December 10, 2024 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Caitlin Clark or Shohei Ohtani was more deserving of being named TIME Magazine’s Athlete of the Year, tell us if Joe Burrow and Ja’Marr Chase are the best QB-WR duo in the NFL right now and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam swings by to discuss Clark vs Ohtani, what’s next for the Dallas Cowboys in the wake of this lost season, the highly-competitive AFC North and much more!
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But a lot to talk about, and uh, let's do this.
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How are you?
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First of all? All good?
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Good man? Yeah, everything's good.
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You know, it's been a long, crazy day obviously for
those who either have seen it or those who live
in Los Angeles. Started late last night and then carry
in the morning, we had a big wildfire, have a
big wildfire in Malibu area. So you know what I
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early call to hop in a little earlier than normal
and we did live news coverage wall to wall, non
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stopped for hours and hours about this. But so that
you know, it's one of those things. It's the nature
of the business. So but all is well, and thankfully,
at least as of now, no reports of any real injuries.
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These wildfires they when they catch and for those who
live in other parts of the country, you can't quite
fathom it unless you're here. So it's a big deal
out here.
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And I am broadcasting tonight from USC Edinburgh, where I
I am an associate professor.
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Thought, but we're doing a broadcast boo cam for soccer players.
You know.
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Uh, so we were doing that all day. We'll do
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really cool.
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Some soccer players here who want to get into broadcasting
after their playing career.
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As old start early, man, you no doubt, but let's
let's start here.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Time Magazine's Athlete of the Year was announced today and
it's Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And you believe she was the clear choice.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
And you have no issue with Time selecting Kaitlyn Clark
from the Indiana I got a fever and I don't
know what to do with it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Or you know, is that the name of the team
she plays for. Yeah, yeah, don't act like you don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You know, you don't miss a single w NBA game,
let alone a Caitlyn Clark game.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Come on, I never missed a w NBA you know, right.
I never lived watching, so I never miss it.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, I mean, you know, look, there are a couple
of contenders, like any year that you know, you could say,
don't try to steal my thunder just talk about I know,
but I'm gonna tell you it is to me, I
think it was actually a clear cut one in this
case with Caitlyn Clark what she was able to do,
and you split it up a couple of ways for
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you to get Time magazine and anything. Typically, it means
you were great at what you do, but also you
brought another narrative to this thing.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You brought a bigger storyline.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You did something globally or something that was bigger than
just simply your play. And that's what she did. So
first of all, you gotta go back. Remember she was
the darling of March Madness earlier this year, so she
was already that girl in college basketball. Women's college basketball
had everybody watching. The viewership was up in college the
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ratings were up because of her games. She had people
talking in barbershops that never talk about women's basketball, ever
talk about women's basketball. And we were having this these conversations.
A shout out to Adeuries and Juju Watkins a part
of this. Really this nice group of young female talented hoopers.
She was spearheading this. So now we got us talking
(07:02):
about college basketball. She balls on the tournament. She's doing
things we haven't seen a female hooper due hitting, just
like we didn't really see men's until Steph Curry a
decade or so sooner. Then rob, she took over college.
Now we go to the pros, and then she takes
over the pros. There's controversy in the pros. They're hitting
her around, they're pushing around, they're treating it like this.
(07:24):
This is dominating conversations. It's the lead on all the
debate shows that never happens.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Rob. Ever, you and Brusonda.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Are talking about women's college basketball, women's WNBA, and then
she starts, like most people in any sport, starts off
a little slow, gets her feet under, balls out, and
starts to set the records, were leading the league and assists,
hitting three pointers all over the place, ends up being
Rookie of the Year. And we have conversations about not
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only the actual Olympics, but who doesn't even make the Olympics.
In her she didn't even make the Olympics, and she
was the top of conversation for not even making the team,
and people thought they were crazy for keeping her off.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So to me, it was clear cut.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
When you look at the way she empowered the sport itself.
They get charter jets, They got more than fifty four
million unique viewers, which is the most ever, the most
watched WNBA games on all networks where the games she played,
all that she broke, all the WNBA home attendance records.
She got me and the Washington girls we went and
saw a game here in La the people of.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Jersey for everybody. That was the fun.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
That was the cherry called me and they said that
the Washington Cus.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, okay, So you look at what they're set to receive.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
The WNBA is set to receive two hundred million dollars
per year, which is up sixty million dollars, and she
is a large reason for that. So I just think
when I look at the economic boom because of Caitlin Clark,
the economic boom that affects not just herber all of her,
the league and the league as a whole. The viewership
that is going up dramatically because of her, and not
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to mention she was Rookie of the Year in a
heck of a player.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I just think it's she could clearcut it is her.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
We've never experienced a WNBA of women's basketball boom like
this where its leading shows we're talking about it. So
to me, I think the choice was obvious and they
got it right now.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
They could not have been more wrong on this and
Kaitlyn Clark had an impact. But first of all, you
mentioned a couple things which to me takes her out
of it. She didn't win a national championship this year
as well as she played in all the other eyeballs,
and she wasn't even on the Olympic team.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
That's your Athlete of the year.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
That makes no sense to me because along with the
other stuff, the window dressing that people want to give
Kaitlyn Clark. Can can we talk about Sho hal Tani
who in one year Okay set the market with a
seven hundred million dollar contract, had a historic fifty to
fifty year that no one has ever done in the
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history of Major League Baseball. That's been around for one
hundred and fifty years. May I not thirty years like
the WNBA, but one hundred and fifty years and no
one had ever done it. And he capped it off
with a World Series Championship show. Hal Tani was must
see TV. You could see it whenever the Dodgers were
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all nationally. Locally, he was a phenomenon. You went yourself
to spring training and tell me when you went to Arizona,
was there not a cavalcade of unbelievable fans to get
a glimpse his jersey, everything about him, and all he
did was move forty miles away from where he was
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playing and transferred made a transformation into where baseball was.
And if you want to talk about ratings, the two
thousand and four World Series between the Dodgers and the
Yankees averaged twelve point nine million in Japan alone.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Which is a world series record.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
So the combined ratings for LA and Japan twenty eight
point seven million people per game. Hands down, Shoe ha
Otani was the athlete of the Year.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
The Time magazine.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Got it wrong, and I know, Caitlin, there was a buzz,
but how in the world could have athlete sign a
seven hundred million dollar contract, go fifty to fifty for
the first time in a sport that's been around almost
two hundred years, win a World Series, and have unprecedented
TV ratings in two countries.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I mean, com I'll tell you why showy as you've
heard me talk about and even defending him against you,
going up against him and Aaron Judge and all that
show was spectacular. But this isn't about who is the
actual maybe best athlete, but Rob what makes him phenomenal.
He didn't even do. What makes him a unicorn is
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that he hits and pitches, and he didn't even pitch
this year.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
He's done it. He was more respect He was.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
More ReSpectacle the years prior to the last couple of
years because he was getting winning twenty games and in fifty.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Home runs and we never seen.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You, I'm saying, pitching in in more to more than
twenty games. We had never seen this before. That's what
made him the unicorn. It was special to see this year.
The bigger argument could be made about baseball as a
whole then o Tani. Baseball as a whole had a
mega year. Baseball as a whole had better storylines. Baseball
was more entertaining. You had the Tigers out of nowhere,
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the Yankees and Dodgers, Bolts make it to the World seats,
Oh my gosh, the Mets, where did they come from?
And all of a sudden you got Grimace becoming a thing.
So I would argue more than Otani, baseball.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Had a bigger year.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
If you're gonna go in the rankings of This Time magazine,
I think it's Kaitlyn Clark then baseball than O' Tani
and old Kaitlyn Clark is the most casual fan or
cas a person conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Everyone knows Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Oh that's that girl in the WNBA who's shooting all
those streets and doing this or causing condo.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Nobody knows Show Hal time.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
A lot of people know a lot to people Show
I just said a lot of people know Show Hal Tony,
but nobody. He didn't evoke conversations like this Tony did.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
He started the year with signing the contract that that.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
People could chief. No, that's true. So that was the
start of it.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
And then it went to the fifty to fifty, which
nobody that was the big talk. Is he gonna get
fifty to fifty and then his Dodgers win the World Series.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
This is the challenge, Rob Parkers, this is the challenge
talking to you. You love baseball, you are baseball, and
you are MLB bro. So you get in your echo
chamber and y'all get to the MLB bro it you
went Sean and Steve de Seger and y'all get your
little MLB on and you forget a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Necessarily it's not that BA is not good.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No, no, no, no, we had a This was an
amazing time covering baseball, best I've had in years. But
what I mean is Kyler Clark was starting controversy. She
ain't as good as this. She's only getting this because
she's white. No Angel Reese's start. This was bigger than anything.
This goes back to what made bird and magic and
all of these things.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It involved race, involves in the money in Earth College.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
She didn't win, she didn't make the Olympics. Kaepernick bit
time actually even playing. But this year no astute of
the year. I told you it's you can't be more
than just the actual game. But he encompassed everything. I mean, Oh,
Tony did everything. Set set the market value on on salary,
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and we passed it in a year and also won
the world Show all right, eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three
sixty nine. Who was more deserving of Time Magazine's Athlete
of the Year, Caitlyn Clark, who didn't win anything all year?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Show Tony who of the Year.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
He didn't get a team that never been to postseason
in like the last eight years. So the folks see
that conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Four, What more do you want from her? It is
the couple you want from me. It is a trash
Talking Tuesday right here on Fox Sports Radio. Stick and
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the Year for not doing enough in the USA.
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about Time Person Athlete of the Year. They gave it
to Caitlin Clark. I say they got it right.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Rob says, no, should have been show heyl Tani? What
says you? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox? Who
you got?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
All right?
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Let's kick it off with Bobby in Florida. You're on
the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Bobby?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
What's up? Big Bobby? Can we losing? Alex? All right?
Gro in Phoenix? Is that right? Gro G A.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
R O.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
You're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (16:57):
Thank you very much, Shelman for taking my call. I
want to start off by saying, I grew up in
Los Angeles, born and raised a Dodger fan, watched all
the Dodger games.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Come see when they come to Phoenix.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
But I'm gonna have to tell you when it comes
to overall what a person did for their sports and
then to get all these people, not only just fans,
but non fans. People don't even know anything about sports,
like my wife, for example, Kaylan Clark, is known much
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more because.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
Of who she is and being a woman.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Okay, you, I mean your wife doesn't never heard of
Sho hal Tani. Your wife doesn't know who that is?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Of them, she knows who it is.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
And you know, you can't take away, you can't take
away what Shoe hal Tani did and probably the greatest
season of all time.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
But you know, you gotta admit there are people out
there don't follow baseball.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
And there are and there are plenty of people who
don't follow the w NBA and don't know Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't know about that, like everybody does. No, I
don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Everybody doesn't know who she is.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I'll give you the follow the WNBA, sure, but the
idea that people don't know Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Her name, but they've heard Shoe al Tani's name. You
don't have to follow baseball dollars contract. Everybody knew his name.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Here's a great example. Wa Soto just signed seven sixty five.
You know how many people don't know that. They don't
know that some guy just signed. Kaitlyn Clark was smeared
everywhere from Good Morning America to ESPA and the Fox
to like that's a different type of notoriety than just
simply sports.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Then I just disagree. I think that she because I
get that the people knew who she was. But if
you really take a look at what he accomplished compared
to her, and it's called athlete of the year, not
not social.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Media uh, person of the year or not. We know
your name.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Because you didn't make the Olympics, and you didn't win
anything in the w n b A, and you didn't
win a national championship. I just never heard of an
athlete who didn't win anything, and yet that's the athlete
actually lost.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Like I could say she was like she didn't win
her team. What I'm saying she made it to the
final four. She she didn't win, but but she made it.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
They made the playoffs. She didn't win the team and
hadn't made the playoffs since two but they didn't win.
But the time champion of the year, it's the time
athlete of the year.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
They didn't have a stipulation if you had to win
every game or the last game of the season.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Usually somebody when when they pick athletes, it's usually they've
had some sort of historic understand it.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
No, she didn't.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
She literally set records for her five actual game play
so televiewership records.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
So television person of the year. How about call in Mobile, Alabama.
You're on the couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
Hey, Rob, As a journalist of a degree in journalism,
I usually side with you, but on this one I
have to give her the nod because when I say
Athlete of the Year, she completed a full college season,
went to the championship game, and then jumped right into
a week later, played a full WNBA season. Most players
that played college basketball have an offseason to recuperate. She
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didn't have that and went right into the WNBA and
was a pivotal player on that team led it to
the playoffs. So she led two teams into the playoffs,
and that athletically physically is challenging for anybody to do.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
So I gave her the nod, and I'll tell you
why I disagree with you.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Called when people do something that no one has ever
done in one hundred and fifty plus year history of
a sport, if you don't win Athlete of the Year
on that, then you can't win it. I mean, what
are we talking about. Nobody ever did fifty to fifty.
The game's been around for a gazillion years. If you
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don't win athlete of the year that year?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
What year would you win?
Speaker 9 (21:10):
It?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
The year in which a woman basketball player dominated all
the sports talk shows, including you your own Dago sports
pre me being here, y'all were talking about it. Everybody
was talking about it. You know you didn't talk about
you didn't talk about Swin Cash. You know you didn't
talk about you didn't talk about Canas Parker talk to everybody?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Talk to Rob g and ask about our podcast about
Joe hail Tani against Aaron Judge And what was our
top podcast?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
It wasn't Kaitlyn Clark. Okay, I believe not Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I believe you.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But I'm saying shows leading with a w first of all,
a college women's player then turned w NBA player then
turned didn't even make the Olympic team, and it was
the biggest conversation.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
That's that's just a remarkable thing. Got to give it
to her in that regard as well.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
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Speaker 2 (22:26):
E from Salam on Twitter, Ephraim, what's up man? How
are you?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
What's happening man? How y'all doing? We?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
God?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Man, you're a hoo fan. Time Magazine Athlete of the Year.
Caitlyn Clark is who I said? I agree, I think
they got it right, shoel Tani whos Rob said, what
do you think who got it?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And maybe you think somebody else should have gotten it?
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Say that again? Y'all mumbling? Were y'all talking together to
say it one more time?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
No, Caitlyn Clark was Time Magazine Athlete of the Year,
and then you have.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I said it should be Shohey signed a seven hundred
million dollar contract fifty to fifty first time ever won
a World Series. Kaitlin didn't win the NCAA Championship, didn't
make the Olympic team, and didn't win the WNBA Championship.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
What am I missing a lot?
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Well? Look and first of all, both of you guys
are right, how rare is that? But what I will say,
I will I know right, I will say this, what
Caitlyn Clark did for the WNBA, the WNBA had been
trying to do since its inception in ninety six. All Right,
she for whatever reason galvanized the country, the world in
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support of women's basketball. So even though she didn't win
the NCAA championship, she didn't win the WNBA championship, what
she meant to the sport, whether people want to you know,
agree with that, that are not the proofers in the putting.
They have chartered flights. Now things have changed with long fifty.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Million dollars to WNBA. They didn't turn they didn't turn
around like overnight.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
They they've been losing money.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
They're still they're still attracting five thousand people to most
of their games.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I mean, I think people are over over over said it.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
No, no, Look what she's meant to the WNBA, I
think is tremendous. Have another year like he had this year,
probably because he's from well Monty.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Thing is, no one has ever done a fifty to fifty.
The baseball has been a one hundred and fifty years.
If you can't win Athlete of the Year doing something
in the sport that's been around for that long and
we've never seen I've never seen a guy do something
we've never seen and not be rewarded for that.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
He was rewarded at seven hundred million dollars. I think
he's okay.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Ron.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I don't think you'll not getting Time magazine Athlete of.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
The Year Kalen Clark making seventy million dollars I mean
seventy thousand dollars a year. I think he will be okay.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, I'm I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Uh you jump into football, you want to go into
last night Ephram Man with the Uh with what Joe
Burrow is doing. Have you seen anything like this where
guys putting out these amazing number leading in pretty much
all the passing categories, his number one receivers leading and
all the receiving categories, yet they are not having such
team success. They're five and eight and and but so
(25:34):
then now you look at him as you can't say
he can't beat the MVP, because god forbid, he's only
five and eight.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It's about winning, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Ephraim it is about winning. And if he's on a
team that eight and five, this is a different conversation.
But at five and eight they muddled around like they've
done the last three years. At the beginning of the season.
They don't take September period, right, the Bengals have never
(26:03):
taken September series. And it's coming back to bite them
because sometimes you can dig a hole, right, if you're
not buttoned up, you can dig a hole so deep
you can't recover from it. They spend a lot of
time with hole dolls and who's gonna do this? And
is Joe Burrow healthy? And now he is one of
(26:24):
the premier quarterbacks in the NFL, but they don't have
a record to show for it. So you won't get
the notoriety and the accolade and the acclaim because you
you're sub five hundred. You're not going to make the playoffs.
And so you had no bells and whistles come from
a team, come, you know, for a player on a
(26:46):
team that's not going to even make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Yeah, I think people Joe Burrow, that was it Chris
Canty from a ESPN who trashed him. Always still living
off that Super Bowl and this and that. The dude,
when he from is healthy, is one of the best
quarterbacks in the Leno. I mean the only time he
hasn't played well is when he's been heard that guy
is amazing.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Yeah. Both. The problem is you got to have that
type of success on the team. So I don't know
whether it's you know, organizational uh, head coach, whatever that is.
It's not translating into wins. And it doesn't help that
they're in the division that they're in, all right. They're
in the division where uh you know they're in I
(27:32):
call it head busters. They're in the head busting division
where you if you if you're not buttoned up, if
you're not clicking on all cylinders, you can't help. But
see where you are, look at the look at the
quarterbacks in that division, the team and the coaching in
that division.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, I mean they're always like that. Man, that that division.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
What do you go if you're the Cowboys?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I mean, obviously they lose a home home dinner may
be a show, right, I mean it's pretty brutal.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I mean, what do you do next year? What Mike?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
You know they're hedging on Mike McCarthy is not his fault.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Should bring him back, but they didn't give him a
contract going in knowing he was a lame dug. It's
just all backwards with the Cowboys. You wouldn't put the
coach through that. And now you have a terrible season
and you resign the coach. Does that make sense?
Speaker 6 (28:22):
No? No, Look, the thing that has to happen, in
my opinion for the Dallas Cowboys is they have to
do something dramatic. They have to do something so far
outside the lines of reality to shock the system. All right,
they held pat, they stood pat all off season, yep, right,
dealing with these two holdouts, the quarterback situation, ceedee lamb.
(28:46):
They did all of those things. They did not improve
that roster by any stretch of the imagination. And so
now they are where they are. Right. You don't go
get Derrick Henry, you don't even try.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And youkiel Elliott who has no sense.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
And so to me, you have to do something shocking.
I don't know whether you move up, is it takes
your door, is it try to blure Dion to be
the coach. But it has to be something on along
the lines of where everybody's like, oh we didn't see
that coming because what you've done customarily is you've just
(29:25):
been mediocre. Even in your successful season, you really don't
have anything, uh to hang your head on. Right like
the last two years prior to this year, they were
sixteen and oh at home during the regular season. They
couldn't win the game at home right now if you
if you try, and that's the reason, because they did that,
(29:48):
they need to shake that thing up. I don't know
how they're going to sign Michael Parsons. If I was them,
I would trade them get some other pieces. I'm with you,
it got to be something that's outside.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Of the oh well, if we're asking Jerry Jones to
do that to make the right decision, I don't know
how that's gonna work out. I'm our guests right now
in the odd couple, Rod Parker, Kelvin Washington. All right, Ephram,
you are a one of the assistant coaches or a
head coach, or just somebody involved in one of these
teams in the AFC, and you've watched this whole season.
You're the Steelers, you're the Ravens, you are the Bills,
(30:23):
and you look at the Chiefs and you say, man,
I don't know if they suck, they're good, they're great,
I don't know what's going on. How do you go
about attacking them? How do you say this is our
year because they aren't doing X this year.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Look, the one thing you have to do when you're
facing the Chiefs is you have to be very vigilant
and very adamant to your team about not beating yourself.
Thank you, we've seen them, we've seen them win games.
They have no at least five this year, right, no
business winning. But what happens is they're not going to
(31:00):
make mistakes. That's the difference. They're going to allow you
to make mistakes. And that's what happens. You know it,
you missed the field goal, you snapped the ball when
you're not supposed to. But it's just so it's unbelievable.
And so what you've got to really harp harp on
(31:21):
your team about is being vigilant. You cannot make mistakes.
You have to be conscious everything, you have to focus.
You're not gonna beat Andy Reid and Patrick mahomes uh
and and spec Nola like you're not going to beat
them if you're beating yourself pre stap, pre uh snap
(31:43):
penalties of not being buttoned up on special teams, all
of those things. Man, if you're not locked in, they
will beat you every single time.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
And then the last party from uh if that was
the Raiders that kicked the field goal that hit the
up right, it would have bounced out and.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Not all right.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
On the strip.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Would It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
The best part about that is, Ephraim that Rob doesn't
want to give the Chiefs credit for the fact that
these teams have these mental errors or overthink or get
nervous or get outside themselves.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
That's because of playing the Chiefs, and you get nervous
because they're bad.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Right, the Chiefs can't be bad if they have the
record there. It's blowing my mind.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yes, and this is what I keep trying to tell
this man six and seven or something like that they
should be if if was the fifth.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Rob, come on now, I'll be doing that's right, hey.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Man, Ephraim, Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
We appreciate it. Brother. I have a great rest of
the week.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
We got Shekel City on deck.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
See what you end up doing and Rob and also
again we have the conversation about Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
How great they've been.
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Speaker 7 (33:48):
Welcome to Shekel City, the home base for Rob Parker's
daily Dix against the Spread.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
All right, checko City one and two. Last night.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Ninety one eighty nine and two is the total. Let's
go we got the Knicks minus six and a half
taking on the Hawks. We got the Thunder minus four
and a half. They host the Mavericks, and I'm gonna
take the Warriors on the road at the Rockets. Rockets
are good one and a half. So the Warriors getting
(34:27):
one and a half points, the Thunder minus four and
a half and the Knicks minus six and a half.
And remember, I'm not telling you who to bet on, Kelvin,
I'm telling you who I bet on.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, I mean you want to run just that number
you said, ninety one, Now ninety one eighty nine and two. Yes,
I didn't even realize he was above five hundred.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
I was.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I was in the in the toilet for a minute. Yeah,
you can almost start preaching.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
You know. I was over, but I didn't came back
rising like Lazarus up in this thing. I'm proud of you, hey,
like big time. You did back well. Going back to
the conversation we're having with ephrem Man, this is a dude.
Sometimes in sports like this it's our job. You know,
we come on, we dissect what we see. Sometimes, you know,
(35:12):
it's debate, sometimes it's you know, all that good stuff.
Every now and again, Man, don't you just enjoy watching
people like, man, that person here or she they're great,
And you know that's what that to me. Sometimes what
I think is lost in our what we do is
because people have to come on and I got that
criticize this and that team, ain't this or that person
ain't that? And watching man Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase
(35:35):
they know each other. They play it in college. Now
they're playing in the pros. Like these dudes are just
remarkable at what they do and the team is not great.
And aphramag you know, we all know he brought up
how they historically start slow.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And they got a little bad. Remember when when Aaron.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Rodgers just relax relax Except for him, it actually worked
for them. They'll relaxed and we're gonna be better. Isn't
necessarily working, but just watch what they do. That connection
they have, man, it's ridiculous. I mean, a couple of
touchdowns one hundred and seventy seven yards for Jamar Chase.
You got the coach coming out saying, I know we
gave we have fourteen receptions, but we still could have
(36:11):
give him some more, like he's just that great man.
And then obviously with Joe Burrow's doing so sometimes I
just enjoy the fact that I don't like to dissect
it as much as just as a fan of sports
like man, these two are.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
That's a great connection right there.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Agree with you to a certain extent.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
But then when you don't win, you know, you always
look at the numbers, and I'm saying they won last night.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
But right right now, what you mean, yeah, is you
start to question the numbers.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
And you do because are they piling up numbers because
they are out of games and people are allowing you.
I always struggle with that with Matthew Stafford's numbers and
Calvin Johnson with the Lions during those bad years. You notice,
Kelvin because you watched the game, they were down twenty
one to nothing most games in the first quarter, am
I right?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Like they were down the Cardiac Cats because they always
had to come back and have last minute second heroics.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
And because they were down and then you would have
teams would allow you to throw the ball in front
of them right like they will give you.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
The Yeah, the best part of Matthew Stafford was to
your point, when they let's say they're down ten and
the fourth with eight minutes left.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That was when he was at his best, because now
he just you know what, screwed it. I'm flinging that thing.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Let me just get let the backyard football, sand lot football,
Let me let that thing fly.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
And that was to me when he would get at
his best, just you know, doing it. By the way,
that was another great connection too, those two, My goodness,
I mean that was but they.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Didn't win anything, and that's why people don't talk about
them as a connection. At least the Chiefs. I mean,
the Bengals have gone to the Super Bowl. Stafford and
Calvin Johnson together zero and three in the postseason. So
that's why people never you know what I mean, Yeah,
you know, it's raved about them as a as a
as a connection.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
You know what's bad about that rob The one three
is almost a compliment to the meeting man. They got
to the postseason three times. Like all right, I'll take it.
That's how bad it was. As a linesman, You're like, well, shoot,
we ain't win, but we got to the postseason because
it was that bad man. Uh So, yeah, it was.
They didn't get it done, but they at least had
(38:18):
something going on. Now we know college sports is all
changing because of the nil, but it's changing drastically. When
the number one player is going where, We'll tell you
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don't we, Calvin. We got an actor coming up.
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We do.
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We try to, you know, keep your variety on this
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got going on. So looking forward to having a conversation
and just a little bit we have coming up. John mcgaro,
gonna be This is a film that I did. I
had a conversation with La Times folks on we did
this show called La Times The Envelope. We interview a
bunch of actors. One of the actors was in it
(02:33):
as well as called September five. You might remember the
crisis that happened in nineteen seventy two in Munich at
the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Show up with this film is a bombas foot Howard
Cosell and the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Right, yeah, yeah, And so that's the film is about
how ABC broadcasted live something that now we have conversations
about what do we air, what's not the air, what
do we put on social media?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
What should we not? Are things too sensitive? Do we
show violence?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And based around those real life decisions that had to
be made on that day. So John mcgaro, September five,
I haven't seen it yet, fully, I've seen pieces. I'm
looking forward to that conversation as well.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
No doubt that'll be very interesting to uh to see
and talk to him coming up.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
That's in our number two.
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Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yes, we have heard about what we have heard of
from you know, you know we just we say mentioned
him every day, never heard of him. I love that.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
But a lot to talk about, and uh, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
First of all? All good?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Good man? Yeah, everything's good.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
You know, it's been a long, crazy day obviously for
those who either have seen it or those who live
in Los Angeles. Started late last night and then carry
in the morning, we had a big wildfire, have a
big wildfire in Malibu area. So you know what I
do the day job is doing news, So got the
early call to hop in a little earlier than normal
and we did live news coverage wall to wall, non
(04:22):
stopped for hours and hours about this. But so that
you know, it's one of those things. It's the nature
of the business. So but all is well, and thankfully,
at least as of now, no reports of any real injuries.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
But you know, it is living out here, man.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
These wildfires they when they catch and for those who
live in other parts of the country, you can't quite
fathom it unless you're here. So it's a big deal
out here.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
No doubt.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
And I am broadcasting tonight from USC Edinburgh, where I
I am an associate professor.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Your new head coach would no, no, no, I.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Thought, but we're doing a broadcast boo cam for soccer players.
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Uh, so we were doing that all day. We'll do
it again tomorrow, some sessions and stuff. So it was
really cool.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Some soccer players here who want to get into broadcasting
after their playing career.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
As old start early, man, you no doubt, but let's
let's start here.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Time Magazine's Athlete of the Year was announced today and
it's Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And you believe she was the clear choice.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
And you have no issue with Time selecting Kaitlyn Clark
from the Indiana I got a fever and I don't
know what to do with it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Or you know, is that the name of the team
she plays for. Yeah, yeah, don't act like you don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You know, you don't miss a single w NBA game,
let alone a Caitlyn Clark game.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Come on, I never missed a w NBA you know, right.
I never lived watching, so I never miss it.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, I mean, you know, look, there are a couple
of contenders, like any year that you know, you could say,
don't try to steal my thunder just talk about I know,
but I'm gonna tell you it is to me, I
think it was actually a clear cut one in this
case with Caitlyn Clark what she was able to do,
and you split it up a couple of ways for
(06:11):
you to get Time magazine and anything. Typically, it means
you were great at what you do, but also you
brought another narrative to this thing.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You brought a bigger storyline.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You did something globally or something that was bigger than
just simply your play. And that's what she did. So
first of all, you gotta go back. Remember she was
the darling of March Madness earlier this year, so she
was already that girl in college basketball. Women's college basketball
had everybody watching. The viewership was up in college the
(06:42):
ratings were up because of her games. She had people
talking in barbershops that never talk about women's basketball, ever
talk about women's basketball. And we were having this these conversations.
A shout out to Adeuries and Juju Watkins a part
of this. Really this nice group of young female talented hoopers.
She was spearheading this. So now we got us talking
(07:02):
about college basketball. She balls on the tournament. She's doing
things we haven't seen a female hooper due hitting, just
like we didn't really see men's until Steph Curry a
decade or so sooner. Then rob, she took over college.
Now we go to the pros, and then she takes
over the pros. There's controversy in the pros. They're hitting
her around, they're pushing around, they're treating it like this.
(07:24):
This is dominating conversations. It's the lead on all the
debate shows that never happens.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Rob. Ever, you and Brusonda.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Are talking about women's college basketball, women's WNBA, and then
she starts, like most people in any sport, starts off
a little slow, gets her feet under, balls out, and
starts to set the records, were leading the league and assists,
hitting three pointers all over the place, ends up being
Rookie of the Year. And we have conversations about not
(07:53):
only the actual Olympics, but who doesn't even make the Olympics.
In her she didn't even make the Olympics, and she
was the top of conversation for not even making the team,
and people thought they were crazy for keeping her off.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So to me, it was clear cut.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
When you look at the way she empowered the sport itself.
They get charter jets, They got more than fifty four
million unique viewers, which is the most ever, the most
watched WNBA games on all networks where the games she played,
all that she broke, all the WNBA home attendance records.
She got me and the Washington girls we went and
saw a game here in La the people of.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Jersey for everybody. That was the fun.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
That was the cherry called me and they said that
the Washington Cus.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, okay, So you look at what they're set to receive.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
The WNBA is set to receive two hundred million dollars
per year, which is up sixty million dollars, and she
is a large reason for that. So I just think
when I look at the economic boom because of Caitlin Clark,
the economic boom that affects not just herber all of her,
the league and the league as a whole. The viewership
that is going up dramatically because of her, and not
(09:00):
to mention she was Rookie of the Year in a
heck of a player.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I just think it's she could clearcut it is her.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
We've never experienced a WNBA of women's basketball boom like
this where its leading shows we're talking about it. So
to me, I think the choice was obvious and they
got it right now.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
They could not have been more wrong on this and
Kaitlyn Clark had an impact. But first of all, you
mentioned a couple things which to me takes her out
of it. She didn't win a national championship this year
as well as she played in all the other eyeballs,
and she wasn't even on the Olympic team.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
That's your Athlete of the year.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
That makes no sense to me because along with the
other stuff, the window dressing that people want to give
Kaitlyn Clark. Can can we talk about Sho hal Tani
who in one year Okay set the market with a
seven hundred million dollar contract, had a historic fifty to
fifty year that no one has ever done in the
(09:57):
history of Major League Baseball. That's been around for one
hundred and fifty years. May I not thirty years like
the WNBA, but one hundred and fifty years and no
one had ever done it. And he capped it off
with a World Series Championship show. Hal Tani was must
see TV. You could see it whenever the Dodgers were
(10:21):
all nationally. Locally, he was a phenomenon. You went yourself
to spring training and tell me when you went to Arizona,
was there not a cavalcade of unbelievable fans to get
a glimpse his jersey, everything about him, and all he
did was move forty miles away from where he was
(10:45):
playing and transferred made a transformation into where baseball was.
And if you want to talk about ratings, the two
thousand and four World Series between the Dodgers and the
Yankees averaged twelve point nine million in Japan alone.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Which is a world series record.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
So the combined ratings for LA and Japan twenty eight
point seven million people per game. Hands down, Shoe ha
Otani was the athlete of the Year.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
The Time magazine.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Got it wrong, and I know, Caitlin, there was a buzz,
but how in the world could have athlete sign a
seven hundred million dollar contract, go fifty to fifty for
the first time in a sport that's been around almost
two hundred years, win a World Series, and have unprecedented
TV ratings in two countries.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I mean, com I'll tell you why showy as you've
heard me talk about and even defending him against you,
going up against him and Aaron Judge and all that
show was spectacular. But this isn't about who is the
actual maybe best athlete, but Rob what makes him phenomenal.
He didn't even do. What makes him a unicorn is
(11:56):
that he hits and pitches, and he didn't even pitch
this year.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
He's done it. He was more respect He was.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
More ReSpectacle the years prior to the last couple of
years because he was getting winning twenty games and in fifty.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Home runs and we never seen.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You, I'm saying, pitching in in more to more than
twenty games. We had never seen this before. That's what
made him the unicorn. It was special to see this year.
The bigger argument could be made about baseball as a
whole then o Tani. Baseball as a whole had a
mega year. Baseball as a whole had better storylines. Baseball
was more entertaining. You had the Tigers out of nowhere,
(12:36):
the Yankees and Dodgers, Bolts make it to the World seats,
Oh my gosh, the Mets, where did they come from?
And all of a sudden you got Grimace becoming a thing.
So I would argue more than Otani, baseball.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Had a bigger year.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
If you're gonna go in the rankings of This Time magazine,
I think it's Kaitlyn Clark then baseball than O' Tani
and old Kaitlyn Clark is the most casual fan or
cas a person conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Everyone knows Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Oh that's that girl in the WNBA who's shooting all
those streets and doing this or causing condo.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Nobody knows Show Hal time.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
A lot of people know a lot to people Show
I just said a lot of people know Show Hal Tony,
but nobody. He didn't evoke conversations like this Tony did.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
He started the year with signing the contract that that.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
People could chief. No, that's true. So that was the
start of it.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
And then it went to the fifty to fifty, which
nobody that was the big talk. Is he gonna get
fifty to fifty and then his Dodgers win the World Series.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
This is the challenge, Rob Parkers, this is the challenge
talking to you. You love baseball, you are baseball, and
you are MLB bro. So you get in your echo
chamber and y'all get to the MLB bro it you
went Sean and Steve de Seger and y'all get your
little MLB on and you forget a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Necessarily it's not that BA is not good.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No, no, no, no, we had a This was an
amazing time covering baseball, best I've had in years. But
what I mean is Kyler Clark was starting controversy. She
ain't as good as this. She's only getting this because
she's white. No Angel Reese's start. This was bigger than anything.
This goes back to what made bird and magic and
all of these things.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It involved race, involves in the money in Earth College.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
She didn't win, she didn't make the Olympics. Kaepernick bit
time actually even playing. But this year no astute of
the year. I told you it's you can't be more
than just the actual game. But he encompassed everything. I mean, Oh,
Tony did everything. Set set the market value on on salary,
(14:44):
and we passed it in a year and also won
the world Show all right, eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three
sixty nine. Who was more deserving of Time Magazine's Athlete
of the Year, Caitlyn Clark, who didn't win anything all year?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Show Tony who of the Year.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
He didn't get a team that never been to postseason
in like the last eight years. So the folks see
that conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Four, What more do you want from her? It is
the couple you want from me. It is a trash
Talking Tuesday right here on Fox Sports Radio. Stick and
stay and you also think people win Time Person of
the Year for not doing enough in the USA.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
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about Time Person Athlete of the Year. They gave it
to Caitlin Clark. I say they got it right.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Rob says, no, should have been show heyl Tani? What
says you? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox? Who
you got?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
All right?
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Let's kick it off with Bobby in Florida. You're on
the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Bobby?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
What's up? Big Bobby? Can we losing? Alex? All right?
Gro in Phoenix? Is that right? Gro G A.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
R O.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
You're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (16:57):
Thank you very much, Shelman for taking my call. I
want to start off by saying, I grew up in
Los Angeles, born and raised a Dodger fan, watched all
the Dodger games.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Come see when they come to Phoenix.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
But I'm gonna have to tell you when it comes
to overall what a person did for their sports and
then to get all these people, not only just fans,
but non fans. People don't even know anything about sports,
like my wife, for example, Kaylan Clark, is known much
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more because.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
Of who she is and being a woman.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Okay, you, I mean your wife doesn't never heard of
Sho hal Tani. Your wife doesn't know who that is?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Of them, she knows who it is.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
And you know, you can't take away, you can't take
away what Shoe hal Tani did and probably the greatest
season of all time.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
But you know, you gotta admit there are people out
there don't follow baseball.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
And there are and there are plenty of people who
don't follow the w NBA and don't know Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't know about that, like everybody does. No, I
don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Everybody doesn't know who she is.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I'll give you the follow the WNBA, sure, but the
idea that people don't know Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Her name, but they've heard Shoe al Tani's name. You
don't have to follow baseball dollars contract. Everybody knew his name.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Here's a great example. Wa Soto just signed seven sixty five.
You know how many people don't know that. They don't
know that some guy just signed. Kaitlyn Clark was smeared
everywhere from Good Morning America to ESPA and the Fox
to like that's a different type of notoriety than just
simply sports.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Then I just disagree. I think that she because I
get that the people knew who she was. But if
you really take a look at what he accomplished compared
to her, and it's called athlete of the year, not
not social.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Media uh, person of the year or not. We know
your name.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Because you didn't make the Olympics, and you didn't win
anything in the w n b A, and you didn't
win a national championship. I just never heard of an
athlete who didn't win anything, and yet that's the athlete
actually lost.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Like I could say she was like she didn't win
her team. What I'm saying she made it to the
final four. She she didn't win, but but she made it.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
They made the playoffs. She didn't win the team and
hadn't made the playoffs since two but they didn't win.
But the time champion of the year, it's the time
athlete of the year.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
They didn't have a stipulation if you had to win
every game or the last game of the season.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Usually somebody when when they pick athletes, it's usually they've
had some sort of historic understand it.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
No, she didn't.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
She literally set records for her five actual game play
so televiewership records.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
So television person of the year. How about call in Mobile, Alabama.
You're on the couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
Hey, Rob, As a journalist of a degree in journalism,
I usually side with you, but on this one I
have to give her the nod because when I say
Athlete of the Year, she completed a full college season,
went to the championship game, and then jumped right into
a week later, played a full WNBA season. Most players
that played college basketball have an offseason to recuperate. She
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didn't have that and went right into the WNBA and
was a pivotal player on that team led it to
the playoffs. So she led two teams into the playoffs,
and that athletically physically is challenging for anybody to do.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
So I gave her the nod, and I'll tell you
why I disagree with you.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Called when people do something that no one has ever
done in one hundred and fifty plus year history of
a sport, if you don't win Athlete of the Year
on that, then you can't win it. I mean, what
are we talking about. Nobody ever did fifty to fifty.
The game's been around for a gazillion years. If you
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don't win athlete of the year that year?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
What year would you win?
Speaker 9 (21:10):
It?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
The year in which a woman basketball player dominated all
the sports talk shows, including you your own Dago sports
pre me being here, y'all were talking about it. Everybody
was talking about it. You know you didn't talk about
you didn't talk about Swin Cash. You know you didn't
talk about you didn't talk about Canas Parker talk to everybody?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Talk to Rob g and ask about our podcast about
Joe hail Tani against Aaron Judge And what was our
top podcast?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
It wasn't Kaitlyn Clark. Okay, I believe not Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I believe you.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But I'm saying shows leading with a w first of all,
a college women's player then turned w NBA player then
turned didn't even make the Olympic team, and it was
the biggest conversation.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
That's that's just a remarkable thing. Got to give it
to her in that regard as well.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You can always still reach out to us on social
media if you would like to jump in on the
conversation and just a little bit we got from Salam
gonna join us.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Chris Brussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
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Speaker 1 (22:18):
And as always, every week we are joined by our guy,
our friend, e from Salaam, former NFL offensive lineman Fox
Sports Radio Weekend.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
E from Salam on Twitter, Ephraim, what's up man? How
are you?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
What's happening man? How y'all doing? We?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
God?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Man, you're a hoo fan. Time Magazine Athlete of the Year.
Caitlyn Clark is who I said? I agree, I think
they got it right, shoel Tani whos Rob said, what
do you think who got it?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And maybe you think somebody else should have gotten it?
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Say that again? Y'all mumbling? Were y'all talking together to
say it one more time?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
No, Caitlyn Clark was Time Magazine Athlete of the Year,
and then you have.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I said it should be Shohey signed a seven hundred
million dollar contract fifty to fifty first time ever won
a World Series. Kaitlin didn't win the NCAA Championship, didn't
make the Olympic team, and didn't win the WNBA Championship.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
What am I missing a lot?
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Well? Look and first of all, both of you guys
are right, how rare is that? But what I will say,
I will I know right, I will say this, what
Caitlyn Clark did for the WNBA, the WNBA had been
trying to do since its inception in ninety six. All Right,
she for whatever reason galvanized the country, the world in
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support of women's basketball. So even though she didn't win
the NCAA championship, she didn't win the WNBA championship, what
she meant to the sport, whether people want to you know,
agree with that, that are not the proofers in the putting.
They have chartered flights. Now things have changed with long fifty.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Million dollars to WNBA. They didn't turn they didn't turn
around like overnight.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
They they've been losing money.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
They're still they're still attracting five thousand people to most
of their games.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I mean, I think people are over over over said it.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
No, no, Look what she's meant to the WNBA, I
think is tremendous. Have another year like he had this year,
probably because he's from well Monty.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Thing is, no one has ever done a fifty to fifty.
The baseball has been a one hundred and fifty years.
If you can't win Athlete of the Year doing something
in the sport that's been around for that long and
we've never seen I've never seen a guy do something
we've never seen and not be rewarded for that.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
He was rewarded at seven hundred million dollars. I think
he's okay.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Ron.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I don't think you'll not getting Time magazine Athlete of.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
The Year Kalen Clark making seventy million dollars I mean
seventy thousand dollars a year. I think he will be okay.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, I'm I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Uh you jump into football, you want to go into
last night Ephram Man with the Uh with what Joe
Burrow is doing. Have you seen anything like this where
guys putting out these amazing number leading in pretty much
all the passing categories, his number one receivers leading and
all the receiving categories, yet they are not having such
team success. They're five and eight and and but so
(25:34):
then now you look at him as you can't say
he can't beat the MVP, because god forbid, he's only
five and eight.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It's about winning, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Ephraim it is about winning. And if he's on a
team that eight and five, this is a different conversation.
But at five and eight they muddled around like they've
done the last three years. At the beginning of the season.
They don't take September period, right, the Bengals have never
(26:03):
taken September series. And it's coming back to bite them
because sometimes you can dig a hole, right, if you're
not buttoned up, you can dig a hole so deep
you can't recover from it. They spend a lot of
time with hole dolls and who's gonna do this? And
is Joe Burrow healthy? And now he is one of
(26:24):
the premier quarterbacks in the NFL, but they don't have
a record to show for it. So you won't get
the notoriety and the accolade and the acclaim because you
you're sub five hundred. You're not going to make the playoffs.
And so you had no bells and whistles come from
a team, come, you know, for a player on a
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team that's not going to even make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Yeah, I think people Joe Burrow, that was it Chris
Canty from a ESPN who trashed him. Always still living
off that Super Bowl and this and that. The dude,
when he from is healthy, is one of the best
quarterbacks in the Leno. I mean the only time he
hasn't played well is when he's been heard that guy
is amazing.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Yeah. Both. The problem is you got to have that
type of success on the team. So I don't know
whether it's you know, organizational uh, head coach, whatever that is.
It's not translating into wins. And it doesn't help that
they're in the division that they're in, all right. They're
in the division where uh you know they're in I
(27:32):
call it head busters. They're in the head busting division
where you if you if you're not buttoned up, if
you're not clicking on all cylinders, you can't help. But
see where you are, look at the look at the
quarterbacks in that division, the team and the coaching in
that division.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, I mean they're always like that. Man, that that division.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
What do you go if you're the Cowboys?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I mean, obviously they lose a home home dinner may
be a show, right, I mean it's pretty brutal.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I mean, what do you do next year? What Mike?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
You know they're hedging on Mike McCarthy is not his fault.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Should bring him back, but they didn't give him a
contract going in knowing he was a lame dug. It's
just all backwards with the Cowboys. You wouldn't put the
coach through that. And now you have a terrible season
and you resign the coach. Does that make sense?
Speaker 6 (28:22):
No? No, Look, the thing that has to happen, in
my opinion for the Dallas Cowboys is they have to
do something dramatic. They have to do something so far
outside the lines of reality to shock the system. All right,
they held pat, they stood pat all off season, yep, right,
dealing with these two holdouts, the quarterback situation, ceedee lamb.
(28:46):
They did all of those things. They did not improve
that roster by any stretch of the imagination. And so
now they are where they are. Right. You don't go
get Derrick Henry, you don't even try.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And youkiel Elliott who has no sense.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
And so to me, you have to do something shocking.
I don't know whether you move up, is it takes
your door, is it try to blure Dion to be
the coach. But it has to be something on along
the lines of where everybody's like, oh we didn't see
that coming because what you've done customarily is you've just
(29:25):
been mediocre. Even in your successful season, you really don't
have anything, uh to hang your head on. Right like
the last two years prior to this year, they were
sixteen and oh at home during the regular season. They
couldn't win the game at home right now if you
if you try, and that's the reason, because they did that,
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they need to shake that thing up. I don't know
how they're going to sign Michael Parsons. If I was them,
I would trade them get some other pieces. I'm with you,
it got to be something that's outside.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Of the oh well, if we're asking Jerry Jones to
do that to make the right decision, I don't know
how that's gonna work out. I'm our guests right now
in the odd couple, Rod Parker, Kelvin Washington. All right, Ephram,
you are a one of the assistant coaches or a
head coach, or just somebody involved in one of these
teams in the AFC, and you've watched this whole season.
You're the Steelers, you're the Ravens, you are the Bills,
(30:23):
and you look at the Chiefs and you say, man,
I don't know if they suck, they're good, they're great,
I don't know what's going on. How do you go
about attacking them? How do you say this is our
year because they aren't doing X this year.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Look, the one thing you have to do when you're
facing the Chiefs is you have to be very vigilant
and very adamant to your team about not beating yourself.
Thank you, we've seen them, we've seen them win games.
They have no at least five this year, right, no
business winning. But what happens is they're not going to
(31:00):
make mistakes. That's the difference. They're going to allow you
to make mistakes. And that's what happens. You know it,
you missed the field goal, you snapped the ball when
you're not supposed to. But it's just so it's unbelievable.
And so what you've got to really harp harp on
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your team about is being vigilant. You cannot make mistakes.
You have to be conscious everything, you have to focus.
You're not gonna beat Andy Reid and Patrick mahomes uh
and and spec Nola like you're not going to beat
them if you're beating yourself pre stap, pre uh snap
(31:43):
penalties of not being buttoned up on special teams, all
of those things. Man, if you're not locked in, they
will beat you every single time.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
And then the last party from uh if that was
the Raiders that kicked the field goal that hit the
up right, it would have bounced out and.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Not all right.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
On the strip.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Would It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
The best part about that is, Ephraim that Rob doesn't
want to give the Chiefs credit for the fact that
these teams have these mental errors or overthink or get
nervous or get outside themselves.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
That's because of playing the Chiefs, and you get nervous
because they're bad.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Right, the Chiefs can't be bad if they have the
record there. It's blowing my mind.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yes, and this is what I keep trying to tell
this man six and seven or something like that they
should be if if was the fifth.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Rob, come on now, I'll be doing that's right, hey.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Man, Ephraim, Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
We appreciate it. Brother. I have a great rest of
the week.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
We got Shekel City on deck.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
See what you end up doing and Rob and also
again we have the conversation about Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
How great they've been.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
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Speaker 7 (33:48):
Welcome to Shekel City, the home base for Rob Parker's
daily Dix against the Spread.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
All right, checko City one and two. Last night.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Ninety one eighty nine and two is the total. Let's
go we got the Knicks minus six and a half
taking on the Hawks. We got the Thunder minus four
and a half. They host the Mavericks, and I'm gonna
take the Warriors on the road at the Rockets. Rockets
are good one and a half. So the Warriors getting
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one and a half points, the Thunder minus four and
a half and the Knicks minus six and a half.
And remember, I'm not telling you who to bet on, Kelvin,
I'm telling you who I bet on.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, I mean you want to run just that number
you said, ninety one, Now ninety one eighty nine and two. Yes,
I didn't even realize he was above five hundred.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
I was.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I was in the in the toilet for a minute. Yeah,
you can almost start preaching.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
You know. I was over, but I didn't came back
rising like Lazarus up in this thing. I'm proud of you, hey,
like big time. You did back well. Going back to
the conversation we're having with ephrem Man, this is a dude.
Sometimes in sports like this it's our job. You know,
we come on, we dissect what we see. Sometimes, you know,
(35:12):
it's debate, sometimes it's you know, all that good stuff.
Every now and again, Man, don't you just enjoy watching
people like, man, that person here or she they're great,
And you know that's what that to me. Sometimes what
I think is lost in our what we do is
because people have to come on and I got that
criticize this and that team, ain't this or that person
ain't that? And watching man Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase
(35:35):
they know each other. They play it in college. Now
they're playing in the pros. Like these dudes are just
remarkable at what they do and the team is not great.
And aphramag you know, we all know he brought up
how they historically start slow.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And they got a little bad. Remember when when Aaron.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Rodgers just relax relax Except for him, it actually worked
for them. They'll relaxed and we're gonna be better. Isn't
necessarily working, but just watch what they do. That connection
they have, man, it's ridiculous. I mean, a couple of
touchdowns one hundred and seventy seven yards for Jamar Chase.
You got the coach coming out saying, I know we
gave we have fourteen receptions, but we still could have
(36:11):
give him some more, like he's just that great man.
And then obviously with Joe Burrow's doing so sometimes I
just enjoy the fact that I don't like to dissect
it as much as just as a fan of sports
like man, these two are.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
That's a great connection right there.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Agree with you to a certain extent.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
But then when you don't win, you know, you always
look at the numbers, and I'm saying they won last night.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
But right right now, what you mean, yeah, is you
start to question the numbers.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
And you do because are they piling up numbers because
they are out of games and people are allowing you.
I always struggle with that with Matthew Stafford's numbers and
Calvin Johnson with the Lions during those bad years. You notice,
Kelvin because you watched the game, they were down twenty
one to nothing most games in the first quarter, am
I right?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Like they were down the Cardiac Cats because they always
had to come back and have last minute second heroics.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
And because they were down and then you would have
teams would allow you to throw the ball in front
of them right like they will give you.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
The Yeah, the best part of Matthew Stafford was to
your point, when they let's say they're down ten and
the fourth with eight minutes left.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That was when he was at his best, because now
he just you know what, screwed it. I'm flinging that thing.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Let me just get let the backyard football, sand lot football,
Let me let that thing fly.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
And that was to me when he would get at
his best, just you know, doing it. By the way,
that was another great connection too, those two, My goodness,
I mean that was but they.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Didn't win anything, and that's why people don't talk about
them as a connection. At least the Chiefs. I mean,
the Bengals have gone to the Super Bowl. Stafford and
Calvin Johnson together zero and three in the postseason. So
that's why people never you know what I mean, Yeah,
you know, it's raved about them as a as a
as a connection.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
You know what's bad about that rob The one three
is almost a compliment to the meeting man. They got
to the postseason three times. Like all right, I'll take it.
That's how bad it was. As a linesman, You're like, well, shoot,
we ain't win, but we got to the postseason because
it was that bad man. Uh So, yeah, it was.
They didn't get it done, but they at least had
(38:18):
something going on. Now we know college sports is all
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