November 2, 2024 • 29 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Dwyane Wade deserved a statue in front of the Miami Heat’s home arena and argue whether the Kansas City Chiefs are doing the right thing by choosing not to pursue Diontae Johnson ahead of the NFL trade deadline. Plus, MLBBro.com’s JR Gamble swings by for the final edition of Foul or Fair for the 2024 MLB season.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Let's talk about the NBA YEP and the Dwayne Wade statue.
Have you seen the Dwayne Wade statue?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Could I not? My timeline was lit up with it.
Talk about it? Man?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Uh, I call it d wrong. That wasn't d Wade.
That was d wrong. That was they did my man bad.
He tried to save face and obviously he's excited. Look
is his statue. It means a lot. He was emotional,
He got his family there the unveiling. They talk about
what he meant to the city.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
But dag it, we gotta start looking at these statues.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Midway through, we gotta stop and sall right, I mean,
you know, listen, anything you do you usually take a
look at right, alright, let me see him, he says, Okay, shoot,
if you're going out at night with an outfit, you
stopped to look all right, let me see there's the
shirt match. Okay, the shoot look a right. I'm trying
to figure out what some of these sculptures, what are
we doing? Because that didn't look deep. He looked over Wade.
He looked like out of shape d Wade. His face
(01:22):
was all the beerd was swollen. It wasn't the best.
The sentiment was there, but the actual artwork was not
the best. But again for him, mister Miami, mister three
oh five, you know in Wade County instead of Day
County they call it Wade County. Being the biggest freend
you know, person of that franchise outside of pat Riley.
(01:45):
It was absolutely well deserved. It was absolutely the sentiment
and game was there. But they they couldn't did a
much better job of the statue. The statue wasn't, wasn't it.
Christiano Ronaldo was somewhere smiling right now, like, who good?
They messed him up. I ain't the only one getting
messed up statues aroun out here. Whoever did Kobe's that first?
They need to go do that one. Whoever did Kobe Bryants,
you are now mandated to do all statues, at least
(02:07):
in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Will keep it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
We'll keep it in the same sport that person is
mandated to do all the NBA statues.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I just think it's another example of overdoing it with statues.
This is an awful statue of Dwyane Wade and Rob.
Do you have a statement from him?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah? So two things.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Number One, according to social his own social media d
Way was part of the creation of this statue, so
he's seen it in all the faith, so he signed
off on it. He doesn't get any kind of excuse
on that one. But number two, the Associated Press caught
up with him on a Monday morning to ask him
about the viral sensation that is the d Wade statue.
Here's what he said about it, asking about if he
(02:47):
cares about the mockery that has become. I care, but
I don't. The social media world's all about opinions. Everyone
has an opinion. Everyone used your opinion. Please talk more
about us, talk more about this statue. I'm on down
and see it, take some photos, send some memes. We
don't care. Then he adds later, if I wanted it
to look like me. I just stand outside the arena
(03:09):
and y'all can take photos. It doesn't need to look
like me. It's the artist version of a moment that
happened that we're trying to cement.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I like the first part. I didn't need the second part.
He was right there. Hey, you know it's not about that.
Everybody's gonna have their own opinion. Come down, see the statue,
have a good time. That was cool, great answer, man.
It's not supposed to look like me. You know, that's
exactly what it's supposed to look like. It is a
statue of you. It is your bus, it is your
whatever you want to call it. So it does need
to look like him. So the first part of his
answer great, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Buying any of it, but the bottom line is they
got it wrong, all right.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
It doesn't look like him.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It is supposed to have a feel that you're looking
at the player that was in a catcher moment.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, in a moment or whatever. He just it just
doesn't look like him.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I mean it was like the Alan Iverson won a
really little statue.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Was outside the practice facility.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That that.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Looked awful as well.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And this is the we've gotten like over zealous with
statues and retiring everybody's number and all this don't where
is this all coming from?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And and Dwayne Wade.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Was a great player for I don't and I don't
have a problem with it being uh, Dwayne Wade getting
his number retired. You don't say, Okay, whoa but but
but everybody gets a statue.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Everybody shouldn't get it. You should be a transcending player.
Dwayne Wade can't get a statue. I'm sorry, everybody shouldn't
get a statue.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Dwayne Wade literally is an entire franchise.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So so Lebron should get to should get one down
there too, because he won two champion.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
He's gonna get one in Cleveland. No, she's why not
he won two in Miami.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Because he's not the face of that freaking franchise like
Dwayne Wade is.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I think they got a man. He gave it one,
but he should Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
They're going to have a massive statue the size of
the one in Patroya, South South Africa where I saw
Nelson Mandelas was huge.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
They're gonna have one of Lebron in Cleveland. Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I've already seen the drawing. In one hand, it'll be
a basketball. On the other hand, it will be a suitcase.
I've already seen his statue.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Hey, well, it's gonna be a massive statue. What do
you mean, Dwayne Wade? I can't. The poo pool level
knows no end with you.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Dwayne Wade is the face of an entire franchise. He
has rings pre Lebron, rings with Lebron. He's been the
finals one first before, yes, three times. What do you
want from a franchise? What more do you want from
a franchise? Like he's the embodiment of a team. Is
going to in statue. Somebody gives someone a statue, He's
(05:45):
the embodiment to me.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I don't think that everybody do. Look at your face.
You don't even know this. I'm dead suit high school?
Did you go to I'm dead? Sirs? Wow? They never
call you and me. We're gonna give you a statue?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
No, no, no, I would have been in a part
of it six minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
No. Now, you over on everything.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I just think that like that, you should be a
transcendent player. I'm gonna run off like it's Dwayne Wade
the top twenty players of all time, like like.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Those third best shooting guy. I don't know Jordan, Kobe him.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
No, but I'm talking about like top twenty all time,
Like those are the people that you should have statues.
Those are the people who left an imprint not only
for that team but for the league. So if it's
a Kareem or if it's a Jordan, every Larry Bird,
if you want to put one in Boston.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Or somebody, Wait, why is Larry get one over Dway?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No, But I'm just trying to say, like you you
would have to put like, uh, with the Celtics, they
won all those championships, do you have do they have
twenty statues out there? They don't have twenty statues they
want they won twenty championships. There's a lot of players
who were on on all they were on his left,
but why not?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So they got Russell, they got Bird, I'm sure, and
probably maybe Coozy or one other guy or something that
makes the sense, Like he's literally the definition if you
checked all the boxes, like the face of a franchise
for a long time, not like four or five years.
Check great guy, great in the community, well respected embodiment
(07:14):
of a citizen of that area. Check winner, Check how
many rings more than one?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Check? Check?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Check?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Is that three of them? Like?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
What do you want from them? He's the embodiment of
a statue. Yes, Bill Russell, but he can't be the
standard because nobody will match that.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Eleven titles.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
He can't. Nobody can match that. So he's gonna get one. Uh,
Giannie is getting one, whether you like it or not.
You know, Giannis is getting one in Milwaukee unless he
leaves on horrible terms, if something bad happens, but he
stays there a few more years, gets the one more final.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Let alone win one more.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Giannie is getting one, yo, kids is gonna get one eventually.
Like this isn't the Lakers of Celtics where we literally
have a litany of guys who can pull for right. Well,
then we can be more judicious with it. We can say,
all right, well not this guy, but this guy. All right,
we'll not pile gasol, but this guy because we're the
the the Lakers, and we have so many players over
(08:10):
our sixty seventy year career, you know, Uh, the franchise
has been around.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
This is the heat. It's him pat Riley, and so
is Ron League getting one two. No, I'm just saying no,
he might have a jersey up there.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I bet My point is your point is you don't
want anybody to have a celebratory moment.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
No, that's not that's not it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It just seems like there's so many like now that
we're overdoing it, like everybody's the way. It just that's
what it feels like to mess right, Like, well then
when he won one? How many championships there? Dirk has one?
They won two there and he won one and he
played there eighteen years.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Right, Dirk is one?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Come on, Rob, I just I don't know me out.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I just think that we're getting inundated and overdone with everybody.
Everybody who plays, Oh, put their jersey up? Would you
admit that that there are way more jersey retirements than
we've ever seen, Like guys like like who was the
guy we just talked about, Honey Allen, Tony Allen, who
was a reserve who never Tony Allen never made the
(09:21):
All Star team. Hold on and they put up they're
putting up his jersey. I don't have any think against
Tony Allen, but that's not what a jersey retirement.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
And you we talked about it.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
He might have been a great player for them, and
he did a lot of things, but but not an
all star, Like seriously, that's what I'm saying, Like it's
starting to get to where it's so watered down and
so many things, and you're starting to blur the lines
of hor the uh, immortal players. It should be an
immortal player. And and I'm I'm rough, I'm tougher than
(09:53):
most even when you get to the Hall of Fame
with you and how you vote, like I don't think
every body belongs in the Hall of Fame. I actually agree,
I'm one of the toughest voters like that, because to me,
if there's any debate about you, you're not a Hall
of Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Should be like Barry Senters Hall of Fame, Joe Montana.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yes, you know, yes, when you start going, well, you
know he did have those four great seasons and agree
with you to that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
But the only difference, I totally get your point. The
only thing I would say is I think these are
more simply for our team and everybody's not going to
have a historied franchise where we have the luxury of
having all these guys like the Lakers and the Celtics. Uh,
you know, really just those two franchises. But you know
what I mean, We're like, if you're the Grizzlies and
GrITT and Grind was the best thing we've ever had,
(10:42):
you're gonna argue be going to honor those guys who
are part of this one moment we've had this GrITT
and Grind era and Tony Allen was I think you
might have been the one who even coined it.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
But like that, you're gonna honor that guy. So I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And more of the like the National League standardized thing
like the Hall of Fame or or for the league
officers put up statues or something.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I'm with you on that there's not a.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Statue of pat Riley Is they named the court after him.
I'm not saying that Dwayne Wade doesn't deserve like statues.
To me, are would be like Michael Jordan. Does Scottie
Pippen have a statue outside he won six championship he
deserves Okay, So that's my That's a good Roger.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
You might have to google that is that in the
world Scotty Scottie Pippen doesn't have one. It's coming.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And that's my point is like you're saying, well, Dwayne
Wade won three, Scottie won six.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It's coming, though. They don't do it when you need,
like when you think you're gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Scotty won six and there's no statue out there. He
could be like, where's my statue?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I played two? He's app Scotti Pippen is absolutely gonna
get Be.
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Speaker 1 (11:54):
Hey, you know a conversation we've had before the last
couple of weeks is, just as all these receivers are
starting to move around in the NFL, Deontay Johnson is
now in the pick swap with the Baltimore Ravens. They
were able to make some moves and get him. They
only have to pay six hundred and twenty five thousand
dollars of his salary. They're gonna be able to get
(12:18):
him and they're just gonna swap and it basically looks
like they'll go down nineteen picks in this trade, but
they're getting a good receiver. You know, you already have
Lamar Jackson, who was you know, obviously doing his thing
passing the ball to and now you get another receiver.
And that just shows the Ravens, who are at five
and three, which is much better than the actual record shows.
But they absolutely are like, we are trying to win
(12:40):
this thing whatever it takes. We're not gonna settle. We're
not gonna wrestle the Lowers. We're not gonna say, hey,
we're five and three. Were gonna let mamr. Jackson and
Derek Henry doing their thing. They're trying to get him help.
And now they got Deontay Johnson in this and it
goes to the conversation to add to by the way,
if Jay Flowers and Mark Andrews and all the guys
they got right now and Guyaaiah likely as well. It
(13:01):
reminds me of the conversations we've had with the Kansas
City chiefs of how they aren't adding really too many people.
They did get DeAndre Hopkins, but how they are not
going all out and keep making moves. They kind of
got DeAndre Hopkins and just said, all right, that's good enough.
Then we're good enough with that, and he played limited
snaps this first week with them. I'm sure he'll have
a bigger impact this week. But it seems like Kansas
(13:22):
City is just saying, man, were about to dance with
the girl who got us here. This is the squad,
this is what is we rolling with it and let
the chips fall where they many with seven and zero.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, but they wouldn't have brought into DeAndre Hopkins if
they thought that they were just gonna go with who
they have. The issue what I have with Kansas City
is that they did bring somebody in, but there were
four other wide receivers who are better, who are available.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
And even in this case, it's not even a money Thinguad.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Six hundred I got for the league. You got couch money.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
But that's what I mean where I'm saying, I genuinely
wonder with the chiefs as of them saying this is
kind of how we do it, this is who we have.
We feel good with this, We like our structure, we
like the way our personnel is set up. Because they're
just not pressed. I guess this is me actually questioning it.
They just don't seem to be pressed to get people
you know what I mean. And I don't know if
(14:13):
it's again because success begets success begets success, and they're
just like, we've won a multitude of ways, so they
weren't in a hurry to get a receiver. DeAndre hopperkinda
fell into place with him. They're like, all right, we guys,
I guess we'll take them. Like they weren't even that
pressed to get him. So it's kind of one of
those things where I just don't know what it is
that makes them not eager to be buyers.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
But well, there's a financial thing, and they've done a
lot of winning and have made a lot of money
over the last few years.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
So that's the part that's just shocking. They being cheap?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Are they just saying we we like a certain type
of guy.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Isn't there like a financial part of this, like like
of them not wanting to add on. But I'm just saying,
and we talked about before you could add money and
kick it down the you know, kick it down the road,
to kick the can down the.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Road if you want.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
It just seems very weird to me that these guys
have become available and you need receiver.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Well, honestly, Rob that would would be a better excuse
than what the Chiefs have done, because according to the Athletic,
the Carolina Panthers actually picked up just over three million
dollars at Deontay Johnson's salary. So the Baltimore Ravens, in
exchange for moving down basically like ten to fifteen slots
in the draft, are only paying six hundred and twenty
(15:34):
five thousand dollars for Johnson's salary. So if you're the Chiefs,
for the low low price of ten draft slots and
less than a minimum contract, you could add a Pro
Bowl caliber wide receiver, and for whatever reason, they decided
not to.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And I guess to the conversation, I'm saying, man like,
I don't know if they just feel like I guess
when they look at it, it's hard to argue with
seven and zero and they play, you know, mostly a
good game. You got Travis Kelsey's first touchdown again, DeAndre
Hopkins that they finally got somebody in there, and I
think he'll play more of a more of a role.
Uh and next week. Maybe that's what it is. It's
(16:12):
hard to argue with seven and zero. You would think
you want to be the rich getting richer and keep
adding guys and kind of like how we talked about
earlier with baseball, where it's like, let me keep adding guys.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I just think if you have a team and you
have this situation, it's not like you're just adding people
and you already have a full staff and you know
what I mean, and you're just being greedy and going
over the top.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
That part.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I get that part, I understand, and and I say, okay,
that that makes total sense.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But they've lost so many people.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah they keep Yeah, they keep losing receivers, running backs
as well. But I just think that's what that's the
The difficulty with winning is that they're like, man, we
wanted so many different ways, and uh with what stars
no stars bad last year. Guys can't hold on the ball.
Everybody's got butterfingers, And so maybe that's it. And also
having a great defense like they do that keeps him
(17:01):
in games and turns people over, gets some extra possessions,
scores touchdowns. I think the defense also makes him say, oh,
you know, we're kind of in this. And I think
there's also a belief that we're gonna get it right,
meaning Travis Kelce.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
He finally got a touchdown. We're gonna get it right.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Travis Kelsey is gonna start getting you know, getting better
and getting the groove, and Patrick Mahomes is gonna play better.
So maybe there's also that belief that, man, this is
our floor right now. This is as bad as we're
gonna play throughout the season. We're only up from here.
And look at you know, and look at us. We're
doing this without the best personnel. We should be able
to get better, by the way. In this game right now, man,
(17:37):
this World Series Game two. You got runners on second
and third, one out, Carlos Stanton right now, John Carlostateton.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Did he get hit? What was he swung? I couldn't really,
I'm talking to him.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
The ball hit him, but I think he was ship swinginging,
so it didn't even though it hit him, but not
the bat. So the Yankees have two guys on and
one out in the third inning and John Carlo up,
so the bases are loaded.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Now yeah, all right, this is this is it there.
But this is a huge bullpre.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
This is what we talk about all the time with
the bullpen, is guys could be off, you know what
I mean, when you're relying on six or seven guys
to come pitch. Everybody's not gonna be everybody's not gonna
the chances are not good.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
It happened sometimes.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You remember against the Padres, they pitched a shutout in
that game, the bullpen right in game four. Yeah, you
know what I mean, Like that was one night when
you had a magical night and everybody was on.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
But here we go.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Uh yeah, I just I just think it's not often
that this kind of talent is available. And all I'm saying,
even if it's just a one year deal or a rental,
what do you care about the future. You got Patrick Mahomes,
you got an aging Travis Kelce, you're trying to win
a third. You're trying to do something that nobody's ever done.
Why would you not load up on this year and
(18:57):
then if I want to pull back for next year
after we become the team never win three set, right, Yeah,
like that's something to play for.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Let me add to you to that.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You look at a team like the Rams when they
were just basically like we're going all in.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
They got rid of draft picks, they.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Got Von Tayler, they got they got they they got
obj They were like we're going all in. We're getting
any and everybody made a couple other trade. Felt like
we got this team with some special players at Stafford.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Here we go, mister.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Donald, you know what I mean, Like, we want to win, win, Wow,
we want to win. We want to win here one
time and and we'll live with the rest.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
And now they're sellers. It looks right.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And if you remember the forty nine ers in the heyday,
they did all that and then they got you know,
they had to pay the piper at some point, and
then they dismantled their team and they didn't win for
a long time, but they had a dynasty.
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soberheit of maybe, but if you look at the record
books this, guys like Gary Geeter, Bernie Williams, of course,
(22:04):
mister October himself, Reggie Jackson who have slightly better I
think statistics that have been there more often and more consistent.
But Freeman has ascended to that class. So you know
you have to find another nickname for him, though, because
miss October, mister November take it.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I'm with j R. Foul that.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
No, no, no, it's because Reggie Jackson. Let's Freddie Freeman
has been tremendous. Reggie Jackson won three World Searches with
the Oakland Ages before he ever got to New York, Right,
and then hit the three home runs, offer three different
pitchers on three consecutive pitches like that will never be
done by anybody you talk about hereing the home runs
(22:45):
in all these games, Reggie Jackson has missed the October
to me, and that doesn't take anything away from Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
No answers foul, But to that.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Is awesome to see, Like you know how we always
have things from the past, and like we make it
like that. It can never change, it can't. He is
mister October. Uh, but Freddy has definitely created his own lane.
I don't know if they want to come up with
another one. Mister Fall says, his name is Freddie Freeman,
like Freddie you know something, mister Fall or something. But
what he did, Yeah, that's yeah, mister Fall, Freddie Fall
(23:17):
or something like that, Freddie Fall.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Right, Yeah, I like that better than mister October. All right,
but hold on pretend you I didn't hear that one.
Let me go trademark.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Well, let's just say though, if Freddie Freeman plays as
many World Series games as time, he is going to
blow his numbers out of the water.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Plays a lot.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I played twenty seven World Series games. Yeah, that's I
is going.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
To play that many, but maybe we'll see.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You didn't hear what Dave Roberts said, It's a dynasty,
hey go question not number two.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Now that the World Series overall, I shift and of
course the free agency no bigger fish in that free
agent pond than Juan Soto. And you know, in fact,
ESPN's Carl Raviitch said this morning on ESPN he thinks
Soda will get at least minimum starting dollar seven hundred
million dollars in his next deal. Again, something start with
(24:04):
the seven, if not maybe even eight in front of it.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Okay, here's the question. J are foul or fairness said?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
As good as Soto is, a team will regret giving
him a seven hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Uh, fair, it's a full ball. If you've been watching
baseball pass twenty years or so, you know these few
contracts rarely work out. And I'm still skeptical even on
Otani's contract, because get hurt, they get older, and they
don't get healthier and better as the contact goes on.
(24:39):
So let's be honest, there's only a few teams who
can sign. So the Rob and I spoke about this
on the Inside the Parking Podcast earlier, Matt Giants, the Yankees,
maybe a dark horse of Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
In the mess they have, you know.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Gobs the money to spend. But come on, the price
is only relevant to the team and how it feels
to constructs the winner round Sodal. I don't think any
player is worth that money, but the owners have burst
out the scenes of millions of dollars, and that's what
the market requires. But of course the team always regreted
unless they win to championship.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Fair, it's a ball.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
No one humans really worth that much, including y'all know
how I feel about show Hat and including show Hay.
And it's not as if Soto is gonna be out
there pitching. Uh. And at least you could at least
try to rationalize, Hey, I got a twenty game twenty
five games, you know, starter in show Hay, as well
as a hitter.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, that you that back end of that money.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
See Auberpool Holes, see Josh Hamilton, see so many guys
where you're like, how much it I pay him? So no,
I don't think it's ever gonna be worth it, So
fair to say it won't be worth it.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna say fair as well ball.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I think I think Carl Ravage was on the deep
end because the only reason to show he got is
because he's a two way player.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, No, I just don't.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
And and Wan Soto had a great year of the
Yankees forty one home runs career high. I think he
battered two eighty eight. He had a tremendous season. But
really seven eight hundred million, I don't see that six six,
which is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
In six, that is absolutely ridiculous if you think about
the money money they're making shopping.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
In the welfare last six hundred million.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
But that's how much money baseball is taking in. I
don't let anybody tell you, all right, last one Fowler
Fair Jr. Gamble sitting in with the Fellas. Speaking of Otani,
he capped off the historic fifty to fifty MVP season
with the World Series title. As you know, even though
the shoulder injury prevented him from actually doing anything in
the Fall Classic. Even still, after the game, Andrew Friedman
(26:39):
said that this World Series ring gives Otani quote a
legitimate argument as the greatest player of all time.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Stop rolling your eyes, Rob Parker, jail, I didn't even
look at him and factor in the two way ability.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
The MVPs and now the championship, or fair to call
Otani the goat.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
New time in twenty twenty four. Foul.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
That is a foul ball.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
No, that's utterly ridiculous and disrespectful to the real legends
and bricklayers of the game. Stop it, no way, no
how as Rob Parker would say, let's end the discussions
for the seasons right here. I'm feachless on that one.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Uh No, that is absolutely foul. He that is a
foul ball.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
The reason why he still has about you know, four
or five legitimate, really really good years. Let's talk then,
But right now, it's too early. He hasn't even pitched
for the Dodgers yet. Let's see I he goes out,
wins him twenty games and has another fifty sixty home
run season.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
He's got to do some more.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You gotta give me another ring, another two or three
amazing season. Then we can start to have the conversation.
But no, even as a fan, No, then we got
to settle down. Pump the brakes, hold up. It's a
little too early for that.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yes, foul, of course, is is there any potent?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Well, you know you're gonna say five, but at least
for me, the window is open.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well, but I just need a lot more.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
And when when people start saying that, and I get
it prisoner of the moment, But the disrespect to guy
like Hank Aaron, who twenty four years averaged one hundred
RBIs okay if you take away yeah, if you take
away Hank Aaron's seven hundred and fifty five career home runs,
he still had three thousand hits, Like you cannot discount
(28:29):
how many years and his production and what he was
able to do. And then you got Willie Mays and
Barry Bonds like to just say that this guy after
four years is the greatest player ever is ridiculous, especially
when he didn't win the World Series MVP and then
hit a Grand Slam home run in the bottom of
the ninth to win.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
You know what I mean, you gotta give me it
is baloney. I'm not saying blogea with a litle mustard.
I ain't mad at that. It depends. Is this the seventies?
What I know you're not talking.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm just saying, right J when we were kids, maybe
fried baloney.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
First of all, I'm not convintional eat fry baloni right now?
Why watch you eat every day?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Foni is baloney? Alex and Rob gal stretch for Rob. No,
Rob guy? What do I eat? Alex?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Alex already knows when I'm at home and I'm making
something for a snack.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Oh meat, she's in mayo, baby, that's right. But it's boloney,
is the mean? No, it's not bolooney. It's usually ham
with a little mayo and cheese. Whoa exotic?
Speaker 6 (29:29):
All right?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, J for everything this year. This is your last
appearance for the baseball season. My man, great job. It's
so ha Tuesday. Goodbye to j A thank you brother.
It's been a blast.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of Lead on Couple with
Chris Brusa and Rod Parker.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Let's talk about the NBA YEP and the Dwayne Wade statue.
Have you seen the Dwayne Wade statue?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Could I not? My timeline was lit up with it.
Talk about it? Man?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Uh, I call it d wrong. That wasn't d Wade.
That was d wrong. That was they did my man bad.
He tried to save face and obviously he's excited. Look
is his statue. It means a lot. He was emotional,
He got his family there the unveiling. They talk about
what he meant to the city.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
But dag it, we gotta start looking at these statues.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Midway through, we gotta stop and sall right, I mean,
you know, listen, anything you do you usually take a
look at right, alright, let me see him, he says, Okay, shoot,
if you're going out at night with an outfit, you
stopped to look all right, let me see there's the
shirt match. Okay, the shoot look a right. I'm trying
to figure out what some of these sculptures, what are
we doing? Because that didn't look deep. He looked over Wade.
He looked like out of shape d Wade. His face
(01:22):
was all the beerd was swollen. It wasn't the best.
The sentiment was there, but the actual artwork was not
the best. But again for him, mister Miami, mister three
oh five, you know in Wade County instead of Day
County they call it Wade County. Being the biggest freend
you know, person of that franchise outside of pat Riley.
(01:45):
It was absolutely well deserved. It was absolutely the sentiment
and game was there. But they they couldn't did a
much better job of the statue. The statue wasn't, wasn't it.
Christiano Ronaldo was somewhere smiling right now, like, who good?
They messed him up. I ain't the only one getting
messed up statues aroun out here. Whoever did Kobe's that first?
They need to go do that one. Whoever did Kobe Bryants,
you are now mandated to do all statues, at least
(02:07):
in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Will keep it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
We'll keep it in the same sport that person is
mandated to do all the NBA statues.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I just think it's another example of overdoing it with statues.
This is an awful statue of Dwyane Wade and Rob.
Do you have a statement from him?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah? So two things.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Number One, according to social his own social media d
Way was part of the creation of this statue, so
he's seen it in all the faith, so he signed
off on it. He doesn't get any kind of excuse
on that one. But number two, the Associated Press caught
up with him on a Monday morning to ask him
about the viral sensation that is the d Wade statue.
Here's what he said about it, asking about if he
(02:47):
cares about the mockery that has become. I care, but
I don't. The social media world's all about opinions. Everyone
has an opinion. Everyone used your opinion. Please talk more
about us, talk more about this statue. I'm on down
and see it, take some photos, send some memes. We
don't care. Then he adds later, if I wanted it
to look like me. I just stand outside the arena
(03:09):
and y'all can take photos. It doesn't need to look
like me. It's the artist version of a moment that
happened that we're trying to cement.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I like the first part. I didn't need the second part.
He was right there. Hey, you know it's not about that.
Everybody's gonna have their own opinion. Come down, see the statue,
have a good time. That was cool, great answer, man.
It's not supposed to look like me. You know, that's
exactly what it's supposed to look like. It is a
statue of you. It is your bus, it is your
whatever you want to call it. So it does need
to look like him. So the first part of his
answer great, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Buying any of it, but the bottom line is they
got it wrong, all right.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
It doesn't look like him.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It is supposed to have a feel that you're looking
at the player that was in a catcher moment.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, in a moment or whatever. He just it just
doesn't look like him.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I mean it was like the Alan Iverson won a
really little statue.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Was outside the practice facility.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That that.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Looked awful as well.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And this is the we've gotten like over zealous with
statues and retiring everybody's number and all this don't where
is this all coming from?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And and Dwayne Wade.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Was a great player for I don't and I don't
have a problem with it being uh, Dwayne Wade getting
his number retired. You don't say, Okay, whoa but but
but everybody gets a statue.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Everybody shouldn't get it. You should be a transcending player.
Dwayne Wade can't get a statue. I'm sorry, everybody shouldn't
get a statue.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Dwayne Wade literally is an entire franchise.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So so Lebron should get to should get one down
there too, because he won two champion.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
He's gonna get one in Cleveland. No, she's why not
he won two in Miami.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Because he's not the face of that freaking franchise like
Dwayne Wade is.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I think they got a man. He gave it one,
but he should Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
They're going to have a massive statue the size of
the one in Patroya, South South Africa where I saw
Nelson Mandelas was huge.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
They're gonna have one of Lebron in Cleveland. Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I've already seen the drawing. In one hand, it'll be
a basketball. On the other hand, it will be a suitcase.
I've already seen his statue.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Hey, well, it's gonna be a massive statue. What do
you mean, Dwayne Wade? I can't. The poo pool level
knows no end with you.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Dwayne Wade is the face of an entire franchise. He
has rings pre Lebron, rings with Lebron. He's been the
finals one first before, yes, three times. What do you
want from a franchise? What more do you want from
a franchise? Like he's the embodiment of a team. Is
going to in statue. Somebody gives someone a statue, He's
(05:45):
the embodiment to me.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I don't think that everybody do. Look at your face.
You don't even know this. I'm dead suit high school?
Did you go to I'm dead? Sirs? Wow? They never
call you and me. We're gonna give you a statue?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
No, no, no, I would have been in a part
of it six minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
No. Now, you over on everything.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I just think that like that, you should be a
transcendent player. I'm gonna run off like it's Dwayne Wade
the top twenty players of all time, like like.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Those third best shooting guy. I don't know Jordan, Kobe him.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
No, but I'm talking about like top twenty all time,
Like those are the people that you should have statues.
Those are the people who left an imprint not only
for that team but for the league. So if it's
a Kareem or if it's a Jordan, every Larry Bird,
if you want to put one in Boston.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Or somebody, Wait, why is Larry get one over Dway?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No, But I'm just trying to say, like you you
would have to put like, uh, with the Celtics, they
won all those championships, do you have do they have
twenty statues out there? They don't have twenty statues they
want they won twenty championships. There's a lot of players
who were on on all they were on his left,
but why not?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So they got Russell, they got Bird, I'm sure, and
probably maybe Coozy or one other guy or something that
makes the sense, Like he's literally the definition if you
checked all the boxes, like the face of a franchise
for a long time, not like four or five years.
Check great guy, great in the community, well respected embodiment
(07:14):
of a citizen of that area. Check winner, Check how
many rings more than one?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Check? Check?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Check?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Is that three of them? Like?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
What do you want from them? He's the embodiment of
a statue. Yes, Bill Russell, but he can't be the
standard because nobody will match that.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Eleven titles.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
He can't. Nobody can match that. So he's gonna get one. Uh,
Giannie is getting one, whether you like it or not.
You know, Giannis is getting one in Milwaukee unless he
leaves on horrible terms, if something bad happens, but he
stays there a few more years, gets the one more final.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Let alone win one more.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Giannie is getting one, yo, kids is gonna get one eventually.
Like this isn't the Lakers of Celtics where we literally
have a litany of guys who can pull for right. Well,
then we can be more judicious with it. We can say,
all right, well not this guy, but this guy. All right,
we'll not pile gasol, but this guy because we're the
the the Lakers, and we have so many players over
(08:10):
our sixty seventy year career, you know, Uh, the franchise
has been around.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
This is the heat. It's him pat Riley, and so
is Ron League getting one two. No, I'm just saying no,
he might have a jersey up there.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I bet My point is your point is you don't
want anybody to have a celebratory moment.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
No, that's not that's not it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It just seems like there's so many like now that
we're overdoing it, like everybody's the way. It just that's
what it feels like to mess right, Like, well then
when he won one? How many championships there? Dirk has one?
They won two there and he won one and he
played there eighteen years.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Right, Dirk is one?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Come on, Rob, I just I don't know me out.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I just think that we're getting inundated and overdone with everybody.
Everybody who plays, Oh, put their jersey up? Would you
admit that that there are way more jersey retirements than
we've ever seen, Like guys like like who was the
guy we just talked about, Honey Allen, Tony Allen, who
was a reserve who never Tony Allen never made the
(09:21):
All Star team. Hold on and they put up they're
putting up his jersey. I don't have any think against
Tony Allen, but that's not what a jersey retirement.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
And you we talked about it.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
He might have been a great player for them, and
he did a lot of things, but but not an
all star, Like seriously, that's what I'm saying, Like it's
starting to get to where it's so watered down and
so many things, and you're starting to blur the lines
of hor the uh, immortal players. It should be an
immortal player. And and I'm I'm rough, I'm tougher than
(09:53):
most even when you get to the Hall of Fame
with you and how you vote, like I don't think
every body belongs in the Hall of Fame. I actually agree,
I'm one of the toughest voters like that, because to me,
if there's any debate about you, you're not a Hall
of Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Should be like Barry Senters Hall of Fame, Joe Montana.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yes, you know, yes, when you start going, well, you
know he did have those four great seasons and agree
with you to that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
But the only difference, I totally get your point. The
only thing I would say is I think these are
more simply for our team and everybody's not going to
have a historied franchise where we have the luxury of
having all these guys like the Lakers and the Celtics. Uh,
you know, really just those two franchises. But you know
what I mean, We're like, if you're the Grizzlies and
GrITT and Grind was the best thing we've ever had,
(10:42):
you're gonna argue be going to honor those guys who
are part of this one moment we've had this GrITT
and Grind era and Tony Allen was I think you
might have been the one who even coined it.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
But like that, you're gonna honor that guy. So I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And more of the like the National League standardized thing
like the Hall of Fame or or for the league
officers put up statues or something.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I'm with you on that there's not a.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Statue of pat Riley Is they named the court after him.
I'm not saying that Dwayne Wade doesn't deserve like statues.
To me, are would be like Michael Jordan. Does Scottie
Pippen have a statue outside he won six championship he
deserves Okay, So that's my That's a good Roger.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
You might have to google that is that in the
world Scotty Scottie Pippen doesn't have one. It's coming.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And that's my point is like you're saying, well, Dwayne
Wade won three, Scottie won six.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It's coming, though. They don't do it when you need,
like when you think you're gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Scotty won six and there's no statue out there. He
could be like, where's my statue?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I played two? He's app Scotti Pippen is absolutely gonna
get Be.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
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Speaker 1 (11:54):
Hey, you know a conversation we've had before the last
couple of weeks is, just as all these receivers are
starting to move around in the NFL, Deontay Johnson is
now in the pick swap with the Baltimore Ravens. They
were able to make some moves and get him. They
only have to pay six hundred and twenty five thousand
dollars of his salary. They're gonna be able to get
(12:18):
him and they're just gonna swap and it basically looks
like they'll go down nineteen picks in this trade, but
they're getting a good receiver. You know, you already have
Lamar Jackson, who was you know, obviously doing his thing
passing the ball to and now you get another receiver.
And that just shows the Ravens, who are at five
and three, which is much better than the actual record shows.
But they absolutely are like, we are trying to win
(12:40):
this thing whatever it takes. We're not gonna settle. We're
not gonna wrestle the Lowers. We're not gonna say, hey,
we're five and three. Were gonna let mamr. Jackson and
Derek Henry doing their thing. They're trying to get him help.
And now they got Deontay Johnson in this and it
goes to the conversation to add to by the way,
if Jay Flowers and Mark Andrews and all the guys
they got right now and Guyaaiah likely as well. It
(13:01):
reminds me of the conversations we've had with the Kansas
City chiefs of how they aren't adding really too many people.
They did get DeAndre Hopkins, but how they are not
going all out and keep making moves. They kind of
got DeAndre Hopkins and just said, all right, that's good enough.
Then we're good enough with that, and he played limited
snaps this first week with them. I'm sure he'll have
a bigger impact this week. But it seems like Kansas
(13:22):
City is just saying, man, were about to dance with
the girl who got us here. This is the squad,
this is what is we rolling with it and let
the chips fall where they many with seven and zero.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, but they wouldn't have brought into DeAndre Hopkins if
they thought that they were just gonna go with who
they have. The issue what I have with Kansas City
is that they did bring somebody in, but there were
four other wide receivers who are better, who are available.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
And even in this case, it's not even a money Thinguad.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Six hundred I got for the league. You got couch money.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
But that's what I mean where I'm saying, I genuinely
wonder with the chiefs as of them saying this is
kind of how we do it, this is who we have.
We feel good with this, We like our structure, we
like the way our personnel is set up. Because they're
just not pressed. I guess this is me actually questioning it.
They just don't seem to be pressed to get people
you know what I mean. And I don't know if
(14:13):
it's again because success begets success begets success, and they're
just like, we've won a multitude of ways, so they
weren't in a hurry to get a receiver. DeAndre hopperkinda
fell into place with him. They're like, all right, we guys,
I guess we'll take them. Like they weren't even that
pressed to get him. So it's kind of one of
those things where I just don't know what it is
that makes them not eager to be buyers.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
But well, there's a financial thing, and they've done a
lot of winning and have made a lot of money
over the last few years.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
So that's the part that's just shocking. They being cheap?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Are they just saying we we like a certain type
of guy.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Isn't there like a financial part of this, like like
of them not wanting to add on. But I'm just saying,
and we talked about before you could add money and
kick it down the you know, kick it down the road,
to kick the can down the.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Road if you want.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
It just seems very weird to me that these guys
have become available and you need receiver.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Well, honestly, Rob that would would be a better excuse
than what the Chiefs have done, because according to the Athletic,
the Carolina Panthers actually picked up just over three million
dollars at Deontay Johnson's salary. So the Baltimore Ravens, in
exchange for moving down basically like ten to fifteen slots
in the draft, are only paying six hundred and twenty
(15:34):
five thousand dollars for Johnson's salary. So if you're the Chiefs,
for the low low price of ten draft slots and
less than a minimum contract, you could add a Pro
Bowl caliber wide receiver, and for whatever reason, they decided
not to.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And I guess to the conversation, I'm saying, man like,
I don't know if they just feel like I guess
when they look at it, it's hard to argue with
seven and zero and they play, you know, mostly a
good game. You got Travis Kelsey's first touchdown again, DeAndre
Hopkins that they finally got somebody in there, and I
think he'll play more of a more of a role.
Uh and next week. Maybe that's what it is. It's
(16:12):
hard to argue with seven and zero. You would think
you want to be the rich getting richer and keep
adding guys and kind of like how we talked about
earlier with baseball, where it's like, let me keep adding guys.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I just think if you have a team and you
have this situation, it's not like you're just adding people
and you already have a full staff and you know
what I mean, and you're just being greedy and going
over the top.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
That part.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I get that part, I understand, and and I say, okay,
that that makes total sense.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But they've lost so many people.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah they keep Yeah, they keep losing receivers, running backs
as well. But I just think that's what that's the
The difficulty with winning is that they're like, man, we
wanted so many different ways, and uh with what stars
no stars bad last year. Guys can't hold on the ball.
Everybody's got butterfingers, And so maybe that's it. And also
having a great defense like they do that keeps him
(17:01):
in games and turns people over, gets some extra possessions,
scores touchdowns. I think the defense also makes him say, oh,
you know, we're kind of in this. And I think
there's also a belief that we're gonna get it right,
meaning Travis Kelce.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
He finally got a touchdown. We're gonna get it right.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Travis Kelsey is gonna start getting you know, getting better
and getting the groove, and Patrick Mahomes is gonna play better.
So maybe there's also that belief that, man, this is
our floor right now. This is as bad as we're
gonna play throughout the season. We're only up from here.
And look at you know, and look at us. We're
doing this without the best personnel. We should be able
to get better, by the way. In this game right now, man,
(17:37):
this World Series Game two. You got runners on second
and third, one out, Carlos Stanton right now, John Carlostateton.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Did he get hit? What was he swung? I couldn't really,
I'm talking to him.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
The ball hit him, but I think he was ship swinginging,
so it didn't even though it hit him, but not
the bat. So the Yankees have two guys on and
one out in the third inning and John Carlo up,
so the bases are loaded.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Now yeah, all right, this is this is it there.
But this is a huge bullpre.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
This is what we talk about all the time with
the bullpen, is guys could be off, you know what
I mean, when you're relying on six or seven guys
to come pitch. Everybody's not gonna be everybody's not gonna
the chances are not good.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
It happened sometimes.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You remember against the Padres, they pitched a shutout in
that game, the bullpen right in game four. Yeah, you
know what I mean, Like that was one night when
you had a magical night and everybody was on.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
But here we go.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Uh yeah, I just I just think it's not often
that this kind of talent is available. And all I'm saying,
even if it's just a one year deal or a rental,
what do you care about the future. You got Patrick Mahomes,
you got an aging Travis Kelce, you're trying to win
a third. You're trying to do something that nobody's ever done.
Why would you not load up on this year and
(18:57):
then if I want to pull back for next year
after we become the team never win three set, right, Yeah,
like that's something to play for.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Let me add to you to that.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You look at a team like the Rams when they
were just basically like we're going all in.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
They got rid of draft picks, they.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Got Von Tayler, they got they got they they got
obj They were like we're going all in. We're getting
any and everybody made a couple other trade. Felt like
we got this team with some special players at Stafford.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Here we go, mister.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Donald, you know what I mean, Like, we want to win, win, Wow,
we want to win. We want to win here one
time and and we'll live with the rest.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
And now they're sellers. It looks right.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And if you remember the forty nine ers in the heyday,
they did all that and then they got you know,
they had to pay the piper at some point, and
then they dismantled their team and they didn't win for
a long time, but they had a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
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Speaker 4 (20:04):
Who's who's a.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Is it foul?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Or is it fair?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
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Speaker 4 (20:16):
Gamble that's right, it is Fowler fair.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Here on the ochable Fox Sports Rader say, we go
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Speaker 4 (20:24):
The last one of the season.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
He had to do it properly with the man, the
mid the legend, the star of the MLB bro dot
Com JR Gamble.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
What's up? Bro?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
What? What's up?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Fella?
Speaker 6 (20:34):
What's up? Rob? Rob Calvin? We are coming to the
end of another great season and I'm happy that I
made it.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
And he was in the Boogie Down Bronx all three
games for mlbbro dot Com.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
So he was there.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
He saw the maldown personal did all right, guys, Let's
get to it. JR Star the same against the first
crack at every question. Here we go now to no
one's surprised. Freddie Freeman took on World Series MVP last night.
He had three hundred for the series, four homers, twelve RBI.
He was killing it.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
But there's more, all right.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Freeman has had an RBI and seven straight World Series games,
tied for the third longest stretch in history. He also
has at least one hitting every World Series game he's
ever played in, and for his World Series career, Freeman's
in three ten and eleven games, six homer seventeen RBI,
the most by any player through his.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
First two World Series appearances. I'm already saying foul already
are we already know?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
That's fair to say that Freddie Freeman is the real
mister rodd.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I don't even see the notes.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
I knew that that's a good question, but foul.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That is a foul ball, and.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
That's why you couldn't even get the question finished. There's
only one missed October and that's Reggie Jackson. As lethal
as Freeman's been, I don't think he's accomplished the power
performance of a Reggie. He's been the most consistent, not
soberheit of maybe, but if you look at the record
books this, guys like Gary Geeter, Bernie Williams, of course,
(22:04):
mister October himself, Reggie Jackson who have slightly better I
think statistics that have been there more often and more consistent.
But Freeman has ascended to that class. So you know
you have to find another nickname for him, though, because
miss October, mister November take it.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I'm with j R. Foul that.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
No, no, no, it's because Reggie Jackson. Let's Freddie Freeman
has been tremendous. Reggie Jackson won three World Searches with
the Oakland Ages before he ever got to New York, Right,
and then hit the three home runs, offer three different
pitchers on three consecutive pitches like that will never be
done by anybody you talk about hereing the home runs
(22:45):
in all these games, Reggie Jackson has missed the October
to me, and that doesn't take anything away from Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
No answers foul, But to that.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Is awesome to see, Like you know how we always
have things from the past, and like we make it
like that. It can never change, it can't. He is
mister October. Uh, but Freddy has definitely created his own lane.
I don't know if they want to come up with
another one. Mister Fall says, his name is Freddie Freeman,
like Freddie you know something, mister Fall or something. But
what he did, Yeah, that's yeah, mister Fall, Freddie Fall
(23:17):
or something like that, Freddie Fall.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Right, Yeah, I like that better than mister October. All right,
but hold on pretend you I didn't hear that one.
Let me go trademark.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Well, let's just say though, if Freddie Freeman plays as
many World Series games as time, he is going to
blow his numbers out of the water.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Plays a lot.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I played twenty seven World Series games. Yeah, that's I
is going.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
To play that many, but maybe we'll see.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You didn't hear what Dave Roberts said, It's a dynasty,
hey go question not number two.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Now that the World Series overall, I shift and of
course the free agency no bigger fish in that free
agent pond than Juan Soto. And you know, in fact,
ESPN's Carl Raviitch said this morning on ESPN he thinks
Soda will get at least minimum starting dollar seven hundred
million dollars in his next deal. Again, something start with
(24:04):
the seven, if not maybe even eight in front of it.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Okay, here's the question. J are foul or fairness said?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
As good as Soto is, a team will regret giving
him a seven hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Uh, fair, it's a full ball. If you've been watching
baseball pass twenty years or so, you know these few
contracts rarely work out. And I'm still skeptical even on
Otani's contract, because get hurt, they get older, and they
don't get healthier and better as the contact goes on.
(24:39):
So let's be honest, there's only a few teams who
can sign. So the Rob and I spoke about this
on the Inside the Parking Podcast earlier, Matt Giants, the Yankees,
maybe a dark horse of Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
In the mess they have, you know.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Gobs the money to spend. But come on, the price
is only relevant to the team and how it feels
to constructs the winner round Sodal. I don't think any
player is worth that money, but the owners have burst
out the scenes of millions of dollars, and that's what
the market requires. But of course the team always regreted
unless they win to championship.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Fair, it's a ball.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
No one humans really worth that much, including y'all know
how I feel about show Hat and including show Hay.
And it's not as if Soto is gonna be out
there pitching. Uh. And at least you could at least
try to rationalize, Hey, I got a twenty game twenty
five games, you know, starter in show Hay, as well
as a hitter.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, that you that back end of that money.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
See Auberpool Holes, see Josh Hamilton, see so many guys
where you're like, how much it I pay him? So no,
I don't think it's ever gonna be worth it, So
fair to say it won't be worth it.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna say fair as well ball.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I think I think Carl Ravage was on the deep
end because the only reason to show he got is
because he's a two way player.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, No, I just don't.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
And and Wan Soto had a great year of the
Yankees forty one home runs career high. I think he
battered two eighty eight. He had a tremendous season. But
really seven eight hundred million, I don't see that six six,
which is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
In six, that is absolutely ridiculous if you think about
the money money they're making shopping.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
In the welfare last six hundred million.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
But that's how much money baseball is taking in. I
don't let anybody tell you, all right, last one Fowler
Fair Jr. Gamble sitting in with the Fellas. Speaking of Otani,
he capped off the historic fifty to fifty MVP season
with the World Series title. As you know, even though
the shoulder injury prevented him from actually doing anything in
the Fall Classic. Even still, after the game, Andrew Friedman
(26:39):
said that this World Series ring gives Otani quote a
legitimate argument as the greatest player of all time.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Stop rolling your eyes, Rob Parker, jail, I didn't even
look at him and factor in the two way ability.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
The MVPs and now the championship, or fair to call
Otani the goat.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
New time in twenty twenty four. Foul.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
That is a foul ball.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
No, that's utterly ridiculous and disrespectful to the real legends
and bricklayers of the game. Stop it, no way, no
how as Rob Parker would say, let's end the discussions
for the seasons right here. I'm feachless on that one.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Uh No, that is absolutely foul. He that is a
foul ball.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
The reason why he still has about you know, four
or five legitimate, really really good years. Let's talk then,
But right now, it's too early. He hasn't even pitched
for the Dodgers yet. Let's see I he goes out,
wins him twenty games and has another fifty sixty home
run season.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
He's got to do some more.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You gotta give me another ring, another two or three
amazing season. Then we can start to have the conversation.
But no, even as a fan, No, then we got
to settle down. Pump the brakes, hold up. It's a
little too early for that.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yes, foul, of course, is is there any potent?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Well, you know you're gonna say five, but at least
for me, the window is open.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well, but I just need a lot more.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
And when when people start saying that, and I get
it prisoner of the moment, But the disrespect to guy
like Hank Aaron, who twenty four years averaged one hundred
RBIs okay if you take away yeah, if you take
away Hank Aaron's seven hundred and fifty five career home runs,
he still had three thousand hits, Like you cannot discount
(28:29):
how many years and his production and what he was
able to do. And then you got Willie Mays and
Barry Bonds like to just say that this guy after
four years is the greatest player ever is ridiculous, especially
when he didn't win the World Series MVP and then
hit a Grand Slam home run in the bottom of
the ninth to win.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
You know what I mean, you gotta give me it
is baloney. I'm not saying blogea with a litle mustard.
I ain't mad at that. It depends. Is this the seventies?
What I know you're not talking.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm just saying, right J when we were kids, maybe
fried baloney.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
First of all, I'm not convintional eat fry baloni right now?
Why watch you eat every day?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Foni is baloney? Alex and Rob gal stretch for Rob. No,
Rob guy? What do I eat? Alex?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Alex already knows when I'm at home and I'm making
something for a snack.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Oh meat, she's in mayo, baby, that's right. But it's boloney,
is the mean? No, it's not bolooney. It's usually ham
with a little mayo and cheese. Whoa exotic?
Speaker 6 (29:29):
All right?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, J for everything this year. This is your last
appearance for the baseball season. My man, great job. It's
so ha Tuesday. Goodbye to j A thank you brother.
It's been a blast.
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