December 13, 2024 • 38 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend hosts Martin Weiss and Ephraim Salaam are in for Rob and Kelvin, and the guys discuss the idea that Kyle Shanahan might be looking for a fresh start elsewhere following the San Francisco 49ers’ lost season, explain why De’Vondre Campbell’s NFL career is likely over after that stunt he pulled on Thursday Night Football, tell us why Travis Hunter should be a lock to win the Heisman Trophy and share their thoughts on AJ Brown’s frustrations with the Philadelphia Eagles’ passing offense.
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On a funky flashback Friday, here on the Odd Couple again,
Martin Weisse's Ephram Salam filling in, Ephram.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
How are you doing that? I'm good? I look.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Let me just commend you Martin on your work ethic,
showing up to work and working even when people take
off their shifts.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
So applause to both of us for.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Filling in for the Slackers, that is Rob Parker and
Kelvin wark Hey.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Listen. Sometimes sometimes the starters.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
They take a day off and at that moment, generally
the guys come off the bench and play well.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Sometimes they just leave the field and decide, I don't
want to play.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Exactly, unless it was Thursday night. Just yesterday, we.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Saw Deveon Dre Campbell walk off the field midway through
the third quarter as the San Francisco forty nine is
we're in the midst of losing to the Los Angeles Rams,
and I mean Drake Greenlaw came back after tearing his
achilles in the Super Bowl. We all saw that as
he was running onto the field in the second quarter.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
He was finally back.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
It was won the one bright spot this year for
the forty nine ers and the year that has been
just dark and cloudy basically since the start of it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Remember when Brandon Aiyuk wanted to get paid.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yeah, that's how long it's been forty nine er Land
and so you know, Deviondre Campbell says after the third
quarter when they wanted to rest, Dre Greenlawn and d
Winters got hurt. You know, he said no, mos He
said I'm good. I don't want to go out there.
If you don't want me in the first quarter, then
you didn't want me in the third quarter. Now, even
I never played professional football, believe it or not, you
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didn't shocking, I know, but you did. So I want
to ask you, as a guy in the locker room,
have you ever seen anything like this?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And if you did, what was your reaction. No, I've
never seen anything like this. I've seen guys be late.
I've seen guys you know, not come in focused, but
on Sundays. I've never been a part of a team
where a guy walked off the field and refused to
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go in the game. And I'm glad because it's so
troubling on so many levels. The great thing about like football,
no matter who's that quarterback or running back or no
matter what's going on, it's a team sport, yep. And
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whenever there is a moment where you feel like you're
more important than the team, then it's time to go
look for something else to do. Now, I don't know
what's going on in this young man's life. It could
come out in two weeks that something horrific had happened,
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and it's felt like We don't know what it is.
But at first glance, what did Mike Singletary say? Can't
win with them? Can't do it? And that's how I
feel about this situation. You can't be in that locker
room look at those guys, especially the type of season
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the forty nine ers are having. You can't look at
those guys in the face and be like, that was
my bad man tripping.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
You can't trip like that now?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Is it intensified because of the season the forty Like
if the forty nine ers were eleven and two right now,
would we be having the same level of conversation about.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
This, we'd be digging deeper into I wonder what's going
on in his life? But because it's a ship on
fire man overboard, now it lends to, oh, this is
another reason why the forty nine ers aren't having the
type of season that the injuries, this type of discord
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in the locker room, this all makes this. People are
now going, oh, yeah, the forty nine ers are done
and they're in trouble. Because when things start coming out
this negative about a team, the first thing you do
is you look at the record. You'd be like, oh,
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this is a systematic thing. Then something's going on within
that locker room.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I thought initially when I saw him walking off the field,
was oh, he must be hurt. Then, realizing he had
played no snaps prior to that moment, I said, oh,
this is interesting, what's going on here?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Now?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I agree with you in that we don't know the
whole story. We've yet to hear from mister Campbell himself
about why he decided to remove himself from the sideline,
But the response of his teammates after the game and
the directness of the coach after the game lends me
to believe that there is not some more, something that's
more you know, out there and is off the field
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right that has made impacting him and impacting his decision making.
But it does speak to the idea what you were
saying this second ago of how things have been so
tumultuous in the locker room, both off the field and
on the field for the forty nine ers all year,
starting with the Brandon Ayuka and his contract situation at
Christian McCaffrey and his injury and will he come back
though he's actually got to go to Germany?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
What's that about? Right? And then you have the you.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Know, two players had, you know, terrible family incidents happened
when which you know their newborn child has recently passed away.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Like that's something that they're a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
That is something that it's hard to get up and
go to regular work, much less when it's hard to
when it's somebody else's job to stop you from doing yours.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, it's a lot going on.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And so my thought was when I was watching the
end of this game and I'm seeing and this is
kind of tied on the hills of Bill Belichick, and
we'll talk about him coming up at eight o'clock, you know,
we'll talk about his impact and what he's got going
on in North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But some of the reporting there was in the NFL
didn't want them.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I feel like if Kyle Shanahan was on the market,
the NFL would want him.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
And it made me wonder because.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
We were talking about should the forty Downers move on
from Kyle Shanahan with this type of stuff going on? Right,
with everything that was laid out and then all the
success that he has had there, I'll be it not
winning a championship, all the success he has had there,
all the players aging, is it do you think Shanahan
would be interested in sticking around for a rebuild or
or with one of these situations like Chicago, for example,
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look more appealing because to me, if I'm college and
I'm looking at everything, even my team stinks, Now, well
that team stinks, but at least they got a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah. But I think just knowing Kyle and I do.
I mean Kyle when he.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Was was in college and then also on a professional level.
He was my offensive coordinator in Houston. Uh so we
I know each other. We know each other. We played
Xbox together, we play Halo together. Was he did he
beat you?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Now?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I'm nice on them stakes? Okay, anyway, that's another that's
another topic in another show. Uh, Kyle's not going anywhere.
It's a situation. He's perfectly happy in this situation. The
control that they have. Him and John Lynch, they're like
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a package, right. They came in this thing together. They
both asked for guarantee five year contracts because they didn't
want to get into a situation where two years things
didn't go the way they expected them to go. The
turnaround hadn't been complete. They didn't want to be forced
to leave they wanted to make change. They wanted to
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change the dynamic and the trajectory of the team, which
they have done. They have been nothing but successful for
the last five years. So I don't see this as
a situation where Kyle is like he's looking over the
fence and saying, hey, that grass is growing in a
little bit greener than mine. He knows he has the pieces. Obviously,
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the last time they had this number of Pro Bowl
or All Pro players on IR is twenty twenty. You
have to win the war of attrition to be a
good football team, and in sometimes good football teams up
run up against it. And it's a situation where they've
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run up against it. And he knows this year doesn't
make what next year is, just like last year doesn't
make what this year is. Sure season didn't been around
enough to know he's not gonna tuck and run when
things get hard.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I get that, and I get that.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
But what we do know is gonna happen next year
is we know that George Kettle will be a year older.
And while his game doesn't look a step slower, Deebo
Samuel looks about three steps slower, and he gonna.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Be a year of tight outfits.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Man, they don't get enough circulation before the game walking
in in them leather pants with the zippers.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Either, that has got too much circulation from the couch
to the fridze, because that's what's making the outfit look tighter.
But nah, And then also you got the contract to
brock Purty coming up. This forty nine ers organization has
a lot of big decisions that are upcoming.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Like most organizations, that's just what that's football. When people
start pointing out, well, they gotta do this and they
gotta do that, that's not any different than any other
organization in football. At some point every time those tough
decisions come up, do you pack your things and go
to a situation where you have more time not to
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have to be a coach or make tough decisions. No,
I mean step into it and make the decisions best
for your your team.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
I'm coming this from a guy who was baptized the
Saints fan.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Right.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
So I watched the best friend, I watched the best
coach that my franchise ever had, you know, basically retire
when the salary cap got unmanageable and his quarterback left.
And now for the just for the price of a
second and the fourth round pick, you get the greatest
coach in New Orleans States franchise history to go up
to Denver for a six year contract. Like So that's
That's kind of where I'm at with it. I'm thinking, like,
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could one of these scenarios, could it be? You know,
your you're Chicago, You're you got Detroit who looks like
they're not going anywhere. With Dan Campbell Matt Laflor's installed.
You got two of the best coaches in the NFL,
probably in your division already. You don't do you want
to be another Antonio piers where you're in the division
with Harball Andy Reid.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I'll be rightful to Kyle Shanahan. Okay, what I'm saying,
I'm saying, Kyle, No, No, he's not an Antonio Piers.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, if you
are the Raiders, yes, you would have much probably rather
hired Jim Harbaugh this offseason than Antonio Piers. Then you
would maybe be going up against you know, you're going
to stack up against Sean Payton and Andy Reid. I'm saying,
if you're the Chicago Bears, wouldn't you rather have a
Kyle Shanahan to go over against that? Look, Dan Gampbell,
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they can't get Kyle Shanahan, they can't get him.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They had an opportunity to get Jim Hartball they didn't like. So,
speaking on Kyle and the San Francisco forty nine ers,
it is my opinion that Kyle will be there. He's
not going to leave, he's not looking to leave. Going
to be more difficult moving forward, but that's what they
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pay you for. And so I think whatever the Bears
decide to do, they have their own issues they need
to clean up. And yes, Caleb Williams is a bright
star and a otherwise cloudy sky over there in Chicago.
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But in terms of the forty nine ers, in Kyle Shanahan, him,
John Lynch, the core, the nucleus is there. It starts
up top and the front office, trickles down to the coaches,
and it trickles down to the locker room after that,
and all three of those things. Great owner, good management,
great coach. Players are going to come and go, Contracts
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will come and go. What can you do?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Can you?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yes, everybody's going to age, right, Everyone's going to at
a certain point, you're great player. Your great players will
age out. They have a pretty good quarterback. They haven't
had to pay for the last three years. They're going
to have to pay him money. Is he a sixty
million dollars a year quarterback? Probably not. I think there's
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some room for negotiation there. But that'll allow you some
wiggle room to do some other things that you need
to do to address some of the things in your team.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
All look, Kyle Shannahany, you might want to take some
advice from George Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Time to move on. Up Coming up next, an NFL
player committed an.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Unspeakable act against the that's a set against football.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Will he will they be able to recover that?
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Speaker 2 (13:57):
We didn't get a lot of play on this one
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give a shout out, go for it to a tremendous college.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Football season, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I will admit when they expanded the college playoff to
twelve teams, I felt a certain type of way. I'm like,
there aren't twelve teams deserving of playing for a college championship.
I was wrong, right, But what it did was it
added excitement. But I also want to single out one
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school in particular, and that's Army. Army had a tremendous
year this year. And you gotta remember they lost one game.
I believe they lost to uh uh, what was it?
Notre Dame. And in a time of n ILS, transfer
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transfer portals and everything and anything in between, the Army
doesn't have any of that, right. The one thing they
have is discipline. And to see them just stand tall
above a lot of other teams that have the flexibility
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of paying players and and and and guys moving in
and out of schools. You go to Army, you enlisted
into the military, that there's no you can't leave and
so shout out to them. Shout out to my guy TJ. Brady,
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who went to Army and all he could talk about
this whole season is Army and they're gonna win the
national Championship. Well, they didn't get that far, but they've
had the best season and Army history. So I wanted
to give a shout out to them and shout out
to all of the rest of the Armed Services. Thank
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you for your service and what you guys do to
keep us protected.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Hell, now they did lose another Dame forty nine to fourteen.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, it's Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
I'm not trying to take anything away, but you said
your man saying they play for a national championship. If
you delete that game, that conversation would be, Really, they're undefeated.
How are you gonna leave an undefeated team out? But
even still a one loss team is tough to leave out.
But I didn't understand, But ultimately, I mean, I got
but it would have been nice to see them as
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that twelfth seed.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I think that if you want to be patriotic people,
people on the on the committee, then that's that's what
That would have been, a move that said I love America.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Come on now.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I mean, all right, that's my rant for the better
way to support the troops.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
That's it. I agree with that wholeheartedly. All Right.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I got a question, yes, and NFL Playoff football, Do
you agree or disagree that more often than not the
best quarterback and coach combination advances Yes, more often than.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
More often than not. Yes, correct.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
So tell me then, why the Los Angeles Rams, who
now after winning last night in the story that everybody
forgets because of Campbell and Deebo Samuel, tell me why
the Los Angeles Rams can't represent the NFC in the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I can't tell you why. I can't tell you why
because I'm not gonna. I can't make an argument. Well,
the only argument I could make for that is hmmm,
because here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
The defense. We're not too familiar with some of them
players on the defense in terms of household value.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
But if you just watched the if you watch the game,
you see Jared versus Kobe Turner jumping off the Turner crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, he's he's a problem.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
They've had some special teams problems in the past, but
it seems like the kicker now is in good shape offensively, Offensively,
they lost with the you know the obviously the.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Losing the two receivers early in the year.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yes, they're back now and they're moving and I know
not yesterday, notwithstanding because it was a rainstorm in the
first half. What quarterback is playing better in the NFC
than Matthew Stafford right now?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Now, Matthew has always been, in my opinion, the top
tier quarterback, borderline elite.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
He can make every throw.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
He's tough is nails and spending twelve years in Detroit, UH,
fighting and clawing and amassing the numbers that he's put up. Now,
Rob will always say, well, he was in Androit. They're
patted numbers. They weren't losing. But I was there in
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Detroit one year, Matthew Stafford's rookie year, and when he
came in, I said, Oh, this kid's got something special.
And he's continued to have that. He got himself in
a better situation, got himself with a tremendous coach. They've
won a Super Bowl already, They've dealt with a bunch
of injuries, including to him last year, and so now
it's a situation where they're on a roll. They're hot
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at the right time, don't get blinded by the twelve
points they scored. That.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Don't get blinded by that. That was San Francisco rams.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's the type of games McVeigh and Senihanhattan they have.
That it's going to be like that no matter what.
Either they're going to be really high scoring or really
low scoring, but they'll always be close. And so I
couldn't sit here and tell you and argue against I mean,
I guess the biggest or the best argument would be
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Detroit seems like they're on a mission.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
That's what I was about to close it out right
before I kicked the Steve. I think we are headed
for a Detroit Los Angeles playoff rematch, this time in
the NFC Championship game.
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Speaker 2 (20:30):
Appreciate that Steve, the man, the myth, the legend. You're
getting younger? Are you getting younger?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Steve?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Are you doing something with your hair? Is it something different?
Is nothing? Okay? Looking good?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
You know from I don't know if you ever had
this experience in your life as a pro athlete, but
as a pro radio guy. I've never felt like that
was worse at my job than when I do the
updates for like the four or five hours and then
Steve comes in and he does the same thing I
was doing to stop listening it off. I mean makes
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it look easy. I mean like, well, he has whiskey
in that water bottle. He's Steve been doing this for
a long time. He old with school man. He got
a little whiskey.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I saw him on side smoking cigarettes in between and
in between updates. I'm lying, he's got the sky saying.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Lying?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's a universal what are you talking of? It wasn't cigarettes,
it was weed. Oh never mind?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
All right.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
So let me ask you this because I just had
this moment in the in the breakroom of a what
are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Moment?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
The Heisman Trophy is going to be awarded tomorrow. Yes,
do you think? Who do you think should win the
Heisman Trophy?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
There's only one answer, but go ahead, okay? And is
your answer Travis Hunter? One? Okay?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Because I just had one of the producers back here, Patrick,
They don't know anything.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
He tried to sell me on Ashon j t as
the Heisman winner. I am cute.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I'm like, okay, cool, like he had a great year.
I'm not knocking in one bit, But just tell me
he tackles?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Did he have? How many interceptions? Did ask Jenty? All right? Wait, okay, cool,
let's end of conversation.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
But Patrick was telling me that he thinks it's gonna
be a little closer than he thought.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Then then you know, then it seems because.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Because you got a couple inside sources that have seemed
to be leaning towards Jentt.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Okay, So I I agree with Patrick in terms of
it'll be closer than we expect it to be. Now,
when you talk about Genty and what he's been able
to do, I mean, it's unbelievable. You get his man
the ball, it's seven eight nine yards to carry, can't
tackle him, can't slow him down.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
We've seen that from a running back before. He doesn't
have the all time record. Now he has a bowl
game left. If he uh, well, he may have multiple
bowl games left.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
So I guess got at least one guarante, at least
on the bun So if he rushes for three hundred
yards in that one game, maybe more, depending on if
they win and move forward in the playoffs, then the
Heisman would have been handed out already. But then you're like, Okay,
what Travis Hunter has done we haven't seen. We haven't
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seen since leather helmets, when you only had my nineteen
players on an entire team.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
So everybody had to play on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
This is when Gods was playing football on the lunch
break from the Factor period.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The fact that this young man averaged over one hundred
plus snaps a game at the highest level, Power five
conference on a team that won nine games in one
game away from being in the championship and in the playoffs,
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how do you not give it to that guy? I
liken it to what Showhy was doing and batting. Yep,
no one else is doing it. So at that level,
I'm not talking about he's just out there. No, he's
leading the team and receiving, he's a shutdown corner, he's tackling,
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he's all of the things you want a player to do.
He's doing and he loves to do them. And so
if I'm awarding the heisman, I'm looking like, oh, this
is something we haven't seen this is special.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
He is the best player in college.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Where I think it'll be closer is for whatever reason,
the whole Colorado Dion, that whole situation rubs people the
wrong way.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
See my hair's my thing.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
I get that. I get that because I'll be honest,
hand up are you? It fucked me a little bit
the first of the first year. One you know, do
you believe after one game? I'm like, all right, hold on.
But to me, they they took their medicine last year.
Of course, you fashing the year losing seven straight or
one only winning one.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Of the last eight games.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Like you, they took the medicine. This is a much
better team, and this team is better. That's what I
like when you look at this team. This team has
gotten better week after week in a way that last
year's Colorado team did not. And I think that you
when you look at Okay, So it was to me
it was a little easier last year to be like, oh,
Deon's a snake oil salesman. Oh Dion is just you
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know what I'm saying, Dion is all blufter.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
He's just a person.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Those personal things, and I think that's what's going to
bring people the way he was outspoken about Travis not
being up for the Thorpe Award, right the way, the
fact that they left Shadeure Sounders off the heisman, the
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top four heisman like, those are the types of things
that let you further, let you know, oh, this thing
is not going to be unanimous. It will be closer
than we think it will be because for whatever reason,
I'm telling you that Colorado situation, Dion, I love it.
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By the way, talk yo ish okay. He's a tremendous coach,
has always been a tremendous coach on every level kids.
As a coach of kids, I coach from nine to
twelve year olds in basketball. I know what motivation, I
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know what words of affirmation, I know what tough love,
I know what that turns into.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I know what that.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Payoff is, right, the making of better men. Now you
that's the point.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
And whether you go pro or not, whether you ever
play football ever again, you're a better person.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And that was his whole thing.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'm trying to create men, right, I'm trying to I'm
not creating NFL players, I'm creating men. If you send
me your boy, I'll give you back a man. And
I as a father, as a coach, that resonates with me.
Dems always gonna talk trash. His teams, all his kids
are gonna talk trash. They're good, they'll be in the
NFL next year, and so sometimes you just talk your trash.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Sure, yeah, I just I to me, it's very simple,
and I look, oh.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
What the record, Oh you know the win loss record.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
He's the best player in college football, period whatver.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Look, we don't have to have a big debate about it.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It doesn't have to be something that rates highly on
television because it's not confrontational.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's not controversial.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
He's the best player in college football because he's doing
things we've ever seen in college ball. And if that's
not what the heisman is, then I don't know what
the heisman is supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
It's not even subjective. It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You can't watch Travis Hunter and be like, he's not
the best player in college football. Now, you could say
Aston Gentry is the best running back did but it's not.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
It's it's not.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Even about, you know, because a lot of people will
make the argument, you know and take away, oh he
played against the discompetition. I don't even care about that.
I'm all of that is finding good. I take nothing
away from that. It's just when when you are making
plays to win games on both sides of the ball
consistently in a place in what your team is counting
(28:40):
on you to do so right. He's not like like
Jabrill Peppers who played a little bit on offense, or
Chris Gamble before him for us they played a little
bit on offense.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
No, no, no, he saw every snap he's.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Out there, and so for that, I think he deserves
to be holding the trophy tomorrow. Coming up next, we
saw two different wide receivers complain about getting the ball right,
and everybody.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Says, oh, why are you complaining? Look at it. I
think I might know the reason, Ephraim.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
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you know, in a state of emergency.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
A J.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Brown turns Philadelphia into state of emergency when he said
they need to work on the quote passing. And then,
if you've paid attention to haven't been under a rock
over the week, you saw the back and forth Brandon
Graham saying.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
These guys are really friends.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Oh wait, never mind, I didn't really mean that, you know,
and then everybody kind of going back and forth with
all of it.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Right then we also saw Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Tweet out of nowhere, I'm not struggling, I'm just not
getting the ball. And then and what to me, honestly
is the best community note of all time, somebody posted
under it he leads the team and drops right, so
receipts more on the AJ sided things. I'm curious though,
because wide receiver is the only position where everything has
(30:43):
to go right for you to get the ball right
like running back. Well, the running back is still get
the ball if offensive lineman misses the block and maybe
make somebody missing the backfield.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
In theory, that's what. But wide receiver, you gotta go block.
He's got to be right, and you gotta get it.
You gotta run around, and you gotta be open.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Dah, I'm saying on top of that, right, So it's
not because you got to be open. Blockings gotta be right.
Quarterbacks got to have the ball, be able to get
you the ball. Everything's got to happen right. How much
of this do you think could be potentially because we
look at this and we see Rock Party and Jalen
Hurts are the quarterbacks who are running their offenses.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
We don't really ever hear this out.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Of guys in Kansas City, or we heard a little
bit from Stefan Diggs and Buffalo Ish, but it was
never as abrupt or as direct as passing, you know,
as it was when with what AJ said in the
locker room.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
How much of this complaint is.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
About just like, basically, my quarterback can't get me the
ball this show, Jalen Hurts, don't throw the ball over
the middle. Rock Party's arm isn't as strong as some
of the other guys.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
How much of it is that.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's not as strong as some of the other guys
in inclement weather. But Rock Party, if you look at
his numbers and passes down the field, he's up there
in terms of, you know, airtime and being able to
the ball. That was the difference between him and and
Jimmy Garoppolo. Rock Perty would actually put the ball up
(32:07):
in the air. It's easier to put the ball up
in the air when you have a bevy of receivers
running around out there and a defense. Word about the
best running back and will arguably the best running back
in football and Christian McCaffrey, so they don't have two
high safeties. Without Christian McCaffrey, you don't have to bring
(32:29):
safeties down. So it's difficult to get the ball down
the field with two high safeties. That's why you just
have to hand the ball off. But when your running
back room is decimated with injury, now all of these
things start to point the problem I had with what
aj Brown said they won the football game. If they
(32:53):
lost and he had the three receptions, I could see
him being like, I need to get the ball.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I want to help us be able to win these games. Right,
I can get that. But you won.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
And you're what are they twelve and two, eleven and two?
You've won nine in a row, and you decided after
winning a close game and you're ninth straight that this
is the time where you're going to highlight that you
(33:37):
guys are having passing problems because you're not getting the
ball to me. That is also selfishness. Like we talked
about at the top of the show about what was
going on on the sidelines with San Francisco, it can't
(33:57):
just be about you. And I know your numbers are
important in all of these things, but when you're winning
football games and you may not, you have the best
running back in football, see right, Like, so go ahead
to me, that is that's the formula.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
So so But okay, so I hear you do you
but no, but look flip the calendar back three hundred
and sixty five days around this time.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yes, what were the Eagles ten and.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
One playing a lot similar to the way they're playing
right now, went on a tail spin down the stretch.
They didn't have sey Kwon Barkley. Go ahead, they didn't.
I get they didn't have say Kwon Barkley. That's true,
that's a big That's not I'm not I'm not taking
I'm not trying to put that aside. I'm trying to
take that away. You can't tell me a guy who's
knocking on the door. Eric Diggers's rushing record is just
(34:53):
a throw aside. So I'm not trying to do that, right,
But I am wondering if I'm not saying that. Aj
Brown is saying they need we need to stop running
the ball so much and we need to throw the
ball more. But he's saying, well, I'm saying, is there
a space, though?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Is there a space?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
You're a former player, because this is me sitting here
because look, I'm looking at all the things that would
normally set a receiver off. All Right, has he gotten
paid AJ Brown twice now as a Philadelphia Eagle?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Right? Have you won? Well? They got to the super.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Bowl, right, so they know that this is an organization
which you can get you can achieve high things. Right,
you can be a game away from winning the whole thing,
but he wants a game away from winning the whole thing.
Then the next year it all falls apart down the
stretch and part because of the way the offense was
playing outside of the toush push, right, I think the
touch push covered up for a lot of different things.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Now you're in the same spot again.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Is any of this saying, look, we can beat Carolina,
who has been playing better football now but is not
playing by no means as a contender. We can beat
that if Xavier look at drops the ball with fifty
four seconds.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Left on the goal line.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
But when we need to play the teams that we
need to play, we're gonna have to throw the ball more.
Is there any of that that that touches you in
any and any and anywhere in your former player you.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Know, because you win how you win, you win how
you win.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
But okay, but yeah, okay, but this is taking it
a little far. To go ahead one one hundred and
eight passing yards to win twenty one passing attempts. It
was thirty one rushing attempts for two hundred and nine yards.
What are we talking about? I get that I'm not
talking about the Panthers. I'm talking about when going forward
(36:41):
they're gonna play the Packers for are the Lions are
card to pick this game to make the comments?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So I'm going off his emotional state after this game. Okay,
he had four receptions for forty three yards, led the
team in receptions and yards. That's what I'm saying, doesn't
sa Kuon Barkley had twenty carries for one hundred and
twenty four yards. That's six yards of carry. But that
(37:14):
is a like that it is and it has been
the entire year. So you are giving me hypotheticals about
what it's going to be and we have no proof
of what that is going to be. Sa Kwon Barkley
has meant that much to this team to where I
(37:36):
don't see a team being able to stop him as
he's on the cusp of breaking the single season all
time rushing record. Now, if you're a receiver and you
guys are instead of eleven and two.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Winning nine in a row, if.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Your six and seven r six and are seven and eight,
I get it coming up next.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
They said he'd be crazy to do it in college.
Is it gonna be crazier at the next level. Martin
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Let me just commend you Martin on your work ethic,
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Filling in for the Slackers, that is Rob Parker and
Kelvin wark Hey.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Listen. Sometimes sometimes the starters.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
They take a day off and at that moment, generally
the guys come off the bench and play well.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Sometimes they just leave the field and decide, I don't
want to play.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Exactly, unless it was Thursday night. Just yesterday, we.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Saw Deveon Dre Campbell walk off the field midway through
the third quarter as the San Francisco forty nine is
we're in the midst of losing to the Los Angeles Rams,
and I mean Drake Greenlaw came back after tearing his
achilles in the Super Bowl. We all saw that as
he was running onto the field in the second quarter.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
He was finally back.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
It was won the one bright spot this year for
the forty nine ers and the year that has been
just dark and cloudy basically since the start of it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Remember when Brandon Aiyuk wanted to get paid.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yeah, that's how long it's been forty nine er Land
and so you know, Deviondre Campbell says after the third
quarter when they wanted to rest, Dre Greenlawn and d
Winters got hurt. You know, he said no, mos He
said I'm good. I don't want to go out there.
If you don't want me in the first quarter, then
you didn't want me in the third quarter. Now, even
I never played professional football, believe it or not, you
(02:18):
didn't shocking, I know, but you did. So I want
to ask you, as a guy in the locker room,
have you ever seen anything like this?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And if you did, what was your reaction. No, I've
never seen anything like this. I've seen guys be late.
I've seen guys you know, not come in focused, but
on Sundays. I've never been a part of a team
where a guy walked off the field and refused to
(02:47):
go in the game. And I'm glad because it's so
troubling on so many levels. The great thing about like football,
no matter who's that quarterback or running back or no
matter what's going on, it's a team sport, yep. And
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whenever there is a moment where you feel like you're
more important than the team, then it's time to go
look for something else to do. Now, I don't know
what's going on in this young man's life. It could
come out in two weeks that something horrific had happened,
(03:31):
and it's felt like We don't know what it is.
But at first glance, what did Mike Singletary say? Can't
win with them? Can't do it? And that's how I
feel about this situation. You can't be in that locker
room look at those guys, especially the type of season
(03:53):
the forty nine ers are having. You can't look at
those guys in the face and be like, that was
my bad man tripping.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
You can't trip like that now?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Is it intensified because of the season the forty Like
if the forty nine ers were eleven and two right now,
would we be having the same level of conversation about.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
This, we'd be digging deeper into I wonder what's going
on in his life? But because it's a ship on
fire man overboard, now it lends to, oh, this is
another reason why the forty nine ers aren't having the
type of season that the injuries, this type of discord
(04:35):
in the locker room, this all makes this. People are
now going, oh, yeah, the forty nine ers are done
and they're in trouble. Because when things start coming out
this negative about a team, the first thing you do
is you look at the record. You'd be like, oh,
(04:55):
this is a systematic thing. Then something's going on within
that locker room.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I thought initially when I saw him walking off the field,
was oh, he must be hurt. Then, realizing he had
played no snaps prior to that moment, I said, oh,
this is interesting, what's going on here?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Now?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I agree with you in that we don't know the
whole story. We've yet to hear from mister Campbell himself
about why he decided to remove himself from the sideline,
But the response of his teammates after the game and
the directness of the coach after the game lends me
to believe that there is not some more, something that's
more you know, out there and is off the field
(05:35):
right that has made impacting him and impacting his decision making.
But it does speak to the idea what you were
saying this second ago of how things have been so
tumultuous in the locker room, both off the field and
on the field for the forty nine ers all year,
starting with the Brandon Ayuka and his contract situation at
Christian McCaffrey and his injury and will he come back
though he's actually got to go to Germany?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
What's that about? Right? And then you have the you.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Know, two players had, you know, terrible family incidents happened
when which you know their newborn child has recently passed away.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Like that's something that they're a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
That is something that it's hard to get up and
go to regular work, much less when it's hard to
when it's somebody else's job to stop you from doing yours.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, it's a lot going on.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And so my thought was when I was watching the
end of this game and I'm seeing and this is
kind of tied on the hills of Bill Belichick, and
we'll talk about him coming up at eight o'clock, you know,
we'll talk about his impact and what he's got going
on in North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But some of the reporting there was in the NFL
didn't want them.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I feel like if Kyle Shanahan was on the market,
the NFL would want him.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
And it made me wonder because.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
We were talking about should the forty Downers move on
from Kyle Shanahan with this type of stuff going on? Right,
with everything that was laid out and then all the
success that he has had there, I'll be it not
winning a championship, all the success he has had there,
all the players aging, is it do you think Shanahan
would be interested in sticking around for a rebuild or
or with one of these situations like Chicago, for example,
(07:03):
look more appealing because to me, if I'm college and
I'm looking at everything, even my team stinks, Now, well
that team stinks, but at least they got a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah. But I think just knowing Kyle and I do.
I mean Kyle when he.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Was was in college and then also on a professional level.
He was my offensive coordinator in Houston. Uh so we
I know each other. We know each other. We played
Xbox together, we play Halo together. Was he did he
beat you?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Now?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I'm nice on them stakes? Okay, anyway, that's another that's
another topic in another show. Uh, Kyle's not going anywhere.
It's a situation. He's perfectly happy in this situation. The
control that they have. Him and John Lynch, they're like
(07:59):
a package, right. They came in this thing together. They
both asked for guarantee five year contracts because they didn't
want to get into a situation where two years things
didn't go the way they expected them to go. The
turnaround hadn't been complete. They didn't want to be forced
to leave they wanted to make change. They wanted to
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change the dynamic and the trajectory of the team, which
they have done. They have been nothing but successful for
the last five years. So I don't see this as
a situation where Kyle is like he's looking over the
fence and saying, hey, that grass is growing in a
little bit greener than mine. He knows he has the pieces. Obviously,
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the last time they had this number of Pro Bowl
or All Pro players on IR is twenty twenty. You
have to win the war of attrition to be a
good football team, and in sometimes good football teams up
run up against it. And it's a situation where they've
(09:06):
run up against it. And he knows this year doesn't
make what next year is, just like last year doesn't
make what this year is. Sure season didn't been around
enough to know he's not gonna tuck and run when
things get hard.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I get that, and I get that.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
But what we do know is gonna happen next year
is we know that George Kettle will be a year older.
And while his game doesn't look a step slower, Deebo
Samuel looks about three steps slower, and he gonna.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Be a year of tight outfits.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Man, they don't get enough circulation before the game walking
in in them leather pants with the zippers.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Either, that has got too much circulation from the couch
to the fridze, because that's what's making the outfit look tighter.
But nah, And then also you got the contract to
brock Purty coming up. This forty nine ers organization has
a lot of big decisions that are upcoming.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Like most organizations, that's just what that's football. When people
start pointing out, well, they gotta do this and they
gotta do that, that's not any different than any other
organization in football. At some point every time those tough
decisions come up, do you pack your things and go
to a situation where you have more time not to
(10:15):
have to be a coach or make tough decisions. No,
I mean step into it and make the decisions best
for your your team.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
I'm coming this from a guy who was baptized the
Saints fan.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Right.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
So I watched the best friend, I watched the best
coach that my franchise ever had, you know, basically retire
when the salary cap got unmanageable and his quarterback left.
And now for the just for the price of a
second and the fourth round pick, you get the greatest
coach in New Orleans States franchise history to go up
to Denver for a six year contract. Like So that's
That's kind of where I'm at with it. I'm thinking, like,
(10:50):
could one of these scenarios, could it be? You know,
your you're Chicago, You're you got Detroit who looks like
they're not going anywhere. With Dan Campbell Matt Laflor's installed.
You got two of the best coaches in the NFL,
probably in your division already. You don't do you want
to be another Antonio piers where you're in the division
with Harball Andy Reid.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I'll be rightful to Kyle Shanahan. Okay, what I'm saying,
I'm saying, Kyle, No, No, he's not an Antonio Piers.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, if you
are the Raiders, yes, you would have much probably rather
hired Jim Harbaugh this offseason than Antonio Piers. Then you
would maybe be going up against you know, you're going
to stack up against Sean Payton and Andy Reid. I'm saying,
if you're the Chicago Bears, wouldn't you rather have a
Kyle Shanahan to go over against that? Look, Dan Gampbell,
(11:39):
they can't get Kyle Shanahan, they can't get him.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They had an opportunity to get Jim Hartball they didn't like. So,
speaking on Kyle and the San Francisco forty nine ers,
it is my opinion that Kyle will be there. He's
not going to leave, he's not looking to leave. Going
to be more difficult moving forward, but that's what they
(12:04):
pay you for. And so I think whatever the Bears
decide to do, they have their own issues they need
to clean up. And yes, Caleb Williams is a bright
star and a otherwise cloudy sky over there in Chicago.
(12:24):
But in terms of the forty nine ers, in Kyle Shanahan, him,
John Lynch, the core, the nucleus is there. It starts
up top and the front office, trickles down to the coaches,
and it trickles down to the locker room after that,
and all three of those things. Great owner, good management,
great coach. Players are going to come and go, Contracts
(12:46):
will come and go. What can you do?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Can you?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yes, everybody's going to age, right, Everyone's going to at
a certain point, you're great player. Your great players will
age out. They have a pretty good quarterback. They haven't
had to pay for the last three years. They're going
to have to pay him money. Is he a sixty
million dollars a year quarterback? Probably not. I think there's
(13:10):
some room for negotiation there. But that'll allow you some
wiggle room to do some other things that you need
to do to address some of the things in your team.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
All look, Kyle Shannahany, you might want to take some
advice from George Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Time to move on. Up Coming up next, an NFL
player committed an.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Unspeakable act against the that's a set against football.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Will he will they be able to recover that?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
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We didn't get a lot of play on this one
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(14:19):
give a shout out, go for it to a tremendous college.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Football season, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I will admit when they expanded the college playoff to
twelve teams, I felt a certain type of way. I'm like,
there aren't twelve teams deserving of playing for a college championship.
I was wrong, right, But what it did was it
added excitement. But I also want to single out one
(14:51):
school in particular, and that's Army. Army had a tremendous
year this year. And you gotta remember they lost one game.
I believe they lost to uh uh, what was it?
Notre Dame. And in a time of n ILS, transfer
(15:16):
transfer portals and everything and anything in between, the Army
doesn't have any of that, right. The one thing they
have is discipline. And to see them just stand tall
above a lot of other teams that have the flexibility
(15:41):
of paying players and and and and guys moving in
and out of schools. You go to Army, you enlisted
into the military, that there's no you can't leave and
so shout out to them. Shout out to my guy TJ. Brady,
(16:02):
who went to Army and all he could talk about
this whole season is Army and they're gonna win the
national Championship. Well, they didn't get that far, but they've
had the best season and Army history. So I wanted
to give a shout out to them and shout out
to all of the rest of the Armed Services. Thank
(16:23):
you for your service and what you guys do to
keep us protected.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Hell, now they did lose another Dame forty nine to fourteen.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, it's Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
I'm not trying to take anything away, but you said
your man saying they play for a national championship. If
you delete that game, that conversation would be, Really, they're undefeated.
How are you gonna leave an undefeated team out? But
even still a one loss team is tough to leave out.
But I didn't understand, But ultimately, I mean, I got
but it would have been nice to see them as
(16:56):
that twelfth seed.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I think that if you want to be patriotic people,
people on the on the committee, then that's that's what
That would have been, a move that said I love America.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Come on now.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I mean, all right, that's my rant for the better
way to support the troops.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
That's it. I agree with that wholeheartedly. All Right.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I got a question, yes, and NFL Playoff football, Do
you agree or disagree that more often than not the
best quarterback and coach combination advances Yes, more often than.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
More often than not. Yes, correct.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
So tell me then, why the Los Angeles Rams, who
now after winning last night in the story that everybody
forgets because of Campbell and Deebo Samuel, tell me why
the Los Angeles Rams can't represent the NFC in the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I can't tell you why. I can't tell you why
because I'm not gonna. I can't make an argument. Well,
the only argument I could make for that is hmmm,
because here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
The defense. We're not too familiar with some of them
players on the defense in terms of household value.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
But if you just watched the if you watch the game,
you see Jared versus Kobe Turner jumping off the Turner crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, he's he's a problem.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
They've had some special teams problems in the past, but
it seems like the kicker now is in good shape offensively, Offensively,
they lost with the you know the obviously the.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Losing the two receivers early in the year.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yes, they're back now and they're moving and I know
not yesterday, notwithstanding because it was a rainstorm in the
first half. What quarterback is playing better in the NFC
than Matthew Stafford right now?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Now, Matthew has always been, in my opinion, the top
tier quarterback, borderline elite.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
He can make every throw.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
He's tough is nails and spending twelve years in Detroit, UH,
fighting and clawing and amassing the numbers that he's put up. Now,
Rob will always say, well, he was in Androit. They're
patted numbers. They weren't losing. But I was there in
(19:13):
Detroit one year, Matthew Stafford's rookie year, and when he
came in, I said, Oh, this kid's got something special.
And he's continued to have that. He got himself in
a better situation, got himself with a tremendous coach. They've
won a Super Bowl already, They've dealt with a bunch
of injuries, including to him last year, and so now
it's a situation where they're on a roll. They're hot
(19:36):
at the right time, don't get blinded by the twelve
points they scored. That.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Don't get blinded by that. That was San Francisco rams.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's the type of games McVeigh and Senihanhattan they have.
That it's going to be like that no matter what.
Either they're going to be really high scoring or really
low scoring, but they'll always be close. And so I
couldn't sit here and tell you and argue against I mean,
I guess the biggest or the best argument would be
(20:06):
Detroit seems like they're on a mission.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
That's what I was about to close it out right
before I kicked the Steve. I think we are headed
for a Detroit Los Angeles playoff rematch, this time in
the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
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Speaker 2 (20:30):
Appreciate that Steve, the man, the myth, the legend. You're
getting younger? Are you getting younger?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Steve?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Are you doing something with your hair? Is it something different?
Is nothing? Okay? Looking good?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
You know from I don't know if you ever had
this experience in your life as a pro athlete, but
as a pro radio guy. I've never felt like that
was worse at my job than when I do the
updates for like the four or five hours and then
Steve comes in and he does the same thing I
was doing to stop listening it off. I mean makes
(21:02):
it look easy. I mean like, well, he has whiskey
in that water bottle. He's Steve been doing this for
a long time. He old with school man. He got
a little whiskey.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I saw him on side smoking cigarettes in between and
in between updates. I'm lying, he's got the sky saying.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Lying?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's a universal what are you talking of? It wasn't cigarettes,
it was weed. Oh never mind?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
All right.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
So let me ask you this because I just had
this moment in the in the breakroom of a what
are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Moment?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
The Heisman Trophy is going to be awarded tomorrow. Yes,
do you think? Who do you think should win the
Heisman Trophy?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
There's only one answer, but go ahead, okay? And is
your answer Travis Hunter? One? Okay?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Because I just had one of the producers back here, Patrick,
They don't know anything.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
He tried to sell me on Ashon j t as
the Heisman winner. I am cute.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I'm like, okay, cool, like he had a great year.
I'm not knocking in one bit, But just tell me
he tackles?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Did he have? How many interceptions? Did ask Jenty? All right? Wait, okay, cool,
let's end of conversation.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
But Patrick was telling me that he thinks it's gonna
be a little closer than he thought.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Then then you know, then it seems because.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Because you got a couple inside sources that have seemed
to be leaning towards Jentt.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Okay, So I I agree with Patrick in terms of
it'll be closer than we expect it to be. Now,
when you talk about Genty and what he's been able
to do, I mean, it's unbelievable. You get his man
the ball, it's seven eight nine yards to carry, can't
tackle him, can't slow him down.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
We've seen that from a running back before. He doesn't
have the all time record. Now he has a bowl
game left. If he uh, well, he may have multiple
bowl games left.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
So I guess got at least one guarante, at least
on the bun So if he rushes for three hundred
yards in that one game, maybe more, depending on if
they win and move forward in the playoffs, then the
Heisman would have been handed out already. But then you're like, Okay,
what Travis Hunter has done we haven't seen. We haven't
(23:16):
seen since leather helmets, when you only had my nineteen
players on an entire team.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
So everybody had to play on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
This is when Gods was playing football on the lunch
break from the Factor period.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The fact that this young man averaged over one hundred
plus snaps a game at the highest level, Power five
conference on a team that won nine games in one
game away from being in the championship and in the playoffs,
(23:52):
how do you not give it to that guy? I
liken it to what Showhy was doing and batting. Yep,
no one else is doing it. So at that level,
I'm not talking about he's just out there. No, he's
leading the team and receiving, he's a shutdown corner, he's tackling,
(24:14):
he's all of the things you want a player to do.
He's doing and he loves to do them. And so
if I'm awarding the heisman, I'm looking like, oh, this
is something we haven't seen this is special.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
He is the best player in college.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Where I think it'll be closer is for whatever reason,
the whole Colorado Dion, that whole situation rubs people the
wrong way.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
See my hair's my thing.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
I get that. I get that because I'll be honest,
hand up are you? It fucked me a little bit
the first of the first year. One you know, do
you believe after one game? I'm like, all right, hold on.
But to me, they they took their medicine last year.
Of course, you fashing the year losing seven straight or
one only winning one.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Of the last eight games.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Like you, they took the medicine. This is a much
better team, and this team is better. That's what I
like when you look at this team. This team has
gotten better week after week in a way that last
year's Colorado team did not. And I think that you
when you look at Okay, So it was to me
it was a little easier last year to be like, oh,
Deon's a snake oil salesman. Oh Dion is just you
(25:35):
know what I'm saying, Dion is all blufter.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
He's just a person.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Those personal things, and I think that's what's going to
bring people the way he was outspoken about Travis not
being up for the Thorpe Award, right the way, the
fact that they left Shadeure Sounders off the heisman, the
(26:01):
top four heisman like, those are the types of things
that let you further, let you know, oh, this thing
is not going to be unanimous. It will be closer
than we think it will be because for whatever reason,
I'm telling you that Colorado situation, Dion, I love it.
(26:23):
By the way, talk yo ish okay. He's a tremendous coach,
has always been a tremendous coach on every level kids.
As a coach of kids, I coach from nine to
twelve year olds in basketball. I know what motivation, I
(26:44):
know what words of affirmation, I know what tough love,
I know what that turns into.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I know what that.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Payoff is, right, the making of better men. Now you
that's the point.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
And whether you go pro or not, whether you ever
play football ever again, you're a better person.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And that was his whole thing.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'm trying to create men, right, I'm trying to I'm
not creating NFL players, I'm creating men. If you send
me your boy, I'll give you back a man. And
I as a father, as a coach, that resonates with me.
Dems always gonna talk trash. His teams, all his kids
are gonna talk trash. They're good, they'll be in the
NFL next year, and so sometimes you just talk your trash.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Sure, yeah, I just I to me, it's very simple,
and I look, oh.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
What the record, Oh you know the win loss record.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
He's the best player in college football, period whatver.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Look, we don't have to have a big debate about it.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It doesn't have to be something that rates highly on
television because it's not confrontational.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's not controversial.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
He's the best player in college football because he's doing
things we've ever seen in college ball. And if that's
not what the heisman is, then I don't know what
the heisman is supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
It's not even subjective. It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You can't watch Travis Hunter and be like, he's not
the best player in college football. Now, you could say
Aston Gentry is the best running back did but it's not.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
It's it's not.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Even about, you know, because a lot of people will
make the argument, you know and take away, oh he
played against the discompetition. I don't even care about that.
I'm all of that is finding good. I take nothing
away from that. It's just when when you are making
plays to win games on both sides of the ball
consistently in a place in what your team is counting
(28:40):
on you to do so right. He's not like like
Jabrill Peppers who played a little bit on offense, or
Chris Gamble before him for us they played a little
bit on offense.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
No, no, no, he saw every snap he's.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Out there, and so for that, I think he deserves
to be holding the trophy tomorrow. Coming up next, we
saw two different wide receivers complain about getting the ball right,
and everybody.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Says, oh, why are you complaining? Look at it. I
think I might know the reason, Ephraim.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
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you know, in a state of emergency.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
A J.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Brown turns Philadelphia into state of emergency when he said
they need to work on the quote passing. And then,
if you've paid attention to haven't been under a rock
over the week, you saw the back and forth Brandon
Graham saying.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
These guys are really friends.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Oh wait, never mind, I didn't really mean that, you know,
and then everybody kind of going back and forth with
all of it.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Right then we also saw Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Tweet out of nowhere, I'm not struggling, I'm just not
getting the ball. And then and what to me, honestly
is the best community note of all time, somebody posted
under it he leads the team and drops right, so
receipts more on the AJ sided things. I'm curious though,
because wide receiver is the only position where everything has
(30:43):
to go right for you to get the ball right
like running back. Well, the running back is still get
the ball if offensive lineman misses the block and maybe
make somebody missing the backfield.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
In theory, that's what. But wide receiver, you gotta go block.
He's got to be right, and you gotta get it.
You gotta run around, and you gotta be open.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Dah, I'm saying on top of that, right, So it's
not because you got to be open. Blockings gotta be right.
Quarterbacks got to have the ball, be able to get
you the ball. Everything's got to happen right. How much
of this do you think could be potentially because we
look at this and we see Rock Party and Jalen
Hurts are the quarterbacks who are running their offenses.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
We don't really ever hear this out.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Of guys in Kansas City, or we heard a little
bit from Stefan Diggs and Buffalo Ish, but it was
never as abrupt or as direct as passing, you know,
as it was when with what AJ said in the
locker room.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
How much of this complaint is.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
About just like, basically, my quarterback can't get me the
ball this show, Jalen Hurts, don't throw the ball over
the middle. Rock Party's arm isn't as strong as some
of the other guys.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
How much of it is that.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's not as strong as some of the other guys
in inclement weather. But Rock Party, if you look at
his numbers and passes down the field, he's up there
in terms of, you know, airtime and being able to
the ball. That was the difference between him and and
Jimmy Garoppolo. Rock Perty would actually put the ball up
(32:07):
in the air. It's easier to put the ball up
in the air when you have a bevy of receivers
running around out there and a defense. Word about the
best running back and will arguably the best running back
in football and Christian McCaffrey, so they don't have two
high safeties. Without Christian McCaffrey, you don't have to bring
(32:29):
safeties down. So it's difficult to get the ball down
the field with two high safeties. That's why you just
have to hand the ball off. But when your running
back room is decimated with injury, now all of these
things start to point the problem I had with what
aj Brown said they won the football game. If they
(32:53):
lost and he had the three receptions, I could see
him being like, I need to get the ball.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I want to help us be able to win these games. Right,
I can get that. But you won.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
And you're what are they twelve and two, eleven and two?
You've won nine in a row, and you decided after
winning a close game and you're ninth straight that this
is the time where you're going to highlight that you
(33:37):
guys are having passing problems because you're not getting the
ball to me. That is also selfishness. Like we talked
about at the top of the show about what was
going on on the sidelines with San Francisco, it can't
(33:57):
just be about you. And I know your numbers are
important in all of these things, but when you're winning
football games and you may not, you have the best
running back in football, see right, Like, so go ahead
to me, that is that's the formula.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
So so But okay, so I hear you do you
but no, but look flip the calendar back three hundred
and sixty five days around this time.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yes, what were the Eagles ten and.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
One playing a lot similar to the way they're playing
right now, went on a tail spin down the stretch.
They didn't have sey Kwon Barkley. Go ahead, they didn't.
I get they didn't have say Kwon Barkley. That's true,
that's a big That's not I'm not I'm not taking
I'm not trying to put that aside. I'm trying to
take that away. You can't tell me a guy who's
knocking on the door. Eric Diggers's rushing record is just
(34:53):
a throw aside. So I'm not trying to do that, right,
But I am wondering if I'm not saying that. Aj
Brown is saying they need we need to stop running
the ball so much and we need to throw the
ball more. But he's saying, well, I'm saying, is there
a space, though?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Is there a space?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
You're a former player, because this is me sitting here
because look, I'm looking at all the things that would
normally set a receiver off. All Right, has he gotten
paid AJ Brown twice now as a Philadelphia Eagle?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Right? Have you won? Well? They got to the super.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Bowl, right, so they know that this is an organization
which you can get you can achieve high things. Right,
you can be a game away from winning the whole thing,
but he wants a game away from winning the whole thing.
Then the next year it all falls apart down the
stretch and part because of the way the offense was
playing outside of the toush push, right, I think the
touch push covered up for a lot of different things.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Now you're in the same spot again.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Is any of this saying, look, we can beat Carolina,
who has been playing better football now but is not
playing by no means as a contender. We can beat
that if Xavier look at drops the ball with fifty
four seconds.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Left on the goal line.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
But when we need to play the teams that we
need to play, we're gonna have to throw the ball more.
Is there any of that that that touches you in
any and any and anywhere in your former player you.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Know, because you win how you win, you win how
you win.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
But okay, but yeah, okay, but this is taking it
a little far. To go ahead one one hundred and
eight passing yards to win twenty one passing attempts. It
was thirty one rushing attempts for two hundred and nine yards.
What are we talking about? I get that I'm not
talking about the Panthers. I'm talking about when going forward
(36:41):
they're gonna play the Packers for are the Lions are
card to pick this game to make the comments?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So I'm going off his emotional state after this game. Okay,
he had four receptions for forty three yards, led the
team in receptions and yards. That's what I'm saying, doesn't
sa Kuon Barkley had twenty carries for one hundred and
twenty four yards. That's six yards of carry. But that
(37:14):
is a like that it is and it has been
the entire year. So you are giving me hypotheticals about
what it's going to be and we have no proof
of what that is going to be. Sa Kwon Barkley
has meant that much to this team to where I
(37:36):
don't see a team being able to stop him as
he's on the cusp of breaking the single season all
time rushing record. Now, if you're a receiver and you
guys are instead of eleven and two.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Winning nine in a row, if.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Your six and seven r six and are seven and eight,
I get it coming up next.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
They said he'd be crazy to do it in college.
Is it gonna be crazier at the next level. Martin
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