August 28, 2024 • 36 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Chris discuss Jrue Holiday’s assertion that winning an NBA championship means more than winning an Olympic gold medal and explain why Deion Sanders and the Colorado Buffaloes are under enormous pressure heading into their Thursday night tilt with North Dakota State. Later, MLBBro.com’s JR Gamble swings by to help address all the biggest baseball headlines in this week’s edition of Foul or Fair.
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
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up at the bottom of the hour, but for now, Martin,
let's go to a little hoop basketball and Drew Holliday,
who of course played a significant role starter for the
most part with Team USA as they won gold this year.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
They they.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Wanted boy the hair on their chinny chin chin, but
they did.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Win gold in the Olympics, saving a massive disaster as
far as basketball is concerned. But Drew today was asked
if that Olympic gold medal meant more than his NBA championships. Now,
I remember you asked too, He's got one with Milwaukee
(01:37):
and Giannis's only ring and then goes to Boston. Traded
to Boston when the Bucks thought they were upgrading by
getting Damian Lillard, and all Drew does has helped Boston
win a championship.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It's first since two thousand and eight. Here's Drew on that.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
The Metal Affairs is cool. It was obviously kicks France,
so it was kind of like literally us against the world.
But winning here with a man, I'm not sure you
get the top step. That's meant there went here in
Boston and.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Five I mean craft the.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Shot they did, I mean it was just Also that
was amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The praise was crazy too, So.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
I can't I don't know, I feel like I'm still
on the high through everything going on.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Sound wasn't great, But he basically said, no, the ring
with the Celtics NBA championship meant more than winning that
Olympic gold medal. Now you contrast that with what Carmelo said.
Rob g was about two weeks ago Carmelo Anthony, and
he said, correct me if I'm wrong, he would not
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trade any of his what.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Four gold medals for one NBA championship before an NBA championship?
Was that? Was that the g just of what he said?
Speaker 7 (02:57):
That is correct?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And I really like Mellow Martin. I well, let me.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I was gonna say, I don't believe it, and I
really don't believe him, right, But I also think right
now where he's at and what with his basketball career
ending the way it did and without a ring, I
do think he probably is of the mentality of you
(03:32):
know what, I got something? Nope, does anybody else have
four reasons?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Durant?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think right has four goals medals? But for Mello,
like that's Mellow's claim to fame. It really is that
he won four Olympic gold medals and he was the
leading scorer and rebounder for a while. Now I think
he might be second in both, but like that's what
(03:58):
he can point to.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
So I think he's going to rise, you know, try
to push up.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The level of these Olympic gold medals and what they mean.
And look, I'm not the Olympics. Are the Olympics, right?
That's the world competition. The world stage is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
And for track stars, for.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Other people in other events, swimmers and all that, it's
the ultimate.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
For American basketball players, stop it it. I mean, you
better win.
Speaker 8 (04:38):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It's gonna change in twenty twenty eight when we probably
won't win. I mean, I'm just saying, but up recently,
up until this year, because this will probably be the
final year at least that we know we're gonna win,
you better win. You are on a stack team with
Hall of famers galore, playing against team teams that at
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best got five NBA players and most of them aren't
even stars. Serbia had what three, two or three NBA
players one star, and they almost beat you. So my
point is this, winning those Olympic gold medals is you
(05:22):
supposed to. Your team is stacked, it's much more talented
than any competition you're facing. So Drew Holliday is absolutely
right that an NBA championship for an American basketball player
means much more than winning an Olympic gold medal. Now,
(05:45):
if Serbia had beaten or even France had beaten America
this year, I kind of get if Joker would have been, like,
you know, what this takes the cake. I love the
championship with Denver, but this is the ultimate because he
was representing his not only his country. Obviously the American
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players are as well, but he would have really overcome something.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You would have really climbed the mountain. If you're Serbia.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And you're nicolea Jokic and you lead that cast of
solid but not great players to victory over Lebron, Steph KD,
Jason Tatum, so on and so forth. I would get
that or Luca with Slovenia, or Yanni's with you know,
(06:37):
with with.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Greece, or even when Banyama with France.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But America, I don't want to hear it because honestly, man,
y'all got it easy. And I know these games have
been tough, but they shouldn't be. Because Martin quickly this
last thing what sometimes people don't understand because we've talked
about the international rise and how they've really at least
the ultimate best players in the league right now are
(07:06):
for international players.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
But it's not like they're all playing together in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You're not facing an international dream team in the Olympics.
You're facing countries that are much smaller than the United
States that have far fewer NBA players on their teams,
and you're still struggling with them.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I'm done. Yeah, struggling.
Speaker 9 (07:29):
Struggling to me is a term I would not use
to qualify what happened in the actual tournament.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Really, yeah, France. They didn't struggle with France or with
uh Serbia. I wouldn't say not.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
And it's a.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Door down thirteen heading into the fourth quarter against Serbia.
That's not struggling.
Speaker 9 (07:47):
They won the game by double digits. Chris, Like, I
don't know, Like, I'm sorry they won the game by
double digits.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I get that they hold on.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You really gonna sit here and this isn't the argument,
but you really gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Say they didn't struggle with Surrey And did they win
that last game about double figures?
Speaker 7 (08:04):
I thought they did.
Speaker 9 (08:04):
But either way, I'm not trying to be I mean,
they were down seventeen, all right. But to get to
the point of what we're talking about, I think that
if I'm Drew Holliday, then absolutely my NBA titles, especially
the one I just got, means more than my Olympic
gold medal did, in part because when I'm playing like
(08:26):
all season last year.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
We were I was one of the most guilty of it.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
We're all talking about how the Boston Celtics have X
y Z, and then you know they have all of this,
the Desertatum doing it, Jalen Brown doing that, they lead
the league at three pointers made. But Joe Mazzoula, but
but but but but we got to see it in
the playoffs, and then they have one of the most
dominating Eastern Conference performances that we've seen up until the finals,
(08:51):
and people are like, well, they walked through the East
right now, I ended up getting a race essentially because
they also walked through the Mavericks. But if I'm Drew
Holliday here all the naysayers for a quarter of a
year as I'm progressing through that eighty two game regular
season and then a twenty or so game postseason.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah it would fire me up. But if I'm Carmelo.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
Anthony, like Carmelo Anthony is still without a title, without
an NBA title to his name, to me, still one
of the best to ever play the game, right. I
don't know if you know you want to rank them
all time, but when I watched him, when I watched
him play watch his whole career from high school to retirement,
and there was very few guys who could fill a
bucket up like Carmelo did, whether it be in the NBA,
(09:33):
the Olympics, or so on.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I would be I would It would make.
Speaker 9 (09:37):
Me sad, honestly, as a fan of the game to
know that Carmelo Anthony was not content with how his
career turned out, like he could have made different moves
that would have prioritized winning over money.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
And so I'm not.
Speaker 9 (09:50):
Here to relitigate his career. But still, you one of
the best to ever play the game. It made ungodly
amounts of money playing the game. You you can't look
at your career like a failure. In my opinion, if
you're called Mallo Anthony.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
He shouldn't. He shouldn't it shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think that's where he comes from with this fantastic career.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I think this is where this comes from. Though it's
like no, no, no, I got my gold medals.
Speaker 9 (10:12):
I wouldn't trade him for an NBA title because look
at all this stuff I was able to do in
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
If he was.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Sitting back saying I had trade all four for just
one chance at a title. It would honestly make me sad,
be like, damn, he's really not like to be to
reach that level of heightened pinnacle. And it still feel
like you left something on the table, which I mean
he did in terms of a championship, But you shouldn't
feel like you're less, like your career was less than
(10:38):
because of it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
But do you agree with me.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That he's just kind of saying that. I agree with
It's like a defense mechanism. You have to lift up
the value of the gold medals because you that's all
you really have as far as championships are concerned, right,
So I think that's why he's doing it. But in reality,
(11:04):
I look, can you imagine if Carmelo had a championship
how different his legacy would be? And it's great already.
He is Melo, was Tope, was mellow, was top seventy five.
He's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
But if he had won a championship, he would be in,
(11:26):
you know, held in even higher esteem. And by the way, Martin,
I don't know where you got double figures from. We
beat Serbia by four, all right, we beat We pummeled
him in the first two times we played them, but
we beat him by four when it counted.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
I just never thought that any of those games were
truly in question, Like I never he beat them by four.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 9 (11:46):
When I'm watching the Soudan we were down with ten
seconds left. Today was an exhibition game, okay, but still
I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
In the tournament. I mean, entering the fourth quarter, you
didn't think they had a chance.
Speaker 9 (12:00):
Within eight minutes left in the fourth quarter, I said, oh,
they're slipping. I said, oh, they're France is slipping. France
is not gonna hap this.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I was talking about Serbia.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
But yeah, I mean, look, those were tight games, those
were type games. But an Olympic gold medal, just because
you have such an advantage of talent, it doesn't mean
the same for the Olympic for the American teams.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I'm sorry. Now, I think going forward it'll be huge because.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
It's a great chance we don't win it in twenty
twenty eight, and if we do win, we won't enter
as a team where it's just viewed as a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Lebron will be gone. Steph Maye, you would think yes,
I think you're looking at Lebron They'll be watching, they'll.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Be done right, and so it's not a guarantee with
these other guys, But yeah, Drew Holliday's absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
The NBA championship.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Means more because because a lot of times, Martin, the
level of I don't want to say satisfaction but contentment
or just the great feeling you get from an achievement
is a lot of times related to the.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Challenge that you had to overcome.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And I think the Boston Celtics overcame a much bigger
challenge by winning the NBA title. Same thing for Milwaukee
when he won it, and I think it was twenty
twenty one than the US.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Team did in winning goal at the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
Hell and he played a bigger role.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, he had a legitimate role on Team USA,
but yeah, definitely a bigger role with Milwaukee and Boston.
All Right, it's the odd couple, Chris and Martin. We're
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nine on Fox, Carmelo Anthony says that he would not
(13:59):
trade any of his goal medals in the Olympics for
an NBA championship. Your thoughts on that next ocable eight
seven seven ninety nine.
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On Fox, You'll turn the way in Carmelo, Anthony says
he would not trade in any of his gold medals
for an NBA championship.
Speaker 9 (15:39):
Ring your thoughts, Let's go to Dwight in Kentucky. You're
on the odd couple on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Hey, I gotta doing doing well? Man? Man, oh, I
just want a quick answer. I think it's the NBA
Championship is more more important to the players. And actually
they don't have to say it with their mouths, of
their actions show it. Like how many times have you
ever heard the NBA players say I'm gonna shut out
the championship so get ready for the Olympics. You always
(16:08):
give players say I'm gonna sitt out the Olympics to
get get ready for the season, not even the championship,
just you know, right, even I even players don't even
have a chance on the team who is probably don't
have a chance to win the championship, but they will
still sit out the Olympics to make sure they're ready
for the season.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's true, no question. I mean, it's not even close
in my book, is not even closets.
Speaker 9 (16:30):
Go to Andre in Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Is it close in your book? Andre?
Speaker 7 (16:34):
What you got?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
My friend?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Uh to me?
Speaker 11 (16:38):
Thanks for taking a call. It's about as close as
the East is from the west. Not at all in
terms of the different in the NBA Championship and an
Olympic gold matter. What are we talking about here? These
dream teams they put together, it's basically a four gone
conclusion in reality the Olympics. It's anonymous with Wilt Chamberlain's
book Nobody Roots for Goliath. There's much more of a
(16:59):
of a fear and trepidation that you lose when you're
the overwhelming favorite versus when you win. That's what's what's
expected of you versus. For Carmelo Anthony, a championship will
really placed him in a much different category above the
Karl Malons, above the John Stocktons, the Patrick Ewings, the
Charles Barkleys of the world. If he was able to
secure a championship during the Lebron era, people would look
(17:21):
at him exceedingly different. Just look at Dirk Naviski, Okay,
that one championship, you know you just you look at
Dirk much different and he's not in that category and
he has much more of a gravitas. So Carmelo Anthony,
I think that's where he was able to kind of
get the monkey off of his back, you know, because frankly,
he had a little bit of a reputation kind of
like t Mac you know where like the second round
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doesn't happen. Somebody that never had really postseason success except
the one year when Chauncey Bilt was the blank guard.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I was gonna say, I'm gonna say this about Mellow
he and it's in hindsight because at the time it
didn't seem like a huge mistake. He never should have
left Denver, No, not in at the time, in the
way he did. They had got.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Remember to the Western Conference finals and really pushed the legs.
I actually thought they were.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
A better team than the Lakers that year, and they
had a really good chance to beat them with Chauncey
billups that point, and they lost and you.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Know, Mello never gave it another shot. But with a
point guard like Chauncey, who.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Was a great leader, would have you know, gotten Mello
to play the right way. Who knows, they might have
been able to win the championship. But I think it
was obviously in hindsight. I mean, he had no real
team success, you know, after after them.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
Yeah, so all right, let's go to Kevin in Culver City.
You're on the eye couple on Fox Sports Radio. What
you got, keV?
Speaker 12 (18:41):
God is good? What a wonderful worship Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
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Speaker 12 (18:46):
I just want to Sundt Mary for having Kendrick, having
our bad Kendrick Lamar. They will play not like us
twenty years from now for sure. And that might have
been the record of the year for a Grammy. How
about that?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Well that but.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Since you brought it up, and we not saying every
individual artist nowadays is not hot. But nineties hip hop
versus today, who you got?
Speaker 12 (19:08):
I'm an I'm an eighties baby, so I'm ninety hipop
all day, okay for sure. But look I came up
with Mellow. We came up in the league together. We
were young young men in this league. That's my boy.
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
No.
Speaker 12 (19:22):
I came up. I was in the front office, part
one of my best friends in the league who came
up together and a great, great, great great friend of mine.
And I'm just, you know, I'm calling balls and strikes
to love the dude. But he's casting because Mello would
give anything to win one of those championships, especially coming
up almost being the Lakers that you know, he ran
(19:43):
into Kobe. You know, Kobe went mom but he ran
up at assaulted in the New York team. The next
team he leaded, the Knicks, he ran out of Lebron
and and Wade and Boston Heato. So he just it's
just hard for me. Came up with Lebron, just like
you know those NIG season the night he's coming up
against Jordan, he just ran.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Into hold on Lebron, and look, Lebron is awesome. I
think he's the second best player ever. Lebron won four
championships in twenty twenty years. So let's not act like no,
you know, nobody was eating during the Lebron there.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Mello had his chances. He didn't get it done. It
wasn't just because Lebron.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I know, Lebron kept getting to the finals, but he
wasn't winning all the championships.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
And plus two.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
I mean, it's not like the reason why Carmelo kept
getting bumped out, like the Raptors kept getting bumped out
of the until because Lebron didn't even Ron lives to
the Lakers and the Raptors get to the finals the
next year.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It wasn't like that was the game. Mello even played
Lebron in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean, I would think and all those hit once
he played him once, yeah and lost for one.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Who was was that? The Knicks? Rob Ger Knicks? He yeah, yeah,
and obviously had no chance against that Heat team.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
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(22:25):
being a reporter, is the biggest Yankees homer in all
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Speaker 7 (22:29):
So let's get to it. Over the weekend, JR.
Speaker 13 (22:32):
The Yankees held their seventy sixth annual Old Timers Day. Afterward,
Dallas Rodriguez, who as you know, has a very complicated
relationship with the club, said he would love to be
added to the Monument Park, which is the franchise, is
the facto Hall of Fame. Here's the question, foul or
fair to say that a Rod belongs in Monument Park.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Foul?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That is a foul ball.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
I mean, I like Kay Rod. While he did win
the World Series, and he won two MVP and he
hit with thirty three homers at the age of thirty nine,
after a PD suspension that caused him to play this
forty four games in the previous two years, the Yankee
fans can say that Alex Rodrigas era don't fill with
turmoil and a cloud of PD suspension was successful. But
(23:20):
if I have to be honest, even though he played
more years with the Yankees, I think twelve than the
Rangers three in Seattle where he played Devin, where he
spent the first seven years of his career, he had
three hundred and fifty one of his six hundred and
ninety six career homers with the Yankees, I still don't
equate a Rod with the all time Yankee great.
Speaker 12 (23:39):
Those statues are usually.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
Reserved for home brown superstars or transcending pre agent pick
up like Reggie Jackson. So I'm a Yankee fan and
no offense to a Rod, who I love, but no brother,
not for one World Series Storrs.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I'm gonna say wow. I'm trying to remember how the
question was asked.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Valor say a Rod belongs in Monument Park.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I'm gonna say, with a little bit of hesitation, I'm
gonna say fair.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I mean a Rod was great for the Yankees their
last World Series that they won. Like you said, the
two MVPs had some phenomenal Aaron.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Judge type seasons with the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Now, obviously the pd US has spoiled everything, and that
would be the only reason that you would keep him out.
And if they say, like the Hall of Fames have said,
we're keeping him out because of the PDS or something,
I get that. I can't argue with that, But just
judging off his baseball, I think the dude was phenomenal
(24:48):
for the Yankees and should deserve.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
To be in there.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
Y'all say it's fair.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
The only hang up for me is the PEDS.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
If you want to hold him out for that, then sure,
But when you look at the multiple MVPs, like Chris said,
the last World Series that he's won, and then just
his individual time there, you know, he only hit below
two seventy once in that entire time he was in
New York, so he also played he was at the
best some of his best years in New York. So
that's that's why I go with, uh, that's a fair
(25:17):
to me.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
All right? Question number two.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
ESPN's Jeff Passon published his free agency primer today, and
folks around Major League Baseball court and him say that
the floor, the bare minimum, the talking point, the starting
point for Juan Soto's next contract will be five hundred
million dollars now entering Tuesday's action, that was yesterday, he
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was slashing two ninety six four twenty seven, six hundred
with thirty seven homers, ninety five RBI and ops of
one point h twenty seven and one hundred and nine walks.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Most of which are all career high. So we picked
the perfect time to a free agency JR.
Speaker 13 (25:56):
Foul or fair to say that Soto deserves again at
least five hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Fair, it's a full ball.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
I mean, if that's the going rate, then sure there's
only a certain number of teams that are going to
pay him more than five hundred million dollars. But I
eliminate twenty percent of the league, and I think he
won't go to probably eighty percent of the league no
matter what they offer him after playing for the Yankees.
But I think definitely perform at a high level, especially
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in the postseason, is necessary for everything to go smoothly
for him this offseason. There's been a mention of him
going to the Mets and other teams, but let's be honest,
if he's having success in New York with the Yankees,
it really gets no better than that. And you stay relevant,
ask many Machado, who who over that guy?
Speaker 12 (26:47):
That guy the market?
Speaker 13 (26:48):
Will you know?
Speaker 8 (26:49):
The market's going to command five hundred million piso though,
But I don't want to hear anything about the Yankee
trying to act funny after you know, acting funny with
given judge three hundred sixty millions. So I'm not sure
the new Yankee I'm gonna go much higher than five
hundred million. So it would serve him well to do
damage this postseason. So they don't think about that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, I think it's fair. The dude's been great. He's
having a solid, you know, more than a solid year.
You brought up the numbers, and that is as Jr. Said,
that's the going rate, and the Yankees should do it.
He's a big name, he's producing, and for him, I
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would want to stay with the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Like you talked about relevance, Jr.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
And it is right.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You can go elsewhere and disappear even if you're playing well.
And so yeah, I do think though that's fair that
he should get that much.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
I'll say fair as well. But I would say though
if in fact the Yankees ball on him a little bit.
I and you know, like you said, what happened to
him and Chatto, Like let's say the Padres, for example,
offered him five hundred million and the Yankees are for
four to fifty. I'm staying in New York just because
the relevance well, I mean no, I feel you. The
relevancy and playing next to Judge, I'm I think that's undeniable.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Just quickly here you can make money off the field
and even post career and all that.
Speaker 13 (28:15):
Well, taking out Otani because he's the two sports are
two Way Star the next closest contract recently Aaron Judge
three to sixty right, so that's a big jump three
sixty to five hundred.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
But last one Fowler Fair Jr.
Speaker 13 (28:30):
Gamble sitting in with Martin Weiss and Chris Breustard the
Yankees themed edition in honor of Rob Parker entering entering
the Tuesday's action again they lost early to night the
Yankees did. Aaron Judge was on pace for sixty three homers,
one hundred and eighty eight hits, one hundred and twenty
eight runs, and one hundred and fifty rbi. Sammy Sosa
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is the only player ever to reach those totals in
the season twice, one hundred and twenty eight, one hundred
and twenty eight runs at one hundred and fifty rbi.
Sammy Sosa did twice, but Aaron Judges advanced dats. As
you know, these guys living nowadays, they blow Sammy's out
of the water.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
It's not even close. So Jr.
Speaker 13 (29:13):
Foul or fair to say that Aaron Judge is currently
in the midst of the greatest single offensive season ever.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Foul.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
That is a foul ball.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
Now we know Mary Lamar Bond seventy three home season
is probably the greatest.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Offensive season ever.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
No better in my lifetime's ever been as fear as precise,
as ball obliterating and dominant as Bond during his peak.
Especially in O one, dude slugged eight sixty three and
had a one point three seventy eight ops. Judges having
an all time great offensive season. Yes, but he's slugging
almost one hundred points less point seventy three to two
(29:57):
than Bond did in OH one. And let's be honest,
by two thousand and four, they just stopped pitching to Bonds,
completely walked him two hundred and thirty two times in
one season, only got a chance to hit forty five
dingers that season and plumped over eight hundred again. So
Justin's never really come close to the type of season
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that Bonds has had at his peak. He's still cutting
below the Bagbond offensive levels, but don't work kind of
ped eighted. So it's talking just clean maybe maybe just yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
It Look, it's hard to go through the whole history
of the league off the top of your head.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
And I agree with JR. That Barry Bonds had I mean,
those years were the best. That was cartoonish. I mean,
really like, those are the best years we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But it was you know, even though he didn't fail
a test, we know it was ped enhanced. You mentioned
Sammy Sosa ped hands. I'm gonna look Alex Rod Reganz
in his last MVP season of two thousand and seven
with the Yankees. You said Judges on pace for one
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hundred and twenty eight runs. Right, A Rod had one
hundred and forty three runs that year, have fifty four homers.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Now we'll see if Judge gets.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
To sixty three one hundred and fifty six RBI, which
is on pace to be more than Judges on pace
for right and hit three fourteen. I know Judge is
hitting like three thirty three, but you don't that's a
season now, his you know, advanced numbers aren't quite as
high as Judges.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
But again, even with a Rod, there's the steroid question.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So I again, without looking at the whole history of
the league, and you know, looking at all of Willie
Mays and seasons and Hank Aaron's and all that, it's
fair to say it that he might be having the
greatest hitting season we've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I'll go foul among no, you know, with no PD suspicions,
I'll go foul.
Speaker 9 (32:08):
That is a foul ball in part, you know everybody
here is complaining about the peds, but also what you're
not talking about his Yankee stadium. How many of Aaron
Judges home runs right now would not be home runs
if he played for the Royals instead of playing for
the Yankee I mean, I'm not saying it's his fault, Chris,
I'm not saying it's his fault. All I'm saying is
that's why I say it's foul, is that he's the
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best of all time right now when he's hit the
majority of his homers at home, which has the shortest
porch in baseball.
Speaker 13 (32:34):
Hey, we don't blame the Packers are playing at Lambeau.
That is foulor fair. Shout out JR.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Games this let's take away fifty five hundred of his homers.
All right, Thank you Jr. Thank you man. We are
way behind. We out a couple of Fox Sports Radio.
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right after we get off the air. Now, Martin Weiss,
are you excited about the Colorado Buffalos as they open
the season tomorrow night against North Dakota State. Now North
Dakota State of course in the FBS what used to
be Division one Double Aye.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
But Colorado better not take them lightly.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Oh, we'll take them lightly, they're better.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
Yeah, I mean just think about first round quarterbacks out
of North Dakota State out of Colorado in the last
five years, our ten years, Trey Lance Carson Carson wiz Yeah, yeah,
So North quarter Is has an idea. But when you
come out like Colorado and with the attitude and the
braggadocio and the nope, like essentially who's got a better
than us attitude? You better go out there and pound
(34:10):
the North Dakota State Bison and not no nerve. Take
them seriously, you better go out there and put them
into the ground.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, and they got a lot of motivation.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Look, obviously, Dion's had his battles with the media recently
and they've killed a lot of flat and so they
should use all of this as motivation. If they have
to take us against the world mentality, then so be it.
But they gotta go out there and stump a mud
(34:41):
hole in North Dakota State. I don't care how good
they are. And they won a few national championships at that,
you know, second tier level, but they're at that second
tier level. FBS, you're fcs and I know you're not
a powerhouse, but you better go out there and rock
these boys, should it.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
It's supposed to be a future NFL quarterback. Go stomp
these boys.
Speaker 9 (35:05):
Yeah, this should be a game in which you talk
about your door Travis Hunter on them. They're sitting by
the at least midway through the fourth quarter, right, that
type of game this should be if you're in Colorado
and you got the high level talent that we've been
led to believe that they do. So that that's where
I settled on it. I just college football is like
the Olympics in the same way we were talking about
(35:25):
it earlier. You're not judged on winning, You're todged on
margin of victory. You're todd on how did it look right?
Because just beating South tou Dan was not enough or right?
Just easn just beating North Dakota States that could be enough.
You're gonna go out to go out there and beat
them by margin?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, no, no doubt. Now what are you expecting from
Colorado this season?
Speaker 9 (35:45):
I think if they get six wins and everybody should
be happy about it.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Quite honest, I agree.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
I think that they are looking at about five right now,
tomorrow being one of them.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
But five wow, six wins would be a nice season
coming up from f But yeah, it's gonna be interesting,
all right, Martin Weis's great stuff. You'll be back tomorrow, right, uh, Friday,
I believe Friday.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
So eave from.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
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up at the bottom of the hour, but for now, Martin,
let's go to a little hoop basketball and Drew Holliday,
who of course played a significant role starter for the
most part with Team USA as they won gold this year.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
They they.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Wanted boy the hair on their chinny chin chin, but
they did.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Win gold in the Olympics, saving a massive disaster as
far as basketball is concerned. But Drew today was asked
if that Olympic gold medal meant more than his NBA championships. Now,
I remember you asked too, He's got one with Milwaukee
(01:37):
and Giannis's only ring and then goes to Boston. Traded
to Boston when the Bucks thought they were upgrading by
getting Damian Lillard, and all Drew does has helped Boston
win a championship.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It's first since two thousand and eight. Here's Drew on that.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
The Metal Affairs is cool. It was obviously kicks France,
so it was kind of like literally us against the world.
But winning here with a man, I'm not sure you
get the top step. That's meant there went here in
Boston and.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Five I mean craft the.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Shot they did, I mean it was just Also that
was amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The praise was crazy too, So.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
I can't I don't know, I feel like I'm still
on the high through everything going on.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Sound wasn't great, But he basically said, no, the ring
with the Celtics NBA championship meant more than winning that
Olympic gold medal. Now you contrast that with what Carmelo said.
Rob g was about two weeks ago Carmelo Anthony, and
he said, correct me if I'm wrong, he would not
(02:47):
trade any of his what.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Four gold medals for one NBA championship before an NBA championship?
Was that? Was that the g just of what he said?
Speaker 7 (02:57):
That is correct?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And I really like Mellow Martin. I well, let me.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I was gonna say, I don't believe it, and I
really don't believe him, right, But I also think right
now where he's at and what with his basketball career
ending the way it did and without a ring, I
do think he probably is of the mentality of you
(03:32):
know what, I got something? Nope, does anybody else have
four reasons?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Durant?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think right has four goals medals? But for Mello,
like that's Mellow's claim to fame. It really is that
he won four Olympic gold medals and he was the
leading scorer and rebounder for a while. Now I think
he might be second in both, but like that's what
(03:58):
he can point to.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
So I think he's going to rise, you know, try
to push up.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The level of these Olympic gold medals and what they mean.
And look, I'm not the Olympics. Are the Olympics, right?
That's the world competition. The world stage is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
And for track stars, for.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Other people in other events, swimmers and all that, it's
the ultimate.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
For American basketball players, stop it it. I mean, you
better win.
Speaker 8 (04:38):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It's gonna change in twenty twenty eight when we probably
won't win. I mean, I'm just saying, but up recently,
up until this year, because this will probably be the
final year at least that we know we're gonna win,
you better win. You are on a stack team with
Hall of famers galore, playing against team teams that at
(05:01):
best got five NBA players and most of them aren't
even stars. Serbia had what three, two or three NBA
players one star, and they almost beat you. So my
point is this, winning those Olympic gold medals is you
(05:22):
supposed to. Your team is stacked, it's much more talented
than any competition you're facing. So Drew Holliday is absolutely
right that an NBA championship for an American basketball player
means much more than winning an Olympic gold medal. Now,
(05:45):
if Serbia had beaten or even France had beaten America
this year, I kind of get if Joker would have been, like,
you know, what this takes the cake. I love the
championship with Denver, but this is the ultimate because he
was representing his not only his country. Obviously the American
(06:07):
players are as well, but he would have really overcome something.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You would have really climbed the mountain. If you're Serbia.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And you're nicolea Jokic and you lead that cast of
solid but not great players to victory over Lebron, Steph KD,
Jason Tatum, so on and so forth. I would get
that or Luca with Slovenia, or Yanni's with you know,
(06:37):
with with.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Greece, or even when Banyama with France.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But America, I don't want to hear it because honestly, man,
y'all got it easy. And I know these games have
been tough, but they shouldn't be. Because Martin quickly this
last thing what sometimes people don't understand because we've talked
about the international rise and how they've really at least
the ultimate best players in the league right now are
(07:06):
for international players.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
But it's not like they're all playing together in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You're not facing an international dream team in the Olympics.
You're facing countries that are much smaller than the United
States that have far fewer NBA players on their teams,
and you're still struggling with them.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I'm done. Yeah, struggling.
Speaker 9 (07:29):
Struggling to me is a term I would not use
to qualify what happened in the actual tournament.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Really, yeah, France. They didn't struggle with France or with
uh Serbia. I wouldn't say not.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
And it's a.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Door down thirteen heading into the fourth quarter against Serbia.
That's not struggling.
Speaker 9 (07:47):
They won the game by double digits. Chris, Like, I
don't know, Like, I'm sorry they won the game by
double digits.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I get that they hold on.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You really gonna sit here and this isn't the argument,
but you really gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Say they didn't struggle with Surrey And did they win
that last game about double figures?
Speaker 7 (08:04):
I thought they did.
Speaker 9 (08:04):
But either way, I'm not trying to be I mean,
they were down seventeen, all right. But to get to
the point of what we're talking about, I think that
if I'm Drew Holliday, then absolutely my NBA titles, especially
the one I just got, means more than my Olympic
gold medal did, in part because when I'm playing like
(08:26):
all season last year.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
We were I was one of the most guilty of it.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
We're all talking about how the Boston Celtics have X
y Z, and then you know they have all of this,
the Desertatum doing it, Jalen Brown doing that, they lead
the league at three pointers made. But Joe Mazzoula, but
but but but but we got to see it in
the playoffs, and then they have one of the most
dominating Eastern Conference performances that we've seen up until the finals,
(08:51):
and people are like, well, they walked through the East
right now, I ended up getting a race essentially because
they also walked through the Mavericks. But if I'm Drew
Holliday here all the naysayers for a quarter of a
year as I'm progressing through that eighty two game regular
season and then a twenty or so game postseason.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah it would fire me up. But if I'm Carmelo.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
Anthony, like Carmelo Anthony is still without a title, without
an NBA title to his name, to me, still one
of the best to ever play the game, right. I
don't know if you know you want to rank them
all time, but when I watched him, when I watched
him play watch his whole career from high school to retirement,
and there was very few guys who could fill a
bucket up like Carmelo did, whether it be in the NBA,
(09:33):
the Olympics, or so on.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I would be I would It would make.
Speaker 9 (09:37):
Me sad, honestly, as a fan of the game to
know that Carmelo Anthony was not content with how his
career turned out, like he could have made different moves
that would have prioritized winning over money.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
And so I'm not.
Speaker 9 (09:50):
Here to relitigate his career. But still, you one of
the best to ever play the game. It made ungodly
amounts of money playing the game. You you can't look
at your career like a failure. In my opinion, if
you're called Mallo Anthony.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
He shouldn't. He shouldn't it shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think that's where he comes from with this fantastic career.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I think this is where this comes from. Though it's
like no, no, no, I got my gold medals.
Speaker 9 (10:12):
I wouldn't trade him for an NBA title because look
at all this stuff I was able to do in
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
If he was.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Sitting back saying I had trade all four for just
one chance at a title. It would honestly make me sad,
be like, damn, he's really not like to be to
reach that level of heightened pinnacle. And it still feel
like you left something on the table, which I mean
he did in terms of a championship, But you shouldn't
feel like you're less, like your career was less than
(10:38):
because of it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
But do you agree with me.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That he's just kind of saying that. I agree with
It's like a defense mechanism. You have to lift up
the value of the gold medals because you that's all
you really have as far as championships are concerned, right,
So I think that's why he's doing it. But in reality,
(11:04):
I look, can you imagine if Carmelo had a championship
how different his legacy would be? And it's great already.
He is Melo, was Tope, was mellow, was top seventy five.
He's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
But if he had won a championship, he would be in,
(11:26):
you know, held in even higher esteem. And by the way, Martin,
I don't know where you got double figures from. We
beat Serbia by four, all right, we beat We pummeled
him in the first two times we played them, but
we beat him by four when it counted.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
I just never thought that any of those games were
truly in question, Like I never he beat them by four.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 9 (11:46):
When I'm watching the Soudan we were down with ten
seconds left. Today was an exhibition game, okay, but still
I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
In the tournament. I mean, entering the fourth quarter, you
didn't think they had a chance.
Speaker 9 (12:00):
Within eight minutes left in the fourth quarter, I said, oh,
they're slipping. I said, oh, they're France is slipping. France
is not gonna hap this.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I was talking about Serbia.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
But yeah, I mean, look, those were tight games, those
were type games. But an Olympic gold medal, just because
you have such an advantage of talent, it doesn't mean
the same for the Olympic for the American teams.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I'm sorry. Now, I think going forward it'll be huge because.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
It's a great chance we don't win it in twenty
twenty eight, and if we do win, we won't enter
as a team where it's just viewed as a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Lebron will be gone. Steph Maye, you would think yes,
I think you're looking at Lebron They'll be watching, they'll.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Be done right, and so it's not a guarantee with
these other guys, But yeah, Drew Holliday's absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
The NBA championship.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Means more because because a lot of times, Martin, the
level of I don't want to say satisfaction but contentment
or just the great feeling you get from an achievement
is a lot of times related to the.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Challenge that you had to overcome.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And I think the Boston Celtics overcame a much bigger
challenge by winning the NBA title. Same thing for Milwaukee
when he won it, and I think it was twenty
twenty one than the US.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Team did in winning goal at the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
Hell and he played a bigger role.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, he had a legitimate role on Team USA,
but yeah, definitely a bigger role with Milwaukee and Boston.
All Right, it's the odd couple, Chris and Martin. We're
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(13:59):
trade any of his goal medals in the Olympics for
an NBA championship. Your thoughts on that next ocable eight
seven seven ninety nine.
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On Fox, You'll turn the way in Carmelo, Anthony says
he would not trade in any of his gold medals
for an NBA championship.
Speaker 9 (15:39):
Ring your thoughts, Let's go to Dwight in Kentucky. You're
on the odd couple on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Hey, I gotta doing doing well? Man? Man, oh, I
just want a quick answer. I think it's the NBA
Championship is more more important to the players. And actually
they don't have to say it with their mouths, of
their actions show it. Like how many times have you
ever heard the NBA players say I'm gonna shut out
the championship so get ready for the Olympics. You always
(16:08):
give players say I'm gonna sitt out the Olympics to
get get ready for the season, not even the championship,
just you know, right, even I even players don't even
have a chance on the team who is probably don't
have a chance to win the championship, but they will
still sit out the Olympics to make sure they're ready
for the season.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's true, no question. I mean, it's not even close
in my book, is not even closets.
Speaker 9 (16:30):
Go to Andre in Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Is it close in your book? Andre?
Speaker 7 (16:34):
What you got?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
My friend?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Uh to me?
Speaker 11 (16:38):
Thanks for taking a call. It's about as close as
the East is from the west. Not at all in
terms of the different in the NBA Championship and an
Olympic gold matter. What are we talking about here? These
dream teams they put together, it's basically a four gone
conclusion in reality the Olympics. It's anonymous with Wilt Chamberlain's
book Nobody Roots for Goliath. There's much more of a
(16:59):
of a fear and trepidation that you lose when you're
the overwhelming favorite versus when you win. That's what's what's
expected of you versus. For Carmelo Anthony, a championship will
really placed him in a much different category above the
Karl Malons, above the John Stocktons, the Patrick Ewings, the
Charles Barkleys of the world. If he was able to
secure a championship during the Lebron era, people would look
(17:21):
at him exceedingly different. Just look at Dirk Naviski, Okay,
that one championship, you know you just you look at
Dirk much different and he's not in that category and
he has much more of a gravitas. So Carmelo Anthony,
I think that's where he was able to kind of
get the monkey off of his back, you know, because frankly,
he had a little bit of a reputation kind of
like t Mac you know where like the second round
(17:41):
doesn't happen. Somebody that never had really postseason success except
the one year when Chauncey Bilt was the blank guard.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I was gonna say, I'm gonna say this about Mellow
he and it's in hindsight because at the time it
didn't seem like a huge mistake. He never should have
left Denver, No, not in at the time, in the
way he did. They had got.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Remember to the Western Conference finals and really pushed the legs.
I actually thought they were.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
A better team than the Lakers that year, and they
had a really good chance to beat them with Chauncey
billups that point, and they lost and you.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Know, Mello never gave it another shot. But with a
point guard like Chauncey, who.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Was a great leader, would have you know, gotten Mello
to play the right way. Who knows, they might have
been able to win the championship. But I think it
was obviously in hindsight. I mean, he had no real
team success, you know, after after them.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
Yeah, so all right, let's go to Kevin in Culver City.
You're on the eye couple on Fox Sports Radio. What
you got, keV?
Speaker 12 (18:41):
God is good? What a wonderful worship Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Sir, Hey, real quick.
Speaker 12 (18:46):
I just want to Sundt Mary for having Kendrick, having
our bad Kendrick Lamar. They will play not like us
twenty years from now for sure. And that might have
been the record of the year for a Grammy. How
about that?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Well that but.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Since you brought it up, and we not saying every
individual artist nowadays is not hot. But nineties hip hop
versus today, who you got?
Speaker 12 (19:08):
I'm an I'm an eighties baby, so I'm ninety hipop
all day, okay for sure. But look I came up
with Mellow. We came up in the league together. We
were young young men in this league. That's my boy.
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
No.
Speaker 12 (19:22):
I came up. I was in the front office, part
one of my best friends in the league who came
up together and a great, great, great great friend of mine.
And I'm just, you know, I'm calling balls and strikes
to love the dude. But he's casting because Mello would
give anything to win one of those championships, especially coming
up almost being the Lakers that you know, he ran
(19:43):
into Kobe. You know, Kobe went mom but he ran
up at assaulted in the New York team. The next
team he leaded, the Knicks, he ran out of Lebron
and and Wade and Boston Heato. So he just it's
just hard for me. Came up with Lebron, just like
you know those NIG season the night he's coming up
against Jordan, he just ran.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Into hold on Lebron, and look, Lebron is awesome. I
think he's the second best player ever. Lebron won four
championships in twenty twenty years. So let's not act like no,
you know, nobody was eating during the Lebron there.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Mello had his chances. He didn't get it done. It
wasn't just because Lebron.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I know, Lebron kept getting to the finals, but he
wasn't winning all the championships.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
And plus two.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
I mean, it's not like the reason why Carmelo kept
getting bumped out, like the Raptors kept getting bumped out
of the until because Lebron didn't even Ron lives to
the Lakers and the Raptors get to the finals the
next year.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It wasn't like that was the game. Mello even played
Lebron in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean, I would think and all those hit once
he played him once, yeah and lost for one.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Who was was that? The Knicks? Rob Ger Knicks? He yeah, yeah,
and obviously had no chance against that Heat team.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
All right, it is the eye couple. We got foul
or fair with JR. Gamble around the corner.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
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Speaker 1 (21:13):
We're live from the tireg dot com studios, this time
for foul Affair with JR.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Gamble.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
That ball is It was a big week in the
big leagues.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Who's a five?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Is it foul or is it fair? And now from
mlbanbro dot com, here's JR. Gamble.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
That's right, it is Fowler fair.
Speaker 13 (21:38):
Here on the Akaba Fox Sports Radio second were we
go around the diamond discuss all the biggest headlines in
Major League Baseball.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
In order to do so properly, we had to bring
in a real expert, a guy.
Speaker 13 (21:46):
Who is not gallivanting the country trying to get more
radio and TV baseball gigs, but a guy who was
committed to this thing that we do here on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
My guy, JR.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Gamble, what's up? Fellas?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Call me anything but dad?
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Wow.
Speaker 13 (22:05):
Oh, you don't have to worry about that, right, All right, guys,
I got three baseball theme questions, and because JR. Is
the star of the segment, he gets the first crack
at every single one of them. In honor of the
late great Rob Parker, they didn't really go anywhere. He's
not lad, He's just not here. All of these topics
are New York Yankees related, because you know, Rob, for
(22:25):
being a reporter, is the biggest Yankees homer in all
of sports media.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
So let's get to it. Over the weekend, JR.
Speaker 13 (22:32):
The Yankees held their seventy sixth annual Old Timers Day. Afterward,
Dallas Rodriguez, who as you know, has a very complicated
relationship with the club, said he would love to be
added to the Monument Park, which is the franchise, is
the facto Hall of Fame. Here's the question, foul or
fair to say that a Rod belongs in Monument Park.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Foul?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That is a foul ball.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
I mean, I like Kay Rod. While he did win
the World Series, and he won two MVP and he
hit with thirty three homers at the age of thirty nine,
after a PD suspension that caused him to play this
forty four games in the previous two years, the Yankee
fans can say that Alex Rodrigas era don't fill with
turmoil and a cloud of PD suspension was successful. But
(23:20):
if I have to be honest, even though he played
more years with the Yankees, I think twelve than the
Rangers three in Seattle where he played Devin, where he
spent the first seven years of his career, he had
three hundred and fifty one of his six hundred and
ninety six career homers with the Yankees, I still don't
equate a Rod with the all time Yankee great.
Speaker 12 (23:39):
Those statues are usually.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
Reserved for home brown superstars or transcending pre agent pick
up like Reggie Jackson. So I'm a Yankee fan and
no offense to a Rod, who I love, but no brother,
not for one World Series Storrs.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I'm gonna say wow. I'm trying to remember how the
question was asked.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Valor say a Rod belongs in Monument Park.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I'm gonna say, with a little bit of hesitation, I'm
gonna say fair.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I mean a Rod was great for the Yankees their
last World Series that they won. Like you said, the
two MVPs had some phenomenal Aaron.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Judge type seasons with the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Now, obviously the pd US has spoiled everything, and that
would be the only reason that you would keep him out.
And if they say, like the Hall of Fames have said,
we're keeping him out because of the PDS or something,
I get that. I can't argue with that, But just
judging off his baseball, I think the dude was phenomenal
(24:48):
for the Yankees and should deserve.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
To be in there.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
Y'all say it's fair.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
The only hang up for me is the PEDS.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
If you want to hold him out for that, then sure,
But when you look at the multiple MVPs, like Chris said,
the last World Series that he's won, and then just
his individual time there, you know, he only hit below
two seventy once in that entire time he was in
New York, so he also played he was at the
best some of his best years in New York. So
that's that's why I go with, uh, that's a fair
(25:17):
to me.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
All right? Question number two.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
ESPN's Jeff Passon published his free agency primer today, and
folks around Major League Baseball court and him say that
the floor, the bare minimum, the talking point, the starting
point for Juan Soto's next contract will be five hundred
million dollars now entering Tuesday's action, that was yesterday, he
(25:42):
was slashing two ninety six four twenty seven, six hundred
with thirty seven homers, ninety five RBI and ops of
one point h twenty seven and one hundred and nine walks.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Most of which are all career high. So we picked
the perfect time to a free agency JR.
Speaker 13 (25:56):
Foul or fair to say that Soto deserves again at
least five hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Fair, it's a full ball.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
I mean, if that's the going rate, then sure there's
only a certain number of teams that are going to
pay him more than five hundred million dollars. But I
eliminate twenty percent of the league, and I think he
won't go to probably eighty percent of the league no
matter what they offer him after playing for the Yankees.
But I think definitely perform at a high level, especially
(26:28):
in the postseason, is necessary for everything to go smoothly
for him this offseason. There's been a mention of him
going to the Mets and other teams, but let's be honest,
if he's having success in New York with the Yankees,
it really gets no better than that. And you stay relevant,
ask many Machado, who who over that guy?
Speaker 12 (26:47):
That guy the market?
Speaker 13 (26:48):
Will you know?
Speaker 8 (26:49):
The market's going to command five hundred million piso though,
But I don't want to hear anything about the Yankee
trying to act funny after you know, acting funny with
given judge three hundred sixty millions. So I'm not sure
the new Yankee I'm gonna go much higher than five
hundred million. So it would serve him well to do
damage this postseason. So they don't think about that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, I think it's fair. The dude's been great. He's
having a solid, you know, more than a solid year.
You brought up the numbers, and that is as Jr. Said,
that's the going rate, and the Yankees should do it.
He's a big name, he's producing, and for him, I
(27:32):
would want to stay with the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Like you talked about relevance, Jr.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
And it is right.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You can go elsewhere and disappear even if you're playing well.
And so yeah, I do think though that's fair that
he should get that much.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
I'll say fair as well. But I would say though
if in fact the Yankees ball on him a little bit.
I and you know, like you said, what happened to
him and Chatto, Like let's say the Padres, for example,
offered him five hundred million and the Yankees are for
four to fifty. I'm staying in New York just because
the relevance well, I mean no, I feel you. The
relevancy and playing next to Judge, I'm I think that's undeniable.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Just quickly here you can make money off the field
and even post career and all that.
Speaker 13 (28:15):
Well, taking out Otani because he's the two sports are
two Way Star the next closest contract recently Aaron Judge
three to sixty right, so that's a big jump three
sixty to five hundred.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
But last one Fowler Fair Jr.
Speaker 13 (28:30):
Gamble sitting in with Martin Weiss and Chris Breustard the
Yankees themed edition in honor of Rob Parker entering entering
the Tuesday's action again they lost early to night the
Yankees did. Aaron Judge was on pace for sixty three homers,
one hundred and eighty eight hits, one hundred and twenty
eight runs, and one hundred and fifty rbi. Sammy Sosa
(28:52):
is the only player ever to reach those totals in
the season twice, one hundred and twenty eight, one hundred
and twenty eight runs at one hundred and fifty rbi.
Sammy Sosa did twice, but Aaron Judges advanced dats. As
you know, these guys living nowadays, they blow Sammy's out
of the water.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
It's not even close. So Jr.
Speaker 13 (29:13):
Foul or fair to say that Aaron Judge is currently
in the midst of the greatest single offensive season ever.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Foul.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
That is a foul ball.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
Now we know Mary Lamar Bond seventy three home season
is probably the greatest.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Offensive season ever.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
No better in my lifetime's ever been as fear as precise,
as ball obliterating and dominant as Bond during his peak.
Especially in O one, dude slugged eight sixty three and
had a one point three seventy eight ops. Judges having
an all time great offensive season. Yes, but he's slugging
almost one hundred points less point seventy three to two
(29:57):
than Bond did in OH one. And let's be honest,
by two thousand and four, they just stopped pitching to Bonds,
completely walked him two hundred and thirty two times in
one season, only got a chance to hit forty five
dingers that season and plumped over eight hundred again. So
Justin's never really come close to the type of season
(30:18):
that Bonds has had at his peak. He's still cutting
below the Bagbond offensive levels, but don't work kind of
ped eighted. So it's talking just clean maybe maybe just yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
It Look, it's hard to go through the whole history
of the league off the top of your head.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
And I agree with JR. That Barry Bonds had I mean,
those years were the best. That was cartoonish. I mean,
really like, those are the best years we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But it was you know, even though he didn't fail
a test, we know it was ped enhanced. You mentioned
Sammy Sosa ped hands. I'm gonna look Alex Rod Reganz
in his last MVP season of two thousand and seven
with the Yankees. You said Judges on pace for one
(31:11):
hundred and twenty eight runs. Right, A Rod had one
hundred and forty three runs that year, have fifty four homers.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Now we'll see if Judge gets.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
To sixty three one hundred and fifty six RBI, which
is on pace to be more than Judges on pace
for right and hit three fourteen. I know Judge is
hitting like three thirty three, but you don't that's a
season now, his you know, advanced numbers aren't quite as
high as Judges.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
But again, even with a Rod, there's the steroid question.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So I again, without looking at the whole history of
the league, and you know, looking at all of Willie
Mays and seasons and Hank Aaron's and all that, it's
fair to say it that he might be having the
greatest hitting season we've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I'll go foul among no, you know, with no PD suspicions,
I'll go foul.
Speaker 9 (32:08):
That is a foul ball in part, you know everybody
here is complaining about the peds, but also what you're
not talking about his Yankee stadium. How many of Aaron
Judges home runs right now would not be home runs
if he played for the Royals instead of playing for
the Yankee I mean, I'm not saying it's his fault, Chris,
I'm not saying it's his fault. All I'm saying is
that's why I say it's foul, is that he's the
(32:28):
best of all time right now when he's hit the
majority of his homers at home, which has the shortest
porch in baseball.
Speaker 13 (32:34):
Hey, we don't blame the Packers are playing at Lambeau.
That is foulor fair. Shout out JR.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Games this let's take away fifty five hundred of his homers.
All right, Thank you Jr. Thank you man. We are
way behind. We out a couple of Fox Sports Radio.
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All right, we're live.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
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right after we get off the air. Now, Martin Weiss,
are you excited about the Colorado Buffalos as they open
the season tomorrow night against North Dakota State. Now North
Dakota State of course in the FBS what used to
be Division one Double Aye.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
But Colorado better not take them lightly.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Oh, we'll take them lightly, they're better.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
Yeah, I mean just think about first round quarterbacks out
of North Dakota State out of Colorado in the last
five years, our ten years, Trey Lance Carson Carson wiz Yeah, yeah,
So North quarter Is has an idea. But when you
come out like Colorado and with the attitude and the
braggadocio and the nope, like essentially who's got a better
than us attitude? You better go out there and pound
(34:10):
the North Dakota State Bison and not no nerve. Take
them seriously, you better go out there and put them
into the ground.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, and they got a lot of motivation.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Look, obviously, Dion's had his battles with the media recently
and they've killed a lot of flat and so they
should use all of this as motivation. If they have
to take us against the world mentality, then so be it.
But they gotta go out there and stump a mud
(34:41):
hole in North Dakota State. I don't care how good
they are. And they won a few national championships at that,
you know, second tier level, but they're at that second
tier level. FBS, you're fcs and I know you're not
a powerhouse, but you better go out there and rock
these boys, should it.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
It's supposed to be a future NFL quarterback. Go stomp
these boys.
Speaker 9 (35:05):
Yeah, this should be a game in which you talk
about your door Travis Hunter on them. They're sitting by
the at least midway through the fourth quarter, right, that
type of game this should be if you're in Colorado
and you got the high level talent that we've been
led to believe that they do. So that that's where
I settled on it. I just college football is like
the Olympics in the same way we were talking about
(35:25):
it earlier. You're not judged on winning, You're todged on
margin of victory. You're todd on how did it look right?
Because just beating South tou Dan was not enough or right?
Just easn just beating North Dakota States that could be enough.
You're gonna go out to go out there and beat
them by margin?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, no, no doubt. Now what are you expecting from
Colorado this season?
Speaker 9 (35:45):
I think if they get six wins and everybody should
be happy about it.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Quite honest, I agree.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
I think that they are looking at about five right now,
tomorrow being one of them.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
But five wow, six wins would be a nice season
coming up from f But yeah, it's gonna be interesting,
all right, Martin Weis's great stuff. You'll be back tomorrow, right, uh, Friday,
I believe Friday.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
So eave from.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Salim in tomorrow and then Martin weiss Is again on Friday. Yes, sir, brother,
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