August 21, 2024 • 37 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Aaron Torres is in for Chris, and he and Rob tell us why they disagree with Tom Brady’s sentiment that rookie quarterbacks shouldn’t be starting week 1 in the NFL, explain why they have a big problem with the victimhood mentality across the WNBA right now, discuss the Detroit Tigers’ plan to deprive Tarik Skubal a chance at winning the pitching Triple Crown and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets.
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yo yo yo yo yi yea welcome in. It is
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I don't even know? It's a worship Wednesday? Am I right? Yeah,
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Speaker 3 (01:13):
And what a show we have for you today. But first,
let me welcome in.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
My co host for today, filling in for mister Chris Brussard,
Mister Aaron Torres.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
What's up, Aaron Rob Parker? My man, you I'm great.
I was on a few weeks with you, a few
weeks ago with you had a blast then, no, we'll
have a blast now. And you know, just genuinely always
appreciate you having me on this show and excited to
talk to you these next couple.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Hours, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Always fun, a lot of good stuff to get to,
so I'm looking forward to it and coming up in
our number two. Tim Brando, college football guy right Fox
Sports college football broadcaster. He's coming up in the second hour.
Also foul Affair with JR. Gamble from mlbbro dot Com.
That's an our number three. So a really really good
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show on this Worship Wednesday. But excuse me eron first,
let's welcome in the odd couple Coup because we wouldn't
be able to do this fine radio program without him.
Let's start off with our super producer, Rob G. Back
from vacation, Rob G.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (02:21):
I am doing better now I'm here with you, Rob Parker.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
No doubt, my man, I appreciate it. I hope you
got some rest and relaxation and you're ready to go.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
You know it?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
All right, let's do that, all right. Also, Brian Finley,
who was at the anchor desk. He'll keep us updated
throughout the program, and you know, Brian's newly married now
and everything. Just got back from the honeymoon and all that,
so he's in a different light.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
We were seeing him, you know, we were sharing honeymoon tips.
He went, he went to Hawaii. I went to Hawaii
many years ago. As a matter of fact, I was
looking through old pictures, my wedding introvert well, my honeymoon anniversary.
We left August twentieth, twenty nineteen, so we were in
Hawaii five years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Brian of course recently married, and not to give away
too much, but it looked like he had a good trip.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
The only problem was when he went to take a nap.
I think somebody put a he was in his bathing suit.
He went to take a nap, somebody put an apple
in his mouth, so I think that.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Sorry, Brian, oh Rob, sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Of course, Elijah is on this social media social media,
and guess who's.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
On the ones and twos. It's Mary Mary. There you go,
Mary Mary. So there we go. Let's get it started.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Mister Aaron Torres and the Denver Broncos have named boat
Knicks starting QB and they're ready for the bo Knicks era.
The first top draft pick quarterback to start since John Elway.
John Elway had an unbelievable career in Denver, went to
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all those Super Bowls, won his last two before he retired.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So John Elway bow.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Knicks John Elway esque. But this was interesting, and I
don't know if you've seen this. Tom Brady kind of said,
this isn't his NFL anymore already, he's kind of down
on the idea.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Of the league.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Baby, and these guys to allow rookie quarterbacks to start.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Bow Knicks has won.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I think they're gonna be I believe Rob g three
rookie quarterbacks who were starting this year?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Is that the number?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
So yeah, Aaron and Tom Brady basically said the league
is dumbed down the sport in order for this to happen.
Let's listen to mister Tom Brady from Fox Sports.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
I might add I had to learn from being seventh
quarterback on the depth chart to moving up the third
to ultimately being a starter. I had to learn all
those things, and college that was development. Then I went
to New England and I was developed by coach Belichick
and the offensive staff there.
Speaker 8 (05:07):
I didn't start my first year.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
I think it's just a tragedy that we're forcing these
rookies to play early. But the reality is the only
reason why that is because we dumb the game down,
which has allowed them to play. It used to be
thought of at a higher level. We used to spend
hours and hours in the offseason in training camp trying
to be a little bit better than next year. But
I think what happens is discourages the coaches from going
to deep levels because they realize the players don't have
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the opportunity to go to a deep level, so they're
just gonna teach them where they're at.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Aaron will let you start on that. Where are you
on Tom Brady? And the dumbing down of the game.
We have seen some teams like Aaron Rodgers didn't play
for more than three years, Jordan Love didn't play for
three years. You know, like there were some teams that
have bucked that trend. But I think with a short
lea showing coaches and players, you know, they're not bringing
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these guys in, gonna let them sit. The coach might
not even be there by the time they get in.
You know, everything is instant gratification.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Where are you?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
So?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I think two things are true. One listen. I think
any rookie quarterback would prefer if they didn't have to
be I I don't know if the player would, but
I think certainly the coaching staff would. Whatever that you
you wouldn't have to be thrown into the fire. But
the sport evolves, things evolve, and things change, and such.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
A Mahomes didn't start his first year when he got
there exactly.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
And so in a perfect world, yes, you have a
setup where you have a Hall of Fame coach with
a veteran quarterback and you can take a guy and
you can bring him along slowly. That's just not realistic.
It's just not realistic. And I just think it's the
evolution of the game. I think there's things across all
sports rob that we like, that we don't like, but
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that we have to accept it just it is what
it is. And the track record over the last whatever
it is, six seven, eight years is you get quarterbacks.
If you're drafting them, especially in that first half of
the first round, they're probably going to have to play
right away. And as a matter of fact, drop where
I would actually push back on Tom Brady and you know,
I know the guy knows more football than me. But
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isn't coaching. Isn't being a good coach building whatever it is,
a game plan, whatever, around your players' strengths and weaknesses.
Isn't that good coaching? Not throwing the entire playbook at
a guy if he isn't ready and you know you
have to play him. So I look at it as yes,
I think in a perfect world we'd go back to
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nineteen eighty nine and everybody would get a year or
two to learn the playbook, take their time, whatever. But
that's just not realistic. I don't blame the players, I
don't blame the organizations. And I actually think it's good
coaching to dumb things down a little bit, to put
your player in the best position to succeed as possible,
No doubt that.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Is that is coaching. You know, everybody's different. You want
to put him in.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You don't want to put a guy in a spot
that he's going to get blown up in and and
not be able to succeed. So that makes sense, And
I guess it's just weird, and I get it. Everybody's
not Tom Brady. Everybody's not a what was his sixth
round draft choice?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Right?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Most people aren't in that camp, and they're just high
stakes in the NFL. Now, I think that we talked
about Aaron, coaches don't have a five year plan. Do
you remember those days when they used to talk about, oh, yeah,
this is a five year and five years will.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Be five years five years.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Sure, no way are they waiting around for five years
to see if things are going to turn around.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Guys don't play.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Well, they're already looking for somebody else, a coach. You
have a couple of bad years, Uh, they're looking for
another coach. If you're not part of the solution, you're
part of the problem. And it's just there's no patience
in sports for anybody.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
No, there isn't. And you know, but I also think, again,
this is to me. To me, this is the evolution
of the sport. And the other thing I would push
back on a little bit is I know that Brady
wasn't necessarily specifically talking about bo Nicks, but you look
at the three rookie quarterbacks that are set to start
this year. Listen, Caleb Williams. People believe to be a
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generational type talent, and for the most part, it doesn't
matter what era you're in. If you're going number one overall,
you're gonna start right away. By the way, Bo Nicks
first rookie since John Lway to start. John Elway was
pretty good, right, so it has happened before. But then
you look at the other two guys. You know, Bo
Knicks is twenty four years old, played five years of
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college football, four offensive coordinators. Jaden Daniels himself played five
years of college football. He is twenty three, he will
soon be twenty four. So this isn't somebody being handed something.
You know, listen, only time will tell if they're ready
for it. But this isn't, you know, some some twenty
year old Anthony Richardson type situation that the guy only had,
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you know, six career starts or whatever it was. These
three guys are all multi year starters. They're experienced. I'm
not smart enough to know the x's and o's of
how much it's being dumb down, but I think all
three of these guys are experienced, they're veteran, and I think, frankly,
I think all three of them they're starting because they're
their team's best option. And isn't that what, like what
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did her Edwards say? You play to win the game?
And those three guys specifically give their individual teams the
best chance to actually win.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Here's my onny thing is, and I think where Brady
you could have a swing and miss is.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Most of his argument makes sense.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
In a perfect world, right, But the other problem is
if you have a prodigy.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I don't think a prodigy should be held back. You know,
like if.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
There's somebody Joe Burrow right when he came to the Bengals,
was you could tell right away that this guy right
was something special, got the team get hurt his first year,
only played seven or eight games, and the next year
took his team to.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
The Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Sure, so when you have a prodigy, I don't believe
in telling somebody, well, you have to sit in regardless.
You know, in the old college basketball, when Kareem abdul
Jabbar played freshman, didn't play for sure. Can you imagine
a coach looking at Kareem abdul Jabbar and said, well,
you're a front I don't care if you're seven foot
tall and nobody can defend you. You have to sit
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or play with JV. You can't play on the varsity
because that's the rule. Like that's silly. Sure, so I
think it should be an individual cases depending on the player.
If the player is really that caliber and that good,
there's no reason to bring him along slowly. If he's
not ready, then you shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I don't think Jordan Love was ready sure, uh with
the Packers, because if he was when they after the
first year or two, they would have traded Aaron Rodgers
at the remember at the at the at the draft
like that would have been if they knew for sure
he was gonna be their guy.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
For the next fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
You would have got a haul for Aaron Rodgers three
years ago or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Uh, And and.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
You could have said, we're gonna We're gonna play Jordan
Love the same way like the Packers were ready to
move on right from Brett farb. Brett Farv didn't retire
when he left the Packers. He took the Vikings to
the NFC Championship game. He was still cocking, still play.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Let me ask you a quick question. And I know you're,
you know, Tom Brady super fan, you got all his
jerseys and all that, But oh yeah, is he being
like old man on the lawn right now? Because I
just feel like, you know, listen, First of all, I
respect any analyst that gives his honest opinion, that cookie cutter.
But it feels like every time I hear him talking
about modern football, he talks about how bad it was,
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almost like a Charles Barkley everything was better in my day,
Da Da Da da. This is like the third he's
called one preseason game, And this feels like the third
or fourth time in probably the last six to eight
months where we've heard Tom Brady complaining about the current
state of football.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, I agree, it does sound a little weird. You
don't want to be that guy, you know, like there's
nothing wrong. If you see something wrong, say it.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
But but it shouldn't always be the same thing that
things were better back in the day, and this and that.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Things change.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
You gotta you gotta look at it and and things evolve.
So this will be interesting to hear what people think.
So do you agree with Tom brady sentiment that rookie
quarterbacks shouldn't be starting Week one in the NFL? Eight
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Speaker 3 (15:51):
And the question is real simple. Do you agree with
Tom Brady's sentiments about the rookie quarterbacks shouldn't be star
in Week one in the NFL? And I know, Aaron,
we got plenty of people want to jump in.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah, we'll start with Weston in Idaho, West and you're
on the odd couple. Aaron Torres filling it for Chris
Brussard alongside Rob Parker. West and the floor is yours.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
I think Tom is totally right, and I think a
lot of people are misinterpreting him. He's not necessarily saying, Oh,
back in my day, quarterbacks were smart and now they're dumb.
He's saying, in my day, they had three to four
years to completely learn an NFL offense. When they stepped
out on the field, they had full command of the
whole range of the offense. If you just are coming
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out of college.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Patrick Holmes, Patrick Joe Burrow went to the Super Bowl
his second year.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Dan Marino went to the Super Bowl his second year.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Well, I mean, like you can sit here and say
you need four years to completely command the terminology and
learn the offense. I mean, I could give you a
thousand examples of people. It didn't take four years.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Rob.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
You know who else went to the Super Bowl in
his second year?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Who's that?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Tom Brady?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
There you go, So stop stop with all this, Oh
you need four years? This is not realistic, right, Aaron.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Can we at least acknowledge that everybody not the same.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Well, it's not first of all, the most important part,
it's not realistic. And you know, listen, there are plenty
of exams. Listen, this is the world that we live in,
and like an hour for now, you know a little
bit from now, we're gonna have Tim Brando on talking
college football, right, and I'll just use this as an example.
I was not a fan of the twelve team playoff
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in the college football when it was first brought up.
But guess what, it's here. I can't keep complaining. It's
time to move on. It's time to embrace it for
what it is. And with Tom Brady, it's not nineteen
ninety nine anymore. It's gonna be different. Players are coached different,
the rules are different. There's a new generation of coaches.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
I know, I know Bill Belichick busted your butt. I
know it was really hard to play for him. I
know probably you know Sean McVay doesn't drop as many
mf ers on his quarterback as as as Bill Belichick
did on you. But it's a new world, it's a
new reality. And we've seen time and time again this
is how teams are built. And by the way, here's
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the other thing. These guys all know coming in that, hey,
you're probably gonna get thrown into the fire pretty early.
So I just look at it, Rob and I just
sit there and say, like, I don't know, I just
when I when I see this, this this whining from
Tom Brady. I don't get it. I don't understand the frustration,
And I think what it is is a lack of
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understanding of where we are with football and the fact
that the sport is changing, the sport is evolving, and
behind the scenes things are changing as well.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, so it'll it'll, it'll, it'll be it'll be interesting
going forward. But I think I just think you have
to you have to treat everyone differently.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
You have to look at the circumstances. Some coaches don't.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Have four years, five years, sure, like it just depends
on where you are as a team. What if you
have everything in place right, you just haven't had a
quarterback and you just need a serviceable, decent quarterback and
this kid who was great in college comes along and
you say, that's all we need it, you know what
I mean, You're gonna tell him now, We'll wait for
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you in three years when we have to let everybody
go from defense because we can't pay him, you know what.
Like like, there's a lot of different moving parts on this.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Well.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
And the other thing is, I go back to what
I mentioned earlier, is these guys, if you look at
their rosters. These guys are the best option, like is
the court? Is the coach not supposed to play the
best option because he's a rookie. Like you know, I've seen,
I've lived with Zach Wilson experience. He's in Denver. He
ain't the answer. I can not for seventeen games. I
could promise see that. So are we supposed to start
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Zach Wills? By the way, Zach Wilson first year in
the system. Just because he's been in the NFL doesn't
mean he's any more equipped to do the job than
than than bon Knicks.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
And we've seen that movie exactly, like I mean, like
the idea that, oh Zach Wilson, what a blow to him?
Speaker 8 (20:10):
What blow?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Did you really think he was going to Denver?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Right?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Did you think he was really going to Denver? Was
gonna be the starting quarterback?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
He has done nothing to make you feel like he's
going to be good in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
All right, we got can we squeeze one more?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
In?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Absolutely? We got Kyle in Washington. Kyle in Washington. You're
on the odd couple of erin Torres filling in for
Chris Brussard alongside Rob Parker.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
Go ahead, Kyle, I'm calling it. I do agree with
Tom Brady that shitting is a beneficial I don't think
an expanded shit but one year, maybe two. And I'm
okay with the idea of, like, if your team isn't
in playoff contention towards the end of the season, maybe
letting them in last couple of games. Patrick Mahomes did
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that last game of his roof year he got in Yep,
I think I think that's a smart approach, you know,
let him learn a little bit how the games go
on Sunday. But the two, three years, three four years
could be excessive. But you know, halfway through the first season,
I could see.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
That well real quick. Like to Rob's point, Matt Eberflus,
he doesn't have three years to like Caleb, But like Matti,
Ebraflues has to win now or he ain't back for
Caleb bullys exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Like like you just you've been dying in Chicago for
a franchise quarterback. You haven't had one since Sid Luckman, right,
I mean like like really, and now they have Caleb
Williams and they're gonna tell Caleb, yes, sit there while
we go h three and fourteen. Yeah, Okay, yes, sit
there and you'll learn on how to play. I got
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news for you.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
I'm sure the fan base will be thrilled watching whoever
it is. And here's the other thing too, here's the
other thing is. And I learned this. This is a
random example, but I learned this with when Matt Ruhle
was in Carolina. Right is all these coaches they think
we got all this time to define our guy, developed
at this and that. And if you remember Matt Rule,
I think he starts with Teddy Bridgewater, didn't work out,
then he went to Sam Darnold, didn't work out, then
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he went to Baker mav and by the middle of
your three they fired him. And it was like, it's done.
And so even if you're Dan Quinn, if you, by
the way, here's the other thing like, and I know
I've said this a few times. If Jada Daniels isn't
the guy, if he's throwing an intercept, then you look
at what the other alternatives are. But Jada Daniels right now,
Jade Daniels went ten for twelve in the last preseason game.
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And I know it's the preseason, don't overreact whatever, but
he looked more than capable of doing his job? Are
you supposed to put him on the bench like? It's
just I think I think people are misconstruing. Yes, in
a perfect world, you would give the guy.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Those teams on. In a perfect world.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
You're drafted a quarterback that high?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yep, right, that means that you needed a quarterback, all right.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Aaron Torres has a bone to pick with the women
in the WNBA. I'm glad it's not me and it's
air in this time. But we'll continue with that next
be first.
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Speaker 4 (23:05):
It is the odd Couple coming to your live from
the tire Rack dot com studios, Rob Parker, Aaron Torres
and for Chris Broussard and men. Aaron Torres, go ahead,
you're gonna get people in trouble. You're uh, you know
the Connecticut son. You're from Connecticut and they played in
Boston the first WNBA game in Boston, right, had a
sellout crowd nineteen thousand plus?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Was it one hundred dollars night? I was trying to
figure out was that was that? Was it? What one
hundred dollar night at the game?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
For every fan you get one hundred dollars if you come.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
On, rob It's a growing league, have some respect. So
this is what happens. So, yes, the Connecticut Son played
in Boston on Tuesday. Okay, and so basically, obviously the
Connecticut Sun are based out of Connecticut. This was the
first time that they have played in Boston TD Garden
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that's obviously where the Celtics play. The game was announced
in December. As you said, drew a crowd of nineteen,
one hundred and twenty five people. But here's the problem.
Wasn't on TV. Maybe that's not the problem, but according
to one player, dejan A Carrington, she was not happy
with the promotion of this game.
Speaker 12 (24:20):
I think that there could have been a lot more
publicity or promo from the top.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
You know, Connecticut had.
Speaker 12 (24:29):
Announced that we were having this game, probably almost a
year ago, maybe I don't know, sometime after right after
last season, so it was ample time to do what
needed to be done. But it didn't matter anyway, because
they showed up and it was sold out.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
We got the dubs.
Speaker 12 (24:47):
So I guess my tweet worked and the game should
have been on a national television broadcast. You shouldn't have
to pay for any type of description to see a
game that's this.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Historic, in my opinion, what do you think, Rob?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
First, I want to say this, I'm so old, okay
that I used to cover when I covered the New
Jersey Nets. I don't know if you even know this, Aaron.
The Celtics used to play four games a year in Hartford.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Of course, yes, at the old.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Hartford Civic Center, which was in the mall in downtown Hartford.
But people would never believe that that the Celtics would
give up four home games at the Boston Garden to
play in Hartford, Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
That's how long ago I was covering the NBA. This
is in the eighties.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
You'd have to ask my mom about this, but we
definitely I was a big you know, I kind of
came a as a fan. I hate to you know,
age you here, but early nineties, and I forget if
it was Shack in his rookie year or Alonzo Morning
and Larry Johnson. That's those Charlotte Hornet's teams. One of
the two, if not both, came to Harford to play
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the Celtics, and I vividly remember going to one game.
I really liked the Hornets, but I seem to remember
the shack and the magic, So yes, I'm very familiar.
And by the way, fun fact, the Hertford Civic Center
now called the Excel Center going through a major renovation
right now. It's still home of the Yukon Husky, so
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the place is still open. It probably should have been
knocked down twenty five years ago, but that's neither here
nor there.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
So yeah, I don't know what her belly achin is about.
They sold out the game. It wasn't like they had
the game in Boston. Nobody knew it was going to
be played and four thousand people showed up. Then I
could see like the criticism of it sold out?
Speaker 8 (26:42):
What well?
Speaker 4 (26:45):
And why would it be a national game? I mean
just because it was? It was historic because it was
in Boston. Is that what she's saying? What was the
historic part of it?
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Well?
Speaker 5 (26:55):
No, and that I guess because it was the first
game ever in Boston. Okay, cool? Like if the uh
you know, it's like the the lake, Like you said,
the different teams play in different places. The Lakers play
you know, in Vegas a couple of times a year,
like doesn't mean that it has to be a nationally
televised game. This also, by the way, uh is the
young lady who you know, had a couple of hard
(27:17):
fouls on Caitlyn Clark when she came to town when
she played uh the Connecticut Son a few weeks ago. Uh,
she's had some very interesting tweets about the state of
Caitlyn Clark. You know, she was she was one that
she gave a pretty hard file at Caton Clark. So
this is a young lady that it feels to me, uh,
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certainly listen, she's certainly she was the one also that
mocked Caitlyn Clark with the whole you know, the fake head,
the head knocked, you know, the head pullback or whatever.
And you know, I I I think you know two
things can be true, right, is we can appreciate the
growth of the sport does feel like an awful lot
of belly achin though, you know, and this goes back
to the beginning of the season, all the Kate and
Clark stuff. But this young lady, it feels like every
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single time something comes up, she's complaining a lot, and
I hate to say it, Roberts. All the stuff that
a lot of people have talked about is that there's
more exposure than there's ever been Already there's only so
many national TV games, and it's like, I'm just tired
of everybody in the WNBA thinking they are are owed
everything when in reality. If I'm gonna be honest, and
(28:24):
maybe you disagree, I don't think anybody really cared about
WNBA until Caitlyn Clark and Angel Rees showed up.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I'm with you, I'm not. Still it still doesn't move me.
I've seen the highlights, but if I've watched, I haven't
watched a full WNBA game.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I just I'm not that. I'm just not into it.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
And it's no disrespect to people who want to watch
women's basketball. It just doesn't do anything for me. I
hate to break it to you. During the summer, guess
what I watch. I watch baseball every night.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Well, you're a Hall of Fame voter. No, No, that's
what I watch.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
It's just it has nothing to do with the w NBA.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
This might actually make me sound even worse than you
say you don't watch it all. The only game I
tuned into was the follow up game. If you remember,
early in the year, Caitlin Clark and Indiana played Angel
Reese in the Sky Chicago and Angel Rees had a
really hard following Caitlon Clark, and then it was the
you know, Angel Reese had the big thing about the
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the media is out to get us, and you know,
so you know, certain players get all the calls, and
so there was like a week of discourse and then
they played a week later and I tuned in to
see if anything crazy happened, and then of course nothing happened,
and it was just another you know, women's basketball game.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So that's usually how it goes.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah, I no, there's a lot of hype there. There
wasn't you know, there was There was a lot of sizzle,
not a lot of steak on that particular evening.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
So yeah, I mean the WNBA, I just I don't understand.
And this is the last point I'm gonna make.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
The game was a sellout, wasn't it hard nineteen? I
just don't like, Oh, they didn't promote it. They knew
about it for a year.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Obviously, people knew about it for a year because they
bought tickets. This it's on They play in the casino? Right,
what do they get eight thousand people? It's not a
big arena, is it.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
No, it's not. And you know, and that's what I'm
trying to I'm having trouble figuring out. Is like you said,
first of all, nineteen thousand people, that's a big crowd.
It's a great crowd. But what was it about the
game that warranted more coverage because it because like, by
the way, let me ask you a question, isn't it
sort of insulting to say, well, because it was a sellout,
it deserves more coverage. So you're basically acknowledging that one
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of these crowds is essentially I don't want to say
never existed, because it's the third biggest crowd of the
WNBA season, But if it, if it warranted more coverage,
it kind of makes you feel like, well, if it's
already sold out, then we're gonna make a big deal
out of something that you know, maybe we should just
be expecting rather than celebrating, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I just I don't get the criticism here.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
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Speaker 3 (32:00):
All right, here we go, Aaron, Let's do it, Shekel City.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Let's start with all right, let's start here, Shekel City.
Dodgers and the Mariners again tonight in Los Angeles. Let's
start it with that game, and I'm gonna take the
Dodgers who beat the Mariners last night. Let's do the
Dodgers minus one and a half runs against Seattle tonight
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in LA. That's my best bet. Also, I'm taking Oakland
plus one and a half runs. They're at home hosting
the Tampa bay Rays. And I'm gonna take Kansas City
to Royals minus one and a half at home taking
on the Angels.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So the Royals minus one and a half at.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Home against the Angels, Oakland getting a run and a
half against the Tampa bay Rays, and the Dodgers who
beat the Mariners last night, I got them one and
a half runs down.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Against Seattle in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
And remember, I'm not telling you who to bet on, Aaron,
I'm telling you who I bet on.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
All right, let's stick to baseball.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Tarrek Skoobel, right, who is the star pitcher for the
Detroit Tigers. The Tigers have already basically said he's having
a great year fourteen and four, two point four to nine,
el ra rob g. They're already saying what that they're
going to shut him down?
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Right, Eh, they're not going to shut him down, but
what they are going to do is he's scheduled to
make with the calendar break in this way, six to
seven starts. The rest of the way, they've already said
that's not gonna happen. He's gonna get longer rest now
because they're worried about his innings count. He's already had
a career high and the dreaded two hundred innings is
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within play if he makes every start, and they don't
want that to happen, which is a big deal, Rob
and Aaron, because he is right now the al triple
crown for pictures.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Like this is historic.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
This is not. I mean, I know the batting one
is unusual too, but right this, he is that guy,
and unfortunately we might be deprived of a chance at
history because.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
You know, they don't want him to get hurt.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I just, Aaron, here's my issue. He's a healthy young guy.
He's as long as he's not feeling any issues. Why
would you not just let the guy pitch? I just
don't what it's saving.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
Him for what?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I don't He's having a historic season. Rob g talked
about it, triple Crown of pitching, and you and.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
You want to he's gonna had twenty five starts so far,
He's got about six left. If he gets knocked around,
or he doesn't feel well or his arm twins take.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Him out, yep.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
But if he's healthy, why are we babying everybody and
just automatically we see this in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Drives you crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Let's rest these players and all this load management and
we still have injuries?
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Right?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Why Leonards the king of the load management he is,
and he still gets hurt. So how does that justify anything?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Well, and here's the other thing with load management specifically,
I know we're talking about baseball, is there's no actual
proof that it helps prevent injuries. And you know, listen,
all these guys have been pitching all their lives, you know,
high leverage games. Whatever. I'm just against. I'm against this
as well, Rob, And I just think, you know, like
you just look at it. And one, first of all,
he has a chance at history. He's fully healthy. And
(35:36):
I just go back to what I said a minute ago,
is that when you try to, for lack of a
better term, it's not the perfect term, but when you
try to play god with these situations, yes, it never
works out. And these guys are highly trained athletes. They've
been training their whole life for this exact situation, and
you just never know when you're gonna have an opportunity
to do something like this. Again, I mean, you go back,
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and I know it's different because they were in first place,
But remember the year twenty twelve when Steven Strousberg got
shut down and the Nats were in first place and
the favorite to win the ed L and they shut
him down, and of course from there they ended up
losing early in the playoffs and they never sniffed another
World Series title when he was with the team. So
if he's healthy, if he can play, just let him play.
(36:19):
He's young, his body is used to it. And again,
I think when he start playing god with stuff, that's
when injuries start to happen. When he kind of you're
in that start stop mindset more than anything else.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I just I know it's a different day and age
and people don't look at things the same way. But
Dwight Gooden in with the Mets, you remember when he
broke onto the scene, started thirty one games his rookie year, yep,
with seventeen and nine.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Do you know what I mean? I just I'm looking
at it going why not why stop the guy?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
If a guy's having a historic season like that, None
of it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
And the other thing, too, is, I know this shouldn't
be a reason, but you know, the Tigers are obviously
not very good. I think we all know that, you're
obviously very plugged. It in Detroit gives a reason for
people to tune in, people to be excited about the team,
people to show up to the ballpark. And again, neither
of us is saying if his arm is falling off
or he has pain, to keep running him out there.
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But you know, the fans are paying fans, and they
deserve to have something to be excited about in an
otherwise kind of forgettable season.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
One hundred.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Anytime somebody's playing well, why would you take them out
of their own rhythm? Take this guy's dominating to having
a tremendous year. Let it finish out, play out. Maybe
he does win the Triple Crown of pitching. It's not
something that happens all the time. It would be a
great honor, all right, our number two. Speaking of triple crowns,
(37:53):
maybe Old Tony can't win it in the National League.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
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Speaker 4 (01:19):
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Speaker 5 (01:24):
What's up, Aaron Rob Parker? My man, you I'm great.
I was on a few weeks with you, a few
weeks ago with you had a blast then, no, we'll
have a blast now. And you know, just genuinely always
appreciate you having me on this show and excited to
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Hours, no doubt.
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Always fun, a lot of good stuff to get to,
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That's an our number three. So a really really good
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Let's start off with our super producer, Rob G. Back
from vacation, Rob G.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (02:21):
I am doing better now I'm here with you, Rob Parker.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
No doubt, my man, I appreciate it. I hope you
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You know it?
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All right, let's do that, all right. Also, Brian Finley,
who was at the anchor desk. He'll keep us updated
throughout the program, and you know, Brian's newly married now
and everything. Just got back from the honeymoon and all that,
so he's in a different light.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
We were seeing him, you know, we were sharing honeymoon tips.
He went, he went to Hawaii. I went to Hawaii
many years ago. As a matter of fact, I was
looking through old pictures, my wedding introvert well, my honeymoon anniversary.
We left August twentieth, twenty nineteen, so we were in
Hawaii five years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Brian of course recently married, and not to give away
too much, but it looked like he had a good trip.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
The only problem was when he went to take a nap.
I think somebody put a he was in his bathing suit.
He went to take a nap, somebody put an apple
in his mouth, so I think that.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Sorry, Brian, oh Rob, sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Of course, Elijah is on this social media social media,
and guess who's.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
On the ones and twos. It's Mary Mary. There you go,
Mary Mary. So there we go. Let's get it started.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Mister Aaron Torres and the Denver Broncos have named boat
Knicks starting QB and they're ready for the bo Knicks era.
The first top draft pick quarterback to start since John Elway.
John Elway had an unbelievable career in Denver, went to
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all those Super Bowls, won his last two before he retired.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So John Elway bow.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Knicks John Elway esque. But this was interesting, and I
don't know if you've seen this. Tom Brady kind of said,
this isn't his NFL anymore already, he's kind of down
on the idea.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Of the league.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Baby, and these guys to allow rookie quarterbacks to start.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Bow Knicks has won.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I think they're gonna be I believe Rob g three
rookie quarterbacks who were starting this year?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Is that the number?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
So yeah, Aaron and Tom Brady basically said the league
is dumbed down the sport in order for this to happen.
Let's listen to mister Tom Brady from Fox Sports.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
I might add I had to learn from being seventh
quarterback on the depth chart to moving up the third
to ultimately being a starter. I had to learn all
those things, and college that was development. Then I went
to New England and I was developed by coach Belichick
and the offensive staff there.
Speaker 8 (05:07):
I didn't start my first year.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
I think it's just a tragedy that we're forcing these
rookies to play early. But the reality is the only
reason why that is because we dumb the game down,
which has allowed them to play. It used to be
thought of at a higher level. We used to spend
hours and hours in the offseason in training camp trying
to be a little bit better than next year. But
I think what happens is discourages the coaches from going
to deep levels because they realize the players don't have
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the opportunity to go to a deep level, so they're
just gonna teach them where they're at.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Aaron will let you start on that. Where are you
on Tom Brady? And the dumbing down of the game.
We have seen some teams like Aaron Rodgers didn't play
for more than three years, Jordan Love didn't play for
three years. You know, like there were some teams that
have bucked that trend. But I think with a short
lea showing coaches and players, you know, they're not bringing
(05:59):
these guys in, gonna let them sit. The coach might
not even be there by the time they get in.
You know, everything is instant gratification.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Where are you?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
So?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I think two things are true. One listen. I think
any rookie quarterback would prefer if they didn't have to
be I I don't know if the player would, but
I think certainly the coaching staff would. Whatever that you
you wouldn't have to be thrown into the fire. But
the sport evolves, things evolve, and things change, and such.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
A Mahomes didn't start his first year when he got
there exactly.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
And so in a perfect world, yes, you have a
setup where you have a Hall of Fame coach with
a veteran quarterback and you can take a guy and
you can bring him along slowly. That's just not realistic.
It's just not realistic. And I just think it's the
evolution of the game. I think there's things across all
sports rob that we like, that we don't like, but
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that we have to accept it just it is what
it is. And the track record over the last whatever
it is, six seven, eight years is you get quarterbacks.
If you're drafting them, especially in that first half of
the first round, they're probably going to have to play
right away. And as a matter of fact, drop where
I would actually push back on Tom Brady and you know,
I know the guy knows more football than me. But
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isn't coaching. Isn't being a good coach building whatever it is,
a game plan, whatever, around your players' strengths and weaknesses.
Isn't that good coaching? Not throwing the entire playbook at
a guy if he isn't ready and you know you
have to play him. So I look at it as yes,
I think in a perfect world we'd go back to
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nineteen eighty nine and everybody would get a year or
two to learn the playbook, take their time, whatever. But
that's just not realistic. I don't blame the players, I
don't blame the organizations. And I actually think it's good
coaching to dumb things down a little bit, to put
your player in the best position to succeed as possible,
No doubt that.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Is that is coaching. You know, everybody's different. You want
to put him in.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You don't want to put a guy in a spot
that he's going to get blown up in and and
not be able to succeed. So that makes sense, And
I guess it's just weird, and I get it. Everybody's
not Tom Brady. Everybody's not a what was his sixth
round draft choice?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Right?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Most people aren't in that camp, and they're just high
stakes in the NFL. Now, I think that we talked
about Aaron, coaches don't have a five year plan. Do
you remember those days when they used to talk about, oh, yeah,
this is a five year and five years will.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Be five years five years.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Sure, no way are they waiting around for five years
to see if things are going to turn around.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Guys don't play.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Well, they're already looking for somebody else, a coach. You
have a couple of bad years, Uh, they're looking for
another coach. If you're not part of the solution, you're
part of the problem. And it's just there's no patience
in sports for anybody.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
No, there isn't. And you know, but I also think, again,
this is to me. To me, this is the evolution
of the sport. And the other thing I would push
back on a little bit is I know that Brady
wasn't necessarily specifically talking about bo Nicks, but you look
at the three rookie quarterbacks that are set to start
this year. Listen, Caleb Williams. People believe to be a
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generational type talent, and for the most part, it doesn't
matter what era you're in. If you're going number one overall,
you're gonna start right away. By the way, Bo Nicks
first rookie since John Lway to start. John Elway was
pretty good, right, so it has happened before. But then
you look at the other two guys. You know, Bo
Knicks is twenty four years old, played five years of
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college football, four offensive coordinators. Jaden Daniels himself played five
years of college football. He is twenty three, he will
soon be twenty four. So this isn't somebody being handed something.
You know, listen, only time will tell if they're ready
for it. But this isn't, you know, some some twenty
year old Anthony Richardson type situation that the guy only had,
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you know, six career starts or whatever it was. These
three guys are all multi year starters. They're experienced. I'm
not smart enough to know the x's and o's of
how much it's being dumb down, but I think all
three of these guys are experienced, they're veteran, and I think, frankly,
I think all three of them they're starting because they're
their team's best option. And isn't that what, like what
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did her Edwards say? You play to win the game?
And those three guys specifically give their individual teams the
best chance to actually win.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Here's my onny thing is, and I think where Brady
you could have a swing and miss is.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Most of his argument makes sense.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
In a perfect world, right, But the other problem is
if you have a prodigy.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I don't think a prodigy should be held back. You know,
like if.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
There's somebody Joe Burrow right when he came to the Bengals,
was you could tell right away that this guy right
was something special, got the team get hurt his first year,
only played seven or eight games, and the next year
took his team to.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
The Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Sure, so when you have a prodigy, I don't believe
in telling somebody, well, you have to sit in regardless.
You know, in the old college basketball, when Kareem abdul
Jabbar played freshman, didn't play for sure. Can you imagine
a coach looking at Kareem abdul Jabbar and said, well,
you're a front I don't care if you're seven foot
tall and nobody can defend you. You have to sit
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or play with JV. You can't play on the varsity
because that's the rule. Like that's silly. Sure, so I
think it should be an individual cases depending on the player.
If the player is really that caliber and that good,
there's no reason to bring him along slowly. If he's
not ready, then you shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I don't think Jordan Love was ready sure, uh with
the Packers, because if he was when they after the
first year or two, they would have traded Aaron Rodgers
at the remember at the at the at the draft
like that would have been if they knew for sure
he was gonna be their guy.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
For the next fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
You would have got a haul for Aaron Rodgers three
years ago or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Uh, And and.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
You could have said, we're gonna We're gonna play Jordan
Love the same way like the Packers were ready to
move on right from Brett farb. Brett Farv didn't retire
when he left the Packers. He took the Vikings to
the NFC Championship game. He was still cocking, still play.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Let me ask you a quick question. And I know you're,
you know, Tom Brady super fan, you got all his
jerseys and all that, But oh yeah, is he being
like old man on the lawn right now? Because I
just feel like, you know, listen, First of all, I
respect any analyst that gives his honest opinion, that cookie cutter.
But it feels like every time I hear him talking
about modern football, he talks about how bad it was,
(13:05):
almost like a Charles Barkley everything was better in my day,
Da Da Da da. This is like the third he's
called one preseason game, And this feels like the third
or fourth time in probably the last six to eight
months where we've heard Tom Brady complaining about the current
state of football.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, I agree, it does sound a little weird. You
don't want to be that guy, you know, like there's
nothing wrong. If you see something wrong, say it.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
But but it shouldn't always be the same thing that
things were better back in the day, and this and that.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Things change.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
You gotta you gotta look at it and and things evolve.
So this will be interesting to hear what people think.
So do you agree with Tom brady sentiment that rookie
quarterbacks shouldn't be starting Week one in the NFL? Eight
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Speaker 3 (15:51):
And the question is real simple. Do you agree with
Tom Brady's sentiments about the rookie quarterbacks shouldn't be star
in Week one in the NFL? And I know, Aaron,
we got plenty of people want to jump in.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah, we'll start with Weston in Idaho, West and you're
on the odd couple. Aaron Torres filling it for Chris
Brussard alongside Rob Parker. West and the floor is yours.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
I think Tom is totally right, and I think a
lot of people are misinterpreting him. He's not necessarily saying, Oh,
back in my day, quarterbacks were smart and now they're dumb.
He's saying, in my day, they had three to four
years to completely learn an NFL offense. When they stepped
out on the field, they had full command of the
whole range of the offense. If you just are coming
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out of college.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Patrick Holmes, Patrick Joe Burrow went to the Super Bowl
his second year.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Dan Marino went to the Super Bowl his second year.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Well, I mean, like you can sit here and say
you need four years to completely command the terminology and
learn the offense. I mean, I could give you a
thousand examples of people. It didn't take four years.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Rob.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
You know who else went to the Super Bowl in
his second year?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Who's that?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Tom Brady?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
There you go, So stop stop with all this, Oh
you need four years? This is not realistic, right, Aaron.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Can we at least acknowledge that everybody not the same.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Well, it's not first of all, the most important part,
it's not realistic. And you know, listen, there are plenty
of exams. Listen, this is the world that we live in,
and like an hour for now, you know a little
bit from now, we're gonna have Tim Brando on talking
college football, right, and I'll just use this as an example.
I was not a fan of the twelve team playoff
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in the college football when it was first brought up.
But guess what, it's here. I can't keep complaining. It's
time to move on. It's time to embrace it for
what it is. And with Tom Brady, it's not nineteen
ninety nine anymore. It's gonna be different. Players are coached different,
the rules are different. There's a new generation of coaches.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
I know, I know Bill Belichick busted your butt. I
know it was really hard to play for him. I
know probably you know Sean McVay doesn't drop as many
mf ers on his quarterback as as as Bill Belichick
did on you. But it's a new world, it's a
new reality. And we've seen time and time again this
is how teams are built. And by the way, here's
(18:13):
the other thing. These guys all know coming in that, hey,
you're probably gonna get thrown into the fire pretty early.
So I just look at it, Rob and I just
sit there and say, like, I don't know, I just
when I when I see this, this this whining from
Tom Brady. I don't get it. I don't understand the frustration,
And I think what it is is a lack of
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understanding of where we are with football and the fact
that the sport is changing, the sport is evolving, and
behind the scenes things are changing as well.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
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Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, so it'll it'll, it'll, it'll be it'll be interesting
going forward. But I think I just think you have
to you have to treat everyone differently.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
You have to look at the circumstances. Some coaches don't.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Have four years, five years, sure, like it just depends
on where you are as a team. What if you
have everything in place right, you just haven't had a
quarterback and you just need a serviceable, decent quarterback and
this kid who was great in college comes along and
you say, that's all we need it, you know what
I mean, You're gonna tell him now, We'll wait for
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you in three years when we have to let everybody
go from defense because we can't pay him, you know what.
Like like, there's a lot of different moving parts on this.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Well.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
And the other thing is, I go back to what
I mentioned earlier, is these guys, if you look at
their rosters. These guys are the best option, like is
the court? Is the coach not supposed to play the
best option because he's a rookie. Like you know, I've seen,
I've lived with Zach Wilson experience. He's in Denver. He
ain't the answer. I can not for seventeen games. I
could promise see that. So are we supposed to start
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Zach Wills? By the way, Zach Wilson first year in
the system. Just because he's been in the NFL doesn't
mean he's any more equipped to do the job than
than than bon Knicks.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
And we've seen that movie exactly, like I mean, like
the idea that, oh Zach Wilson, what a blow to him?
Speaker 8 (20:10):
What blow?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Did you really think he was going to Denver?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Right?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Did you think he was really going to Denver? Was
gonna be the starting quarterback?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
He has done nothing to make you feel like he's
going to be good in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
All right, we got can we squeeze one more?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
In?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Absolutely? We got Kyle in Washington. Kyle in Washington. You're
on the odd couple of erin Torres filling in for
Chris Brussard alongside Rob Parker.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
Go ahead, Kyle, I'm calling it. I do agree with
Tom Brady that shitting is a beneficial I don't think
an expanded shit but one year, maybe two. And I'm
okay with the idea of, like, if your team isn't
in playoff contention towards the end of the season, maybe
letting them in last couple of games. Patrick Mahomes did
(20:50):
that last game of his roof year he got in Yep,
I think I think that's a smart approach, you know,
let him learn a little bit how the games go
on Sunday. But the two, three years, three four years
could be excessive. But you know, halfway through the first season,
I could see.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
That well real quick. Like to Rob's point, Matt Eberflus,
he doesn't have three years to like Caleb, But like Matti,
Ebraflues has to win now or he ain't back for
Caleb bullys exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Like like you just you've been dying in Chicago for
a franchise quarterback. You haven't had one since Sid Luckman, right,
I mean like like really, and now they have Caleb
Williams and they're gonna tell Caleb, yes, sit there while
we go h three and fourteen. Yeah, Okay, yes, sit
there and you'll learn on how to play. I got
(21:41):
news for you.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
I'm sure the fan base will be thrilled watching whoever
it is. And here's the other thing too, here's the
other thing is. And I learned this. This is a
random example, but I learned this with when Matt Ruhle
was in Carolina. Right is all these coaches they think
we got all this time to define our guy, developed
at this and that. And if you remember Matt Rule,
I think he starts with Teddy Bridgewater, didn't work out,
then he went to Sam Darnold, didn't work out, then
(22:03):
he went to Baker mav and by the middle of
your three they fired him. And it was like, it's done.
And so even if you're Dan Quinn, if you, by
the way, here's the other thing like, and I know
I've said this a few times. If Jada Daniels isn't
the guy, if he's throwing an intercept, then you look
at what the other alternatives are. But Jada Daniels right now,
Jade Daniels went ten for twelve in the last preseason game.
(22:23):
And I know it's the preseason, don't overreact whatever, but
he looked more than capable of doing his job? Are
you supposed to put him on the bench like? It's
just I think I think people are misconstruing. Yes, in
a perfect world, you would give the guy.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Those teams on. In a perfect world.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
You're drafted a quarterback that high?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yep, right, that means that you needed a quarterback, all right.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Aaron Torres has a bone to pick with the women
in the WNBA. I'm glad it's not me and it's
air in this time. But we'll continue with that next
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Speaker 4 (23:05):
It is the odd Couple coming to your live from
the tire Rack dot com studios, Rob Parker, Aaron Torres
and for Chris Broussard and men. Aaron Torres, go ahead,
you're gonna get people in trouble. You're uh, you know
the Connecticut son. You're from Connecticut and they played in
Boston the first WNBA game in Boston, right, had a
sellout crowd nineteen thousand plus?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Was it one hundred dollars night? I was trying to
figure out was that was that? Was it? What one
hundred dollar night at the game?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
For every fan you get one hundred dollars if you come.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
On, rob It's a growing league, have some respect. So
this is what happens. So, yes, the Connecticut Son played
in Boston on Tuesday. Okay, and so basically, obviously the
Connecticut Sun are based out of Connecticut. This was the
first time that they have played in Boston TD Garden
(24:00):
that's obviously where the Celtics play. The game was announced
in December. As you said, drew a crowd of nineteen,
one hundred and twenty five people. But here's the problem.
Wasn't on TV. Maybe that's not the problem, but according
to one player, dejan A Carrington, she was not happy
with the promotion of this game.
Speaker 12 (24:20):
I think that there could have been a lot more
publicity or promo from the top.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
You know, Connecticut had.
Speaker 12 (24:29):
Announced that we were having this game, probably almost a
year ago, maybe I don't know, sometime after right after
last season, so it was ample time to do what
needed to be done. But it didn't matter anyway, because
they showed up and it was sold out.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
We got the dubs.
Speaker 12 (24:47):
So I guess my tweet worked and the game should
have been on a national television broadcast. You shouldn't have
to pay for any type of description to see a
game that's this.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Historic, in my opinion, what do you think, Rob?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
First, I want to say this, I'm so old, okay
that I used to cover when I covered the New
Jersey Nets. I don't know if you even know this, Aaron.
The Celtics used to play four games a year in Hartford.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Of course, yes, at the old.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Hartford Civic Center, which was in the mall in downtown Hartford.
But people would never believe that that the Celtics would
give up four home games at the Boston Garden to
play in Hartford, Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
That's how long ago I was covering the NBA. This
is in the eighties.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
You'd have to ask my mom about this, but we
definitely I was a big you know, I kind of
came a as a fan. I hate to you know,
age you here, but early nineties, and I forget if
it was Shack in his rookie year or Alonzo Morning
and Larry Johnson. That's those Charlotte Hornet's teams. One of
the two, if not both, came to Harford to play
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the Celtics, and I vividly remember going to one game.
I really liked the Hornets, but I seem to remember
the shack and the magic, So yes, I'm very familiar.
And by the way, fun fact, the Hertford Civic Center
now called the Excel Center going through a major renovation
right now. It's still home of the Yukon Husky, so
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the place is still open. It probably should have been
knocked down twenty five years ago, but that's neither here
nor there.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
So yeah, I don't know what her belly achin is about.
They sold out the game. It wasn't like they had
the game in Boston. Nobody knew it was going to
be played and four thousand people showed up. Then I
could see like the criticism of it sold out?
Speaker 8 (26:42):
What well?
Speaker 4 (26:45):
And why would it be a national game? I mean
just because it was? It was historic because it was
in Boston. Is that what she's saying? What was the
historic part of it?
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Well?
Speaker 5 (26:55):
No, and that I guess because it was the first
game ever in Boston. Okay, cool? Like if the uh
you know, it's like the the lake, Like you said,
the different teams play in different places. The Lakers play
you know, in Vegas a couple of times a year,
like doesn't mean that it has to be a nationally
televised game. This also, by the way, uh is the
young lady who you know, had a couple of hard
(27:17):
fouls on Caitlyn Clark when she came to town when
she played uh the Connecticut Son a few weeks ago. Uh,
she's had some very interesting tweets about the state of
Caitlyn Clark. You know, she was she was one that
she gave a pretty hard file at Caton Clark. So
this is a young lady that it feels to me, uh,
(27:39):
certainly listen, she's certainly she was the one also that
mocked Caitlyn Clark with the whole you know, the fake head,
the head knocked, you know, the head pullback or whatever.
And you know, I I I think you know two
things can be true, right, is we can appreciate the
growth of the sport does feel like an awful lot
of belly achin though, you know, and this goes back
to the beginning of the season, all the Kate and
Clark stuff. But this young lady, it feels like every
(28:02):
single time something comes up, she's complaining a lot, and
I hate to say it, Roberts. All the stuff that
a lot of people have talked about is that there's
more exposure than there's ever been Already there's only so
many national TV games, and it's like, I'm just tired
of everybody in the WNBA thinking they are are owed
everything when in reality. If I'm gonna be honest, and
(28:24):
maybe you disagree, I don't think anybody really cared about
WNBA until Caitlyn Clark and Angel Rees showed up.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I'm with you, I'm not. Still it still doesn't move me.
I've seen the highlights, but if I've watched, I haven't
watched a full WNBA game.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I just I'm not that. I'm just not into it.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
And it's no disrespect to people who want to watch
women's basketball. It just doesn't do anything for me. I
hate to break it to you. During the summer, guess
what I watch. I watch baseball every night.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Well, you're a Hall of Fame voter. No, No, that's
what I watch.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
It's just it has nothing to do with the w NBA.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
This might actually make me sound even worse than you
say you don't watch it all. The only game I
tuned into was the follow up game. If you remember,
early in the year, Caitlin Clark and Indiana played Angel
Reese in the Sky Chicago and Angel Rees had a
really hard following Caitlon Clark, and then it was the
you know, Angel Reese had the big thing about the
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the media is out to get us, and you know,
so you know, certain players get all the calls, and
so there was like a week of discourse and then
they played a week later and I tuned in to
see if anything crazy happened, and then of course nothing happened,
and it was just another you know, women's basketball game.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So that's usually how it goes.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah, I no, there's a lot of hype there. There
wasn't you know, there was There was a lot of sizzle,
not a lot of steak on that particular evening.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
So yeah, I mean the WNBA, I just I don't understand.
And this is the last point I'm gonna make.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
The game was a sellout, wasn't it hard nineteen? I
just don't like, Oh, they didn't promote it. They knew
about it for a year.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Obviously, people knew about it for a year because they
bought tickets. This it's on They play in the casino? Right,
what do they get eight thousand people? It's not a
big arena, is it.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
No, it's not. And you know, and that's what I'm
trying to I'm having trouble figuring out. Is like you said,
first of all, nineteen thousand people, that's a big crowd.
It's a great crowd. But what was it about the
game that warranted more coverage because it because like, by
the way, let me ask you a question, isn't it
sort of insulting to say, well, because it was a sellout,
it deserves more coverage. So you're basically acknowledging that one
(30:28):
of these crowds is essentially I don't want to say
never existed, because it's the third biggest crowd of the
WNBA season, But if it, if it warranted more coverage,
it kind of makes you feel like, well, if it's
already sold out, then we're gonna make a big deal
out of something that you know, maybe we should just
be expecting rather than celebrating, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I just I don't get the criticism here.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
All right, there's an epidemic running through major League Baseball,
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In for Chris Bussard and Aaron It's time for Shekel City.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
All right, here we go, Aaron, Let's do it, Shekel City.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Let's start with all right, let's start here, Shekel City.
Dodgers and the Mariners again tonight in Los Angeles. Let's
start it with that game, and I'm gonna take the
Dodgers who beat the Mariners last night. Let's do the
Dodgers minus one and a half runs against Seattle tonight
(32:27):
in LA. That's my best bet. Also, I'm taking Oakland
plus one and a half runs. They're at home hosting
the Tampa bay Rays. And I'm gonna take Kansas City
to Royals minus one and a half at home taking
on the Angels.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So the Royals minus one and a half at.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Home against the Angels, Oakland getting a run and a
half against the Tampa bay Rays, and the Dodgers who
beat the Mariners last night, I got them one and
a half runs down.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Against Seattle in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
And remember, I'm not telling you who to bet on, Aaron,
I'm telling you who I bet on.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
All right, let's stick to baseball.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Tarrek Skoobel, right, who is the star pitcher for the
Detroit Tigers. The Tigers have already basically said he's having
a great year fourteen and four, two point four to nine,
el ra rob g. They're already saying what that they're
going to shut him down?
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Right, Eh, they're not going to shut him down, but
what they are going to do is he's scheduled to
make with the calendar break in this way, six to
seven starts. The rest of the way, they've already said
that's not gonna happen. He's gonna get longer rest now
because they're worried about his innings count. He's already had
a career high and the dreaded two hundred innings is
(33:47):
within play if he makes every start, and they don't
want that to happen, which is a big deal, Rob
and Aaron, because he is right now the al triple
crown for pictures.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Like this is historic.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
This is not. I mean, I know the batting one
is unusual too, but right this, he is that guy,
and unfortunately we might be deprived of a chance at
history because.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
You know, they don't want him to get hurt.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I just, Aaron, here's my issue. He's a healthy young guy.
He's as long as he's not feeling any issues. Why
would you not just let the guy pitch? I just
don't what it's saving.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
Him for what?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I don't He's having a historic season. Rob g talked
about it, triple Crown of pitching, and you and.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
You want to he's gonna had twenty five starts so far,
He's got about six left. If he gets knocked around,
or he doesn't feel well or his arm twins take.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Him out, yep.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
But if he's healthy, why are we babying everybody and
just automatically we see this in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Drives you crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Let's rest these players and all this load management and
we still have injuries?
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Right?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Why Leonards the king of the load management he is,
and he still gets hurt. So how does that justify anything?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Well, and here's the other thing with load management specifically,
I know we're talking about baseball, is there's no actual
proof that it helps prevent injuries. And you know, listen,
all these guys have been pitching all their lives, you know,
high leverage games. Whatever. I'm just against. I'm against this
as well, Rob, And I just think, you know, like
you just look at it. And one, first of all,
he has a chance at history. He's fully healthy. And
(35:36):
I just go back to what I said a minute ago,
is that when you try to, for lack of a
better term, it's not the perfect term, but when you
try to play god with these situations, yes, it never
works out. And these guys are highly trained athletes. They've
been training their whole life for this exact situation, and
you just never know when you're gonna have an opportunity
to do something like this. Again, I mean, you go back,
(35:57):
and I know it's different because they were in first place,
But remember the year twenty twelve when Steven Strousberg got
shut down and the Nats were in first place and
the favorite to win the ed L and they shut
him down, and of course from there they ended up
losing early in the playoffs and they never sniffed another
World Series title when he was with the team. So
if he's healthy, if he can play, just let him play.
(36:19):
He's young, his body is used to it. And again,
I think when he start playing god with stuff, that's
when injuries start to happen. When he kind of you're
in that start stop mindset more than anything else.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I just I know it's a different day and age
and people don't look at things the same way. But
Dwight Gooden in with the Mets, you remember when he
broke onto the scene, started thirty one games his rookie year, yep,
with seventeen and nine.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Do you know what I mean? I just I'm looking
at it going why not why stop the guy?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
If a guy's having a historic season like that, None
of it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
And the other thing, too, is, I know this shouldn't
be a reason, but you know, the Tigers are obviously
not very good. I think we all know that, you're
obviously very plugged. It in Detroit gives a reason for
people to tune in, people to be excited about the team,
people to show up to the ballpark. And again, neither
of us is saying if his arm is falling off
or he has pain, to keep running him out there.
(37:22):
But you know, the fans are paying fans, and they
deserve to have something to be excited about in an
otherwise kind of forgettable season.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
One hundred.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Anytime somebody's playing well, why would you take them out
of their own rhythm? Take this guy's dominating to having
a tremendous year. Let it finish out, play out. Maybe
he does win the Triple Crown of pitching. It's not
something that happens all the time. It would be a
great honor, all right, our number two. Speaking of triple crowns,
(37:53):
maybe Old Tony can't win it in the National League.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
We'll talk about that, and much more. It's the odd
couple
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