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Just had a spirited trash talking uh.
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Soldier Boy took some shot to the trash Talking Tuesday.
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I ain't see that coming.
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I know, good old Mace he will throw it out
to you, man, that's what he does.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, that was that. It was a spirited one too.
We got some some NBA action.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Obviously we've been talking about the NBA Cup with being one.
Also we got the NBA kind of the the rematcher
if you would not have the rematch, but the return home
of Clay Thompson, going back to the Warriors, where of
course he spent so many years, winning a bunch of
rings and being in some wonderful games in NBA finals.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Now with the Mavericks, they're being their sharpshooter, Rob. I know,
all right, you got some thoughts about this.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
If I was in San Francisco tonight and they announced
that Clay Thompson, you know, with the Dallas Mavericks, they
announced him, and if I was writing a column in
San Francisco, my column would read stand up and boo
Clay Thompson. Yes, I know he helped you win four championships.
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I get it, but what this guy did at the
end is unforgivable. And what I'm gonna say is, why
in the world would Clay Thompson not want to retire
a Golden State Warrior, be with Steph, be with Draymond
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for the entire run, and instead he let his ego
get in a way, the Warriors were very good to him.
He was hurt twice with two major injuries, and he
made his money. In fact, Kelvin, here's why Warrior fans
should be mad at him. He got offered a contract
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before the season last year, which was two years, forty
eight million. Okay, this is before the twenty twenty three,
twenty twenty fourth season.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
This summer, he signs.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
A three year deal for just fifty million dollars, so
another whole year and two million dollars more.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
That's because he did it because of spite.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Sometimes you need to look at your legacy, look where
you fit in. They stood by your side when he
had those major injuries, and he's not the same player.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You can't blame that on the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
They didn't throw you out and say no, man, here's
five million dollars, take it or leave it. They offered
him more money than he's getting now to go play
for Dallas. Why do that to your legacy, that team's
legacy and the idea that all three of them could
have played their careers there and retired together having something
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very special. He did it for no reason. The Dallas Mavericks. Really,
why would you care about the Dallas Mavericks. They're bumps
in a family, things don't go right, you have each
other's back. He didn't play well. How about that stretch
where he got bent, he couldn't make any shots. Did
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the Warriors totally say get out of here, We're gonna
release you.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Sometimes sometimes in life you're not the same, But there
is something about staying together.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I always say this.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I think Tom brady money mistake leaving the Patriots. I
love that Derek Jeter played all twenty years with the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
One team.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
He could have gone and played for the Flora the
Miami Marlins at the end of his career. He could
have played another year or two, put on a different uniform.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think Clay Thompson made a big mistake.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And if I was in the arena in San Francisco,
what is it the Chase Center, I'd be standing up
and booing tonight.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
All right, So I want to work backwards. Let's start backwards.
Let's start with the bowing tonight.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Stop it. Rob ain't nobody listening to you. You don't mean
that first.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Sure, he ain't getting bowed number one, because of what
you just said. This is family, and family knows. Sometimes
you talk out of pocket, sometimes you have a moment.
Sometimes you absolutely got beside yourself. And he deserves that applause.
He deserves being a fighter, being fought back from those injuries.
Be a part of this rebuild of this team from
what they used to be, whether it was the eighth
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nine version, whether it was the run TMC and building
up what now has been one of the great dynasties
of the NBA. Now where I agree is Klay Thompson
felt himself way more than he should have. And this
is where Clay started to have some issues. Number one
s Clay started to get preoccupied with his legacy in
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the middle of his career, in the middle of a run,
in the middle of dog we trying to continue to
win as many rings as possible. Remember Rob, He started
to talking about, man, they disrespected me. I ain't top
seventy five players of all time. First of all, you're
not and I love you, but you're not. If guys
like Dwight Howard, if guys like Kyrie.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Didn't make it.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
You don't make the top seventy five, Clay. But he
started caring about things that didn't matter top seventy five
players every time he got into it with some young
rising star four rings, four rings, four rings, to the
point where even he admitted, I'm getting beside. That's just
a young man feeling himself having a good game. I
probably shouldn't do that. I'm starting to become that old
grumpy guy. I don't like he said that he lost
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sight of what mattered. What made this team great is
starting from their best player Curry being selfless.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Kevin Durant Cubs, Hey, I'll take a back seat four minute.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
All right, yeah, yeah, no choice though.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Oh Kevin Durant's a better player. But what I mean
is be ingratiated him. He brought him in be a
part of this. What makes this team great is that
they have unity. What made this team great was they
checked their ego at the door, and that's what made
this team spectacular. And of all the people, kind of
the most quiet one, you thought, Clay started to become
the disgruntled one, always talking about this. I'm not playing
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I should be starting again. Four rains top seventy five players.
People forgot about me, and a lot of that came
from him being hurt with all those injuries and him
realizing subconsciously or to himself privately, I know I'm not
the player I once was and I know I never
will be. And I think he battled that, and I
can understand that we all had to battle some things
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in our life, and I think that was tough for him.
But Clay did lose sight. Clay wanted to be one
of the guys, wanted to be a max contract for
wherever he was, and that's not what the or way
he was anymore. He lost sight of that and forget
in order to keep going on this run, I'm gonna
have to sacrifice. We've all had to sacrifice as a
part of this. And he lost it. And so that's
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why he is where he is. And he wanted more time,
he wanted more more minutes. And the Mavericks, I think
they'll be all fine eventually. Funny because eventually it was
a rap like meaning the writings on the wall, I
can't play.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I'm not gonna play with them anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Let me go somewhere else where they value me and
I can get some more playing time and be a
part of a team that was just in the NBA finals.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
That was his reasoning for going there. But it didn't.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And well, you know, he absolutely is not getting booed.
He's absolutely gonna have the house going crazy for him.
He's gonna shed a tear. He absolutely is a part
of that Splash Brother movement and he means so much there.
But it ended bad because I think he lost sight
of who he was and what that team was about.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And he just got.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Reason enough three, which that's reason enough to boo is
that he did lose sight. He lost sight of what
that whole thing was supposed to be. And those guys
nobody thought when they those guys got together that they
were gonna be able to do what they were able
to do. And he got too big, his head got
too big. He decided that he was bigger than that group.
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That he know it's about him, despite two major injuries,
despite him not shooting well, that he still deserved to
get cashed out.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
What nobody just castes you out because they like you.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You gotta put you gotta have production, you gotta play well.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I mean side of that, that's selfish.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
This and you, so also look at your legacy taking
going to Dallas and giving up what you have put
together with with a group or trio that you might
not see again. Remember Draymond Green's a second round pick,
and you guys were able to put together something special
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with that backcourt and to go to Dallas and then
you know, in the same conference with a chance to
try to get some revenge against against washing against the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
How could a Warriors fan feel good about that? That's
what I'm saying, is he's trying.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
To do that. I think the Warriors, I think.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Time rob like meaning, No, most stories don't end perfectly.
Most stories don't end like if Tom Brady the way
left him and Bill Belichick now.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Geter did he wha walked out of there twenty years
with just a yankee?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
And that's an anomaly. Michael Jordan was a wizard, like
I was a mistake. I said that it was. I'm
saying I'm not denying the mistake. What I'm saying is
most most things don't happen perfectly. That doesn't mean I
have to boo you know, I'm booing you after your day?
Bring you in, we cheer, we clap after.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
That ready cheered him, they gave him parades, they did
all of that.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
What more do you want? You want more? You did
it already first time back. He's coming back with cheering.
Rob g One day you're gonna leave, And ain't he
gonna boo booing you in the street. Rob, he gonna
be out here booing you, pooh pulling you because you
had to go do whatever you felt was best for
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you and your family. See, I take Wilson this, Rob,
Rob take notes.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So if Robe when he interviewed at that other station,
I let him know, and Rob g stained. He turned
it down because he knew what he's gonna have to feel.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
My wrath.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
You see how it is, alex Man and you, Hey Man,
I just think it's just best for me in my life.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Right now, you're gonna be walking around alis to go get.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Your sea MAFs Boo, Rob gonna be booing you just
you wanna get your sea mole. You're gonna be like
all that time we spent building something. See what I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It be the ones justice to you. Just just get
in here. And from the standpoint Clay is selfish.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I don't think Clay's selfish.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
What I think Clay selfish of him would have been
to stay in Golden State, had an above market deal,
knowing he didn't deserve it, and that he was stealing
money from Golden State like he had been for two
years before that with the a cl and the Achilles.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Selfish is breaking up something that you don't have to.
There's a couple of years left. You could have an
amazing legacy that those three guys were together.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
They had this fantastic run. But when the group ever
stayed together, No, but I wish is my point. It happened.
But this is the point on this was a situation.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It wasn't like they offered him a two year, ten
million dollar deal.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Okay, now that's disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They actually offered him more money a year than he's
getting now. To go join the enemy, is what I'm
trying to say to you. So, if you're a Warriors fan,
he's the enemy. He's the one trying to get to
the finals where you're the Warriors trying to get to
the finals.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
He's in your way.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Why would you make him feel good and warm and
fuzzy and feel good about it?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
And you're gonna make them coming afterwards?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
They're gonna do him after the first tell.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
By the way, it was reported earlier tonight that Steph
Curry was supposed to address the home crowd fans before
the game in honor of Clay's return, and him and
Clay spoke the night before and they did and that
was not the best scores of action.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yes, so he will not be speaking. There you go,
so come in get your cheer. That's why Clay knows
the deal. He said, Steph, please don't don't. They're gonna
boom me. Don't do it, Steph, don't do it. He
ain't booing him.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Ain't nobody believing that they're gonna boo him after that
first little initial reaction, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
If he tell me touch the ball, I boom every
time he missed the three I cheer.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
They might do that. That's a possibility. But the idea
of boring him right after bat ain't happening. He built
too much. He built from the scratch. Nobody knew who
know Klay Thompson was. Nobody knew you know, we all
knew step but nobody thought this highly a step that
he become a top all time player. Draymond the second
round than Steve Kirk, first time coach man. They built
something there and ain't no way he's gonna boo that
and hate the man for that.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Again. He got beside himself, Clay, I want something to
be chatting.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh for ten, oh for ten? That was his last
game with the Warriors. Oh for ten, Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Hell for ten.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
That's what I want here? All right, here we go
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. I want to
hear from you. Eight seven seven nine nine six sixty
three sixty nine was Clay Thompson's selfish for leaving the Warriors.
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I say, come on, Clay was tripping, but he don't
deserve to get booed. Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
All right, let's go right to the Bay Area and Mason,
you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
What's up, Mason?
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Hey, guys, love the show.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Rob.
Speaker 9 (15:41):
I'm so happy for you with his take. Oh my goodness.
And now I'm not a Warriors fan, okay, but with
the way Clay Thompson left this team, he shot like
a horrible like oho for tams now three and the
Bay Area let him know about that. The Bay area
made sure they gave him a bunch of crap and
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let them know, you know, you know, we're not happy
with you in this performance. So I don't think there's
any love lost. And here in the media leading up
to this week, Clay doesn't care. Clay doesn't give a damn.
It's just another game. He says, he has bigger fish
to fry with the NBA Cups, So boy oh, I
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would be booing the hell out of him the entire game.
I don't think there's any love loss on either side.
And of course the Warriors fans are gonna all kisses,
but with their little captain's.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Hat on tonight, get out of here.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Mace Mason. Thank you very nice.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
That was great, I tell you.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Very nice.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
I'm keeping my eye on y'all. We build something together.
We have a little fallout day and that's how y'all at.
That's how y'all am.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Okay, John and Clovis California.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I never heard of that. Clovis California. You're on the
odd couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
It's right next to says no Rob Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Thank you, buddy. I did not know where that was.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I had heard of that.
Speaker 10 (17:05):
Okay, hey, hey, it's a butt four analysis. But for
Klay Thompson, they don't win them titles.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Man, Oh really, Kevin Durant didn't helped them win any titles.
Speaker 10 (17:15):
I don't think that Day would have won those titles. Rob,
And you can't poopool his contributions. So he goes over ten.
We've seen Charles Barkley go over ten. We see everybody
but Michael Jordan have a very, very off night. But
I'm just gonna say that, you know, as far as
I'm concerned, and you know, I'm a Lakers fan, but
I know what I saw, and the Splash Brothers were legit,
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and Klay Thompson was wonderful.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Hi, I appreciate you, no doubt, I hear you. I
just you were that ain't.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
But that's the part that's not debatable, Rob Parker. You
can't debate that he was not great with the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Now, it's not debatable the way you end, and you
don't have to do what he did. And and to
take less money as a slap in the face to
all Warriors fans. It's one thing if they offered him
a max deal or something, he couldn't turn down financially,
then you would understand it. But they offered him less money.
That's what I'm trying to tell you. That's a slap
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in the face. Nobody in their right mind could be
mad if they offered him four years and one hundred
million dollars or three years and one hundred million dollars
and you're offering forty eight. We can't argue with that.
I can argue with him taking less money for more years.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
He thinks he still got something to take. That's what
he believes.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
He believes he's still one of them ones when we
all say he's not. And that's the issue with Clay.
But I'm still not gonna expect the work he did
with the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Nobody is.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
They already gave him a parade, They've already done that.
Sorre on in Sacramento. You're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Yeah, Mauga from another mother?
Speaker 7 (18:49):
What up?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Could it kill him? What I brought the boys?
Speaker 10 (18:52):
Man?
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Real quick, man, I know it's trash talking Tuesday. If
I could just get one second to really shout out
Eddie Garcia, my man, imb family. Man is unfortunate. What
happens in the business sometimes, but hey, we gonna keep
living on with it without y'all brothers. Man, keep on pushing,
y'all gonna land on y'all feet. And on top of
this topic, man, Rob, you got this all wrong. The
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Warrior fans should give him a five minute standing ovation
for taking his bum ass up out of here, because
the past five years he's been cheating these fans out
of their almighty dollar. How many games has he sat out?
How many threes has he breaks? He's far He's very
far away from that forty burger you put on my
Sacramento Kings back in the early two thousands. Man, he's
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not the same guy. They're much better off without him.
Look at the young guys thriving without that pressure of
those bets sneaking up on him, crying about them minutes
from the bench. Good Rentans by bye Clay bull Away.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Bay, Oh, bull Way Bay.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
There you go, bull Away Bae, bull Away Bay. You see, Kelvin,
I know the pulse of the people is what I'm
trying to tell you.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I'm telling you like that about.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Holly Andy life. Everything's great.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Let's give a parade, Let's have cupcakes with sprinkles, on it.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
No, ain't nobody listening to you.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I want my hair upcakes with dirt on them.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Who who just called in? Who was that?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Who's Sean?
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That was Sean. Where is he gainfully employed? You talk
the state of county? No, what are you laughing at?
Where is he gainfully employed?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
The state of California's an employer.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
No, I didn't ask you what state? What company?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
No, he worked for the State of California. What else?
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Where else does he work? I don't know about his
freelance gigs? I have freelance. You went to the exact term.
He may or may not be freelance with MLB. Bro Right, Okay, man,
you matter not be having you bet listen, Sean? Is
that man's because you need to know? Yeah, and I
need to know. Don't be having people call in. Don't
be having a short call in to give you some backup.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
M O.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
If that's what we're doing, I can do it too.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
In a minute, Mason called the first caller from the
Bay Area.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I don't know, Mason, he doesn't work for me. What
are you talking about.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
No, I'm not saying that's not gonna be a caller too.
But don't be having people called in Sean Overjan.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Is his own independent thinker, and those the Bay Area.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
He was one thing he was right about.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
There's about to be a huge ovation for Clay, a
huge ovation, and they're not gonna boo him like they
should as fans. We've moved on, We're gonna boo you
have some fun. He's gonna get a massive evation stopping.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
That's why he didn't want Steph to say anything, because
he didn't want people to to boo the whole situation
and be and be not feel good about it. So no,
he just wanted to come society the dude they carried
that dude, I mean and you know that he was.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Not the same place you heard me say.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
He started to get in his old feelings and all
of a sudden he was started complaining about the weirdest thing.
Ain't the time I'm a top seventy five player. Stuff
That was like, dude, that's not you like you normally
don't care about stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Why are you caring about? One of them?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Injuries mexed up his psyche rob Those his injuries messed.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Up his whole entire mojo of who he.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Was and what he meant to, and they don't understand
that those are two missing two years hurt his.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Overall career, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Like that, that was a big part on why he
probably not on some of these lists that he thinks.
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Speaker 3 (22:34):
You guys have been full of it so far. Don't
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You can get in on the last call and just
a bit if you want to start jumping in eight
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just a little bit and you your boy the Jets.
Right now, it's just all downhill. Folks have all types
of opinions on what's going on there. I've said it,
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I've said it, I've said it all along that I
wasn't mad at them taking a staff at Aaron Rodgers.
It makes sense this organization who struggled this organization who's
trying to win something. This was an organization that had
a great defense, that had some nice pieces on the
offensive end, and felt like they were a quarterback away
and they had their bet. They put it all on
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Aaron Rodgers. And the only thing that's been challenging for
me is that some of the decisions they've made when
they've tried to go all in and they even started
to get outside of themselves. When you've never fired a
head coach in the middle of the season, you do
that again. They brought in Nathan Hackett as somebody to
lure Aaron Rodgers, and again it worked. They lured them in.
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They got them, you got some of his old receivers.
You brought in Devontae Adams as well.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
This year. Everything's been Taylor made for them.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
To have a successful season, and they have it, and
the offense looks like Zach Wilson's offense right now, and
they just have not been able to succeed as the
rate they thought they would. They're not a playoff team
and it's been just really a bad situation and it's
time for them to figure out what they're gonna do
at the end of the season. If it's move on.
If it's staying at Aaron Rodgers. I don't think that
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Aaron Rodgers experiment has worked. And that's okay, that's okay.
You make mistakes. Organizations do every single year. Whether it
pick the sport, it doesn't matter. But you have to
find a way to move on and rectify this thing
and get it going.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
You done, because here's my here's my issue. Yeah, here's my.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Issue is that people have gone so bonkers with the
Aaron Rodgers thing that they don't even analyze the game anymore.
It's just, no matter what the situation is, it is
blame Aaron Rodgers, no matter what. And that's where you
should have pushback and make people be accountable as far
as how in the world.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Did you evaluate people?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Because if I told you that Aaron Rodgers has more
touchdowns and less interceptions than Patrick Mahomes, nobody would believe me.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Nobody because he's so awful.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
But nobody would believe me that he has more touchdowns
than Patrick Mahomes and less interceptions.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Okay, believe nobody.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Would believe that.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
No, because can I talk? You just talk, let me talk.
And the same thing. Aaron Rodgers passer rating is only
three points behind Patrick Mahomes. But it's about winning, and
that's what When people lose, you just want to blame.
And you can blame Aaron Rodgers hasn't played well. But
if you want to tell a whole story, talk about
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the defense that gave up twenty five points to the Patriots.
Talk about the lack of a running game. I talked
about this before. I told Chris and Rob g this
isn't gonna work. And you want to talk about the
telltale sign. Four snaps into his Jets career, he blew
out his his achilles.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
That was a sign it wasn't gonna work.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
A forty year old quarterback and you're trying and hoping
and wishing. Don't forget Peyton Manning was benched the year
that they won the Super Bowl to Denver Broncos. You
know why, because he was terrible. He had one hundred
and forty yards in the Super Bowl. But why did
they win? They had a great defense. That's why they
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won the Super Bowl. They had nothing to do with
Peyton Manning and his leadership or whatever you want to say.
He got bench for brock Oxwaller. And here's the other thing.
Where is he from the Jets defense. Right, it's twenty
second in points allowed, twenty fourth against the run, and
thirtieth in takeaways.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
They're no good. They're no good.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
So yes, Aaron Rodgers into the answer and hasn't played well,
But there are other facets that tell you this isn't
a good team. And if you're gonna be give you
analysis on it, make sure it's well rounded and well researched.
Rather than the lazy blame Aaron Rodgers yours.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's lazy, it's tired, it's old.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yes, he's a part of the problem, but he's not
the entire problem. Look at what I just read you
on their defense. I don't care who's the quarterback. You're
not gonna win Rock but you.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
First of all, nobody said he's entirely My issue has
been the organization giving him the ring to this and making.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Everyone they supposed to do an organization they chose to.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Do the first thing I said, they did what they
I wasn't mad you went out and got Aaron Rodgers.
It isn't working, so at the end of the season
they have something to consider. They absolutely took a stab
at it, and we all got it. But he was
old then, and they chose to give too many, too
many consension concessions.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
They made the nick they brought in Hacket when he
couldn't hack it.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
We all know that joke. He couldn't hack it. They're
going ahead and brother, go Solad. Okay, if he won,
the guy cool, They let go of him. They made
every concession. They go get DeVonta Adams. They don't look
like they no connection. You would have never thought they
played together right now looking at them. So he is
if it's a if it's a blame percentage of a pie,
he absolutely is not getting the whole pie. But he's
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absolutely they made this whole thing around him. That's where
they went wrong. They banked everything on. We got him.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
We're good. To your point, the.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Organization that hasn't done anything, what what they're supposed to
all of a sudden they're gonna say, oh, yeah, we'll
bring you here. But no, we're still gonna do what
we've been doing, which is not being able to draft quarterbacks,
not being able to hire a head coaches, correct ones,
not being able to do They've been a bad franchise.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
For a long.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
They didn't work with Brett Favor won three straight MVPs.
It didn't work with him. They started the season eight
and three and didn't even make the playoffs that year.
I'm just telling you, I've watched this team my whole life.
That's why I never bought into it. I just didn't.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
So nobody's arguing that that this this has been a
badly run organization.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's a partly blame.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
And that's all Aaron Rodgers too for one to go
there if he you know, he felt like I can
change this organization, and he bet wrong and they bet wrong,
and I think that's again the issue is they didn't say, cool,
we got Aaron Rodgers, great check, we got a quarterback
we believe in. Let's continue to build on this defense,
let's continue to build on the special team, Let's continue
to build our offensive identity.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
And they didn't.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
You can tell they kind of went, well, Aaron's here,
everything should be okay, and it wasn't. And he's lost
the step he's defense to wait. No, no, no, that's
all we're talking about. And by the way, you keep
bringing up the defense, that's fine, how about the offense score?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I agree with you. Defense is saying you can't, we
can't look at it. One sided football is more than that.
And and when you're not you know what, you know
what takeaways do. If you're if you're a quarterback and
you get easy balls because they're intercepted in the other
team's zone, it makes your you're you're you're a bill
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to score because you're closer obviously, and you don't have
to do an eighty yard drive because you gotta pick
and you only gotta.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Go thirty yards.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
It makes a huge difference when your team gets takeaways
as a defense and.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Help us off the defense scoring some points. Can we
get off the field, please? Can we get off the field?
Can we relax for me in and catch our breath?
Can you go score? Can Devarta Adams get a couple
of touchdowns? We need to see that as well, and.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Know that Patrick Mahons had less touchdowns and more interception.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Nobody knows that.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
No, we talked about that, we've been off. We all
knew this ain't Patrick mahomes best season. We all knew that.
But Patrick Mahomes keeps making right plays to win. And again,
Patrick Mahomes has a really good defense. So nobody's saying
this is Patrick mahoonmes bast season. He ain't Lamar right now.
That's without a doubt. He's not a couple of quarterbacks,
but he does keep making the right play at the
right time. And it's gonna be interesting to see what
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the decision they have to make. Do they go roll
with this again and say, hey, we're gonna keep rolling
it out and hope this works. Do they decide to
move on? Does he move on? This offseason will be
interesting for the Jets because it ain't working, it's broken,
and they gotta make decisions come this offseason. Last Call
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Speaker 5 (31:44):
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on the Trash Talking Tuesday. One more time for you boys,
Alex Man this song right here. Man, I can't blame
you because now it's in my head all day.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I'm singing it everywhere I go. Tell you, I blame you, Alex.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Come on sing with me.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
K Dot No, I don't want to sing it with
Come on you you sing it?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
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Speaker 5 (32:06):
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I was about to tell you, Rob Parker, you know
what time it is?
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Last call?
Speaker 11 (32:32):
Last its last call, last call time on the Odcome.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I gotta get my wheel together. It's gonna be my
last call.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
But keep trying this man.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Somebody give me an oxygen take all.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Right, here we go and guess what alice.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
You're in the couple of Fox Boys Radio and you're
the last call, Alice.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
What's up? Alice?
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (33:10):
You know I listened to you. I work four days
a week and I work a late shift. I'm a nurse, okay,
and I listened to you on the way home from work.
You're always entertaining.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
I love you, guys. Anyways, about Aaron Rodgers, you know,
I just want to give him a big thank you
for getting rid of Mike Williams, because yes, we like him.
Here already in Pittsburgh. One day, two days in Pittsburgh's
first game, and he gets a touchdown the windows the game.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
No doubt. And that was a really throw, wasn't it? Alice?
Speaker 7 (33:42):
It was perfect? It was perfect that game, Gigs. It
gave me chest pain though that game was rough.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
For game, you know, you can give yourself. You have
to be a nurse to yourself.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Hey wait, but Alice, let me let me ask you this,
because I think you would have want to.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Call when I was saying that rough.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
She was with me.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
She was with me, Alice, Can you apologize to me
that I was right?
Speaker 7 (34:06):
I apologize you, guys. She did. Okay, Remember remember that
all right.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
No, he likes he likes to rub it in.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
All right, Alice, Well we we appreciate your support.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Thanks for listening to the odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Thank you, Alice.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
So I was actually mad, remember and you if you
recall Rob both Robs actually where I was screaming out.
We were having those conversations about the Chiefs, and I
kept saying, man, Mike Williams is available, and I know
it's not working out for him.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Uh, he's not looking, you know, with the Jets. He's
not playing. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I don't know if it's just not a real connection there,
but I'm like, man, that's somebody that the Chiefs could
get and you utilize. And I don't know what the
money was. I don't know how it could have worked
with that somebody. I think that the Chiefs kind of
missed out on not saying that would have been the big,
big splash. Like DeAndre Hopkins is a better player, but
Mike Williams is a special dude. He's huge and he's
fast to be that big, and I just thought he
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was you know, when we're talking about the chief needs
some more weapons, I thought that was an available one.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Because clearly he wasn't doing anything with the Jets.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
You forget he was even on the Dagon team, And
I thought that was a miss right there for them.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yes, it could have worked there, but let's finish up here.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Are you watching it? What's the score on that?
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
That pisson again? Is it over today? Winter? They lose
that overtime in the NBA couple?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
What he got?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
They won you guys?
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Sorry, can you hear me now?
Speaker 11 (35:29):
Guys?
Speaker 12 (35:29):
Yes, okay, I'll recap it for you.
Speaker 11 (35:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Right, So Miami is up nineteen.
Speaker 12 (35:39):
I apologize for laughing.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
One point one left.
Speaker 12 (35:42):
Detroit has a kid cutting him side out of bounds.
He throws an alley oop off the out of bounds
Jalen Durham dunks it with one second left to tie
the game.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Wow.
Speaker 12 (35:53):
Eric Spolster takes a time out, but Miami was out
of timeout, so it's a technical foul and Malik Bee
makes a technical free throw to give him the lead
and the eventual victory.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
That's a terrible the coach there. How in the world
you don't know you don't have any timeouts left off?
Speaker 5 (36:09):
No, man, he wasn't ready. He wasn't ready for the
end season tournament. He wasn't ready for the NBA Cup.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Rob backet ball.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, he wasn't locked in.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Where's on man Mason who made that famous? Everybody was
copying the Pistons.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
No, that's real. A big shout out to Maze.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
You're so right about that, man, because every in arena
was all sounding like this and that's all they're doing it.
Then he came put some flavor up on that thing,
and now every arena had somebody.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
You know, he used to say Detroit on the side line.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I remember this the finals, robbed you.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
I know, I hate bring up two thousand and four
and just one story over and over.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
No, no, no, no, no, but this is a Ja and
Donde story.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
When he's with the La Todd that's what I said.
Pigeons two thousand and four.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
And we're at the palace and you know, the media
we'll all sit together and have you know, lunch or
whatever dinner before the game, and Jay is getting up
to go out to the side to the court. I'm like, like,
you know, we're writers. We don't go for the introduction
because we've heard it a million times. Right, we're at
the games all the time. So we're sitting here, I'm like, Jay,
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where you going. Oh, I'm going out to the sideline.
I said, for what I want to hear the player introductions,
Like that's how much you know what I mean? For
grizzled sports writers. Richard Mason is the man. No, no,
he is the radio legend in Detroit.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Yeah, big time man. He made that thing. And everybody's
jocking his fiack in the worship Wednesday tomorrow. We got
worship Wednesday. Man, you're gonna be worshiping this NBA Cup.
That's what you're gonna be worshiping.