November 5, 2024 • 31 mins
Rob and Kelvin discuss why we don’t talk about the undefeated Kansas City Chiefs the same way we discussed the undefeated 2007 New England Patriots and debate whether Los Angeles Dodgers reliever Joe Kelly should be able to talk trash about the New York Yankees after winning the World Series. Plus, former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines around the League.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Has there ever been a team that was trying to
go for something we hadn't seen ever? Three championships in
a row, three Super Bowl titles in a row, the
defending world champs that are eight tozer that nobody talks
about or is really overly hyping, because that's what's happening
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with the Kansas City Chiefs and watching them yesterday, they
did exactly what I told you. And I was sitting
here watching the game and towards the end of our show,
I was watching the Bucks and I think they got
a turn over and they just couldn't score on it,
and it was just the game was toughn too close.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I said, this is how you lose.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
To the Chiefs. This is literally becoming scripted. You know
exactly what they're gonna do for the first time in
Patrick Mahomes's career the last year, year and a half
or season and a half. He can make a mistake,
throw a turnover, fumble the ball, Travis Kelsey fumbles a
couple of times, lose this one yesterday, and the defense
can look at that offense, at Patrick Mahomes and say,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We got you for once. We got you. Don't even
worry about it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Patrick Mahomes now with the DeAndre Hopkins, who I knew
was gonna be a fit as far as having somebody
with steady hands, somebody who can be dependable, somebody can
be reliable and make big plays when you need them.
They just finally make the right play or two and
win the game. And you look up up, it's exactly
what I thought it'd be twenty four to twenty and
it'd be in like twenty six to twenty. They're just
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marching and moving along exactly where you kind of thought
they'd be methodically, And all of a sudden, they're sitting
here and they know and it's like nobody's having a
conversation about the team that is having a chance to
go for three peat, three peat, Brandy champs, and we
don't talk about them. And I was just watching last
night laughing like this is probably what they want. We
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fly under the radar somehow, if you will, and radar ish.
I mean, obviously there's a chance. So we talk about
them a bit, but not as much as we do
either teams who are floundering and the Cowboys and the Jets,
or this team doesn't look good, or maybe the Lions
or the Ravens or hey, don't forget about those Eagles
making a comeback and the Kansas City Chiefs to sit
here right on schedule to be doing what the Patriots did,
go undefeated, and obviously they want to do what they
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did and didn't do and win a Super Bowl. But
I'm just like, man, there ain't no and we don't
even talk about them. And I'm not saying this or
you and I, but like we as a whole people
aren't really talking about this team has a chance to
do his make history and go three and three straight
Super Bowl titles.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, I'm not surprised because you talked about it earlier
about they have the eight to no record hasn't been
that impressive, and like like That's that's the reason why
if I remember correctly, the Patriots, they were blowing people
away exactly. It was just they were putting on a show.
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And and you haven't seen this all of I think
I think all of the Chiefs wins this year have
been less by six six and under or something like that,
like really really all close games, games that could have
gone a couple that could have easily gone other ways.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And only is this the Chiefs right here? Oh this
is the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Okay, So only four of their wins were less than
two scores out right, and and and that's what the
difference is. So they were riding a wave and you
felt like, oh my god, you're watching this team, whereas
really that this was Patrick Mahomes's best night eight weeks
in right games in like there were a lot of
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games where he had two picks and two picks and
no touchdowns or one touchdown and two picks, and they
needed something to happen for them to win. And I
think that's why people aren't there yet. Now if you
get into it and it's fifteen or thirteen or twe
you know, and they're playing better like they played in
the second half in the second half, especially because the
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first half was not good, right, We're like, this is bad,
but the second half was really good. And I think
that was the one that if they were to continue
and even now now, let's just they still won, right
by a touchdown? Right, Okay, did they blow out Tampa Bay?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
No they did not. The game was in Kansas City.
They needed over time to win.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So it just if you're the Bucks, you felt like,
if you're a fan of the Buck, why you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So I think that's the reason why we haven't gotten
that crescendo, that high pitch. That why people are like
going crazy, like and they know how hard it is
to go through it to win three straight Super Bowl
because nobody's ever done it. So many things can happen.
There have been a lot of injury. This is a
lot of stuff going on, and despite the record, there's
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still has a sense of vulnerability.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
To me, I don't think I don't think you're crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I mean, they've been beata bull But what's weird is
they can't be beaten.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And that's the craziest scary part of it to me.
And I mentioned this before. We've had the conversation about them.
One of the things I've seen teedens do is they
start to outthink themselves because they're out thinking that Andy Reid,
Patrick Mahomes and the history that they come in with,
right you know, they come in with a couple of
Super Bowl in a row, and they just seem unbeatable.
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And I mean they literally are right now is undefeated.
So you see teams who should have beaten them start
out thinking themselves, start not you know, making the wrong decisions,
start trying to do something they're not. It even started
with the AFC Championship game, right you had the Ravens,
who should have beaten them had they just did what
they do. But all of a sudden, they start out thinking,
we're gonna try to we don't run the ball because
if we tried to just be who you are, do
what you do, and you have a chance to beat
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this team. But for whatever reasons, teams can't beat them.
And watching the game last night, I just laughed. I
was talking to rob gsaid, it's so comical how predictable
their games are this season, in that they just stick around.
Their offense isn't at that explosive right now? They can't
just make the players that they used to. But they
just hang around. You don't capitalize on a turnover. Maybe
you got a field, go that's it. Or maybe you
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got the turnover and you punted it, and they just
stay around and every one every eight minutes or so,
Patrick Mahomes ten minutes will make a play that you go, oh,
he's Patrick Mahomes last night did a couple of passes
to DeAndre Hopkins, or you go, Okay, that was ridiculous.
And then now you have a guy like a DeAndre
Hopkins who's making a couple of touchdown passes and you
start to sleep. Travis Kelsey had a big night for himself.
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They're starting to slowly get this thing rolling. Kareem Hunt,
he's recycled, but he's there, recycled and it's working a
little big on the end zone. And I'm like, the
league is letting them figure this thing out. The league
is letting them get DeAndre Hopkins, who like it's like,
I can't believe they got him. I remember saying that
in real time with you, And I'm like, they're slowly
starting to figure this thing out. We're gonna look up
and to your point, they're gonna be like twelve and oh,
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thirteen and one or two. I'm like, oh, they're about
to potentially win a third Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I still think they're beatable.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I still think they're vulnerable even with an undefeated record.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And I'm not saying, like I said, Patrick, that's the
best he played all year.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I'm in that game. I'm saying, what if this starts
to get this thing rolling? But what if?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
But what if this is a high water mark, which
is and oh you need it overtime.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It can't because he ain't been the Patrick No, no, no,
but I'm but he could level like this was the
best game, doesn't mean that this is every game is
gonna be like this.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And even then it took overtime at home to win
the game.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You get my point.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Get like like they haven't had the games where they're
just come out like like those days seem like so
long ago. Oh when they used to just wreck havoc
right offensively and you were out of the game by halftime.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was a they were just like piling up points.
We forget.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
It just feels like there's going to come a moment
or a situation or a circumstance where it's not gonna
work out for them, it keeps working. But I know,
and that's the thing. So remember remember this too.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Remember the Chiefs, rob G was it was two years ago,
uh robb G when they when they went on that
Super Bowl runer tw years ago, when they were down
ten every game, right, and in the postseason they were
down ten every game and you're like, here they go
get and they kept winning. So I think it's been
a little while before we got what we are used
to seeing when they're thirty two to thirty five points
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a game. Patrick Mahomes throwing no look passes like he's
magic Johnson Mahomes. I kind of think that's been a
little further behind. Even last year, he wasn't as spectacular.
He's still, you know, good, but not by his standard's
my by by what we were used to seeing a
hundred percent. So I'm stillbody who says it's the same
Patrick not being honest. I think he's I think he's
regressed to He still can do the other things that
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other quarterbacks can't and win. The timeliness of when he
does it that's kind of what makes him. He has
to pick his spots more now, not having a plethora
of offensive players and skilled players. But man, they weren't
just beating people down on the Championship runs down ten,
down ten, down ten, coming back down ten in the
Super Bowl. So they're kind of just this weird team
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that has been able to do it a multitude of ways,
blowing you out, coming from behind every game this year,
more of a hanging in every game, not the prettiest.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
But at the end, they just win.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And I think there's something to the mental aspect, the
belief that, oh, we're gonna get it done. And like
every last one of us in this studio, I don't know,
maybe not you, but if they're down four, one minute left,
a timeout, they have the ball, I'm putting my one
hundred dollars on They're gonna win. They just they just
know how to do what we've been there before. There's
something to having done this.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I'm not as confident if I if I had to say,
are they gonna win a third straight Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I say, no, I really do. I got the Lions
winning over them. But but I get I hear you.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I really think like they have been very fortunate and
we talk about it all the time. Remember they were
leading the game against the Ravens and the Ravens came
back late through a touchdown that would have tied the game,
but his foot was on the line like stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But we're we're just winning. No, no, I get it.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
But I'm just saying that's why it just doesn't feel like,
oh my god, there's no way you're gonna stop.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Why why don't you feel man? Then they should have
lost this when it should they had a chance. You
just can't beat them, Like, why don't you feel the opposite?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Because football is not a series, so you can lose
one game. It's all a chance to say, right. So
that's my point is that it's worked and it keeps working.
But what if you're in the AFC Championship game this year,
right like last year when they didn't score any points
in the second half, they still won the game. But
they just go any points in the second half, or
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there's an interception when when they lost to the to
the Bengals at home to get to the Super Bowl,
Mahomes threw a late interception which led to a field
goal and they lost.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Like he threw a pick.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
That's how they lost that that game, like some circumstance
or situation and his play could lead to something like that.
I'm not saying that it's impossible, but they don't feel
like even though they won two in a row, the
last year was another year they didn't feel like they
were that dominant. To me, they won when they needed
to when they got in the playoffs, but it was
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a rocky uneven year.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And I would be one on their fourth fifth championship.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I just feel like they can hear me out, they
can lose this when I'm like, right, this is the
fifth in a row.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Rod, I just I don't think that they're as dominant
as their record.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
How about is scary that they keep winning despite they
technically should lose or they got it, they should have lostinner.
There's no way they won this one and they keep winning.
That me, that's even scarier because I see their trajectory
going up of Patrick Mahomes is only going to play better,
Travis Kelsey is starting to get back to Travis kelce ish,
and now they got DeAndre Hopkins and the defense is
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absolutely great. That's scary. Now I'm like, what, we had
a chance to beat him? Now I'm worry we won't
have a chance.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
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Speaker 1 (12:32):
Joining us now as he does weekly, is The Man
from Eve from Salam, former NFL offensive lineman Fox Sports
Radio weekends, Ethral, what's up, bro?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
What's up? Brothers? How y'all doing? Man?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Now you're riding around with your voter stick around? What
you're doing?
Speaker 5 (12:48):
You already know? Man? Come on, man, it's is serious,
man like it's it's about to go down. Man. I
hope everybody out there voting. I hope you're y'all been
telling your listeners to go vote.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, started up.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
The SHO show about who you right, It's about just
going out there and having your save.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Man. A lot of people a lot of people die
without doubt this man. So that's that's the serious part
of it.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
No doubt. And you should never take it for granted.
I tell people all the time. Now, you know, if
somebody says something great to me, I was real quick. Uh,
he said, everything we do, FDA determines what food we
can have you got certain governments that determine the literal
clothes that we can wear, you know, what's legal to
sell with.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Why everybody's deserving what happens in your life.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Why won't you be participatory and you know, help determine
who's going to be elected.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Because people have been told that they don't matter, that
it doesn't matter, and you should just look at like
the Supreme Court justices that are appointed. A lot of
that stuff comes from not voting or voting.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yes it does, and you know it's always yes all that.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
People have no idea.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
If your school has funds to build the library.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Absolutely no doubt about it. Hey, let's start here. Todd Bowles,
they tied the game, should they go for two? Most
people were ragging on them because you know, like, I
think you got to go for two?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
There you got the momentum. Yeah you could have. You
could have knocked off the ranch.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
You could have gone gone for it and uh and
try to win the game.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
All right, So let me let me let me break
this down for you. The answer to that question is yes,
if they wouldn't have called the timeout on second down
from the one yard line. You hear what I'm saying
like they got all the way down to the one
yard I believe they got a first down, somebody was
first and goal from the one. They got all the
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way down to the one, the one yard line with
about thirty four seconds left on the clock, and they
decided that they would call a timeout. Now that's where
they went wrong, because what you do is you just
get up on the ball. It's on the one yard
line and you snap the ball with about I don't
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know twenty or so second left. You either score there
or you miss it. You wait, you take the time
out right after that, then you run another play, you score,
and then you can go for two. But you leave
about nine seconds on the clock. Because they took that
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time out and they scored the next play, they left
twenty seven seconds on the clock. You can't go for
two there against Patrick Mahomes at home with three timeouts
and twenty seven seconds. We saw what he did with
thirteen seconds and two timeouts.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, they misplayed that. That was remarkable. That was the worst.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Instead of scrib kicking that or whatever they thin do
to kick off to actually.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Pick it to them. Right, But you understand where I'm going.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Right, don't any time with timeouts.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
You can't do it because even the fact that you
tied the score up, you forced them to punt on
that fourth and one with about twelve segs are nine
seconds left in the game. If they're down by one,
they're going for everything and all they need to do
is beat you with the field goal. So you can't
You had to play. He did it exactly right. He
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got himself to overtime and he you know, they the
flip of the coin, right, You had an opportunity to
stop him. It didn't work, Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes, and
so you gave yourself an opportunity to win the coin
talk and then drive down the field to win it
in overtime. I think he played it perfectly. The problem
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I have is them calling that time out. They shouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Done that right instead of stopping the clock.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Hey from Salam joining us. I want to go back
to if you if you had a chance to listen
and not the conversation we were having about Jayden and Daniels,
and I'll make it a little bit more broader. There's
reports Adam Schefter saying that players will say hey to
their agents, get me there wan to play with him.
Does that happen when you guys see the new hot
young person, say Patrick Mahomes, maybe somebody in your air
maut or maybe it was Michael Vick. People want to
whoever is what they say, Man, I want to play
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with him because I might have a chance to get
to postseason year after year after year.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Is that more common than people.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
May think, Well, yeah, it's it's now. It is because
you got to remember there. They didn't used to be
real big moves at the NFL trade deadline. That's more
of an NBA type of thing where guys are moving,
big name stars and all that are moving all over
the place during the NBA. Uh uh trade deadline frenzy.
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It never really was the NFL until recently. Like you know,
high quality, high case in point DeAndre Hopkins right, Like,
how does he land in Kansas City? Will we see
what happens there? The Darius uh Like It's like all
of it was a lot of huge names, especially with
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wide receivers this year now getting now. So now you
are on the phone with your agent like, yo, look
I'm not happy here they go trade me. We saw
it happen with Devontae Adams. I'm i want to go
with Aaron Rodgers right, and teams are are you know,
adhering to Be's requests? Uh so, it's happening more so
now than ever. But to your to your question about
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Daydon Daniels, there will be a line of receivers, our
offensive lineman, our offensive personnel that would love to go
join this young man and his journey because it seems
like it's gonna be a hell of a journey, just
like in Houston. Like you see what Houston did this
off season and re upped with uh with Stevan DA's
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I know he hurt himself, but he was having a
heck of a season for them. The running back Joe Mixon,
Joe Mixon right, like all of that that man like
you don't think you want to go be a part
of that? Yeah, I want to be traded, but I
want to go there. Yea, I'm trying to go there.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Let me ask you who's your right now midway point
the season, who's your MVP?
Speaker 5 (19:07):
It would have to probably Lamar Jared Golf. M hm,
those will be my two, Lamar Jared. What Jared Golf
is doing is amazing. It's completion percentage, the team, the
winning the amount of points that they've been scoring. I mean,
people are still waiting for him to just be the
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Jared Golf they think he is. But you know, you
got to realize when even when he was with the Rams,
he went to the Super Bowl, right like, So he's
always had those qualities, uh, in terms of being a
dynamic quarterback. And then on the flip side of that
with with Lamar Jackson, I mean, it's nothing he can't do.
And just having Derrick Henry there is just even and
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Derrick Hendy that'd be one A, one B and and
Derreck Hendon would be two A in terms of m
v P.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's what we are. Those are the three that have
had We were talking about it yesterday. Get you out
of here this one real quick. Uh, what do you
make of the Philadelphia Eagles? Do you buy them? They're
sitting here six and two. We kind of feel like
the worst six and two team you've ever seen? Chaos,
You don't know if the coach are gonna get fired,
hire you on the hot seat some of the sixty Yeah,
but what do you make of just what's.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Going on there?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Yeah, Siriani to me, isn't the right guy isn't the
right fit. It's just some of the situations that some like.
And I know they were heard that both of their
receivers were heard, but it just doesn't seem like they're
button up. And I kind of liken it to what
the Dallas Cowboys were last year. Yeah, they're beating up
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on a lot of teams that they should beat up on.
But when the rubber hits the road, I don't trust
him or them to be one of those top teams
in the NFC. So yeah, I don't trust them, and
I don't trust him as a coach.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
All right. He is from Salam. We appreciate you so much. Brother.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
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Speaker 5 (20:56):
Thank you brother, absolutely, Thank y'all. Y'all be safe.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
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Speaker 4 (21:11):
Speaking of running a monk, yeah, I think the Dodgers
are getting going off base and going crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
They won the World Series. They beat the Yankees in
five games. They have a lot of reasons to be excited.
This team has had a lot of failure, you know,
like the Dodgers, their history, like anybody knows. Anybody know
what the nickname of the Brooklyn Dodgers was. Anybody know
the Brooklyn Dodgers. You know what it was, Brooklyn Dodgers,
well known dim bums, dem bombs because they always lost
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to the Yankees or in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
No really, that was their nickname.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
And then the paper you google it, dim Bombs were
the Brooklyn Dodgers because they dim Bums lost again? Em
bumb Is that why they came to LA Because they
wanted to build a new Dodger Stadium in Queens.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
That was part of it.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
But you get My point is that they've had a
history of losing, so they win this World Sales. Did
you decide the Brooklyn Dodgers then bums with the current
twenty twenty four champs, Yeah, No, I'm talking about the
history of the organization life winning eleven of twelve division
titles and only winning one up until this year.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That make it two.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
And my point is there have been more years where
last year they lost to the Arizona Diamondbacks, never led
in that series. The year before that they lost to
the Padres, and then in twenty nineteen they were up
to nothing to the Nationals. They lost the next three
games and got lost that series.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
That was a year people thought they were gonna go.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I'm just giving you like, they've had a lot of
you know, success, but then they always wind up losing
in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
So my point is.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That they've won this World Series and now they're feeling themselves,
like ripping the Yankees and ripping their players and saying
like calling them names and all this. And Joe Kelly,
who I don't remember doing anything in the World Series
that I'm missing, well, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I don't remember saying.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
He's had some big moments for this, but he's like
the biggest talker and Rob g he was on a podcast, right,
and uh, here's Joe Kelly.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
The picture Joe Kelly for the Dodgers ripping the Yankees.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
We're saying every single game, just let them throw the
ball to the intil they can't make a play. I mean,
you saw so he got an extra base going a
third on sloppy glabor play.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
It's it's well known. We all knew I mean, we're
the Dodgers. We know every little detail. They were a
fun series.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I mean, they almost almost snagged a couple of wins,
you know what I mean. But I mean, if if
it was like if it was like the NCAA, like basketball, baseball, hockey,
or football, I mean, like it's it was just a
mismatch from the get go, like we had to playoff
reranking like they might be ranked eighth or ninth best
playoff team, you know what I mean. Like you're putting
the Positors ahead of them, You're putting the Phillies ahead
of them, You're putting the Mets ahead of them, You're
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putting the Braves ahead of them, and the Braves just
got unlucky.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Because they had to play that doubleheader you're putting.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
I mean, the Guardians played like crap, but the Guardians
played better, better, the better baseball around. Like there's it
was just a complete mismatch. And it's kind of the
same feeling from twenty eighteen when we had to go
play the Dodgers, Like the Red Sox were just the
way better team. So all we knew is that we
just had to play regular Dodger baseball.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
We didn't to play out of our butts.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
We didn't have to do anything crazy, and we're gonna
win the World Series. It's facts, like just look at
the team.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Look at the talent.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
RE ranked the teams and they're ranked eighth and they
played against the number one seed. So but like I said,
everyone knew we had we We go through numerous scouting.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Reports, videos like hey, look at this is slot.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
We play like.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I mean, we pay attention to every single detail. You know,
we have a lot of big superstars in our clubhouse,
but the superstars also care.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
And aren't lazy and play hard.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
So that's the difference in the biggest separator.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Shots fired.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
You know what I love about it because this is
what we want in our sports mind. You we kept
calling this a rivalry, but they hadn't played each other
since nineteen eighty one. So this is how rivalries are brewed, right,
This is how real like not rivalries because it happened
in nineteen ten. No rivalry right now because they ain't
played each other in the World Series since nineteen eighty one.
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So now if it were to happen again next year
or maybe you know, it takes another year or two,
but it starts to brew up.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
This is how it happens. So I love it.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Now, going back to your point about them struggling a
little bit, this is why they are talking big smack
and having fun and talking about fat Joe because people
have downed them for winning.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
People have downed them for getting close.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
People have downed them for making it to the World
Series a couple of times before they want it and losing.
And we all know what happened with the Trashtros, I
mean the Astros. So I think they're flexing their muscles
now like they've always been very calm and just and
while we tried and we play hard, and uh, we'll
have to go out there and play harder and figure
out things in the offseason. They normally are that. I
think they finally had enough of that. And I also
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think that's why they were gonna win. I told Robb g.
I told you that from the beginning of the postseason
they I like this approach.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Talk a little smack, get a little crazy, let him
hang a little bit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You don't have to always be the most and professional,
methodical and very intentional in this and this.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Go out there and have some fun, talk to smack.
You need some Joe Kelly's on your team, some taioskar
her Nandezilion team even show Hevy, you know, flexes out
there a little bit.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I like this version of the Dodgers. I don't like
when they get to business like and you know in there,
even in their losses or wins, we just got to
stay even Keel, show some emotion.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
People been talking smack about you for years, talking about
all your wins are good enough.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Going to the World Series ain't good enough. Winning in
twenty twenty wasn't good enough. It didn't count because of
this man.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I'm talking big ish and I like it, and I
hope the Yankees hurt him, want it and get mad.
I won.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Did Joe Kelly do in the World Series? Can you
give me a staf hold on, hold on, let's hear it.
How about nothing? He didn't even play, didn't But Joe
Kelly to say that when he didn't even contribute, is
that that's the part that is so lame that he's
talking about.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
He didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
They didn't even need him, Joe Kelly to win the
World Series and he wasn't a part of it. I
know he was on the team, Okay, Like that's the
last guy who should be throwing arrows at people. And
the other part is all of this talk about the
Dodgers was warranted because there's no way the Diamondbacks should
have beat them last year, where they didn't even never
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led in this series. It just shouldn't have happened. Had
way too much talent the year before they beat up.
I think they beat the Padres like seventeen out of
twenty one, and then they lost the playoff series to them. Again,
they totally dominated during the regular season, So those things
were all warranted, and it's just win with some grace,
win with some grace. Cause if I didn't hear anything,
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like if Joe Kelly was really that dude.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
He would have said all of this before the World Series.
Well he's the one guy that done some smack all
year round.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
But before the World if I heard this stuff, they're lazy.
This is going to be a whitewash. Throw stars over
there and there, this and that. Now you got my attention.
If you do that before and then it comes to fruition.
Anybody can be after the fact talking smack after it's
all over. I don't respect that I think it's lame.
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Joe Kelly, to his credit and Rob g I mean,
you guys know this. They got t shirts made of
him making the face, you know, doing all this, and
he's always into something time. He's one of the few
players on the team who does that, who participates in
the smack talking and talking trash, and you know, he's
there for all the smoke. And I like that because
you cannot have a team without a few guys like that.
(28:50):
Somebody got to get your own teammates here. Hey, man,
come on, you know who you are. We better than
them boys suck.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
You need that on the team as much as you
need some even kill guys and some super professionals. You
need a couple of guys who were ready to go
out there and get into a brawl and get out
there and let him hang a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And I like that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
So for me, I don't mind a little track star
because now the Yankees like what a word? That's what
he said, okay, and I do. And also it turns
me to a question. You you'd watch you watch a
little you know more than me. You maybe keep up
with the Yankees more. Were they sloppy throughout the season.
I mean asked a legitimate question like were they more
known to be not as Aaron Judge.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Aaron Judge made his first errand ever so, but I question, yeah, yeah,
I mean there were misgues or whatever, but they also
played and made some plays and stuff. Sure it was
magnified because they all came in one inning like the
Aaron Judge thing is like totally out of left hand
that inning, which is crazy man at the documentary on
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that inning.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Right, it's coming for sure. But let me let me
give you I just wanted to give you.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Anybody, no, no, no about them Bums?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Dem Bums was an informal nickname for the Brooklyn Dodgers
baseball team from nineteen thirty seven to nineteen fifty seven.
The nickname came from a cartoon by a sports cartoonist,
Willard Mullin that depicted circus clown as a hobo named
Weary Willie, and the cartoon response to a cab driver's
comment to Mullins about how the Dodgers were doing, and
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he said, dim bums are bombs, and that was because
they always wound up losing his.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Postseason to get well, they ain't them bums, no more.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
No, no but this, but the idea and the uh,
the idea of trashing the Yankees after the fact by
Joe Cole.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I just think it's tasteless.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You won the World Series, you weren't even a big
part of it, like like that. If this was coming
from Mookie Bats or somebody, I could respect it a
little bit more, you know what I mean, because at
least they did something in it. But for Joe Kelly
not to do anything, it's crazy. And I will say this,
this is what happens. We talk about it when you
get these podcasts, like you're gonna get guys on because
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you can't always get a Mookie or Show Hey or
Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Right, so you get the other guys. You get a Kyk,
you get a Joe Kelly, you might get a you know,
a Blake Tranning trying who wouldn't say anything. But you
just get these other guys on the team, and then
they say something that because they're talking to you, they
they're feeling themselves and had a couple we got the
mics going, and then it gets out there, right, it
starts to spread, and now you got Rob Parker and
Kevin Washington having a conversation about it as well. But yeah,
(31:28):
I just I don't mind it a little bit. I
like a little trash talking in my sports
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Has there ever been a team that was trying to
go for something we hadn't seen ever? Three championships in
a row, three Super Bowl titles in a row, the
defending world champs that are eight tozer that nobody talks
about or is really overly hyping, because that's what's happening
(00:49):
with the Kansas City Chiefs and watching them yesterday, they
did exactly what I told you. And I was sitting
here watching the game and towards the end of our show,
I was watching the Bucks and I think they got
a turn over and they just couldn't score on it,
and it was just the game was toughn too close.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I said, this is how you lose.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
To the Chiefs. This is literally becoming scripted. You know
exactly what they're gonna do for the first time in
Patrick Mahomes's career the last year, year and a half
or season and a half. He can make a mistake,
throw a turnover, fumble the ball, Travis Kelsey fumbles a
couple of times, lose this one yesterday, and the defense
can look at that offense, at Patrick Mahomes and say,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We got you for once. We got you. Don't even
worry about it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Patrick Mahomes now with the DeAndre Hopkins, who I knew
was gonna be a fit as far as having somebody
with steady hands, somebody who can be dependable, somebody can
be reliable and make big plays when you need them.
They just finally make the right play or two and
win the game. And you look up up, it's exactly
what I thought it'd be twenty four to twenty and
it'd be in like twenty six to twenty. They're just
(01:49):
marching and moving along exactly where you kind of thought
they'd be methodically, And all of a sudden, they're sitting
here and they know and it's like nobody's having a
conversation about the team that is having a chance to
go for three peat, three peat, Brandy champs, and we
don't talk about them. And I was just watching last
night laughing like this is probably what they want. We
(02:10):
fly under the radar somehow, if you will, and radar ish.
I mean, obviously there's a chance. So we talk about
them a bit, but not as much as we do
either teams who are floundering and the Cowboys and the Jets,
or this team doesn't look good, or maybe the Lions
or the Ravens or hey, don't forget about those Eagles
making a comeback and the Kansas City Chiefs to sit
here right on schedule to be doing what the Patriots did,
go undefeated, and obviously they want to do what they
(02:32):
did and didn't do and win a Super Bowl. But
I'm just like, man, there ain't no and we don't
even talk about them. And I'm not saying this or
you and I, but like we as a whole people
aren't really talking about this team has a chance to
do his make history and go three and three straight
Super Bowl titles.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, I'm not surprised because you talked about it earlier
about they have the eight to no record hasn't been
that impressive, and like like That's that's the reason why
if I remember correctly, the Patriots, they were blowing people
away exactly. It was just they were putting on a show.
(03:13):
And and you haven't seen this all of I think
I think all of the Chiefs wins this year have
been less by six six and under or something like that,
like really really all close games, games that could have
gone a couple that could have easily gone other ways.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And only is this the Chiefs right here? Oh this
is the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Okay, So only four of their wins were less than
two scores out right, and and and that's what the
difference is. So they were riding a wave and you
felt like, oh my god, you're watching this team, whereas
really that this was Patrick Mahomes's best night eight weeks
in right games in like there were a lot of
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games where he had two picks and two picks and
no touchdowns or one touchdown and two picks, and they
needed something to happen for them to win. And I
think that's why people aren't there yet. Now if you
get into it and it's fifteen or thirteen or twe
you know, and they're playing better like they played in
the second half in the second half, especially because the
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first half was not good, right, We're like, this is bad,
but the second half was really good. And I think
that was the one that if they were to continue
and even now now, let's just they still won, right
by a touchdown? Right, Okay, did they blow out Tampa Bay?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
No they did not. The game was in Kansas City.
They needed over time to win.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So it just if you're the Bucks, you felt like,
if you're a fan of the Buck, why you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So I think that's the reason why we haven't gotten
that crescendo, that high pitch. That why people are like
going crazy, like and they know how hard it is
to go through it to win three straight Super Bowl
because nobody's ever done it. So many things can happen.
There have been a lot of injury. This is a
lot of stuff going on, and despite the record, there's
(05:18):
still has a sense of vulnerability.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
To me, I don't think I don't think you're crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I mean, they've been beata bull But what's weird is
they can't be beaten.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And that's the craziest scary part of it to me.
And I mentioned this before. We've had the conversation about them.
One of the things I've seen teedens do is they
start to outthink themselves because they're out thinking that Andy Reid,
Patrick Mahomes and the history that they come in with,
right you know, they come in with a couple of
Super Bowl in a row, and they just seem unbeatable.
(05:50):
And I mean they literally are right now is undefeated.
So you see teams who should have beaten them start
out thinking themselves, start not you know, making the wrong decisions,
start trying to do something they're not. It even started
with the AFC Championship game, right you had the Ravens,
who should have beaten them had they just did what
they do. But all of a sudden, they start out thinking,
we're gonna try to we don't run the ball because
if we tried to just be who you are, do
what you do, and you have a chance to beat
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this team. But for whatever reasons, teams can't beat them.
And watching the game last night, I just laughed. I
was talking to rob gsaid, it's so comical how predictable
their games are this season, in that they just stick around.
Their offense isn't at that explosive right now? They can't
just make the players that they used to. But they
just hang around. You don't capitalize on a turnover. Maybe
you got a field, go that's it. Or maybe you
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got the turnover and you punted it, and they just
stay around and every one every eight minutes or so,
Patrick Mahomes ten minutes will make a play that you go, oh,
he's Patrick Mahomes last night did a couple of passes
to DeAndre Hopkins, or you go, Okay, that was ridiculous.
And then now you have a guy like a DeAndre
Hopkins who's making a couple of touchdown passes and you
start to sleep. Travis Kelsey had a big night for himself.
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They're starting to slowly get this thing rolling. Kareem Hunt,
he's recycled, but he's there, recycled and it's working a
little big on the end zone. And I'm like, the
league is letting them figure this thing out. The league
is letting them get DeAndre Hopkins, who like it's like,
I can't believe they got him. I remember saying that
in real time with you, And I'm like, they're slowly
starting to figure this thing out. We're gonna look up
and to your point, they're gonna be like twelve and oh,
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thirteen and one or two. I'm like, oh, they're about
to potentially win a third Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I still think they're beatable.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I still think they're vulnerable even with an undefeated record.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And I'm not saying, like I said, Patrick, that's the
best he played all year.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I'm in that game. I'm saying, what if this starts
to get this thing rolling? But what if?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
But what if this is a high water mark, which
is and oh you need it overtime.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It can't because he ain't been the Patrick No, no, no,
but I'm but he could level like this was the
best game, doesn't mean that this is every game is
gonna be like this.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And even then it took overtime at home to win
the game.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You get my point.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Get like like they haven't had the games where they're
just come out like like those days seem like so
long ago. Oh when they used to just wreck havoc
right offensively and you were out of the game by halftime.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was a they were just like piling up points.
We forget.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
It just feels like there's going to come a moment
or a situation or a circumstance where it's not gonna
work out for them, it keeps working. But I know,
and that's the thing. So remember remember this too.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Remember the Chiefs, rob G was it was two years ago,
uh robb G when they when they went on that
Super Bowl runer tw years ago, when they were down
ten every game, right, and in the postseason they were
down ten every game and you're like, here they go
get and they kept winning. So I think it's been
a little while before we got what we are used
to seeing when they're thirty two to thirty five points
(08:43):
a game. Patrick Mahomes throwing no look passes like he's
magic Johnson Mahomes. I kind of think that's been a
little further behind. Even last year, he wasn't as spectacular.
He's still, you know, good, but not by his standard's
my by by what we were used to seeing a
hundred percent. So I'm stillbody who says it's the same
Patrick not being honest. I think he's I think he's
regressed to He still can do the other things that
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other quarterbacks can't and win. The timeliness of when he
does it that's kind of what makes him. He has
to pick his spots more now, not having a plethora
of offensive players and skilled players. But man, they weren't
just beating people down on the Championship runs down ten,
down ten, down ten, coming back down ten in the
Super Bowl. So they're kind of just this weird team
(09:25):
that has been able to do it a multitude of ways,
blowing you out, coming from behind every game this year,
more of a hanging in every game, not the prettiest.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
But at the end, they just win.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And I think there's something to the mental aspect, the
belief that, oh, we're gonna get it done. And like
every last one of us in this studio, I don't know,
maybe not you, but if they're down four, one minute left,
a timeout, they have the ball, I'm putting my one
hundred dollars on They're gonna win. They just they just
know how to do what we've been there before. There's
something to having done this.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I'm not as confident if I if I had to say,
are they gonna win a third straight Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I say, no, I really do. I got the Lions
winning over them. But but I get I hear you.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I really think like they have been very fortunate and
we talk about it all the time. Remember they were
leading the game against the Ravens and the Ravens came
back late through a touchdown that would have tied the game,
but his foot was on the line like stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But we're we're just winning. No, no, I get it.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
But I'm just saying that's why it just doesn't feel like,
oh my god, there's no way you're gonna stop.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Why why don't you feel man? Then they should have
lost this when it should they had a chance. You
just can't beat them, Like, why don't you feel the opposite?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Because football is not a series, so you can lose
one game. It's all a chance to say, right. So
that's my point is that it's worked and it keeps working.
But what if you're in the AFC Championship game this year,
right like last year when they didn't score any points
in the second half, they still won the game. But
they just go any points in the second half, or
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there's an interception when when they lost to the to
the Bengals at home to get to the Super Bowl,
Mahomes threw a late interception which led to a field
goal and they lost.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Like he threw a pick.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
That's how they lost that that game, like some circumstance
or situation and his play could lead to something like that.
I'm not saying that it's impossible, but they don't feel
like even though they won two in a row, the
last year was another year they didn't feel like they
were that dominant. To me, they won when they needed
to when they got in the playoffs, but it was
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a rocky uneven year.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And I would be one on their fourth fifth championship.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I just feel like they can hear me out, they
can lose this when I'm like, right, this is the
fifth in a row.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Rod, I just I don't think that they're as dominant
as their record.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
How about is scary that they keep winning despite they
technically should lose or they got it, they should have lostinner.
There's no way they won this one and they keep winning.
That me, that's even scarier because I see their trajectory
going up of Patrick Mahomes is only going to play better,
Travis Kelsey is starting to get back to Travis kelce ish,
and now they got DeAndre Hopkins and the defense is
(12:13):
absolutely great. That's scary. Now I'm like, what, we had
a chance to beat him? Now I'm worry we won't
have a chance.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
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Speaker 1 (12:32):
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Speaker 3 (12:42):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
What's up? Brothers? How y'all doing? Man?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Now you're riding around with your voter stick around? What
you're doing?
Speaker 5 (12:48):
You already know? Man? Come on, man, it's is serious,
man like it's it's about to go down. Man. I
hope everybody out there voting. I hope you're y'all been
telling your listeners to go vote.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, started up.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
The SHO show about who you right, It's about just
going out there and having your save.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Man. A lot of people a lot of people die
without doubt this man. So that's that's the serious part
of it.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
No doubt. And you should never take it for granted.
I tell people all the time. Now, you know, if
somebody says something great to me, I was real quick. Uh,
he said, everything we do, FDA determines what food we
can have you got certain governments that determine the literal
clothes that we can wear, you know, what's legal to
sell with.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Why everybody's deserving what happens in your life.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Why won't you be participatory and you know, help determine
who's going to be elected.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Because people have been told that they don't matter, that
it doesn't matter, and you should just look at like
the Supreme Court justices that are appointed. A lot of
that stuff comes from not voting or voting.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yes it does, and you know it's always yes all that.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
People have no idea.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
If your school has funds to build the library.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Absolutely no doubt about it. Hey, let's start here. Todd Bowles,
they tied the game, should they go for two? Most
people were ragging on them because you know, like, I
think you got to go for two?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
There you got the momentum. Yeah you could have. You
could have knocked off the ranch.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
You could have gone gone for it and uh and
try to win the game.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
All right, So let me let me let me break
this down for you. The answer to that question is yes,
if they wouldn't have called the timeout on second down
from the one yard line. You hear what I'm saying
like they got all the way down to the one
yard I believe they got a first down, somebody was
first and goal from the one. They got all the
(14:38):
way down to the one, the one yard line with
about thirty four seconds left on the clock, and they
decided that they would call a timeout. Now that's where
they went wrong, because what you do is you just
get up on the ball. It's on the one yard
line and you snap the ball with about I don't
(14:59):
know twenty or so second left. You either score there
or you miss it. You wait, you take the time
out right after that, then you run another play, you score,
and then you can go for two. But you leave
about nine seconds on the clock. Because they took that
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time out and they scored the next play, they left
twenty seven seconds on the clock. You can't go for
two there against Patrick Mahomes at home with three timeouts
and twenty seven seconds. We saw what he did with
thirteen seconds and two timeouts.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, they misplayed that. That was remarkable. That was the worst.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Instead of scrib kicking that or whatever they thin do
to kick off to actually.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Pick it to them. Right, But you understand where I'm going.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Right, don't any time with timeouts.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
You can't do it because even the fact that you
tied the score up, you forced them to punt on
that fourth and one with about twelve segs are nine
seconds left in the game. If they're down by one,
they're going for everything and all they need to do
is beat you with the field goal. So you can't
You had to play. He did it exactly right. He
(16:14):
got himself to overtime and he you know, they the
flip of the coin, right, You had an opportunity to
stop him. It didn't work, Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes, and
so you gave yourself an opportunity to win the coin
talk and then drive down the field to win it
in overtime. I think he played it perfectly. The problem
(16:35):
I have is them calling that time out. They shouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Done that right instead of stopping the clock.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Hey from Salam joining us. I want to go back
to if you if you had a chance to listen
and not the conversation we were having about Jayden and Daniels,
and I'll make it a little bit more broader. There's
reports Adam Schefter saying that players will say hey to
their agents, get me there wan to play with him.
Does that happen when you guys see the new hot
young person, say Patrick Mahomes, maybe somebody in your air
maut or maybe it was Michael Vick. People want to
whoever is what they say, Man, I want to play
(17:01):
with him because I might have a chance to get
to postseason year after year after year.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Is that more common than people.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
May think, Well, yeah, it's it's now. It is because
you got to remember there. They didn't used to be
real big moves at the NFL trade deadline. That's more
of an NBA type of thing where guys are moving,
big name stars and all that are moving all over
the place during the NBA. Uh uh trade deadline frenzy.
(17:31):
It never really was the NFL until recently. Like you know,
high quality, high case in point DeAndre Hopkins right, Like,
how does he land in Kansas City? Will we see
what happens there? The Darius uh Like It's like all
of it was a lot of huge names, especially with
(17:52):
wide receivers this year now getting now. So now you
are on the phone with your agent like, yo, look
I'm not happy here they go trade me. We saw
it happen with Devontae Adams. I'm i want to go
with Aaron Rodgers right, and teams are are you know,
adhering to Be's requests? Uh so, it's happening more so
now than ever. But to your to your question about
(18:15):
Daydon Daniels, there will be a line of receivers, our
offensive lineman, our offensive personnel that would love to go
join this young man and his journey because it seems
like it's gonna be a hell of a journey, just
like in Houston. Like you see what Houston did this
off season and re upped with uh with Stevan DA's
(18:37):
I know he hurt himself, but he was having a
heck of a season for them. The running back Joe Mixon,
Joe Mixon right, like all of that that man like
you don't think you want to go be a part
of that? Yeah, I want to be traded, but I
want to go there. Yea, I'm trying to go there.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Let me ask you who's your right now midway point
the season, who's your MVP?
Speaker 5 (19:07):
It would have to probably Lamar Jared Golf. M hm,
those will be my two, Lamar Jared. What Jared Golf
is doing is amazing. It's completion percentage, the team, the
winning the amount of points that they've been scoring. I mean,
people are still waiting for him to just be the
(19:28):
Jared Golf they think he is. But you know, you
got to realize when even when he was with the Rams,
he went to the Super Bowl, right like, So he's
always had those qualities, uh, in terms of being a
dynamic quarterback. And then on the flip side of that
with with Lamar Jackson, I mean, it's nothing he can't do.
And just having Derrick Henry there is just even and
(19:49):
Derrick Hendy that'd be one A, one B and and
Derreck Hendon would be two A in terms of m
v P.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's what we are. Those are the three that have
had We were talking about it yesterday. Get you out
of here this one real quick. Uh, what do you
make of the Philadelphia Eagles? Do you buy them? They're
sitting here six and two. We kind of feel like
the worst six and two team you've ever seen? Chaos,
You don't know if the coach are gonna get fired,
hire you on the hot seat some of the sixty Yeah,
but what do you make of just what's.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Going on there?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Yeah, Siriani to me, isn't the right guy isn't the
right fit. It's just some of the situations that some like.
And I know they were heard that both of their
receivers were heard, but it just doesn't seem like they're
button up. And I kind of liken it to what
the Dallas Cowboys were last year. Yeah, they're beating up
(20:36):
on a lot of teams that they should beat up on.
But when the rubber hits the road, I don't trust
him or them to be one of those top teams
in the NFC. So yeah, I don't trust them, and
I don't trust him as a coach.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
All right. He is from Salam. We appreciate you so much. Brother.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Make sure you check them out on the weekends Salam
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Speaker 5 (20:56):
Thank you brother, absolutely, Thank y'all. Y'all be safe.
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Speaker 4 (21:11):
Speaking of running a monk, yeah, I think the Dodgers
are getting going off base and going crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
They won the World Series. They beat the Yankees in
five games. They have a lot of reasons to be excited.
This team has had a lot of failure, you know,
like the Dodgers, their history, like anybody knows. Anybody know
what the nickname of the Brooklyn Dodgers was. Anybody know
the Brooklyn Dodgers. You know what it was, Brooklyn Dodgers,
well known dim bums, dem bombs because they always lost
(21:46):
to the Yankees or in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
No really, that was their nickname.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
And then the paper you google it, dim Bombs were
the Brooklyn Dodgers because they dim Bums lost again? Em
bumb Is that why they came to LA Because they
wanted to build a new Dodger Stadium in Queens.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
That was part of it.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
But you get My point is that they've had a
history of losing, so they win this World Sales. Did
you decide the Brooklyn Dodgers then bums with the current
twenty twenty four champs, Yeah, No, I'm talking about the
history of the organization life winning eleven of twelve division
titles and only winning one up until this year.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That make it two.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
And my point is there have been more years where
last year they lost to the Arizona Diamondbacks, never led
in that series. The year before that they lost to
the Padres, and then in twenty nineteen they were up
to nothing to the Nationals. They lost the next three
games and got lost that series.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
That was a year people thought they were gonna go.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I'm just giving you like, they've had a lot of
you know, success, but then they always wind up losing
in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
So my point is.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That they've won this World Series and now they're feeling themselves,
like ripping the Yankees and ripping their players and saying
like calling them names and all this. And Joe Kelly,
who I don't remember doing anything in the World Series
that I'm missing, well, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I don't remember saying.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
He's had some big moments for this, but he's like
the biggest talker and Rob g he was on a podcast, right,
and uh, here's Joe Kelly.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
The picture Joe Kelly for the Dodgers ripping the Yankees.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
We're saying every single game, just let them throw the
ball to the intil they can't make a play. I mean,
you saw so he got an extra base going a
third on sloppy glabor play.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
It's it's well known. We all knew I mean, we're
the Dodgers. We know every little detail. They were a
fun series.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I mean, they almost almost snagged a couple of wins,
you know what I mean. But I mean, if if
it was like if it was like the NCAA, like basketball, baseball, hockey,
or football, I mean, like it's it was just a
mismatch from the get go, like we had to playoff
reranking like they might be ranked eighth or ninth best
playoff team, you know what I mean. Like you're putting
the Positors ahead of them, You're putting the Phillies ahead
of them, You're putting the Mets ahead of them, You're
(24:05):
putting the Braves ahead of them, and the Braves just
got unlucky.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Because they had to play that doubleheader you're putting.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
I mean, the Guardians played like crap, but the Guardians
played better, better, the better baseball around. Like there's it
was just a complete mismatch. And it's kind of the
same feeling from twenty eighteen when we had to go
play the Dodgers, Like the Red Sox were just the
way better team. So all we knew is that we
just had to play regular Dodger baseball.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
We didn't to play out of our butts.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
We didn't have to do anything crazy, and we're gonna
win the World Series. It's facts, like just look at
the team.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Look at the talent.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
RE ranked the teams and they're ranked eighth and they
played against the number one seed. So but like I said,
everyone knew we had we We go through numerous scouting.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Reports, videos like hey, look at this is slot.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
We play like.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I mean, we pay attention to every single detail. You know,
we have a lot of big superstars in our clubhouse,
but the superstars also care.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
And aren't lazy and play hard.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
So that's the difference in the biggest separator.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Shots fired.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
You know what I love about it because this is
what we want in our sports mind. You we kept
calling this a rivalry, but they hadn't played each other
since nineteen eighty one. So this is how rivalries are brewed, right,
This is how real like not rivalries because it happened
in nineteen ten. No rivalry right now because they ain't
played each other in the World Series since nineteen eighty one.
(25:24):
So now if it were to happen again next year
or maybe you know, it takes another year or two,
but it starts to brew up.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
This is how it happens. So I love it.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Now, going back to your point about them struggling a
little bit, this is why they are talking big smack
and having fun and talking about fat Joe because people
have downed them for winning.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
People have downed them for getting close.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
People have downed them for making it to the World
Series a couple of times before they want it and losing.
And we all know what happened with the Trashtros, I
mean the Astros. So I think they're flexing their muscles
now like they've always been very calm and just and
while we tried and we play hard, and uh, we'll
have to go out there and play harder and figure
out things in the offseason. They normally are that. I
think they finally had enough of that. And I also
(26:07):
think that's why they were gonna win. I told Robb g.
I told you that from the beginning of the postseason
they I like this approach.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Talk a little smack, get a little crazy, let him
hang a little bit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You don't have to always be the most and professional,
methodical and very intentional in this and this.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Go out there and have some fun, talk to smack.
You need some Joe Kelly's on your team, some taioskar
her Nandezilion team even show Hevy, you know, flexes out
there a little bit.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I like this version of the Dodgers. I don't like
when they get to business like and you know in there,
even in their losses or wins, we just got to
stay even Keel, show some emotion.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
People been talking smack about you for years, talking about
all your wins are good enough.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Going to the World Series ain't good enough. Winning in
twenty twenty wasn't good enough. It didn't count because of
this man.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I'm talking big ish and I like it, and I
hope the Yankees hurt him, want it and get mad.
I won.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Did Joe Kelly do in the World Series? Can you
give me a staf hold on, hold on, let's hear it.
How about nothing? He didn't even play, didn't But Joe
Kelly to say that when he didn't even contribute, is
that that's the part that is so lame that he's
talking about.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
He didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
They didn't even need him, Joe Kelly to win the
World Series and he wasn't a part of it. I
know he was on the team, Okay, Like that's the
last guy who should be throwing arrows at people. And
the other part is all of this talk about the
Dodgers was warranted because there's no way the Diamondbacks should
have beat them last year, where they didn't even never
(27:39):
led in this series. It just shouldn't have happened. Had
way too much talent the year before they beat up.
I think they beat the Padres like seventeen out of
twenty one, and then they lost the playoff series to them. Again,
they totally dominated during the regular season, So those things
were all warranted, and it's just win with some grace,
win with some grace. Cause if I didn't hear anything,
(28:01):
like if Joe Kelly was really that dude.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
He would have said all of this before the World Series.
Well he's the one guy that done some smack all
year round.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
But before the World if I heard this stuff, they're lazy.
This is going to be a whitewash. Throw stars over
there and there, this and that. Now you got my attention.
If you do that before and then it comes to fruition.
Anybody can be after the fact talking smack after it's
all over. I don't respect that I think it's lame.
(28:29):
Joe Kelly, to his credit and Rob g I mean,
you guys know this. They got t shirts made of
him making the face, you know, doing all this, and
he's always into something time. He's one of the few
players on the team who does that, who participates in
the smack talking and talking trash, and you know, he's
there for all the smoke. And I like that because
you cannot have a team without a few guys like that.
(28:50):
Somebody got to get your own teammates here. Hey, man,
come on, you know who you are. We better than
them boys suck.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
You need that on the team as much as you
need some even kill guys and some super professionals. You
need a couple of guys who were ready to go
out there and get into a brawl and get out
there and let him hang a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And I like that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
So for me, I don't mind a little track star
because now the Yankees like what a word? That's what
he said, okay, and I do. And also it turns
me to a question. You you'd watch you watch a
little you know more than me. You maybe keep up
with the Yankees more. Were they sloppy throughout the season.
I mean asked a legitimate question like were they more
known to be not as Aaron Judge.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Aaron Judge made his first errand ever so, but I question, yeah, yeah,
I mean there were misgues or whatever, but they also
played and made some plays and stuff. Sure it was
magnified because they all came in one inning like the
Aaron Judge thing is like totally out of left hand
that inning, which is crazy man at the documentary on
(29:47):
that inning.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Right, it's coming for sure. But let me let me
give you I just wanted to give you.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Anybody, no, no, no about them Bums?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Dem Bums was an informal nickname for the Brooklyn Dodgers
baseball team from nineteen thirty seven to nineteen fifty seven.
The nickname came from a cartoon by a sports cartoonist,
Willard Mullin that depicted circus clown as a hobo named
Weary Willie, and the cartoon response to a cab driver's
comment to Mullins about how the Dodgers were doing, and
(30:19):
he said, dim bums are bombs, and that was because
they always wound up losing his.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Postseason to get well, they ain't them bums, no more.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
No, no but this, but the idea and the uh,
the idea of trashing the Yankees after the fact by
Joe Cole.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I just think it's tasteless.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You won the World Series, you weren't even a big
part of it, like like that. If this was coming
from Mookie Bats or somebody, I could respect it a
little bit more, you know what I mean, because at
least they did something in it. But for Joe Kelly
not to do anything, it's crazy. And I will say this,
this is what happens. We talk about it when you
get these podcasts, like you're gonna get guys on because
(31:02):
you can't always get a Mookie or Show Hey or
Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Right, so you get the other guys. You get a Kyk,
you get a Joe Kelly, you might get a you know,
a Blake Tranning trying who wouldn't say anything. But you
just get these other guys on the team, and then
they say something that because they're talking to you, they
they're feeling themselves and had a couple we got the
mics going, and then it gets out there, right, it
starts to spread, and now you got Rob Parker and
Kevin Washington having a conversation about it as well. But yeah,
(31:28):
I just I don't mind it a little bit. I
like a little trash talking in my sports
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