November 29, 2024 • 40 mins
Rob Parker & Martin Weiss talk about Caleb Williams and why they think he may be better then he's played.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Number two of The Odd Couple on a funky flashback Friday,
a Black Friday at that the day after Thanksgiving. Man,
oh man, you might be out there shopping or you
did some or I guess everybody, Uh Cyber, Do you
go to the malls anymore?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I actually went to the mall on Wednesday, was there
with Tuesday, not realizing that everything was forty percent off anyway, right,
Well they do.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
They don't wait till Black Friday. They want people if
you're in the stores to get the deals.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
It was wide open too. I was trying stuff on.
I had like three people waiting on me.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay, good time. That was a good time. I like
to go to the mall. I still do. It is
the Odd Couple. Rob Parker Martin. Weis in for Kelvin
Washington coming up in about twenty eight minutes. It is
Sean King will be down with the King, the former
NFL quarterback Fox Sports Radio NFL analysts. I don't think
he was a big Caleb Williams guy either, so it'll
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be interested to just get his take on it as well.
But Mark Caleb Williams, I did mention this. He established
NFL rookie records with two hundred and twelve straight passing
attempts without an interception. And also he also set the record,
not that the Bears record for the most passing touchdowns
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by rookie quarterback. They have such a hard history of
developing quarterbacks that you're pretty easy. He might have been
able to do it throwing left handed. Right, He's got
fourteen touchdowns, five interceptions, and even during the streak where
they were losing and things weren't you know, And to me,
there was a couple of things that I saw that
I thought could totally change your perception. And the Washington game,
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he drove them down. Sure, right, they go ahead, Mark,
and then what happens? Hell, married they lose that game.
What was the other one? The other one was what
they got the field goal blocked?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Who was that against? I just off the top of
my head.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
They had a field goal blocked and they also had
it was it was like right after the city blocked
the field goal in Denver. And that's why that's the
only one I stuck in my head. But I had
a field goal.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The game was that and just off the top of
my head, I'm sorry, but that was another one where
if that field goals made you know what I mean,
They've lost a handful of games on the margin for sure,
right where you would look totally different at him than
when they had the what they lost six now six
in a row, six in a row. Yeah, when you
look at that, but he had the one start of
the season four and two, right, so even if you
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go three and three through that stretch, you're looking at
seven and four, And that's an entirely different scenario, right,
And and the and the flip side is seven and five.
Sorry Daniels. In Washington, they got oh they got two
wins kind of like that. Probably they shouldn't have got
And if you and and it changes the season if
you take the other side of that, him wary, right, right,
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So it's it's interesting. But what do you just your
take on, Caleb, I'm sure you want you know, being
a USC alum, did you watch them closely? What did
you think going in and what do you think now?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I think what's important for a rookie quarterback, especially when
as highly touted as Caleb Williams was, is Okay, what
was he lead at in college?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
How does he do that in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Caleb Williams, what he was e lead at is capability
ability to extend plays, backyard football type of stuff. Now
he's gotten caught in the NFL way more than he
did in college, but he has still shown an ability
to be able to win the play breaks down, to
get loose, make things happen, make moves, and still deliver
accurate balls. That to me is the number one key
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we looked at, Like the media in general, I think
was way over their skis on Kayleb Williams. Myself included,
I had the Bears as a potential playoff team. Didn't
see this out of the vikings. That's That's pretty much
why I had the Bears as a potential playoff team.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You're not the only Nick Wright had him going to
the Super Bowl, sure, but the thing that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
We looked at the Bears roster and talent has said,
this is one of the most talented situations a first
round pick is going into without the knowledge of just
how bad it was in the front office and coaching
staff right, and the coaching staff to me is absolutely
dreadful if you happens where they are. If you had
Denver's coaching staff in Chicago, I think Kayleb Williams would
look a whole hell of a lot better. But ultimately,
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as is if I'm a fan of the Chicago Bears,
I know you have PTSD from all these other quarterback
situations you have. This is the third time you've drafted
a quarterback in the first round and then fired his
head coach before like before the quarterbacks, But this ain't
Mitch Trubisky, and this ain't justin fields. You've seen more
out of Kayleb Williams, even in this six game losing streak,
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than you saw out of either one of those two guys.
You you got the guy in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Now, see, I'm with you, and we agree on this,
and I'm I said, I think a lot of people
and and and I don't I don't get this part.
Just didn't like like the dialogue that was coming out
before he got drafted from his dad maybe you know
what I mean, and and some other stuff that had
nothing to do with football, like like they were trying
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to downgrade him as a football player because of the
chatter and the noise and this other stuff. Oh he's
a prima donna. Oh he's this, he's that, and and
that's fine, that's fine. You might not like that, But
I'm talking about his talent. And I and I and
I agree the knock on him holds the ball a
little bit too long, you know, And there's some sacks
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that he probably has to get better at getting rid
of the ball so he's not sacked in some of
those situations. But I agree. I mean this think they
made over keep Justin Fields, I mean, really keep Justin
Fields over Caleb Williams. There were some teammates, some some
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players well, I mean and also too.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It'd be one thing if they were saying it today, right,
it's another thing in Tireland with Justin Fields is in
your locker room. And okay, everybody knows you you're gonna
pick Caleb Williams, but you haven't actually picked Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That it's a little bit. I just say, it's a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That burd in hand is a lot realer than the
bird in the bush that you're thinking is coming.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I get that. But the only thing is they saw
him up and I'm not there's a place for Justin Fields, right.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I think Rob, But I think what it is from
the two stops we've seen him, Justin Fields.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I think he's a really really nice guy. And I
don't say that lightly. I don't have fun.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I think he's a really really nice His teammates speak glowing,
His coaches speak glowingly of him, you know what I'm saying.
They talk about him like he's like Arthur Smith talks
about him right now to this day. If you ask
Arthur Smith about him, even with the Russell Wilison's success
in Pittsburgh, he'd be like, oh no, we got two
starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
This is only one guy's getting all the snaps, right.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's I think that's only something that you do if
you actually like on a personal level, like the guy.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
With Caleb Williams. Somebody somebody tweeted this.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I wish I'd give him credit, but this is something
I read it and it really informed the way I
looked at him for the rest of everything. Kayleb Williams
is the first gen Z quarterback. He's the first quarterback
of this generation, right, Like I'm thirty five, Like Maulimam millennials.
There's an entirely new generation of kids resent their kids.
To me, that that feel that made me feel a
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little bit older. I was about to say, like Mary
Mack is in that, Mary Mac, how old are you?
Twenty three, twenty one, twenty one. There's a gap in
just the way.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Don't get me wrong. We can still communicate.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
We still could connect and still have a good working relationship.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Me and Mary, we communicate. All she has to do
is put some white powder in her hair and we're good.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But you know how big the gap is between some
of the stuff that Mary knows and some of the
stuff that you know, right, and how some of the
way that maybe Mary would act to some of the
way that you would.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's the same thing with Caleb Williams and some of
these other quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It's all like when you see this guy who's like,
he's not cutting his hair, he's painting his nails, he's
wearing pajama pants.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That's what they all do. I know, and I get
that it's this is my thing. I totally get that,
but it's a bunch of old you know. But you
and me looking at it, like, what the what the
scout is about. But but I agree, Okay, I see
what exactly what you're saying. But as a scout, you
know what I mean, and someone got to you gotta
get on like you Sometimes you gotta look at somebody
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and look at their talent to armstam, you know what
I mean, and and all that other stuff, to devalue
someone's talent because they're wearing pajama pants and painting their nails.
I just can't understand how you could turn in a
scouting report and downgrade his talent for those reasons and
the things.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
That's what about it is when you look at listen
to any of his postgame comments. Are you listening to
any of his comments in the media from the four
and two start to the oen sixth slide? To me
and I hear like way more press conference sounds than
I should for my dad job. I hear all like
I listened to probably fifteen press conferences a day in portions.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
How do you stay away?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Aleb Williams shows a level of maturity to me, that's
whyse beyond his years. Like he doesn't throw anybody under
the bus. He takes all the responsibility and all like
even when Shane Waldron was fired and Thomas Brown came
in and he started playing better.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He was just like, you know, the practices are just
a little different. It's not like you.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But he didn't he had an opportunity there to go
ahead and say, yeah, yeah, Thomas just really changing the
paradigm of everything we do. Thomas just changing the paradigm
of everything we do. It's now from Shane what Shane
Waldron was doing, and he doesn't do that. He seems
to me to be very mature for a kid who
is barely drinking age.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Uh, Mary, what you got? Well now, I was gonna say.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I think though also for like Camerab in terms of
like being again a gen z quarter, I think our
work ethic is a lot more different, like we're able
to do the bare minimum but still like keep it
like where okay, we're getting our work done and like
going above and beyond, but still kind of doing the
bare minimum. And I feel like I went to the
millennials and the other people in the like NFL team
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or whatever, just like, huh, that's kind of weird and awkward.
So it kind of makes people run to downplay his
talent as well.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, I just as a scout. I just don't understand,
like if I'm scouting somebody, how I can downplay And
that's what I heard a lot before the draft and whatnot,
And all these people were saying, he's a he's going
to be a big boss. Who's the guy Dan Kelly,
dan Jet scout or whatever we've had him on? But
I mean, let's be honest, how far he didn't fall?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Right? Like?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
These conversations existed in part because of the NFL draft
cycle and the way the news runs. Like this year,
there would be all types of people trying to convince
you that Carson Beck didn't lead the nation an interceptions
the whole entire time we watched him, right, Because it'll
just move on and on and on. Remember Will Levis
was supposed to be a top five pick, right and
he sat there second round?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He sat there.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
That is that because ultimately ended of that he was
the number one overall pick.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Also, when you think about the three let's think about
the three rookie quarterbacks, right, Jaydeen Daniels, who else we
got well knicks and bow knicks? Where does he rank
Caleb in that? I think Caleb has the most potential.
I think Caleb.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Like like, I think, especially when you're looking at these
guys who have played, you know what, thirteen games total
in the NFL, I think Caleb shows the most potential
for growth. I think Drake may has shown that physically
he's able to handle the NFL game. We'll see what
his decision making brings. Jaydon Daniels is almost the opposite
decision making. He's definitely good enough to play in the
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NFL at a high level, but he.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Physically can his body keep up and it seemed like
he's taking a step back well, I think.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But it also coincides he missed that he missed most
of that Carolina game with the rib injury. Surprisingly, offense
hasn't quite looked the same. Like, I think that has
a big part to do with that. Expect him to
start years big and then slow down.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, definitely like he was supposed to be the offensive
player right rookie, uh, without question, I think it's in question.
I think it will ultimately.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I think the Offensive Player of the Year will ultimately
beat bow Knicks, but it'll very much be like how
Mac Jones was in the running for Offensive Rookie of
the Year until the very end when Jamar Chase overcapt
This is just because Mac Jones had a very high floor.
Same with bo Knicks all right.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Caleb Williams has
he changed your mind or not? I mean maybe you
were on board from day one? Talk about Caleb. You
like what you're seeing and Martin talked about it. His
ceiling is high and he's doing things that the rookie
record two hundred and twelve pass attempts without an interception,
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fourteen touchdowns. Already, think about this Daniel Jones when he
got his big contract and so many touchdowns he had that.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Year fifteen, fifteen and seventeen games, twenty one total.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yes, unbelievable. Caleb Williams, your thoughts on him? I think
he's I think he's going to be the start, and
a lot of people thought he was going to be.
I really do eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
We saw him in the second half against the lines.
He look really good. Caleb Williams, where are you? You're
in or you're out? On Caleb? It is the odd couple.
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On a Funky Flashback Friday, Rob Parker Martin Whis's in
for Kelvin Washington.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Stick and stay unless you're wearing pajama pants to work.
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It is the Odd Couple on a funky flashback Friday.
On Black Friday, Rob Parker Martin Weiss in for Kelvin Washington.
Here on the Odd Couple. We're coming to you live
from the Tirack dot Com studios and in about eight
minutes we'll be down with the King Sean King, the
former NFL quarterback and Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst. But
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first we want to hear it from you, Caleb Williams.
Jan you out. Is he living up to expectations or not?
Where are you? Martin and I agree on this. We
like what we've seen and we think that there's an upside.
But what about you, Anthony in Philadelphia? You're in the
Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
What's up raw, Martin? Now we're doing fellas.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Man?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Feeling good?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (14:16):
Good to hear you guys, and big Kelvin fan myself
of Martin, you're doing pretty good yourself.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Thanks.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Uh, listen listening to you guys with my kid brother
all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Appreciate you. You know that. We appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Yeah, Jeremy, you know he couldn't listen tonight he's working
the night shift. But uh, anytime we get a chance to,
we'll crack a couple of cold ones.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
We listen to you guys. I just have a couple
of questions.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Okay, go ahead, what's that?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
What do you got? What do you got on Caleb.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Man what's with Caleb this year?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Is?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I mean he wears number eighteen. We think you think
you know Peyton Manning.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Obviously that's when my head goes to first and foremost.
And my kid brother, Jeremy, he thinks the same thing.
But this guy paints his nails.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Okay, all right, If that's your biggest complaint, thanks for
the call. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I think people want to win football games, hopes that
quarterback doesn't turn the ball over or hopes he delivers
What was that that passed yesterday? That was it? The
DJ Moore? Yes, yeah, it was beautiful. I mean, ultimately beautiful.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I think that this is something very similar to like
when probably parents in the fifties like what are those
kids doing that, like, you know, going to school dances
or the disco or whatever the new thing in the
eight like whatever the new need a haircut or our
hair or when I was in high school, it's like
why my mom would be like why is your T
shirt down to your knees?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Like Mom, because wear big shirts. And it's like my
nephew used to wear size four X ridiculous. I remember
the clover shoot. It was like a dress. Ken in Stockton,
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up?
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Ken?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yes, sir, you too?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (15:57):
You know Martin Moore carry then love picking on me
and on Caleb? Is it today? He picked the good
answers on the AFT. No, Kansas City ain't the best team,
and now he's here on Caleb, I can't wait to
sheckle City.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I can't thank you. We did sheeckle City and I'm
on a nine game win streak and we already gave
you the pick. Go on social media and check it out. Ken,
Let's go to albert in Riverside. You're in the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Albert?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (16:32):
Rob shipting my head after your daughters take last Wednesday.
If I hate, it's not gonna be one.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Come on, man, I mean, you're not the evil umpire.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
All they do is spend a billion dollars in the
off season. I'm just saying that.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
But let's go.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
Let's go back to back for then.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
You can bring that up.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Okay, hey, Albert, the last National League team to go
back to back?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Do you know.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
It was the Red Right Machine?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yep, seventy seventy seventy five, seventy six. Yeah, I don't believe,
all right, But.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Anyway, I'm Caleb. Yeah, Caleb, He's what he said. He's
still he'd be very good off off the pocket and
our schedule. Yeah, but when it comes to like being
in the pocket and plan taking his checkdown.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
He's still very shaking.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
So I think for the Bears, they should go with
the breenstruck at Ben Johnson and get Ben Johnson there
to helping him play more fundamental football because he's still
very shaking when it comes.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
To back an offensive line. Don't they need improvement on
the offensive line?
Speaker 9 (17:29):
Oh yeah, that's future sure, because because yeah, watched not
Getting yesterday. They were shocking him like like crazy. They
had like what like six seven sacks or something things
like that. Complete it's being chased.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Some of that is him hold on to the ball
too long. I think some of it is look at
the coaching staff around him. Does he trust where his
checkdown is supposed to be? I think a lot that
has I don't. We can't measure quantification having Shane Waldron,
having Thomas Brown, having this this jumble all happening for
Caleb Blooms right now. Now, if it was still looked
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like this a year from today, like we're talking Thanksgiving
twenty twenty five, and we've seen no progression, then you
can look all right, well, okay, let's look but after
thirteen somebody's supposed to give him the answers.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Thirteen games in ye, coach from Georgia. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, coach?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
That's how we're doing.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
They just comment break out chicag and I would like
to come in also, O K see if that's okay,
rock out as well. Okay, First of all, Taylor dynamic
talent no question. But it's about coaching. We're inspecting. I
just say we collectively these young quarterbacks. You got a
coach and through the game, and sometimes you have to
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take the ball out of a young quarterbacks hand. Talk
to me about just look at some of your legends.
You're promos, if you're prescotch you what's the guy from
Atlanta Falcons, previous quarterbacks, Matt Ryan, great quarterbacks, but just
what if coach had to take the ball out of
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their hand because they're gonna throw from first forty guns
and do something stupid in the game and turn that
suck over. And I'm not saying that about Caleb. He's
a donator of talent, but you gotta coach him all
the way through. You can't put the whole game in
this young quarterback's hand, who's playing against elite talent.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And I think when you when you look at bow Knicks,
that's what's happening there. Do we think bow Knicks just
figured out the NFL? Because I don't. I think Sean
Payton is dialing it up for him and he's got
one or two options every play, and bow Knicks has
played enough football to be able to side between one
two a run. That's how it's working in Denver right now,
All right, what's your what's your.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Other point, coach about Casey?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Here's the deal. Why you asked the question. You say,
what team is better than Casey? I'm not necessarily Casey thing.
I'm a generic fan. To be honest with you, guess
what you're gonna tell me, Kate Ron And I'm not
trying to attack you, but if you're gonna tell me
Casey is supposed to be uh what eleven and three?
Whatever and three? And I'm gonna say, and I'm gonna say,
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the Panthers' supposed to be you know what, they don't
beat themselves exactly. They don't beat themselves no other but other.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But but it's not it's not one team. It's a
number of teams in those situations. And that's all I'm
saying like that, That's that's all I'm saying is that
there's some luck involved as well. And and somebody brought
it up. Let's just be honest. They the the video
of Andy Reid and those guys, they had to look
on their face of pure shock that that they couldn't
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even snap the ball and they fumble in that situation.
That's all. Appreciate that, all right, appreciate that, coach. Uh
do we have one time to squeeze in one more?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Let me see uh Drew in New Jersey real quick.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drew?
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Hey, guys right into it. So when I get Caleb,
I look at the comp that everyone was saying Patrick Mahoons.
I don't see Patrick Mahons. I look at Russell Wilson.
I think the body type height wise, I think that's
to a key, that's who he is. And I think
what got Russell Wilson successful early was that run game
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he had. Yes, So what I'm saying is, go get
Ben Johnson, get jen Kee from Boise State, and build
that O line and run the ball and then let
let let Caleb do some bootlegs as he's athletic.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You remember early on with Dak Prescott, what what was
work for him? Well, they ran the ball, they ran
the ball. And I remember Tony Dundee got in trouble
when uh Dak got hurt and he said on the
air it was a blessing in disguise. Now the Cowboys
can go back to running a football, you know what
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I mean. He didn't mean it like they wanted Dak
to be hurt, but he was saying they had stopped
running the football, and that's where he excelled big time
early on. Thanks so much, Crew, I think that's a
good cop. Appreciate young Ross to young Calob.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I don't hate it. I don't hate it one bit.
All right, coming up, we're gonna talk with former NFL
quarterback Sean King. There you go, Sean King. I wanted
to stay down with the King, Sean King, but first
let's get you caught up with mister Steve de Seger.
Hello again.
Speaker 12 (22:24):
We did have an NFL game today, Kansas City hosted
Las Vegas and the Chiefs beat him nineteen seventeen. So
the Raiders have lost eighth straight Las Vegas and at
least they're consistent. In the final seconds down at the
Chiefs thirty two, the Raiders fumbled a snap Casey recovered,
So the Raiders had nine penalties one hundred one yards.
Brock Bauers rookie tight end did have ten recements. He
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looked good one hundred and forty yards and a tdaight
and O'Connell a couple of touchdown passes in the second half,
but the Chiefs win by two. The Bears fired head
coach Matt eber Flew. Chicago has lost six straight games.
Washington running back off Ston Eckler out with a concussion
this weekend. Running back Brian Robinson practice fully after a
sprained ankle. Detroit linebacker Malcolm Rodriguez is out for the
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year with the torn ACLS. Detroit is signing linebacker Kwan Alexander.
There is college football on Fox TV underway Utah at UCF. Meanwhile,
at number seven Georgia early second quarter Georgia Tech shutting
out the Bulldogs three to nothing. Number fourteen Ole Miss
beat Mississippi State twenty six fourteen twenty fifth rank Colorado
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shut out Oklahoma State fifty two nothing Oklahoma State oh
to nine. In the Big Twelve Conference, eleventh ran Boise
State now eleven and one after beating Oregon State thirty
four to eighteen. Currently, it's Nebraska leading at Iowa three
nothing early in the second quarter. Minnesota won at Wisconsin
today twenty four to seven. As for the NBA, among
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the ten games, Memphis won, it's fifth in a row
downing New Orleans won twenty twenty oh nine. Luca Donzitch
and the MAVs is doubtful for Saturday with his wrist injury,
although he did return to practice today. In college hoops,
West Virginia in overtime beat Arizona in a third place
tournament game battle for Atlantis and at a tournament championship
in San Diego, a number thirteen Purdue has beaten number
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twenty three Old Miss eighty to seventy eight.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Back to you all right, thanks Steve, appreciate it. It
is the Odd Couple on a funky flashback Black Friday
edition of The Odd Couple coming to your line from
the tyrack dot Com studios. And guess what It's time
for us to be down with the King? Sean King,
the former NFL quarterback and Fox Sports Radio NFL analysts.
(24:33):
What's happening, Sean? How is the Thanksgiving with you and
the fam?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Ah gobble gobble Thanksgiving for everybody? Man? I am stuffed.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh man, you did it. You did it up big wow.
I hear you.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Everybody man, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
We were just talking about Caleb Williams. I know you
want that hot on him. Where were you on Caleb
and he set a rookie record two hundred and twelve
passing attempts, no interceptions at a good second half against
the Lions. Where are you on Caleb in his progress?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I think the Bears are doing him a huge disk service.
I just don't understand these organizations. If you don't believe
in the head coach or the offensive coordinator, then why
let them select Caleb Williams to have any influence and
impact or if he ends up living up to his potential.
I just don't understand these organizations. Like they had the
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number one pick in the draft and they let Matt
ebra Flus and Shane Waldron select Caleb, and now they're
going to make their young quarterbacks start all the way
over next year, new head coach, new culture, new OC,
new system. It's amazing to be as smart as the
people that own these NFL teams are that they consistently
screw up this position.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Now, let me ask you this. Though we saw a
first year CJ. Stroud had a bust out year, right,
he didn't. He went to a new situation. Is that different?
Or the same wing with Jayden Daniels. Is that different?
What's different?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Well, everybody that comes into the NFL is coming into
a new system. I'm saying, going into year.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Two, he doesn't get the build run up.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
To a young quarterback time to start over. So what
I'm saying, they're gonna set Caleb Williams back Now. He's
already been inconsistent because he's trying to figure out how
to play his style of game at the NFL level.
And so now instead of spitting this off, it's kind
of self scout and kind of figuring out what he
did well, what he didn't do well getting to the
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Mexico on the system, he has learned a whole new system,
new language, the verbage is different, the philosophies are different.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
But you can't stick with something that's not working though, right,
I mean, you know he's saying that they probably should
have made a coaching change before drafting kayleb Wils.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Right, what I'm saying, Roberts, why let ebra Flus have
any influence to impact on Caleb if you were going
to fire him and things didn't go right.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Now, Sean, I'm want to ask you because the first
hour of the show we talked about Antonio Pears everybody's
solution to that hire Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Right, that's the solution. All right, now we're talking about
Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
If we took a bunch of calls right before you
came on their solution for Kayla Williams, hire Ben Johnson?
What is Do you think that Ben Johnson is going
to be a good NFL head coach? Because sometimes, like
I just say it, like this, your offensive lineman throwing
pass attemption in the first quarter.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
That's cool when you have a good defense and you're
not the head guy.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But if you're the head guy doing that type of stuff,
I feel like me sitting here in this seat, I
chastise you a little bit. He feels a little Brandon
Staley on the offensive side of the ball to me
with some of the decision making. But everybody seems to
have some Pennsylvan as the next great NFL head coach?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Where are you?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You got me?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Okay, okay. I'll say this about Ben Johnson, and I
think he's gonna be very interesting off season. I don't
know if he's a guy necessarily motivated just to be
a head coach at the NFL level. I think he
only leaves Detroit for the perfect job or for the
right situation and going to the Raiders who don't have
a quarterback, who probably I mean, this isn't the year
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to need a quarterback. This quarterback class is very average
in my opinion, especially when you get past Sadure, Sanders
and cam Ward. So if you're being Johnson, I mean, remember, guys,
he turned down jobs last year to stay in Detroit.
I don't think he's going to leave for it just
any job. I wouldn't take the Chicago job and be
under the same GM that's made mistakes the last couple
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of years. In Ryan Poles sot me inter reasons has
been leave Detroit. I don't think that's a guarantee that
he leaves Detroit, not because he won't have options, but
because he might not like the options that are available.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Sure, Kansas City Chiefs win again by the say of the.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Wins and win Rob, I.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Get that, But when you see this offense red on
four field goals one touchdown, what's happened there? I mean, seriously, Sean, like,
what's happened with the offense? I don't they get to
the red zone? Tody? Like they're not getting there? They
just can't.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I agree, I agree. I don't think they have explosive playmakers.
You look at them, Travis Kelcey, he doesn't want like
he used to. DeAndre Hopkins never has been a Blazer,
but he doesn't want like he used to. And the
rest of those skilled guys are really just guys. You know.
They're not an explosive team from an athleticism standpoint, but
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they're finding ways to win because they have championship grit
that may be enough to win. What would this be
three in a row and maybe we'll find out. It's
gonna be fascinating to watch. But again, I'm not impressed
with them. I don't think they're dominant, but they're gonna
be a tough out for anybody.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Rob is there a team? And I agree with that.
They they're not gonna lay layo, you know, roll over.
But you keep getting lucky with some teams that you're
gonna finally face some better team teams and Buffalo maybe
not going to miss the field goal this time, or
or the Ravens are going to run the ball with
Derek Henwy you know what I mean, and you and
you finally get knocked out.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So to that point, I wonder, is there a team
in the AFC that you would have definitively ahead of
the Chiefs, even though they haven't been impressive.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I think everybody has flaws. I mean, Baltimore's defense looks
terrible at times, their passing game looks enough at times
and at other times when they look like, you know,
they're gonna waltz through the playoffs Buffalo. I mean, can
they get it done with that group of pass catchers?
I mean, we'll find out. I mean, is Ada Mark
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Cooper gonna be enough? I Mean, the most fascinating team
to me is in the NFC, and that's the Philadelphia
Eagles because they've kind of been flying under the radar.
Detroit has been getting a lot of the pub people
been talking about the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think the Eagles are better than the lines now.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I know, I know the Eagles could be the team.
I mean, they're they're talented. I mean, to me, that
the most talented.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Roster, and they got the experience. They went to the
Super Bowl two years ago.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
They did, so I think that's the team to watch
if I'm being honest this point.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You know, the Eagles worst red zone than the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, but they got the push push, so.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
So he said they got the ace to hole uh
as far as uh you know, I mean uh Sa Kwan.
With the Big Game on national television Sunday night, everybody
kind of said, yeah, he's he's in the MVP. Conversation.
Do you see a running back actually winning uh the
m v P or this? I think it's turned into
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a quarterback award. And the thing that I look at
is I look at uh you know where Lamar is
from his numbers last year's numbers are off the charts
this year and they really really are. I don't know
how he can't get the m v P again.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm what have probably happened, Rob And I don't have
any idea how this is even possible, but it happens
every year. Uh it happened to Cooper Cup. The year
the Rams went to the Super Bowl, Lamarrow probably went
m v P and sat Quana win Offensive Player of
the Year. Now, how that how those two can be
different is unbelievable. Play right kind of winning are?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
They just should be like baseball, where you have right,
you have an MVP, you have a Cy Young, you
know what I mean? Like the quarterback needs like.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
A Cy Young award, right, because how can how can
the NFL MVP not be the Offensive Player of the
Year if he's an offensive player, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
He's not like out here like you know what I'm saying,
you guys playing both ways in the league doesn't make
any sense.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
All right, you got any picks for us this week?
You were wrong though about who you call last week.
Then you have some somebody up winning the game out right.
I can't remember Sean, don't mind him. He's nine to
zero in sheckl City in his last nine picks.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
So that's what happened, is you saw I hadn't remember
I had. I said Prince Minnesota had a chance to
beat Penn State. That was it.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
That was the one, all right. I'm just saying, I
remember I listened to your picks, and I thought about
you when they didn't get it done.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
That's all what they covered they covered. That's so I
got two more dogs tomorrow that I like. Don't look now,
but Lincoln Ronny got the Trozans Detroit kind of playing
a little better football after the quarterback change. Guess who's
coming to town, Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So what you're saying, Lincoln Roley's going to be Notre
Dame in this game.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
I'm saying, I like the Trojans plus and seven and
a half, and I think they got a chance to
win outright. The other yes, the other game that I
like is Texas A and M plus five and a half.
This is going to be a fourth quarter game to
not be surprised.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
What's that game again? Give it to me.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Texas A and M plus five and a half. They're
playing Texas. The other game is USC plus seven and
a half. Take the points, but I think both underdogs
can win outright.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Sean Rudy for anarchy, I know.
Speaker 12 (34:01):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Lost last night. Everybody to lose.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
That was a toughis all right? Hey there he is,
Sean King. Sean appreciate you, no doubt. We'll talk to
you next week. Sean King, former NFL quarterback and of
course Fox Sports Radio NFL analysts. All right, coming up next,
a little Black Friday fun from the Odd Couple. We
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want to find out if people still are into it?
Do they go shopping?
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
The old days there used to be big lines and
people trying to get to, you know, one product. I
don't think those days are anymore, or is just all
online we'll talk about that and more. It is the
odd couple. Fox Sports Radio stick and stay unless you're
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All right, today is Black Friday. We talked about that. Uh,
did you guys do any shopping you're looking for TV?
Do you partake in Black Friday? You said you went
to them all a couple of days before, But normally
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do you try to find deals on Black Friday?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I mean, I'll click around, I'll peruse, but I'm not
necessarily locked in. I don't have like big expenses that
are have I think that's really what the situation would
have to be for me to be locked in on
Black Friday.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I'd be like, oh, you know what my TV happened
to break on Halloween?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Now wait or something like that for Black Friday to
try to buy it, you know, one that's radically discounted.
But I generally have a rule if I won't pay
full price or something, I'm not going to buy it
just because it's on sale.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
So even if it's on sale, you won't buy it.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, like unless I was willing to pay full price,
right Like, if it was something that I already wanted
and it was on sale, then I might get it.
But just because it's like, oh look this is ninety
eight percent off, you won't buy it. No, Okays, it
has to be something. If I see a.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Good deal on something, like a really good deal, I'll
jump on it because I always feel like like that's
how I get some of the clothes that I have.
It'll be like a six hundred and ninety five dollars
jacket and it's been marked down reduced to extra twenty
five percent off, and now that jacket is one seventy five.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
To the jacket that you would have bought if it
was like at six, I wouldn't have paid. You know,
I want to pay six ninety five. But I'm saying
if you paid, if you're the person would have paid that,
let's say full price was three hundred, would you have
paid that?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
You know?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Okay, that's that's because I'm saying I'm not going to
just buy it if it's ugly because it's on sale.
But I'll look at it and I could say it
has fine quality and if and if it's marked down
and I see it, I might not have been in
the uh and you know, trying to buy a jacket
in the market for a jacket, but if I find
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a really nice one at a really discounted rate, then
I'll buy the jacket. That's how they get you.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Well.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
But I mean, if I want to buy you, I'm
gonna need a jacket at some point.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
See this is the different I associate Black Friday with
a line out the door used to be.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
The story Pony used to go to jail over that.
We used to the bis right, I mean like like store.
They used to do it, but they had a handful
of items like at a store, right, and people would
line up at four o'clock in the morning and then
they would open the door, people would be trampled on.
And so they stopped that because it had gotten out
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of hand. Like a store to get people to come in,
would offer four TV sets for fifteen cents, you know
what I mean each and so people everybody in their
uncle is trying to get to the electronic department to
get one of the four TV sets that you know
what I mean, cost ninety nine dollars or whatever it is,
right right, that's what's wrong with America. People don't want
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to compete.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
But I also think though with like the whole thing
of like online shopping, because you can find better deals
online than in store.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Ye, but don't the store though sometime, right don't you?
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Like?
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Also but with COVID, like nobody goes to malls, nobody
goes Sears shut down, Cole shut down. Like who goes
to Macy's for real?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
I mean the mall still, I mean I was at
the inn. I saw two people wearing pajama pants and cliffs.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
But like, not a lot of people go to the mall.
One on as many malls, that is for sure, That's
no doubt about it. Patrick, What about you on Black Fire.
Speaker 11 (39:03):
Well, at first I was gonna be like disagreeing a
little bit with Martin was saying like I'm not gonna
buy it unless something. But then I'm like, oh, wait
a minute, like cause I don't normally, even if there's
a really good deal in something I would never really buy,
I'm never gonna go get it. I just don't like,
you know, spend my money frivolously like that. But like
if it was something that I'm like I kind of
need to find. Let's say I need a pair of shoes,
but it's not exactly the type of shoe, but it
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looks really cool, I'm like, you know what, I could
use that, and it's like fifty percent off, I'm gonna
get that. Sure, it's gotta be something that's at least
in the wheelhouse. Is something I either need or want.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Right and for me, like like doing television, there'll be
a sport coat, like I'll see like that was fourteen
hundred dollars and it's been marked down, walked down, and
an extra twenty five percent off. And now I'm looking
at the sport coat and now it's one seventy five.
That was fourteen. I'm buying it. I'm gonna buy it
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because you have need for it, cause I might not.
I didn't go there for that, but I'm gonna do
it all right. Our number three of the odd couple.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Number two of The Odd Couple on a funky flashback Friday,
a Black Friday at that the day after Thanksgiving. Man,
oh man, you might be out there shopping or you
did some or I guess everybody, Uh Cyber, Do you
go to the malls anymore?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I actually went to the mall on Wednesday, was there
with Tuesday, not realizing that everything was forty percent off anyway, right,
Well they do.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
They don't wait till Black Friday. They want people if
you're in the stores to get the deals.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
It was wide open too. I was trying stuff on.
I had like three people waiting on me.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay, good time. That was a good time. I like
to go to the mall. I still do. It is
the Odd Couple. Rob Parker Martin. Weis in for Kelvin
Washington coming up in about twenty eight minutes. It is
Sean King will be down with the King, the former
NFL quarterback Fox Sports Radio NFL analysts. I don't think
he was a big Caleb Williams guy either, so it'll
(01:08):
be interested to just get his take on it as well.
But Mark Caleb Williams, I did mention this. He established
NFL rookie records with two hundred and twelve straight passing
attempts without an interception. And also he also set the record,
not that the Bears record for the most passing touchdowns
(01:29):
by rookie quarterback. They have such a hard history of
developing quarterbacks that you're pretty easy. He might have been
able to do it throwing left handed. Right, He's got
fourteen touchdowns, five interceptions, and even during the streak where
they were losing and things weren't you know, And to me,
there was a couple of things that I saw that
I thought could totally change your perception. And the Washington game,
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he drove them down. Sure, right, they go ahead, Mark,
and then what happens? Hell, married they lose that game.
What was the other one? The other one was what
they got the field goal blocked?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Who was that against? I just off the top of
my head.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
They had a field goal blocked and they also had
it was it was like right after the city blocked
the field goal in Denver. And that's why that's the
only one I stuck in my head. But I had
a field goal.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The game was that and just off the top of
my head, I'm sorry, but that was another one where
if that field goals made you know what I mean,
They've lost a handful of games on the margin for sure,
right where you would look totally different at him than
when they had the what they lost six now six
in a row, six in a row. Yeah, when you
look at that, but he had the one start of
the season four and two, right, so even if you
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go three and three through that stretch, you're looking at
seven and four, And that's an entirely different scenario, right,
And and the and the flip side is seven and five.
Sorry Daniels. In Washington, they got oh they got two
wins kind of like that. Probably they shouldn't have got
And if you and and it changes the season if
you take the other side of that, him wary, right, right,
(03:03):
So it's it's interesting. But what do you just your
take on, Caleb, I'm sure you want you know, being
a USC alum, did you watch them closely? What did
you think going in and what do you think now?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I think what's important for a rookie quarterback, especially when
as highly touted as Caleb Williams was, is Okay, what
was he lead at in college?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
How does he do that in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Caleb Williams, what he was e lead at is capability
ability to extend plays, backyard football type of stuff. Now
he's gotten caught in the NFL way more than he
did in college, but he has still shown an ability
to be able to win the play breaks down, to
get loose, make things happen, make moves, and still deliver
accurate balls. That to me is the number one key
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we looked at, Like the media in general, I think
was way over their skis on Kayleb Williams. Myself included,
I had the Bears as a potential playoff team. Didn't
see this out of the vikings. That's That's pretty much
why I had the Bears as a potential playoff team.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You're not the only Nick Wright had him going to
the Super Bowl, sure, but the thing that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
We looked at the Bears roster and talent has said,
this is one of the most talented situations a first
round pick is going into without the knowledge of just
how bad it was in the front office and coaching
staff right, and the coaching staff to me is absolutely
dreadful if you happens where they are. If you had
Denver's coaching staff in Chicago, I think Kayleb Williams would
look a whole hell of a lot better. But ultimately,
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as is if I'm a fan of the Chicago Bears,
I know you have PTSD from all these other quarterback
situations you have. This is the third time you've drafted
a quarterback in the first round and then fired his
head coach before like before the quarterbacks, But this ain't
Mitch Trubisky, and this ain't justin fields. You've seen more
out of Kayleb Williams, even in this six game losing streak,
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than you saw out of either one of those two guys.
You you got the guy in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Now, see, I'm with you, and we agree on this,
and I'm I said, I think a lot of people
and and and I don't I don't get this part.
Just didn't like like the dialogue that was coming out
before he got drafted from his dad maybe you know
what I mean, and and some other stuff that had
nothing to do with football, like like they were trying
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to downgrade him as a football player because of the
chatter and the noise and this other stuff. Oh he's
a prima donna. Oh he's this, he's that, and and
that's fine, that's fine. You might not like that, But
I'm talking about his talent. And I and I and
I agree the knock on him holds the ball a
little bit too long, you know, And there's some sacks
(05:37):
that he probably has to get better at getting rid
of the ball so he's not sacked in some of
those situations. But I agree. I mean this think they
made over keep Justin Fields, I mean, really keep Justin
Fields over Caleb Williams. There were some teammates, some some
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players well, I mean and also too.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It'd be one thing if they were saying it today, right,
it's another thing in Tireland with Justin Fields is in
your locker room. And okay, everybody knows you you're gonna
pick Caleb Williams, but you haven't actually picked Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That it's a little bit. I just say, it's a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That burd in hand is a lot realer than the
bird in the bush that you're thinking is coming.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I get that. But the only thing is they saw
him up and I'm not there's a place for Justin Fields, right.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I think Rob, But I think what it is from
the two stops we've seen him, Justin Fields.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I think he's a really really nice guy. And I
don't say that lightly. I don't have fun.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I think he's a really really nice His teammates speak glowing,
His coaches speak glowingly of him, you know what I'm saying.
They talk about him like he's like Arthur Smith talks
about him right now to this day. If you ask
Arthur Smith about him, even with the Russell Wilison's success
in Pittsburgh, he'd be like, oh no, we got two
starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
This is only one guy's getting all the snaps, right.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's I think that's only something that you do if
you actually like on a personal level, like the guy.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
With Caleb Williams. Somebody somebody tweeted this.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I wish I'd give him credit, but this is something
I read it and it really informed the way I
looked at him for the rest of everything. Kayleb Williams
is the first gen Z quarterback. He's the first quarterback
of this generation, right, Like I'm thirty five, Like Maulimam millennials.
There's an entirely new generation of kids resent their kids.
To me, that that feel that made me feel a
(07:20):
little bit older. I was about to say, like Mary
Mack is in that, Mary Mac, how old are you?
Twenty three, twenty one, twenty one. There's a gap in
just the way.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Don't get me wrong. We can still communicate.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
We still could connect and still have a good working relationship.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Me and Mary, we communicate. All she has to do
is put some white powder in her hair and we're good.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But you know how big the gap is between some
of the stuff that Mary knows and some of the
stuff that you know, right, and how some of the
way that maybe Mary would act to some of the
way that you would.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's the same thing with Caleb Williams and some of
these other quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It's all like when you see this guy who's like,
he's not cutting his hair, he's painting his nails, he's
wearing pajama pants.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That's what they all do. I know, and I get
that it's this is my thing. I totally get that,
but it's a bunch of old you know. But you
and me looking at it, like, what the what the
scout is about. But but I agree, Okay, I see
what exactly what you're saying. But as a scout, you
know what I mean, and someone got to you gotta
get on like you Sometimes you gotta look at somebody
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and look at their talent to armstam, you know what
I mean, and and all that other stuff, to devalue
someone's talent because they're wearing pajama pants and painting their nails.
I just can't understand how you could turn in a
scouting report and downgrade his talent for those reasons and
the things.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
That's what about it is when you look at listen
to any of his postgame comments. Are you listening to
any of his comments in the media from the four
and two start to the oen sixth slide? To me
and I hear like way more press conference sounds than
I should for my dad job. I hear all like
I listened to probably fifteen press conferences a day in portions.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
How do you stay away?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Aleb Williams shows a level of maturity to me, that's
whyse beyond his years. Like he doesn't throw anybody under
the bus. He takes all the responsibility and all like
even when Shane Waldron was fired and Thomas Brown came
in and he started playing better.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He was just like, you know, the practices are just
a little different. It's not like you.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But he didn't he had an opportunity there to go
ahead and say, yeah, yeah, Thomas just really changing the
paradigm of everything we do. Thomas just changing the paradigm
of everything we do. It's now from Shane what Shane
Waldron was doing, and he doesn't do that. He seems
to me to be very mature for a kid who
is barely drinking age.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Uh, Mary, what you got? Well now, I was gonna say.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I think though also for like Camerab in terms of
like being again a gen z quarter, I think our
work ethic is a lot more different, like we're able
to do the bare minimum but still like keep it
like where okay, we're getting our work done and like
going above and beyond, but still kind of doing the
bare minimum. And I feel like I went to the
millennials and the other people in the like NFL team
(10:02):
or whatever, just like, huh, that's kind of weird and awkward.
So it kind of makes people run to downplay his
talent as well.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, I just as a scout. I just don't understand,
like if I'm scouting somebody, how I can downplay And
that's what I heard a lot before the draft and whatnot,
And all these people were saying, he's a he's going
to be a big boss. Who's the guy Dan Kelly,
dan Jet scout or whatever we've had him on? But
I mean, let's be honest, how far he didn't fall?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Right? Like?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
These conversations existed in part because of the NFL draft
cycle and the way the news runs. Like this year,
there would be all types of people trying to convince
you that Carson Beck didn't lead the nation an interceptions
the whole entire time we watched him, right, Because it'll
just move on and on and on. Remember Will Levis
was supposed to be a top five pick, right and
he sat there second round?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He sat there.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
That is that because ultimately ended of that he was
the number one overall pick.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Also, when you think about the three let's think about
the three rookie quarterbacks, right, Jaydeen Daniels, who else we
got well knicks and bow knicks? Where does he rank
Caleb in that? I think Caleb has the most potential.
I think Caleb.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Like like, I think, especially when you're looking at these
guys who have played, you know what, thirteen games total
in the NFL, I think Caleb shows the most potential
for growth. I think Drake may has shown that physically
he's able to handle the NFL game. We'll see what
his decision making brings. Jaydon Daniels is almost the opposite
decision making. He's definitely good enough to play in the
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NFL at a high level, but he.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Physically can his body keep up and it seemed like
he's taking a step back well, I think.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But it also coincides he missed that he missed most
of that Carolina game with the rib injury. Surprisingly, offense
hasn't quite looked the same. Like, I think that has
a big part to do with that. Expect him to
start years big and then slow down.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, definitely like he was supposed to be the offensive
player right rookie, uh, without question, I think it's in question.
I think it will ultimately.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I think the Offensive Player of the Year will ultimately
beat bow Knicks, but it'll very much be like how
Mac Jones was in the running for Offensive Rookie of
the Year until the very end when Jamar Chase overcapt
This is just because Mac Jones had a very high floor.
Same with bo Knicks all right.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Caleb Williams has
he changed your mind or not? I mean maybe you
were on board from day one? Talk about Caleb. You
like what you're seeing and Martin talked about it. His
ceiling is high and he's doing things that the rookie
record two hundred and twelve pass attempts without an interception,
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fourteen touchdowns. Already, think about this Daniel Jones when he
got his big contract and so many touchdowns he had that.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Year fifteen, fifteen and seventeen games, twenty one total.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yes, unbelievable. Caleb Williams, your thoughts on him? I think
he's I think he's going to be the start, and
a lot of people thought he was going to be.
I really do eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
We saw him in the second half against the lines.
He look really good. Caleb Williams, where are you? You're
in or you're out? On Caleb? It is the odd couple.
(13:07):
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Speaker 5 (13:12):
Stick and stay unless you're wearing pajama pants to work.
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Speaker 2 (13:30):
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former NFL quarterback and Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst. But
(13:51):
first we want to hear it from you, Caleb Williams.
Jan you out. Is he living up to expectations or not?
Where are you? Martin and I agree on this. We
like what we've seen and we think that there's an upside.
But what about you, Anthony in Philadelphia? You're in the
Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
What's up raw, Martin? Now we're doing fellas.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Man?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Feeling good?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (14:16):
Good to hear you guys, and big Kelvin fan myself
of Martin, you're doing pretty good yourself.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Thanks.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Uh, listen listening to you guys with my kid brother
all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Appreciate you. You know that. We appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Yeah, Jeremy, you know he couldn't listen tonight he's working
the night shift. But uh, anytime we get a chance to,
we'll crack a couple of cold ones.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
We listen to you guys. I just have a couple
of questions.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Okay, go ahead, what's that?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
What do you got? What do you got on Caleb.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Man what's with Caleb this year?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Is?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I mean he wears number eighteen. We think you think
you know Peyton Manning.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Obviously that's when my head goes to first and foremost.
And my kid brother, Jeremy, he thinks the same thing.
But this guy paints his nails.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Okay, all right, If that's your biggest complaint, thanks for
the call. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I think people want to win football games, hopes that
quarterback doesn't turn the ball over or hopes he delivers
What was that that passed yesterday? That was it? The
DJ Moore? Yes, yeah, it was beautiful. I mean, ultimately beautiful.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I think that this is something very similar to like
when probably parents in the fifties like what are those
kids doing that, like, you know, going to school dances
or the disco or whatever the new thing in the
eight like whatever the new need a haircut or our
hair or when I was in high school, it's like
why my mom would be like why is your T
shirt down to your knees?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Like Mom, because wear big shirts. And it's like my
nephew used to wear size four X ridiculous. I remember
the clover shoot. It was like a dress. Ken in Stockton,
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up?
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Ken?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yes, sir, you too?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (15:57):
You know Martin Moore carry then love picking on me
and on Caleb? Is it today? He picked the good
answers on the AFT. No, Kansas City ain't the best team,
and now he's here on Caleb, I can't wait to
sheckle City.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I can't thank you. We did sheeckle City and I'm
on a nine game win streak and we already gave
you the pick. Go on social media and check it out. Ken,
Let's go to albert in Riverside. You're in the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Albert?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (16:32):
Rob shipting my head after your daughters take last Wednesday.
If I hate, it's not gonna be one.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Come on, man, I mean, you're not the evil umpire.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
All they do is spend a billion dollars in the
off season. I'm just saying that.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
But let's go.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
Let's go back to back for then.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
You can bring that up.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Okay, hey, Albert, the last National League team to go
back to back?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Do you know.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
It was the Red Right Machine?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yep, seventy seventy seventy five, seventy six. Yeah, I don't believe,
all right, But.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Anyway, I'm Caleb. Yeah, Caleb, He's what he said. He's
still he'd be very good off off the pocket and
our schedule. Yeah, but when it comes to like being
in the pocket and plan taking his checkdown.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
He's still very shaking.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
So I think for the Bears, they should go with
the breenstruck at Ben Johnson and get Ben Johnson there
to helping him play more fundamental football because he's still
very shaking when it comes.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
To back an offensive line. Don't they need improvement on
the offensive line?
Speaker 9 (17:29):
Oh yeah, that's future sure, because because yeah, watched not
Getting yesterday. They were shocking him like like crazy. They
had like what like six seven sacks or something things
like that. Complete it's being chased.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Some of that is him hold on to the ball
too long. I think some of it is look at
the coaching staff around him. Does he trust where his
checkdown is supposed to be? I think a lot that
has I don't. We can't measure quantification having Shane Waldron,
having Thomas Brown, having this this jumble all happening for
Caleb Blooms right now. Now, if it was still looked
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like this a year from today, like we're talking Thanksgiving
twenty twenty five, and we've seen no progression, then you
can look all right, well, okay, let's look but after
thirteen somebody's supposed to give him the answers.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Thirteen games in ye, coach from Georgia. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, coach?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
That's how we're doing.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
They just comment break out chicag and I would like
to come in also, O K see if that's okay,
rock out as well. Okay, First of all, Taylor dynamic
talent no question. But it's about coaching. We're inspecting. I
just say we collectively these young quarterbacks. You got a
coach and through the game, and sometimes you have to
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take the ball out of a young quarterbacks hand. Talk
to me about just look at some of your legends.
You're promos, if you're prescotch you what's the guy from
Atlanta Falcons, previous quarterbacks, Matt Ryan, great quarterbacks, but just
what if coach had to take the ball out of
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their hand because they're gonna throw from first forty guns
and do something stupid in the game and turn that
suck over. And I'm not saying that about Caleb. He's
a donator of talent, but you gotta coach him all
the way through. You can't put the whole game in
this young quarterback's hand, who's playing against elite talent.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And I think when you when you look at bow Knicks,
that's what's happening there. Do we think bow Knicks just
figured out the NFL? Because I don't. I think Sean
Payton is dialing it up for him and he's got
one or two options every play, and bow Knicks has
played enough football to be able to side between one
two a run. That's how it's working in Denver right now,
All right, what's your what's your.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Other point, coach about Casey?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Here's the deal. Why you asked the question. You say,
what team is better than Casey? I'm not necessarily Casey thing.
I'm a generic fan. To be honest with you, guess
what you're gonna tell me, Kate Ron And I'm not
trying to attack you, but if you're gonna tell me
Casey is supposed to be uh what eleven and three?
Whatever and three? And I'm gonna say, and I'm gonna say,
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the Panthers' supposed to be you know what, they don't
beat themselves exactly. They don't beat themselves no other but other.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But but it's not it's not one team. It's a
number of teams in those situations. And that's all I'm
saying like that, That's that's all I'm saying is that
there's some luck involved as well. And and somebody brought
it up. Let's just be honest. They the the video
of Andy Reid and those guys, they had to look
on their face of pure shock that that they couldn't
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even snap the ball and they fumble in that situation.
That's all. Appreciate that, all right, appreciate that, coach. Uh
do we have one time to squeeze in one more?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Let me see uh Drew in New Jersey real quick.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drew?
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Hey, guys right into it. So when I get Caleb,
I look at the comp that everyone was saying Patrick Mahoons.
I don't see Patrick Mahons. I look at Russell Wilson.
I think the body type height wise, I think that's
to a key, that's who he is. And I think
what got Russell Wilson successful early was that run game
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he had. Yes, So what I'm saying is, go get
Ben Johnson, get jen Kee from Boise State, and build
that O line and run the ball and then let
let let Caleb do some bootlegs as he's athletic.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You remember early on with Dak Prescott, what what was
work for him? Well, they ran the ball, they ran
the ball. And I remember Tony Dundee got in trouble
when uh Dak got hurt and he said on the
air it was a blessing in disguise. Now the Cowboys
can go back to running a football, you know what
(21:54):
I mean. He didn't mean it like they wanted Dak
to be hurt, but he was saying they had stopped
running the football, and that's where he excelled big time
early on. Thanks so much, Crew, I think that's a
good cop. Appreciate young Ross to young Calob.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I don't hate it. I don't hate it one bit.
All right, coming up, we're gonna talk with former NFL
quarterback Sean King. There you go, Sean King. I wanted
to stay down with the King, Sean King, but first
let's get you caught up with mister Steve de Seger.
Hello again.
Speaker 12 (22:24):
We did have an NFL game today, Kansas City hosted
Las Vegas and the Chiefs beat him nineteen seventeen. So
the Raiders have lost eighth straight Las Vegas and at
least they're consistent. In the final seconds down at the
Chiefs thirty two, the Raiders fumbled a snap Casey recovered,
So the Raiders had nine penalties one hundred one yards.
Brock Bauers rookie tight end did have ten recements. He
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looked good one hundred and forty yards and a tdaight
and O'Connell a couple of touchdown passes in the second half,
but the Chiefs win by two. The Bears fired head
coach Matt eber Flew. Chicago has lost six straight games.
Washington running back off Ston Eckler out with a concussion
this weekend. Running back Brian Robinson practice fully after a
sprained ankle. Detroit linebacker Malcolm Rodriguez is out for the
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year with the torn ACLS. Detroit is signing linebacker Kwan Alexander.
There is college football on Fox TV underway Utah at UCF. Meanwhile,
at number seven Georgia early second quarter Georgia Tech shutting
out the Bulldogs three to nothing. Number fourteen Ole Miss
beat Mississippi State twenty six fourteen twenty fifth rank Colorado
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shut out Oklahoma State fifty two nothing Oklahoma State oh
to nine. In the Big Twelve Conference, eleventh ran Boise
State now eleven and one after beating Oregon State thirty
four to eighteen. Currently, it's Nebraska leading at Iowa three
nothing early in the second quarter. Minnesota won at Wisconsin
today twenty four to seven. As for the NBA, among
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the ten games, Memphis won, it's fifth in a row
downing New Orleans won twenty twenty oh nine. Luca Donzitch
and the MAVs is doubtful for Saturday with his wrist injury,
although he did return to practice today. In college hoops,
West Virginia in overtime beat Arizona in a third place
tournament game battle for Atlantis and at a tournament championship
in San Diego, a number thirteen Purdue has beaten number
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twenty three Old Miss eighty to seventy eight.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Back to you all right, thanks Steve, appreciate it. It
is the Odd Couple on a funky flashback Black Friday
edition of The Odd Couple coming to your line from
the tyrack dot Com studios. And guess what It's time
for us to be down with the King? Sean King,
the former NFL quarterback and Fox Sports Radio NFL analysts.
(24:33):
What's happening, Sean? How is the Thanksgiving with you and
the fam?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Ah gobble gobble Thanksgiving for everybody? Man? I am stuffed.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh man, you did it. You did it up big wow.
I hear you.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Everybody man, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
We were just talking about Caleb Williams. I know you
want that hot on him. Where were you on Caleb
and he set a rookie record two hundred and twelve
passing attempts, no interceptions at a good second half against
the Lions. Where are you on Caleb in his progress?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I think the Bears are doing him a huge disk service.
I just don't understand these organizations. If you don't believe
in the head coach or the offensive coordinator, then why
let them select Caleb Williams to have any influence and
impact or if he ends up living up to his potential.
I just don't understand these organizations. Like they had the
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number one pick in the draft and they let Matt
ebra Flus and Shane Waldron select Caleb, and now they're
going to make their young quarterbacks start all the way
over next year, new head coach, new culture, new OC,
new system. It's amazing to be as smart as the
people that own these NFL teams are that they consistently
screw up this position.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Now, let me ask you this. Though we saw a
first year CJ. Stroud had a bust out year, right,
he didn't. He went to a new situation. Is that different?
Or the same wing with Jayden Daniels. Is that different?
What's different?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Well, everybody that comes into the NFL is coming into
a new system. I'm saying, going into year.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Two, he doesn't get the build run up.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
To a young quarterback time to start over. So what
I'm saying, they're gonna set Caleb Williams back Now. He's
already been inconsistent because he's trying to figure out how
to play his style of game at the NFL level.
And so now instead of spitting this off, it's kind
of self scout and kind of figuring out what he
did well, what he didn't do well getting to the
(26:36):
Mexico on the system, he has learned a whole new system,
new language, the verbage is different, the philosophies are different.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
But you can't stick with something that's not working though, right,
I mean, you know he's saying that they probably should
have made a coaching change before drafting kayleb Wils.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Right, what I'm saying, Roberts, why let ebra Flus have
any influence to impact on Caleb if you were going
to fire him and things didn't go right.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Now, Sean, I'm want to ask you because the first
hour of the show we talked about Antonio Pears everybody's
solution to that hire Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Right, that's the solution. All right, now we're talking about
Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
If we took a bunch of calls right before you
came on their solution for Kayla Williams, hire Ben Johnson?
What is Do you think that Ben Johnson is going
to be a good NFL head coach? Because sometimes, like
I just say it, like this, your offensive lineman throwing
pass attemption in the first quarter.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
That's cool when you have a good defense and you're
not the head guy.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But if you're the head guy doing that type of stuff,
I feel like me sitting here in this seat, I
chastise you a little bit. He feels a little Brandon
Staley on the offensive side of the ball to me
with some of the decision making. But everybody seems to
have some Pennsylvan as the next great NFL head coach?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Where are you?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You got me?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Okay, okay. I'll say this about Ben Johnson, and I
think he's gonna be very interesting off season. I don't
know if he's a guy necessarily motivated just to be
a head coach at the NFL level. I think he
only leaves Detroit for the perfect job or for the
right situation and going to the Raiders who don't have
a quarterback, who probably I mean, this isn't the year
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to need a quarterback. This quarterback class is very average
in my opinion, especially when you get past Sadure, Sanders
and cam Ward. So if you're being Johnson, I mean, remember, guys,
he turned down jobs last year to stay in Detroit.
I don't think he's going to leave for it just
any job. I wouldn't take the Chicago job and be
under the same GM that's made mistakes the last couple
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of years. In Ryan Poles sot me inter reasons has
been leave Detroit. I don't think that's a guarantee that
he leaves Detroit, not because he won't have options, but
because he might not like the options that are available.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Sure, Kansas City Chiefs win again by the say of the.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Wins and win Rob, I.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Get that, But when you see this offense red on
four field goals one touchdown, what's happened there? I mean, seriously, Sean, like,
what's happened with the offense? I don't they get to
the red zone? Tody? Like they're not getting there? They
just can't.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I agree, I agree. I don't think they have explosive playmakers.
You look at them, Travis Kelcey, he doesn't want like
he used to. DeAndre Hopkins never has been a Blazer,
but he doesn't want like he used to. And the
rest of those skilled guys are really just guys. You know.
They're not an explosive team from an athleticism standpoint, but
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they're finding ways to win because they have championship grit
that may be enough to win. What would this be
three in a row and maybe we'll find out. It's
gonna be fascinating to watch. But again, I'm not impressed
with them. I don't think they're dominant, but they're gonna
be a tough out for anybody.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Rob is there a team? And I agree with that.
They they're not gonna lay layo, you know, roll over.
But you keep getting lucky with some teams that you're
gonna finally face some better team teams and Buffalo maybe
not going to miss the field goal this time, or
or the Ravens are going to run the ball with
Derek Henwy you know what I mean, and you and
you finally get knocked out.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So to that point, I wonder, is there a team
in the AFC that you would have definitively ahead of
the Chiefs, even though they haven't been impressive.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I think everybody has flaws. I mean, Baltimore's defense looks
terrible at times, their passing game looks enough at times
and at other times when they look like, you know,
they're gonna waltz through the playoffs Buffalo. I mean, can
they get it done with that group of pass catchers?
I mean, we'll find out. I mean, is Ada Mark
(30:38):
Cooper gonna be enough? I Mean, the most fascinating team
to me is in the NFC, and that's the Philadelphia
Eagles because they've kind of been flying under the radar.
Detroit has been getting a lot of the pub people
been talking about the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think the Eagles are better than the lines now.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I know, I know the Eagles could be the team.
I mean, they're they're talented. I mean, to me, that
the most talented.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Roster, and they got the experience. They went to the
Super Bowl two years ago.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
They did, so I think that's the team to watch
if I'm being honest this point.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You know, the Eagles worst red zone than the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, but they got the push push, so.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
So he said they got the ace to hole uh
as far as uh you know, I mean uh Sa Kwan.
With the Big Game on national television Sunday night, everybody
kind of said, yeah, he's he's in the MVP. Conversation.
Do you see a running back actually winning uh the
m v P or this? I think it's turned into
(31:40):
a quarterback award. And the thing that I look at
is I look at uh you know where Lamar is
from his numbers last year's numbers are off the charts
this year and they really really are. I don't know
how he can't get the m v P again.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm what have probably happened, Rob And I don't have
any idea how this is even possible, but it happens
every year. Uh it happened to Cooper Cup. The year
the Rams went to the Super Bowl, Lamarrow probably went
m v P and sat Quana win Offensive Player of
the Year. Now, how that how those two can be
different is unbelievable. Play right kind of winning are?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
They just should be like baseball, where you have right,
you have an MVP, you have a Cy Young, you
know what I mean? Like the quarterback needs like.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
A Cy Young award, right, because how can how can
the NFL MVP not be the Offensive Player of the
Year if he's an offensive player, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
He's not like out here like you know what I'm saying,
you guys playing both ways in the league doesn't make
any sense.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
All right, you got any picks for us this week?
You were wrong though about who you call last week.
Then you have some somebody up winning the game out right.
I can't remember Sean, don't mind him. He's nine to
zero in sheckl City in his last nine picks.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
So that's what happened, is you saw I hadn't remember
I had. I said Prince Minnesota had a chance to
beat Penn State. That was it.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
That was the one, all right. I'm just saying, I
remember I listened to your picks, and I thought about
you when they didn't get it done.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
That's all what they covered they covered. That's so I
got two more dogs tomorrow that I like. Don't look now,
but Lincoln Ronny got the Trozans Detroit kind of playing
a little better football after the quarterback change. Guess who's
coming to town, Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So what you're saying, Lincoln Roley's going to be Notre
Dame in this game.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
I'm saying, I like the Trojans plus and seven and
a half, and I think they got a chance to
win outright. The other yes, the other game that I
like is Texas A and M plus five and a half.
This is going to be a fourth quarter game to
not be surprised.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
What's that game again? Give it to me.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Texas A and M plus five and a half. They're
playing Texas. The other game is USC plus seven and
a half. Take the points, but I think both underdogs
can win outright.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Sean Rudy for anarchy, I know.
Speaker 12 (34:01):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Lost last night. Everybody to lose.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
That was a toughis all right? Hey there he is,
Sean King. Sean appreciate you, no doubt. We'll talk to
you next week. Sean King, former NFL quarterback and of
course Fox Sports Radio NFL analysts. All right, coming up next,
a little Black Friday fun from the Odd Couple. We
(34:27):
want to find out if people still are into it?
Do they go shopping?
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
The old days there used to be big lines and
people trying to get to, you know, one product. I
don't think those days are anymore, or is just all
online we'll talk about that and more. It is the
odd couple. Fox Sports Radio stick and stay unless you're
voting for anarchy in the US of A.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
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Speaker 2 (35:01):
All right, let it breathe. It is the odd couple
on a funky flashback Friday. Black Friday it is, and
we are broadcasting live from the tire rack dot com studios.
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All right, today is Black Friday. We talked about that. Uh,
did you guys do any shopping you're looking for TV?
Do you partake in Black Friday? You said you went
to them all a couple of days before, But normally
(35:47):
do you try to find deals on Black Friday?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I mean, I'll click around, I'll peruse, but I'm not
necessarily locked in. I don't have like big expenses that
are have I think that's really what the situation would
have to be for me to be locked in on
Black Friday.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I'd be like, oh, you know what my TV happened
to break on Halloween?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Now wait or something like that for Black Friday to
try to buy it, you know, one that's radically discounted.
But I generally have a rule if I won't pay
full price or something, I'm not going to buy it
just because it's on sale.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
So even if it's on sale, you won't buy it.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, like unless I was willing to pay full price,
right Like, if it was something that I already wanted
and it was on sale, then I might get it.
But just because it's like, oh look this is ninety
eight percent off, you won't buy it. No, Okays, it
has to be something. If I see a.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Good deal on something, like a really good deal, I'll
jump on it because I always feel like like that's
how I get some of the clothes that I have.
It'll be like a six hundred and ninety five dollars
jacket and it's been marked down reduced to extra twenty
five percent off, and now that jacket is one seventy five.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
To the jacket that you would have bought if it
was like at six, I wouldn't have paid. You know,
I want to pay six ninety five. But I'm saying
if you paid, if you're the person would have paid that,
let's say full price was three hundred, would you have
paid that?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
You know?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Okay, that's that's because I'm saying I'm not going to
just buy it if it's ugly because it's on sale.
But I'll look at it and I could say it
has fine quality and if and if it's marked down
and I see it, I might not have been in
the uh and you know, trying to buy a jacket
in the market for a jacket, but if I find
(37:33):
a really nice one at a really discounted rate, then
I'll buy the jacket. That's how they get you.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Well.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
But I mean, if I want to buy you, I'm
gonna need a jacket at some point.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
See this is the different I associate Black Friday with
a line out the door used to be.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
The story Pony used to go to jail over that.
We used to the bis right, I mean like like store.
They used to do it, but they had a handful
of items like at a store, right, and people would
line up at four o'clock in the morning and then
they would open the door, people would be trampled on.
And so they stopped that because it had gotten out
(38:12):
of hand. Like a store to get people to come in,
would offer four TV sets for fifteen cents, you know
what I mean each and so people everybody in their
uncle is trying to get to the electronic department to
get one of the four TV sets that you know
what I mean, cost ninety nine dollars or whatever it is,
right right, that's what's wrong with America. People don't want
(38:33):
to compete.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
But I also think though with like the whole thing
of like online shopping, because you can find better deals
online than in store.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Ye, but don't the store though sometime, right don't you?
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Like?
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Also but with COVID, like nobody goes to malls, nobody
goes Sears shut down, Cole shut down. Like who goes
to Macy's for real?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
I mean the mall still, I mean I was at
the inn. I saw two people wearing pajama pants and cliffs.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
But like, not a lot of people go to the mall.
One on as many malls, that is for sure, That's
no doubt about it. Patrick, What about you on Black Fire.
Speaker 11 (39:03):
Well, at first I was gonna be like disagreeing a
little bit with Martin was saying like I'm not gonna
buy it unless something. But then I'm like, oh, wait
a minute, like cause I don't normally, even if there's
a really good deal in something I would never really buy,
I'm never gonna go get it. I just don't like,
you know, spend my money frivolously like that. But like
if it was something that I'm like I kind of
need to find. Let's say I need a pair of shoes,
but it's not exactly the type of shoe, but it
(39:23):
looks really cool, I'm like, you know what, I could
use that, and it's like fifty percent off, I'm gonna
get that. Sure, it's gotta be something that's at least
in the wheelhouse. Is something I either need or want.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Right and for me, like like doing television, there'll be
a sport coat, like I'll see like that was fourteen
hundred dollars and it's been marked down, walked down, and
an extra twenty five percent off. And now I'm looking
at the sport coat and now it's one seventy five.
That was fourteen. I'm buying it. I'm gonna buy it
(39:52):
because you have need for it, cause I might not.
I didn't go there for that, but I'm gonna do
it all right. Our number three of the odd couple.
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