November 9, 2024 • 27 mins
Rob and Kelvin take James Jones to task for suggesting that Dak Prescott has ‘quit’ on the Dallas Cowboys even though he’s dealing with a legitimate hamstring injury, explain why they have such a big problem with the Los Angeles Lakers’ plan to shuttle Bronny James back and forth from the G-League to the big club and tell us why Lamar Jackson is clearly the best player in the NFL right now.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
James Jones, the former NFL receiver, had something to say
about Dak and his injury with the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Let's hear it, my man, quitting on these dudes.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I've had a hamstring plenty of times and I'm back
the next week. I'm not Tyreek hel It don't take
no four weeks for you to heal from no hamshring.
You're not Lamar Jackson, You're not Jalen Hurts. You're not
running where where are you running to? You're not running
four weeks, basically putting me on ice for four right,
(01:00):
no fight, no nothing, Ay man, I'll be back in
two weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'll be back in a week.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
This is a hamstring for a quarterback that's not explosive
at the quarterback spot Dak Prescott with the way the
season is going right now, we heard him on the
sideline what he said, Dak is quitting on these boys.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And can I say this.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, I know a lot of former athletes who are
in this business, and some of them are very good.
Charles Barkley, Shannon dude, right, I mean for real? Okay,
So I want to say this, but when you act
as if you're a reporter and you've done some other
than just coming up with a point of view or
(01:40):
especially I'll always tell people, whether they're opinionists, analysts, debaters,
former athletes do not diagnose someone's injury or their threshold
of pain.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You really don't know. No, I don't care what somebody
looks like, what you think. And here's the worst part
that since James Jones said this is it, James Jane
Slater yeah, reported that the tendip tore off the bone. Yeah, okay,
So how do you sound now telling somebody that he
(02:17):
quit on a team, Because I I had the same
thing and I was able.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
To First of all, we let's just have a grown
man conversation and grown people because Manti's here, Monty Cover years,
every girl man has pulled a hamstring doing the do
you know you done did the d if you know
what I'm talking about, you like, oh, you know what
I mean. You didn't stretch, you weren't hydrated enough, meaning
there are levels and grades to hamstring pools. We all
(02:43):
know this, right, We've all pulled a hamstring playing a
sport or something and you can get back the next
day or next week. To his point, did you not
see Dak Prescott's face trying to throw a ball like
he literally like ah, throwing the football, like you don't
do that? If that's just an injury, all be right back. Also,
let's be fair and contextualize the individual. Dak Prescott doesn't
(03:05):
have a history of like I'm not gonna play this game.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
He's been a guy that's been there for his team
when they were good, when they were bad. He's been
he's been a fall guy even if he wasn't playing bad,
and he'll say he'll take the blame. He is not
the type of guy that's gonna I ain't playing no
moro with hurt. His finger was split open and swollen,
handstring tore up like that just that wasn't the game
or the injury.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Where I go, oh, he just don't want to play
no more.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
And it was four weeks And if he was like
the season, then I'm like, Okay, maybe there's something to that.
He added some extra sauce on that that wasn't necessary.
Especially again considering the guy Dak Prescott, for all his
shortcomings as maybe being able to make plays, being able
to excel in high pressurize moments, I don't question his
durability in wanting to be out there, you know what
(03:52):
I mean, Like, he's not that guy to me to
question that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And it's just weird because you saw how much pain
he was that he literally screamed when he through the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Here's my thing. And I hear you, James Jones.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The problem is if he did pick up the phone
and talk to some people in Dallas and they gave
him some insight that was different, like you know, like
say Dak didn't have his tend his hamstring off the bone,
and it was just like and he said, I spoke
to some guys down in Dallas, some of the guys
on the team. They're not happy that Dak's not playing.
(04:25):
They they down. Do you see what I'm saying, You're
like a million miles away watching television, and you're gonna
make a medical diagnosis on somebody else.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I think that and the us the word.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Quit rod right, not just saying like I think he's
I think he's hurt, but he could play, That's what
they okay.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And he purposely but to say that he's healthy enough
to play or could play through it, and he quit
on his team because the season's going down the toilet.
Those are some big charges. And where's the pushback on
the show. This is where we talk about all the time.
Where's the pushback on somebody on that set that say,
(05:06):
how do you know the severity of that injury? Give
me why you believe that would quit this Guy's just
the point you brought up. This guy is a competitor.
He doesn't take off. He doesn't have a history of
like why would you feel this way? And have you
talked to somebody down there? Do you know the team doctor?
(05:29):
Did you do some reporting on this? This is where
as and I say this to the listeners and the
fans who are listening to these guys again, I told
you there's plenty of guys who do a really good
job and I respect, but there's a lot of hacks
who are out there just throwing stuff out there, you know,
to go after people. And this is a prime example
(05:50):
on why you can't do it because now you've got
egg on your face where he has like.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Are you going to.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Retract that tomorrow and say like like like like getting
that's that's attacking not only somebody's threshold of pain or
whatever they're going through, but their integrity.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
To say, that's a big one.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
If the question was, hey, guys, how how do they
move on with DAK or does DAC play through? And
you say, look, man, I've had some handstreets pool. It's tough,
you know, but you can push me. We don't know
what to digrect.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
You gotta say.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
But even I'm trying to even offer a little bit
of you can see what I'm saying. Yeah, the only
reason I'm saying is if you put it on yourself,
you get what I'm saying. If you were saying, man,
I've had something I pushed through that okay, all right, Fine,
I get that, I got okay, fine, But to say
a guy in that position, the quarterback position, which is
supposed to be the ultimate leader of a team. To
use a word, he quit on his team, and to
be emphatic about it that that's that's doing too much.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
We gotta update. Oh we got an update ro story all.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
A few minutes ago, James Jones actually tweeted out after
someone shared the video, Nah, this can't wait till to
talk about tomorrow show. That's my fault seeing the reports,
how bad it might be. That's tough.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Godspeed Deck say this is what I'm talking about, and
he knows it can't wait till tomorrow because somebody from
Fox probably called him and said, dude, this is why
you can't just jump the gun and throw on information
and say stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Well he didn't just say, man, you know it didn't
hurt that bad. So that's bad enough. He quit on
his team as a major indictment, is my pool. I
think that's the part that bothered me the most was
to say he quit, because, right you you never want
to be labeled as a quitter, as a person who
didn't lead his team, as a person who let his
team down, as a person who wasn't there and wasn't
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gonna fight for his team, especially the quarterback position, especially
when you already have the pressure of being a sixty
million dollar man as you do, Dak Prescott, that's the
last thing you needed.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
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Speaker 3 (08:00):
Rob G, can you give us?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
The Lakers have putting out the official plan for Brownie
as we move forward and yours truly?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
We I was right and no here we and I
want people to say who was closer to being right?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Wasn't me or was it you? Because I think it
was me. I think it was me.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
While Bronnie James as Laker fanderferts on the human Victory
cigar because if he gets in the game, you know,
either we're blowing the team out or we're getting blown out.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
That was Darko when he was with the Piston Man
doing that. That was he was the human victary. We
made that man lead the country. He was he was
dealing with so much.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But you know what's crazy is his style of play,
which was he was early.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
He was too early. He was too early.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
He was exactly what everybody's doing now, all these guys,
Luca and Olive. That's the style of play, and Larry
Brown hated it, but that is the right play now.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Any event, it was announced today by the Lakers that
Bronnie James will be a sign into the South Bay Lakers,
their G League affiliate, which seemed okay on his face
until you read the fine print. The Lakers are only
gonna allow BROWNI to play in G League home games
so that he can shuttle back and forth between the
(09:15):
G League and the Big League Laker team throughout the season.
So he's not gonna just be one or the other.
He's gonna be splitting time with both.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Now, here's why I believe that I won this, Okay,
It's Kelvin's point was he's gonna play the first couple
of games and then they're gonna send them down and
we'll see him again at the end of the year
or something.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
That's what you said. We're not gonna see him at
the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I believe that they were gonna use the thing that
it would be better for him to be around Bron
and Lebron and JJ Reddick, and that's what they're using
so half the time. No, But but you had him
not coming back, that he was gonna play. This is
what you said, okay, that he would play, he would
be around for like four or six games for the season.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
This is not this part right here? Was it?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
But but that's not what he's doing. Though he's gonna
be He's gonna be available for way more. What Laker
Home gave me forty one games, you did not expect
to know. I'll I'll be real. I knew he would.
This part of it was exactly what I knew. He
played the first six seven, get whatever it was and
go straight to G League. That that part was a given.
I knew that.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I did not expect this half only shuttling that.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Rob forty one Homeme, he's gonna be around for.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Forty dot And I'll admit so clearly I was wrong
on that. I didn't think they do that. I knew
he would go to the G League. I don't get
this plan. And you know, I was okay with the ceremonial,
get the father and son. It didn't bother me. He
was a fifty fifth pick. Lebron has earned this being
the face of the league for twenty years. That didn't
bother me. This kind of bothers me in that. What
is this? He got the ceremonial, you got it even
(10:45):
in Cleveland, gonna come out on play in.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
The game, but he did get But he got this
play there. I'm cool with that.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Now he's down to the G League, where he deserves
to be because he needs to get better. He needs
to get cooked down there. But he might get cooked.
But I'm okay with that too. Get cooked, get better.
It wasn't like he was killing him in college. Go there,
get better. Play, Go through the ups and downs. Rob
you know this. You cover baseball, you know all minor leagues,
as we don't have anything. This is newer in the NBA.
But like you gotta go through the traveling, right, go
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through the bumps, the bruises, the traveling, the buses, the buses.
You're starting, you're not starting, you whatever? Getting cooked, cooking somebody.
I don't like this portion of it. I was cool
with the ceremonial. Play the first five six to seven games.
We all see him. Dad high five. Hey, the Griffies
are here, arm around each other. Picture a picture, historic moment.
Clap it up. Now go get better, go get better
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and don't just go away. You're back and then you
hear it. Go get better, night and night out, learn
grow ups and downs, travel, what it's like to be pro.
I just I would have preferred that plan. I was
cool with the ceremonial end of it. This part, I'm like, oh, okay,
I actually don't quite get it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
This is why what you're doing will be like on
the Lakers serious about winning seriously, because this makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I as a you know, a person who's supported it,
I don't get this portion of like what like what
is this? Like's not playing when he's at home, so why.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Why is it?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Why does he need to be there? It doesn't make
any sense. How you learn to get better is by playing.
You need to put in your right and and if
he's not going to be playing, like he's a season ticket.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Holder, Like what would what would be the reason for this?
I'm trying. Robert G and I were talking about this.
Bob G, you're a Laker fan? Does this make you
just make sense?
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Of course it doesn't make sense, like like is the
plan for him to develop or is the plan for
him to just be on the team next to little.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Bit I think honestly in this is you know, y'all
know how I am. I will raise my hand first
to a minute, big big Lebron fan. I think this
is having him here multiple reasons. One, I feel he's
better around me to learn, like you know what I mean,
Like he's better suited here too in case some other
photo op. I'm on the and Don broke some new record,
you know what I mean, like something Lebron and dig no.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But it's only home game. He's not going on the road.
I mean, I mean on road.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
But I'm saying he's here when the X happens, you
know what I mean, Like I have him here when
the next break rig record that he breaks, Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
But he could he could be called up for that.
They know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
And listen, you see me stretching Tayshaw pritchlong. I'm trying
to find something.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
But rob G, what did I say that that would
be the selling point that he could learn from me here?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And JJ Reddick? More So, why happen the middle? You
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's weird, like because they really want him with the
team the whole time, and they know that they can't
do it.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Because people would really like trip out.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
But also it's not good form, like he's not good
like he but you got I guess that's serious.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Like if they could just say he's on the team
and he's not doing he's not doing this at all,
he's just gonna stay with the big club and learn
from us and all that, that's what they would do.
I think that they really that's this is the this
is the compromise.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So Lebron is somewhat happy, right.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
And yet they can also say, see, we're sitting him down,
he's earning his time. Yeah, I just I think this
one and now this is what reached to me. This
is Tayshaun Prince Andre Andre Carolinko's long arms, Like this
is like we'll be doing here.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Let him go down there, let him play.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
And I told you my theory was he'd pop back
up around the postseason so that he could experience them,
even if it was on the bench, he'd experience the
postseason just to say I experienced what the postseason was like.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
This is just weird. I don't see the benefit.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
He's to Rob G's point earlier, he's only coming in
if they're either getting destroyed or they are destroying the team,
which is really not benefiting because only playing you know,
the last three four minutes. He might as well go
down there. Like I said, learn to be a pro.
You're traveling on your own, you're traveling with the team.
You're going through the ups, You're building bonds with the
Geni League guys, you're hearing their stories, You're seeing what
it's like to battle, You're seeing what it's like to
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commit to play and being a part of that. Just
being on the Lakers where like I'm seeing it, but
I'm not necessarily getting to play. And you learn from
game time decisions, right, all right, we're down to down there.
You gotta be in those in any of those games.
You're gonna be in those games in the G League, man,
And I just yeah, so this one, I was like.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh, okay, that's because and that's why I always thought
he was gonna be I said he'd be there all year.
And I was shocked that they were going to send
them down because I was like, Lebron is going to
use the point that he can learn more from me, and.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Jay Point just didn't do that or send them What
is this weird cop rise?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Is this weird.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I think that they don't want to lose the entire
team and have people go the Lakers, because there are already
people have said that the Lakers aren't serious about winning,
you know what I mean, and that's out there, and
to say that Brianni would be with the team the
entire year would be some pushback.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
But I think we would have forgotten after a while
because either would play so little.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
We would have just be like, oh, yeah, Bronni's there, like.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Would a roster spot, and he's not getting or that's
the point. And then every time they're up by twenty
or down by twenty, didn't you see Bronnie, it becomes
like a joke.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I think I just would have read that so that
it was just like, Oh, this is gonna be that
kind of a season where you know, Bronnie comes in,
we y'all go, oh yeah he shot, Oh he finally
got his point. You just I'd rather that then wait,
Bronnie not here? What he is here to that way?
Brian way he played?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Wait is the third every other Tuesday? Every other third?
What is he play?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
It's just weird, but I think he's supposed to take
full advantage of the g League. Go down there, man,
grind it out. I think you kind of want that,
you know what I mean, Like, let me go prove it,
let me go put this work in right now. The
ceremonial part I was a okay with because it may
say I guarantee that I think he loves the idea
that he either Bronnie or he brought Ronnie.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
He's gonna be up with the big team.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That's why he doesn't have your typical contract, a two
way contract. He has a fully guaranteed NBA contract, not
a two way. And if he had a two way,
then it would make sense correct that he's gonna be there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
What is it? I got what is his contract? Again?
Speaker 6 (16:58):
He's got a guaranteed one year tract, but the last
two years are not fully guaranteed.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, it's like a weird Yeah, the first to know
what ConA is. It's weird, Like this plan that'sktchak is weird.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I got a question.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I'm trying to stretch on.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm trying to get there with you, trying to get stretch.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I'm trying to mental gymnastics my way to come on, les,
what if? Because Brownie James has said himself. He's not
gonna be a scoring point guard. He's not gonna be
one of these guys breaking down dribble. He wants to
be Derek White, Drew Holliday, Dave I, Mitch, I'm gonna
play defense. He spotted, but that's what he wants to do.
(17:36):
It's nice if is it possible that they're saying if
we put him down at the G League full time
and you see he's not putting up twenty two and
seven a game, and then it gets to his head
that hey, you're in the g leaue, this is the
lower level and you can even do it here. This
is why it's gonna break you down mentally. So shan
uh gee, I'm trying. I'm you're trying right now.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Here's the thing, though, Okay, I go down there, a
good game, had eighteen and five.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
It was a good game, a nice night.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Then the next night, because we're at home with the
Lakers on a bench sitting all night, like.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
What but you're giving it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's the good night. What if it's one for thirteen
in the G League or you.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (18:15):
But then my point would be the the next game,
go go get twenty like, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You're not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I understand that he'll get some playing time, but what
if he doesn't play well? Is the thing in the
G league? We really know, yo. I mean, if Bronnie
has bad nights, trust me, you'll know that Bronnie's had bad.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
We got football going on. We got the start of
the end.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
We were getting Brownie preseason stats on Sports Center.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
But my point was that was like preseason to you know,
like the full but that was a preseason with two
for eighteen in the press, both of you Rock Square, Hello,
let me do it you.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Is this thing on that was preseason Lakers in South Bay?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
If Brownie has one for fourteen in South Bay, that
will be on Sports Center.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
And if he I'll give you one for fourteen that's
like horrible. But if it goes like three for twelve,
that ain't making those.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Sports that might not. But I'm saying, if he has
a bad night or horrid, horrific.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Night, I'll give you that. If it's just a horrific one.
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Speaker 3 (19:31):
Let's start here with Jackson. Is that game of the
year so far? I mean, just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And I know a lot of people are gonna get
their panties in a bunch if you say, Lamar Jackson
is better than Patrick Mahomes because of because it's because
of the resume.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
And it's not as.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
We're not talking about legacy quite yet, a legacy or
even like uh, you know, Lifetime Achievement Award. Okay, that's
not what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Who's the best player.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I think it's so obvious and for all those people
who have really been down on him.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
For a long time, even like, uh.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Remember Bill Bill Pollion, who's a Hall of Fame executive
or whatever. And I'm not people get stuff. Everybody gets one.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
But if you remember him saying this guy should go
try try out as a wide receiver, like like, seriously,
that's missing the boat.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Hit me with it. That sounds racist.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Hit me with it, Bill Polly, And that was sounding
you know what I mean, like just go be that athlete,
like you can't be a.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Quarter and and and you couldn't have been more wrong
about him, and then of course, well, of course you
can run. Well, we got that about it. In the pocket, dude,
he's annihilating. Have you seen his last four games? Fourteen touchdowns,
no picks. You should just look at the number. That's
from all over the place, running the ball right, running
(21:08):
with the ball, the plays he makes, uh, passing out
of the pocket, the perfect fourth quarter yesterday Joe Burrow
has four touchdowns or whatever or do you have a
three or.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Four for four? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Four two, yeah, And it didn't matter, like like they
were looking like what like like they were down twe
twenty one to seven, Calvin, they were down, down and out.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And Lamar is just he is that guy. I don't know.
He is must see TV. How do you turn away
from him?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
We don't seem to have a lot of musty TV
this year like we've had historically. No the NFL with
the games are you know, we had some good games
and some teams are really I think, really good whole
teams like Detroiting Think is a really good team. Uh,
Kansas City is a good team. They're just not explosive
and not the most exciting. They're not the most entertaining
(22:02):
like they historically were. The Eagles aren't exciting as they
used to be when Jalen was running and passing. So
it's like we're missing Kayleb Williams, the special number one pick.
He's had up and down season, so we don't really
have a lot of excitement. So therefore, Lamar Jackson is
by far the most exciting thing in the NFL. And
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I don't mean just quarterback. I'm talking anybody, kicker, quarterback,
running back, pick aback. Lamar Jackson is that and it's
not even close. And when you look at what he's
doing these numbers, he's absolutely the best player in the
NFL and it's really not close.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Look at these numbers.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
The man has almost we'll call it almost twenty seven
hundred yards, twenty four touchdowns, two interceptions, and a quarterback
rating of one twenty three. And we're only in ten
games in for him, he had twenty four touchdown passes
the entire season last year, he has twenty four or
through ten games already twenty.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
This is what we're trying to talk about.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
The numbers away and he was almost unanimous last year
in MVP, and he's his numbers are ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
It's I mean, you look at the last you mentioned,
listen to these games and remind reminds yourself nobody else
is doing anything close to this, except for maybe Joe
Burrow has been on the road. Uh, Jared Goff's had
a good numbers as far as it's like the actual percentages,
but not yards or anything like that. So when you
talk about Lamar Jackson putting up three forty eight three
twenty three to eighty one, two eighty nine, two eighty
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two ninety, it's incredible what he's doing. And oh, by
the way, when everyone said, oh, he's just not accurate,
he just can't make the right play, and you know
he is doing that time after time, at the time
coming back, and when it's not just he's leading, you know,
he's playing from ahead, he's coming back, he's playing from ahead.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
All of that.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
He's he's also playing for a defense that's letting him down.
There's been games where he's like, hey, hey, I'm we're
doing our job on the defense side. Defense, Could you
guard Jamar cha please? You think he might be somebody
you want to guard. Arguably the one, two three best
receiver and all the football.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Can I give you his second This is in the
second half a loon Lamar on third down seven for seven,
one hundred and thirty three passing yards, nineteen passing yards
per attempt, nineteen three passing touchdowns, no interceptions, are perfect
one point fifty eight point three passer rating in Jackson's
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fourth game this season. This is it was his fourth
game with three touchdowns, a passer rating of over one
thirty five plus Mayfield Golf, Allen and Cousins each down.
Wait a minute, have each have done it twice? I
should say, and the rest of the NFL combined has
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only done it five times?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And the last thing is this was Jackson's sixth straight
game with a passer rating of one hundred plus uh
plus two seventy five as far as passing yards, and
the only other player to do that Peyton Manning seventh
straight and twenty twelve to twenty thirteen, Aaron Rodgers seventh
straight twenty eleven, and again Manning sixth straight and twenty twelve.
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These are all this is telling you where two guys
we just mentioned aren't running quarterback, Those are passing quarterback.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
And that is to which means we're not even mentioning
the other you know, four five hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But it's just those are passing guys Aaron Rodgers and
Peyton Manning and two of the greats.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Right, So yeah, he's at another level.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I'm gonna drop one more thing here on what I've
been witnessing and especially the last two years. You know
how Lebron James during his I mean obviously you could
he's still playing, which is ridiculous. But you know, you
had the Kobe Lebron debate, Kobe Lebron debate, and if
you said, like, Lebron is the better player because he
has more of the tool, bel right, he can do more,
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you say he's the better player. But other people will say, no, Kobe,
and their point would be because who would you want
taking the last shot? And everybody will say, oh, that's Kobe.
That's kind of where Lamar is gonna have to get.
He's gonna have to get to that part where people
will say, yeah, he's putting up the numbers, he can
run better, he's more dynamic, but who would I want
with the ball in the last drive here? Patrick Mahomes
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is gonna be interesting to see this season because I
have a feeling they're gonna have to run into each
other again, can he finally outduel him, because that's the
last little thing, that's the one chick in the armor
is they're gonna say, yeah, but with the last drive,
can he get it done against that team or can
he you know, out sing Patrick.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Saw it in Week one. I mean, he threw a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
That was right there and you can look and go,
wal we didn't count, but but he made the play.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
He made the play and the best He is better
than Patrick Mahomes right now, not saying this season, and really.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I don't even think it's a he's better than Patrick Mahoe.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
He's playing the position better, he's more accurate, he has
more yards, he has more touchdowns, he runs better. He's
the best player in all of football for the last
couple of.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Imagine, imagine if he had Patrick Mahomes' defense where he
would be? I mean right, because he's winning in spite
of the defense. Defense is twenty seventh that the Ravens
have always had.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Ray lewis rolling around his grave, Ed Reider's rolling around
his grave right now.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
They're not dead.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I know, okay, I know, fully aware. Don't interrupt the
good joke. Okay, with some antics over there, Okay, I
got you. I'm just like, what is going on? This
is not this is not how you associate the Ravens
with this kind of defense. And they were just letting.
I mean, Joe Burrow was getting busy last night. I
know he was looking like, how did I lose his game?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
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James Jones, the former NFL receiver, had something to say
about Dak and his injury with the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Let's hear it, my man, quitting on these dudes.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I've had a hamstring plenty of times and I'm back
the next week. I'm not Tyreek hel It don't take
no four weeks for you to heal from no hamshring.
You're not Lamar Jackson, You're not Jalen Hurts. You're not
running where where are you running to? You're not running
four weeks, basically putting me on ice for four right,
(01:00):
no fight, no nothing, Ay man, I'll be back in
two weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'll be back in a week.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
This is a hamstring for a quarterback that's not explosive
at the quarterback spot Dak Prescott with the way the
season is going right now, we heard him on the
sideline what he said, Dak is quitting on these boys.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And can I say this.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, I know a lot of former athletes who are
in this business, and some of them are very good.
Charles Barkley, Shannon dude, right, I mean for real? Okay,
So I want to say this, but when you act
as if you're a reporter and you've done some other
than just coming up with a point of view or
(01:40):
especially I'll always tell people, whether they're opinionists, analysts, debaters,
former athletes do not diagnose someone's injury or their threshold
of pain.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You really don't know. No, I don't care what somebody
looks like, what you think. And here's the worst part
that since James Jones said this is it, James Jane
Slater yeah, reported that the tendip tore off the bone. Yeah, okay,
So how do you sound now telling somebody that he
(02:17):
quit on a team, Because I I had the same
thing and I was able.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
To First of all, we let's just have a grown
man conversation and grown people because Manti's here, Monty Cover years,
every girl man has pulled a hamstring doing the do
you know you done did the d if you know
what I'm talking about, you like, oh, you know what
I mean. You didn't stretch, you weren't hydrated enough, meaning
there are levels and grades to hamstring pools. We all
(02:43):
know this, right, We've all pulled a hamstring playing a
sport or something and you can get back the next
day or next week. To his point, did you not
see Dak Prescott's face trying to throw a ball like
he literally like ah, throwing the football, like you don't
do that? If that's just an injury, all be right back. Also,
let's be fair and contextualize the individual. Dak Prescott doesn't
(03:05):
have a history of like I'm not gonna play this game.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
He's been a guy that's been there for his team
when they were good, when they were bad. He's been
he's been a fall guy even if he wasn't playing bad,
and he'll say he'll take the blame. He is not
the type of guy that's gonna I ain't playing no
moro with hurt. His finger was split open and swollen,
handstring tore up like that just that wasn't the game
or the injury.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Where I go, oh, he just don't want to play
no more.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
And it was four weeks And if he was like
the season, then I'm like, Okay, maybe there's something to that.
He added some extra sauce on that that wasn't necessary.
Especially again considering the guy Dak Prescott, for all his
shortcomings as maybe being able to make plays, being able
to excel in high pressurize moments, I don't question his
durability in wanting to be out there, you know what
(03:52):
I mean, Like, he's not that guy to me to
question that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And it's just weird because you saw how much pain
he was that he literally screamed when he through the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Here's my thing. And I hear you, James Jones.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The problem is if he did pick up the phone
and talk to some people in Dallas and they gave
him some insight that was different, like you know, like
say Dak didn't have his tend his hamstring off the bone,
and it was just like and he said, I spoke
to some guys down in Dallas, some of the guys
on the team. They're not happy that Dak's not playing.
(04:25):
They they down. Do you see what I'm saying, You're
like a million miles away watching television, and you're gonna
make a medical diagnosis on somebody else.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I think that and the us the word.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Quit rod right, not just saying like I think he's
I think he's hurt, but he could play, That's what
they okay.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And he purposely but to say that he's healthy enough
to play or could play through it, and he quit
on his team because the season's going down the toilet.
Those are some big charges. And where's the pushback on
the show. This is where we talk about all the time.
Where's the pushback on somebody on that set that say,
(05:06):
how do you know the severity of that injury? Give
me why you believe that would quit this Guy's just
the point you brought up. This guy is a competitor.
He doesn't take off. He doesn't have a history of
like why would you feel this way? And have you
talked to somebody down there? Do you know the team doctor?
(05:29):
Did you do some reporting on this? This is where
as and I say this to the listeners and the
fans who are listening to these guys again, I told
you there's plenty of guys who do a really good
job and I respect, but there's a lot of hacks
who are out there just throwing stuff out there, you know,
to go after people. And this is a prime example
(05:50):
on why you can't do it because now you've got
egg on your face where he has like.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Are you going to.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Retract that tomorrow and say like like like like getting
that's that's attacking not only somebody's threshold of pain or
whatever they're going through, but their integrity.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
To say, that's a big one.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
If the question was, hey, guys, how how do they
move on with DAK or does DAC play through? And
you say, look, man, I've had some handstreets pool. It's tough,
you know, but you can push me. We don't know
what to digrect.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
You gotta say.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
But even I'm trying to even offer a little bit
of you can see what I'm saying. Yeah, the only
reason I'm saying is if you put it on yourself,
you get what I'm saying. If you were saying, man,
I've had something I pushed through that okay, all right, Fine,
I get that, I got okay, fine, But to say
a guy in that position, the quarterback position, which is
supposed to be the ultimate leader of a team. To
use a word, he quit on his team, and to
be emphatic about it that that's that's doing too much.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
We gotta update. Oh we got an update ro story all.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
A few minutes ago, James Jones actually tweeted out after
someone shared the video, Nah, this can't wait till to
talk about tomorrow show. That's my fault seeing the reports,
how bad it might be. That's tough.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Godspeed Deck say this is what I'm talking about, and
he knows it can't wait till tomorrow because somebody from
Fox probably called him and said, dude, this is why
you can't just jump the gun and throw on information
and say stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Well he didn't just say, man, you know it didn't
hurt that bad. So that's bad enough. He quit on
his team as a major indictment, is my pool. I
think that's the part that bothered me the most was
to say he quit, because, right you you never want
to be labeled as a quitter, as a person who
didn't lead his team, as a person who let his
team down, as a person who wasn't there and wasn't
(07:38):
gonna fight for his team, especially the quarterback position, especially
when you already have the pressure of being a sixty
million dollar man as you do, Dak Prescott, that's the
last thing you needed.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
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Speaker 3 (08:00):
Rob G, can you give us?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
The Lakers have putting out the official plan for Brownie
as we move forward and yours truly?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
We I was right and no here we and I
want people to say who was closer to being right?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Wasn't me or was it you? Because I think it
was me. I think it was me.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
While Bronnie James as Laker fanderferts on the human Victory
cigar because if he gets in the game, you know,
either we're blowing the team out or we're getting blown out.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
That was Darko when he was with the Piston Man
doing that. That was he was the human victary. We
made that man lead the country. He was he was
dealing with so much.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But you know what's crazy is his style of play,
which was he was early.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
He was too early. He was too early.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
He was exactly what everybody's doing now, all these guys,
Luca and Olive. That's the style of play, and Larry
Brown hated it, but that is the right play now.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Any event, it was announced today by the Lakers that
Bronnie James will be a sign into the South Bay Lakers,
their G League affiliate, which seemed okay on his face
until you read the fine print. The Lakers are only
gonna allow BROWNI to play in G League home games
so that he can shuttle back and forth between the
(09:15):
G League and the Big League Laker team throughout the season.
So he's not gonna just be one or the other.
He's gonna be splitting time with both.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Now, here's why I believe that I won this, Okay,
It's Kelvin's point was he's gonna play the first couple
of games and then they're gonna send them down and
we'll see him again at the end of the year
or something.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
That's what you said. We're not gonna see him at
the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I believe that they were gonna use the thing that
it would be better for him to be around Bron
and Lebron and JJ Reddick, and that's what they're using
so half the time. No, But but you had him
not coming back, that he was gonna play. This is
what you said, okay, that he would play, he would
be around for like four or six games for the season.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
This is not this part right here? Was it?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
But but that's not what he's doing. Though he's gonna
be He's gonna be available for way more. What Laker
Home gave me forty one games, you did not expect
to know. I'll I'll be real. I knew he would.
This part of it was exactly what I knew. He
played the first six seven, get whatever it was and
go straight to G League. That that part was a given.
I knew that.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I did not expect this half only shuttling that.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Rob forty one Homeme, he's gonna be around for.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Forty dot And I'll admit so clearly I was wrong
on that. I didn't think they do that. I knew
he would go to the G League. I don't get
this plan. And you know, I was okay with the ceremonial,
get the father and son. It didn't bother me. He
was a fifty fifth pick. Lebron has earned this being
the face of the league for twenty years. That didn't
bother me. This kind of bothers me in that. What
is this? He got the ceremonial, you got it even
(10:45):
in Cleveland, gonna come out on play in.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
The game, but he did get But he got this
play there. I'm cool with that.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Now he's down to the G League, where he deserves
to be because he needs to get better. He needs
to get cooked down there. But he might get cooked.
But I'm okay with that too. Get cooked, get better.
It wasn't like he was killing him in college. Go there,
get better. Play, Go through the ups and downs. Rob
you know this. You cover baseball, you know all minor leagues,
as we don't have anything. This is newer in the NBA.
But like you gotta go through the traveling, right, go
(11:12):
through the bumps, the bruises, the traveling, the buses, the buses.
You're starting, you're not starting, you whatever? Getting cooked, cooking somebody.
I don't like this portion of it. I was cool
with the ceremonial. Play the first five six to seven games.
We all see him. Dad high five. Hey, the Griffies
are here, arm around each other. Picture a picture, historic moment.
Clap it up. Now go get better, go get better
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and don't just go away. You're back and then you
hear it. Go get better, night and night out, learn
grow ups and downs, travel, what it's like to be pro.
I just I would have preferred that plan. I was
cool with the ceremonial end of it. This part, I'm like, oh, okay,
I actually don't quite get it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
This is why what you're doing will be like on
the Lakers serious about winning seriously, because this makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I as a you know, a person who's supported it,
I don't get this portion of like what like what
is this? Like's not playing when he's at home, so why.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Why is it?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Why does he need to be there? It doesn't make
any sense. How you learn to get better is by playing.
You need to put in your right and and if
he's not going to be playing, like he's a season ticket.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Holder, Like what would what would be the reason for this?
I'm trying. Robert G and I were talking about this.
Bob G, you're a Laker fan? Does this make you
just make sense?
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Of course it doesn't make sense, like like is the
plan for him to develop or is the plan for
him to just be on the team next to little.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Bit I think honestly in this is you know, y'all
know how I am. I will raise my hand first
to a minute, big big Lebron fan. I think this
is having him here multiple reasons. One, I feel he's
better around me to learn, like you know what I mean,
Like he's better suited here too in case some other
photo op. I'm on the and Don broke some new record,
you know what I mean, like something Lebron and dig no.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But it's only home game. He's not going on the road.
I mean, I mean on road.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
But I'm saying he's here when the X happens, you
know what I mean, Like I have him here when
the next break rig record that he breaks, Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
But he could he could be called up for that.
They know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
And listen, you see me stretching Tayshaw pritchlong. I'm trying
to find something.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
But rob G, what did I say that that would
be the selling point that he could learn from me here?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And JJ Reddick? More So, why happen the middle? You
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's weird, like because they really want him with the
team the whole time, and they know that they can't
do it.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Because people would really like trip out.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
But also it's not good form, like he's not good
like he but you got I guess that's serious.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Like if they could just say he's on the team
and he's not doing he's not doing this at all,
he's just gonna stay with the big club and learn
from us and all that, that's what they would do.
I think that they really that's this is the this
is the compromise.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So Lebron is somewhat happy, right.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
And yet they can also say, see, we're sitting him down,
he's earning his time. Yeah, I just I think this
one and now this is what reached to me. This
is Tayshaun Prince Andre Andre Carolinko's long arms, Like this
is like we'll be doing here.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Let him go down there, let him play.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
And I told you my theory was he'd pop back
up around the postseason so that he could experience them,
even if it was on the bench, he'd experience the
postseason just to say I experienced what the postseason was like.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
This is just weird. I don't see the benefit.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
He's to Rob G's point earlier, he's only coming in
if they're either getting destroyed or they are destroying the team,
which is really not benefiting because only playing you know,
the last three four minutes. He might as well go
down there. Like I said, learn to be a pro.
You're traveling on your own, you're traveling with the team.
You're going through the ups, You're building bonds with the
Geni League guys, you're hearing their stories, You're seeing what
it's like to battle, You're seeing what it's like to
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commit to play and being a part of that. Just
being on the Lakers where like I'm seeing it, but
I'm not necessarily getting to play. And you learn from
game time decisions, right, all right, we're down to down there.
You gotta be in those in any of those games.
You're gonna be in those games in the G League, man,
And I just yeah, so this one, I was like.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh, okay, that's because and that's why I always thought
he was gonna be I said he'd be there all year.
And I was shocked that they were going to send
them down because I was like, Lebron is going to
use the point that he can learn more from me, and.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Jay Point just didn't do that or send them What
is this weird cop rise?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Is this weird.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I think that they don't want to lose the entire
team and have people go the Lakers, because there are already
people have said that the Lakers aren't serious about winning,
you know what I mean, and that's out there, and
to say that Brianni would be with the team the
entire year would be some pushback.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
But I think we would have forgotten after a while
because either would play so little.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
We would have just be like, oh, yeah, Bronni's there, like.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Would a roster spot, and he's not getting or that's
the point. And then every time they're up by twenty
or down by twenty, didn't you see Bronnie, it becomes
like a joke.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I think I just would have read that so that
it was just like, Oh, this is gonna be that
kind of a season where you know, Bronnie comes in,
we y'all go, oh yeah he shot, Oh he finally
got his point. You just I'd rather that then wait,
Bronnie not here? What he is here to that way?
Brian way he played?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Wait is the third every other Tuesday? Every other third?
What is he play?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
It's just weird, but I think he's supposed to take
full advantage of the g League. Go down there, man,
grind it out. I think you kind of want that,
you know what I mean, Like, let me go prove it,
let me go put this work in right now. The
ceremonial part I was a okay with because it may
say I guarantee that I think he loves the idea
that he either Bronnie or he brought Ronnie.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
He's gonna be up with the big team.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That's why he doesn't have your typical contract, a two
way contract. He has a fully guaranteed NBA contract, not
a two way. And if he had a two way,
then it would make sense correct that he's gonna be there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
What is it? I got what is his contract? Again?
Speaker 6 (16:58):
He's got a guaranteed one year tract, but the last
two years are not fully guaranteed.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, it's like a weird Yeah, the first to know
what ConA is. It's weird, Like this plan that'sktchak is weird.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I got a question.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I'm trying to stretch on.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm trying to get there with you, trying to get stretch.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I'm trying to mental gymnastics my way to come on, les,
what if? Because Brownie James has said himself. He's not
gonna be a scoring point guard. He's not gonna be
one of these guys breaking down dribble. He wants to
be Derek White, Drew Holliday, Dave I, Mitch, I'm gonna
play defense. He spotted, but that's what he wants to do.
(17:36):
It's nice if is it possible that they're saying if
we put him down at the G League full time
and you see he's not putting up twenty two and
seven a game, and then it gets to his head
that hey, you're in the g leaue, this is the
lower level and you can even do it here. This
is why it's gonna break you down mentally. So shan
uh gee, I'm trying. I'm you're trying right now.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Here's the thing, though, Okay, I go down there, a
good game, had eighteen and five.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
It was a good game, a nice night.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Then the next night, because we're at home with the
Lakers on a bench sitting all night, like.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
What but you're giving it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's the good night. What if it's one for thirteen
in the G League or you.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (18:15):
But then my point would be the the next game,
go go get twenty like, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You're not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I understand that he'll get some playing time, but what
if he doesn't play well? Is the thing in the
G league? We really know, yo. I mean, if Bronnie
has bad nights, trust me, you'll know that Bronnie's had bad.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
We got football going on. We got the start of
the end.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
We were getting Brownie preseason stats on Sports Center.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
But my point was that was like preseason to you know,
like the full but that was a preseason with two
for eighteen in the press, both of you Rock Square, Hello,
let me do it you.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Is this thing on that was preseason Lakers in South Bay?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
If Brownie has one for fourteen in South Bay, that
will be on Sports Center.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
And if he I'll give you one for fourteen that's
like horrible. But if it goes like three for twelve,
that ain't making those.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Sports that might not. But I'm saying, if he has
a bad night or horrid, horrific.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Night, I'll give you that. If it's just a horrific one.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
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Speaker 3 (19:31):
Let's start here with Jackson. Is that game of the
year so far? I mean, just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And I know a lot of people are gonna get
their panties in a bunch if you say, Lamar Jackson
is better than Patrick Mahomes because of because it's because
of the resume.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
And it's not as.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
We're not talking about legacy quite yet, a legacy or
even like uh, you know, Lifetime Achievement Award. Okay, that's
not what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Who's the best player.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I think it's so obvious and for all those people
who have really been down on him.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
For a long time, even like, uh.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Remember Bill Bill Pollion, who's a Hall of Fame executive
or whatever. And I'm not people get stuff. Everybody gets one.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
But if you remember him saying this guy should go
try try out as a wide receiver, like like, seriously,
that's missing the boat.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Hit me with it. That sounds racist.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Hit me with it, Bill Polly, And that was sounding
you know what I mean, like just go be that athlete,
like you can't be a.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Quarter and and and you couldn't have been more wrong
about him, and then of course, well, of course you
can run. Well, we got that about it. In the pocket, dude,
he's annihilating. Have you seen his last four games? Fourteen touchdowns,
no picks. You should just look at the number. That's
from all over the place, running the ball right, running
(21:08):
with the ball, the plays he makes, uh, passing out
of the pocket, the perfect fourth quarter yesterday Joe Burrow
has four touchdowns or whatever or do you have a
three or.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Four for four? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Four two, yeah, And it didn't matter, like like they
were looking like what like like they were down twe
twenty one to seven, Calvin, they were down, down and out.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And Lamar is just he is that guy. I don't know.
He is must see TV. How do you turn away
from him?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
We don't seem to have a lot of musty TV
this year like we've had historically. No the NFL with
the games are you know, we had some good games
and some teams are really I think, really good whole
teams like Detroiting Think is a really good team. Uh,
Kansas City is a good team. They're just not explosive
and not the most exciting. They're not the most entertaining
(22:02):
like they historically were. The Eagles aren't exciting as they
used to be when Jalen was running and passing. So
it's like we're missing Kayleb Williams, the special number one pick.
He's had up and down season, so we don't really
have a lot of excitement. So therefore, Lamar Jackson is
by far the most exciting thing in the NFL. And
(22:22):
I don't mean just quarterback. I'm talking anybody, kicker, quarterback,
running back, pick aback. Lamar Jackson is that and it's
not even close. And when you look at what he's
doing these numbers, he's absolutely the best player in the
NFL and it's really not close.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Look at these numbers.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
The man has almost we'll call it almost twenty seven
hundred yards, twenty four touchdowns, two interceptions, and a quarterback
rating of one twenty three. And we're only in ten
games in for him, he had twenty four touchdown passes
the entire season last year, he has twenty four or
through ten games already twenty.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
This is what we're trying to talk about.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
The numbers away and he was almost unanimous last year
in MVP, and he's his numbers are ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
It's I mean, you look at the last you mentioned,
listen to these games and remind reminds yourself nobody else
is doing anything close to this, except for maybe Joe
Burrow has been on the road. Uh, Jared Goff's had
a good numbers as far as it's like the actual percentages,
but not yards or anything like that. So when you
talk about Lamar Jackson putting up three forty eight three
twenty three to eighty one, two eighty nine, two eighty
(23:31):
two ninety, it's incredible what he's doing. And oh, by
the way, when everyone said, oh, he's just not accurate,
he just can't make the right play, and you know
he is doing that time after time, at the time
coming back, and when it's not just he's leading, you know,
he's playing from ahead, he's coming back, he's playing from ahead.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
All of that.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
He's he's also playing for a defense that's letting him down.
There's been games where he's like, hey, hey, I'm we're
doing our job on the defense side. Defense, Could you
guard Jamar cha please? You think he might be somebody
you want to guard. Arguably the one, two three best
receiver and all the football.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Can I give you his second This is in the
second half a loon Lamar on third down seven for seven,
one hundred and thirty three passing yards, nineteen passing yards
per attempt, nineteen three passing touchdowns, no interceptions, are perfect
one point fifty eight point three passer rating in Jackson's
(24:29):
fourth game this season. This is it was his fourth
game with three touchdowns, a passer rating of over one
thirty five plus Mayfield Golf, Allen and Cousins each down.
Wait a minute, have each have done it twice? I
should say, and the rest of the NFL combined has
(24:49):
only done it five times?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And the last thing is this was Jackson's sixth straight
game with a passer rating of one hundred plus uh
plus two seventy five as far as passing yards, and
the only other player to do that Peyton Manning seventh
straight and twenty twelve to twenty thirteen, Aaron Rodgers seventh
straight twenty eleven, and again Manning sixth straight and twenty twelve.
(25:14):
These are all this is telling you where two guys
we just mentioned aren't running quarterback, Those are passing quarterback.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
And that is to which means we're not even mentioning
the other you know, four five hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But it's just those are passing guys Aaron Rodgers and
Peyton Manning and two of the greats.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Right, So yeah, he's at another level.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I'm gonna drop one more thing here on what I've
been witnessing and especially the last two years. You know
how Lebron James during his I mean obviously you could
he's still playing, which is ridiculous. But you know, you
had the Kobe Lebron debate, Kobe Lebron debate, and if
you said, like, Lebron is the better player because he
has more of the tool, bel right, he can do more,
(25:54):
you say he's the better player. But other people will say, no, Kobe,
and their point would be because who would you want
taking the last shot? And everybody will say, oh, that's Kobe.
That's kind of where Lamar is gonna have to get.
He's gonna have to get to that part where people
will say, yeah, he's putting up the numbers, he can
run better, he's more dynamic, but who would I want
with the ball in the last drive here? Patrick Mahomes
(26:14):
is gonna be interesting to see this season because I
have a feeling they're gonna have to run into each
other again, can he finally outduel him, because that's the
last little thing, that's the one chick in the armor
is they're gonna say, yeah, but with the last drive,
can he get it done against that team or can
he you know, out sing Patrick.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Saw it in Week one. I mean, he threw a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
That was right there and you can look and go,
wal we didn't count, but but he made the play.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
He made the play and the best He is better
than Patrick Mahomes right now, not saying this season, and really.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I don't even think it's a he's better than Patrick Mahoe.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
He's playing the position better, he's more accurate, he has
more yards, he has more touchdowns, he runs better. He's
the best player in all of football for the last
couple of.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Imagine, imagine if he had Patrick Mahomes' defense where he
would be? I mean right, because he's winning in spite
of the defense. Defense is twenty seventh that the Ravens
have always had.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Ray lewis rolling around his grave, Ed Reider's rolling around
his grave right now.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
They're not dead.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I know, okay, I know, fully aware. Don't interrupt the
good joke. Okay, with some antics over there, Okay, I
got you. I'm just like, what is going on? This
is not this is not how you associate the Ravens
with this kind of defense. And they were just letting.
I mean, Joe Burrow was getting busy last night. I
know he was looking like, how did I lose his game?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
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