December 13, 2024 • 38 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend hosts Martin Weiss and Ephraim Salaam are in for Rob and Kelvin, and the guys share their expectations for Bill Belichick as the new head football coach at North Carolina and tell us if Deion Sanders has what it takes to become a great NFL head coach if he decides to make the jump. Plus, the guys go head-to-head picking NFL Week 15 games against the spread in the Pigskin Pickoff.
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So if you had told me Ephraim, and you're somebody
who writes Hollywood stories for a living, if you had
told me six months ago that the Belichick story would
include a chapter coaching at North Carolina, I'd be like,
he from Salam couldn't sell that?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
What are we talking about? That guy?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
He from Salaam couldn't sell that. There's no way seventy
two year old coach. Oh, let me get back to school. Huh,
how creative? You know how I would have done it?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
How?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
So we all know it's a big hollabaloo about how
young Bill Belichick's new girlfriend is. Right, So, Bill Belichick,
being his age, feels insecure about his girlfriend getting her
master's degree at North Carolina. So not to feel like
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he's being overbearing, he decides to take a job there
to might keep an eye on her, because you know,
he knows her being around co Ed's her age and
things like that, he knows.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
What college is. That's how I would have wrote it, right.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
So now you have your boyfriend, who it could be
your grandpa, as the coach at the school you attend
to get your master's degree, and that dynamic and all
the things that ensue, and the starting quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Falls in love with.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Her, and now coach and that quarterback, and now do
you bench it like that's as a writer?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Okay, right?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You see how I put this pin on it right there? Well,
So while it may not be that, while I am
not banking that that's the only way though, love triangles
between Bill Belichick and the North Carolina and all that
and I'm not sure about the status of his twenty
four year old girlfriends secondary education.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I don't know if she's not a master's or what.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But I do know this, this is gonna have a
Hollywood ending, this North Carolina story.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Look at the landscape of college football.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Just three short years ago, Colorado football was one.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And eleven off of what you know, winning. I think
we're one of the won.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Four games total in like three years or something crazy
like that. Deon Sanders comes in, he brings his Louie
luggage with him. Year two, they are a game away
from the playoffs, right, a win away from the playoffs,
and they're probably gonna have the Heisman Trophy winner on
Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah. Indiana football.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Indiana football is one of the twelve teams playing for
a college football national championship right now. Indiana, if I
told you that twenty four months ago, you'd said there's
no way. But with Kurt Chicknetti coming, and he also
he didn't necessarily advertise it as such, but brought his
luckuage with him with the transport portal. I believe the
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twenty kids transferred to Indiana eleven start eleven starters. Yeah,
so why can't Belichick also bring his luggage with him.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
To North Carolinas. He doesn't have any luggage. He's not
bringing players from another team where he's had ultimate success with. Okay,
He's coming in cold turkey, so to speak. He's coming
in trying to learn and understand the landscape that's already there.
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He's not bringing his own plants and grass and things
for the backyard, the landscaping.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Of it all.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
He's coming in like, huh, they put grass over here.
He's coming in cold, trying to learn how to do
this and build it out the way he wants it.
He doesn't have those players that he knows that he
can trust. And that's that. I was the thing. Dion
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knew his son and Travis, both of his sons and
Travis and some of the other guys they brought.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
He knew what they had to offer. Indiana coach, he
knew those guys with them.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
He knew right, so they made the transition for their
coaches easy because they can, in a sense, affect the
culture of the locker room.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Right. You bring your leaders in.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
When I had played for Denver and I left and
went to Jacksonville and Gary Kubiak who's our offensive coordinator
in Denver, left and got the head coaching job in Houston.
He called me and said, hey, man, I need you
to come help me teach this old line how we
do it to build a culture. That's what coaches do, right.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Belichick doesn't have any players to call and help transform
that locker room. He's turned from scratch. He's using Mac
Brown's guys.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
And so that's where I think it's a little bit
different than Indiana and Colorado in terms of they.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Brought their luggage. I get that, So I can go
with that.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
But if you've been Belichick and the reporting is, and
that's all we have to really go off of is
just trusting their reporting saying that he has He and
Matt Lombardi are Mike Lombardi and Josh McDaniels and whoever
else was in the Belichickian brain trust have all been
auditing these leagues, auditing the league, seeing what jobs would
be open, and then transitioning to college. So I hear
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you that they may not have, you know, the actual
physical players in hand. They don't have Shador and Travis
Hunter or the myriad of guys brought from JMU and
other places from christpher Signetty, But it feels to me
that there is a inefficiency at the top of college
football along the lines of guys like Burton the receiver
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for Cincinnati who transferred from Georgia for Alabama to Georgia
right because they got young kids coming in. Or you
look at Ohio State starting Jeremiah Smith and Ryan william
Ryan Williams at Alabama freshmen coming in.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
There are juniors and seniors that are getting pushed out.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Of the door because of the new you know, the
new five star guy who's coming in, who's now making
more money than them and been promised more than them,
because it costs more to get a recruit in the
door these days. If I'm Belichick and I'm that brain trust,
I see, I mean, I would have to imagine that.
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AU see that if you're evaluating the transfer portal and
you're now getting guys who have played a lot of
college like Arizona State had a lot of guys transfering
a year ago under Kenny Dillingham, but a lot of
those guys had played a ton of college football register
they were experienced already, and e meetly raised the floor
of the roster if I'm Belichick, I could tell a
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kid your a sixth round pick right now. If you
come here, I will can teach you how to be
a I can make you a third round pick or
a second round pick. And he's the guy who's been
doing the picking. That works, but that takes longer. That's
a three year process. People are saying, well, look at
North Carolina schedule this year, this is a ten to
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win team. You don't have the players for it to
be a ten year team.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
They don't know who you are as a coach and
what your expectations are, and you don't have anybody in
that locker room that knows that, and so you have
to unteach or these kids have to unlearn as the
younger or new players coming in have to learn. That's
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the difference, and that's why I think I think this
is a if he can hang in there. I think
in the third year, when he's had two full years
of recruiting, bringing in guys, really understanding what's out there
in the portal and establishing what the tar Hill Way
is now based off what he did in New England,
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I think then can he go find his young Tom Brady?
Can he do that sure, and change the trajectory of
the school and the culture of the locker room. It's
going to take a little bit of time, so I
say it will have a Hollywood ending.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I have thought this probably starts out with a seven
to five to five and seven year one, okay, then
year two we're looking at nine ten wins competing in
bigger games, right maybe like maybe you upset a Clemson,
maybe you upset of Miami down you know, on that run,
depending on what Miami is now.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Sean King just a minute ago alluded.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
To the fact that they bought a ten and two
rob after and was laughing as I said, who knows
that the contracts will.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Be like after the Pop Tart role? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So, but I do think it's something fascinating, and I
think that when you look at the landscape of college
football what it is right now, if you pluck the
right kids from the wrong situations, you could really, seems
to me, really jump start a program.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah, but you can't miss and that's the difference. You know,
you're not missing what guys you bring in, you know. Okay,
that's fair, Okay, so you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Your point is, you have you know, that you know
that your door Sanders is one of the best three quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
You know what, you know exact Travis Hunter is the
best player in college, like you know what you have now.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
In the case of Belichick, he's just.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Hoping and I hope goes a long way, but not
in sports. I hope it's a hell of a drug.
And so there's going to be a period of Oh,
that's not the guy I thought it was. Oh, this
doesn't work like this, like we thought this was. We
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like them, but we need There's going to be a
lot of puzzle pieces. Not to mention the kid they're
going to lose to the portal, new coaches.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Coming in, other guys going out right.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Some of those kids on scholarship sitting in that locker
room are like, Oh, I didn't sign.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Up for this. This is a real thing.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
And so how many kids do you lose and do
how do you replace them? How many starters are you losing.
It's a lot of things that we don't know the
outcome yet. We're just so captivated by this thing, the
belichickness of it all. Going to college, there's so many
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nuanced things that have to happen that I don't even
know if he's ready for yet?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
No, I mean and I would hope. So if you
sat off, you had it all that time.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, but if you to write a four hundred page manifesto,
how you're gonna go ahead and look.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
At this in two weeks? If he realizes forty guys
from the current team enter the portal, what do you do?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Like? It's like, oh snap, that's a reality. He may
not like.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Ego is important here, and one thing we know coach
Belichick has is an ego?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
All right?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
What does that do to your ego? Before you even
really get your hands on these guys, they're ready to
jump out the window.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
How do you deal with that? It's a lot, there's
a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
This is not the pros now, Like all those accolades
and Tom and the championship that has nothing to do
with college football.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Those are great stories. You can tell it.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
You remind me of Tom Brady, right, you remind me
of Richard Seymour, You remind me of Willie Guinness.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You can do all of that all day long, sure,
but those players are not those players. Just a word
of advice to North Carolina players. If Belichick tells you
who reminds you of Mac Jones hit the portal, Go
now the long last question, because this is You're right,
this is fascinating from so many different angles. But the
know one I'm thinking now is Belichick, more than probably
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any coach in college football, has more experience with dealing
with measuring out the money to players to be able
to you know, because you had a salary cap. Then
now there is an artificial cap at North Carolina, there's no.
I don't think Michael Jordan's is writing blank checks to
the football form to get whoever you want.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
He should. Phil Knight is for Oregon, they're number one
in the country.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But you see, like I think that those are not
necessarily long term sustainable, like how long it's feeling like
going to be well? What Phil Knight wants is a championship.
Get that They're about to get it. So what I'm
asking though, is if once you get the one, maybe
you get two, Maybe that money drives up. Does the
ability to manage a salary cap as opposed to just
having carte blanche and spending. Does the ability to manage
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a salary cap factor into his level of success on
the next on the.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
College No, because it's not a true salary cap. It's
not a true salary cap. You can bring in a
quarterback and you can pay them, I think what they're
up to eighteen million dollars that they have to use.
You can pay them two million of that and the
season doesn't go the way he likes it, and then
he leaves with his money. So it's not a true salary.
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When you cut a player in the in the league,
you're only on the hook for guaranteed money.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Right.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
That's a lot of money to pay and to see
walk out the door in a year. There is no
two year, ten million dollar deal if you leave before
you got to get some of his back.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
See.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
The only thing that I would push back on is
it it felt that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
For some of his guys while he was in New England.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Belichick would have rather signed you will to a one
year deal every year. Yeah, and then to have the
conversation after games, you know, after whatever your own men. Yes,
you're now dealing with kids, but not only that, you're
dealing with their parents. My mom or my dad weren't
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talking to my agent or to teams during free agency, right,
You're dealing with parents. You think Bill Belichick wants to
talk to your dad about what you're not doing on
the field and the money, and that that he doesn't want.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
To do that.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
That's another element and one of those nuances that we
were not quite sure of.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
So we've just spent the last seventeen minutes to beating
the nuances of going from the NFL to college, even
though chick I got a year off because the NFL
didn't want them. Here's the thing, though, that leaves an
NFL job that I thought would get filled by him.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
It leaves it open.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
The question is will one of these guys from the
lower ranks be coming to fill that spot?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Would it be a good idea. We'll get to that next.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
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Speaker 4 (16:58):
I walk in, He's like, what do you do here?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
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Speaker 4 (17:00):
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Speaker 3 (17:25):
And ultimatum, there was several stories, you know, kind of
petered down a little bit now, but the Dion and
Shador Sanders a packaged deal in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Remember that it was about four weeks ago. People were
really having this conversation like do they take over the cowboys?
Like how does this go?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I think Shador Sanders he to me and he actually
I heard him say this too, but I thought it
prior to him say He reminds me a little bit
of Joe Burrow in the way that he throws the
ball in his accurate like he doesn't necessarily have the
big rocket that Josh Allen has, but plenty accurate athletic enough.
But he's kind of similar in that vein a guy
who's really good quarterback and seems to have a mental
side of the game that takes his game to a
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higher level when you especially consider how many times he's
gotten hit over his college career, so on and so forth.
But that deon Sanders as the head coach of the
NFL thing is the bigger problem that I would have
if this kind of ultimatum where to happen, or you know,
because Dion has been linked to almost all these jobs,
especially the Cowboys. I think the things that make Dion
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Sanders a great college football coach aren't relevant in the
NFL at all, Like very much, the same things that
made Bill Belichick a great NFL coach in terms of
schematics will matter in the NFL. But what makes great
college football coach is this cult of personality being bigger
than the room, walking in the room and owning everything
to where a parent feels.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Good about sending it. You know, I'm going to send
my kid there. I want to.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I want This is why I want to put my
kid under right, the stead. I want to watch over
my child. That's not in the NFL. No, it's not
that the magnetism that comes on.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I want to go to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I want to be a part of that movement that's
not happening in the NFL. So some of the things
that make Dane Sandras such a great college football coach,
I think are rendered irrelevant.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
In the NFL.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, Dion has stated many times, and of course people
have the right to change their mind. He's not interested
in going to the NFL. He's interested in going to
homes sitting on couches telling parents, give me your child,
I'll give you back a man. His message works for
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young men trying to figure it out. A lot of
them don't have like Jimmy Horn right, like his father's
in prison.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
So Dion has been a surrogate father. He's been a
surrogate father to Travis Hunter, like, that's where that works.
There are no surrogate fathers in the NFL. They're grown
men who are fathers. And so Dion's superpower is being
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able to see through the facade of how you grew
up right, the vacade of the facade of your background
and who you believe you have to be to protect
yourselves from the traumas you've experienced. There's no better motivator
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of young men. But he's gonna keep it real with you.
That's the difference.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Right.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Most kids see adults and coaches as a parental figure
in terms of don't do that, don't do that, you
have to do this, you have to do that. Well,
Dion speaks to them on their level. Right, Dion is cool.
I remember Dion had a rap song. Right Dion performed
on late night television. Right that rap song.
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Speaker 4 (21:21):
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Speaker 6 (21:23):
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Speaker 4 (21:26):
Excellent, doing well. Just get this money, baby.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I was doing better before I gave out over forty
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Speaker 4 (21:37):
So I'm off. I'm starting the week off hot.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Yeah, that was that. That was incredible. We didn't have
anybody bet that year in the in the properties here,
but yeah we had some people better on the retail.
That was surprising.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yes, very surprising to everybody but me.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I guess we all know that the guy normally sits
in this seat, Rob Parker is there as an a
Chiefs hater, but he is right about one thing. They
don't cover. They're always seven against the spread the last
seven games. With that in mind, Lamar, what's brown plus
four looking like?
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Start? Money's all on Browns. I mean, it's funny because
we open it at six and it's all the way
down a four, so you can see the Sharks just
been pounding that number. Plus six plus five plus five
and a half. Now we're up four. Joey Public is
all on the Chiefs, though they're in favor of this
about three to one, as far as ticket count and
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as far as money, they're all on the Chiefs Classic
Josburgh the Pros game.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Speaking of Joe's and that's an excellent segue. Joe Burrow
and Jamar Chase lead the NFL in most every major
passing category entering week fifteen. This week, they're in Tennessee
to take on the Titans in their bottom five scoring defense.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Where are the Sharps on this one? Give me some good?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Definitely, the shots are definitely on the Bengals here in
this situation.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
This is gonna be.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Joe Public and the Sharks on the same side. Here.
Public is on this game Bengals about eight to one,
and money is about four to one in favor of
the Bengals here. And like I say, the Sharps, they've
laid this number once we open it up and now
we're at solid five.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So we just talked about the Chiefs not covering in
seven straight games. That's the same stretch that Buffalo has
scored thirty or more points seventh straight, second longest streak
in the history of the NFL. But Lions have also
scored over forty points on four different occasions. And the
thing is, once they get a lead, They're like, how
much can we score? There's no level of let's hit
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the brakes for the Lions. How much action are you
seeing on the total forty five and a half in
this game?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
On this game here the fifty four.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
And a half, Yeah, the Lions and the Bills.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Yeah, yeah, we're seeing a lot of money on this
going bettiness over. I mean, we got it as high
as fifty five and a half. They bet it down,
but initially fifty three, fifty three and a half, fifty four,
and now we're sitting solid at fifty four and a half.
Public is definitely on this about three to one, and
tickets and money is about twenty five to one on
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favor of the over. It's a solid betting on the over.
And this might be one of those games where you
wouldn't expect no touchdowns scored. I don't think we'll have
that same situation here.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
The past eight road favorites of fourteen plus points are
one and seven against his bread without with three outright losses. Right,
I know that, So I know for a fact the
Sharps know that. So how much action are you seeing
against the Giants at sixteen sixteen point home underdogs against Baltimore.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
About as much action as you would see as a
one legged man in a butt chicken contract.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah, that's a big number. That's a huge number. It's
just too much.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
The shots have been all on the Ravens here fourteen
fourteen and a half, fifteen fifteen and a half. Although
the public is a small favorite on the Giants at
two to one as far as tickets, but money, it's
not even close. It's twenty seven to one in favor
of the Ravens. So it's definitely shots on this game here.
Money's coming in on the Ravens too, so we were
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not seeing much action on the Giants.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Unfortunately, got twenty seven to one. Lord have mercy.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Now, the team the Giants played last week, the Saints.
They did cover the five there, and probably if they
had made that field goal at the last second, would
have not covered, would have lost my touchdown and overtime.
But entering week fifteen, the Saints owens six outright and
against the spread verse teams with winning records. Now the
Saints are starting Jake Hayner Lamar. I don't know how
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much time you spend on social media, but he's got
more model pictures than he does completions throwing in the NFL.
Now that they're down to him, I have to imagine
that both the Pros and the Joe's are heavy on
Commander seven and a half.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
Yeah, it's not even close. I mean the Joe's. It
looks like it's about five to one in favor of
the Commanders. As far as tickets money in this situation
is about thirty to one in favor of the Commanders.
And even though the numbers are solid seven seven and
a half, it's been the Sharps of late that number
up to seven and a half. So yeah, not a
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lot of action and believers in Jay Caner from Presno State,
So what's you?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
What happens? There's a game that's really intriguing to me.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
It's the Colts in the Broncos game, and not only
does it have huge wildcard implications, but Indy actually has
the second easiest remaining schedule of any of the NFL teams.
So my question to you is we're the Sharps on
this one. It looks like the spread is currently what
for and Denver in four and a half?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Are four?
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah? Denver currently at four and when we open this number.
We open at three and a half, they laid the
three and a half, they laid the four, got it
as hired a four and a half and now it's
back down to four. So the shots have been all
over this on Denver in this situation until we got
the number two high at four and a half, where
they took back the Colts at four and a half.
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But the Joe's fourteen to one in favor of the Broncos.
They're not giving Anthony Richardson any respect in this situation here,
and money's about five to one in favor of the
Broncos here, so we'll see what happens to Like I say,
I mean, the shops have been on the Broncos, and
the Joe's are on the Broncos as well too.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So listeners of the odd couple of more will know
that during the Wife's Advice on Thursdays at eight o'clock,
if Mike Tomlin is an underdog anywhere between like plus
two and a half to plus six, I'm going to
just go ahead and take it. Don't ask me questions.
You can just bet on that like you can bet
on the sun coming up. So when I see the Steelers,
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who have won seven straight as underdogs, right, second best
market fifty years, five point underdogs to Philly, Philly, who
has had the.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Drama of all the passing game.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Well, I don't know if he said that for real,
Brandon Graham going on radio and everybody being like, well,
Braandon Graham doesn't know what he's talking about. Meanwhile, all
Pittsburgh is doing is just chugging along, minding their business.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Plus five and a half. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
How much action are you seeing on my side, the
Pittsburgh side of this bet.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
That's why it's too easy. It looks too easy, right, Tomlin,
you know exactly what you said. Great, the Joe's are
definitely on the Steelers at three to one, but the
shots are on the Eagles. Here they laid to four
and a half, up to five, up to five and
a half right now, because it looks too easy with
all the drama Phillies got. This is one of those
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bounce back games that the shots believe. But the public
is all on the Steelers. Money's about two to one
a favorite Steelers, and tickets are about three to one
a favorite Steelers.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
All right, we got one more for you.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
The Seahawks hosting the Packers, Green Bay and Josh Jacobs.
The Rebirth of Josh Jacobs has seven rushing touchdowns over
the past three games, which is great Seattle and their
twenty six ranked rushing defense. I'm assuming the Pros and
the Joe's are taking Green Bay at two and a half.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
This is a split split fifty fifty. They've the Joe's
are fifty to fifty of these tickets here. As far
as money, it's fifty fifty exactly, and the Sharks have bet.
They've laid the two and a half and they've taken
the plus three, and right now we're at two and
a half. So it's this is one of those toss
up games. Classic toss up game though.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Appreciate it, Lamar. It's also I don't have no idea
what to do with this game.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
All I know is that watching Josh Jacobs have three
rushing touchdowns makes me feel like they don't trust Jordan
Love to throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Oh Jordan, it's too much.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
All right, there he is the Lamar Mitchell bet MGM,
Director of Trading. Thanks for coming on the show, Lamar,
appreciate you enjoying the Have a good rest, of your weekend.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Thanks telling you guys have a good weekend.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
That's sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Coming up next will use some of that information that
Lamar Mitchell, just Davis. Martin Weiss need from Salam in
the NFL Pigskin pickoff. I tell you this, we will
pick better than Rob Parker normally picks.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
That's a promise. That's a team coming up next.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
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go straight into this.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
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you rich gambling corruption picks their pigskin pickoff.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
That's right, it is the NFL pickskin pickoff. Martin he
from picking NFL games against the spread?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Who am I representing?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
You're representing yourself, man, because they already made their picks yesterday.
Oh and shout out to Lamar Mitchell bet MGM gave
us the odds early. So you guys don't have to
worry about the adjusted lines and where the money is
moving and all that kind of stuff. You're getting the
lines a day after, twenty four hours after they've posted
stayale lines. So this should be easier for you theoretically
because the lines have all moved since then.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
If they moved in the right way, well, let's see.
So let's get to it.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
A game number one Bengals five point road favorites in
tendency to take on the Titans both Robin Kelvin got
Cincinnati in his spotty from who do you Like?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
And Why.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
I'm gonna take Cincinnati as well. I like their sense
of urgency that they have. Joe Burrow's playing lights out.
He would be in the MVP conversation, but their slow
start has hampered them and has them on the verge
(32:15):
of not even making the playoffs. So I'm taking Cincy.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I'll go with Tennessee here. Will Levis is terrible, so
is Cincinnati's defense. I think that cancels out. Tennessee scores
about fourteen points, but Cincinnati only scored twenty seven on
a bad Cowboys defense, and that was really twenty when
a bad Bess tackle and Jamar Chase is excellent.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I think Tennessee keeps a close Cincinnati wins in the end.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
A night lone ranger on that one game number two,
the one we were just talking about, Guys, Baltimore Ravens
sixteen point road favorites in New York to take on
the Giants.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
That is a ginormous number. Martin, Who do you like
and why so? I don't like it, but I'm going
to take the Giants here. Now.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I could give you all types of football reasons, like
the Ravens have let the Cowboys come back into the game,
they lost to the Browns, they lost to the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
The Giants are worth than all of those teams.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I just see somehow that seventeen and seventeen points to
lose in an NFL game is a ton of points.
I see the Ravens winning this by a solid two touchdowns,
not two touchdows on a field goal.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
I'm taking the Ravens. I think the Giants are one
of the NFC teams that has beaten Lamar. To Daniels,
I think he's like fifty and two against the NFC.
Daniel Jones came back and they scored a couple times
late in that game. I think this is Lamar's restamping
himself as the league MVP.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
And I think they win forty two to nine.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Interestingly enough, Doddka has also split Robs on the Ravens,
Calvin's on the Giants at Socker.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Which one of you guys are right?
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Game number three, big skin pick off NFL games against
the spread, Steelers at the Eagles. Eagles five and a
half point home favorites. The ut up will split on
this one. Rob's got the Eagles, Calvin's got Steelers. Ephram
has I got the Steelers. I got the Steelers. I
love the momentum they're having. They can win ugly, they
can win pretty Uh. Not having pickings there is going
to hurt. But I love Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
I love him against the spread, and I just love
the energy that Russell's brought. I love the sense of
camaraderie and team that they have. Russell Wilson looks like
he's having fun playing football again, and I think that
makes all the difference.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Russell Wilson is having fun playing football again. Conversely, it
looks like the Philadelphia Eagles are the only team in
football that winning is not fun. Winning seems winning seems
past ball for the Eagles, and I think you get
you may not get the better quarterback in this matchup,
but I think Mike Tomlin does laps around Nick Sirianni
as a coach, that is, as a leader of men.
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I think that comes out on Sunday enough for him
to cover the five.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
All right, Game number four, This is the marquee one.
Bill's ad Lions Wien is two and a half.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Point home favorites. No surprise.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Calvi's got the Lions, Rob's got the Bills, Martin has
the Lions.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'm assuming I do have the Liones. I have the Lions.
I think the Bills dropped two in a row. I
also think that when you look at this Buffalo team,
they are I mean to say, they're Josh Allen dependent.
Has been the story of the last few years, but
now they are ultimately supremely Josh Allen dependent. He's playing
some of the best football we've ever seen out of him.
But I just think the Lions are a more complete team,
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and the injury report is getting shorter and shorter and shorter.
They get some defensive lineman back, that's gonna be huge,
and that's gonna be the difference in the game.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Well, I.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Thought I knew which way I wanted to go, but
then then you heard me, and I told you, if
you got.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Some prep, you would had a good idea.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
No, I know, I know what I want to do, Okay,
so I don't need prep, all right, I have my mind.
All right, I'm a mind guy, and I'm taking Buffalo.
And I'm taking Buffalo for the reason of Campbell. If
you're going to treat every possession, every drive like it's
four down territory, it is going to come back and
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bite you. If you do what you did last game
and give the ball up on your thirty yard line
and give up seven points.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
You're not going to be able to recover from that.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Martin reminded me that the Detroit Lions are decimated on
the defensive side of the ball. When you're playing a
player like Josh Allen, they get coming back the receiver.
I believe, I think he's healthy. He's back, and so
I'm inside no weather elements, Josh Allen being able to
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get outside of the pocket and use his feet. You
don't have your customary defensive stalwarts in there. I'm taking
Buffalo mind power by a thousand.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
That's right. Last game of the pig skin pickoff might be.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
The game of the week sneakly, not because it's going
to be good gamers, because good teams, but because this
one might be a legitimate playoff eliminator. Both these teams
fighting for a wildcard spot in the AFC. Colts at
the Broncos Broncos four point zero favorites. Even from you
going with the hometown Denver Broncos or what.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I am going with the Broncos. I'm going with the Broncos.
I think I trust Sean Payton, I trust Bo Nicks
more than I I look. I know how these games go, right,
These games are are intense, But the Broncos at home
in December. Their records, their record speaks for itself. Even
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when they don't have a good team. It's tough to
go up there and play out in the elements in
the altitude in December.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
I'm taking the Broncos. Taking the Broncos as well.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I think Gus Bradley's defense leaves much to be desired.
And when you have a meeting of the minds versus
Gus Bradley's defense in Sean Payton's offense, I'm taking Sean
Payton's offense every shingle time, even with the rookie quarterback.
But uh, when looking at the bow, Anthony Richard Man
as well be a rookie. When I look at what
the way bow next plays, that's.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
The BA skin pickoff.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
So there you have it. Who do you think should
be the offensive rookie of the year. Bowers are Knicks.
I think that's the Owers is crazy? Owers ours is crazy,
isn't he nuts? Jason Harmon, I'm Jason Smith and his
best friend Mike Harmon up next.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
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So if you had told me Ephraim, and you're somebody
who writes Hollywood stories for a living, if you had
told me six months ago that the Belichick story would
include a chapter coaching at North Carolina, I'd be like,
he from Salam couldn't sell that?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
What are we talking about? That guy?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
He from Salaam couldn't sell that. There's no way seventy
two year old coach. Oh, let me get back to school. Huh,
how creative? You know how I would have done it?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
How?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
So we all know it's a big hollabaloo about how
young Bill Belichick's new girlfriend is. Right, So, Bill Belichick,
being his age, feels insecure about his girlfriend getting her
master's degree at North Carolina. So not to feel like
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he's being overbearing, he decides to take a job there
to might keep an eye on her, because you know,
he knows her being around co Ed's her age and
things like that, he knows.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
What college is. That's how I would have wrote it, right.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
So now you have your boyfriend, who it could be
your grandpa, as the coach at the school you attend
to get your master's degree, and that dynamic and all
the things that ensue, and the starting quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Falls in love with.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Her, and now coach and that quarterback, and now do
you bench it like that's as a writer?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Okay, right?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You see how I put this pin on it right there? Well,
So while it may not be that, while I am
not banking that that's the only way though, love triangles
between Bill Belichick and the North Carolina and all that
and I'm not sure about the status of his twenty
four year old girlfriends secondary education.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I don't know if she's not a master's or what.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But I do know this, this is gonna have a
Hollywood ending, this North Carolina story.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Look at the landscape of college football.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Just three short years ago, Colorado football was one.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And eleven off of what you know, winning. I think
we're one of the won.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Four games total in like three years or something crazy
like that. Deon Sanders comes in, he brings his Louie
luggage with him. Year two, they are a game away
from the playoffs, right, a win away from the playoffs,
and they're probably gonna have the Heisman Trophy winner on
Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah. Indiana football.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Indiana football is one of the twelve teams playing for
a college football national championship right now. Indiana, if I
told you that twenty four months ago, you'd said there's
no way. But with Kurt Chicknetti coming, and he also
he didn't necessarily advertise it as such, but brought his
luckuage with him with the transport portal. I believe the
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twenty kids transferred to Indiana eleven start eleven starters. Yeah,
so why can't Belichick also bring his luggage with him.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
To North Carolinas. He doesn't have any luggage. He's not
bringing players from another team where he's had ultimate success with. Okay,
He's coming in cold turkey, so to speak. He's coming
in trying to learn and understand the landscape that's already there.
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He's not bringing his own plants and grass and things
for the backyard, the landscaping.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Of it all.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
He's coming in like, huh, they put grass over here.
He's coming in cold, trying to learn how to do
this and build it out the way he wants it.
He doesn't have those players that he knows that he
can trust. And that's that. I was the thing. Dion
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knew his son and Travis, both of his sons and
Travis and some of the other guys they brought.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
He knew what they had to offer. Indiana coach, he
knew those guys with them.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
He knew right, so they made the transition for their
coaches easy because they can, in a sense, affect the
culture of the locker room.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Right. You bring your leaders in.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
When I had played for Denver and I left and
went to Jacksonville and Gary Kubiak who's our offensive coordinator
in Denver, left and got the head coaching job in Houston.
He called me and said, hey, man, I need you
to come help me teach this old line how we
do it to build a culture. That's what coaches do, right.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Belichick doesn't have any players to call and help transform
that locker room. He's turned from scratch. He's using Mac
Brown's guys.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
And so that's where I think it's a little bit
different than Indiana and Colorado in terms of they.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Brought their luggage. I get that, So I can go
with that.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
But if you've been Belichick and the reporting is, and
that's all we have to really go off of is
just trusting their reporting saying that he has He and
Matt Lombardi are Mike Lombardi and Josh McDaniels and whoever
else was in the Belichickian brain trust have all been
auditing these leagues, auditing the league, seeing what jobs would
be open, and then transitioning to college. So I hear
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you that they may not have, you know, the actual
physical players in hand. They don't have Shador and Travis
Hunter or the myriad of guys brought from JMU and
other places from christpher Signetty, But it feels to me
that there is a inefficiency at the top of college
football along the lines of guys like Burton the receiver
(07:04):
for Cincinnati who transferred from Georgia for Alabama to Georgia
right because they got young kids coming in. Or you
look at Ohio State starting Jeremiah Smith and Ryan william
Ryan Williams at Alabama freshmen coming in.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
There are juniors and seniors that are getting pushed out.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Of the door because of the new you know, the
new five star guy who's coming in, who's now making
more money than them and been promised more than them,
because it costs more to get a recruit in the
door these days. If I'm Belichick and I'm that brain trust,
I see, I mean, I would have to imagine that.
(07:41):
AU see that if you're evaluating the transfer portal and
you're now getting guys who have played a lot of
college like Arizona State had a lot of guys transfering
a year ago under Kenny Dillingham, but a lot of
those guys had played a ton of college football register
they were experienced already, and e meetly raised the floor
of the roster if I'm Belichick, I could tell a
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kid your a sixth round pick right now. If you
come here, I will can teach you how to be
a I can make you a third round pick or
a second round pick. And he's the guy who's been
doing the picking. That works, but that takes longer. That's
a three year process. People are saying, well, look at
North Carolina schedule this year, this is a ten to
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win team. You don't have the players for it to
be a ten year team.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
They don't know who you are as a coach and
what your expectations are, and you don't have anybody in
that locker room that knows that, and so you have
to unteach or these kids have to unlearn as the
younger or new players coming in have to learn. That's
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the difference, and that's why I think I think this
is a if he can hang in there. I think
in the third year, when he's had two full years
of recruiting, bringing in guys, really understanding what's out there
in the portal and establishing what the tar Hill Way
is now based off what he did in New England,
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I think then can he go find his young Tom Brady?
Can he do that sure, and change the trajectory of
the school and the culture of the locker room. It's
going to take a little bit of time, so I
say it will have a Hollywood ending.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I have thought this probably starts out with a seven
to five to five and seven year one, okay, then
year two we're looking at nine ten wins competing in
bigger games, right maybe like maybe you upset a Clemson,
maybe you upset of Miami down you know, on that run,
depending on what Miami is now.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Sean King just a minute ago alluded.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
To the fact that they bought a ten and two
rob after and was laughing as I said, who knows
that the contracts will.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Be like after the Pop Tart role? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So, but I do think it's something fascinating, and I
think that when you look at the landscape of college
football what it is right now, if you pluck the
right kids from the wrong situations, you could really, seems
to me, really jump start a program.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah, but you can't miss and that's the difference. You know,
you're not missing what guys you bring in, you know. Okay,
that's fair, Okay, so you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Your point is, you have you know, that you know
that your door Sanders is one of the best three quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
You know what, you know exact Travis Hunter is the
best player in college, like you know what you have now.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
In the case of Belichick, he's just.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Hoping and I hope goes a long way, but not
in sports. I hope it's a hell of a drug.
And so there's going to be a period of Oh,
that's not the guy I thought it was. Oh, this
doesn't work like this, like we thought this was. We
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like them, but we need There's going to be a
lot of puzzle pieces. Not to mention the kid they're
going to lose to the portal, new coaches.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Coming in, other guys going out right.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Some of those kids on scholarship sitting in that locker
room are like, Oh, I didn't sign.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Up for this. This is a real thing.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
And so how many kids do you lose and do
how do you replace them? How many starters are you losing.
It's a lot of things that we don't know the
outcome yet. We're just so captivated by this thing, the
belichickness of it all. Going to college, there's so many
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nuanced things that have to happen that I don't even
know if he's ready for yet?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
No, I mean and I would hope. So if you
sat off, you had it all that time.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, but if you to write a four hundred page manifesto,
how you're gonna go ahead and look.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
At this in two weeks? If he realizes forty guys
from the current team enter the portal, what do you do?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Like? It's like, oh snap, that's a reality. He may
not like.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Ego is important here, and one thing we know coach
Belichick has is an ego?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
All right?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
What does that do to your ego? Before you even
really get your hands on these guys, they're ready to
jump out the window.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
How do you deal with that? It's a lot, there's
a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
This is not the pros now, Like all those accolades
and Tom and the championship that has nothing to do
with college football.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Those are great stories. You can tell it.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
You remind me of Tom Brady, right, you remind me
of Richard Seymour, You remind me of Willie Guinness.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You can do all of that all day long, sure,
but those players are not those players. Just a word
of advice to North Carolina players. If Belichick tells you
who reminds you of Mac Jones hit the portal, Go
now the long last question, because this is You're right,
this is fascinating from so many different angles. But the
know one I'm thinking now is Belichick, more than probably
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any coach in college football, has more experience with dealing
with measuring out the money to players to be able
to you know, because you had a salary cap. Then
now there is an artificial cap at North Carolina, there's no.
I don't think Michael Jordan's is writing blank checks to
the football form to get whoever you want.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
He should. Phil Knight is for Oregon, they're number one
in the country.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But you see, like I think that those are not
necessarily long term sustainable, like how long it's feeling like
going to be well? What Phil Knight wants is a championship.
Get that They're about to get it. So what I'm
asking though, is if once you get the one, maybe
you get two, Maybe that money drives up. Does the
ability to manage a salary cap as opposed to just
having carte blanche and spending. Does the ability to manage
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a salary cap factor into his level of success on
the next on the.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
College No, because it's not a true salary cap. It's
not a true salary cap. You can bring in a
quarterback and you can pay them, I think what they're
up to eighteen million dollars that they have to use.
You can pay them two million of that and the
season doesn't go the way he likes it, and then
he leaves with his money. So it's not a true salary.
(14:40):
When you cut a player in the in the league,
you're only on the hook for guaranteed money.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Right.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
That's a lot of money to pay and to see
walk out the door in a year. There is no
two year, ten million dollar deal if you leave before
you got to get some of his back.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
See.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
The only thing that I would push back on is
it it felt that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
For some of his guys while he was in New England.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Belichick would have rather signed you will to a one
year deal every year. Yeah, and then to have the
conversation after games, you know, after whatever your own men. Yes,
you're now dealing with kids, but not only that, you're
dealing with their parents. My mom or my dad weren't
(15:30):
talking to my agent or to teams during free agency, right,
You're dealing with parents. You think Bill Belichick wants to
talk to your dad about what you're not doing on
the field and the money, and that that he doesn't want.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
To do that.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
That's another element and one of those nuances that we
were not quite sure of.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
So we've just spent the last seventeen minutes to beating
the nuances of going from the NFL to college, even
though chick I got a year off because the NFL
didn't want them. Here's the thing, though, that leaves an
NFL job that I thought would get filled by him.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
It leaves it open.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
The question is will one of these guys from the
lower ranks be coming to fill that spot?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Would it be a good idea. We'll get to that next.
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It's the way tied buying should be. So, speaking of that.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And ultimatum, there was several stories, you know, kind of
petered down a little bit now, but the Dion and
Shador Sanders a packaged deal in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Remember that it was about four weeks ago. People were
really having this conversation like do they take over the cowboys?
Like how does this go?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I think Shador Sanders he to me and he actually
I heard him say this too, but I thought it
prior to him say He reminds me a little bit
of Joe Burrow in the way that he throws the
ball in his accurate like he doesn't necessarily have the
big rocket that Josh Allen has, but plenty accurate athletic enough.
But he's kind of similar in that vein a guy
who's really good quarterback and seems to have a mental
side of the game that takes his game to a
(18:04):
higher level when you especially consider how many times he's
gotten hit over his college career, so on and so forth.
But that deon Sanders as the head coach of the
NFL thing is the bigger problem that I would have
if this kind of ultimatum where to happen, or you know,
because Dion has been linked to almost all these jobs,
especially the Cowboys. I think the things that make Dion
(18:24):
Sanders a great college football coach aren't relevant in the
NFL at all, Like very much, the same things that
made Bill Belichick a great NFL coach in terms of
schematics will matter in the NFL. But what makes great
college football coach is this cult of personality being bigger
than the room, walking in the room and owning everything
to where a parent feels.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Good about sending it. You know, I'm going to send
my kid there. I want to.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I want This is why I want to put my
kid under right, the stead. I want to watch over
my child. That's not in the NFL. No, it's not
that the magnetism that comes on.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I want to go to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I want to be a part of that movement that's
not happening in the NFL. So some of the things
that make Dane Sandras such a great college football coach,
I think are rendered irrelevant.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
In the NFL.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, Dion has stated many times, and of course people
have the right to change their mind. He's not interested
in going to the NFL. He's interested in going to
homes sitting on couches telling parents, give me your child,
I'll give you back a man. His message works for
(19:36):
young men trying to figure it out. A lot of
them don't have like Jimmy Horn right, like his father's
in prison.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
So Dion has been a surrogate father. He's been a
surrogate father to Travis Hunter, like, that's where that works.
There are no surrogate fathers in the NFL. They're grown
men who are fathers. And so Dion's superpower is being
(20:07):
able to see through the facade of how you grew
up right, the vacade of the facade of your background
and who you believe you have to be to protect
yourselves from the traumas you've experienced. There's no better motivator
(20:29):
of young men. But he's gonna keep it real with you.
That's the difference.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Right.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Most kids see adults and coaches as a parental figure
in terms of don't do that, don't do that, you
have to do this, you have to do that. Well,
Dion speaks to them on their level. Right, Dion is cool.
I remember Dion had a rap song. Right Dion performed
on late night television. Right that rap song.
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Speaker 4 (21:14):
Gets your money.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
That's right, It's time to talk about a little bit
of Money's go to bet MGM, Director of Trading Lamar
Mitchell Lamar, how are you, my friend?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Glad to have you on the show.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
Thank tell us them good good about you guys tonight.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Excellent, doing well. Just get this money, baby.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I was doing better before I gave out over forty
eight last night in Rams forty nine ers in the
first game all year no touchdown was scored.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
So I'm off. I'm starting the week off hot.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Yeah, that was that. That was incredible. We didn't have
anybody bet that year in the in the properties here,
but yeah we had some people better on the retail.
That was surprising.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yes, very surprising to everybody but me.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I guess we all know that the guy normally sits
in this seat, Rob Parker is there as an a
Chiefs hater, but he is right about one thing. They
don't cover. They're always seven against the spread the last
seven games. With that in mind, Lamar, what's brown plus
four looking like?
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Start? Money's all on Browns. I mean, it's funny because
we open it at six and it's all the way
down a four, so you can see the Sharks just
been pounding that number. Plus six plus five plus five
and a half. Now we're up four. Joey Public is
all on the Chiefs, though they're in favor of this
about three to one, as far as ticket count and
(22:35):
as far as money, they're all on the Chiefs Classic
Josburgh the Pros game.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Speaking of Joe's and that's an excellent segue. Joe Burrow
and Jamar Chase lead the NFL in most every major
passing category entering week fifteen. This week, they're in Tennessee
to take on the Titans in their bottom five scoring defense.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Where are the Sharps on this one? Give me some good?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Definitely, the shots are definitely on the Bengals here in
this situation.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
This is gonna be.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Joe Public and the Sharks on the same side. Here.
Public is on this game Bengals about eight to one,
and money is about four to one in favor of
the Bengals here. And like I say, the Sharps, they've
laid this number once we open it up and now
we're at solid five.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So we just talked about the Chiefs not covering in
seven straight games. That's the same stretch that Buffalo has
scored thirty or more points seventh straight, second longest streak
in the history of the NFL. But Lions have also
scored over forty points on four different occasions. And the
thing is, once they get a lead, They're like, how
much can we score? There's no level of let's hit
(23:44):
the brakes for the Lions. How much action are you
seeing on the total forty five and a half in
this game?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
On this game here the fifty four.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
And a half, Yeah, the Lions and the Bills.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Yeah, yeah, we're seeing a lot of money on this
going bettiness over. I mean, we got it as high
as fifty five and a half. They bet it down,
but initially fifty three, fifty three and a half, fifty four,
and now we're sitting solid at fifty four and a half.
Public is definitely on this about three to one, and
tickets and money is about twenty five to one on
(24:17):
favor of the over. It's a solid betting on the over.
And this might be one of those games where you
wouldn't expect no touchdowns scored. I don't think we'll have
that same situation here.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
The past eight road favorites of fourteen plus points are
one and seven against his bread without with three outright losses. Right,
I know that, So I know for a fact the
Sharps know that. So how much action are you seeing
against the Giants at sixteen sixteen point home underdogs against Baltimore.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
About as much action as you would see as a
one legged man in a butt chicken contract.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah, that's a big number. That's a huge number. It's
just too much.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
The shots have been all on the Ravens here fourteen
fourteen and a half, fifteen fifteen and a half. Although
the public is a small favorite on the Giants at
two to one as far as tickets, but money, it's
not even close. It's twenty seven to one in favor
of the Ravens. So it's definitely shots on this game here.
Money's coming in on the Ravens too, so we were
(25:21):
not seeing much action on the Giants.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Unfortunately, got twenty seven to one. Lord have mercy.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Now, the team the Giants played last week, the Saints.
They did cover the five there, and probably if they
had made that field goal at the last second, would
have not covered, would have lost my touchdown and overtime.
But entering week fifteen, the Saints owens six outright and
against the spread verse teams with winning records. Now the
Saints are starting Jake Hayner Lamar. I don't know how
(25:50):
much time you spend on social media, but he's got
more model pictures than he does completions throwing in the NFL.
Now that they're down to him, I have to imagine
that both the Pros and the Joe's are heavy on
Commander seven and a half.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
Yeah, it's not even close. I mean the Joe's. It
looks like it's about five to one in favor of
the Commanders. As far as tickets money in this situation
is about thirty to one in favor of the Commanders.
And even though the numbers are solid seven seven and
a half, it's been the Sharps of late that number
up to seven and a half. So yeah, not a
(26:24):
lot of action and believers in Jay Caner from Presno State,
So what's you?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
What happens? There's a game that's really intriguing to me.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
It's the Colts in the Broncos game, and not only
does it have huge wildcard implications, but Indy actually has
the second easiest remaining schedule of any of the NFL teams.
So my question to you is we're the Sharps on
this one. It looks like the spread is currently what
for and Denver in four and a half?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Are four?
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah? Denver currently at four and when we open this number.
We open at three and a half, they laid the
three and a half, they laid the four, got it
as hired a four and a half and now it's
back down to four. So the shots have been all
over this on Denver in this situation until we got
the number two high at four and a half, where
they took back the Colts at four and a half.
(27:14):
But the Joe's fourteen to one in favor of the Broncos.
They're not giving Anthony Richardson any respect in this situation here,
and money's about five to one in favor of the
Broncos here, so we'll see what happens to Like I say,
I mean, the shops have been on the Broncos, and
the Joe's are on the Broncos as well too.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So listeners of the odd couple of more will know
that during the Wife's Advice on Thursdays at eight o'clock,
if Mike Tomlin is an underdog anywhere between like plus
two and a half to plus six, I'm going to
just go ahead and take it. Don't ask me questions.
You can just bet on that like you can bet
on the sun coming up. So when I see the Steelers,
(27:51):
who have won seven straight as underdogs, right, second best
market fifty years, five point underdogs to Philly, Philly, who
has had the.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Drama of all the passing game.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Well, I don't know if he said that for real,
Brandon Graham going on radio and everybody being like, well,
Braandon Graham doesn't know what he's talking about. Meanwhile, all
Pittsburgh is doing is just chugging along, minding their business.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Plus five and a half. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
How much action are you seeing on my side, the
Pittsburgh side of this bet.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
That's why it's too easy. It looks too easy, right, Tomlin,
you know exactly what you said. Great, the Joe's are
definitely on the Steelers at three to one, but the
shots are on the Eagles. Here they laid to four
and a half, up to five, up to five and
a half right now, because it looks too easy with
all the drama Phillies got. This is one of those
(28:40):
bounce back games that the shots believe. But the public
is all on the Steelers. Money's about two to one
a favorite Steelers, and tickets are about three to one
a favorite Steelers.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
All right, we got one more for you.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
The Seahawks hosting the Packers, Green Bay and Josh Jacobs.
The Rebirth of Josh Jacobs has seven rushing touchdowns over
the past three games, which is great Seattle and their
twenty six ranked rushing defense. I'm assuming the Pros and
the Joe's are taking Green Bay at two and a half.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
This is a split split fifty fifty. They've the Joe's
are fifty to fifty of these tickets here. As far
as money, it's fifty fifty exactly, and the Sharks have bet.
They've laid the two and a half and they've taken
the plus three, and right now we're at two and
a half. So it's this is one of those toss
up games. Classic toss up game though.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Appreciate it, Lamar. It's also I don't have no idea
what to do with this game.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
All I know is that watching Josh Jacobs have three
rushing touchdowns makes me feel like they don't trust Jordan
Love to throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Oh Jordan, it's too much.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
All right, there he is the Lamar Mitchell bet MGM,
Director of Trading. Thanks for coming on the show, Lamar,
appreciate you enjoying the Have a good rest, of your weekend.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Thanks telling you guys have a good weekend.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
That's sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Coming up next will use some of that information that
Lamar Mitchell, just Davis. Martin Weiss need from Salam in
the NFL Pigskin pickoff. I tell you this, we will
pick better than Rob Parker normally picks.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
That's a promise. That's a team coming up next.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
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Washta to the yacht couple.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
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Kelvin Washington on this funky flashback Friday, Rober, we just
(30:56):
go straight into this.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You ready to retire? The odd couple is gonna make
you rich gambling corruption picks their pigskin pickoff.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
That's right, it is the NFL pickskin pickoff. Martin he
from picking NFL games against the spread?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Who am I representing?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
You're representing yourself, man, because they already made their picks yesterday.
Oh and shout out to Lamar Mitchell bet MGM gave
us the odds early. So you guys don't have to
worry about the adjusted lines and where the money is
moving and all that kind of stuff. You're getting the
lines a day after, twenty four hours after they've posted
stayale lines. So this should be easier for you theoretically
because the lines have all moved since then.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
If they moved in the right way, well, let's see.
So let's get to it.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
A game number one Bengals five point road favorites in
tendency to take on the Titans both Robin Kelvin got
Cincinnati in his spotty from who do you Like?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
And Why.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
I'm gonna take Cincinnati as well. I like their sense
of urgency that they have. Joe Burrow's playing lights out.
He would be in the MVP conversation, but their slow
start has hampered them and has them on the verge
(32:15):
of not even making the playoffs. So I'm taking Cincy.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I'll go with Tennessee here. Will Levis is terrible, so
is Cincinnati's defense. I think that cancels out. Tennessee scores
about fourteen points, but Cincinnati only scored twenty seven on
a bad Cowboys defense, and that was really twenty when
a bad Bess tackle and Jamar Chase is excellent.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I think Tennessee keeps a close Cincinnati wins in the end.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
A night lone ranger on that one game number two,
the one we were just talking about, Guys, Baltimore Ravens
sixteen point road favorites in New York to take on
the Giants.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
That is a ginormous number. Martin, Who do you like
and why so? I don't like it, but I'm going
to take the Giants here. Now.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I could give you all types of football reasons, like
the Ravens have let the Cowboys come back into the game,
they lost to the Browns, they lost to the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
The Giants are worth than all of those teams.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I just see somehow that seventeen and seventeen points to
lose in an NFL game is a ton of points.
I see the Ravens winning this by a solid two touchdowns,
not two touchdows on a field goal.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
I'm taking the Ravens. I think the Giants are one
of the NFC teams that has beaten Lamar. To Daniels,
I think he's like fifty and two against the NFC.
Daniel Jones came back and they scored a couple times
late in that game. I think this is Lamar's restamping
himself as the league MVP.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
And I think they win forty two to nine.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Interestingly enough, Doddka has also split Robs on the Ravens,
Calvin's on the Giants at Socker.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Which one of you guys are right?
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Game number three, big skin pick off NFL games against
the spread, Steelers at the Eagles. Eagles five and a
half point home favorites. The ut up will split on
this one. Rob's got the Eagles, Calvin's got Steelers. Ephram
has I got the Steelers. I got the Steelers. I
love the momentum they're having. They can win ugly, they
can win pretty Uh. Not having pickings there is going
to hurt. But I love Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
I love him against the spread, and I just love
the energy that Russell's brought. I love the sense of
camaraderie and team that they have. Russell Wilson looks like
he's having fun playing football again, and I think that
makes all the difference.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Russell Wilson is having fun playing football again. Conversely, it
looks like the Philadelphia Eagles are the only team in
football that winning is not fun. Winning seems winning seems
past ball for the Eagles, and I think you get
you may not get the better quarterback in this matchup,
but I think Mike Tomlin does laps around Nick Sirianni
as a coach, that is, as a leader of men.
(34:51):
I think that comes out on Sunday enough for him
to cover the five.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
All right, Game number four, This is the marquee one.
Bill's ad Lions Wien is two and a half.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Point home favorites. No surprise.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Calvi's got the Lions, Rob's got the Bills, Martin has
the Lions.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'm assuming I do have the Liones. I have the Lions.
I think the Bills dropped two in a row. I
also think that when you look at this Buffalo team,
they are I mean to say, they're Josh Allen dependent.
Has been the story of the last few years, but
now they are ultimately supremely Josh Allen dependent. He's playing
some of the best football we've ever seen out of him.
But I just think the Lions are a more complete team,
(35:29):
and the injury report is getting shorter and shorter and shorter.
They get some defensive lineman back, that's gonna be huge,
and that's gonna be the difference in the game.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Well, I.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Thought I knew which way I wanted to go, but
then then you heard me, and I told you, if
you got.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Some prep, you would had a good idea.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
No, I know, I know what I want to do, Okay,
so I don't need prep, all right, I have my mind.
All right, I'm a mind guy, and I'm taking Buffalo.
And I'm taking Buffalo for the reason of Campbell. If
you're going to treat every possession, every drive like it's
four down territory, it is going to come back and
(36:10):
bite you. If you do what you did last game
and give the ball up on your thirty yard line
and give up seven points.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
You're not going to be able to recover from that.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Martin reminded me that the Detroit Lions are decimated on
the defensive side of the ball. When you're playing a
player like Josh Allen, they get coming back the receiver.
I believe, I think he's healthy. He's back, and so
I'm inside no weather elements, Josh Allen being able to
(36:43):
get outside of the pocket and use his feet. You
don't have your customary defensive stalwarts in there. I'm taking
Buffalo mind power by a thousand.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
That's right. Last game of the pig skin pickoff might be.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
The game of the week sneakly, not because it's going
to be good gamers, because good teams, but because this
one might be a legitimate playoff eliminator. Both these teams
fighting for a wildcard spot in the AFC. Colts at
the Broncos Broncos four point zero favorites. Even from you
going with the hometown Denver Broncos or what.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I am going with the Broncos. I'm going with the Broncos.
I think I trust Sean Payton, I trust Bo Nicks
more than I I look. I know how these games go, right,
These games are are intense, But the Broncos at home
in December. Their records, their record speaks for itself. Even
(37:38):
when they don't have a good team. It's tough to
go up there and play out in the elements in
the altitude in December.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
I'm taking the Broncos. Taking the Broncos as well.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I think Gus Bradley's defense leaves much to be desired.
And when you have a meeting of the minds versus
Gus Bradley's defense in Sean Payton's offense, I'm taking Sean
Payton's offense every shingle time, even with the rookie quarterback.
But uh, when looking at the bow, Anthony Richard Man
as well be a rookie. When I look at what
the way bow next plays, that's.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
The BA skin pickoff.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
So there you have it. Who do you think should
be the offensive rookie of the year. Bowers are Knicks.
I think that's the Owers is crazy? Owers ours is crazy,
isn't he nuts? Jason Harmon, I'm Jason Smith and his
best friend Mike Harmon up next.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
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