November 11, 2024 • 32 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether the New York Jets will have to move off of Aaron Rodgers this upcoming season, argue if that crazy Sunday Night Football comeback said more about the Detroit Lions or the Houston Texans and tell us if Micah Parsons' immense talent is worth all the off-the-field headaches he causes for the Dallas Cowboys.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
The Jets, you can say that plan hands landed. I
don't even know if it ever took off. That jet
ain't go. It might have just been stuck on a runway.
This thing is all types of bad right now when
you look at what's going on with the offense.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
One of the things I've mentioned.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
When we talked about the offense on the D, the defense,
the team as a whole, one of the things I
look at all the way it is they I don't
mind we've talked about this before. You see it in
any sport, especially like for instance, you see it in
the NBA with the Lebron led team. Right you kind
of mortgage everything. You say, we're gonna do this, We're
gonna get move coaches, we're gonna go get some rich
Paul guys. We're gonna do whatever we're gonna do when
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we're gonna mortgage our future with this player. That's what
the just did with Aaron Rodgers, and I'm actually not
mad at it. He's a Hall of Famer who has
had an amazing career, and they thought they were a
guy away, so they took the risk, they took the
calculator risk and said we'll pretty much provide everything for him,
and it just hasn't worked out. And now it's to
the place where I'm glad that it's we're here so
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that we can move on, because after ten weeks the
offense looks the same as it has with Zach Wilson.
If they're literally one point more, one point more than
when they had Zach Wilson. The they haven't had any
more yards. They have like eight literally eight more yards
than when they had Zach Wilson. They've went out and
got DeVante Adams is not working. They've got Green Bay
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receivers that's not working. They've changed coaches, it's not working.
They've changed offensive coordinators. It's not working. They have gone
down the entire checklist of what you can do to
make this a better situation and its not work And
so at this point they have to start thinking about
the future.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
What are we going to do moving forward?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
How can we press the reset button, Like when you're
losing to a kid and they all of a sudden
snatched the court out or hit the reset button on
a video game council. It's that time for the Jets
to go ahead and hit reset at the end of
this season.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And figure out what's going to work.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Because defensively they're not great like they had been in
the last few years. Offensively they're trash, which doesn't make sense.
If on paper I told you all the players they have,
you would think, oh, this team is putting up points.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Their not offensive line.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Is bad, they can't run the football, and Aaron Rodgers
is coming off of a major injury.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But they but that all is excuses in the NFL.
But that's what But that's those are facts though.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
But it's just like I'm just saying, if you don't
have an offensive line, I don't care who's the quarterback.
You got to protect the forty year old quarterback. You
got to be able to run the ball forty year
old gall Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You got to be able to do other things so
that it works if.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You don't protect them like they didn't in in the
first game ever, where it was hurried three out of
the four snaps and he wound up getting hurt on
one of the snaps. And if you don't have those things,
I never thought this would work, but I understand why
they did it.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I just said, the franchise that has won a Super
Bowl nineteen sixty.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Nine, I just said, mortgage. They're not going to reset
until after the season is over. They got to see
if if there's any kind of salvaging and seeing if
this progresses. Because you can still draft a quarterback, but
no one on the Jets or Jets fans are looking
at some fun They've drafted Sam Darnold, Zach Wilson, They've
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they've they've drafted, uh, who's the other guy in Seattle.
I'm just forgetting Smith, Gino Smith. They've drafted like nine quarterbacks.
So you can sit here and go, well, they're gonna
start all over again doing that.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
But they're not going to until after the season.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I literally said, at the end of the season and
you yanked the court, how you press reset on the
game council? You start over and organizationally, you have to
figure something out.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
What's our ethos? What do we believe in?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They broke all them gonip So they're gonna have.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
To just like just like the Lions didn't win for
fifty years. Bad ownership, yep, bad gms. Right, you you
experienced it, you watched it some teams. If you don't
have those people in place, it doesn't matter. You still
do the same thing over and over. That's what I'm
literally saying.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They have to find the way to resetting and completely
can change the ethos.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
That's what the Lions did.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
They finally got some better ownership, They finally got some
better right, and they find the Jets did nothing since
sixty whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But the Jets have won a Super Bowl. Let's can
we the Lions sixty whatever? The Lions have never been
to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Why are you telling me what they did with Joe
Namath who is literally eighty something.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
But I'm just saying, you're an organization, a caver never
only Matt No, no, do you know that the Lions
are only franchise and they're the only team that want it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Okay, but we're talking about the Jets who have equally
done nothing they want it with Joe Namath. That's if
that's what you're hanging your head on. What are we
doing this about.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
There are three teams that don't have a Super Bowl
and I'm just telling you the Lions are one of them.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Who looks like they're way closer to winning one.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, but I'm just trying to look like in the
Curse Modern No no, no no, But they haven't won, and.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
My pool looks like they're set to win one if
in the next five years at least compete for one.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I don't get what I'm saying to you, And what
I'm saying is bad organizations. This stuff can happen for
a long time because I saw it in Detroit. I
saw them hire Matt Millen. I saw them do the
same thing, draft the same wide receiver. I saw them
do higher dumb coaches and guys who were not good
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over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And I'm trying to say, I'm confused with what you
saying because I'm agreeing. I'm saying the Lionys finally got
it right and get them finally having an ethos away
about it.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
But now the running what I'll never do is I'll
never take away a team. You could, you could discount
Joe Namath and them winning. That is one of the
biggest Super Bowl wins by any team in any franchise
because it be Baltimore Colts.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
My point, it was so long ago.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
There the Indianapolis goes down about the Baltimore Coats.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
What's your history?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
What you don't know is that forced the merger between
the AFL and the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
That's how earth shattering it will pray. I'm just trying
to tell you. Don't hear it. I hear you'll this
guy pray.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
No one ever has to justify Kelvin's success by telling
me something I did in nineteen whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Context, col context cannot discount it as well.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Tell you, I don't want to talk about the championship
brought that up. I don't want to what you brought
a name it is eighty years old. Let me know
when you're done, because you literally everything. There's nothing in the.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
NF with the Packers, none of that matters like in
the in the early days of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
What I'm saying is we're trying to the trophy named
after Should we take Vincent to take his name off
because because he's.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
You can't keep bringing that up.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
If you want to try to take away from the
fact that Aaron Rodgers stinks, he absolutely stinks. You can
bring up Joe Namath if you want, you can bring
up Johnny.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
It's just a crusty trying to give me some I'm
to give you some education.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I don't need that. We all know that they beat
Johnny Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I'm not gonna let you discount a super Bowl when
your team has never won one.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Stick lion about the line. They haven't won. Last year,
they choked that in the Nfship Game.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You can you take choked it that because I didn't
bring up the Lions. He did because you brought the
take when he brought up the Lions.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Can you bring up to take when he told me
about the nineteen Steve whatever. The Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I'm talking the biggest Super Bowl upsets in the.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
History of this league.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
It is the it is it is what forced the
merger between the NFL and the AS.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Let me know what you're done talking about the Civil War.
Let me know you're.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Talking about history. It is a part of my history.
Don't beat us, Johnny, come lately.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
What happened last week in the greatest how about I
haven't won anything.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
So stop. Why did you bring the Lions? Because that's
what Rob Parker, Literally, I love these.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
The Lion all right, literally won the game today, would
have five interceptions and the other team going to second
alb won the Super Bowl last night.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
And I'm gonna disco.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Johnny Cochran and Rod Parker when it comes to defense
attorneys because I brought up that. I brought up nothing
about anything. All I simply said was the Jets whole
situation has been horrific, case, completely horrid, and they need
to reset.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That's all I say. Oh, you did correct me when
I saw.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Joe Namath is eighty years old after you brought him up.
Let me tell you who is not on my mind,
Joe Namath. You brought up Joe Namath. They absolutely need
to pull the plug. And it's okay. The Lions had
to do it. You mentioned it, so many teams have
had to do it. It's okay to have three cent
it's not a big deal. They'll be fine if they
do that at some point and decide to move on.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
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Speaker 4 (09:36):
We're gonna talk about Lions. Sunday Night Football on NBC
had a thriller.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
There that was a horribly good, fun, terrible game and
the Lions went on a field goal late, but it
was it was really a weird game and that.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Jared golf turned into Jared Tennis. And you know, this
is where a lot of people have always been. And
this is why I always talk about about the m
v P. It just takes one bad night. And I
mentioned this to you, and then you're out of the running.
You're like, this is if you don't if you haven't
won it, or you don't have a track record.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Lamar Jackson, you couldn't be anymore right, meaning if he
were chasing who else is Josh Allen or something? But
he lamar, stuff looks so incredible. And then you have
a night like last night.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Wait, those five interceptions, it's just hard to come back
from that coming like it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Three of them are off a guy's chests where it's
like he threw some that I was like, bruh.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But but we do have Do we have a hot take?
Rob G? All right, here we go listen here, time.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
To rehit an take.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
My chest is out.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
All right, let me see first it's microwave take with
the cup.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I'm gonna take the Texans. You just say they stun
Nico's coming back. I think he misremembers he's bad offense
the Lions.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Man.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
There you have it, fun join your interceptions. Wow, well
I was off I was wrong. I'm admitting that I
was wrong. I said four and Jared Tennis had five.
I was he had five.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
He did.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
But the best part as you ignored the entire estimated
the entire first half of the take.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
No, I picked the Texans. And and and this is
my thing. They a colossal choke job by the Texans.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I don't know. And that have we seen the statusyet,
rob G.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
A team that gets five interceptions and doesn't win the
NFL is almost hard.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
The last thing to do that was believe it or not.
Matt Ryan and the Falcons had did that. I want
to say in twenty eleven that was the year. But
they've done it too. But yeah, usually five receptions, you're
losing you when you Okay, Rob G?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
What else you got. Oh, he gets even worse than that.
You were right on track.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Here's one that makes it even worse if you're a
Texans fans. Teams were three seventy three one and one
when leading by at least fifteen points eight and securing
at least five interceptions.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
It's just unheard.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
When I didn't even sign that many games have been
played in history, that's three hundred. You never want to
be an opposite of a three hundred and seventy three
of anything that is incredible. Three seventy seventy three one
in one. That is absurd, it is, but but that,
but that is how the chances of losing that game.
But here's the big thing.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
And we asked you, you know, what did you take
from this because I heard some takes. Oh, it tells
me about a good team and and them being able
to win when they don't play well. And it's a
reflection of the Lions. And of course I don't see
it that way. And here's the reason why, because of
course they didn't dive deep enough into the Texans to
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really be able to validate that. If you told me
that the Texans were a great second half team, and
my God see see, I always go back to Bill
Belichick and the Super Bowl against the Rams when Jared
Golf was quarterback. They averaged thirty five points that year
and they got three in the Super Bowl. Tells me
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you did something to stop a team like that. The
Greatest show on turf again got stopped in the Super Bowl. Okay,
in this case, the Texans were right on script. The
Lions didn't do anything that no one else has done.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Hear this. They haven't scored a touchdown in the second
half in a month. You hear me in a month.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Coming into Week ten, the Texans were averaging nine point
one points in the second half. They haven't scored a
second half touchdown since Week six. It ain't about the
Lions defense, because whoever they played, the Jets shut them
out in the second.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Half last week.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Right the week before this season, Houston has been outscored
by fifty nine points after halftime, with that differential ranking
ranking them thirty first in the league. So the Lions
didn't do anything special. The Texans did and were who
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we thought they were. They they did what they they
did what they've done all year long. That's why this
was a choke job and not an unbelievable win by
the Lions.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Number one, if everything you just said was true, why'd
you pick the Texans? If you're telling me everything, If
you're telling them they just told you. I did not say.
But if you're saying they don't score the second half,
they don't perceptions, you should score, right. So here's where
I don't understand how you don't give credit to the Lions.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
And five interceptions.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Absolutely, according to Rob g Stats, that means we're going
to lose this game. But I knew in our timestamped
this texted at to a buddy of mine. He was
talking smack about the Lions, and I said, they're gonna
find a way to come back and win this. And
to your point, it wasn't solely just the Lions. It
was that the Texans weren't doing anything with those turnovers.
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If I give you five interceptions, you better do something
with those. And shout out to Aaron Glenn, who I've
had some issues with the defensive coordinator for Lions over
the last years. He had some good games, some bad
games and ben but don't breaks. They were able to
come in there and you saw Dan Campbell looked like
a profit during the interview at a halftime coach, what
do you need to do to get back in this thing?
Our defense is gotta turn somebody and live. While the
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man is gonna say to you at the hend, he
could have said a million things. He literally said, get
a turnover, turn and we just score points. We don't
if we just score points, and he literally called it
right as they're getting an interception. So the issue for
the Texans is they didn't do anything with those. That's
how I knew the Lions were gonna mess this, mess
around and win this thing because Jared Goff, you can't
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keep giving somebody chances. You can't keep giving an offense
chances that has scored a lot and that's leading league
one of the top league points per game. And they
kept giving the offense chances the Lions, and they kept
giving them chances to stick around, and that's what happens.
And you kind of didn't like the point, but I
love the point. On a championship run, you're going to
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have so many close games. You're gonna have games where
you feel like, who we escaped out of that by
the hair on our chinny chin chin. You're gonna have
blowouts you're gonna have games where you come back from behind,
and that's a part of a championship caliber team. They
didn't fold. They didn't say, oh, it was just not
ours tonight. Jared Goff didn't just say, man, it just
ain't my night tonight. He kept telling the team and
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I'm not saying what I think he literally said. He
kept telling the teams, y'all keep keeping me in this.
I'm gonna figure it out. And he did that that
defensive The unit came to ball and I have to
and a kicker who wasn't even in the NFL has
had an amazing season this far at the.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I hope he doesn't miss one of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Fifty fifty two yarder to win it very very great
comeback for me, and I just look at the team
as that's the similar.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Two things happened for two teams.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
We'll talk about the other one later, but two teams
who are the best two teams right now for one,
not one, two and three. They found out how to
win and find a variety of ways to win. And
that's what the championship caliber team does. You're not gonna
be blowing out everybody. It ain't about blowing out people.
What I'm trying to tell you is this is who
the Texans are, the lite. You can't show me what
the Lions did that was different from any other team
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to the Texans in the second half. Well, I gave
you all the numbers. Let's go back. I just gave you.
I gave you all the number. Back to the numbers.
You said they're averaging nine points a game in the
second half.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
The Lions gave them zero nine points.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
No, but they significan get them touchdowns zero zero out them.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Four games, right for us to win this game. They
shut them down to no more points.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Also, you can look at the five interceptions, but they
also gave you back two interceptions, so it's a three
and or so.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
What I'm saying is why to the Lions defense. That's
what I'm saying, Aaron, Aaron Glen Unit. I'm gonna sound that.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I'm saying that the Texans are the same team all year,
which is they don't do anything in the second half.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It is what I'm saying. They didn't.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
It wasn't like this is my point, the Texans are
averaging twenty one points in the second half all year,
or the last four weeks and the Lions shut them out,
and the said, oh my god, the defense was unbelievable.
How did you shut them down? It's just like the
Kansas City Chiefs. They can't score in the red zone.
You want to give Denver all the credit that they
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could that the Chiefs had six points in the second half,
two field goals. This is who the Chiefs are. They
don't score in the red zone. It's what I'm trying
to say to you is that the Lions didn't do
something different to the Chiefs, just like I brought up
the Cowboys. The Cowboys got beat like a drum again.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
This is who they are everybody anytime a team wins.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
They did.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That's not what I said. Literally held them to no points.
They scored thirteen. They didn't fold. They didn't just say,
oh it ain't our game tonight. That happens. They didn't
do what the Ravens have done. How many people the
time said that the Texans show? You think that you
think that? Do you think that people think that Texas
shoke last night or not? I'm sure absolutely people think that.
Check that's a point a Texans show, for sure. It
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ain't what I'm saying is you're making the Texans look
like a horrible team. There.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
They were six and three going into this game. But
I'm giving you the team you did not when they
haven't scored.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
In the second that was gonna touch on the second
half in.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Four weeks, why would you You're not making anything because
I told you Jered Golf was gonna throw four picks.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
So I thought they would cast your man. That's what
I That's why I picked them.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Okay, so I would score nine points a game the
Lions scored that held them to none. The Lions themselves,
who did not have a great first half, turned around
and scored thirteen uh in the second half. So my
point is the Lions did exactly what they were supposed
to do and the Texans, yes, c Out by the way,
has a bunch that he wants to get back.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
He didn't run a.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Quarterback as he was a year ago, and everybody said
they would go on to the Super Bowls. And they're
still a good team. And I would love to be
the coach of this team that I don't think they're
a good team right now.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
No, they're not right now. They're part of a good team.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Is that they've been injured the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
They're just not that good.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But I still I'm saying this team is still a
good team in the future, and even this season, they're
still gonna I wouldn't want to play them. They're still
gonna have some games that they will beat, some teams
that we're gonna say, where'd that come from?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
They still see they shroud look really good. The first half,
he forced a lot. I think he was uncomfortable. I
think he felt like his offensive line was though have
they been earlier in the season. He forced some things.
I think he was freaking out, starting to get scared
back there. But overall, again, I just think you're looking
at the best team in the NFL, a team that
is able to win a multitude of ways, and I
think they don't.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Think they're better than the Ravens. I don't care what
the record is.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I do not, even with their bad defense, I don't
think that they're better than that.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That's fine if you want to pick that. I'm not bad.
The Ravens are the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But I'm looking at the Chiefs and the Lions and
the Ravens at the top three teams, and I'm taking
the Lions over anybody right now, just based off of
the multitude of ways in which they can win. And
I think last night was another night that they were
able to do that. And I was impressed by that
because you kind of go, all right, they're not gonna go,
you know, seven to one.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So if they lost, they lost, and Jared Goff had
five interceptions when you said the seasons over.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
No, would the season be over? Okay, I'm just wait,
that didn't make sense. Like, no, I'm saying that they're
not gonna go undefeated. They're gonna lose. They're probably gonna
lose one to two more again, maybe for the rest
of the season. I don't care as individual one singular
game as opposed to what they've done now for two years,
the second half of two years, this year, last year,
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and this year.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
They look great.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They look like a great team now, they look like
what we expected to how the Chiefs had had that
run where they look like a great team for year
after end, year after end.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Year. All I'm gonna say to you is the Texans
choked in that game because they didn't cash in. You
can't get that mini and the record that robbed you
gave us is proof positive.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You're supposed to win that game. You can't.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
You can't. You can't choke that game down. That's a
choke That's just like when the when the Wars were
up three to one against against the Lakers, I mean
the Calves, you could say, oh my god, Lebron came back.
That's a choke job because guess what, nobody had ever
done it in the history of the NBA. If it's
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if that there jobs in sports, and that's my pool.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
How do you get it done? You have to be participatory.
It's two parts to this. I have to get it
on triple double. Yeah, okay, I'm not disagreeing, but this
participatory thing.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
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Speaker 3 (22:53):
Jump in on Michael Parson. We got sound too. Sure.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
So after the game, obviously everyone's talking about their struggles
and specific with Mike McCarthy because his contracts up at
the end of the season, and there's been a lot
of you know, scuttle but that he could be on
the hot seat, not just at the end of the season,
but even before the season's over. So a reporter asked
Micah his thoughts on the you know, idea of Mike
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McCarthy getting the acts this season during the season. Here's
how we responded.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Mike's on the penal year.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Because contracts are outside, there's of course going to be questions,
what's the sentiment inside the locker room and what do
you tell people who are worrying about what the fl
league of coaching? You know, that's what both of my
pay grade about if Mike is coaching again next year.
But you know, all coaching side coaching. You know, Mike
can leave and go wherever he wants. But the guys
I you know, I kind of feel bad for his
guys like Zach Martin and guys who might be on
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their last year, on their way out, you know, because
that's what I want to go hold a trophy for,
you know, you want to win games and do great
things with those type of legends who put in more time.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And work tho Mike McCarthy ever did.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
So those are the kind of guys that I have
some much senmpathy and hurt for it.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Dude. What what I know, what seriously like like is that.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Like, that's what you're gonna do to Mike McCarty, Like the.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Guy wanted to see me, Mike about to get it
too if Dak Prescott got it to the week before.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
No, But I'm just like, but but you could do
it diplomatically and just say, you know what I mean
the coach situations. Nothing I could really do. You know
what I'm saying, like to dress it up to.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
My prey pay grade. But he was saying the right way.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Then it's about you know, my teammates. I get that
sentiment about the veterans and the teammates, but it just
that's a bad one.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You know what it is? In all honesty, Okay, let's
be fair as journalist and present the other side. It's
his clarification because he said, want to wait it out.
What happened on his interpet? Is there a penalty on
the get that too?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
That too?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I was looking at you, he said, Uh, he tried
to clarify. Rob Z played did this clarification.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
So we try to get the sound on that one
with a little short staff today. Here's what he said though,
in his clarification hours later on his own podcast. Because
you know, Micah is a member of the media now,
so as soon as this clip went viral, he said,
go ahead and check out my podcast and hear what
I gotta say about it. He said, quote, I never
once threw or even intended to throw Mike McCarthy under
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the bus. The question I was asked about here in
the Dallas Cowboys, did I see Mike McCarthy in our future?
I said, that's above my pay grade. Didn't elaborate any
further than that.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Well, the problem.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
The problem is that's the party's not being fair with
He did not stop. I mean, he did not stop there.
He should have stopped. Hey, man, that's above my pray grade.
The locker room absolutely was within his rights to say,
because truth be told, it is above his pay grade.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I ain't paying the man. I don't know what they're
gonna do. That ain't got nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I just know we love that's the game, and I'm
mad for my player. That is exactly where he was going.
The issue with this is you start to have a
lot of guys who have multiple microphones in their face.
And what I mean by that is you're gonna get
the one in front of your locker that's just a
part of the game, right, you're gonna get that one
after a game, you're gonna get the podium.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Hey, come talk.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
But also you keep putting the microphone in front of
your own face, willingly with the podcast or willingly with
the lives. We used to get John Moran in trouble
coating guns in live. If it was toting guns in
his living room by himself with his boys, whatever, we
would have never know is that your totin guns on
Instagram lives. So all these microphones and these cameras that
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keep putting them in their own faces, and that's where
you're going to have blunders.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Rob and I know this.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You keep doing this, He and I are gonna say
something stupid, say something we didn't mean. We do this live,
and there's gonna be something where you didn't mean it
exactly like that. I want to take it back. And
Micah keeps doing this because I gotta have a podcast,
got to answer this question, gotta go on this talk show,
got to do that. And that's where you're gonna get it.
You're not necessarily savvy enough right now. He's still very
young to understand how to get out of questions or
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to answer certain ways, or to make sure your point
is being exactly articulated in the way in which you
want to.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
One of the things I try to do rob when.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It comes to Twitter, which not as much now but
especially historically, I try to take an extra beat and
really ask myself, am I comfortable with what I'm about
to tweet? So that if I ever got a stand
on business with it and look at it and so, oh,
well my boss or somebody, oh you said this, and
I can be like, yo, I'm gonna be real with y'all.
That's exactly how I felt. That's exactly what I meant,
and I stand by that. I want to be able
(27:37):
to do that and not have to bad. Why didn't
mean it? Well, no, I was trying to say, Well,
what I really meant was because no, if you look
at it from this angle, I don't want to do that.
And that's what Michael is doing because he's talking sob
answering his answer and his answers. And you gotta be
savvy enough to know when and when to say things,
and that to me, ignoring dak as a top ten guy,
you know that's gonna get out there bad.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
It's bad, and this is why Look, I'm not of
the school athletes should shut up and play that. That's
that's not what I'm I'm talking about. What's the benefit
to your team and your teammates by putting this out
when you can offend people, make people feel a certain
way towards you, Like, what's the benefit? There is no
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benefit to the team. That's that's the problem I have.
There is no benefit. The Cowboys don't get anything from this.
And if I'm Mike McCarthy, really let's see, this is
how like you would just be like, there's no reason
to do it.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Mike McCarthy's still your head coach.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And yeah, and that's still your quarterbacks, still your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
What what are you trying to say or do that you?
What do you get from this? It's just like self inflicted.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Now, you know what?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
You know what a phrase shout out to Mama Dub.
Mama Dub always says, just because you can done mean
and shit.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
And this is what I've been saying. This is why
you we talked about a little bit before. This is
why you should trade him. You should just he might
not and you first of all, you can get a
haul from him because he's a talented player. Okay, so
this is not I'm gonna disparage him. I'm gonna do
a Sean Payton on him and all that. No, this
(29:18):
guy can play, but you're not going anywhere. You got
so many holes on this Dallas Cowboy team.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
If you can.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Get a couple of picks, top picks for him, Remember
they got to sign him, right, They just signed a
quarterback and the wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes, and both of them make big money, and he's
due to get paid. I would I would move on.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I would just say, you know what, as good as
he is, we need more players. And he's just become
a distraction. He's becoming that. And again, the worst part
about this is self inflicted. He's doing this to himself.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
The way again in which he's answering questions, the way
he's got his podcast.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
He's talking about this and that.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Now, to be fair to Micah, Dallas ain't nothing but
a bunch of distractions. Ceedee Lamb talking about the sun
in my eyes, Jerry Jones mad about him. Well, build
a whole new building the suns in everybody's eyes. So
you got Jerry Jones mad a CD CD mad at
Dack dak ain't mad at cd, CD mad at Dack,
but they not mad with best friends now Jerry Jones
trying to get radio people fired, like the Dallas comp.
You know what it is, It's the show Dallas. It
(30:23):
is nothing but the eighty sitcoms or drama Dallas, and
Micah is now adding into the unnecessary self afflicted wounds
that have become the Dallas can. Matter of fact, can
we not talk Can that'd be a platform I run
on if I was running for a political office. Can
we not talk about then? Can we not talk about
the Can we only talk about Rob Parker? Teams that
(30:43):
actually deserve it? Like you mentioned the Steelers right justin Fields.
I was high on him, Russell Willson playing well. I
am comfortable talking about him. The Lions they deserve it,
The Ravens one that you know what I mean, The
Bills can get I'm tired of talking about the Cowboys.
I want to reclaim my time. Shout out to the Cockers
with Maxine Waters. Can I reclaim my time? As she said,
all the time that we got to talk about the
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Cowboys undeservedly.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So period. I'm sorry, I digress. My guys, they ain't
did nothing to deserve it.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I just say that I just think at some point,
like how in the world is Micah like either you
gotta be more mature, but I just don't see the
path long term because of the financial obligation that you
owe a guy like him, and you just and you
need so many things. Look at your defense. Every week.
(31:36):
They're giving up thirty four to thirty five forty points
every week. This is a team that won sixteen straight
home games. The worst the same thing.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
The worst part about it, too, is that if they
were to decide to go with what you're saying, they're
getting rid of arguably the actual most talented player, the guy,
the guy you can for the most part, nobody, nobody
has a perfect game every game, but the guy you
can kind of depend on. And that's the worst part
about this is that they're gonna have to get rid
of the guy.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
With him, they can't stop anybody. And that's the scary part,
is what I'm trying to say. Because they got so
many wholes.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I think they're gonna their excuse is gonna be at
the off season for them, is gonna they're gonna say, well,
we weren't healthy, we didn't have DeMarcus Lawrence. We didn't
have mic and for most season we didn't have uh
the come forget the cornerback's name. Right now, they're gonna
be able to say we didn't have these guys? Boy,
what could have been?
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Have we?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Now? You know what I mean when you try to
make that excuse, that built in thing for yourself, we
all do it. I'm going to the jam because all
I met my car was acting up, so I go
to jail.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
We were talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
But even coming in we knew that they didn't do
enough in the off season, Like people said, what do
the Cowboys do? They didn't do any anything. They needed
to run, They waited to CD. They wouldn't needed a
running back. They don't want to sign Derek Henry. He's available.
He wanted to play in Texas. Wanted to go back.
Oh yeah, they didn't want to get Hollered, right, And
instead they go back and get Ezekiel Elliott because she's mad.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
He ain't showing up for practices. To me, he's they
left him out, He left left him at Homie. It's
just it's just a bad situation overall. In doubts right now,
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
The Jets, you can say that plan hands landed. I
don't even know if it ever took off. That jet
ain't go. It might have just been stuck on a runway.
This thing is all types of bad right now when
you look at what's going on with the offense.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
One of the things I've mentioned.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
When we talked about the offense on the D, the defense,
the team as a whole, one of the things I
look at all the way it is they I don't
mind we've talked about this before. You see it in
any sport, especially like for instance, you see it in
the NBA with the Lebron led team. Right you kind
of mortgage everything. You say, we're gonna do this, We're
gonna get move coaches, we're gonna go get some rich
Paul guys. We're gonna do whatever we're gonna do when
(01:04):
we're gonna mortgage our future with this player. That's what
the just did with Aaron Rodgers, and I'm actually not
mad at it. He's a Hall of Famer who has
had an amazing career, and they thought they were a
guy away, so they took the risk, they took the
calculator risk and said we'll pretty much provide everything for him,
and it just hasn't worked out. And now it's to
the place where I'm glad that it's we're here so
(01:25):
that we can move on, because after ten weeks the
offense looks the same as it has with Zach Wilson.
If they're literally one point more, one point more than
when they had Zach Wilson. The they haven't had any
more yards. They have like eight literally eight more yards
than when they had Zach Wilson. They've went out and
got DeVante Adams is not working. They've got Green Bay
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receivers that's not working. They've changed coaches, it's not working.
They've changed offensive coordinators. It's not working. They have gone
down the entire checklist of what you can do to
make this a better situation and its not work And
so at this point they have to start thinking about
the future.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
What are we going to do moving forward?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
How can we press the reset button, Like when you're
losing to a kid and they all of a sudden
snatched the court out or hit the reset button on
a video game council. It's that time for the Jets
to go ahead and hit reset at the end of
this season.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And figure out what's going to work.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Because defensively they're not great like they had been in
the last few years. Offensively they're trash, which doesn't make sense.
If on paper I told you all the players they have,
you would think, oh, this team is putting up points.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Their not offensive line.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Is bad, they can't run the football, and Aaron Rodgers
is coming off of a major injury.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But they but that all is excuses in the NFL.
But that's what But that's those are facts though.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
But it's just like I'm just saying, if you don't
have an offensive line, I don't care who's the quarterback.
You got to protect the forty year old quarterback. You
got to be able to run the ball forty year
old gall Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You got to be able to do other things so
that it works if.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You don't protect them like they didn't in in the
first game ever, where it was hurried three out of
the four snaps and he wound up getting hurt on
one of the snaps. And if you don't have those things,
I never thought this would work, but I understand why
they did it.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I just said, the franchise that has won a Super
Bowl nineteen sixty.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Nine, I just said, mortgage. They're not going to reset
until after the season is over. They got to see
if if there's any kind of salvaging and seeing if
this progresses. Because you can still draft a quarterback, but
no one on the Jets or Jets fans are looking
at some fun They've drafted Sam Darnold, Zach Wilson, They've
(03:43):
they've they've drafted, uh, who's the other guy in Seattle.
I'm just forgetting Smith, Gino Smith. They've drafted like nine quarterbacks.
So you can sit here and go, well, they're gonna
start all over again doing that.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
But they're not going to until after the season.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I literally said, at the end of the season and
you yanked the court, how you press reset on the
game council? You start over and organizationally, you have to
figure something out.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
What's our ethos? What do we believe in?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They broke all them gonip So they're gonna have.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
To just like just like the Lions didn't win for
fifty years. Bad ownership, yep, bad gms. Right, you you
experienced it, you watched it some teams. If you don't
have those people in place, it doesn't matter. You still
do the same thing over and over. That's what I'm
literally saying.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They have to find the way to resetting and completely
can change the ethos.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
That's what the Lions did.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
They finally got some better ownership, They finally got some
better right, and they find the Jets did nothing since
sixty whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But the Jets have won a Super Bowl. Let's can
we the Lions sixty whatever? The Lions have never been
to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Why are you telling me what they did with Joe
Namath who is literally eighty something.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
But I'm just saying, you're an organization, a caver never
only Matt No, no, do you know that the Lions
are only franchise and they're the only team that want it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Okay, but we're talking about the Jets who have equally
done nothing they want it with Joe Namath. That's if
that's what you're hanging your head on. What are we
doing this about.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
There are three teams that don't have a Super Bowl
and I'm just telling you the Lions are one of them.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Who looks like they're way closer to winning one.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, but I'm just trying to look like in the
Curse Modern No no, no no, But they haven't won, and.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
My pool looks like they're set to win one if
in the next five years at least compete for one.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I don't get what I'm saying to you, And what
I'm saying is bad organizations. This stuff can happen for
a long time because I saw it in Detroit. I
saw them hire Matt Millen. I saw them do the
same thing, draft the same wide receiver. I saw them
do higher dumb coaches and guys who were not good
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over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And I'm trying to say, I'm confused with what you
saying because I'm agreeing. I'm saying the Lionys finally got
it right and get them finally having an ethos away
about it.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
But now the running what I'll never do is I'll
never take away a team. You could, you could discount
Joe Namath and them winning. That is one of the
biggest Super Bowl wins by any team in any franchise
because it be Baltimore Colts.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
My point, it was so long ago.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
There the Indianapolis goes down about the Baltimore Coats.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
What's your history?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
What you don't know is that forced the merger between
the AFL and the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
That's how earth shattering it will pray. I'm just trying
to tell you. Don't hear it. I hear you'll this
guy pray.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
No one ever has to justify Kelvin's success by telling
me something I did in nineteen whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Context, col context cannot discount it as well.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Tell you, I don't want to talk about the championship
brought that up. I don't want to what you brought
a name it is eighty years old. Let me know
when you're done, because you literally everything. There's nothing in the.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
NF with the Packers, none of that matters like in
the in the early days of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
What I'm saying is we're trying to the trophy named
after Should we take Vincent to take his name off
because because he's.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
You can't keep bringing that up.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
If you want to try to take away from the
fact that Aaron Rodgers stinks, he absolutely stinks. You can
bring up Joe Namath if you want, you can bring
up Johnny.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
It's just a crusty trying to give me some I'm
to give you some education.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I don't need that. We all know that they beat
Johnny Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I'm not gonna let you discount a super Bowl when
your team has never won one.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Stick lion about the line. They haven't won. Last year,
they choked that in the Nfship Game.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You can you take choked it that because I didn't
bring up the Lions. He did because you brought the
take when he brought up the Lions.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Can you bring up to take when he told me
about the nineteen Steve whatever. The Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I'm talking the biggest Super Bowl upsets in the.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
History of this league.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
It is the it is it is what forced the
merger between the NFL and the AS.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Let me know what you're done talking about the Civil War.
Let me know you're.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Talking about history. It is a part of my history.
Don't beat us, Johnny, come lately.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
What happened last week in the greatest how about I
haven't won anything.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
So stop. Why did you bring the Lions? Because that's
what Rob Parker, Literally, I love these.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
The Lion all right, literally won the game today, would
have five interceptions and the other team going to second
alb won the Super Bowl last night.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
And I'm gonna disco.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Johnny Cochran and Rod Parker when it comes to defense
attorneys because I brought up that. I brought up nothing
about anything. All I simply said was the Jets whole
situation has been horrific, case, completely horrid, and they need
to reset.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That's all I say. Oh, you did correct me when
I saw.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Joe Namath is eighty years old after you brought him up.
Let me tell you who is not on my mind,
Joe Namath. You brought up Joe Namath. They absolutely need
to pull the plug. And it's okay. The Lions had
to do it. You mentioned it, so many teams have
had to do it. It's okay to have three cent
it's not a big deal. They'll be fine if they
do that at some point and decide to move on.
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Speaker 4 (09:36):
We're gonna talk about Lions. Sunday Night Football on NBC
had a thriller.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
There that was a horribly good, fun, terrible game and
the Lions went on a field goal late, but it
was it was really a weird game and that.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Jared golf turned into Jared Tennis. And you know, this
is where a lot of people have always been. And
this is why I always talk about about the m
v P. It just takes one bad night. And I
mentioned this to you, and then you're out of the running.
You're like, this is if you don't if you haven't
won it, or you don't have a track record.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Lamar Jackson, you couldn't be anymore right, meaning if he
were chasing who else is Josh Allen or something? But
he lamar, stuff looks so incredible. And then you have
a night like last night.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Wait, those five interceptions, it's just hard to come back
from that coming like it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Three of them are off a guy's chests where it's
like he threw some that I was like, bruh.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But but we do have Do we have a hot take?
Rob G? All right, here we go listen here, time.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
To rehit an take.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
My chest is out.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
All right, let me see first it's microwave take with
the cup.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I'm gonna take the Texans. You just say they stun
Nico's coming back. I think he misremembers he's bad offense
the Lions.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Man.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
There you have it, fun join your interceptions. Wow, well
I was off I was wrong. I'm admitting that I
was wrong. I said four and Jared Tennis had five.
I was he had five.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
He did.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
But the best part as you ignored the entire estimated
the entire first half of the take.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
No, I picked the Texans. And and and this is
my thing. They a colossal choke job by the Texans.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I don't know. And that have we seen the statusyet,
rob G.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
A team that gets five interceptions and doesn't win the
NFL is almost hard.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
The last thing to do that was believe it or not.
Matt Ryan and the Falcons had did that. I want
to say in twenty eleven that was the year. But
they've done it too. But yeah, usually five receptions, you're
losing you when you Okay, Rob G?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
What else you got. Oh, he gets even worse than that.
You were right on track.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Here's one that makes it even worse if you're a
Texans fans. Teams were three seventy three one and one
when leading by at least fifteen points eight and securing
at least five interceptions.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
It's just unheard.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
When I didn't even sign that many games have been
played in history, that's three hundred. You never want to
be an opposite of a three hundred and seventy three
of anything that is incredible. Three seventy seventy three one
in one. That is absurd, it is, but but that,
but that is how the chances of losing that game.
But here's the big thing.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
And we asked you, you know, what did you take
from this because I heard some takes. Oh, it tells
me about a good team and and them being able
to win when they don't play well. And it's a
reflection of the Lions. And of course I don't see
it that way. And here's the reason why, because of
course they didn't dive deep enough into the Texans to
(12:45):
really be able to validate that. If you told me
that the Texans were a great second half team, and
my God see see, I always go back to Bill
Belichick and the Super Bowl against the Rams when Jared
Golf was quarterback. They averaged thirty five points that year
and they got three in the Super Bowl. Tells me
(13:06):
you did something to stop a team like that. The
Greatest show on turf again got stopped in the Super Bowl. Okay,
in this case, the Texans were right on script. The
Lions didn't do anything that no one else has done.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Hear this. They haven't scored a touchdown in the second
half in a month. You hear me in a month.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Coming into Week ten, the Texans were averaging nine point
one points in the second half. They haven't scored a
second half touchdown since Week six. It ain't about the
Lions defense, because whoever they played, the Jets shut them
out in the second.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Half last week.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Right the week before this season, Houston has been outscored
by fifty nine points after halftime, with that differential ranking
ranking them thirty first in the league. So the Lions
didn't do anything special. The Texans did and were who
(14:12):
we thought they were. They they did what they they
did what they've done all year long. That's why this
was a choke job and not an unbelievable win by
the Lions.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Number one, if everything you just said was true, why'd
you pick the Texans? If you're telling me everything, If
you're telling them they just told you. I did not say.
But if you're saying they don't score the second half,
they don't perceptions, you should score, right. So here's where
I don't understand how you don't give credit to the Lions.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
And five interceptions.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Absolutely, according to Rob g Stats, that means we're going
to lose this game. But I knew in our timestamped
this texted at to a buddy of mine. He was
talking smack about the Lions, and I said, they're gonna
find a way to come back and win this. And
to your point, it wasn't solely just the Lions. It
was that the Texans weren't doing anything with those turnovers.
(15:06):
If I give you five interceptions, you better do something
with those. And shout out to Aaron Glenn, who I've
had some issues with the defensive coordinator for Lions over
the last years. He had some good games, some bad
games and ben but don't breaks. They were able to
come in there and you saw Dan Campbell looked like
a profit during the interview at a halftime coach, what
do you need to do to get back in this thing?
Our defense is gotta turn somebody and live. While the
(15:29):
man is gonna say to you at the hend, he
could have said a million things. He literally said, get
a turnover, turn and we just score points. We don't
if we just score points, and he literally called it
right as they're getting an interception. So the issue for
the Texans is they didn't do anything with those. That's
how I knew the Lions were gonna mess this, mess
around and win this thing because Jared Goff, you can't
(15:52):
keep giving somebody chances. You can't keep giving an offense
chances that has scored a lot and that's leading league
one of the top league points per game. And they
kept giving the offense chances the Lions, and they kept
giving them chances to stick around, and that's what happens.
And you kind of didn't like the point, but I
love the point. On a championship run, you're going to
(16:12):
have so many close games. You're gonna have games where
you feel like, who we escaped out of that by
the hair on our chinny chin chin. You're gonna have
blowouts you're gonna have games where you come back from behind,
and that's a part of a championship caliber team. They
didn't fold. They didn't say, oh, it was just not
ours tonight. Jared Goff didn't just say, man, it just
ain't my night tonight. He kept telling the team and
(16:33):
I'm not saying what I think he literally said. He
kept telling the teams, y'all keep keeping me in this.
I'm gonna figure it out. And he did that that
defensive The unit came to ball and I have to
and a kicker who wasn't even in the NFL has
had an amazing season this far at the.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I hope he doesn't miss one of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Fifty fifty two yarder to win it very very great
comeback for me, and I just look at the team
as that's the similar.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Two things happened for two teams.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
We'll talk about the other one later, but two teams
who are the best two teams right now for one,
not one, two and three. They found out how to
win and find a variety of ways to win. And
that's what the championship caliber team does. You're not gonna
be blowing out everybody. It ain't about blowing out people.
What I'm trying to tell you is this is who
the Texans are, the lite. You can't show me what
the Lions did that was different from any other team
(17:23):
to the Texans in the second half. Well, I gave
you all the numbers. Let's go back. I just gave you.
I gave you all the number. Back to the numbers.
You said they're averaging nine points a game in the
second half.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
The Lions gave them zero nine points.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
No, but they significan get them touchdowns zero zero out them.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Four games, right for us to win this game. They
shut them down to no more points.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Also, you can look at the five interceptions, but they
also gave you back two interceptions, so it's a three
and or so.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
What I'm saying is why to the Lions defense. That's
what I'm saying, Aaron, Aaron Glen Unit. I'm gonna sound that.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I'm saying that the Texans are the same team all year,
which is they don't do anything in the second half.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It is what I'm saying. They didn't.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
It wasn't like this is my point, the Texans are
averaging twenty one points in the second half all year,
or the last four weeks and the Lions shut them out,
and the said, oh my god, the defense was unbelievable.
How did you shut them down? It's just like the
Kansas City Chiefs. They can't score in the red zone.
You want to give Denver all the credit that they
(18:31):
could that the Chiefs had six points in the second half,
two field goals. This is who the Chiefs are. They
don't score in the red zone. It's what I'm trying
to say to you is that the Lions didn't do
something different to the Chiefs, just like I brought up
the Cowboys. The Cowboys got beat like a drum again.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
This is who they are everybody anytime a team wins.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
They did.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That's not what I said. Literally held them to no points.
They scored thirteen. They didn't fold. They didn't just say,
oh it ain't our game tonight. That happens. They didn't
do what the Ravens have done. How many people the
time said that the Texans show? You think that you
think that? Do you think that people think that Texas
shoke last night or not? I'm sure absolutely people think that.
Check that's a point a Texans show, for sure. It
(19:21):
ain't what I'm saying is you're making the Texans look
like a horrible team. There.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
They were six and three going into this game. But
I'm giving you the team you did not when they
haven't scored.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
In the second that was gonna touch on the second
half in.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Four weeks, why would you You're not making anything because
I told you Jered Golf was gonna throw four picks.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
So I thought they would cast your man. That's what
I That's why I picked them.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Okay, so I would score nine points a game the
Lions scored that held them to none. The Lions themselves,
who did not have a great first half, turned around
and scored thirteen uh in the second half. So my
point is the Lions did exactly what they were supposed
to do and the Texans, yes, c Out by the way,
has a bunch that he wants to get back.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
He didn't run a.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Quarterback as he was a year ago, and everybody said
they would go on to the Super Bowls. And they're
still a good team. And I would love to be
the coach of this team that I don't think they're
a good team right now.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
No, they're not right now. They're part of a good team.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Is that they've been injured the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
They're just not that good.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But I still I'm saying this team is still a
good team in the future, and even this season, they're
still gonna I wouldn't want to play them. They're still
gonna have some games that they will beat, some teams
that we're gonna say, where'd that come from?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
They still see they shroud look really good. The first half,
he forced a lot. I think he was uncomfortable. I
think he felt like his offensive line was though have
they been earlier in the season. He forced some things.
I think he was freaking out, starting to get scared
back there. But overall, again, I just think you're looking
at the best team in the NFL, a team that
is able to win a multitude of ways, and I
think they don't.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Think they're better than the Ravens. I don't care what
the record is.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I do not, even with their bad defense, I don't
think that they're better than that.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That's fine if you want to pick that. I'm not bad.
The Ravens are the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But I'm looking at the Chiefs and the Lions and
the Ravens at the top three teams, and I'm taking
the Lions over anybody right now, just based off of
the multitude of ways in which they can win. And
I think last night was another night that they were
able to do that. And I was impressed by that
because you kind of go, all right, they're not gonna go,
you know, seven to one.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So if they lost, they lost, and Jared Goff had
five interceptions when you said the seasons over.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
No, would the season be over? Okay, I'm just wait,
that didn't make sense. Like, no, I'm saying that they're
not gonna go undefeated. They're gonna lose. They're probably gonna
lose one to two more again, maybe for the rest
of the season. I don't care as individual one singular
game as opposed to what they've done now for two years,
the second half of two years, this year, last year,
(21:40):
and this year.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
They look great.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They look like a great team now, they look like
what we expected to how the Chiefs had had that
run where they look like a great team for year
after end, year after end.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Year. All I'm gonna say to you is the Texans
choked in that game because they didn't cash in. You
can't get that mini and the record that robbed you
gave us is proof positive.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You're supposed to win that game. You can't.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
You can't. You can't choke that game down. That's a
choke That's just like when the when the Wars were
up three to one against against the Lakers, I mean
the Calves, you could say, oh my god, Lebron came back.
That's a choke job because guess what, nobody had ever
done it in the history of the NBA. If it's
(22:25):
if that there jobs in sports, and that's my pool.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
How do you get it done? You have to be participatory.
It's two parts to this. I have to get it
on triple double. Yeah, okay, I'm not disagreeing, but this
participatory thing.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
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Speaker 3 (22:53):
Jump in on Michael Parson. We got sound too. Sure.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
So after the game, obviously everyone's talking about their struggles
and specific with Mike McCarthy because his contracts up at
the end of the season, and there's been a lot
of you know, scuttle but that he could be on
the hot seat, not just at the end of the season,
but even before the season's over. So a reporter asked
Micah his thoughts on the you know, idea of Mike
(23:16):
McCarthy getting the acts this season during the season. Here's
how we responded.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Mike's on the penal year.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Because contracts are outside, there's of course going to be questions,
what's the sentiment inside the locker room and what do
you tell people who are worrying about what the fl
league of coaching? You know, that's what both of my
pay grade about if Mike is coaching again next year.
But you know, all coaching side coaching. You know, Mike
can leave and go wherever he wants. But the guys
I you know, I kind of feel bad for his
guys like Zach Martin and guys who might be on
(23:45):
their last year, on their way out, you know, because
that's what I want to go hold a trophy for,
you know, you want to win games and do great
things with those type of legends who put in more time.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And work tho Mike McCarthy ever did.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
So those are the kind of guys that I have
some much senmpathy and hurt for it.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Dude. What what I know, what seriously like like is that.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Like, that's what you're gonna do to Mike McCarty, Like the.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Guy wanted to see me, Mike about to get it
too if Dak Prescott got it to the week before.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
No, But I'm just like, but but you could do
it diplomatically and just say, you know what I mean
the coach situations. Nothing I could really do. You know
what I'm saying, like to dress it up to.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
My prey pay grade. But he was saying the right way.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Then it's about you know, my teammates. I get that
sentiment about the veterans and the teammates, but it just
that's a bad one.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You know what it is? In all honesty, Okay, let's
be fair as journalist and present the other side. It's
his clarification because he said, want to wait it out.
What happened on his interpet? Is there a penalty on
the get that too?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
That too?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I was looking at you, he said, Uh, he tried
to clarify. Rob Z played did this clarification.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
So we try to get the sound on that one
with a little short staff today. Here's what he said though,
in his clarification hours later on his own podcast. Because
you know, Micah is a member of the media now,
so as soon as this clip went viral, he said,
go ahead and check out my podcast and hear what
I gotta say about it. He said, quote, I never
once threw or even intended to throw Mike McCarthy under
(25:26):
the bus. The question I was asked about here in
the Dallas Cowboys, did I see Mike McCarthy in our future?
I said, that's above my pay grade. Didn't elaborate any
further than that.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Well, the problem.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
The problem is that's the party's not being fair with
He did not stop. I mean, he did not stop there.
He should have stopped. Hey, man, that's above my pray grade.
The locker room absolutely was within his rights to say,
because truth be told, it is above his pay grade.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I ain't paying the man. I don't know what they're
gonna do. That ain't got nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I just know we love that's the game, and I'm
mad for my player. That is exactly where he was going.
The issue with this is you start to have a
lot of guys who have multiple microphones in their face.
And what I mean by that is you're gonna get
the one in front of your locker that's just a
part of the game, right, you're gonna get that one
after a game, you're gonna get the podium.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Hey, come talk.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
But also you keep putting the microphone in front of
your own face, willingly with the podcast or willingly with
the lives. We used to get John Moran in trouble
coating guns in live. If it was toting guns in
his living room by himself with his boys, whatever, we
would have never know is that your totin guns on
Instagram lives. So all these microphones and these cameras that
(26:39):
keep putting them in their own faces, and that's where
you're going to have blunders.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Rob and I know this.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You keep doing this, He and I are gonna say
something stupid, say something we didn't mean. We do this live,
and there's gonna be something where you didn't mean it
exactly like that. I want to take it back. And
Micah keeps doing this because I gotta have a podcast,
got to answer this question, gotta go on this talk show,
got to do that. And that's where you're gonna get it.
You're not necessarily savvy enough right now. He's still very
young to understand how to get out of questions or
(27:06):
to answer certain ways, or to make sure your point
is being exactly articulated in the way in which you
want to.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
One of the things I try to do rob when.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It comes to Twitter, which not as much now but
especially historically, I try to take an extra beat and
really ask myself, am I comfortable with what I'm about
to tweet? So that if I ever got a stand
on business with it and look at it and so, oh,
well my boss or somebody, oh you said this, and
I can be like, yo, I'm gonna be real with y'all.
That's exactly how I felt. That's exactly what I meant,
and I stand by that. I want to be able
(27:37):
to do that and not have to bad. Why didn't
mean it? Well, no, I was trying to say, Well,
what I really meant was because no, if you look
at it from this angle, I don't want to do that.
And that's what Michael is doing because he's talking sob
answering his answer and his answers. And you gotta be
savvy enough to know when and when to say things,
and that to me, ignoring dak as a top ten guy,
you know that's gonna get out there bad.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
It's bad, and this is why Look, I'm not of
the school athletes should shut up and play that. That's
that's not what I'm I'm talking about. What's the benefit
to your team and your teammates by putting this out
when you can offend people, make people feel a certain
way towards you, Like, what's the benefit? There is no
(28:22):
benefit to the team. That's that's the problem I have.
There is no benefit. The Cowboys don't get anything from this.
And if I'm Mike McCarthy, really let's see, this is
how like you would just be like, there's no reason
to do it.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Mike McCarthy's still your head coach.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And yeah, and that's still your quarterbacks, still your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
What what are you trying to say or do that you?
What do you get from this? It's just like self inflicted.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Now, you know what?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
You know what a phrase shout out to Mama Dub.
Mama Dub always says, just because you can done mean
and shit.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
And this is what I've been saying. This is why
you we talked about a little bit before. This is
why you should trade him. You should just he might
not and you first of all, you can get a
haul from him because he's a talented player. Okay, so
this is not I'm gonna disparage him. I'm gonna do
a Sean Payton on him and all that. No, this
(29:18):
guy can play, but you're not going anywhere. You got
so many holes on this Dallas Cowboy team.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
If you can.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Get a couple of picks, top picks for him, Remember
they got to sign him, right, They just signed a
quarterback and the wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes, and both of them make big money, and he's
due to get paid. I would I would move on.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I would just say, you know what, as good as
he is, we need more players. And he's just become
a distraction. He's becoming that. And again, the worst part
about this is self inflicted. He's doing this to himself.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
The way again in which he's answering questions, the way
he's got his podcast.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
He's talking about this and that.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Now, to be fair to Micah, Dallas ain't nothing but
a bunch of distractions. Ceedee Lamb talking about the sun
in my eyes, Jerry Jones mad about him. Well, build
a whole new building the suns in everybody's eyes. So
you got Jerry Jones mad a CD CD mad at
Dack dak ain't mad at cd, CD mad at Dack,
but they not mad with best friends now Jerry Jones
trying to get radio people fired, like the Dallas comp.
You know what it is, It's the show Dallas. It
(30:23):
is nothing but the eighty sitcoms or drama Dallas, and
Micah is now adding into the unnecessary self afflicted wounds
that have become the Dallas can. Matter of fact, can
we not talk Can that'd be a platform I run
on if I was running for a political office. Can
we not talk about then? Can we not talk about
the Can we only talk about Rob Parker? Teams that
(30:43):
actually deserve it? Like you mentioned the Steelers right justin Fields.
I was high on him, Russell Willson playing well. I
am comfortable talking about him. The Lions they deserve it,
The Ravens one that you know what I mean, The
Bills can get I'm tired of talking about the Cowboys.
I want to reclaim my time. Shout out to the Cockers
with Maxine Waters. Can I reclaim my time? As she said,
all the time that we got to talk about the
(31:04):
Cowboys undeservedly.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So period. I'm sorry, I digress. My guys, they ain't
did nothing to deserve it.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I just say that I just think at some point,
like how in the world is Micah like either you
gotta be more mature, but I just don't see the
path long term because of the financial obligation that you
owe a guy like him, and you just and you
need so many things. Look at your defense. Every week.
(31:36):
They're giving up thirty four to thirty five forty points
every week. This is a team that won sixteen straight
home games. The worst the same thing.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
The worst part about it, too, is that if they
were to decide to go with what you're saying, they're
getting rid of arguably the actual most talented player, the guy,
the guy you can for the most part, nobody, nobody
has a perfect game every game, but the guy you
can kind of depend on. And that's the worst part
about this is that they're gonna have to get rid
of the guy.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
With him, they can't stop anybody. And that's the scary part,
is what I'm trying to say. Because they got so
many wholes.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I think they're gonna their excuse is gonna be at
the off season for them, is gonna they're gonna say, well,
we weren't healthy, we didn't have DeMarcus Lawrence. We didn't
have mic and for most season we didn't have uh
the come forget the cornerback's name. Right now, they're gonna
be able to say we didn't have these guys? Boy,
what could have been?
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Have we?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Now? You know what I mean when you try to
make that excuse, that built in thing for yourself, we
all do it. I'm going to the jam because all
I met my car was acting up, so I go
to jail.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
We were talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
But even coming in we knew that they didn't do
enough in the off season, Like people said, what do
the Cowboys do? They didn't do any anything. They needed
to run, They waited to CD. They wouldn't needed a
running back. They don't want to sign Derek Henry. He's available.
He wanted to play in Texas. Wanted to go back.
Oh yeah, they didn't want to get Hollered, right, And
instead they go back and get Ezekiel Elliott because she's mad.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
He ain't showing up for practices. To me, he's they
left him out, He left left him at Homie. It's
just it's just a bad situation overall. In doubts right now,
Man
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