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October 29, 2024 37 mins

Rob and Kelvin provide up-to-the-minute analysis of Game 4 of the World Series, debate whether the Kansas City Chiefs are doing the right thing by choosing not to pursue Diontae Johnson ahead of the NFL trade deadline and discuss their biggest superstitions.  Plus, former NFL scout Daniel Kelly swings by to discuss Anthony Richardson’s benching, the rollercoaster season thus far for Caleb Williams and much more!

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Speaker 3 (00:57):
Coming up in about twenty eight minutes Daniel Kelly, the
former NFL scout and author. He will join us at
the bottom of the hour, and of course last call time.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
If you didn't get on, get in on some of.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
The topics we had earlier in the show and a
very spirited trash talking Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
So we did have that. People look at you, I
feel like a therapist. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Look at your growth. We've been working on things. You're maturing.
Look at you, man, And people were like, rob you, this,
rob you? That Aaron Rodgers dead, and You're just like, hey,
you know what, that's your opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
And otherwise he would have had his head bitten off.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
You know, if we were a normal situation, I mean,
I'd be very very easy.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
But do you you're still trash talking Tuesday? You can
talk to them. You go ahead, look this segment. You
can get some get back if you need to get
some get back.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
We got a good game going on right now, man.
This World Series Game four too, we got a good one.
It's two to one, Dodgers up heading the way in
the fourth. Now I believe it is no bottom of
the bottom of third Yankees or roup is it? Who's
up there is at the Wan solo leading off?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
So the media their orders about to come out, right,
and it's a big one and it's two to one.
And that run for the Yankees with big because they
just haven't been able to get anything really going early
in games. And I think that that was a you know,
just to.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Get it started, and you can almost say they maybe
could have got a couple of runs and it's some
bad base running, but they getting that one.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
They had to get that one because I didn't even
I'm still trying to figure out why he was tagging
up on a ball hit all the way.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
It's either going to be caught or off the wall,
you know what I mean. So you gotta be ready.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
If you're halfway and the ball is caught, you can
still get back the second and not doubled off. And
if the ball isn't caught, then you can score easily, right,
It's easily, Like like, I just what are you tagging
up if you want to be on third base with
two outs?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
It doesn't even make sense.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I think it's just pressure, man, Like you're starting you
know what I mean, Like you said, that's why that
one run you got the pressure you start overthinking, and
I'm being serious, I think that's why you saw that
fan trying to take the ball the movie.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Like everybody's panicking right now, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
You get a little out of yours, out of your
normal routine. You're trying to win, you're nervous. Just come on, man,
you're trying to figure things out, and you and you know,
psych yourself out. It's just way too early in a game.
You're not out of it if you're the Yankees or
you know what, I mean.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
A whole lot of baseball lesson a whole third inning.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
And not to mention as you just mentioned, I mean
the lineup they have right now with Soto your lead
man up.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
I mean, that's dude, that's scary, right.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Judge Chisholm, and then Stanton, so you got four right
up here. They just finally started to get some hits
and you'll see how that thing works out. But one
out bottom of the third.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hey, you know, a conversation we've had before the last
couple of weeks is, just as all these wide receivers
are starting to move around in the NFL, Deontay Johnson
is now in the pick swat with the Baltimore Ravens.
They were able to make some moves and get him.
They only have to pay six hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars of his salary. They're gonna be able to

(04:03):
get him, and they're just gonna swap and it basically
looks like they'll go down nineteen picks in this trade.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
But they're getting a good receiver.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
You know, you already have Lamar Jackson, who is you know,
obviously doing his thing passing the ball to it.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Now you get another receiver.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
And that just shows the Ravens, who are at five
and three, which is much better than the actual record shows.
But they absolutely are like, we are trying to win
this thing, whatever it takes.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
We're not gonna settle. We're not gonna wrestle the Lowers.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
We're not gonna say, hey, we're five and three, We're
gonna Lemar Jackson and Derek Henry doing their thing. They're
trying to get him help. And now they got Deontay
Johnson in this. And it goes to the conversation to
add to by the way of Zay Flowers and Mark
Andrews and all the guys they got right now and
Isaiah likely as well. It reminds me of the conversation
we've had with the Kansas City chiefs of how they

(04:51):
aren't adding really too many people. They did get DeAndre Hopkins,
but how they are not going all out and keep
making moves. They kind of got DeAndre Hopkins and just said,
all right, good enough, then we're good enough with that.
And he played limited snaps this first week with him.
I'm sure he'll have a bigger impact this week. But
it seems like Kansas City is just saying, man, were
about to dance with the girl who got us here.
This the squad, this is what it is. We rolling

(05:13):
with it and let the chips fall where they made
with seven and zero.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, but they wouldn't have brought in DeAndre Hopkins if
they thought that they were just gonna go with who
they have. The issue what I have with Kansas City
is that they did bring somebody in, but there were
four other wide receivers who are better, who are available.
I don't understand. And even in this case, it's not
even a money thing.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
A squad six hundred for the league, you got couch money.
That's right.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
But that's what I mean where I'm saying, I genuinely
wonder with the chiefs as to them saying, this is
kind of how we do it, this is who we have.
We feel good with this, we like our structure, we
like the way our personnel is set up. Because they're
just not pressed. I guess this is me actually questioning it.
They just don't seem to be pressed to get people,
you know what I mean. And I don't know if

(05:59):
it's again because success begets success, begains success, and they're
just like, we've won a multitude of ways, so they
weren't in a hurry to get a receiver. DeAndre hopperkinda
fell into place with him. They're like, all right, we guys,
I guess we'll take them. Like they weren't even that
pressed to get him. So it's kind of one of
those things where I just don't know what it is
that makes them not eager to be buyers.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
But well, there's a there's a financial thing, and and
they've done a lot of winning and have made a
lot of money over the last few years.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
So that's the part that's just shocking. Are they being cheap?
Are they just saying we we we like a certain
type of guy.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Isn't there like a financial part of this, like like
of them not wanting to add on. But but I'm
just saying, and we talked about before you could add
money and kick it down the you know, kick it
down the road, to kick the can down the road
if you want. It just seems very weird to me
that these guys have become available and you need receiver,

(06:58):
and honestly.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Rob that would be a better excuse than what the
Chiefs have done, because according to the Athletic, the Carolina
Panthers actually picked up just over three million dollars at
Deontay Johnson's salary. So the Baltimore Ravens, in exchange for
moving down basically like ten to fifteen slots in the draft,
are only paying six hundred and twenty five thousand dollars

(07:21):
for Johnson's salary. So if you're the Chiefs, for the
low low price of ten draft slots and less than
a minimum contract, you could add a Pro Bowl caliber
wide receiver. And for whatever reason, they decided not to.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
And I guess to the conversation, I'm saying, man like,
I don't know if they just feel like I guess
when they look at it, it's hard to argue with
seven and oh, and they played, you know, mostly a
good game. You got Travis Kelsey's first touchdown again, DeAndre
Hopkins that they finally got somebody in there, and I
think you'll play more of a more of a role
and next week maybe that's what it is. It's hard

(07:58):
to argue with seven and oh, I would think you
want to be the rich getting richer and keep adding
guys and kind of like how we talked about earlier
with baseball, where it's like, let.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Me keep adding guys.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I just think if you have a team and you
have this situation, it's not like you're just adding people
and you already have a full staff and you know
what I mean, and you're just being greedy and going
over the top.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
That part.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
I get that part, I understand, and and I say, okay,
that that makes total sense. But they've lost so many people.
Yeah they keep Yeah, they keep losing receivers, running backs
as well. But I just think that's what that's the
difficulty with winning is that they're like, man, we wanted
so many different ways, and uh with.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
What stars, no stars bad last year. Guys can't hold
on the ball. Everybody's got butterfingers. And so maybe that's it.
And also having a great defense like they do that
keeps them in games, that turns people over, gets some
extra possessions, scores touchdowns. I think the defense also makes
them say, oh, you know, we're kind of in this.
And I think there's also a belief that we're gonna
get it right, meaning Cravis Kelce he finally got a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
We're gonna get it right.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Travis Kelsey is gonna start getting you know, getting better
and getting the groove. And Patrick Mahomes is gonna play better.
So maybe there's also that belief that, man, this is
our floor right now. This is as bad as we're
gonna play throughout the season. We're only up from here.
And look at you know, and look at us. We're
doing this without the best personnel. We should be able
to get better by the way in this game right now, man,

(09:23):
this World Series Game two. Uh, you got runners on
second and third, one out, Carlos Stanton up right now,
John Carlos Stanton?

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Did he get hit? What was he swung? I couldn't
real I'm talking to him.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
The ball hit him, but I think he was swinginging,
so it didn't even though it hit him, but not
the bat.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
So the Yankees have two guys on and.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
One out in the third inning and John Carlow up,
so the bases are loaded. Now, yeah, all right, this
is this is it for the for the Yankee They're
not it, but this is a huge bullpen. This is
what we talk about all the time with the bullpen
is guys could be off. You know what I mean,
when you're relying on six or seven guys to come pitch,
everybody's not gonna be everybody's not gonna chances are not good.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
It happened sometimes.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
You remember against the Padres, they pitched a shutout in
that game the bullpen right in game four. Yeah, you
know what I mean, Like that was one night when
you had a magical night and everybody was on But
here we go. Uh yeah, I just I just think
it's not often that this kind of talent is available.
And all I'm saying, even if it's just a one

(10:28):
year deal or a rental, what do you care about
the future. You got Patrick Mahomes, you got an aging
Travis Kelce, you're trying to win a third.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
You're trying to do something that nobody's ever done.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Why would you not load up on this year and
then if I want to pull back for next year
after we become the first team, never win three?

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Stright, like that's something to play for. Let me add
to you to that.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
You look at a team like the Rams when they
were just basically like we're going all in they got
rid of draft picks they got. After they got Obj
they were like, we're going all in, we're getting any
and everybody made a couple other trades.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Felt like we got this team with some special players
in Stafford. Here we go, Aaron.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Donald, you know what I mean, Like, we want to win,
win now, we want to win. We want to win
here one time and and we'll live with the rest.
And now they are sellers. It looks right. And if
you remember the forty nine ers in the heyday, they
did all that and then they got you know, they
had to pay the piper at some point, and then
they dismantled their team and they didn't win for a

(11:30):
long time, but they had a dynasty. He did it.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
It's so, I mean, there's a couple of ways of
doing it.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I guess again, if you are the Chiefs, they're saying, man,
we were winning with whoever's here. Uh, we've already had
some success. We're sitting here seven and oh, so we'll
see where it goes. Eight seven seven ninety nine on
Focks eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. If you're
watching the Chiefs, what do you you know? Do you
want more from them? Should they make some moves.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Do you have a problem with the chiefs mostly resting
on their laurels right now heading into the trade deadline.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
We'll continue that conversation. Connect with you.

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Speaker 3 (13:00):
Let me say this real quick about Volpi who hit
the Grand Slam for the Yankees. There's the greater he
just had made a double play, helped turn the double play.
But I think we talked about it before. In two
thousand and nine, he was at the Yankee parade as
a kid with his hat on, you know, and all that,
and then his dream was to be the shortstop of
the Yankees.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
And imagine being.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Literally fifteen years later. Yeah, hey, hey, you know, you
win a game, you never know. And he's making plays.
Obviously got the bat going Grand Slam. Now he's making
plays to shortstop, being part of this double play right here.
So that's gotta be awesome. Though, anytime you get to
you know, what happens in sport, whatever the team may be,
where they play for their local team, the team they
grew up rooting for.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
He's safe. But yeah, that's that has to be amazing.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Good play, no doubt about it, all right, eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox talking about the Chiefs and
just the idea that all these receivers are available and
the Chiefs are down a number of receivers and really,
haven't you know, I'm mess they got DeAndre Hopkins.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
I get it. But there were some other receivers out
there that were.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Mari Cooper, Stefan Diggs prior to injury, and one of
them guys available.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, and they didn't get them. Brandon and River on Riverside,
you're on the odd couple. Fox Sports Radar, Yep, it's
going on.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
Gut, what's going on? You know I'm here with you
guys every day or.

Speaker 7 (14:19):
I'm out here working at truck driving.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Well, we appreciate it, man, I know that.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Man.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Appreciate the support because you know what, you have options.
You don't have to look to us.

Speaker 8 (14:29):
I don't, but I've heard the other options.

Speaker 6 (14:32):
Four years ago I was locked in on you off.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (14:38):
Yeah, I don't know why Chiefs. I don't.

Speaker 8 (14:41):
I don't get that.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I really don't.

Speaker 8 (14:42):
But at the same time, because I for the last
three years I have been streaming from the Hilltops that
Baltimore would do it. So I don't if baltim if
this is what Baltimore got to do that it just
makes it even better. Hopefully it all comes to coach
in effecting the postseason, because that's to be honest, we

(15:03):
all know that's what that's what counts for Lamar Jackson
and Baltimore Ravens Now what goes on in January?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, yeah, But what I love is that Baltimore it
continues to stock pole talent when they see somebody's available.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
That's what I like.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Like like like Derek Henvey, we ran the last well
without them, right, They easily could have said that because
they have run the ball well with the with the
Committee of running Backs, you know what I mean, and
they that didn't stop them.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I love it.

Speaker 8 (15:35):
And Chiefs, You're right, Calvin. Maybe they just feel like
they form it's it's good and until somebody beat that
formulas and they're.

Speaker 9 (15:45):
Not going to fix anything.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
And that's what I think, you know, being me, I
think they also have a like a system, you know,
kind of like like we remember like New England when
they were running, they didn't really care. It was like,
all right, we get any receiver, any lineback.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
This is what we do.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
You come in.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
This is Patriot Wade is how we do it. I
have the Chiefs feel that same way, where it's like
this is just.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
What we do.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
The only reason is different, and I hear that is
that you have a chance to do something that nobody's
ever done in the NFL. Like if you're Andy Reid
and you you want to cement your legacy, like like
you you you're Patrick Mahomes. You might not be four
and oh, like Joe Montana, you might not get to
Tom Brady's seven Super Bowl, but you're three peted. Nobody's
ever done. That's something worthy. And that's all I'm saying.

(16:26):
But I think that that's worthy. So imagine if you're
in that that office. That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's like, yeah, but we're seven and oh, so we
don't have to panic, we don't have to force anything.
We're seven and oh and we look like we're actually
getting better. So that's what I think they're doing in office.
I'm glad that Alice from Pittsburgh is on the line. Alice,
you're on the cup. Hey, Alice, Fox Sports Radio. I'm
gonna take you to task.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Alice.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
You know what Johnson we did. He didn't want to
be in Pittsburgh. He dropped. He was a good receiver,
he dropped a lot of passes. He got miserable in Pittsburgh.
He wanted out. So you know, Baltimore can have fun
with him. I don't thought the Chiefs for not taking him.
We want a receiver still. We've been talked about every
receiver down the line from uh recently Cooper Cupp, the

(17:13):
Vante Adams starting back with Brandon Ayoku towards ac off
for the season. I don't know who else were being
talked about. I mean the Chiefs. The Chiefs keep winning
with what they have, just like I think that, you know,
I think the Steelers are thinking that now our receiver.
What do you take me to task?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I'm taking you to test, Alice, because you were all
in the Justin Field's care. I, Alice, you wanted no part.
You wanted no part of Russell Wilson. And he's playing great, Alice,
can you admit it? He's playing great.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
That's another reason why I wanted to call you guys
to apologize for that.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Igize, Alice, are you pleasantly surprised?

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Look at him through the ball around the field. Did
you see some of those throws?

Speaker 6 (18:03):
And everybody's happy, Our team's happy. I mean, I still,
I think Justin still maybe need some time. He's not
what Russell was. I really thought Russell coming back from
that injury was not going to be what he is.
And George Pickens is happy the receivers are all doing well.
He's throwing those long passes like I really like, I
knew he could, but I just didn't think our O

(18:25):
line was good enough to protect him.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
That's a great point. Yeah, nobody thought Russell Wilson was
a terrible quarterback. It just, uh, you think we were
worrying me, Like what was happening in Denver where we
saw horrible Russell. We saw pretty solid Russell. Now all
of a sudden, he's looking like Seattle Russell for the
most part. So you know, so far, so good. Absolutely,
he looks great. Look they're scary. He looks right hair scary.

(18:48):
And by the way, thank you Alice for the call.
Naji Harris three games in a row with over one
hundred yards rushing the ball too. So you got Russell
Wilson looking good out there distributing the ball, you know,
making those great passes, and you got Naji Harris running
for hundred yard and the defense. To your point, Mike
Tomlin is probably like, finally I got something. No, right, Well,
he wants to.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Win a playoff game and he's looking at it, right,
they haven't won in eight years in the postseason, and
he's like I got a quarterback who can also stretch
the field. Now, why you can't just put everybody up close?
They know you can't throw the ball downfield, and Russell
Wilson has been throwing the ball pretty well. Hey, Daniel
Kelly's going to join this. Former NFL scout, also an author.

(19:28):
We're talk some more football and just a bit also
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Speaker 4 (19:52):
Make sure you follow him on Twitter. What's up, Daniel,
How you doing?

Speaker 9 (19:56):
Hey, I'm doing really well.

Speaker 7 (19:57):
Robin Kelvin, thanks you so much for having.

Speaker 9 (19:59):
Me on the show tonight.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
No doubt a problem. We can start it off somebody
we talked about earlier. I said, Man, sometimes these NFL teams,
these scouts, these gms, they fall in love kind of
like when a woman knows a man is bad. Has
a bunch of red flags when they say I can
fix him. I want to fix her upper. They do
that sometimes with these quarterbacks, Daniel, and that's is that
what happened with Anthony Richardson only thirteen starts wasn't necessarily

(20:23):
your traditional quarterback, wasn't that great with the stats, but
they fell in love with the physical stats.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Is that what happened there?

Speaker 9 (20:31):
I'm not sure what happened. I love the analogy, you know,
because when I looked at Anthony and Richardson on game
film and studied all his plays with the Florida Gators,
to me, on film, he looked like a glorified option
quarterback who had difficulty reading college level defensive pass coverage schemes.

(20:53):
This guy was a run first, half second law prospect.
Everything he did at Quorida was part of came upon
the play action.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
You know.

Speaker 9 (21:01):
Fake barely completed half as passes at Florida the last
year fifty three point eight percent, fifty four point seven overall,
could barely hit the bronxide of a barn. And I
also labeled him, and this is something I felt like
a lot of people missed on as a pre draft
high injury risk because he was a run guy and
the NFL is just not that kind to running quarterbacks.

(21:24):
I've never, to your point, remotely understood the pick. This
is one of the biggest reaches to me in NFL
draft history. There was just absolutely nothing whatsoever on his
game film at Florida the remotely suggested you should go
first round. And then you know, you look at what's
happened this offseason, you know, or the last season. But
you know, growing shoulder surgery. That just compounds the problems.

(21:46):
He dropped from fifty nine point five percent completion percent
engines rookie season all the way down plummet at the
forty four point four percentn overall this season. Of course,
last week was thirty one point three. It just gets
worse and worse. But you know, here's the thing, here's
the beauty, and this is the beauty of it. Research
pre draft. They're looking at pre draft intel. This guy
has never been a natural passer. This isn't an epiphany.

(22:07):
This is one of the easiest evaluations I've ever done.
This was a guy in high school. In high school,
he completed fifty three point two percent of his passes.
In college, fifty four point seven in the NFL. He's
got fifty point two right now. So this has never
been a natural passer. And I've never understood all the
hype and the comparisons of Josh Allen and Andrew Luck
and Peyton Manning. It just is absurd to me. I've

(22:29):
never understood, you know, why we're even in the situation.
I put a fifth road grade on free Grafts labeled
him as a pre graft buss to be one of
the first four mounts.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well Richardson had done. Now, last year he had some moments,
So I hear what you're saying and all that. I
don't think that the Colts were feeling that way last
year about him.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Were I.

Speaker 9 (22:49):
I could answer for what they were looking at?

Speaker 4 (22:50):
No, no, no, But I'm saying last year, I mean,
I think that's the talent. Every time he can throw
it eighty yards all.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
These I'm asking you when you watched them last year,
were you surprised he had any says in the NFL,
I guess is my question.

Speaker 9 (23:03):
Yeah, I was surprised. I was. His mechanics are extremely inconsistent.
There's two different versions of his mechanics and film with
the Colts, you know, getting past the Florida part, there
was the part where he's just kind of like plays
kind of lose. His mechanics are a lot better. He
throws with a wider base, he follows through more with
an equally distributed you know, using his legs and his
upper body to pass the ball. That's the better version

(23:24):
of Anthony. Richie said. Then there's these moments where he
sits back there, he tenses up, and all of a sudden,
he just becomes almost all upper body, and that's when
the ball placement just starts flying downfield all over the place. So, yeah,
I was surprised to even have the success that he had.
To me, it was just like, you know, I didn't
understand what they were doing.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
All right, let's go with Caleb Williams.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
You were down on Caleb Williams got off to a
slow start, you were probably feeling good about yourself, and
then he started playing really well to get three games
in a row of three hundred yards. No Bears rookie
has ever done that. Obviously, they've had a hard time
with quarterbacks. What do you think of Caleb and his
progression and what what you've seen so far, Well, that's.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
A that's a good question.

Speaker 9 (24:08):
I'm still in the same spot with Caleb Williams. I
was pre draft. You know, I had a fourth prone
grade going into the the draft process. Label them as
a is a shirtfire one hundred percent bust. If you
won the first round, I haven't moved off that here.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
You're still You're still going to hold on to a
one hundred percent bust. Come on, now, wait a minute,
I just can't. I need you, Daniel, to own up
that you got this one wrong, okay, because he's not
a one hundred one hundred percent bust.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Really, have you seen him a one hundred percent bust?

Speaker 9 (24:42):
I've seen him. I've seen him. I've seen him, and.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
You still think he's a one hundred percent bust.

Speaker 9 (24:47):
Yes, I've seen him have success against two of the
worst teams in the NFL, against the Carolina Panthers and
Jacksonville Jaguars, who were both one win teams the time
they played them. I saw him with all the short
thinking Doug passes of the seventy three percent completion Saints
against the Rams.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Within that game, who.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Are you supposed to play? Who are you supposed to
play against? Did you when you look at Tom Brady
in the in the AFC least, and he beat up
on the Jets and the Bills and the Miami Dolphins
for fifteen years. Did you downgrade him because he played
terrible cop bad competition or not.

Speaker 9 (25:21):
I wouldn't evaluate him in all fairness, but.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
You get my point.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
All I'm saying is you can only play who's on
the schedule. Right If he doesn't play well against them,
then he's really bad.

Speaker 9 (25:34):
Absolutely, you can't. You're right about you can only play
the schedule. But here's the thing I mean, compared to
his peers right now, he's of all the starting first
round quarterbacks right now they're starting, he's the worst amongst
the three. With Jane Daniels bow Knicks and with him
with the KPRK at number twenty four, Nick is at
number twenty and Jane Daniels at number five. He's in
that lower ashmn of QBR compared to his peers overall

(25:57):
in the NFL too, And to me, it just like
he's trying to make the league adapt to him, opposed
to trying to adapt to the league. And the scary
part is the Bear schedule with Waynstown. The scretch is brutal.
I'd be surprised that they win another three maybe four
games total this season.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I want to be with you on this one, But
Kayla Williams, I still see the talent, I still see
the ability there, and he's at an organization that has
been horrific when it comes to the quarterback. So I
think it's only all to me. It's only up from
here when it comes to him. I want to ask
you about this, being joined by Daniel Kelly, former NFL
Scout author. I look at a guy like Bryce Young
who may have to start again, and you know, the

(26:37):
Panthers don't know what they're doing. This is a question
do you think we'll get to where we saw with
Eli Manning and John Elway back in the day, where hey,
I'm not going to this team and if you if
you draft me, I ain't gonna play. Because I think
the Bryce Young experiment might be a situation where a team,
you know, look, they're horrible organization and if I'm whoever
the next it guy is in this case, Kayler Williams,
this year, Bryce Young a couple of years ago, I'm

(26:59):
not going to play Team X. Do you think we'll
start to see that again from more of these star
studied young quarterbacks saying, hey man, I don't want to
go a horrible organization.

Speaker 9 (27:09):
Yeah, that's a great point. Absolutely, I do. I absolutely
think we're going to see more of that going forward.
I think we're starting to see a little hints of
that with with you know, Deon Sanders and Shador Sanders
and him kind of hinting, you know, where he might
want his son to play in that. I think that
that's absolutely going to happen as we go forward, because
you know, this is not a recipe for success for

(27:29):
a lot of these young quarterbacks to go into, you know,
situations that are the worst situations in the league with
sky high expectations, and there's a real learning curve because
the difference is between college football and the NFL are profound.
I mean that the speed of the game is higher,
the complexity is much different. It's words, the NFL versus
the college football. Even the size of the all is different.

(27:51):
With Jimy PICKETSU out the hard way. So I think
there is going to be.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Some of that to your points, all right, he is
Daniel Kelly. We appreciate you man, thank you for joining
us NFL. Of course, former INFO Scout author, make sure
you give a follow it first round, monk, thank you
for your time.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
Thank you, guys, I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
All right, the Dodgers get a home run with Smith.
Oh that was after right Smith? Uh, and they got
a man on the Yankees are making a pitch and
chain five to three.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
The good game. It's only in the fifth fifth good game.
Good game.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
And if your baseball, even if the Dodgers were to
pull somehow pulled this out and win, you still wanted
a good game, right, You didn't want this?

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, ten nothing or a blowout or something.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Obviously, if you're by the way, that guy who was
pulling on Mookie's the glove, he was escorted out.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, it was like that guy, that guy, because when
you see it and he's trying to open it, it's
not like we went and we both we both had
a glove because Mookie is jumping into the stands.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
But what he had he had a trying to pry
it open.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
His face is the best part. He's like absolutely, like
we have to win. I sold my you know car
for this, Like he was giving it his all to
get the ball man. That was crazy. Uh, So we'll
keep you updated on the score. We got last call too.
We've had a bunch of different topics.

Speaker 9 (29:13):
Man.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
We talked about the Chiefs and maybe what they are
or aren't doing.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Uh. We talked about just would you rather lose but
you went to the big game, whether it be the
Super Bowl of the World Series or the NBA Finals,
or would you never hurt too much?

Speaker 4 (29:26):
I never want to go.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
So we had some conversations too about the obviously, what's
going on in the MLB. Would you rather see the
Dodgers or the Yankees get one Soto? Whatever it is
you want to hop in on. Maybe you want to
cuss one of us out. Last Call eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox. Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox,
we want to hear from you. It's THEE I Couple,
Rod Parker Kelvin, Washington, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
It's last call.

Speaker 9 (29:48):
Time on the Odd Couple.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
If you had a take and couldn't get in a
whole show, where's your chip?

Speaker 6 (29:53):
You call your points?

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Call us in eight.

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Speaker 4 (30:12):
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(30:36):
been a couple of reviews for the Dodgers, and they've
got them right each time. As running trying to outrun
first base, but uh so they got to run Freddy
Freeman with another RBI to make this thing a one
run game. Five four Yankees as we head to the
Uh was the bottom of.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
The fifth, bottom of the fifth. That was big right there,
just to get the Oscar fans out. Yeah, Oscar eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Is the number.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
I don't forget you know what time it is. It's
last call time. It's last call last call time.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
On the Odd Couple, Alex, we need you in on that.
We need those those long I got it. Yeah, Well,
you know what I'm doing is I'm working on the oxygen.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
And when you go to the gym and the yoga
of the of the taking the best seeds of the grapes,
it enables you to have more air and.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
You don't forget Seamawson. I'm about to order some of that,
is it? Do I really need that? Yes? All right,
all right, here we.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Go last Kevin in Phoenix. You're on the odd couple
of podcast radio and you are the last call.

Speaker 7 (31:44):
Oh hey, thank you guys for taking my calls. I
just wanted to say it when it comes to senior team,
go to the championship like one of the a couple
of years ago when the Sun's played the Bucks in
the championship. I'm a die hard Sun stand I've been.
I have been my whole life, and I was scared
to go because it's like that I'm the bad luck,
like I cheated. That's when I was in the third grade.

(32:06):
And then so now Karen's coming back and get me.
I would love to see the Suns win a championship,
but sometimes they just have that feeling like because I'm there,
that's why they lose.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
But you know what's funny, they are fans like that.
Every time I go, they lose you. I hate going.
It happened to me today.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
So on the show today, Uh you're not doing a call,
thank you, keV. I do a show out here, uh
TV no news anchor. And I brought up the room
the very beginning. I'm sweeping.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
I brought a brook. They were like for real, mad,
you know, like what are you not doing it right?

Speaker 1 (32:35):
And I'm like, no, man, you know it's the TV,
that sweet sweet the Dutch, and They're like, like, literally
been out of shape.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
I would bring out a broom right now.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
And I'm like, first of all, as if Max Muncy,
the world's greatest baseball player that ever exists, Freddie Freeman
are like, man, if only Calvin didn't bring out that broom,
we would have swept the Yankees today.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
But if they see but what happened, people will remember.
Right I was, I'm gonna hit that Grand Slam Robsy,
I shook. I ain't gonna lie to you rop. I
was sitting there like ha ha ha.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Thank god they came back at least made it five
to four and get back anything. You never know what's
gonna happen. The last four innings. But who your boy
was nervous for me? I ain't gonna lie with shook it.
I was definitely shooking right there.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, but that but that is always the case, Like
people have those little things that they are afraid of
and feel like, do you.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Have any even even aside from sports, Like just dude,
I don't step on a crack because I ain't trying
to break my mama's back.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
And you have any of those that you do believe in.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I gotta tap something twice before I walk by anything
like that.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like I won't split if we're walking down the street,
I won't split a pole. I won't do stuff like that.
I'm conscious of that. I am the only one off
the top of my head is a weird food one.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I've mentioned it before, Like I have to have an
equal portion of the things, so you know, if you
got you got your your chicken, your broccoli, and your
ash potatoes, like I have to have with each by
the exact portion of each thing. I am a little
weird with that. I'll admit it. I am a little
weird with that. Oh my gosh, Aaron Judges, he may
have leoked out I don't know he lucked out on

(34:12):
that one.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Well it's an error. He's six. Yeah, but even that
swing was half hazard. What's going on with a dredge?

Speaker 6 (34:19):
Man?

Speaker 4 (34:19):
He in his own head at this point, I would say, yes,
you know what I mean. Yeah, just but that that's
a routine play.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, he's six, Yeah, Edmund right there, man, you gotta
make that because in this in this just you can't
give up any You cannot give up and out. You
can't give up a guy getting them on base. You
cannot do it. He's been at a heck of a postseason.
No n O C S m v P to make
that play because just in this kid Chisholm man, he's

(34:48):
he's like a wild car, like an X factor, Like
if he gets on base, he's gonna steal one or two.
He got speed, but also he can psych himself out
at the play went off over Mookie's head.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
That hit the defense. That was his hit for the night.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
So five to four, it is only the fifth inning.
Yankees lead five to four. I'm a man on and
there's no out.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah, maybe they'll get a double play here. Yeah, I
don't think I have Robber.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
You got any any superstitions or anything or Alex, I'm
sure you do. Like, don't eat from the fruit in
which the liath, the thing in which it would groweth
is non organic.

Speaker 10 (35:23):
Dude, that sounds pretty dope. Actually, I would subscribe to that.
There's a lot of ifs have it before, but now
you bring it when I can get about it.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
I don't use the coconut oil unless it is from
deriving from in which it is born into the.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
You ain't got nothing robbed you, you got nothing with you.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
I don't know if it's a superstition, but if I'm
ever driving behind a semi.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
That has like wood or oh yeah, I will not
stay behind it. That's just smart. I think that's smart. Yeah,
most of the time, you're fine.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
We all see too many videos on your tiktoks and
instagrams where the logs fall off or the poles falling
and hit somebody, right, that that's just smart.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
I'm sure statistically I'm more likely to get in an
accident in the other lane, right, But I'm just like nodding.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
You know, today iven Oncet in Ohio and and a
tire came off of a truck like like bounce and
it bounced right, no, right over my car and that
thing could have hit the winds. You'll have me crack.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I remember that, like I dodged a shoot. That thing
would have hit straight on it. It went instead of
hitting me straight you know, in the glass, it went
bounced to the right and and it just popped off
the car. And at that speed, you know what.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I mean, things are heavy that that's easily shot on
your window. I've seen that happen with a wheel where
it literally was coming on the opposite end of the
freeway boom, and it hopped over the median. It was
coming at us. I'm like, this is out of real,
this is unreal. Yeah, they see did you it was
worship Wednesday? Tomorrows're go you know, did you give?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Did you scream? Thank you God for that kidding, But
that's some scary stuff. I got a fun quick one
for you, right.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
What was that?

Speaker 10 (37:10):
So if I want to try new food places and
they're closed, I never go back. Really, I'm superstitious, and
that was meaning I'm not supposed to, so I never
go back.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
What if it was I know you're out the game
right now, but what if it was like a woman
like you get try to call her once and she
ain't answered.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Oh then, s I'm done? Really? Oh yeah, we don't
play these ghost games here, kadon. Okay, interesting, you might
miss on the greatest restaurant of all time. No, I
definitely didn't.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
All right, well they're on the best guest we got worship. Yeah,
I told you I can't. You can't get rid Jesus's
standing up right now? Man two on, can you do something?
We'll get at it tomorrow. Fox Sports Radio
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