December 13, 2024 • 38 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend hosts Martin Weiss and Ephraim Salaam are in for Rob and Kelvin, and the guys explain why NFL decision makers would be crazy not to let Travis Hunter play two-ways in the NFL and tell us it’s fair to expect Bill Belichick will make the College Football Playoff at some point during his tenure with North Carolina. Plus, former NFL quarterback and FOX Sports Radio NFL analyst Shaun King swing by to discuss his biggest issue with former San Francisco 49ers linebacker De’Vondre Campbell, what might prevent Hunter from winning the Heisman Trophy, why he’s so excited about this weekend’s Army-Navy game and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yep, I'm Martin. That's Ephrom. We're sitting in here for
Rob Parker.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's the way that tire buying should be, Ephrom.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I you know, I live with both Mike, my girlfriend,
and my sister. We live We all live in the
one house. What now, we all live in one house
Like I'm an adult obviously. My sister's just I just
want to just get this out. We all live together, right,
It's not as weird as you make it out.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
To be.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
I mean it sounds weird just on hearing it, But
go ahead. Why I live with my girlfriend and my sister.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, we all share home. Okay, it's not like we
all share a room. Is it not a studio? It's
her boyfriend in there too.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
No, But what if she gets a boyfriend and wants
to move in, we'll address it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Would that be weird? We need a bigger space if
that's the case, right, probably?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Would that be weird? Like you're with your girlfriend in
the other room and you got you see what I'm saying.
You know, I'm thirty five years old. You're right, you're
a growl man.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I get you.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
But here, So here's the deal. I walking to my
house often, no reason I even brought this song. I
walk into my house often, and it's some version of
Love is Blind, Love Island and Love This Island that whatever? Yeah, right,
I come to work to get away from this. Yes,
(02:08):
And I walk into the studio right here. Yeah, and
this guy's watching Love is Blind.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Real. That's not that they're all. They all.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
It's very much like you'll get the NBA and they
all different curture, different colors, was all the same sport,
all these shows.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They may be different, it's all the same.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's the ultimatum, the ultimatum. Oh uh, so what's on
the ultimatum? Because I'll be walking in I'm sure it'll
be on in my living room.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
It's when couples have been together for a long time,
one wants to get married and settle down and the
other one does not, And so the one that does
want to settle down issues and ultimatum, either we get married,
get engaged, are we no longer see each other? And
(02:50):
what they do is they get several couples, they break
them up on the show, let them mingle with others,
and then you couple up with others.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I was about to say, let me join the show
if in fact, you don't want to marry the one.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
At the end of it, you get to pick whether
you'll be with the person you came with, and you
guys will take that next step.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Are you know? Has there ever been somebody who wanted
to there and then decided didn't want to get married
Moore and with somebody else.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
That's messy, and that's why it's good.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
There's no show otherwise, right, Why does that have a
few of those? Hell, a few that work and a
few that don't.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You Just imagine you propose the ultimatum and you're like, actually,
I don't want it anymore.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Like you know what, thank you for this. You've opened
my eyes to something I actually want. This person is committed,
she has her stuff together, she's ready to go.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We get along. We have a lot in common. We're
dating now.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
But these are the things that I come to work
to avoid.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And I you got a professional. You have to tap
into your six ' five. Just all merscle, Wow, that's
just sixty seven. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Six eight, all six eight, All four were offensive tackle
of them right, used to move row men for a living.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And he's sitting here watching The freaking Ultimate or whatever.
I know where I'm from, huh, Because we all make choices.
We all make choices, right.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Look, one thing I always say about me, I'm well rounded.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay. I like poetry, I like rap, I like sports.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I like rom coms, I mean, like this song, like
reality TV, but I like comedy sitcom.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
The last thing I'll do in this because I know
everybody's riving around who cares.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
No nobody they're they care because they're listening and they
either are on the awkward side of the fence you're on,
or the regular side of the fence I'm on.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Well, just it's fascinating what radio hosts decide to do
in the commercial break, right because you have to talk
for like anywhere from twenty anywhere from ten to twenty
minut straight damn near.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's why you take a little break, you know. So
is it like, how do you do?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You go to the bathroom Like I've been eating dinner
essentially for the last four comea.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
You leave the room and you scarf down whatever you're
scarfing down, listen, And I'm sitting in here with my
feet up. I had to look clearing my clearing my
mental palate. So is that what it is?
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Right?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I cleanse my mental palette. It's like the like when
you're tasting wine. Yeah, you gotta clear you gotta clean palate. Man,
I'm in here cleaning my mental palate. I'm gonna use
that of you from You're welcome, You're welcome. I like that,
you know a little Look how long you've been doing this?
Mark how long you been doing it?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It was five years or so. I've been doing this
since nineteen ninety eight. I was in the third grade nights.
So I've been in broadcast since nineteen ninety eight. That's
very Rob Parker of you to say something like no,
but it's true though clever delibriations like the eighty seven.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
But the other The only difference is I was also
an athlete, So I've been on both ends of the spectrum.
Or while I was playing, I was on TV and
I was on radio.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So when you were playing again, did you used to
between meetings?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
No?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
No, no, no no, because I but I was learning
the draft is blind like I was learning the craft.
Like that's why I can come in here. Rob, you
can call me and it's happened before, Scott.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Rob.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
You guys can call me and be like, someone's not here.
Can you be in ten minutes and I can come in.
Rob already knows I don't look at the rundowns, he
sends out in the email. That's respectful. Have I ever
missed a step? Have I ever seemed like I don't
know what's.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Going on now? And then you tell me about it afterwards?
It makes me more upset.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
But that's but we reps this show today. We did
not even once mention Ephim's name one time. He was
going to be ready at all, not one time.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
But that's right early on when I was doing this,
when I was learning the business, right, I learned how
to do all those things. So now on the break,
I'm like, oh, how wet me? No, I'm just gonna
put my feet up, cleanse my mental palate, and then
we're gonna rock and roll.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Okay, I just gave you. I just put you up
on game.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Right Like in ten fifteen years, you're gonna be in
here looking at all kinds of right.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Who knows I'm.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
On whatever it is that well, you know what, I'll
probably be doing well at that point, I'll probably be
watching it, okay, for I'll all go back for.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Starts, all going back. I'll go back for I got
bunny ears. Now I'm gonna be paneloged.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Mike Cable on my laptop to try to watch it. All.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Right, Look, so coming up next, listen, the NFL says
you can't do this, but this kid has been told
it his whole life.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Will he listen?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Martin wiss E from Salam coming up next to the
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(08:26):
from the tirec dot Com studios on the Odd Couple,
filling in for Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington on this
funky flashback Friday, Ephraim, Let's go ahead and flash it
all the way back to you.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You alluded to this earlier in the show.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Back to the days of leather helmets, Back to the
days the guys playing football on their lunch break from
the factory. Because that's the last time we saw guys
going both ways in the NFL consistently.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
We may see it next season, I hope.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
So. Travis Hunter spoke to the Pivot podcast about the
possibility of that occurring next year.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Where people want to get you into the building, and
they're gonna ask what if we only wanted you to
play one position? What would be and I don't care
what position it is. What would be your answer to that, Travis?
We want to draft you, we want to draft you
number one overall, but we don't feel it's fair to
you to make you play both sides of the football.
(09:24):
What would you tell that general manager.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Called coach Bryan, That's what I say.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Call coach fran He'll let you know the answer. They
know how I feel. I want to play both sides,
and nothing's gonna change my mind. You can tell me
all day now you can't play both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I'm gonna keep telling you guess I can. That's what
I want to do.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
And you have not seen me not play both sides
of the ball since you've been watching me, So why
not do it now?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I was thinking about it that Ephraim, because probably at
every level that he's been at, from middle school to
high school, from high school to Jackson State, from Jackson
State to Colorado now has coached the difference between Jackson
and Colorado. He wasn't saying that you couldn't do it.
But you know, the media at large say you can't
do it. And now from Colorado to the NFL, everyone
(10:11):
has told him he's gonna have to pick a side. Yes,
everyone that probably has told him that, except for Deon Sanders,
and that's why he went there.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
He was committed to Florida State, Remember, yes, and Florida State.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Ryan Clark asked him later row On, he said Florida
State was not gonna allow him to do that. If now,
I personally don't think it's a great idea to play
one hundred snaps of any football m heightst college or
professional football. But if you're the NFL team that drafts
this kid who has been told that every step of
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the way you have to pick. Are you really gonna
tell him he's got a pick, or you're gonna let
him figure out which one is gonna be it?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Or do you just let him play both sides?
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I think I think the conversation is where do you
see yourself as a primary player? What position is your
primary position? Do you feel you're a better cornerback then
you are a receiver? And based on that answer, if
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he says, look I'm a shutdown corner, I'm a lockdown corner.
That's where I feel more. That's natural, right, I'm a
man to man corner. I don't need to be in
the defensive huddle. Put me on their guy. I'll follow him,
that's me. I'llah dion sure.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Then you say okay, then it's your job to find
places to put him offensively. So if you have an
offensive series where there's a ten twelve play drive and
you allow him to come in in three four of
those plays, right now, he's playing both ways. If you
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put together a special package for him, if they say
say something like okay, if you guys go out there
and get a three and out, you get to play
the next offensive series.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
But if like in game incentive, But what happens is
you know that you're minimizing his exposure to injury. So
if you go out there and beginning the game, you
stop a team, they get the ball first, it's three plays,
you're off the field, get some water, you come out
for the offensive series.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Right, If you go.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Twelve plays offensively, then you're not going to play the
next defensive series. I will say what the difference between
a receiver and a cornerback is. Most cornerbacks don't come
off the field on defense. Right, receivers rotating in and
out right, So if you're primarily a cornerback, then you're
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going to play all of the defensive snaps. Receivers don't
play all the offensive snaps exactly. There's a place for
some leeway there. Also, they can make them a nickel cornerback. See,
that was my thought.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
If you really want to play both ways, then be
our third corner and our third receiver.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
So when we come out, well, he's too good to
be a third on both. But but you know, most teams,
if you could be our two, number one or two
receiver in our third cornerback, or you could be our
number one cornerback or a third or.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Fourth you know, but most guys, most teams are fundamentally
most teams are running like three receiver sets, that type
of thing. I'm thinking like when you're if you have
I just think it like this. I think he's probably
gonna play a corner more more, it's harder to find.
In my opinion, it is a good cornerback a lot
a top of the market corner very different.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It is the top of the market wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Right, you can you can duplicate some production you can put,
you can piece production together. I mean, look at Tampa,
it's not like they've fallen they haven't fallen off a bridge.
Since Mike Evans and Chris Godwin got hurt, they were
able to piece it together a little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Now, Mike Evans is it's a little lot harder to
do that at the cornerback position. Yeah, that's a specialty position.
It's like left tackleing.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
But I think if you're a team like the Jaguars
or the Patriots or one of these teams that is
floating around that area that could draft in the Panthers, whatever,
You're gonna look at your third receiver and be like, Okay, well,
Travis Hunter is better than this guy.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I can't just keep him on the bench, right, and
then he's gonna want to play.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
He went on to say in that interview, he said,
I get bored when I'm sitting on the sidelines. Now,
I think some of that, maybe the word choice is
a little lack of better term immature, but I think
there's something to the idea that it helps him stay
engaged in the entirety of the game, knowing he can
impact both sides of the ball, impacting both sides of
the ball.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, and look, being bored on the sideline's that's different
in the pros because every series you're in and you're out,
you're going over everything, right, you got the tablet, you're
going over. So you won't just be sitting there and
look into the student section like is she in my
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algebra class? Trigonometry? Right, You'll be engaged in what's going
on defensive wise, in the game plan. Right after that,
you get some water, you make adjustments, then you come coach.
I'm ready to go in offensively if the offense is
still out there and you go out there, all right,
we're going you know, three wides, Travis go right. But
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I don't think any team will be like, look, you
can't do that because you want to take advantage of
your talent. Now, you don't want to burn him out.
And having played one hundred games, one hundred plays a game,
that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think so too.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
And so it's one of those situations where what how
can we maximize and use his abilities in our favor? Right,
not just what he wants, but in our favor.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah. See the way I say it is because you
have so many teams.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Now are running at eleven where it's just one tight end,
one running back, and there's three receivers out there already. Like,
you're not telling me that Travis, like for example, Atlanta
runs out of ton. You're not telling me that Travis
Hunters not better than like Ray Ray McLeod.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Like, I'm like, he's gonna get some of those snaps.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
So I see it being like a where he's not
a rotational wide receiver, but he's not gonna To me,
he shouldn't be your number one offensive target, but out
there more often that red zone package is third down,
that type of situation used in moments and deployed in
moments like that.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And I think if he's done.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Like that, then I think that I don't see the
big problem with that.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I think he's such a tremendous talent. They'll find the
right amount of usage for him. Now if he get
nicked up, if he's nicked up or something like that,
I have to make a decision. You get, we're not
about to play these games. We're not gonna play these games, right.
We're gonna focus on getting you back healthy, and we're
gonna focus on your primary position.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
That's why.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I think it's important to establish that what that is
offense or defense.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I think somebody else the way that this kid talks,
somebody might have to make that decision for because he's
gonna be I don't know what.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Well, you you know what wisdom is or wasted on
the young or something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I think that's the same. Well my mama used to say,
it's got to be the wisdom is, energy is wasted
on it. Something is wasted. He's wasted on you, something
youth is wasted on them. They just don't either way.
And then you know, to.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
The point, the kid is like twenty one years old
right now, he's making a bunch of money, he's doing
something he loves. He probably feels a lot better on
Sunday after the game than he will at twenty eight
years old.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
After you know, yeah, five, you can run through walls, man,
when you're that young. But once you get older, once
you get five six years in the league, you don't
recover for Wednesday practice anymore. It's right around Friday where
you're like, man, folk, I feel like I can play.
And then year ten, it's like Saturday night, you like, okay,
(17:57):
I think I can get out there and play now
anything past ten is they just it's just gonna stack
on top of each other.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You never truly feel like you're ready to play. Okay,
So how's the feasibility of it work though?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Because I think that if because okay, if you're a
man a man corner, right, you don't necessarily you should
be at all the meetings, right, it just as a
blank of statement. But if you're just one of those
guys who is gonna you know, you're gonna take the
best receiver on the team guard him every single snap,
then you're just following him around everywhere he goes.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Maybe you can miss a couple of meetings here and there.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
As everybody else is figuring out what they're gonna do
because you're playing lock one on one. But how like
it's it's reported now that he doesn't practice much, which
makes a ton of sense because he plays double the
amount of snaps. How much is that gonna be able
to translate into the NFL though, where you imagine I
imagine he's gonna have to practice a little bit more than.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
He is in college, of course, because it's you know,
he's been with shoulder for a long time. It's been
with that defense for a long like they know each other.
The chemistry is there, so you're going to have to
put the practice reps in to build that chemistry.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's that's what's important.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
And once that happens, if they can keep the same
offensive coordinator together, same quarterback, and you build that relationship
in that chemistry, then you don't need the wear and
tear of practice like that. Defensively, on the other side
of the ball, you're making defensive adjustments, what type of
game plan, what type of defense you're plane depending on
who you're playing, is it man, is its zone? Is
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the combination? There is a little bit more a nuance
on that side based on being an individual player like
a corner. So you know, how do you split those
that time in meetings because you're going to it's install
on Wednesday. Sure, you put the defensive game plan in,
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you put the offensive game plan in.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
And I imagine that probably has a little bit of
overlap in terms of scheduling there at the same time
twenty four hours.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Well, you have a team you come in, you have
a special teams meeting, then you have a team meet,
and then you break up into offense and defensive meetings,
then you break up into your position meetings, then you
go out to practice, then you come back in in
your position meetings and watch what you did in practice.
So it's one of those situations where you can't be
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at two places at one time.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well, you can't be in two places at one time,
but you may be able to play both sides of
the ball in one game. Well that's Sean King about that.
In just a moment. I know he'll have some picksforts
try to win some money.
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Speaker 4 (20:43):
This guy's a regular guest on The Couple, Sean King,
former NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Sean, thanks for joining the show, my friend.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
How you doing man, A right man, excellent man. Thanks
for having me. Man y'all doing on this wonderful Friday.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
We're good man, good night, here is good man, life
is good. Look.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I want to I want to get the business out
of the way first, and honestly, Sean, I got to look,
you know me and you are the ones that really
give out the winners on this show more often than not.
But Thursday night I neglected you check the weather. I
gave out over forty eight in the first game all year.
We're no touchdown was scored. So pick me up a
little bit. Here, what's your best bet for the weekend?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Give me a winner?
Speaker 6 (21:27):
All right, So let's do this. Man, I'm going outside
the box. People are not gonna believe me, but I'm
going with history. And here's what history says. So the
records out the window. This is always a competitive game.
Maybe started six and oh the eight and three Armies
coming off a winning AAC championship. I'm taking the midshipman CLUTTONO.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Now, Ephraim took a whole like five minutes of our
show today to shout.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Out or mean monolare why you really think so?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Well, it's just this series. It doesn't really matter. You
know who had a good season, who did and this
is always a closed competitive down to the last minute game.
I think six is too much and don't forget this.
Maybe with six and oh when they went to Notre Dame,
yes they got they got waterboarded, but so did Army
when they went to Notre Dame. So I'm just the
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midshipment was like nothing more than to be at a
Cadets bar a decade from now and say we beat
Army the year they won the AAC. I'm not gonna
go midshipman outright, but I am gonna take the six points.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
That is sure. You know, these ribery games are weird.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
We just saw Michigan beat Ohio State just just a
couple of weeks ago, so you know who knows, But.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Go ahead, that's that's true.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I just I like Army because of the ability that
they have to actually throw the ball down the field. Now,
like that's an added benefit to in a wrinkle, to
that triple quadruple nasty option. All the service, the read options,
the service academy. Uh, you know they run based on
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being undersized. So I look, I hear you. You're the expert.
I would tell people to listen to you. But I
don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Hey, Brison Daily gets all the headlines. He's the Army quarterback.
He makes that entrant goal. He's really good. But I
know Blake Horbough, Hey, man, he's legit in his own right.
I'm just telling you he's sitting over there saying, don't
forget about me. I'm pretty damn good at myself. So
I think it's gonna be a great game. It better
because we don't got anything else, nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Nothing else to watch.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
All right, Well, I'd say last night wasn't quite a
great game. But Devondre Campbell decided he didn't eve gonna watch.
Didn't even want to watch the second half. You just want,
you know, so I'm going to the locker room. Sean,
in your career college NFL, did you ever experience anything
like to Andandre Campbell walking off the field of refusing
to play.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
What was your reaction?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
I didn't, And I want to say something here because
this is something I think is very important. He should
never be allowed to play another down here. And here's why.
There are only thirty two of these companies in the world,
and they only have fifty three spots. There are people
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that will cut their right arm off now to be
able to be on the sideline and have the coach
look at them and say go in the game now.
If you want to hold out because you think your
contract is off, I get it. Ain't nobody gonna say
nothing if you're injured and can't play. I get it,
but to not go in an NFL game because you
in your feelings, like if I would blackball him out
(24:45):
the league, just to send a message to everybody else.
If you take this for granted, then guess what, we'll
take it away. Then if you can't go to Europe
and play, you can't go to the G League. To
just think about how ridiculous that is. I don't care
how in your feelings you are. I don't care if
you were, if you are better than the player they
started in front of you, just the opportunity to be
(25:07):
on that sideline, how difficult it is to get there,
and how many guys that are just as good or
better than you are chomping at the bit to get
that opportunity. And you got the audacity to say I'm
not going in the game. I even got to the
pointed by what about your brothers are out there better,
some of them injured, some of them playing on contracts
they think have them underpaid. But they still out there
(25:28):
e stretching a card and fighting. But make an example
of these guys. Man, take this entitlement. It turns into
this ridiculous behavior out of the game. It's no room
for it.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
You're absolutely right, and toil that point, it is extremely
difficult to be able to lace up those cleats, put
on that helmet, and go out there every week and
just to be on a team. Hundreds of thousands of
players every year have to find other things to do
(26:01):
because there's no room for him, and to take that
for granted and not be accountable for your team.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
It is.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
It's the guys in the locker room. If you want
to destroy your locker room, keep a guy like that around,
because now they'll question everything, the sacrifices that they give
and then they make for the betterment of the team.
When someone is anti that, then it just disrupts the
whole thing period, the exact thing.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
They say, he won't play again here. And now the
restler thirty one teams they got to have some Kahunas
themselves and say we got to get this out of
the game. Like I don't because I love the game
so much. I don't want the behavior of some players
to start to roll the trust the public has in
the game. All you gotta do is look at the NBA, right,
(26:54):
All he cares about the NBA because of the behavior
of their players. This low management and I ain't gonna
play and the rumble pound, I ain't getting shots like that.
Ain't what the NFL ever been by. I don't want
it to become that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Now.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Now, Sean, you played for the Buccaneers obviously for a
good long time.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You play with Mike Alstott. Now I just have a question.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I know you didn't throw the ball to the fullback
quite often, but let's say you threw the ball to
all Stock and he dropped it, and then on defense
he goes out there and he's also playing middle linebacker, Like,
how would you as a quarterback? I feel if Travis
Hunter was one of your receivers and was like messing
up on a play knowing that he's got this, knowing
he doesn't have his full attention on offense.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Well, I'll say this, and I think Travis Hunter is
an unbelievable talent. I think Coach Prime has done a
great job in Colorado. I do think they sort of
have a messaging issue towards this particular thing. When Travis
was interviewed, he kind of downplayed the level of competition
Essen Dent was going against. Like when you hear coach
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talking people around Colorado. They're already calling him the Heisman winner.
Like I'm a son of a Baptist preacher. I was
cold Prime Coms before a fall. Right, be humble, let
your play speak for itself. Then they interview, asking zi
can He's like, you know, I just want my team
to be successful. You know, I thank all the guys.
(28:20):
I'm happy to be invited. May the best man win,
Like I just think if he doesn't win it, I
think that's why I think they're so braggadocious, so boastful,
so embold and to promote, you know, from you know,
their own accomplishments and achievements, that people may take that
the wrong way. We'll see it's coming soon.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I was talking to Martin earlier.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
I think if he does win it, it'll be closer
than I would would say it's warranted. And for that reason,
like people they feel a certain way about Deon Sanders
even when he played, they felt a certain way about that,
a certain way about Shador. Why wasn't he one of
(29:03):
the finalists for the Heisman? And so it's that mystique
around Colorado and their braggadocious their confidence.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I'll say, but to me.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
And so let me piggyback on that, because you've made
a very important point right there, and I know that
there are young men around the country that played this
game still that they're listening. The reason Shador isn't at
the Heisman finalist, and I believe this wholeheartedly, it's because
he decides to wear the half a million dollar watch
(29:38):
and throw it up in the air after the game,
and because so much of what he did, maybe more
so last year than this year, was about me, me, me,
me me, And I'm just telling you that's a dangerous narrative,
even if it's not intended. You can't be told off.
You have to be self aware. It's not about what
you think about what you're doing. How is it being received? Yes,
(30:00):
because of that, that's why cam Ward will be at
the Heisman as a finalist instead of sand North Sanders, I.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Agree with that.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
So let me ask you this real quick talking about
a guy going to college, Bill Belichick goes to the
University of North Carolina. I don't have this number anywhere.
I said it myself. Over under twenty seven and a
half wins in the next three years for Bill Belichick
in North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
And why.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Let me say this, I think it's gonna be successful there. Okay,
the ACC is not a deep conference year in the
year out. I mean, you got Clemson, who's kind of
been the most consistent team. Florida State popped up last
year with a great team. This year're awful. Miami bought
a ten and two team this year. A lot of
those guys contracts are aspiring, I said after Pop Part Bowl,
(30:48):
thinking first another win team. But here's the thing about
Belichick going to North Carolina that I think is kind
of interesting and intriguing. As the NFL has gone more
towards analytics in positions of power as opposed to football guys,
I meaning most of the gms now are not ex players, right,
analytics guys, the guys like Belichick who want to control
(31:12):
personnel and have say so and all the decisions made
throughout the organization. I wouldn't be surprised if they start
going back to college where the head coach does have
economy and nothing moves unless he says go. I'm sure
if this is going to be the only big name,
old school guy and we see go back to college
for that particular reason, wanting to be in control of personnel,
(31:34):
and everything that happens within the organization.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
All Right, you heard the man, that's Sean King. Can
get him on Twitter at real Sean King.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Shawn. Thanks coming on the show, my guys, your weekend.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Man, Hey, enjoy your weekend, guys.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yes, Sir, appreciated. You heard him say it.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Bill Belichick pulling up Billy Madison going back to school?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Why this could be more important?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Are more impressive than an accomplishment that somebody forever attached
to old Billy boy could make. Glad that Coming up next,
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you'll see this show posted right after we get off
the air. Ephram, what were your thoughts when we saw
one of the greatest NFL coaches of all time walking
into Chapel.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Hill for the first time? It was weird. It was
It was weird seeing it. It was weird even entertaining
the notion at you know, to be an agents.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
But now that old man go coach college, he's pretty
setting his ways.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
And what I do know about young people, having you know,
two nephews in their early twenties, and just the culture
around young people, it's not as quite as buttoned up
as it.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Was back when Old Bill.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Sure when Old Bill was last perusing colleges, and so
is there a disconnect between today's youth Now he's not
going and courting free agents, are sitting in his office
and bringing guys, grown men with families in. He's bringing
in and talking to teenagers. I'm talking about eighteen nineteen
(33:48):
year olds who TikTok and do all of those things,
have a lot of personality, a lot of outlets for
them to become a brand in il. Everything is a
little bit different in college and so seeing him there,
(34:08):
is he a great coach? Of course there's that's not
a question.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Can he.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Essentially get out of his own way let kids be
who they are opposed to making them all one thing?
This isn't the situation a situation where it could be
the Patriots way? Right, Like is he going in to
create the tar Heel way? And would kids today sign
up for that given the amount of freedom and their
(34:43):
ability financial for financial resources that they have available for
him now? Right, Because you can bring a kid in
he's like, now I'm out boom right, you rub him
the wrong way, He's going to he's in the portal,
and so it be I'm I'm really interested to see
(35:04):
just how well he's able to adapt to college. He
brought Joe Lombardy in to be the GM, which is
a new way to approach this because there is no
salary cap and you can go out and you can
spend the money you have to bring in players. He
doesn't want to have to deal with that, so he
brought someone in who's done it at the highest level.
(35:28):
I already like he already said we're going to run
this like a pro organization.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Now with that comes a lot of discipline. With that
comes a lot of sacrifice, something teenagers aren't necessarily used
to giving. And so I'm curious to really see just
how old. That's how your grandfather can you know? Is
(35:59):
he sigma or or is it gonna be skibbitty or what?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Right?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Like, That's how out of place it felt by me
just saying that, like, is it mid?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Is it right? Like? Right?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
That's how that it feels watching Belichick.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
So go to college.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
My thought initially is a this is going to be
a home run. Okay, when you look at the landscape
of college football as it is now, it's wide open,
and Belichick can come in and plant two feet in
a great area in North Carolina. But here's the other
thing I thought too, because for the longest time, it
was Brady won the divorce. Brady won the divorce because
(36:44):
you went to Tampa and won a championship, and I agreed,
But I never once in my mind thought that this
was a possibility.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'll tell you to tell you this right here, right now.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
If Bill Belichick wins a national championship, at North Carolina.
It is more impressive than Tom Brady winning another ring
in Tampa Bay. It's more impressive than Tom Brady winning
another ring in Tampa Bay. Belichick is able to go
navigating entirely new landscape in college football, an entirely new situation.
Make that twelve team playoff and advance and win a
(37:12):
national title.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I'll go ahead and be.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Like, we have to reopen that conversation because right now, Belichick,
right now, with with eight six as a coach and
two as a coordinator, super Bowl rings and then one
national championship ring, that whole goat conversation changes up a bit.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
You think, yeah, okay, because you win a Super Bowl,
you won a Super Bowl in Tampa.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
You basically did and I'm not saying it's easy by
saying basically, but you did the same thing you did
in New England. It was different cast of characters, different environment.
But the NFL and college football, while similar now there's
still two completely different sports.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
They are. That's a completely different sport. And I can
see I can see.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Your point there, going down to college for the first time,
being a college coach and winning leading the team to
a national championship in the landscape of today's college. Yeah,
that would be tremendous in terms of I still think
Brady won the divorce, but well, I.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Mean, Bill's got to go get that extra ring. But
I mean, Kurtcha, Indiana is in the playoffs. Why can't
North Carolina make it? More Belichick? Coming up next Martin
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Yep, I'm Martin. That's Ephrom. We're sitting in here for
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's the way that tire buying should be, Ephrom.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I you know, I live with both Mike, my girlfriend,
and my sister. We live We all live in the
one house. What now, we all live in one house
Like I'm an adult obviously. My sister's just I just
want to just get this out. We all live together, right,
It's not as weird as you make it out.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
To be.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
I mean it sounds weird just on hearing it, But
go ahead. Why I live with my girlfriend and my sister.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, we all share home. Okay, it's not like we
all share a room. Is it not a studio? It's
her boyfriend in there too.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
No, But what if she gets a boyfriend and wants
to move in, we'll address it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Would that be weird? We need a bigger space if
that's the case, right, probably?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Would that be weird? Like you're with your girlfriend in
the other room and you got you see what I'm saying.
You know, I'm thirty five years old. You're right, you're
a growl man.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I get you.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
But here, So here's the deal. I walking to my
house often, no reason I even brought this song. I
walk into my house often, and it's some version of
Love is Blind, Love Island and Love This Island that whatever? Yeah, right,
I come to work to get away from this. Yes,
(02:08):
And I walk into the studio right here. Yeah, and
this guy's watching Love is Blind.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Real. That's not that they're all. They all.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
It's very much like you'll get the NBA and they
all different curture, different colors, was all the same sport,
all these shows.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They may be different, it's all the same.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's the ultimatum, the ultimatum. Oh uh, so what's on
the ultimatum? Because I'll be walking in I'm sure it'll
be on in my living room.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
It's when couples have been together for a long time,
one wants to get married and settle down and the
other one does not, And so the one that does
want to settle down issues and ultimatum, either we get married,
get engaged, are we no longer see each other? And
(02:50):
what they do is they get several couples, they break
them up on the show, let them mingle with others,
and then you couple up with others.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I was about to say, let me join the show
if in fact, you don't want to marry the one.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
At the end of it, you get to pick whether
you'll be with the person you came with, and you
guys will take that next step.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Are you know? Has there ever been somebody who wanted
to there and then decided didn't want to get married
Moore and with somebody else.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
That's messy, and that's why it's good.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
There's no show otherwise, right, Why does that have a
few of those? Hell, a few that work and a
few that don't.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You Just imagine you propose the ultimatum and you're like, actually,
I don't want it anymore.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Like you know what, thank you for this. You've opened
my eyes to something I actually want. This person is committed,
she has her stuff together, she's ready to go.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We get along. We have a lot in common. We're
dating now.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
But these are the things that I come to work
to avoid.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And I you got a professional. You have to tap
into your six ' five. Just all merscle, Wow, that's
just sixty seven. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Six eight, all six eight, All four were offensive tackle
of them right, used to move row men for a living.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And he's sitting here watching The freaking Ultimate or whatever.
I know where I'm from, huh, Because we all make choices.
We all make choices, right.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Look, one thing I always say about me, I'm well rounded.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay. I like poetry, I like rap, I like sports.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I like rom coms, I mean, like this song, like
reality TV, but I like comedy sitcom.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
The last thing I'll do in this because I know
everybody's riving around who cares.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
No nobody they're they care because they're listening and they
either are on the awkward side of the fence you're on,
or the regular side of the fence I'm on.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Well, just it's fascinating what radio hosts decide to do
in the commercial break, right because you have to talk
for like anywhere from twenty anywhere from ten to twenty
minut straight damn near.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's why you take a little break, you know. So
is it like, how do you do?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You go to the bathroom Like I've been eating dinner
essentially for the last four comea.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
You leave the room and you scarf down whatever you're
scarfing down, listen, And I'm sitting in here with my
feet up. I had to look clearing my clearing my
mental palate. So is that what it is?
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Right?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I cleanse my mental palette. It's like the like when
you're tasting wine. Yeah, you gotta clear you gotta clean palate. Man,
I'm in here cleaning my mental palate. I'm gonna use
that of you from You're welcome, You're welcome. I like that,
you know a little Look how long you've been doing this?
Mark how long you been doing it?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It was five years or so. I've been doing this
since nineteen ninety eight. I was in the third grade nights.
So I've been in broadcast since nineteen ninety eight. That's
very Rob Parker of you to say something like no,
but it's true though clever delibriations like the eighty seven.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
But the other The only difference is I was also
an athlete, So I've been on both ends of the spectrum.
Or while I was playing, I was on TV and
I was on radio.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So when you were playing again, did you used to
between meetings?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
No?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
No, no, no no, because I but I was learning
the draft is blind like I was learning the craft.
Like that's why I can come in here. Rob, you
can call me and it's happened before, Scott.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Rob.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
You guys can call me and be like, someone's not here.
Can you be in ten minutes and I can come in.
Rob already knows I don't look at the rundowns, he
sends out in the email. That's respectful. Have I ever
missed a step? Have I ever seemed like I don't
know what's.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Going on now? And then you tell me about it afterwards?
It makes me more upset.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
But that's but we reps this show today. We did
not even once mention Ephim's name one time. He was
going to be ready at all, not one time.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
But that's right early on when I was doing this,
when I was learning the business, right, I learned how
to do all those things. So now on the break,
I'm like, oh, how wet me? No, I'm just gonna
put my feet up, cleanse my mental palate, and then
we're gonna rock and roll.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Okay, I just gave you. I just put you up
on game.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Right Like in ten fifteen years, you're gonna be in
here looking at all kinds of right.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Who knows I'm.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
On whatever it is that well, you know what, I'll
probably be doing well at that point, I'll probably be
watching it, okay, for I'll all go back for.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Starts, all going back. I'll go back for I got
bunny ears. Now I'm gonna be paneloged.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Mike Cable on my laptop to try to watch it. All.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Right, Look, so coming up next, listen, the NFL says
you can't do this, but this kid has been told
it his whole life.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Will he listen?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Martin wiss E from Salam coming up next to the
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from the tirec dot Com studios on the Odd Couple,
filling in for Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington on this
funky flashback Friday, Ephraim, Let's go ahead and flash it
all the way back to you.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You alluded to this earlier in the show.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Back to the days of leather helmets, Back to the
days the guys playing football on their lunch break from
the factory. Because that's the last time we saw guys
going both ways in the NFL consistently.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
We may see it next season, I hope.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
So. Travis Hunter spoke to the Pivot podcast about the
possibility of that occurring next year.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Where people want to get you into the building, and
they're gonna ask what if we only wanted you to
play one position? What would be and I don't care
what position it is. What would be your answer to that, Travis?
We want to draft you, we want to draft you
number one overall, but we don't feel it's fair to
you to make you play both sides of the football.
(09:24):
What would you tell that general manager.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Called coach Bryan, That's what I say.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Call coach fran He'll let you know the answer. They
know how I feel. I want to play both sides,
and nothing's gonna change my mind. You can tell me
all day now you can't play both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I'm gonna keep telling you guess I can. That's what
I want to do.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
And you have not seen me not play both sides
of the ball since you've been watching me, So why
not do it now?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I was thinking about it that Ephraim, because probably at
every level that he's been at, from middle school to
high school, from high school to Jackson State, from Jackson
State to Colorado now has coached the difference between Jackson
and Colorado. He wasn't saying that you couldn't do it.
But you know, the media at large say you can't
do it. And now from Colorado to the NFL, everyone
(10:11):
has told him he's gonna have to pick a side. Yes,
everyone that probably has told him that, except for Deon Sanders,
and that's why he went there.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
He was committed to Florida State, Remember, yes, and Florida State.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Ryan Clark asked him later row On, he said Florida
State was not gonna allow him to do that. If now,
I personally don't think it's a great idea to play
one hundred snaps of any football m heightst college or
professional football. But if you're the NFL team that drafts
this kid who has been told that every step of
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the way you have to pick. Are you really gonna
tell him he's got a pick, or you're gonna let
him figure out which one is gonna be it?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Or do you just let him play both sides?
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I think I think the conversation is where do you
see yourself as a primary player? What position is your
primary position? Do you feel you're a better cornerback then
you are a receiver? And based on that answer, if
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he says, look I'm a shutdown corner, I'm a lockdown corner.
That's where I feel more. That's natural, right, I'm a
man to man corner. I don't need to be in
the defensive huddle. Put me on their guy. I'll follow him,
that's me. I'llah dion sure.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Then you say okay, then it's your job to find
places to put him offensively. So if you have an
offensive series where there's a ten twelve play drive and
you allow him to come in in three four of
those plays, right now, he's playing both ways. If you
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put together a special package for him, if they say
say something like okay, if you guys go out there
and get a three and out, you get to play
the next offensive series.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
But if like in game incentive, But what happens is
you know that you're minimizing his exposure to injury. So
if you go out there and beginning the game, you
stop a team, they get the ball first, it's three plays,
you're off the field, get some water, you come out
for the offensive series.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Right, If you go.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Twelve plays offensively, then you're not going to play the
next defensive series. I will say what the difference between
a receiver and a cornerback is. Most cornerbacks don't come
off the field on defense. Right, receivers rotating in and
out right, So if you're primarily a cornerback, then you're
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going to play all of the defensive snaps. Receivers don't
play all the offensive snaps exactly. There's a place for
some leeway there. Also, they can make them a nickel cornerback. See,
that was my thought.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
If you really want to play both ways, then be
our third corner and our third receiver.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
So when we come out, well, he's too good to
be a third on both. But but you know, most teams,
if you could be our two, number one or two
receiver in our third cornerback, or you could be our
number one cornerback or a third or.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Fourth you know, but most guys, most teams are fundamentally
most teams are running like three receiver sets, that type
of thing. I'm thinking like when you're if you have
I just think it like this. I think he's probably
gonna play a corner more more, it's harder to find.
In my opinion, it is a good cornerback a lot
a top of the market corner very different.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It is the top of the market wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Right, you can you can duplicate some production you can put,
you can piece production together. I mean, look at Tampa,
it's not like they've fallen they haven't fallen off a bridge.
Since Mike Evans and Chris Godwin got hurt, they were
able to piece it together a little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Now, Mike Evans is it's a little lot harder to
do that at the cornerback position. Yeah, that's a specialty position.
It's like left tackleing.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
But I think if you're a team like the Jaguars
or the Patriots or one of these teams that is
floating around that area that could draft in the Panthers, whatever,
You're gonna look at your third receiver and be like, Okay, well,
Travis Hunter is better than this guy.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I can't just keep him on the bench, right, and
then he's gonna want to play.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
He went on to say in that interview, he said,
I get bored when I'm sitting on the sidelines. Now,
I think some of that, maybe the word choice is
a little lack of better term immature, but I think
there's something to the idea that it helps him stay
engaged in the entirety of the game, knowing he can
impact both sides of the ball, impacting both sides of
the ball.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, and look, being bored on the sideline's that's different
in the pros because every series you're in and you're out,
you're going over everything, right, you got the tablet, you're
going over. So you won't just be sitting there and
look into the student section like is she in my
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algebra class? Trigonometry? Right, You'll be engaged in what's going
on defensive wise, in the game plan. Right after that,
you get some water, you make adjustments, then you come coach.
I'm ready to go in offensively if the offense is
still out there and you go out there, all right,
we're going you know, three wides, Travis go right. But
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I don't think any team will be like, look, you
can't do that because you want to take advantage of
your talent. Now, you don't want to burn him out.
And having played one hundred games, one hundred plays a game,
that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think so too.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
And so it's one of those situations where what how
can we maximize and use his abilities in our favor? Right,
not just what he wants, but in our favor.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah. See the way I say it is because you
have so many teams.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Now are running at eleven where it's just one tight end,
one running back, and there's three receivers out there already. Like,
you're not telling me that Travis, like for example, Atlanta
runs out of ton. You're not telling me that Travis
Hunters not better than like Ray Ray McLeod.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Like, I'm like, he's gonna get some of those snaps.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
So I see it being like a where he's not
a rotational wide receiver, but he's not gonna To me,
he shouldn't be your number one offensive target, but out
there more often that red zone package is third down,
that type of situation used in moments and deployed in
moments like that.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And I think if he's done.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Like that, then I think that I don't see the
big problem with that.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I think he's such a tremendous talent. They'll find the
right amount of usage for him. Now if he get
nicked up, if he's nicked up or something like that,
I have to make a decision. You get, we're not
about to play these games. We're not gonna play these games, right.
We're gonna focus on getting you back healthy, and we're
gonna focus on your primary position.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
That's why.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I think it's important to establish that what that is
offense or defense.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I think somebody else the way that this kid talks,
somebody might have to make that decision for because he's
gonna be I don't know what.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Well, you you know what wisdom is or wasted on
the young or something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I think that's the same. Well my mama used to say,
it's got to be the wisdom is, energy is wasted
on it. Something is wasted. He's wasted on you, something
youth is wasted on them. They just don't either way.
And then you know, to.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
The point, the kid is like twenty one years old
right now, he's making a bunch of money, he's doing
something he loves. He probably feels a lot better on
Sunday after the game than he will at twenty eight
years old.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
After you know, yeah, five, you can run through walls, man,
when you're that young. But once you get older, once
you get five six years in the league, you don't
recover for Wednesday practice anymore. It's right around Friday where
you're like, man, folk, I feel like I can play.
And then year ten, it's like Saturday night, you like, okay,
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I think I can get out there and play now
anything past ten is they just it's just gonna stack
on top of each other.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You never truly feel like you're ready to play. Okay,
So how's the feasibility of it work though?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Because I think that if because okay, if you're a
man a man corner, right, you don't necessarily you should
be at all the meetings, right, it just as a
blank of statement. But if you're just one of those
guys who is gonna you know, you're gonna take the
best receiver on the team guard him every single snap,
then you're just following him around everywhere he goes.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Maybe you can miss a couple of meetings here and there.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
As everybody else is figuring out what they're gonna do
because you're playing lock one on one. But how like
it's it's reported now that he doesn't practice much, which
makes a ton of sense because he plays double the
amount of snaps. How much is that gonna be able
to translate into the NFL though, where you imagine I
imagine he's gonna have to practice a little bit more than.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
He is in college, of course, because it's you know,
he's been with shoulder for a long time. It's been
with that defense for a long like they know each other.
The chemistry is there, so you're going to have to
put the practice reps in to build that chemistry.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's that's what's important.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
And once that happens, if they can keep the same
offensive coordinator together, same quarterback, and you build that relationship
in that chemistry, then you don't need the wear and
tear of practice like that. Defensively, on the other side
of the ball, you're making defensive adjustments, what type of
game plan, what type of defense you're plane depending on
who you're playing, is it man, is its zone? Is
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the combination? There is a little bit more a nuance
on that side based on being an individual player like
a corner. So you know, how do you split those
that time in meetings because you're going to it's install
on Wednesday. Sure, you put the defensive game plan in,
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you put the offensive game plan in.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
And I imagine that probably has a little bit of
overlap in terms of scheduling there at the same time
twenty four hours.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Well, you have a team you come in, you have
a special teams meeting, then you have a team meet,
and then you break up into offense and defensive meetings,
then you break up into your position meetings, then you
go out to practice, then you come back in in
your position meetings and watch what you did in practice.
So it's one of those situations where you can't be
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at two places at one time.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well, you can't be in two places at one time,
but you may be able to play both sides of
the ball in one game. Well that's Sean King about that.
In just a moment. I know he'll have some picksforts
try to win some money.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
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Speaker 4 (20:43):
This guy's a regular guest on The Couple, Sean King,
former NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Sean, thanks for joining the show, my friend.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
How you doing man, A right man, excellent man. Thanks
for having me. Man y'all doing on this wonderful Friday.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
We're good man, good night, here is good man, life
is good. Look.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I want to I want to get the business out
of the way first, and honestly, Sean, I got to look,
you know me and you are the ones that really
give out the winners on this show more often than not.
But Thursday night I neglected you check the weather. I
gave out over forty eight in the first game all year.
We're no touchdown was scored. So pick me up a
little bit. Here, what's your best bet for the weekend?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Give me a winner?
Speaker 6 (21:27):
All right, So let's do this. Man, I'm going outside
the box. People are not gonna believe me, but I'm
going with history. And here's what history says. So the
records out the window. This is always a competitive game.
Maybe started six and oh the eight and three Armies
coming off a winning AAC championship. I'm taking the midshipman CLUTTONO.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Now, Ephraim took a whole like five minutes of our
show today to shout.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Out or mean monolare why you really think so?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Well, it's just this series. It doesn't really matter. You
know who had a good season, who did and this
is always a closed competitive down to the last minute game.
I think six is too much and don't forget this.
Maybe with six and oh when they went to Notre Dame,
yes they got they got waterboarded, but so did Army
when they went to Notre Dame. So I'm just the
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midshipment was like nothing more than to be at a
Cadets bar a decade from now and say we beat
Army the year they won the AAC. I'm not gonna
go midshipman outright, but I am gonna take the six points.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
That is sure. You know, these ribery games are weird.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
We just saw Michigan beat Ohio State just just a
couple of weeks ago, so you know who knows, But.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Go ahead, that's that's true.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I just I like Army because of the ability that
they have to actually throw the ball down the field. Now,
like that's an added benefit to in a wrinkle, to
that triple quadruple nasty option. All the service, the read options,
the service academy. Uh, you know they run based on
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being undersized. So I look, I hear you. You're the expert.
I would tell people to listen to you. But I
don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Hey, Brison Daily gets all the headlines. He's the Army quarterback.
He makes that entrant goal. He's really good. But I
know Blake Horbough, Hey, man, he's legit in his own right.
I'm just telling you he's sitting over there saying, don't
forget about me. I'm pretty damn good at myself. So
I think it's gonna be a great game. It better
because we don't got anything else, nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Nothing else to watch.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
All right, Well, I'd say last night wasn't quite a
great game. But Devondre Campbell decided he didn't eve gonna watch.
Didn't even want to watch the second half. You just want,
you know, so I'm going to the locker room. Sean,
in your career college NFL, did you ever experience anything
like to Andandre Campbell walking off the field of refusing
to play.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
What was your reaction?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
I didn't, And I want to say something here because
this is something I think is very important. He should
never be allowed to play another down here. And here's why.
There are only thirty two of these companies in the world,
and they only have fifty three spots. There are people
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that will cut their right arm off now to be
able to be on the sideline and have the coach
look at them and say go in the game now.
If you want to hold out because you think your
contract is off, I get it. Ain't nobody gonna say
nothing if you're injured and can't play. I get it,
but to not go in an NFL game because you
in your feelings, like if I would blackball him out
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the league, just to send a message to everybody else.
If you take this for granted, then guess what, we'll
take it away. Then if you can't go to Europe
and play, you can't go to the G League. To
just think about how ridiculous that is. I don't care
how in your feelings you are. I don't care if
you were, if you are better than the player they
started in front of you, just the opportunity to be
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on that sideline, how difficult it is to get there,
and how many guys that are just as good or
better than you are chomping at the bit to get
that opportunity. And you got the audacity to say I'm
not going in the game. I even got to the
pointed by what about your brothers are out there better,
some of them injured, some of them playing on contracts
they think have them underpaid. But they still out there
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e stretching a card and fighting. But make an example
of these guys. Man, take this entitlement. It turns into
this ridiculous behavior out of the game. It's no room
for it.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
You're absolutely right, and toil that point, it is extremely
difficult to be able to lace up those cleats, put
on that helmet, and go out there every week and
just to be on a team. Hundreds of thousands of
players every year have to find other things to do
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because there's no room for him, and to take that
for granted and not be accountable for your team.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
It is.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
It's the guys in the locker room. If you want
to destroy your locker room, keep a guy like that around,
because now they'll question everything, the sacrifices that they give
and then they make for the betterment of the team.
When someone is anti that, then it just disrupts the
whole thing period, the exact thing.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
They say, he won't play again here. And now the
restler thirty one teams they got to have some Kahunas
themselves and say we got to get this out of
the game. Like I don't because I love the game
so much. I don't want the behavior of some players
to start to roll the trust the public has in
the game. All you gotta do is look at the NBA, right,
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All he cares about the NBA because of the behavior
of their players. This low management and I ain't gonna
play and the rumble pound, I ain't getting shots like that.
Ain't what the NFL ever been by. I don't want
it to become that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Now.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Now, Sean, you played for the Buccaneers obviously for a
good long time.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You play with Mike Alstott. Now I just have a question.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I know you didn't throw the ball to the fullback
quite often, but let's say you threw the ball to
all Stock and he dropped it, and then on defense
he goes out there and he's also playing middle linebacker, Like,
how would you as a quarterback? I feel if Travis
Hunter was one of your receivers and was like messing
up on a play knowing that he's got this, knowing
he doesn't have his full attention on offense.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Well, I'll say this, and I think Travis Hunter is
an unbelievable talent. I think Coach Prime has done a
great job in Colorado. I do think they sort of
have a messaging issue towards this particular thing. When Travis
was interviewed, he kind of downplayed the level of competition
Essen Dent was going against. Like when you hear coach
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talking people around Colorado. They're already calling him the Heisman winner.
Like I'm a son of a Baptist preacher. I was
cold Prime Coms before a fall. Right, be humble, let
your play speak for itself. Then they interview, asking zi
can He's like, you know, I just want my team
to be successful. You know, I thank all the guys.
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I'm happy to be invited. May the best man win,
Like I just think if he doesn't win it, I
think that's why I think they're so braggadocious, so boastful,
so embold and to promote, you know, from you know,
their own accomplishments and achievements, that people may take that
the wrong way. We'll see it's coming soon.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I was talking to Martin earlier.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
I think if he does win it, it'll be closer
than I would would say it's warranted. And for that reason,
like people they feel a certain way about Deon Sanders
even when he played, they felt a certain way about that,
a certain way about Shador. Why wasn't he one of
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the finalists for the Heisman? And so it's that mystique
around Colorado and their braggadocious their confidence.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I'll say, but to me.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
And so let me piggyback on that, because you've made
a very important point right there, and I know that
there are young men around the country that played this
game still that they're listening. The reason Shador isn't at
the Heisman finalist, and I believe this wholeheartedly, it's because
he decides to wear the half a million dollar watch
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and throw it up in the air after the game,
and because so much of what he did, maybe more
so last year than this year, was about me, me, me,
me me, And I'm just telling you that's a dangerous narrative,
even if it's not intended. You can't be told off.
You have to be self aware. It's not about what
you think about what you're doing. How is it being received? Yes,
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because of that, that's why cam Ward will be at
the Heisman as a finalist instead of sand North Sanders, I.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Agree with that.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
So let me ask you this real quick talking about
a guy going to college, Bill Belichick goes to the
University of North Carolina. I don't have this number anywhere.
I said it myself. Over under twenty seven and a
half wins in the next three years for Bill Belichick
in North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
And why.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Let me say this, I think it's gonna be successful there. Okay,
the ACC is not a deep conference year in the
year out. I mean, you got Clemson, who's kind of
been the most consistent team. Florida State popped up last
year with a great team. This year're awful. Miami bought
a ten and two team this year. A lot of
those guys contracts are aspiring, I said after Pop Part Bowl,
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thinking first another win team. But here's the thing about
Belichick going to North Carolina that I think is kind
of interesting and intriguing. As the NFL has gone more
towards analytics in positions of power as opposed to football guys,
I meaning most of the gms now are not ex players, right,
analytics guys, the guys like Belichick who want to control
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personnel and have say so and all the decisions made
throughout the organization. I wouldn't be surprised if they start
going back to college where the head coach does have
economy and nothing moves unless he says go. I'm sure
if this is going to be the only big name,
old school guy and we see go back to college
for that particular reason, wanting to be in control of personnel,
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and everything that happens within the organization.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
All Right, you heard the man, that's Sean King. Can
get him on Twitter at real Sean King.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Shawn. Thanks coming on the show, my guys, your weekend.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Man, Hey, enjoy your weekend, guys.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yes, Sir, appreciated. You heard him say it.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Bill Belichick pulling up Billy Madison going back to school?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Why this could be more important?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Are more impressive than an accomplishment that somebody forever attached
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you'll see this show posted right after we get off
the air. Ephram, what were your thoughts when we saw
one of the greatest NFL coaches of all time walking
into Chapel.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Hill for the first time? It was weird. It was
It was weird seeing it. It was weird even entertaining
the notion at you know, to be an agents.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
But now that old man go coach college, he's pretty
setting his ways.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
And what I do know about young people, having you know,
two nephews in their early twenties, and just the culture
around young people, it's not as quite as buttoned up
as it.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Was back when Old Bill.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Sure when Old Bill was last perusing colleges, and so
is there a disconnect between today's youth Now he's not
going and courting free agents, are sitting in his office
and bringing guys, grown men with families in. He's bringing
in and talking to teenagers. I'm talking about eighteen nineteen
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year olds who TikTok and do all of those things,
have a lot of personality, a lot of outlets for
them to become a brand in il. Everything is a
little bit different in college and so seeing him there,
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is he a great coach? Of course there's that's not
a question.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Can he.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Essentially get out of his own way let kids be
who they are opposed to making them all one thing?
This isn't the situation a situation where it could be
the Patriots way? Right, Like is he going in to
create the tar Heel way? And would kids today sign
up for that given the amount of freedom and their
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ability financial for financial resources that they have available for
him now? Right, Because you can bring a kid in
he's like, now I'm out boom right, you rub him
the wrong way, He's going to he's in the portal,
and so it be I'm I'm really interested to see
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just how well he's able to adapt to college. He
brought Joe Lombardy in to be the GM, which is
a new way to approach this because there is no
salary cap and you can go out and you can
spend the money you have to bring in players. He
doesn't want to have to deal with that, so he
brought someone in who's done it at the highest level.
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I already like he already said we're going to run
this like a pro organization.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Now with that comes a lot of discipline. With that
comes a lot of sacrifice, something teenagers aren't necessarily used
to giving. And so I'm curious to really see just
how old. That's how your grandfather can you know? Is
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he sigma or or is it gonna be skibbitty or what?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Right?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Like, That's how out of place it felt by me
just saying that, like, is it mid?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Is it right? Like? Right?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
That's how that it feels watching Belichick.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
So go to college.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
My thought initially is a this is going to be
a home run. Okay, when you look at the landscape
of college football as it is now, it's wide open,
and Belichick can come in and plant two feet in
a great area in North Carolina. But here's the other
thing I thought too, because for the longest time, it
was Brady won the divorce. Brady won the divorce because
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you went to Tampa and won a championship, and I agreed,
But I never once in my mind thought that this
was a possibility.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'll tell you to tell you this right here, right now.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
If Bill Belichick wins a national championship, at North Carolina.
It is more impressive than Tom Brady winning another ring
in Tampa Bay. It's more impressive than Tom Brady winning
another ring in Tampa Bay. Belichick is able to go
navigating entirely new landscape in college football, an entirely new situation.
Make that twelve team playoff and advance and win a
(37:12):
national title.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I'll go ahead and be.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Like, we have to reopen that conversation because right now, Belichick,
right now, with with eight six as a coach and
two as a coordinator, super Bowl rings and then one
national championship ring, that whole goat conversation changes up a bit.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
You think, yeah, okay, because you win a Super Bowl,
you won a Super Bowl in Tampa.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
You basically did and I'm not saying it's easy by
saying basically, but you did the same thing you did
in New England. It was different cast of characters, different environment.
But the NFL and college football, while similar now there's
still two completely different sports.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
They are. That's a completely different sport. And I can
see I can see.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Your point there, going down to college for the first time,
being a college coach and winning leading the team to
a national championship in the landscape of today's college. Yeah,
that would be tremendous in terms of I still think
Brady won the divorce, but well, I.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Mean, Bill's got to go get that extra ring. But
I mean, Kurtcha, Indiana is in the playoffs. Why can't
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