August 29, 2024 • 34 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host and former NFL offensive lineman Ephraim Salaam is in for Rob, and he and Chris discuss the importance of Brandon Aiyuk’s contract extension with the San Francisco 49ers and explain why it’s starting to feel like Dak Prescott is finally fed up with Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys ‘circus’. Plus, former NFL MVP running back Shaun Alexander swings by to discuss ‘The Shaun Alexander Freshman of the Year’ award in college football.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Chris Brushaw and Ron Harker.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The Big News and you heard Steve talk about it.
I'm sure Brandon Aiyuk has signed with the San Francisco
forty nine ers four years, one hundred and twenty million
dollars thirty million a year. I believe seventy eight million,
seventy six million fully guaranteed e from salam your.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Thoughts, Look, he does he deserve it? Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Okay, when you look at his body at work and
what he's done since he's been there, he's a reason,
not the reason that they've been able to codeep into
the playoffs, into the Super Bowl the last five years.
I mean, you know, NFC Championship game one after another,
Super Bowls, all of those things.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
He's part of the piece.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
So does he deserve to get paid yes, the way
he went about it and what happened some way may
argue was more of a distraction, but it worked right.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So can you argue?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Can you argue with someone's methods when it turns out
to work the way they wanted it to work? Like
for me, I'm like, look, man, if the Niners wanted
to go a different way, if they felt like, oh, okay,
well we've drafted a couple of young receivers, we can
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feel them stepping in, you're on your own, right, this
would have turned out right right.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I mean, I thought he would have just basically had
to play.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
He would have definitely had to play.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It was no fitting out if they decided they weren't
like he was going.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
To make I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I think ur in a situation like this, yeah, you
have to play, and you gotta play well, oh you
have to be a good soldier.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
But it seemed like he was going to really I
don't think it would have been wise.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like he was
going to be a bit of a distraction.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Weven if he had played well.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
The one thing, say, I know Kyle Shanahan, I know
that coaching staff and they weren't going to allow him
to come in and be a distraction like that. It
just it just wasn't gonna happen. And so if we
had gotten to midweek, wasn't gonna get done, and they
had took a stance like, hey, we're done, We've offered
what we're gonna offer.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
We're gonna get the guys ready, ready.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
To go, then he would have had to make a decision, Okay,
them show up on Wednesday and I'm gonna go to
work like regular workweek, or I'm just going to hand
back money fourteen point eight whatever it is he's making
this year. Every day I'm missing every practice, I'm going
to hand money. And oh, by the way, when that
game check comes and is in everybody's locker next Monday,
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that's seven hundred, eight hundred plus one thousand dollars a week.
It's going to them, not to me. Right, So those
are the decisions he was going to have to be
faced with. And I don't think his agent, him or
anybody advising him would have said, hey, that's a good idea.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
And he doesn't accrue any time.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
This would have been just like this year was frozen
in time.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And I think that's what the Niners were working on,
like they knew, and that's why, to their credit, they
did not trade him because they felt, either we will
get this done or he's gonna have to play for us,
and he's gonna have to play well anyway if he
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wants that money. Now, he turned down a few trades,
and he is in the best situation.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
New England obviously would not.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Have been nearly as good as San Francisco's situation. Cleveland, yes,
they're potentially a good team, but their quarterback situation obviously
isn't as good as the Niners is.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Same thing, good team, good, great organization, but right now
the quarterback situation doesn't look great. He is in a
great situation. And you know this, Ephraim, a guy that young,
that good. Yeah, you want to get paid, no question,
but you also want to be able to shine yes
and do your thing, and he's gonna.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Be able to do that. He's brock Perty's favorite target.
I think.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Look, a few years ago, I thought Deebo Samuel might
be the best football player.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
And you know what I'm talking about, I do football
player in the league. But at this point I think
their best receiver is Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Well, yeah, when you talk about a traditional receiver. Yes,
when you look at the number, seventy five passes, thirteen
forty two yards, seven touchdowns, those are receiver stats, right.
Deebo doesn't fall into that category, right, because Deebo is rushing,
he's retur he's everything. He's, like you said, one of
the top two football players in the entire league, not
(05:26):
just a position player. Look, Brock Purdy is happier today.
Oh yes, The problem is he's not as happy as
he wants to be going in until week one because
Trent Williams hasn't been done yet. So for me, if
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I'm a quarterback, I'm like, hey man, it's good. I
like his routes. That's my favorite target. I can spread
this thing around the other people, see what the young
guys are made of.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
But what I will need to.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Do all of those things is to not be able
to looking over my shoulder because we have a left
tackle in who is not the best left tackle in football.
And I think that's a large part of the San
Francisco forty nine or success the last few years because
when he missed I believe what Trent missed a couple
of games last day.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
They lost all of those.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
What I'm saying, I agree with you, and I want
to get to Trent in the next segment. But let
me ask you this, because you know, I sit across
from Nick right every day on First Things First, and
he consistently is giving me brock Perdies interception statistics from
training case.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's so for no Nick Right.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Nick Rob would do it too, but he's been You're
talking about me being on vacation.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Shoot, well, that's what happens when the money comes, man.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
When you'll look man, when y'all when you not pressed
to wake up every day and come in and be like,
I mean, I got to punch the clock.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's like, hey, you know what Hawaii sounds. I'm just
saying quite like that. It's not quite like that.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
But are you.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Because this is a huge year for brock Pert huge
and help getting branded on you there and again we'll
get to Trent Williams in the next segment.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Is huge for him obviously now at least for now.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't know how long these guys will stay healthy,
hopefully all year, but he's got all of his skilled players.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Are you at all concerned about parties.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Interceptions in training camp and things like that. You know,
he didn't have a great training camp, at least that's
what the reports were.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
No, someone who played a long time and went through
way too many training camps, I understand the ebbs and
flow of training camps isn't for everybody. I would much
rather have a player struggle in training camp than in
regular season, right, and because in training camp you can
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try things, you can work on. This is where you
fix things, right, Okay, my footwork, I'm gonna work on
this and go my arm angle, my release point. This
is where you do those things. So until you hone
in on what you're rolling into the regular season with
just throwing interception numbers out there, we don't know when
it is.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Is it blitz pick up? Is it this at what period?
Is it in?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Is he throwing them in one on ones? That really
doesn't count? Right, Like, so when you just throw that,
well he's throwing interceptions. Is it all team based interceptions?
Is it one on one interceptions? Is it the nine
on seven a portion? But like what I mean, excuse me,
not nine on seven seven on seven portion?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
See during and obviously seven seven oh seven probably wasn't
as prominent when you played, but we had a whole
period with that, Okay, yeah, oh yeah, every day did you.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
See a lot like was it?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I mean, did you just have times where you had
a good quarterback and you just see he's not he's
throwing all other interceptions or maybe missing passes and stuff
in training camp or in practice and it doesn't phase.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
You at all.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Were you like or were you alarmed at times or
you know, or what was that like?
Speaker 5 (09:11):
What were your experiences like?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And you're absolutely right. It depends on the body of
work of the quarterback. If our veteran quarterback is coming
in and it is what Look what training camp begins
for guys who you know, I didn't even I mean, look,
I wasn't a fan of training camp. Training camp for
us was a little bit different. And I'm not just
talking about the time.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It was real. It was real.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
But as for my position, training camp, there's no different
between training camp games or regular week practice. Like it's
all out war every single day, two times a day,
full pass. So I hated training camp. Right, I'm trying
to keep my head on straight, keep my shoulders from
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messing up and breaking my fingers because it's contact NonStop,
twice a day. But you know, you'll look over to
field one and you have the receivers and the quarterbacks
and the dbs over there lolly gag and and you know,
playing patty cake with the routes and while we're over
here battling. So look, those things are gonna happen, right
(10:17):
you start talking trash.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
You know, DB's versus receivers.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Everybody you're going against, they know the routes, they know
the offense, they know all of those things. So yeah,
a cornerback and a certain team period is gonna sit
on a route because he knows the like you know
each other more than anything, right, Like if you have
a brother and you've grown up together and you've played
(10:41):
together all that, and now you're playing across from I
know you many.
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Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, Brandon Ayuk just signed an extension with the Niners,
but Dak Prescott not so fortunate, and he's seeking that
with the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
They've been talking but to no avail thus far.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And Jerry Jones has said not recently that he uh
looks like they probably won't get it done before season,
and Dak Prescott has responded. So Rob Ge kind of
summarize this force so we have the proper context before
we talk about some of these quotes.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Sure, so as soon.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
As the CD LAMB deal was done, similar to the
Brand and Ayuk deal you guy said, hey, what's next
with Trent Williams? Well, as soon as CD was done,
it's hey, what's next with Dak? So Jerry Jones has
been in the headlines again in the last forty eight
hours talking about it, and earlier on Thursday, Jerry was
asked once again how does this situation with CD Lamb
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impact Dak Prescott's feature with the team, And throughout his answer,
one thing he says is quote, you could easily say
if you haven't seen it by now, then you haven't
seen it. Well, when you look at a situation, you
also got away, okay, what are the consequences of the
other side of the coin? And so in Dak's situation
right now, for me from my mirror, has more to
(12:55):
do with our situation than it does with the merits
of Dak being the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. So
it's a big word salad.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
All right, gonna say, it's a little lot of google exactly.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
So later on, a couple hours later, Dak Prescott meets
with the media and a little scrum there in the
locker room, and they ask him about his situation. They
tell him what Jerry Jones has said Dak Prescott replies,
that's the business and the nature of this game that
we play. So yeah, I mean I stopped honestly listening
(13:26):
to the things that he says to the media a
long time ago. It doesn't really hold any weight with me.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I'm gonna say this, from.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That quote from Dak Prescott sounds to me like he's
fed up with the circus. And I mean, I think
it's an insult to Jerry Jones. Now I don't I
haven't seen there's no video of how he said it.
I would imagine he said it somewhat laughingly, you know,
(14:02):
kind of Hey. You know, I've learned not to pay
attention to what he's saying.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
You know, it doesn't hold word, you know, that kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But you could have easily just gone to politically correct route.
Dak's done that for the bulk.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Of his career.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
For him to come out and say, man, please don't.
I don't listen to that, dude, you know, like if
you if you when you were on with Rob and
you saying something about me, and I seriously somebody told
me later and I seriously was like.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Man, please, I don't pay attention to what he says.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
About me, like, and I'm serious that to me, that's
insulting you. But you know what I'm saying, I think
this is an insult to Jerry Jones and the fact
that his quarterback is saying that. Now, maybe I'm taking
it too seriously, but I think that is something.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
And I'm not gonna say he's totally done with.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
The Cowboys, but I've been singing this tune for years
that Jerry Jones has created a circus like atmosphere that
is not the best for winning.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
The big games.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And it almost sounds like to me in this quote
that Dak Prescott feels the same way, and he's like,
man enough, I'm kind.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Of done with this stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So and you're absolutely right, right.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
It's like when you go to your family union and
your old uncle, right, he always got something to say,
right right, whether it be the girl you dating, you
bring her over something, whoever made the castle role, whatever
it is, he got something to say. And whoever's with
(15:45):
you that same girl you're dating. They could be like,
oh my god, I don't worry about that. He crazy, right, right,
Like he that's uncle Bud.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
He you know, he Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
He crazy, right, He say anything nobody pays a tick
right right like, So it's one of those things where
you're literally like, hey, bro, it's this is what Jerry does.
He he inserts himself, and he takes control of the
(16:19):
situation and holds the whole situation in narrative. He holds
it hostage. Right, Jerry is gonna say it no matter
how what he is the brand, it's all about him,
so on and so forth. The only owner that has
weekly radio show, TV show, the whole nine yards. He
talks to the to the media more than the players
and the coaches.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
It's the only team like that. Most teams you don't
even see them. You barely see the.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Owner, not until they holding the trophy, right bare You
barely even see them walking in the halls.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You don't, you don't, you don't see them. So it's
one of those situations where Dak is like, look, I'm
focusing on the season. I'm gonna go out here and
do what I now. If I were Dak Prescott, I
will play out this season. I said, Look, when when
Thursday comes around and the season starts, I don't want
to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I don't want to talk for him. Sixty million.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And the per year before the season starts, do you
think that the number he wants? Well, there's some school
of thought out there that if he waits until next
you know, he's going, he'll go beyond it.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
He will go beyond sixty. Okay, so money goes up.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
That's the question I'm throwing the Now.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Look, remember right now the highest per year is what
fifty five million? Yes, so sixty It could be the
junk next summer. Yep, you know what I mean, Like
it doesn't I mean ten million.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Now, the CAP's gonna go up to the money going up,
so that that will be that won't be the ceiling.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
So so if.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Let's say hypothetically they offer him sixty and you know,
before the season, because I I don't rule out the
possibility of this getting done before the season starts, do
you think that should take it?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
At this point? I would say no.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And the reason is the things you just said right like.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
That he might be tired of circu it's you don't
want to have to do this, right, you don't want
to Remember, he held out before they want to pay him,
and he got heard they paid him. Any Like, It's
a lot going on and there's a situation where if
Dak Prescott being number two in the MVP race last year,
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three years, twelve and five, twelve and five, twelve and five,
if the situation happens where he's able to attack the
open market, what what is that annually gonna look like?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Right?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So, are you willing to bet on you? Right now?
It's a lot? You're taking a chance. What is he
making forty five right now? So this is forty five
with no security?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Right? So are you willing? He got paid?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
But yeah, but there's different types of injuries.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But the fact that he did get hurt last time
and still got paid bodswell for him, not Dallas, because.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
If he cousins get paid, the.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Money's out there. He's Dak Prescott is good enough for someone.
You don't think the Raiders, Oh no, you don't think
the Saints. You know, the Wheelers, the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Right now, the way it's looking, they gonna want a
quarterback one of these.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I mean, there's a there's a.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Bevy of teams, Giants. Did you still in the same division?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Right? You know?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
They But let me ask you this though, and because
to me, this is important and part of the crux
of the matter this quote, and you talked about it
the silly uncle at the family view which I totally get.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
The crazy young one, not the silly The silly one's
doing jokes in magic.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
The crazy one just say anything.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But my crazy uncle at the family reunion. When I say, oh,
please don't, don't nobody listen to him, it's not really
an insult. It's kind of you know what I mean,
It's kind of like, oh, that's just uncle.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
You know, Patty on the head.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
What's the insult to your uncle? Don't listen to me? Everybody,
everybody's Look, that's what I mean.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
It's it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Okay, that's exactly what I mean, Chris, It's not it's
not me having ill feelings toward him.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Look, this is you don't.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You don't sounds to me like an insult to Jerry
and that Dak is like kind of like, at least
I'm reading it.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I'm tired of the circus.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yes, I'm tired of the s That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And you talked about the Raiders, and I know they've
had their issues, certainly the Steelers, what the Giants, these
are football first franchise line. It won't be the circus right.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Line up, Davante Adams will be like, I'll give y'all
some money back.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
And they got a defense, so they got a receiver.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Jerry knows this. Jerry not dumb, right, I don't know
what he's trying to get done here. But what I'm
saying is Dak has leverage. If the season starts before
something gets done next Thursday, seven days, I'm keeping my leverage.
We're gonna rock We're gonna rock out. I'm gonna try
to get us to the super Bowl and win this thing.
(21:27):
And guess what if he does that and he says
deuces right, he controls you know what I'm saying. Right,
anything can happen. We don't know, and that is a
huge if.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Right.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
But what I'm saying, though, even if they go to
the playoffs and they fumble out of the playoffs second
round whatever that is, like they normally do. R You
don't think the Raiders will sign up for a divisional
round playoff.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I think even if he does, yes, they would, right,
Like I was gonna say, even if if he doesn't
get he could have a down year and maybe even
missing the market is still gonna be crazy because it's
gonna be crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
That's what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
And they've been without a court and that's the thing
Dallas has to worry about.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
These teams out there have been without.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
A quarterback for a decade or whatever, and they know
the value of a guy, even though he's not, you know,
a top five quarterback. They know his value, yes, and
Dallas has to be careful of that because franchise quarterbacks
don't grow on trees, and so that's gonna be the
interesting thing.
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Or is it just what you do on the grid iron?
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Oh?
Speaker 9 (24:03):
Man, it's a little bit of It's got four characteristics,
you know. Number one, it's talent. The first thing we
do is we turn that film on and that guys like, yo,
why is he not not on my team?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
You know.
Speaker 9 (24:15):
That's the first thing is talent.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
You know, I almost said Bamba, but I didn't want
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But the second thing is character. You know, when they
when they picked when the Forward Right Association and the
Knightsville Club, when they picked it to be named after me,
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they knew I was young and that they wanted they
wanted to be a person that was that played football,
that had a really successful freshman year, speciful college and
pro career. But they also knew since I was young,
that I could be able to pour back into these guys.
And then also at the same time that these guys
would turning to turds that I would that would actually
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And so.
Speaker 9 (25:04):
Character, character is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
You ain't got the mother Teresa, but you can't punch
in the face. Yeah, right, you know what I'm saying.
So so so one with talent too.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
With character.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Three, we called the ambassadors. So we we literally called
the school and called the football program and we're like, hey,
does this guy represent your school? And that tells us
a lot. You know, you would be surprised. I mean,
these great kids don't understand that they are an influence
to a to a million dollars billion dollars in some
of these school cases companies, and they're they're representing something,
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and so we asked that are they an ambassador to
the university? And then the fourth one is is we
call it just are the a legends really a future legend.
Y'all know the NFL slogan is a player today, a
legend forever. And so I just try to go out
there and with our group from Maxwell, we try to
pick a guy that we say, this guy's going to
be an NFL player, and Chris, you read them off.
We're hot right now, ye are we? Rather? You know
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they're nineteen when when we get them in and they
turned into a handful of pros, You've got two third
kickoveralls and one number overall, Trevor Lawrence. I am very
first picker.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
And Kenneth Gainswell went to the Super Bowl already.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
You know brock Hours. We think he's gonna be phenomenal
with the Raiders. So we've picked well so far and
where we're really excited about about this year's crop.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Let me ask you this, out of the hot thirty
seven are do you are you biased?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Do you lean towards?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Is someone on that list right now before any of
the games, before any of that who's sticking out to you?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Can you give us that? Is that? Is that a no? No?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Or can you be like, hey, I'm you know I
know this kid, I'm right, I'm looking to I'm watching
this year, Do you have any favorites so far?
Speaker 9 (26:53):
You know, I had to do my own stuff the
biggest justice because you know, I'm a relationship guy, you know,
so if I get close to you and I'm gonna
want you to win. So I have made sure that
I am not the control of all the pickings, you
know what I mean. And so so the Maxwell Football Club,
they do a great job with selecting the guys. And
and I do have a vote, but it's not it's
(27:14):
not it's not one hundred percent who Shan's favorite so
and so. So they've done a good job. I looked
at him, kind of do the thirty seven, they'll get
down to the fourteen for the semi finalists, they'll get
the top five and right before the look gouts play
their championship game and the and that's with the top
five and then and then I actually get to call
the winner on Christmas Day. So I try not to
(27:35):
get too close. But everybody, I mean everybody that I
got a cousin that's so and so here, bad boy,
Hey look at on how you know? And so I
get allot of that and it's a lot of fun,
but I purposely don't do it because I want to.
I want to judge it correctly and make sure that
we get.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
So you say, mess Sean.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So obviously college football is a lot different, not only
from when you played, but from when you started this
award now because of NIL deals and stuff like that.
So what have you noticed any difference in the players
as far as you know, just things they might be
(28:17):
looking for, just their whole outlook.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Now that they are getting paid while in college.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And what advice do you give some of these guys
about the NIL and handling it properly so that you
don't derail your chances of making the NFL.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
You know, there's I would say that there's there's two
things that are just they're very hard to get your
hands wrapped around it if you're not if you don't
know who you are, and that's money insane. And we're
giving nineteen year old then both of us and so
and so what I like to do is I like
to come in and you know, it's off as being
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big brother Sean with Trevor to uncle Sean with with Drake.
You know, you know, I'm like that, I mean, you know,
but but yeah, I try to I try to run
through all my my pop my professional legacy program, and
un most of the got there, starting from from the
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hot from the hot list all the way down to
the winner. We start picking the guys that that we know, Hey,
we want to come here and serve you and give
you some of the best information about learning who you
really are so you don't have to go play the
identity game and end up foolishly spending all your money
or foolishly thinking that you have to be quote unquote
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the man that looks like this, because that's the biggest
trib We know that there's a great percentage of athletes
that lose everything by the time they retire. That finances,
that's family, that's friendships, and so when you actually get
your identity set, you give yourself a chance to be
a forty year old that still has some money and
still has some some some some character about them and
and the life that they really So we're all about
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trying to help the guys grab that as soon as possible,
and that's what I do. That's when we try to
teach some of that from the beginning. It's like you're
bigger than football, but you need to go dominate that
in every area on and off the field. And so
that's that's the kind of the advice that we start
the sum on a path and we're just walking to
the program.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
That's amazing, man.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Look when we look at the current state of just
to jump to the pros, we look at the current
state of the NFL and the running back position. Right
back when you were playing Marshall, playing some of the greats,
being league in VP right was attainable. You could You
could be the league MVP at that position. It was
(30:42):
such a dominant position. You could literally change the game
and change the whole team's trajectory if you had the
ilk that you and Marshall and some of the great
running backs did. Where do you stand on the state
of the running back position?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Now?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
We saw last year they didn't want to pay the guys.
Guys are you know on these contracts? You know, it's
just not a lot of money. They're devalue. We've seen
receivers contracts numbers go skyrocket thirty million a year. Running
backs they trying to get nine, ten million year. What
are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 9 (31:20):
I mean, was going on they getting paid what I
got paid?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Right?
Speaker 8 (31:23):
Right?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Right?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
What we're doing you know.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
You know the problem is is because of the coaches,
you know, getting paid so much more than ever before,
they had to and this is going back to about
ten years ago, they had to kind of feel and
I begin I feel like I felt the beginning that
with like with Mike Homework back in the days.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
We all know I love Mike, but I could feel like, Man,
I just want to give you the ball. Thirty times.
I'm like, Mike, we went and just do that, Just
give it they want. They wanted to figure out a
way to say, man, looks how smart I'm gonna call
this play? This guy running wide open? And I'm like, man,
you may give me that darn ball. But what's happened
is is now they've done it so much where now
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they don't need a guy to come and take over
the game, you know. And with this Mike Hohne was
my coach, the offensive coordinator with Gil Haskell and people
don't know who that is, but Gil was the running
back coach for Eric Dickerson, you know. So that's the
kind of mode and coaching that I got. And I
had the great stump Mitchell the running back whispers my
running back coach. It was all designed around that. Well,
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now they're just like, well, let's go get three three
scat guys and one guy can run it every now
and then and we'll just figure it out that way.
And it's just kind of lowering that. So you get
guys that are my height and size. You know, I'm
six one, I can carry about two twenty five. Yeah,
And so what happened is is now if you beat
me up a little bit, I can go play two
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forty five and go play outside linebacker. Or if you
slim me down, I can play two hundred and play
slide receiver. And you're having probably not the best, but
the second, third, fourth. This best running backs now they're
playing slot receiver. They're Deebo Samuels. Now they're playing outside linebacker.
You know, you know, right, so you're seeing the guy
that would be like, I gotta go win the game.
(33:11):
You know, you just go back, you know, twenty years
now the best guy is no longer saying I'm gonna
be a running back and help my team win. Now
that's saying I'm gonna help my team win because I'm
gonna be a slot or I'm going to be announside linebacker.
And so you're you're missing you know, ten to fifteen
amazing running backs because they're playing different positions in the
pros now.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And I would have thought, and we only got about
thirty seconds for the answer. But man, I bet now
you see these teams having two and three running backs
that are playing regularly, I bet that would have ticked
you off, man, Like you want the ball right, you
don't get in every series, every you know what I mean?
Like that would be exasperating to you and Eric Dickerson
(33:52):
and guys back in the day.
Speaker 9 (33:54):
Oh for sure, because we were built from the beginning
to take over the game, and so there was no
there was no two great players. It was the great
player in the backup and the other great player. Like
you know, I came up with Ricky Waters. Ricky said
to me, He's like, dang, I'll get someone you have
to retire. Well, I'm gonna have to go somewhere else,
you know what I mean. I was like, brog it
like that. He's like, that's the way the league is.
(34:15):
And so it wouldn't be like now they try to
figure out how to how to keep us both on
the field and gets a distioning ballgame.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Now yep, all right, that's Sean Alexander. When we'll be
watching the hot thirty seven and uh, maybe we'll throw
a little some of our recommendations your way for some
of these winners as the season goes on.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
Hey, I'll jump back on the middle season. We'll talk
about it some more.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
The Big News and you heard Steve talk about it.
I'm sure Brandon Aiyuk has signed with the San Francisco
forty nine ers four years, one hundred and twenty million
dollars thirty million a year. I believe seventy eight million,
seventy six million fully guaranteed e from salam your.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Thoughts, Look, he does he deserve it? Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Okay, when you look at his body at work and
what he's done since he's been there, he's a reason,
not the reason that they've been able to codeep into
the playoffs, into the Super Bowl the last five years.
I mean, you know, NFC Championship game one after another,
Super Bowls, all of those things.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
He's part of the piece.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
So does he deserve to get paid yes, the way
he went about it and what happened some way may
argue was more of a distraction, but it worked right.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So can you argue?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Can you argue with someone's methods when it turns out
to work the way they wanted it to work? Like
for me, I'm like, look, man, if the Niners wanted
to go a different way, if they felt like, oh, okay,
well we've drafted a couple of young receivers, we can
(01:50):
feel them stepping in, you're on your own, right, this
would have turned out right right.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I mean, I thought he would have just basically had
to play.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
He would have definitely had to play.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It was no fitting out if they decided they weren't
like he was going.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
To make I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I think ur in a situation like this, yeah, you
have to play, and you gotta play well, oh you
have to be a good soldier.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
But it seemed like he was going to really I
don't think it would have been wise.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like he was
going to be a bit of a distraction.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Weven if he had played well.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
The one thing, say, I know Kyle Shanahan, I know
that coaching staff and they weren't going to allow him
to come in and be a distraction like that. It
just it just wasn't gonna happen. And so if we
had gotten to midweek, wasn't gonna get done, and they
had took a stance like, hey, we're done, We've offered
what we're gonna offer.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
We're gonna get the guys ready, ready.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
To go, then he would have had to make a decision, Okay,
them show up on Wednesday and I'm gonna go to
work like regular workweek, or I'm just going to hand
back money fourteen point eight whatever it is he's making
this year. Every day I'm missing every practice, I'm going
to hand money. And oh, by the way, when that
game check comes and is in everybody's locker next Monday,
(03:14):
that's seven hundred, eight hundred plus one thousand dollars a week.
It's going to them, not to me. Right, So those
are the decisions he was going to have to be
faced with. And I don't think his agent, him or
anybody advising him would have said, hey, that's a good idea.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
And he doesn't accrue any time.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
This would have been just like this year was frozen
in time.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And I think that's what the Niners were working on,
like they knew, and that's why, to their credit, they
did not trade him because they felt, either we will
get this done or he's gonna have to play for us,
and he's gonna have to play well anyway if he
(04:01):
wants that money. Now, he turned down a few trades,
and he is in the best situation.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
New England obviously would not.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Have been nearly as good as San Francisco's situation. Cleveland, yes,
they're potentially a good team, but their quarterback situation obviously
isn't as good as the Niners is.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Same thing, good team, good, great organization, but right now
the quarterback situation doesn't look great. He is in a
great situation. And you know this, Ephraim, a guy that young,
that good. Yeah, you want to get paid, no question,
but you also want to be able to shine yes
and do your thing, and he's gonna.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Be able to do that. He's brock Perty's favorite target.
I think.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Look, a few years ago, I thought Deebo Samuel might
be the best football player.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
And you know what I'm talking about, I do football
player in the league. But at this point I think
their best receiver is Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Well, yeah, when you talk about a traditional receiver. Yes,
when you look at the number, seventy five passes, thirteen
forty two yards, seven touchdowns, those are receiver stats, right.
Deebo doesn't fall into that category, right, because Deebo is rushing,
he's retur he's everything. He's, like you said, one of
the top two football players in the entire league, not
(05:26):
just a position player. Look, Brock Purdy is happier today.
Oh yes, The problem is he's not as happy as
he wants to be going in until week one because
Trent Williams hasn't been done yet. So for me, if
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I'm a quarterback, I'm like, hey man, it's good. I
like his routes. That's my favorite target. I can spread
this thing around the other people, see what the young
guys are made of.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
But what I will need to.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Do all of those things is to not be able
to looking over my shoulder because we have a left
tackle in who is not the best left tackle in football.
And I think that's a large part of the San
Francisco forty nine or success the last few years because
when he missed I believe what Trent missed a couple
of games last day.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
They lost all of those.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
What I'm saying, I agree with you, and I want
to get to Trent in the next segment. But let
me ask you this, because you know, I sit across
from Nick right every day on First Things First, and
he consistently is giving me brock Perdies interception statistics from
training case.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's so for no Nick Right.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Nick Rob would do it too, but he's been You're
talking about me being on vacation.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Shoot, well, that's what happens when the money comes, man.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
When you'll look man, when y'all when you not pressed
to wake up every day and come in and be like,
I mean, I got to punch the clock.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's like, hey, you know what Hawaii sounds. I'm just
saying quite like that. It's not quite like that.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
But are you.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Because this is a huge year for brock Pert huge
and help getting branded on you there and again we'll
get to Trent Williams in the next segment.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Is huge for him obviously now at least for now.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't know how long these guys will stay healthy,
hopefully all year, but he's got all of his skilled players.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Are you at all concerned about parties.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Interceptions in training camp and things like that. You know,
he didn't have a great training camp, at least that's
what the reports were.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
No, someone who played a long time and went through
way too many training camps, I understand the ebbs and
flow of training camps isn't for everybody. I would much
rather have a player struggle in training camp than in
regular season, right, and because in training camp you can
(07:54):
try things, you can work on. This is where you
fix things, right, Okay, my footwork, I'm gonna work on
this and go my arm angle, my release point. This
is where you do those things. So until you hone
in on what you're rolling into the regular season with
just throwing interception numbers out there, we don't know when
it is.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Is it blitz pick up? Is it this at what period?
Is it in?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Is he throwing them in one on ones? That really
doesn't count? Right, Like, so when you just throw that,
well he's throwing interceptions. Is it all team based interceptions?
Is it one on one interceptions? Is it the nine
on seven a portion? But like what I mean, excuse me,
not nine on seven seven on seven portion?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
See during and obviously seven seven oh seven probably wasn't
as prominent when you played, but we had a whole
period with that, Okay, yeah, oh yeah, every day did you.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
See a lot like was it?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I mean, did you just have times where you had
a good quarterback and you just see he's not he's
throwing all other interceptions or maybe missing passes and stuff
in training camp or in practice and it doesn't phase.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
You at all.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Were you like or were you alarmed at times or
you know, or what was that like?
Speaker 5 (09:11):
What were your experiences like?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And you're absolutely right. It depends on the body of
work of the quarterback. If our veteran quarterback is coming
in and it is what Look what training camp begins
for guys who you know, I didn't even I mean, look,
I wasn't a fan of training camp. Training camp for
us was a little bit different. And I'm not just
talking about the time.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It was real. It was real.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
But as for my position, training camp, there's no different
between training camp games or regular week practice. Like it's
all out war every single day, two times a day,
full pass. So I hated training camp. Right, I'm trying
to keep my head on straight, keep my shoulders from
(09:54):
messing up and breaking my fingers because it's contact NonStop,
twice a day. But you know, you'll look over to
field one and you have the receivers and the quarterbacks
and the dbs over there lolly gag and and you know,
playing patty cake with the routes and while we're over
here battling. So look, those things are gonna happen, right
(10:17):
you start talking trash.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
You know, DB's versus receivers.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Everybody you're going against, they know the routes, they know
the offense, they know all of those things. So yeah,
a cornerback and a certain team period is gonna sit
on a route because he knows the like you know
each other more than anything, right, Like if you have
a brother and you've grown up together and you've played
(10:41):
together all that, and now you're playing across from I
know you many.
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Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, Brandon Ayuk just signed an extension with the Niners,
but Dak Prescott not so fortunate, and he's seeking that
with the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
They've been talking but to no avail thus far.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And Jerry Jones has said not recently that he uh
looks like they probably won't get it done before season,
and Dak Prescott has responded. So Rob Ge kind of
summarize this force so we have the proper context before
we talk about some of these quotes.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Sure, so as soon.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
As the CD LAMB deal was done, similar to the
Brand and Ayuk deal you guy said, hey, what's next
with Trent Williams? Well, as soon as CD was done,
it's hey, what's next with Dak? So Jerry Jones has
been in the headlines again in the last forty eight
hours talking about it, and earlier on Thursday, Jerry was
asked once again how does this situation with CD Lamb
(12:33):
impact Dak Prescott's feature with the team, And throughout his answer,
one thing he says is quote, you could easily say
if you haven't seen it by now, then you haven't
seen it. Well, when you look at a situation, you
also got away, okay, what are the consequences of the
other side of the coin? And so in Dak's situation
right now, for me from my mirror, has more to
(12:55):
do with our situation than it does with the merits
of Dak being the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. So
it's a big word salad.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
All right, gonna say, it's a little lot of google exactly.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
So later on, a couple hours later, Dak Prescott meets
with the media and a little scrum there in the
locker room, and they ask him about his situation. They
tell him what Jerry Jones has said Dak Prescott replies,
that's the business and the nature of this game that
we play. So yeah, I mean I stopped honestly listening
(13:26):
to the things that he says to the media a
long time ago. It doesn't really hold any weight with me.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I'm gonna say this, from.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That quote from Dak Prescott sounds to me like he's
fed up with the circus. And I mean, I think
it's an insult to Jerry Jones. Now I don't I
haven't seen there's no video of how he said it.
I would imagine he said it somewhat laughingly, you know,
(14:02):
kind of Hey. You know, I've learned not to pay
attention to what he's saying.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
You know, it doesn't hold word, you know, that kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But you could have easily just gone to politically correct route.
Dak's done that for the bulk.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Of his career.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
For him to come out and say, man, please don't.
I don't listen to that, dude, you know, like if
you if you when you were on with Rob and
you saying something about me, and I seriously somebody told
me later and I seriously was like.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Man, please, I don't pay attention to what he says.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
About me, like, and I'm serious that to me, that's
insulting you. But you know what I'm saying, I think
this is an insult to Jerry Jones and the fact
that his quarterback is saying that. Now, maybe I'm taking
it too seriously, but I think that is something.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
And I'm not gonna say he's totally done with.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
The Cowboys, but I've been singing this tune for years
that Jerry Jones has created a circus like atmosphere that
is not the best for winning.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
The big games.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And it almost sounds like to me in this quote
that Dak Prescott feels the same way, and he's like,
man enough, I'm kind.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Of done with this stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So and you're absolutely right, right.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
It's like when you go to your family union and
your old uncle, right, he always got something to say,
right right, whether it be the girl you dating, you
bring her over something, whoever made the castle role, whatever
it is, he got something to say. And whoever's with
(15:45):
you that same girl you're dating. They could be like,
oh my god, I don't worry about that. He crazy, right, right,
Like he that's uncle Bud.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
He you know, he Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
He crazy, right, He say anything nobody pays a tick
right right like, So it's one of those things where
you're literally like, hey, bro, it's this is what Jerry does.
He he inserts himself, and he takes control of the
(16:19):
situation and holds the whole situation in narrative. He holds
it hostage. Right, Jerry is gonna say it no matter
how what he is the brand, it's all about him,
so on and so forth. The only owner that has
weekly radio show, TV show, the whole nine yards. He
talks to the to the media more than the players
and the coaches.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
It's the only team like that. Most teams you don't
even see them. You barely see the.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Owner, not until they holding the trophy, right bare You
barely even see them walking in the halls.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You don't, you don't, you don't see them. So it's
one of those situations where Dak is like, look, I'm
focusing on the season. I'm gonna go out here and
do what I now. If I were Dak Prescott, I
will play out this season. I said, Look, when when
Thursday comes around and the season starts, I don't want
to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I don't want to talk for him. Sixty million.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And the per year before the season starts, do you
think that the number he wants? Well, there's some school
of thought out there that if he waits until next
you know, he's going, he'll go beyond it.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
He will go beyond sixty. Okay, so money goes up.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
That's the question I'm throwing the Now.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Look, remember right now the highest per year is what
fifty five million? Yes, so sixty It could be the
junk next summer. Yep, you know what I mean, Like
it doesn't I mean ten million.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Now, the CAP's gonna go up to the money going up,
so that that will be that won't be the ceiling.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
So so if.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Let's say hypothetically they offer him sixty and you know,
before the season, because I I don't rule out the
possibility of this getting done before the season starts, do
you think that should take it?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
At this point? I would say no.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And the reason is the things you just said right like.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
That he might be tired of circu it's you don't
want to have to do this, right, you don't want
to Remember, he held out before they want to pay him,
and he got heard they paid him. Any Like, It's
a lot going on and there's a situation where if
Dak Prescott being number two in the MVP race last year,
(18:40):
three years, twelve and five, twelve and five, twelve and five,
if the situation happens where he's able to attack the
open market, what what is that annually gonna look like?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Right?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So, are you willing to bet on you? Right now?
It's a lot? You're taking a chance. What is he
making forty five right now? So this is forty five
with no security?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Right? So are you willing? He got paid?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
But yeah, but there's different types of injuries.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But the fact that he did get hurt last time
and still got paid bodswell for him, not Dallas, because.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
If he cousins get paid, the.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Money's out there. He's Dak Prescott is good enough for someone.
You don't think the Raiders, Oh no, you don't think
the Saints. You know, the Wheelers, the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Right now, the way it's looking, they gonna want a
quarterback one of these.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I mean, there's a there's a.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Bevy of teams, Giants. Did you still in the same division?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Right? You know?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
They But let me ask you this though, and because
to me, this is important and part of the crux
of the matter this quote, and you talked about it
the silly uncle at the family view which I totally get.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
The crazy young one, not the silly The silly one's
doing jokes in magic.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
The crazy one just say anything.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But my crazy uncle at the family reunion. When I say, oh,
please don't, don't nobody listen to him, it's not really
an insult. It's kind of you know what I mean,
It's kind of like, oh, that's just uncle.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
You know, Patty on the head.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
What's the insult to your uncle? Don't listen to me? Everybody,
everybody's Look, that's what I mean.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
It's it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Okay, that's exactly what I mean, Chris, It's not it's
not me having ill feelings toward him.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Look, this is you don't.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You don't sounds to me like an insult to Jerry
and that Dak is like kind of like, at least
I'm reading it.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I'm tired of the circus.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yes, I'm tired of the s That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And you talked about the Raiders, and I know they've
had their issues, certainly the Steelers, what the Giants, these
are football first franchise line. It won't be the circus right.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Line up, Davante Adams will be like, I'll give y'all
some money back.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
And they got a defense, so they got a receiver.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Jerry knows this. Jerry not dumb, right, I don't know
what he's trying to get done here. But what I'm
saying is Dak has leverage. If the season starts before
something gets done next Thursday, seven days, I'm keeping my leverage.
We're gonna rock We're gonna rock out. I'm gonna try
to get us to the super Bowl and win this thing.
(21:27):
And guess what if he does that and he says
deuces right, he controls you know what I'm saying. Right,
anything can happen. We don't know, and that is a
huge if.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Right.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
But what I'm saying, though, even if they go to
the playoffs and they fumble out of the playoffs second
round whatever that is, like they normally do. R You
don't think the Raiders will sign up for a divisional
round playoff.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I think even if he does, yes, they would, right,
Like I was gonna say, even if if he doesn't
get he could have a down year and maybe even
missing the market is still gonna be crazy because it's
gonna be crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
That's what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
And they've been without a court and that's the thing
Dallas has to worry about.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
These teams out there have been without.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
A quarterback for a decade or whatever, and they know
the value of a guy, even though he's not, you know,
a top five quarterback. They know his value, yes, and
Dallas has to be careful of that because franchise quarterbacks
don't grow on trees, and so that's gonna be the
interesting thing.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
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Speaker 1 (22:49):
Our next guest, former NFL MVP and All Pro running
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Speaker 9 (22:56):
Sean, how are you, man, my brother?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
You do I'm great, I'm great. It's always good to
have you on.
Speaker 10 (23:04):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
We appreciate the time and you are here. We'll get
into some football, some of the current stuff, but right
now you're here promoting the Shawn Alexander Freshman of the
Year Award and that the honor goes to the top
true freshman or even redshirt freshman in college football.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
The Hot thirty seven. That was the number you wore
playing the Hot.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Thirty seven candidates were revealed today and semi finalists will
be released in late October, finalists late November. The winner
chosen right before Christmas. And some of the winners, I mean,
we all know him now from the NFL. Trevor Lawrence,
Kenneth gain Well, Will Anderson, Junior, Brock Bowers, Drake May.
(23:48):
We could go on and on, but tell us about
this award and is it strictly.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Like the Best Freshman?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Do you look at graves, do you look at character
any thing like that?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Or is it just what you do on the grid iron?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (24:03):
Man, it's a little bit of It's got four characteristics,
you know. Number one, it's talent. The first thing we
do is we turn that film on and that guys like, yo,
why is he not not on my team?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
You know.
Speaker 9 (24:15):
That's the first thing is talent.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
You know, I almost said Bamba, but I didn't want
to be too biased. But roll Chris how we wrote.
But the second thing is character. You know, when they
when they picked when the Forward Right Association and the
Knightsville Club, when they picked it to be named after me,
(24:41):
they knew I was young and that they wanted they
wanted to be a person that was that played football,
that had a really successful freshman year, speciful college and
pro career. But they also knew since I was young,
that I could be able to pour back into these guys.
And then also at the same time that these guys
would turning to turds that I would that would actually
damage my own name.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And so.
Speaker 9 (25:04):
Character, character is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
You ain't got the mother Teresa, but you can't punch
in the face. Yeah, right, you know what I'm saying.
So so so one with talent too.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
With character.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Three, we called the ambassadors. So we we literally called
the school and called the football program and we're like, hey,
does this guy represent your school? And that tells us
a lot. You know, you would be surprised. I mean,
these great kids don't understand that they are an influence
to a to a million dollars billion dollars in some
of these school cases companies, and they're they're representing something,
(25:38):
and so we asked that are they an ambassador to
the university? And then the fourth one is is we
call it just are the a legends really a future legend.
Y'all know the NFL slogan is a player today, a
legend forever. And so I just try to go out
there and with our group from Maxwell, we try to
pick a guy that we say, this guy's going to
be an NFL player, and Chris, you read them off.
We're hot right now, ye are we? Rather? You know
(26:02):
they're nineteen when when we get them in and they
turned into a handful of pros, You've got two third
kickoveralls and one number overall, Trevor Lawrence. I am very
first picker.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
And Kenneth Gainswell went to the Super Bowl already.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
You know brock Hours. We think he's gonna be phenomenal
with the Raiders. So we've picked well so far and
where we're really excited about about this year's crop.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Let me ask you this, out of the hot thirty
seven are do you are you biased?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Do you lean towards?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Is someone on that list right now before any of
the games, before any of that who's sticking out to you?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Can you give us that? Is that? Is that a no? No?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Or can you be like, hey, I'm you know I
know this kid, I'm right, I'm looking to I'm watching
this year, Do you have any favorites so far?
Speaker 9 (26:53):
You know, I had to do my own stuff the
biggest justice because you know, I'm a relationship guy, you know,
so if I get close to you and I'm gonna
want you to win. So I have made sure that
I am not the control of all the pickings, you
know what I mean. And so so the Maxwell Football Club,
they do a great job with selecting the guys. And
and I do have a vote, but it's not it's
(27:14):
not it's not one hundred percent who Shan's favorite so
and so. So they've done a good job. I looked
at him, kind of do the thirty seven, they'll get
down to the fourteen for the semi finalists, they'll get
the top five and right before the look gouts play
their championship game and the and that's with the top
five and then and then I actually get to call
the winner on Christmas Day. So I try not to
(27:35):
get too close. But everybody, I mean everybody that I
got a cousin that's so and so here, bad boy,
Hey look at on how you know? And so I
get allot of that and it's a lot of fun,
but I purposely don't do it because I want to.
I want to judge it correctly and make sure that
we get.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
So you say, mess Sean.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So obviously college football is a lot different, not only
from when you played, but from when you started this
award now because of NIL deals and stuff like that.
So what have you noticed any difference in the players
as far as you know, just things they might be
(28:17):
looking for, just their whole outlook.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Now that they are getting paid while in college.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And what advice do you give some of these guys
about the NIL and handling it properly so that you
don't derail your chances of making the NFL.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
You know, there's I would say that there's there's two
things that are just they're very hard to get your
hands wrapped around it if you're not if you don't
know who you are, and that's money insane. And we're
giving nineteen year old then both of us and so
and so what I like to do is I like
to come in and you know, it's off as being
(28:58):
big brother Sean with Trevor to uncle Sean with with Drake.
You know, you know, I'm like that, I mean, you know,
but but yeah, I try to I try to run
through all my my pop my professional legacy program, and
un most of the got there, starting from from the
(29:18):
hot from the hot list all the way down to
the winner. We start picking the guys that that we know, Hey,
we want to come here and serve you and give
you some of the best information about learning who you
really are so you don't have to go play the
identity game and end up foolishly spending all your money
or foolishly thinking that you have to be quote unquote
(29:39):
the man that looks like this, because that's the biggest
trib We know that there's a great percentage of athletes
that lose everything by the time they retire. That finances,
that's family, that's friendships, and so when you actually get
your identity set, you give yourself a chance to be
a forty year old that still has some money and
still has some some some some character about them and
and the life that they really So we're all about
(30:01):
trying to help the guys grab that as soon as possible,
and that's what I do. That's when we try to
teach some of that from the beginning. It's like you're
bigger than football, but you need to go dominate that
in every area on and off the field. And so
that's that's the kind of the advice that we start
the sum on a path and we're just walking to
the program.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
That's amazing, man.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Look when we look at the current state of just
to jump to the pros, we look at the current
state of the NFL and the running back position. Right
back when you were playing Marshall, playing some of the greats,
being league in VP right was attainable. You could You
could be the league MVP at that position. It was
(30:42):
such a dominant position. You could literally change the game
and change the whole team's trajectory if you had the
ilk that you and Marshall and some of the great
running backs did. Where do you stand on the state
of the running back position?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Now?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
We saw last year they didn't want to pay the guys.
Guys are you know on these contracts? You know, it's
just not a lot of money. They're devalue. We've seen
receivers contracts numbers go skyrocket thirty million a year. Running
backs they trying to get nine, ten million year. What
are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 9 (31:20):
I mean, was going on they getting paid what I
got paid?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Right?
Speaker 8 (31:23):
Right?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Right?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
What we're doing you know.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
You know the problem is is because of the coaches,
you know, getting paid so much more than ever before,
they had to and this is going back to about
ten years ago, they had to kind of feel and
I begin I feel like I felt the beginning that
with like with Mike Homework back in the days.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
We all know I love Mike, but I could feel like, Man,
I just want to give you the ball. Thirty times.
I'm like, Mike, we went and just do that, Just
give it they want. They wanted to figure out a
way to say, man, looks how smart I'm gonna call
this play? This guy running wide open? And I'm like, man,
you may give me that darn ball. But what's happened
is is now they've done it so much where now
(32:08):
they don't need a guy to come and take over
the game, you know. And with this Mike Hohne was
my coach, the offensive coordinator with Gil Haskell and people
don't know who that is, but Gil was the running
back coach for Eric Dickerson, you know. So that's the
kind of mode and coaching that I got. And I
had the great stump Mitchell the running back whispers my
running back coach. It was all designed around that. Well,
(32:28):
now they're just like, well, let's go get three three
scat guys and one guy can run it every now
and then and we'll just figure it out that way.
And it's just kind of lowering that. So you get
guys that are my height and size. You know, I'm
six one, I can carry about two twenty five. Yeah,
And so what happened is is now if you beat
me up a little bit, I can go play two
(32:50):
forty five and go play outside linebacker. Or if you
slim me down, I can play two hundred and play
slide receiver. And you're having probably not the best, but
the second, third, fourth. This best running backs now they're
playing slot receiver. They're Deebo Samuels. Now they're playing outside linebacker.
You know, you know, right, so you're seeing the guy
that would be like, I gotta go win the game.
(33:11):
You know, you just go back, you know, twenty years
now the best guy is no longer saying I'm gonna
be a running back and help my team win. Now
that's saying I'm gonna help my team win because I'm
gonna be a slot or I'm going to be announside linebacker.
And so you're you're missing you know, ten to fifteen
amazing running backs because they're playing different positions in the
pros now.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And I would have thought, and we only got about
thirty seconds for the answer. But man, I bet now
you see these teams having two and three running backs
that are playing regularly, I bet that would have ticked
you off, man, Like you want the ball right, you
don't get in every series, every you know what I mean?
Like that would be exasperating to you and Eric Dickerson
(33:52):
and guys back in the day.
Speaker 9 (33:54):
Oh for sure, because we were built from the beginning
to take over the game, and so there was no
there was no two great players. It was the great
player in the backup and the other great player. Like
you know, I came up with Ricky Waters. Ricky said
to me, He's like, dang, I'll get someone you have
to retire. Well, I'm gonna have to go somewhere else,
you know what I mean. I was like, brog it
like that. He's like, that's the way the league is.
(34:15):
And so it wouldn't be like now they try to
figure out how to how to keep us both on
the field and gets a distioning ballgame.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Now yep, all right, that's Sean Alexander. When we'll be
watching the hot thirty seven and uh, maybe we'll throw
a little some of our recommendations your way for some
of these winners as the season goes on.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
Hey, I'll jump back on the middle season. We'll talk
about it some more.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
That's all right, cool, cool,
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