off,
how many rings does staff have for right, like you
just rattle them up? How many gold medals does KG have?
I have no idea. I don't know how many exacts.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
When I knew that the gold medal didn't have the
same meaning anymore? Is I had a gold medal, I
put it on the windshield of my car, went into
a restaurant, I came back out and there were three
gold medal thew I'm just.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Saying that should have been the follow up question for Mellow,
right is uh, would you give up that bronze for
an NBA ring?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Though?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Mellow would you do that? At least?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Can we get make that transaction?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I just I get it. I mean, if that's all
you have, you're gonna cover it. Right And Rob, listen,
I'm not mad at him. That's what he won, and
he's a tremendous player in the Olympics. He won three
gold medal I'm not mad. That's great and it's meaningful.
We're not saying it's meaning less. Like think about Lebron.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Lebron went to the women's gold medal game the day
after and he was wearing his gold medal. Rob, and
I thought that was all somebody look at that like
Lebron's looking for attention. It's a flex. But Rob he
had to work for that medal. He's earned a lot
of money in his in his time here on earth.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
He can't buy a gold medal.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
He couldn't buy a thirteen point comeback against Serbia. They
had to earn that gold medal and that means something
to him. And I think that's awesome. And we're not
saying a gold medal doesn't mean anything, but for an
individual legacy, it doesn't mean nearly as much for an
American as an NBA championship doubts.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's just not even close. And again, I don't know,
rob G. Did you hear anymore of the podcast. Was
it a pushback at all? Because I know that's one
of my biggest issues with some of these podcasts is
no one, you know, they ask people a question, they
answer it, and there's no pushback, like like I would love.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
It's the barbershop thing, like you hate Lebron show because
there's no pushback.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Ever, I tell you all that the barbershop, I own
a barbershop for twenty two years, Brian.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
That's all the barbershop is is Puay exactly this push back.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You could come in with that shirt you have on,
that black shirt and somebody would say that's brown. That's
not black, right, that's what they say. In the barbershop,
that ain't black brown? What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Like, they don't.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Agree on anything, and in the lebron shop they all
second everything he says.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Everybody agree with Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Maybe that's why you wouldn't get him on the podcast
in the first place.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
A lot of the athletes just don't want pushback or
the yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
But you cheat the listener and that's all just a question.
You don't have to attack him. Really, mellow, you were
born in New York and you wouldn't want to help
the Knicks win their first championship since nineteen seventy three?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Do you know how you would be elevated?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Like I get the Olympics and all these other players
who played, but if you were to reason the Knicks
won a championship, you don't think that would put you
on a plateau like someb of the go. Joe Namanth
played football in the sixties for the Jets. He's an
icon there, right, That's the last time the Jets one
assumed he's an icon.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Mellow would be a made man, There's no doubt about it.
You know, and that city, Rob, we're talking of all
the major sports combined.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It's been over one hundred.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Seasons since New York has had a championship, right then
the Knicks have contributed to that, as.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
We all know, that's an unbelievable number. It really is.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
So yeah, not just for that city also, you know,
to have a championship again would be huge.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
This was an underrated part of that same interview.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Rob is normally I tuned this stuff out when you hey,
who's your starting five?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
All time?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Normally I don't care at all, right, but I thought
this was kind of interesting. He was asked in that
same podcast, who is all time Olympics starting five would be?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
And Melo said Lebron, James, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant, Charles Barkley,
I haven't heard Michael Jordan yet, and himself.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
What what?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
No, Michael nov j or Jordan?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
No? Is that unbelievable? There you go, and of course
the interviewers, Oh, that's a great.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, that's a great.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I agree, that's funny. I had the same thing.
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Speaker 1 (24:36):
Preseason games are underway, as we know, not very exciting
for the most part, but they are. You know, you
gotta get the work in. Justin Fields had a pretty
pretty good start there for the Steelers, except for he
had a couple of fumbles which didn't go over well
with his coach. Can't turn the ball over, you know
that he's a big turnover machine. But anyway, Justin Fields,
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Russell Wilson both there. People thought it's gonna be all
about Russell Wilson, and then all of a sudden they
make a trade. They get Justin Fields for nothing, absolutely nothing.
But he's on the team. He's a young guy, got
a lot of ups start, and Martin Weis thinks he
should be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
You're all in on Justin Field?
Speaker 9 (25:15):
Yeah, I mean, well, to say I'm all in makes
it seem like I'm betting that it'll work. But if
you have the options though, I mean, let's be honest,
neither one of these are great options, right, Like have
an asparagus or broccoli you know both neither Your third
grade is not gonna like either one. But if I
had to make the choice between these two guys, like
the Steelers have to do to me, the answer is
clearly far and away Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
If for no other.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
Reason, he's younger, he's more athletic, and if he hits,
you have a franchise quarterback. Russell Wilson can go out
there and play the season of his life, his best
season he's ever played. And you know you got that
most two more seasons out of them, three more.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Seasons out of them. Justin Field's go out there and
you figure.
Speaker 9 (25:56):
Out a way to tap into some of the potential
that everybody saw leading up at his draft or leading
up into his draft class where he was picked, then
you actually have a shot to have a guy for
the next five six.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Years that can lead your team.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And when you look at a guy like Justin Fields,
no one is saying, look, especially with what the Steelers
are trying to do.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You go with Arthur Smith. He's gonna want to run
the ball.
Speaker 9 (26:17):
It's gonna be a lot of playoffs, it's gonna be
a lot of bootlegs, it's gonna be a lot of
things where it really helps to have athletic quarterback, and
Russell Wilson just strains his cap pushing the tackling sled.
Should he have been pushing a tackling sled. Of course not,
he's a quarterback. When's the last time he saw Russell
Wilson on the lead block. I'll answer for you it's never.
But the reality of the situation is we look at
Russell Wilson and he graduated from high school the same year.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I ain't got no business being an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
Honestly, if you look at the last two seasons he
had in Denver, he don't look like he had any
business being a.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
NFL played pretty well, ye play, he played so well
that Sean Payton, a guy who knows hated him before
he got before quarterbacks, he's won one super Bowl with
all fame quarterback. No he had, Sean Payton, No nothing
about quarterback. I have four losing seasons Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
So you know you're telling me Sean Payton is not
it's not a good quarterbacking valuation.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
All I'm telling you is that you're giving him way
too much credit. And what he did to Russell Wilson
was ridiculous, unprofessional, and he hated him.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
From the minute he walked in the door. He played
well last year.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
Stop stop, no, Russell Wilson, He's good under what metrics?
Besides he played in the ratio? Did he played well
last year? Was trying not to know the idea that
Russell Wilson played well? First of all, it's the fallacy.
But I'm gonna leave that there. You're telling me that
Sean payton't know what he's doing when he come quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
No, I just told you.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
They have four losing seasons with with a a what
a Hall of Fame quarterback? Didn't they They were seven
and nine like four years they won one Super Bowl
under that everybody. Everybody says, Mike McCarthy's no good. Mike
McCarthy and Sean Payton. Go look at their They're identical
there the records. Almost I did.
Speaker 9 (27:59):
Never said a guy who won thirty six games in
the last three years is no good.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
But a lot said a lot of people don't respect
Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
I respect both, okay, they both know and you look
at Mike McCarthy with Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott was running
up for m VP this year. I think he knows
the thing or two about quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Runner up and he only got was there was no
one first place vote?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Is that it? Would you call that runner? Yeah? That's
why would you come in second? You're the runner around?
I don't think it's a real runner up when the
other guy got almost all white.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
Literally by definition mifter, the definition of clutches day. If
you're coming second, you're the runner up. All right, that's
just the way it works. If we can establish that
fact that maybe.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We can told you a million times Loud doesn't make
you right, but quiet doesn't make your right either.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Sean Payton was so ready to move on from Russell
Wilson he spent eighty five million dollars to send him away,
to send him away, like right, Like what more do
you need?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Like that is it? People make mistakes? Do front office
people make mistakes on people?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
The mistake was trading for Russell Wilson. No mistake was
here's the thing you're fanning all over justin Fields? Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Since joining the league in twenty twenty one, Fields is
last among thirty eight qualified quarterbacks and fourth quarter interceptions.
That's sixteen thirty six in completion percentage fifty six point
two and thirty third in quarterback. When this is the
guy you got your panties in a bunch over last season.
Through Week seventeen before players started the rest for Week eighteen,
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Fields ranked last in the NFL and fourth quarter completion
percentage fifty one point eight, twenty fifth in.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yards per ten five point nine.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Tied for twenty ninth, and fourth quarter interception six and
thirtieth in QBR twenty point four.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Was that that's your guy? Who was that about week seven?
That's your guy?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh wait, justin Field, that's your guying in week seventeen.
That's Russell Wilson was banished through the dog one bench.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
But that's your guy.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You're making a big your big steak about like guy
said Field, Like I said, if I had to choose.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Either one of them, I'd rather neither.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But force with this decision, asparagus or broccoli, give me
the broccoli. That Justin Field, who's going to be the
starting quarterback on that team? Martin Wise, you can see
there all day and talk about what you want. I'm
asking you Justin Field, He's not going to be the
starting quarter Justin.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Field will be the Justin Field will start for games
this season, and Russell will.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Wantn't ask you that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Who's going to be the starting quarterback of this season?
Just staron Field is what I start the season? Justin Field.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I mean anybody who's the start of Week one? I'm
talking about, who's the start of all?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
He's going to be the starting quarterback when the season
starts on week with the starting quarter I'm asking Steelers
next year, then I'm asking you who's the starting quarterback
of the Pittsburgh year next year? Russell Wilson, stop it.
Russell will stop it. He's gonna play two years there.
Justin Fields is a turnover machine. That's why he's not
with the Bears. The players tried to convince us, oh,
don't trade Justin Field. Oh my god, look at Ormonds.
(30:50):
Butthet you you didn't have anybody around them. They couldn't
get him out of town fast enough. They could not
get it and look like an opportunity to replace what
Steelers for him. Nobody wanted Justin Fields. Everybody needs a quarterback.
Half the league needs a quarterback. We got nothing for him, zero,
so they actually so actually that's not true, because they
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traded a sixth round pick that could turn it towards.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
For six round pick.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Remind me, Remind me of sixth round picking a franchise quarterback.
Remind me, though, what was the deal for Russell Wilson?
He comes with a big contract.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
What was it? What was the field? What was the
deal for Russell Wilson Field?
Speaker 9 (31:28):
I'm asking you what was the deal for Russell Wilson,
because I'll tell you what the deal was for Russell Wilson.
If you don't want to listen, I'll tell you what
it was. This is what it was. Anybody in the
NFL could have signed him. Anybody in the NFL could
have signed him. And the Pittsburgh Steelers are paying him
less than the Detroit Lions are playing Hendon Hooker right now.
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Anybody in the NFL because the massive bidding war for
Russell Wilson never happened.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
He got his money. He already got money.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
But I'm talking talking about what I'm saying, it's already paid.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 9 (32:03):
So he could have taken he could have taken more
money to go elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Why a team money that was already set there for
So would you rather have eighty six million dollars coming
to you or eighty nine million dollars coming to you.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
That's why what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'm talking about that nobody else in the NFL wanted
to offer Russell Wilson a contract of note, which is
why the Pittsburgh Steelers are paying him less than half
the backups in the NFL. This, Yeah, but nobody would
have to nobody in their right mind why he already
he's getting his money because if there was, because if
there was a bidding war for his services, bidding war,
(32:38):
if there was a bidding war for his services, right,
if people actually had to give anything up for him,
no one was willing to do it.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
The New York Giants were not willing to do it.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
What's the age difference between Russell Wilson and your guy
Justin Fields?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Your messiah?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
At least eleven years? But I'm not saying that Field
just you keep you keep, No, he just Fields. I'm
not saying. I have never once said that. When I'm
telling you, they couldn't even get for a young player
who still hasn't even scratched the surface. Probably got more there, right, maybe,
but nobody wanted to take a flyer on a young
(33:13):
quarterback who is supposed to be a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
They got a sixth round draft pick. Yes, sixth round
picks start in this league all the time. It's a
sixth round pick that could turn into a fourthron pick
depending on how much he plays.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
That is a tangible item, that is a thing. That
is a thing. You can't just poo pull a sixth
round pick.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
You know, the Chicago Mayor drafted the next time Brady
with that sixth round.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And here's the other reason why you already know why
teams wouldn't do that, because it's the offsetting contract, and
no team is gonna help the Bronco. So if you
sign him, the more money, that's gonna offset the money
from the Bronco. So you're not gonna help the Bronco.
Who cares about helping the Broncos? About upping your smell,
you don't, You don't do it. That's the problem with
his Tyana Falcons Russell Wilson, who was a healthy at
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the end of the year and said, you know what,
Kirk Cousins, I'd rather give you one hundred million dollars
guaranteed third a year older with no achilles Tendon. He
was a free agent, though, what are you talking about?
Russell Wilson was a free agent to me what he
got nobody had money coming to him. Oh what, No,
there's a big difference. No, that's a big there's an
off setting contract. Sure, but you can't pull the off
(34:23):
setting contract.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yes, I can't.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You can't reason why it's eighty five million coming from
Denver is because the Pittsburgh Steelers were the only team
willing to offer him any money, and the only money
they were willing to offer was just over a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
So why did they just go after Justin Fields? Was
available before Russell Wilson? He was, he was, he wasn't.
He was available fundamentally, That's not.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Why. Because we were going to take Caleb Williams. Everybody
in Chicago knew it.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
But he wasn't. Why wasn't he.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
Available, Mark, because what Russell Wilson got bench the season
was still going on to Justin Fields to the start quarterback.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
No, but I'm talking about what in the off season.
Speaker 9 (35:02):
In the off season, Russell Wilson was the most available
free agent that possibly could have been. And I tell
you're not a win. Eighty six million that ain't that
ain't a free agent. You're trying to act like.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
That changing the definition. It's not making any less true.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yes, because of Russell Wilson was released by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Why he was released because they couldn't find a trade
partner after he was going to trade.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
No would they do that? Why would anybody in their
right mind? Nobody wanted him?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Okay, nobody saw he's at the Pittsburgh Steelers as a
starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
He should it be? No, but he is. That's the point.
But what what you want?
Speaker 5 (35:35):
You?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Starting quarters?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
August twelve? Nobody wanted him? But the Pittsburgh Steelers went
now made a miss starting quarterback?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Correct? I went out and he did they? Yes or no?
Answer the question? No, they didn't? They did? They did it.
Speaker 9 (35:46):
Week one has not happened yet. There is no starting
quarterback for the time. Russell Wilson is number one of
the depth chart in August. Sam Darnold's number one of
the depth tart. Right now, do you think j. J.
McCarthy's not gonna get snaps like this?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
What are you talking like? Jason? Maybe the whole we
haven't seen JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
We have seen Justin Fields and seeing the turnovers Martin,
We've seen.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
We've seen it. That's the contract for a backup DA.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
That's why nobody, that's why nobody wanted Justin Field. Nobody
went out explain Russell Wilson. No, but, but, but there's
a difference between the two. One guys an older quarterback
at the back end of his career. Justin Fields, a
young guy would maybe potential. Everybody's looking for a quarterback.
The problem is the only time we watch highlights is
of him running around, not throwing the football. That's why
(36:33):
people haven't bought into him.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
Whoa Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos bought eighty five
million dollars into the idea that Russell Wilson Key Carr
would stop working at the Denver Broncos and the rest
of the league could have gotten him for that same number.
The rest of the league could have gotten it for
that same contract. All these different quarterback scenarios could have gotten for.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
They don't make any said, nobody's gonna go out and
give him eighty five million.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
How about this? How about this? How about they go
out and give him three million. You don't have to
do that. How about you go and give him three million.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (37:05):
Nobody wanted to even triple what the Steelers were willing
to pay, which was just over a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Nobody will you.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
He's gonna get eighty five. Why do I need to
give him any money? Because you need to start a quarterbacks.
The Steelers needed a starting quarterback and they got us.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
So did the Giants. Okay, what did the Giants do?
The guy? Giants got a guy on the hook. That's
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
The Giants have been making mistakes when they signed Daniel
Jones to forty million dollars, and then they're gonna make
another mistake by by going ahead and trying to prove
that Daniel joneses that got
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