December 14, 2024 • 30 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether or not LeBron James has lived up to his end of the bargain with the Los Angeles Lakers, argue over whether or not Bill Belichick accepting the North Carolina head coaching job is most about turning his son Steve into a nepotism hire for the future and debate whether Caitlin Clark or Shohei Ohtani was more deserving of being named TIME Magazine’s Athlete of the Year.
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well, let's let's start here.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Uh. Time Magazine's Athlete of the Year was announced today. Yeah,
and it's Kaitlin Clark and you believe she was the
clear choice. And you have no issue with Time selecting
Kaitlyn Clark from the Indiana I got a fever and
I don't know what to do with it or know?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Is that the name of the team she plays for. Yeah, yeah,
don't act like you don't know. You know, you don't miss.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
A single w NBA game, let alone a Kaitlin Clark game.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Come on, I never missed a WNBA No, I never
lived watching, so I never miss it.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, I mean, you know, Look, there are a couple
of contenders, Like any year that you know, you could
say this person.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't try to steal my thumb to just talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I know, but the fact that I'm gonna tell you
it is to me, I think it was actually a
clear cut one in this case with Caitlyn Clark, what
she was able to do.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And you split it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Up a couple of ways for you to get Time,
magazine and anything. Typically it means you were great at
what you do, but also you brought another narrative to
this thing.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You brought a bigger storyline.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You did something globally or something that was bigger than
just simply your play. And that's what she did. So
first of all, you gotta go back. Remember she was
the darling of March Madness earlier this year, so she
was already that girl in college basketball. Women's college basketball
had everybody watching. The viewership was up in college the
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ratings were up because of her games. She had people
talking in barbershops that never talk about women's basketball, ever
talk about women's basketball. And we were having this these conversations.
A shout out to Ada Reese and Juju Watkins a
part of this, really this nice group of young female
talented hoopers. But she was spearheading this. So now we
got us talking about college basketball. She balls on the tournament.
(02:17):
She's doing things we haven't seen a female hooper dude hidden,
just like we didn't really see men's until Steph Curry
a decade or so sooner. Then Rob, she took over college.
Now we go on the pros, and then she takes
over the pros. There's controversy in the pros. They're hitting
her around, they're pushing around, they're treating it like this.
This is dominating conversations. It's the lead on all the
(02:40):
debate shows that never happens.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Ever, you and Bruson are talking about women's college basketball,
women's WNBA, and then she starts like most people in
any sport, starts off a little slow, gets her feet under,
balls out, and starts to set of records. We're leading
the league and assists, hitting three points all over the place,
ends up being Rookie of the Year. And we have
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conversations about not only the actual Olympics, but who doesn't
even make the Olympics and her she didn't even make
the Olympics, and she was the topic of conversation for
not even making the team, and people thought they were
crazy for keeping her off.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So to me, it was clear cut.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
When you look at the way she empowered the sport itself.
They get Charter jets, They got more than fifty four
million unique viewers, which is the most ever, the most
watched WNBA games on all networks. Where the game she played,
all that she broke, all the WNBA home attendance records.
She got me and the Washington girls we went and
saw a game here in La it sud the people.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Of Jersey for everybody that was the fun that was.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
The Cherry maggazine called me, yeah and they said that
the Washington.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Cus Yeah, okay. So you look at what they're set
to receive.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
The WNBA is set to receive two hundred million dollars
per year, which is up sixty million dollars, and she
is a large.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Reason for that.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
So I just think when I look at the economic
boom because of Kaitlyn Clark, the economic boom that affects
not just.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Herbert all of her, the league and the league as
a whole.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
The viewership that is going up dramatically because of her,
and not to mention she was Rookie of the Year
in a heck of a player.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I just think it's she could clearcut it is her.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
We've never experienced a WNBA of women's basketball boom like
this where its leading shows we're talking about it. So
to me, I think the choice was obvious and they
got it right now.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
They could not have been more wrong on this, and
Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Had an impact.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
But first of all, you mentioned a couple of things
which to me takes her out of it. She didn't
win a national championship this year as well as she
played in all the other eyeballs, and she wasn't even
on the Olympic team.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That's your Athlete of the Year. That makes no.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Sense to me because along with the other stuff, the
window dressing that people want to give Kaitlyn Clark. Can
we talk about Sho hal Tani, who in one year
Okay set the market with a seven hundred million dollar contract,
had a historic fifty to fifty year that no one
has ever done in the history of Major League Baseball
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that's been around for one hundred and fifty years. May
I not thirty years like the WNBA, but one hundred
and fifty years and no one had ever done it.
And he capped it off with a World Series championship show.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Hal Tani was must see TV.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It. You could see it whenever the Dodgers were all nationally. Locally,
he was a phenomenon. You went yourself to spring training
and tell me when you went to Arizona, was there
not a cavalcade of unbelievable fans to get a glimpse
his jersey, everything about him. And all he did was
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move forty miles away from where he was playing and transfer,
I heard made a transformation into where baseball was. And
if you want to talk about ratings, the two thousand
and four World Series between the Dodgers and the Yankees
average twelve point nine million in Japan alone.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Which is a world series record.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
So the combined ratings for LA and Japan twenty eight
point seven.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Million people per game.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Hands down, Shoe a Otani was the athlete of the Year.
The Time magazine got it wrong, and I know, Kaitlin,
there was a buzz, But how in the world could
have athletes sign a seven hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Go fifty to fifty for the first.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Time in a sport that's been around almost two hundred years,
win a World Series, and have unprecedented TV ratings in
two countries.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I mean, come, I'll tell you why showy as you've
heard me talk about and even defending him against you,
going up against him and Aaron Judge and all that
was spectacular. But this isn't a who is the actual
maybe best athlete, but rob What makes him phenomenal he
didn't even do.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
What makes him a unicorn is.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
That he hits and pitches, and he didn't even pitch
this year.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
He's done it. He was more of respect.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
He was more ReSpectacle the years prior to the last
couple of years because he was getting.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Winning twenty games and in fifty home runs and we
never seen if you.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I'm saying pitching in more to more than twenty games,
we had never seen this before. That's what made him
the unicorn. It was special to see this year. The
bigger argument could be made about baseball as a whole
then o Tani. Baseball as a whole had a mega year.
Baseball as a whole had better storylines. Baseball was more entertaining.
You had the Tigers out of nowhere, the Yankees and Dodgers,
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Bolts make it to the World season, Oh my gosh,
the Mets, where did they come from?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
And all of a sudden you got Grimace becoming a thing.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So I would argue more than Otani, Baseball had a
bigger year. If you're gonna go in the rankings of
This Time magazine, I think it's Kaitlyn Clark, then Baseball,
then old Tani, and old Kaitlyn Clark is the most
casual fan or casual person conversation.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Everyone knows Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's that girl in the WNBA who's shooting all those
streets and doing this or causing condo.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Nobody knows show hal Time. A lot of people know
a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I just said a lot of people know show hal Tony,
but nobody. He didn't evoke conversations like this Tani did.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
He started the year with signing the contract that that
people can shaef.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
No, that's true. That was the start of it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And then it went to the fifty to fifty, which
nobody that was the big talk. Is he gonna get
fifty to fifty and then his Dodgers win.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
The World Series? This is the challenge, Rob Parkers, this
is the challenge talking to you. You love baseball, you
are baseball and you are MLB bro.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
So you in your echo chamber and.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Y'all get Tom You went Sean and Steve the Seger
and y'all get your little MLB on and you forget
a lot of people don't.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Necessarily. It's not that baseball is not good. No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
We had a This was an amazing time covering baseball,
best I've had in years. But what I mean is
Kyler Clark was starting controversy. She ain't as good as this.
She's only getting this because she's white. No, Angel Reese's start.
This was bigger than anything. This goes back to what
made bird and magic and all of these things.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
It involved race, involves in the money in earth. When
I laid she didn't win, she didn't make the Olympic,
nigga bit time actually.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Playing, but it happened the years astute of the year.
I told you it's you catched me more than just
the actual game.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
But he encompassed everything. I mean, Oh, Tony did everything.
Set set the market value on on salary, and.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
We passed it in the year.
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Speaker 4 (10:10):
Rob G you want to jump in Bill Belichick is
going to be announced tomorrow, I guess as the new
head coach of North Carolina football, not basketball.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I'm just a football rob G. We got a little details. Yeah,
rob G's walking back there.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, but this is something we've it's been a few
days now and went from is he just throwing his
name out there?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
To you know, they really is just doing it?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Was serious at all? And now here we are They've agreed,
he's agreed and it's and it's actually happening.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
And all signs point to that four hundred page bible
that we were having fun with yesterday. All signs points
to we haven't heard anything different. All of those terms
are being met, including the coaching staff, which you guys
talked about on Friday. We go poach my boy, go
tech the boy pans So Matt Patricia's gonna be there.
His son, Steve Belichick will be leaving the University of
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Washington become the assistant coach at UNC and the head
coach in waiting, which would make sense. Is because it's
been reported this deal is only a three year contract
for Bill Belichick. And I don't know about you, but
I don't know how many guys can turn around in
entire football program in three seasons, by the miss.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Not many, especially when you're not a football school.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I thought the Bible was going to be a doorstop
for the school president, but apparently not so. Bill Belichick
is making this move, and Kelvin.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Here we go. Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
To me, this is a clear sign of Bill Belichick
picking nepotism over a chance at NFL history. It's pretty
simple to me. He ain't going to some college football powerhouse.
He ain't getting paid a gazillion dollars ten million of years. Nice,
but it ain't a gazillion dollars where you couldn't pass
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up the money. And when I look at this, because
we know the caveat buried not in the language, of course,
of the contract, but that his son Steve will be
the head coach in waiting after Bill steps aside, this
is about nepotism.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And I've said this. I didn't like it when Lebron
did it.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I've never liked it. I don't care who's at the
end of it. It's a bad plague, especially the NFL. Kelvin,
so many issues, in so many stories have been written
about nepotism in the NFL and the reason that it's
always been hard for minorities and black coaches to get in.
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Because here's a couple numbers, and this comes back from
a two thousand and two article in USA Today. Of
the seven hundred and seventeen on field coaches this season,
at least ninety three thirteen percent have a father, son,
or brother who is a current or former NFL coach.
Of the ninety three coaches with connections, seventy six percent
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seventy six which is eighty two percent of white and
make up nearly one fifth of the league's white coaching.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Force.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Meanwhile, five point four coaches of color have a family
connection and seven head coaches, six white or either the
son or father of a former NFL coach.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
And so here is Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Who has a chance, a real chance of passing Don
Shuler as the all time winning his coach, or I
should say, with the most wins in the history of
the NFL at three hundred and twenty eight is what
Don Schuler has. Bill Belichick is twenty six behind. George
Hallis is second Kelvin at three eighteen. And I looked
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at the math, it ain't like it's impossible nine and
seven a couple years, a ten win season, one to
ten or eleven win season.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
All he has to do is.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Go eight or win eight or nine games or something
like that in time, and he would have a real shot.
Say if he took over the Cowboys or something or
whatever whatever, that would be a real possibility. So instead
of trying to do that and put your name in
the record books, he wants to set his son up.
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And this is what I look at this deal as
North Carolina no football history. He's not turning this program
around nil talk about being outdated. This is like Fred
Flintstone buying a car that travels with wheels and he
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doesn't have to power with his foot with his feet.
I just don't see this as a match. I think
this is terrible. And the nepotism drips from.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
This a lot to dissect. And you definitely you was
fired up about some Bill Belichick man. I almost had
to come over there and get you one of his hoodies.
All right, So let's start with this. There is I'm weird,
not weird, but there's a small connection I'll say between
he and UNC that his father was a coach there
for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Back in the fifties. Uh, he was a running back coach.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So there's some connection to some lineage if you will
to that my dad coach here, now, I'll coach here,
and then maybe my son will coach here now. So
we have some type of this is what we do.
We coach at UNC. So there's that. What also, the nepotism,
it's not that when we when we have these conversations,
it's not that this needs to be in a perfect world,
but it's the world we live in. So when I
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talk about it is it's happening. It's always existed. And
I think to your point about talking about African American
coaches and former players or whatnot. That's why with Ron,
I'm okay with it. Maybe we need to flex it more,
Maybe we need to get our nepotism on if that's
what it takes. It's not what you know, it's who
you know. So they're not the only issue I have
with this. And I'm gonna push back on.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
This is you got to take Lebron as the all
time top one of the top players.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
It ain't.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
It ain't like top point, every top, every top white
coaches getting their son or their cousin in and that's
the difference.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We don't right. So that's why I don't buy in, right.
But that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
So when you get the like, for instance, the NBA
now is full of former players sons, which are going
to lead to more connections, right, whether they become head coaches,
whether they become uh broadcasters like us. Where they become
and then they bring in their friends, their family, their sons,
and it starts to happen like that, where you start
to be able to populate it with some people.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I don't think we have that same when we get
hired a job, right'.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I don't believe. I agree.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I don't currently I agree, but I'm saying the only
way to try to change it is to try and
change it. That's why Lebron having his whole crew everybody
grew up with put you in power over here, Maverick
Card over here, Rich Paul over here. I love it
because again you're populating with more people, a diverse group
of individuals. I'm with that, but keeping going, this is
starting to if there was any hope, Rob that amateurism
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still existed in college football, that there was some little
hope people say, it's all about the game and college
at a fleet. It's not about being pros and money.
It's gone. He has literally said in his Book of Bible,
the bill of Book of Bible that they subscribe to,
he said, I need players to get played, I need
minimum salaries. I need to like this. Literally, I'm telling
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you pay these players this. It's going to be a
system of how they're paid. And I want that and
you have to agree to it. And apparently they're going
to it's turning into IMG Sports Academy, where if you're
the best high school players in the country, you go
to IMNG.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
We'll school it up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, but you're here to become a college athlete and
also probably a pro. That's what IMG Academy is. Will
timmy who's trying his hardest, if he ain't good enough,
he ain't coming here. We only want the guys and
gals we know were putting up in college potentially pro.
So this is becoming a farm system to the NFL.
Now it'll be interesting to see if players like this.
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Do players get greedy? Yeah, you guarantee me this money.
It ain't enough. It ain't enough. And will this experiment
ultimately work but also Robbie made me think, did the
NFL not subscribe to the Bill Belichick Bible?
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Did they say, yeah, we want you to coach, but
I don't want.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You to coach for the Fox Sports shout out to us,
out to Fox Sports. We want you to coach, but
we don't want you to have all the power. We
don't want you to dictate Matt Patrice who has to
come in. Your son has to take over the you know,
become the coach of once you leave. And I'm wondering
that the NFL said, yeah, sure's a few teams who
on my interview and you and have you position. But
like the Atlanta Falcons last year, we heard he wanted
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everything and they're like, all right, hold on, are you
doing too much?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
And I'm wondering if this is out time out for
the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It started off all right, didn't Kirk Obangs was now
he is he is Kurky Organizations.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm gonna say you go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Kurk doesn't want because yeah, but I'm thinking the NFL said, hey,
here's an opportunity. Here's what we're here's what we're willing
to extend and give you we're not giving you all control.
We're not giving you let you decide. Isn't just about control.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I hear you. The reason he took this job is
about his kid. Let's just be that's part of the control.
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Also, give my kid a son, right, that is control,
Meaning you couldn't go to the Falcons or say, uh,
the Panthers and say I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna
do this. Oh and by the way, give my kid
this head coach. They're gonna be all right. You're doing
too much now, So I think that's I'm agreeing that
that's a massive part of this. I want to control
everything about the organization, the program and control its destiny
once I leave. And guess what he got it. And
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the last point is you talked about winning. Look, if
he doesn't beat Don Shula, everybody knows he's the greatest
football coach. Is specifically anfl like whether he wat the
record or not, I agree that in a person.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Don Shula never had a cheating scandal when he was coaching.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You. Honestly, Rob, you're the only one who cares about that. Like, seriously,
nobody cares. Is that why Robert Crafts in the Hall
of I said, the coach, Okay, I'm just coach, and
you know what he's gonna He's gonna be owns the team.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
He's But yeah, but we talk about coach.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You just talked about it the other day that this
should be a different thing getting in the Hall of Fame,
Like it should be the folks who vote on the players.
And that's that. Uh, Rob, Robert Kraft owns a team.
He didn't necessarily get down there and coach on the
day to day.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
He wasn't. John Jones, Jerry Jones is the owner of owners.
I'm not, but they were all the owners in it. Joe,
I hear you. And the cheat. It's never gonna affect
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
It's never gonna affect Tom Brady's got a quarter of
a billion dollars to be on TV every day in
our face. It's not gonna affect he or Bill Belichick.
Just you just gotta get over that, my brother. It
is not going to But it'll be interesting to see
how long he says three year deal. Will he do
three years? I don't know if he's going to commit
to that. I don't have it really going past two years.
But uh, this might change the game as far as
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X coaches in the NFL coming into these programs saying
give me all the power, give me all the money,
and I'll turn this thing around. We'll see if that's
what this starts to become even more making the making
college even more professional.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Just a pre professional is what it'll be.
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Speaker 4 (21:02):
Rob Ge, can you give us an update about your
favorite basketball team, the Los Angeles Lakers and your guy,
Lebron James, who's not with the team personal reasons, as
coach JJ Reddick has said, and there's more.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Yeah, Rob, The updates are not good if you're a
Lakers fan because despite being off for about a week now,
including as you mentioned, two personal days away from the team,
which we don't know what they're for, whether injury, emotional, mental,
We have no idea at this point, has already been
declared out for tomorrow's game against the Minnesota Timberwolves, and
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the company line Rob and Kelvin is that he's just
gassed he needs a rest, he needs to recuperate, you know,
to finish off the rest of the calendar year.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
And this was the guy who they can't JJ and
him came in with the plan he was gonna play
every game this year?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Was that the plan?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
He was gonna play? That was the craziest thing I
ever heard a forty year old player? Okay, why was
not logical? Why why would that be on the docket?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I think what Michael Jordan played every game is last year.
I'm just it's one of those things that it's got
to be something. But Michael wasn't forty years old. Okay,
remember he only played fourteen years. Here we go, though, Kelvin. Seriously,
Lebron James has let down the Lakers, Okay with this
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stunt that he's pulled here.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
And I don't know what he's going through the personal reasons.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I'm not trying to get into that, but this guy
has taken over the Lakers organization.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Jeanie bust for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I don't out there like they never had an empty seat,
but she feels like without Lebron, I guess that they
can't function. But here's my biggest issue, Kelvin Lebron got
his guy hired as coach. JJ Reddick. Say whatever you want,
all Lebron and podcast partner. Let's put JJ Reddick on
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display so everybody can say he's a basketball genius and
look at all he knows all this stuff about basketball,
all this other stuff. And he gets the Lakers to
draft his son so that he could play right on
the team with and then the kid. You thought, like
a lot of people, all you go down the G League,
No big deal, to a photo op. It'll be all over,
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go ahead, down and get better. No, he's on the team.
He's not traveling on the road with the G League team.
He's with the main club. He's not playing them just
for what why is he taking a roster spot? Okay,
and now he's not playing, he's on a sabbatical and
taking days off.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Like if you're injured, you're injured.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
But just to take off and be away from the
team is letting the team down. They need Lebron James.
They're not rolling, you know what I mean. Like even
with Lebron, and he's been playing well except for that
really bad eight games or whatever it was, six games
that stretch his numbers are good, and he's stepping away
(24:08):
from the game, so he's not holding up to his
end of the bargain when the old when the franchise
bent over backwards for him, Darvinham, Okay, you got problem.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
You'll want him around.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Okay, we'll do to that, you guy, JJ Redick, your
podcast partner.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You really think a lot of JJ and all that. Okay,
we'll hire JJ.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
What you want, Bronni or whatever, he want us to
give him a fully guaranteed contract to instead of what
everybody else gets in the second round, Okay, we'll do
that too.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And now your ghost you're gone. And now all let's.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Talk about He's desperate to win a championship with Bronnie
and he wouldn't go to any other trade unless his
sons go.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Man, that's a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
If I'm the Lakers, I feel like I got betrayed
by Lebron, that Lebron sold me a bill of goods
and now he's ready to dip out the back door
with his kid in tow.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Rob Remind me to never have a rough personal week
or whatever. Even if I'm injured falling down the stairs,
I can't take a week off because everything else I
would have done you Like you know what, Rob G
and Alex, It's over for Kelvin because God forbid. Something
going on in life, and I need a week off,
a week, a week of eighty two games, a week
(25:23):
of playing until April, maybe May, maybe June, depending on
how far it goes. And I need a week the
same person who has given you his all, who gave
you a championship, who worked to get you to Western
College Finals, and it hasn't been great. I can understand
frustration with Laker fans. I can understand they thought we
would get more, we wanted more, but you know what
(25:44):
it was prior to Lebron. And this is one thing
I truly mean this. I need Laker fans to understanding,
Rob G. You're one of them.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It ain't perfect. You're dealing with a forty year old.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He's gonna he's gonna be tired, he's not gonna play
the best defense. And you know I'm a big fan,
but it's the fact. So let me tell you some
records you had prior to him. Twenty twenty three to
twenty fourteen, twenty seven games you won. The next year,
twenty one games you won the next year, seventeen games
you won. The next year, twenty six games you won.
(26:14):
So all of a sudden, the bron gets here and
it ain't been great. You ain't looking like the Warriors run.
But then get you won thirty seven, fifty two, forty two,
thirty three, forty three, forty seven. Like I said, you
went into the Western Conence finals, you won a championship,
You made the postseason a few times.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
In addition to that, it ain't been perfect. But again,
it ain't been.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Twenty seven, twenty one, seventeen, twenty six wins. It ain't
been getting the number two pick, Lonzo Ball, D'Angelo Russell,
brandon ingam cause you kept being a horrible team. At
least you've been relevant, at least you've made it in
the posts. At least you won a championship. I thought,
that's what it's all about, Flakers. So if a man
take a week off, rob come on now, one week.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Wait a minute, I'm nipping out for a month. No,
But the problem is he didn't just talk. You only
play eighty two games in the calendar year of three
hundred and sixty five days. You don't take off. Nobody
takes off this is your season. What do you mean
you're taking a week off? Hoo?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Give me the other guys who have taken a week off?
Who every single player in the NBA. No, they don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
They don't away from their this away from they give
you that away from there and go nineties away from
their team, not not sitting out away from the team.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
If Phil Jackson, stop making excuse for Lebron.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
No, it's not an excuse, it's a fact. If he
took a week off.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Okay, okay, it isn't optimal, there is.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
It's not what you love or desire.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
But I'm not gonna be like he let the team
down because they did he took one week off.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
You don't even believe it. Discovernent, I don't believe it.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
You do not walk the wall. They did for them.
They over backwards for Lebron. And you know what he did?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
What did he do? Rob? I don't want to say it,
but he bet the But he did he Rob?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
He didn't do right by the couple of games. All No, No,
why a couple the team? The team is in flux.
They need their captain and you know what they are saying.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
They also need as his old coach, his old friend,
as you mentioned, even mentioned he's gassed.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I appreciate. I'm actually glass and retire.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I'm tired gas. Jay N takes a minute off, get
out of there. Retire, you old, a forty year old
retire if you.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Can't play eighty two games. He's gassed from what? He
doesn't play defense? What is he gas from? He's gass
play defunt?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
But you just you can't just tell me he's putting
up having a good, solid season.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
You just said that, and he don't.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Play, but I mean, you don't play defense. He played
on one side of the court.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
But the man's forty years old, giving you twenty three
and fifty shooting, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
An empty They're empty.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
It's empty. They're sitting there at the AC right now.
So again, I'm not justifying that this is an amazing season.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Why would I do that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
It's not but the idea that the man took off
one week, a couple of games, and I'm gonna dam
put him in damnation.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It literally doesn't even make sense. And that's one thing
I totally want Laker for. I get it. It hasn't
been great. It hasn't been what you wanted, and you
want championships. You got one and you want that. I
totally with you. But again, when the end of Kobe,
and I know he was the guy here, So I'm
not comparing it because Kobe played his whole year, his
whole career here, But I'm just saying, look, man, it
(29:38):
was rough.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
It was a rough patch.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Twenty seven, twenty one, seventeen twenty six games you were winning.
This has been at least where you're at least in
this thing forty seven and thirty five. Last last year,
Lebron takes a couple of games off. I'm not about
to put him in damnation for that. Come on, stop it,
and God forbid. One day you'll be like, yo, man,
I'm going through some things. Yo, rob G I need
a week off, rob am I taking a week off.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Based on his email likes?
Speaker 5 (30:06):
God, rob not even taking the holiday off, thank you exactly,
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well, let's let's start here.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Uh. Time Magazine's Athlete of the Year was announced today. Yeah,
and it's Kaitlin Clark and you believe she was the
clear choice. And you have no issue with Time selecting
Kaitlyn Clark from the Indiana I got a fever and
I don't know what to do with it or know?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Is that the name of the team she plays for. Yeah, yeah,
don't act like you don't know. You know, you don't miss.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
A single w NBA game, let alone a Kaitlin Clark game.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Come on, I never missed a WNBA No, I never
lived watching, so I never miss it.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, I mean, you know, Look, there are a couple
of contenders, Like any year that you know, you could
say this person.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't try to steal my thumb to just talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I know, but the fact that I'm gonna tell you
it is to me, I think it was actually a
clear cut one in this case with Caitlyn Clark, what
she was able to do.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And you split it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Up a couple of ways for you to get Time,
magazine and anything. Typically it means you were great at
what you do, but also you brought another narrative to
this thing.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You brought a bigger storyline.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You did something globally or something that was bigger than
just simply your play. And that's what she did. So
first of all, you gotta go back. Remember she was
the darling of March Madness earlier this year, so she
was already that girl in college basketball. Women's college basketball
had everybody watching. The viewership was up in college the
(01:54):
ratings were up because of her games. She had people
talking in barbershops that never talk about women's basketball, ever
talk about women's basketball. And we were having this these conversations.
A shout out to Ada Reese and Juju Watkins a
part of this, really this nice group of young female
talented hoopers. But she was spearheading this. So now we
got us talking about college basketball. She balls on the tournament.
(02:17):
She's doing things we haven't seen a female hooper dude hidden,
just like we didn't really see men's until Steph Curry
a decade or so sooner. Then Rob, she took over college.
Now we go on the pros, and then she takes
over the pros. There's controversy in the pros. They're hitting
her around, they're pushing around, they're treating it like this.
This is dominating conversations. It's the lead on all the
(02:40):
debate shows that never happens.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Ever, you and Bruson are talking about women's college basketball,
women's WNBA, and then she starts like most people in
any sport, starts off a little slow, gets her feet under,
balls out, and starts to set of records. We're leading
the league and assists, hitting three points all over the place,
ends up being Rookie of the Year. And we have
(03:03):
conversations about not only the actual Olympics, but who doesn't
even make the Olympics and her she didn't even make
the Olympics, and she was the topic of conversation for
not even making the team, and people thought they were
crazy for keeping her off.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So to me, it was clear cut.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
When you look at the way she empowered the sport itself.
They get Charter jets, They got more than fifty four
million unique viewers, which is the most ever, the most
watched WNBA games on all networks. Where the game she played,
all that she broke, all the WNBA home attendance records.
She got me and the Washington girls we went and
saw a game here in La it sud the people.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Of Jersey for everybody that was the fun that was.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
The Cherry maggazine called me, yeah and they said that
the Washington.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Cus Yeah, okay. So you look at what they're set
to receive.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
The WNBA is set to receive two hundred million dollars
per year, which is up sixty million dollars, and she
is a large.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Reason for that.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
So I just think when I look at the economic
boom because of Kaitlyn Clark, the economic boom that affects
not just.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Herbert all of her, the league and the league as
a whole.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
The viewership that is going up dramatically because of her,
and not to mention she was Rookie of the Year
in a heck of a player.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I just think it's she could clearcut it is her.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
We've never experienced a WNBA of women's basketball boom like
this where its leading shows we're talking about it. So
to me, I think the choice was obvious and they
got it right now.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
They could not have been more wrong on this, and
Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Had an impact.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
But first of all, you mentioned a couple of things
which to me takes her out of it. She didn't
win a national championship this year as well as she
played in all the other eyeballs, and she wasn't even
on the Olympic team.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That's your Athlete of the Year. That makes no.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Sense to me because along with the other stuff, the
window dressing that people want to give Kaitlyn Clark. Can
we talk about Sho hal Tani, who in one year
Okay set the market with a seven hundred million dollar contract,
had a historic fifty to fifty year that no one
has ever done in the history of Major League Baseball
(05:11):
that's been around for one hundred and fifty years. May
I not thirty years like the WNBA, but one hundred
and fifty years and no one had ever done it.
And he capped it off with a World Series championship show.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Hal Tani was must see TV.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It. You could see it whenever the Dodgers were all nationally. Locally,
he was a phenomenon. You went yourself to spring training
and tell me when you went to Arizona, was there
not a cavalcade of unbelievable fans to get a glimpse
his jersey, everything about him. And all he did was
(05:54):
move forty miles away from where he was playing and transfer,
I heard made a transformation into where baseball was. And
if you want to talk about ratings, the two thousand
and four World Series between the Dodgers and the Yankees
average twelve point nine million in Japan alone.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Which is a world series record.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
So the combined ratings for LA and Japan twenty eight
point seven.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Million people per game.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Hands down, Shoe a Otani was the athlete of the Year.
The Time magazine got it wrong, and I know, Kaitlin,
there was a buzz, But how in the world could
have athletes sign a seven hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Go fifty to fifty for the first.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Time in a sport that's been around almost two hundred years,
win a World Series, and have unprecedented TV ratings in
two countries.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I mean, come, I'll tell you why showy as you've
heard me talk about and even defending him against you,
going up against him and Aaron Judge and all that
was spectacular. But this isn't a who is the actual
maybe best athlete, but rob What makes him phenomenal he
didn't even do.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
What makes him a unicorn is.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
That he hits and pitches, and he didn't even pitch
this year.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
He's done it. He was more of respect.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
He was more ReSpectacle the years prior to the last
couple of years because he was getting.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Winning twenty games and in fifty home runs and we
never seen if you.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I'm saying pitching in more to more than twenty games,
we had never seen this before. That's what made him
the unicorn. It was special to see this year. The
bigger argument could be made about baseball as a whole
then o Tani. Baseball as a whole had a mega year.
Baseball as a whole had better storylines. Baseball was more entertaining.
You had the Tigers out of nowhere, the Yankees and Dodgers,
(07:50):
Bolts make it to the World season, Oh my gosh,
the Mets, where did they come from?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
And all of a sudden you got Grimace becoming a thing.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So I would argue more than Otani, Baseball had a
bigger year. If you're gonna go in the rankings of
This Time magazine, I think it's Kaitlyn Clark, then Baseball,
then old Tani, and old Kaitlyn Clark is the most
casual fan or casual person conversation.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Everyone knows Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's that girl in the WNBA who's shooting all those
streets and doing this or causing condo.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Nobody knows show hal Time. A lot of people know
a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I just said a lot of people know show hal Tony,
but nobody. He didn't evoke conversations like this Tani did.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
He started the year with signing the contract that that
people can shaef.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
No, that's true. That was the start of it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And then it went to the fifty to fifty, which
nobody that was the big talk. Is he gonna get
fifty to fifty and then his Dodgers win.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
The World Series? This is the challenge, Rob Parkers, this
is the challenge talking to you. You love baseball, you
are baseball and you are MLB bro.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
So you in your echo chamber and.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Y'all get Tom You went Sean and Steve the Seger
and y'all get your little MLB on and you forget
a lot of people don't.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Necessarily. It's not that baseball is not good. No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
We had a This was an amazing time covering baseball,
best I've had in years. But what I mean is
Kyler Clark was starting controversy. She ain't as good as this.
She's only getting this because she's white. No, Angel Reese's start.
This was bigger than anything. This goes back to what
made bird and magic and all of these things.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
It involved race, involves in the money in earth. When
I laid she didn't win, she didn't make the Olympic,
nigga bit time actually.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Playing, but it happened the years astute of the year.
I told you it's you catched me more than just
the actual game.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
But he encompassed everything. I mean, Oh, Tony did everything.
Set set the market value on on salary, and.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
We passed it in the year.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
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Speaker 4 (10:10):
Rob G you want to jump in Bill Belichick is
going to be announced tomorrow, I guess as the new
head coach of North Carolina football, not basketball.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I'm just a football rob G. We got a little details. Yeah,
rob G's walking back there.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, but this is something we've it's been a few
days now and went from is he just throwing his
name out there?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
To you know, they really is just doing it?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Was serious at all? And now here we are They've agreed,
he's agreed and it's and it's actually happening.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
And all signs point to that four hundred page bible
that we were having fun with yesterday. All signs points
to we haven't heard anything different. All of those terms
are being met, including the coaching staff, which you guys
talked about on Friday. We go poach my boy, go
tech the boy pans So Matt Patricia's gonna be there.
His son, Steve Belichick will be leaving the University of
(11:01):
Washington become the assistant coach at UNC and the head
coach in waiting, which would make sense. Is because it's
been reported this deal is only a three year contract
for Bill Belichick. And I don't know about you, but
I don't know how many guys can turn around in
entire football program in three seasons, by the miss.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Not many, especially when you're not a football school.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I thought the Bible was going to be a doorstop
for the school president, but apparently not so. Bill Belichick
is making this move, and Kelvin.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Here we go. Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
To me, this is a clear sign of Bill Belichick
picking nepotism over a chance at NFL history. It's pretty
simple to me. He ain't going to some college football powerhouse.
He ain't getting paid a gazillion dollars ten million of years. Nice,
but it ain't a gazillion dollars where you couldn't pass
(11:55):
up the money. And when I look at this, because
we know the caveat buried not in the language, of course,
of the contract, but that his son Steve will be
the head coach in waiting after Bill steps aside, this
is about nepotism.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And I've said this. I didn't like it when Lebron
did it.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I've never liked it. I don't care who's at the
end of it. It's a bad plague, especially the NFL. Kelvin,
so many issues, in so many stories have been written
about nepotism in the NFL and the reason that it's
always been hard for minorities and black coaches to get in.
(12:36):
Because here's a couple numbers, and this comes back from
a two thousand and two article in USA Today. Of
the seven hundred and seventeen on field coaches this season,
at least ninety three thirteen percent have a father, son,
or brother who is a current or former NFL coach.
Of the ninety three coaches with connections, seventy six percent
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seventy six which is eighty two percent of white and
make up nearly one fifth of the league's white coaching.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Force.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Meanwhile, five point four coaches of color have a family
connection and seven head coaches, six white or either the
son or father of a former NFL coach.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
And so here is Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Who has a chance, a real chance of passing Don
Shuler as the all time winning his coach, or I
should say, with the most wins in the history of
the NFL at three hundred and twenty eight is what
Don Schuler has. Bill Belichick is twenty six behind. George
Hallis is second Kelvin at three eighteen. And I looked
(13:47):
at the math, it ain't like it's impossible nine and
seven a couple years, a ten win season, one to
ten or eleven win season.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
All he has to do is.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Go eight or win eight or nine games or something
like that in time, and he would have a real shot.
Say if he took over the Cowboys or something or
whatever whatever, that would be a real possibility. So instead
of trying to do that and put your name in
the record books, he wants to set his son up.
(14:19):
And this is what I look at this deal as
North Carolina no football history. He's not turning this program
around nil talk about being outdated. This is like Fred
Flintstone buying a car that travels with wheels and he
(14:39):
doesn't have to power with his foot with his feet.
I just don't see this as a match. I think
this is terrible. And the nepotism drips from.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
This a lot to dissect. And you definitely you was
fired up about some Bill Belichick man. I almost had
to come over there and get you one of his hoodies.
All right, So let's start with this. There is I'm weird,
not weird, but there's a small connection I'll say between
he and UNC that his father was a coach there
for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Back in the fifties. Uh, he was a running back coach.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So there's some connection to some lineage if you will
to that my dad coach here, now, I'll coach here,
and then maybe my son will coach here now. So
we have some type of this is what we do.
We coach at UNC. So there's that. What also, the nepotism,
it's not that when we when we have these conversations,
it's not that this needs to be in a perfect world,
but it's the world we live in. So when I
(15:31):
talk about it is it's happening. It's always existed. And
I think to your point about talking about African American
coaches and former players or whatnot. That's why with Ron,
I'm okay with it. Maybe we need to flex it more,
Maybe we need to get our nepotism on if that's
what it takes. It's not what you know, it's who
you know. So they're not the only issue I have
with this. And I'm gonna push back on.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
This is you got to take Lebron as the all
time top one of the top players.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
It ain't.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
It ain't like top point, every top, every top white
coaches getting their son or their cousin in and that's
the difference.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We don't right. So that's why I don't buy in, right.
But that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
So when you get the like, for instance, the NBA
now is full of former players sons, which are going
to lead to more connections, right, whether they become head coaches,
whether they become uh broadcasters like us. Where they become
and then they bring in their friends, their family, their sons,
and it starts to happen like that, where you start
to be able to populate it with some people.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I don't think we have that same when we get
hired a job, right'.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I don't believe. I agree.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I don't currently I agree, but I'm saying the only
way to try to change it is to try and
change it. That's why Lebron having his whole crew everybody
grew up with put you in power over here, Maverick
Card over here, Rich Paul over here. I love it
because again you're populating with more people, a diverse group
of individuals. I'm with that, but keeping going, this is
starting to if there was any hope, Rob that amateurism
(16:54):
still existed in college football, that there was some little
hope people say, it's all about the game and college
at a fleet. It's not about being pros and money.
It's gone. He has literally said in his Book of Bible,
the bill of Book of Bible that they subscribe to,
he said, I need players to get played, I need
minimum salaries. I need to like this. Literally, I'm telling
(17:14):
you pay these players this. It's going to be a
system of how they're paid. And I want that and
you have to agree to it. And apparently they're going
to it's turning into IMG Sports Academy, where if you're
the best high school players in the country, you go
to IMNG.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
We'll school it up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, but you're here to become a college athlete and
also probably a pro. That's what IMG Academy is. Will
timmy who's trying his hardest, if he ain't good enough,
he ain't coming here. We only want the guys and
gals we know were putting up in college potentially pro.
So this is becoming a farm system to the NFL.
Now it'll be interesting to see if players like this.
(17:51):
Do players get greedy? Yeah, you guarantee me this money.
It ain't enough. It ain't enough. And will this experiment
ultimately work but also Robbie made me think, did the
NFL not subscribe to the Bill Belichick Bible?
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Did they say, yeah, we want you to coach, but
I don't want.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You to coach for the Fox Sports shout out to us,
out to Fox Sports. We want you to coach, but
we don't want you to have all the power. We
don't want you to dictate Matt Patrice who has to
come in. Your son has to take over the you know,
become the coach of once you leave. And I'm wondering
that the NFL said, yeah, sure's a few teams who
on my interview and you and have you position. But
like the Atlanta Falcons last year, we heard he wanted
(18:28):
everything and they're like, all right, hold on, are you
doing too much?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
And I'm wondering if this is out time out for
the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It started off all right, didn't Kirk Obangs was now
he is he is Kurky Organizations.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm gonna say you go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Kurk doesn't want because yeah, but I'm thinking the NFL said, hey,
here's an opportunity. Here's what we're here's what we're willing
to extend and give you we're not giving you all control.
We're not giving you let you decide. Isn't just about control.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I hear you. The reason he took this job is
about his kid. Let's just be that's part of the control.
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Also, give my kid a son, right, that is control,
Meaning you couldn't go to the Falcons or say, uh,
the Panthers and say I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna
do this. Oh and by the way, give my kid
this head coach. They're gonna be all right. You're doing
too much now, So I think that's I'm agreeing that
that's a massive part of this. I want to control
everything about the organization, the program and control its destiny
once I leave. And guess what he got it. And
(19:22):
the last point is you talked about winning. Look, if
he doesn't beat Don Shula, everybody knows he's the greatest
football coach. Is specifically anfl like whether he wat the
record or not, I agree that in a person.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Don Shula never had a cheating scandal when he was coaching.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You. Honestly, Rob, you're the only one who cares about that. Like, seriously,
nobody cares. Is that why Robert Crafts in the Hall
of I said, the coach, Okay, I'm just coach, and
you know what he's gonna He's gonna be owns the team.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
He's But yeah, but we talk about coach.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You just talked about it the other day that this
should be a different thing getting in the Hall of Fame,
Like it should be the folks who vote on the players.
And that's that. Uh, Rob, Robert Kraft owns a team.
He didn't necessarily get down there and coach on the
day to day.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
He wasn't. John Jones, Jerry Jones is the owner of owners.
I'm not, but they were all the owners in it. Joe,
I hear you. And the cheat. It's never gonna affect
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
It's never gonna affect Tom Brady's got a quarter of
a billion dollars to be on TV every day in
our face. It's not gonna affect he or Bill Belichick.
Just you just gotta get over that, my brother. It
is not going to But it'll be interesting to see
how long he says three year deal. Will he do
three years? I don't know if he's going to commit
to that. I don't have it really going past two years.
But uh, this might change the game as far as
(20:37):
X coaches in the NFL coming into these programs saying
give me all the power, give me all the money,
and I'll turn this thing around. We'll see if that's
what this starts to become even more making the making
college even more professional.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Just a pre professional is what it'll be.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
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Speaker 4 (21:02):
Rob Ge, can you give us an update about your
favorite basketball team, the Los Angeles Lakers and your guy,
Lebron James, who's not with the team personal reasons, as
coach JJ Reddick has said, and there's more.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Yeah, Rob, The updates are not good if you're a
Lakers fan because despite being off for about a week now,
including as you mentioned, two personal days away from the team,
which we don't know what they're for, whether injury, emotional, mental,
We have no idea at this point, has already been
declared out for tomorrow's game against the Minnesota Timberwolves, and
(21:39):
the company line Rob and Kelvin is that he's just
gassed he needs a rest, he needs to recuperate, you know,
to finish off the rest of the calendar year.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
And this was the guy who they can't JJ and
him came in with the plan he was gonna play
every game this year?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Was that the plan?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
He was gonna play? That was the craziest thing I
ever heard a forty year old player? Okay, why was
not logical? Why why would that be on the docket?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I think what Michael Jordan played every game is last year.
I'm just it's one of those things that it's got
to be something. But Michael wasn't forty years old. Okay,
remember he only played fourteen years. Here we go, though, Kelvin. Seriously,
Lebron James has let down the Lakers, Okay with this
(22:30):
stunt that he's pulled here.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
And I don't know what he's going through the personal reasons.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I'm not trying to get into that, but this guy
has taken over the Lakers organization.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Jeanie bust for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I don't out there like they never had an empty seat,
but she feels like without Lebron, I guess that they
can't function. But here's my biggest issue, Kelvin Lebron got
his guy hired as coach. JJ Reddick. Say whatever you want,
all Lebron and podcast partner. Let's put JJ Reddick on
(23:04):
display so everybody can say he's a basketball genius and
look at all he knows all this stuff about basketball,
all this other stuff. And he gets the Lakers to
draft his son so that he could play right on
the team with and then the kid. You thought, like
a lot of people, all you go down the G League,
No big deal, to a photo op. It'll be all over,
(23:26):
go ahead, down and get better. No, he's on the team.
He's not traveling on the road with the G League team.
He's with the main club. He's not playing them just
for what why is he taking a roster spot? Okay,
and now he's not playing, he's on a sabbatical and
taking days off.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Like if you're injured, you're injured.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
But just to take off and be away from the
team is letting the team down. They need Lebron James.
They're not rolling, you know what I mean. Like even
with Lebron, and he's been playing well except for that
really bad eight games or whatever it was, six games
that stretch his numbers are good, and he's stepping away
(24:08):
from the game, so he's not holding up to his
end of the bargain when the old when the franchise
bent over backwards for him, Darvinham, Okay, you got problem.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
You'll want him around.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Okay, we'll do to that, you guy, JJ Redick, your
podcast partner.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You really think a lot of JJ and all that. Okay,
we'll hire JJ.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
What you want, Bronni or whatever, he want us to
give him a fully guaranteed contract to instead of what
everybody else gets in the second round, Okay, we'll do
that too.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And now your ghost you're gone. And now all let's.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Talk about He's desperate to win a championship with Bronnie
and he wouldn't go to any other trade unless his
sons go.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Man, that's a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
If I'm the Lakers, I feel like I got betrayed
by Lebron, that Lebron sold me a bill of goods
and now he's ready to dip out the back door
with his kid in tow.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Rob Remind me to never have a rough personal week
or whatever. Even if I'm injured falling down the stairs,
I can't take a week off because everything else I
would have done you Like you know what, Rob G
and Alex, It's over for Kelvin because God forbid. Something
going on in life, and I need a week off,
a week, a week of eighty two games, a week
(25:23):
of playing until April, maybe May, maybe June, depending on
how far it goes. And I need a week the
same person who has given you his all, who gave
you a championship, who worked to get you to Western
College Finals, and it hasn't been great. I can understand
frustration with Laker fans. I can understand they thought we
would get more, we wanted more, but you know what
(25:44):
it was prior to Lebron. And this is one thing
I truly mean this. I need Laker fans to understanding,
Rob G. You're one of them.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It ain't perfect. You're dealing with a forty year old.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He's gonna he's gonna be tired, he's not gonna play
the best defense. And you know I'm a big fan,
but it's the fact. So let me tell you some
records you had prior to him. Twenty twenty three to
twenty fourteen, twenty seven games you won. The next year,
twenty one games you won the next year, seventeen games
you won. The next year, twenty six games you won.
(26:14):
So all of a sudden, the bron gets here and
it ain't been great. You ain't looking like the Warriors run.
But then get you won thirty seven, fifty two, forty two,
thirty three, forty three, forty seven. Like I said, you
went into the Western Conence finals, you won a championship,
You made the postseason a few times.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
In addition to that, it ain't been perfect. But again,
it ain't been.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Twenty seven, twenty one, seventeen, twenty six wins. It ain't
been getting the number two pick, Lonzo Ball, D'Angelo Russell,
brandon ingam cause you kept being a horrible team. At
least you've been relevant, at least you've made it in
the posts. At least you won a championship. I thought,
that's what it's all about, Flakers. So if a man
take a week off, rob come on now, one week.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Wait a minute, I'm nipping out for a month. No,
But the problem is he didn't just talk. You only
play eighty two games in the calendar year of three
hundred and sixty five days. You don't take off. Nobody
takes off this is your season. What do you mean
you're taking a week off? Hoo?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Give me the other guys who have taken a week off?
Who every single player in the NBA. No, they don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
They don't away from their this away from they give
you that away from there and go nineties away from
their team, not not sitting out away from the team.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
If Phil Jackson, stop making excuse for Lebron.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
No, it's not an excuse, it's a fact. If he
took a week off.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Okay, okay, it isn't optimal, there is.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
It's not what you love or desire.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
But I'm not gonna be like he let the team
down because they did he took one week off.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
You don't even believe it. Discovernent, I don't believe it.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
You do not walk the wall. They did for them.
They over backwards for Lebron. And you know what he did?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
What did he do? Rob? I don't want to say it,
but he bet the But he did he Rob?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
He didn't do right by the couple of games. All No, No,
why a couple the team? The team is in flux.
They need their captain and you know what they are saying.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
They also need as his old coach, his old friend,
as you mentioned, even mentioned he's gassed.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I appreciate. I'm actually glass and retire.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I'm tired gas. Jay N takes a minute off, get
out of there. Retire, you old, a forty year old
retire if you.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Can't play eighty two games. He's gassed from what? He
doesn't play defense? What is he gas from? He's gass
play defunt?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
But you just you can't just tell me he's putting
up having a good, solid season.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
You just said that, and he don't.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Play, but I mean, you don't play defense. He played
on one side of the court.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
But the man's forty years old, giving you twenty three
and fifty shooting, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
An empty They're empty.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
It's empty. They're sitting there at the AC right now.
So again, I'm not justifying that this is an amazing season.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Why would I do that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
It's not but the idea that the man took off
one week, a couple of games, and I'm gonna dam
put him in damnation.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It literally doesn't even make sense. And that's one thing
I totally want Laker for. I get it. It hasn't
been great. It hasn't been what you wanted, and you
want championships. You got one and you want that. I
totally with you. But again, when the end of Kobe,
and I know he was the guy here, So I'm
not comparing it because Kobe played his whole year, his
whole career here, But I'm just saying, look, man, it
(29:38):
was rough.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
It was a rough patch.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Twenty seven, twenty one, seventeen twenty six games you were winning.
This has been at least where you're at least in
this thing forty seven and thirty five. Last last year,
Lebron takes a couple of games off. I'm not about
to put him in damnation for that. Come on, stop it,
and God forbid. One day you'll be like, yo, man,
I'm going through some things. Yo, rob G I need
a week off, rob am I taking a week off.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Based on his email likes?
Speaker 5 (30:06):
God, rob not even taking the holiday off, thank you exactly,
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