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Speaker 2 (02:13):
How are you feeling, good Man? Good.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's it's just crazy how fast we're getting closer and
closer to Christmas and the end of the year, and
it's just wild man.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And uh so I had.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Doing uh what was his name, Griswold from the Christmas
Vacation story or movie.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, I was feeling like him late last night. Dude.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I was like putting up all the last minute lights
and you know, tree or not tree, but all the
other lights and all the decorations I needed to do
outside on the ladder, hoping I don't fall so that
Alex will make fun of me for falling down that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, so he's just that time of season.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Man, it's that time, and you know I'm in New York,
so it really feels like Christmas.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Come on, Sam, Sam, you're supposed to do my Midwest brethren.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
What you're doing?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Man, come on the sound of X as well. I
have to continue to the now.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
What you what? You in New York? What's going on?
I don't even know if I remember what's in New York.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
So here to see the family and some friends for
the weekend. I'll be back in LA on Sunday. So
just a little quick trip. We know you got an
NBC US later. Uh, you know that I can't miss
the show. And you know I'm in New York because
I'm having soup. You know it's cold in the subway.
I send you some pictures from the subway. I got no, no, no,
(03:28):
I got a little lobster bisk so we got yes,
really good stuff. So we are really really good. And Elijah,
you know what, I'm gonna put my zoom on. What
am I doing? I'm bugging out? Sorry, I'm gonna get
that straight.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That's that lobster bist right there.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yeah, guy, I know, I'm like busy talking. All right,
let's welcome in the odd couple of cool. We wouldn't
be able to do this faring radio program without him.
Rob g is our producer, Alex is our engineer, Iowa
Sam and instead momentarily, and of course Monsy Bolanos is
at the anchor desk.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You'll keep us updated throughout the show.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
And Elijah who I just mentioned our social media gurgu
who's saying, Okay, you're in New York, stop playing around
and get your zoom going.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
All right, Uh, let's start here. Let's do this. You
want to start on Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Right, Bill Belichick, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I'm sorry, so we're not starting there. We're not starting
with Bill.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
No, we're starting with your boy, with your boy with
the Uh No, I mean, besides of the Bill, Bill
obviously had his press conference today.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
We're gonna get to Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Gonna get to Bill here at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Some conversation behind but no, Patrick Mahomes Uh it had
some you know, and not just he but uh, there's
some thoughts about this is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
They're playing three games in a matter of eleven days,
and we're not talking about basketball or a soccer match
or something like that. We're talking about the NFL, actual
NFL games, which is crazy. So he's obviously expressed his
concern about that. You said, you know, you never quote
you never want to play this many games in a
(05:13):
short amount of time. And what's also interesting about this
to me is this is the team in which the NFL,
you and I have had conversations about because the ratings
for them are higher than any other team the last
five years. And this is the team that they started
to question, was this America's team because you need people
who love you or hate you out of the Cowboys,
(05:35):
and that's for sure what they have. So it's like,
this is the team the NFL is putting in this position,
and there's never.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Replaced the Cowboy. Nobody will.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But I'm saying ratings wise, they're saying, hey, this is
kind of the new team that if you put them
on TV, they're gonna have the highest ratings every week.
This is just the way that the numbers have gone
for several years now with them. So this is a
team you're ranked two time rating super Bowl champs that
when numbers sho you're six percent likely to be more
injured when you play Thursday night games on a short rest.
(06:06):
So they're playing three games in a matter of eleven days,
and it says the league Rob that says, hey, we're
focusing on prioritizing health. We don't want our guys to
get hurt. We're taking care of them. We want to
do his best three games in eleven days. That's absolutely crazy.
And so some other players on the team as well
have expressed their concern and said, I'm going to the
NFLPA at the end of the season to figure this
(06:28):
out and for whether we can't.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Even get them healthcare and a better retirement package.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Real.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
We just talked about that with Rod Woodson the other day.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
So going to the players Association that when the Players
Associated a chance to do something, you know what they did.
They got the players a chance to smoke weed and
not practice. That's what the Players Association. I'm just tired
of hearing about the players so well.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Well, I mean so I think that was Chris Jones,
if not mistaken, who said that. You know, that's their
way of Yeah, it was Chris Jones checking the box
if you will, like I did my part, I've told
you the media, I'm gonna tell the NFLPA. But it'll
be interesting to see if the NFL is gonna at
the end of the season look back at this run
and say, all right, that was a bit much. Especially
(07:12):
I don't care if it was the Panthers. It's not
even about just the Chiefs. If this were the Panthers,
you know, all right, three games in eleven days is
a lot, very especially Rob the way their by is
set up. They had their by early week six, so
it's like our bie was so long ago.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's not like we had this week eleven.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I mean it's eleven three games an eleven day stretch
and then okay, oh thank god we got a break
coming up after that, or we just had it the
week prior.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
This is their run going to the postseason, hopefully for them,
a deep postseason run.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
No rest for the weary, and so it really is interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
The league that wants to it was already added on
a seventeenth game.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's like, man, they don't care. They don't care about
the players.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
They don't so they gotta sell us that bill. Right,
it's a charade. It's it's a boulder dash. It's popped cocked.
They don't care. They don't three games in eleven days.
I mean, if they could play, get these guys to
play four games a week in the NFL, they would,
if they could. They talk one one thing, say one thing,
(08:15):
and they do another. This is outrageous to play that many.
I mean, even think about it, man, outrageous.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Football is such a demanding sport on your body, so taxing.
You and I have sat next to football players for years,
and you see how they walk. You see their fingers
are pointing the wrong direction. Knees are all messed up,
gotten metal knees and all this stuff. And the league
knows this, and the league has done so many comprehensive reports.
There have been so many studies about what it does
(08:42):
to the body. And to be fair, every player knows this,
and every player has said what, including Ephan Salam.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Just last week you and.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I asked this, He said, I do it again because
everything that comes with it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Now they don't want their sons to have.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
To do it and go through it, but they say
I did it, laid it on the line rational wealth,
you know, put myself in a position to as radio
shows and talk shows and be color analysts. Great, set
myself up for a great life the next thirty forty
fifty years.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
But I wouldn't want my kids to go through this.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And so the idea that the NFL didn't think this
through it's crazy to me. And I go back to
my first point too. I just also find it interesting
that you would think maybe they would go, all right,
don't tell anybody, but you know how and teams suck,
We're gonna send them to Europe. You know, Hey, the
Jags play in Europe so much at some point, I'm
just gonna think they are the London Jags. They're the
Berlin Jags at this point. Are you would think maybe
(09:34):
they's sending one of those teams. Maybe they'd seen.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
No because they weren't selling any tickets in Jacksonville. They
you know, the franchise they swung and miss on Jacksonville.
They thought Jacksonville could be green Bay and it turned
out that it's not green Bay. You know, they said, well,
if green Bay can do it right a small market,
look at that, there's nothing there.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
They sell out the.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Stadium there they're they're wow, you know, why can't a
city decide a They'll do the same thing if you
have nothing else, right.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, well you ain't.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The issue is, fortunately for green Bay, they were literally
one of the you know, early teams in the.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
NFL period, back back back, back back in the day.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
So they just built this thing up to where and
then like we all know, winning cures all the old
fifties and sixties, Packers won a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
So they the fan base became this is our way
a life, is what we have. We win it.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The Lombardi dag On Trophies with its call. So they
have that history to have built up to create that
fan base. That's not the case for the Jacks. But
the same way they do with hard knocks. We're like,
if you hadn't made the postseason in the last couple
of seasons, whatever, you are one of the few teams
that has to end up you know, you're in the
runnings to have to be the team on hard knocks.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I thought they would do it that way.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Hey, if you've sucked, you've been terrible for the last
couple of years, you got to do this eleven three
game in eleven day stretch. I didn't think they would
put the two time running raining champs in this position
when again, studies show six percent likely to get injured.
And also coach is don't play their star players or
injured players more the next game, not even fully injured.
(11:05):
Just I got to get you some rest somewhere, So
I'm gonna buy you some rests. I thought they wouldn't
do this with the Chiefs, and also your team, the
Ravens are gonna be in similar situations playing so many
games and short days.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Yeah, I mean, this is the this is the NFL,
as long as the players don't push back. And again,
the only way you get the attention of the ownership
and the commissioner is to stop football. Stop the games.
Once you stop the games and the money they you'll
get their attention. And they refuse to do it. They
(11:37):
had plenty of chances. How did the Baseball Union become
so strong stop stop the World Series style? Hundreds of
years in a row, there was a World Series and
one day they said, okay, enough, we're not playing. You're
not gonna lock us out. We'll strike and we won't
be back for the World Series.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
And the NBA has done it too. Now you're not
to that degree. But we've had shorten season.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Right, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
And the NFL players they had a strike back in
eighty seven, which I covered, and I remember that when
they have replacement players. But other than that, the players
refuse to get together. They have so much power, but
they don't use it.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
And this is another example of they'll belliate to the media,
they'll cry to the union, but they won't do anything
about it.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
They won't do anything about it. And people are like,
you wouldn't give up your zllary, dude. If everybody does
it together, it won't be a long stroke.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I was gonna say, it's not that given it's given
up as salary for a period of time, you know,
month too much.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
They can't fire everybody.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
This is the if all the players as a group,
and that's what baseball is so strong about. You know
what they do. They have a war chest of money
so that players don't gon't cry when they're out. You
know why, if you need money to pay bills, they
got bread. Here we go, here's your mony. And you
know what, when you get your money back after this,
you pay it back. You'll put it back into the
(13:05):
war chat.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's simple, yeah, it's it's planning for no pun intended,
but just planning for war in that sense. You know,
you spent all those years in Detroit, me being from
Detroit area.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Like the unions and car unions are powerful.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
They're powerful because they are ready to go to bat
for whatever it needs to get done for the employees.
So but we'll see, we'll see after you know, you
got your star player and Patrick mahomes your star player
and start team and the Chiefs and they're saying this publicly.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We'll see how it all plays out of the end
of the season.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
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about player safety or are they just a bunch of
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Speaker 5 (16:04):
All right, Joel and Colorado, you're on the odd couple
of Fox sportuating what you got.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Joel, Hey, guys, it's calling in a love your show. Guys,
my Chuck Rubber listen to your show like almost every
time they can.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Joel, appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
We appreciate that. Yep, appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
I don't think the NFL. I just think there is
it's a bunch of impercaus they don't care about the players.
I mean, I want I'm old. I mean, I'm old,
But like this whole Thursday game thing should have never happened.
I mean, you know, back in the day when it
was just remember when it was Thanksgiving and that was it.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
It was a game.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
You know, it was something special. Now every week nah.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Ahead, yeah, yeah, at one hundred percent, Joel, I mean
it's just a money grab, that's all it is, because
they can pull out a game for Thursday night and
get money instead of running them all together on a Sunday.
I'm a standard, but Monday night football used to be special.
You know, there used to be things that were special.
And as you know, I always think of it, and
(17:08):
I know the NFL is different because it has a
gambling aspect. Okay, that's the big part of the NFL.
But you remember when who wants to Regis Philbin was doing,
uh want a millionaire.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Wants to be a millionaire. And remember that was a
big time hit.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
And then ABC got greedy and what they do put
it on three times a week.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I was about to say it wasn't five days a week.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It got ridiculous but that but then they they lost
the show, right, I mean burnt out.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
It burnt out. It was a great show and they
didn't need to do that.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
All right, Will, We got Will in Wisconsin. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
What up Will?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yo? Yo?
Speaker 8 (17:42):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Rob?
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Good evening there, Calvin Mary Holidays to you, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yes, sir, you too.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
Was just real quick, Rob, just like you were saying
about baseball, and kind of I might be uniquely positioned
on this. There was just a lawmaker in Ohio kind
of laughably right where he says, okay, we're going to
put four for leg like it's a real piece of legislation.
The guy put forth to make it a felony for
somebody to.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Do the flames.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
That.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
Yeah, but there, And so we.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Know these guys are sports fans, right, so there needs
to be something. All it would take would just be
one lawmaker. I mean, these guys, you know, you have
to take the decision out out of the NFL's hands
and then give them, give them some guidelines. Can't count
to the nfl PA to do much of anything. Not
that they're the sigial, it's just that that's not their function.
Kind of on the NFL. They're trying to they're to help,
(18:30):
you know, players understand the rules and you know, kind
of whatever the league wants them to do, kind of
disseminate it and make sure guys kind of do it.
So I can't count on them to do it, but
the league, if the league wants to protect the players.
If you want an extra game, take off the two
preseason games.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
One is just a dress rehearsal.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
The other one is Jeff, you know, so lesser teams
can make roster decisions, but you don't need four preseason games.
You got eighteen games. Two preseason games. Eighteen games and
figure it out from their NFL.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, I mean, we get it.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
But they know the reason why they're not interested in
preseason games anymore, Kelvin is that they they're locally broadcast. Yeah,
and they don't make money. You know, they don't make
any big money. It's on a local channel and uh,
you know, in Detroit or Chicago, whatever, it's not a
national game or anything.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And they don't care about those game though. They'd rather
get to that seventeenth that's what they want. They'd rather
get to this possible eighteenth game.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
And before you know it, we're gonna look up, by
the way, because we didn't even talk about this, they're
already talking about include and going from sixty fourteens in
March madness to seventy two.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
So it's just like they.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Can have it, they can have see, just put everybody in.
How about how about every college basketball? Just put everything?
There's no it's ridiculous. David in Seattle, you're in the
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
What up?
Speaker 9 (19:47):
David, Hey, gentle man, appreciate the opportunity. I really wish
it was trash talking two days. I could get all
over you in the entire national media. Might See went
through the same thing early in the season. They started
Treano and they played the Lions and Giants and the
forty nine ers three times in eleven days. He ain't
(20:09):
nobody crying about that. But now Patrick mahomes is and
now you don't talk about it.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Come on, that's fair that's a fair trash trash if
you know what.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Here's the point.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
If this was during the legion of Boom time, we
would have been talking about it because that was one
of the hottest teams in the NFL. And Russell Wilson
and Pete Carroll and Richard Sherman.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
It would have made huge news.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
That's right. And David anyway, I thought Gino's.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Pizza, you could put it in new Michael wave boy
and he's good.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Three times in eleven days.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
No oh boy, all right, sorry, you had you know,
he already hung up in advance. He knew it was coming.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
He knew it was coming.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
We got any more new?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
All right, Well, Jeff Hall, we'll have some more football
conversations in just a moment with Jeffy of the Athletic
Now he's the guy who broke this story, right yeah, yeah,
So just in two seconds we'll have a conversation about that.
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Speaker 1 (21:16):
It is the odd couple Rob Parker kelvin Washington, hanging
out right now with Jeff how who is the athletic
national NFL insider, and he wrote the article of the conversation. Uh,
we were just having about Bill Belichick right there, wanting
to coach again.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Jeff, happy holidays to you. Thank you for joining the show.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
That's right, and Jeff, thank for having no doubt.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
So you said that you had talked to a unnamed
executive and quote was something like if Belichick wanted.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
To coach again, he almost which is a big word.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
They almost had to take the UNC job because NFL
teams weren't interested. You mean to tell me that no
one would hire Bill Belichick with all the bad coaching
going on in the poll.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Well, I mean it's easy to look at it from
that way, but I'm telling you it goes a lot
deeper than just saying than just Bill showing up to
an interview room and saying, hey, yeah, I was the
king of the sport for eighteen years. I mean, yeah,
he's won six Super Bowls. His resume is unparalleled, and
there's nobody that can sit there and stack up past credentials.
But it's a lot more than what Belichick's done in
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the past, and at this point, you know, to objectively
that past is a generation away. I mean, he hasn't
won a playoff game since twenty eighteen, since his last
Super Bowl. So the way things ended with the Patriots
turned off a lot of people around the league. And
there's a lot of you know, you mentioned the one
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executive that was quoted in there. I mean I spoke
to over fifteen sources around the league for this story,
and this was the I'll also back it up. I mean,
based off my reporting from last January when Belichick can't
remember January February, sorry, but like basically, when all the
all the jobs got filled last year, I didn't think
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Belichick was going to get another NFL job, And I
reached out over the last week to an obviously at
least fifteen people trying to see if anything had changed.
Is the landscape any different? Because there was this massive
assumption that once the hiring cycle came to be that
Belichick was going to be at the top of or
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near the top of a lot of lists, and knowing
how many vacancies there tend to be, he would think
the odds would be in his favor and it's just
there's too many people who were too skeptical of his
ability to run a program, and not just that. Let's
say let's say he proved everybody wrong. Let's say he
Let's say he got a job next month. Though this
is obviously a massive hypothetical because it's not going to
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happen this point. Let's say he got a job next
month and he proved every single word in that article
to be wrong. He proved right away that he could
he could take a team and turn him into an
immediate contender. You know, there's a lot of ifs, and
even still, the shelf life is for like three years.
So like teams, I know, there's a rush to win now,
there's an urgency to win now. There's far too many
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coaches who get fired after two or three years, so
that shelf life doesn't necessarily exist for any candidate. But
it's hard to hire somebody right now, saying even if
this is the best case scenario, we're talking three years,
all right.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
So jeff my Moles that I talked to in the
NFL told me that he was indeed offered the Atlanta
Falcons job, and that he sat on it for three
or four days and had like a issue with the
power struggle and who's going to do this and who's
going to be that, and that's the reason why they
pulled it back.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
But that he was offered that job.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Did you get any reporting on that that he was
offered the Falcons job.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
No, to the best of my knowledge going back to
last year, he was never offered the job. And this
was a like, yeah, he had the two interviews with
the Falcons, but that was a fact mission for both parties.
It was for Belichick to see if he could deal
with the power structure, to see if he could work
with Rich McKay because those two have had a long
running beef, and it was also the Falcons. They wanted
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to hear what Belichick had to say.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
And I'm telling I can sort.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
The Falcon's in good hands now. They're good the Falcons.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
You know what I hear you, And I understand people
have issues And I'm not a Bill Belichick guy.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Okay, the guy cheated.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I have an issue with the Patriots and all that
went on, and eventually one day somebody will come clean
and tell us all the bad stuff that went on
during that run and all that.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
So I'm not a Belichick guy.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
But the idea that if this guy's available and wants
to coach, that they would rather take a flyer on
some of these Nathaniel Hacketts and some of these other
bad coaches that I've seen in the NFL. I'm shocked
at how bad some of these coaches are and the
opportunities that they get, and you wouldn't take a look
at a Bill Belichick. I just find that to be
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hard to believe.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
I get it. Look, I get it, and I can
balance you out. I mean, I grew up in the
Boston area. I covered the Patriots from two thousand and
nine to twenty twenty one before I took over the
more of the national job, and I still live right
near Gillette Stadium, so I drove past it today. So
I'm very well versed in Belichick and the accomplishments. And
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I have been accused by Patriots fans for a long
time of being being, you know, too rosy with Belichick.
So I'm not. And now today, of course, everybody's telling
me I wrote a hit piece on Belichick.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
And sot it it.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Yeah, it's always you guys, know, it's always one way
or the other. It's However, anybody wants to interpret this,
and I'm telling you, I never go into an article
with a slant. I never have an agenda. I never
have an axe to grind. I was just asking the
questions and whether I agree with them or not, whether
I think Belichick is one of the best. It's crazy
because I'm not going to sit here and say there
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are thirty two human beings on the planet who were
better head coaches.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I get that.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Yeah, Like I'm not going to do I'm not going
to try to feed you guys that and tell you
like it's fully Mignon, like it's I'm not going to
do that. But what I can do and what I
did with the or what I tried to do with
the article today again speaking to a whole bunch of people,
is just tell you what the league felt about him,
because I wanted to know why is he pulling himself
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out of the chance to get an NFL job a
month before the hiring cycle is truly going to get underway.
And it's it's because he saw the rating on the wall.
And if I can find all this stuff out, believe me,
he spent the last few months trying to put out
feelers as well, trying to figure out what are his
chances of getting back into the NFL, because I promise
you getting those last fifteen wins to pass Don Shula
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meant a whole lot to him. So to bob out
the way that he did, I shouldn't say to bow out.
That's not fair to him to basically say I'm taking
the UNC job before the NFL hiring cycle opens up.
I think that validates everything that I tried to write.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
N Can I get one other thing, I'm sorry, Kevin,
one other question. The idea that the Sun's going to
take over the nepotism part, was that enough to also
sway him to set his son up put him in
a position?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
H Do you feel that hap that played a part
at all.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I think there's a part of him that absolutely wants
to continue to brighten the spotlight around Steve, no question
about it. But from what I understand is Steve is
not set it up to be, you know, the absolute
successor based on the way the contract is written. I'm
not gonna say that. I'm not going to try to
predict the future. I mean, if it goes swimmingly for
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the next three to five years, or the balance of
that contract. However, the two sides decide they want to
continue working together and it's a natural success and plan
to have Steve take over. Sure, it could absolutely happen,
but to the best of my knowledge from what I
can tell you right now at this moment, and there
is absolutely nothing that says Steve is guaranteed to be
the next guy.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Jeff O the Athletic National NFL insider for the Athletic
Let me get you out of here on this one.
For me, I just you know, going through your your
article there, I just still more interested. Tell me a
little bit more about they were saying how some executives
saying that he was what he was able to accomplish
with the Patriots was a unicorn. Some other times you're
mentioning that they were saying, you know, he had burned
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so many bridges. Can you give an example or two
of how those bridges were possibly burned with NFL teams.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Yeah, I mean we can Rich McKay for one, you know,
like they's that's mutual animosity that the two have had
for one another. It goes back the competition committee arguments whatever,
like certain trying to I'm trying to think of the
rate like one up one another or what have you.
Just you know, dumb stuff that just sort of builds
up over the years. But dumb stuff might not even
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be a fair way to characterize it. But just you know,
the amount of times that those guys have been in
the rooms arguing about rules over the last couple of
decades or whatever it's been, they just haven't they don't
get along, like that's gonna happen, Like Bill Delichick rubs
people the wrong way in certain capacities, and it's not everybody.
And when you are the most successful person to ever
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do your job, and I didn't even mean for it
to sound as corny as it just did, but for
him to be as successful as he's been, you know,
he's got a right to have some arrogance to him.
And you know part of that, you know, maybe it's
something corny like skipping out on a coach's picture, but
like it's it's way way more than that. I mean,
it's just just being in league circles, you know, not
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always being the rosiest person, like connections are important for anything.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, well, well we're gonna see how that plays out
with being in people's living rooms trying to sell you
get their seventeen year old kid.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You don't be able to see how that works.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
And I want you to chase another story at ninety
one year old Huby Brown is leaving the ESPN to
go to North Carolina coach basketball.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Okay, is that check on that for me?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Well you are ready to put Bill Belichick?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
You said he was a pork chop away from the grassyard,
and I don't know what you're gonna say about Hube Brown?
All right, all right, goodness, Hey, we appreciate you, thank
you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Man Jeff, thank you, and thank you with everything. Happy Holidays,
of course, Happy holadays.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Thanks a lot, appreciate, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Problem man ninety one? Who Hube Brown? What the heck
would you say for him? He a call away from
the ground, right Hey, shekel City on deck. Plus, we
gotta get you ready for Thursday night football with a
couple of California teams. We'll do that. Coming up. It
is Rob Parker kelvin Washington. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
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Speaker 1 (31:44):
Fox Sports Radio the hop couple Rob Parker Kelvin Washington
on a TV themes on Thursday. However, tis the season,
so you know we're gonna be dropping you these classic
holiday tracks. Hopefully you're enjoy them, hope of your feeling
really festive. Tis the season? Told you, I put up
all the lights last night, cold as heck. Neighbors probably mad.
I got called, heck, it wasn't that cold. Come on,
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let mere afraid? I added, the heck was extreme. That
the heck was extreme. But you know, when you move
that l a, you become warm, bloody and fake really quickly.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Here because I already know that. I know you don't
say so what what?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Why?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
You acted like a big baby.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
You grew up New York, New York, you lived in
Coal and you lived in Detroit for twenty years.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Like what are you talking about? Dude?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
After the first seat six months here, you become anything
that below sixty degrees, I'm like, hold on, not wait,
whoa whoa.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Whoo, but I will I will go to Rockefeller Center
to see the big Christmas tree wall im here. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Like that, you gotta enjoy a few listen.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Despite life and all the things that go on, you
still got to get it in a festive mold. You're working,
you're busy, you're traveling. You still got to enjoy the
time all of us. Man, make sure you feeling. Take
a pause and enjoy the reason for the season. Right,
all right, right now it is time for.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Welcome.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
I heard that the whole base for Ron Parkers against
the scrap.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Right a little Shekel city.
Speaker 10 (33:09):
Last night one and one, I had the Warriors plus
two and a half, and of course Steph had the
bad three pointer with too much time left on the clock.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
You saw that Warriors lose by one. So with the
two and a half, I won that game. I had
the Knicks, but the Hawks actually won, so that didn't
work out. So now one on one last night, I'm
now up to ninety three eighty nine and two, and
here we go for tonight. But you got the forty
nine ers minus two and a half hosting the Rams.
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I don't know, they just have a spell over the Rams.
They've been beating the Rams like a drug ten yeah, yeah,
I mean they just owned them.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
So I'm gonna go with the forty nine ers in
that game.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I got the Heat minus nine and a half taken
on the terrible Raptors, and I got the Celtics. I know,
Celtics minus eleven and a half at home taking on
the Pistons.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Now the Pistons are ten.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And fifteen and we're playing tough out now.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
But I still believe that sometimes I've seen the Celtics
blow people out at home with a big game and
it sounds like a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Eleven and a half, but with the threes now.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
It could usually be thirteen to fifteen, you know what
I mean, in a couple of lague threes in a
game that was pretty close. So again, Celtics minus eleven
and a half, Heap minus nine and a half and
the forty nine Ers minus two and a half. And remember, Kelvin,
I'm not telling you who'd have been on, which is
telling I'm telling you who I've got.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Give me the money shock.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That's right, hey, Thursday night football. We gotta tell you
a little bit about it before jumps off here.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
In a matter of a few minutes, you got the
Rams and you have the forty nine ers, uh, one
of you know these teams are competing obviously the same division,
trying to see who can actually still if anybody can
catch up to the Seahawks who have that on lock
right now, they'll be up in the Bay, the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
And who else. And you've got Cards in the mix, right.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, they're I feel like the Cardinals that peaked and
they're going the opposite way. Seahawks are getting stronger. Both
of us picked them for last week's Pickskin Picks, So yeah,
they're they're they're going in the right direction. And the
Rams have done this before where they start getting hot
at the right time. Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
They got a big win against the Bills.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
But they lost too. They lost two home games. That
to me, Miami, Yeah, that Miami game that was big.
Remember that Stafford didn't throw a touchdown for the first
time in a long time.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, he looked great against him and him and Josh Allen.
That was a duel right there. Man, they were going
at it. That was a fun game to watch. But
now they're going into San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Team that success, right, and got a big win against
the Bears.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I mean the Bears are the Bears, but they beat
them down.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I mean the Bears had had a couple of games
where you're like man, the kick went the right way
or the hail.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Mary went the right way.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
They have some more wins, but they destroyed the Chicago Bears.
And the one big issue coming out of this or
going into it, actually say Deebo Samuels out, you know,
saying he's not getting the enough, saying he wants more targets,
and his targets are down dramatically this year, worse since
the COVID year. So we'll see if they making a
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point of emphasis to get him the ball or if
it's just, hey, you know, maybe his time is coming.
He's not the focal point anymore. But he has made
a big fuss about it. This is the week to
make a fuss about not getting the ball him Aj Brown.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
That's what receivers do. I mean, they want the football.
I get it.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
I mean if you have a receiver who's cool with
them getting the football, I don't think I want them
on my team.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
You know who's getting the ball, and I feel like
it's the best player in the NFL we don't talk
about and by we, I don't just mean you and I.
Pooka in the freaking Kopa is insane twelve catchers one
hundred and sixty two yards touchdown.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Even I don't know playing the league, but he's a good, no, no, best.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
He's like the best player we don't talk about, not
the best player in the league, but you know, it
just goes under the radar and just balls out. So
I love seeing him play Fox Sports Radio.