December 19, 2024 • 37 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend hosts Arnie Spanier and Martin Weiss are in for Rob and Kelvin, and the guys tell us if Sammy Sosa publicly apologizing for using PEDs is all that big of a deal anymore and discuss if the Georgia Bulldogs have what it takes to win the national championship without their QB1. Plus, FOX Sports broadcaster Tim Brando swings by to discuss a few of the biggest college football and college basketball headlines.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:53):
Parker and Kelvin Washington on a busy Thursday. By the way, Martin,
any big plans for Christmas, go anywhere out of town
or just hanging in there.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I will be posted up chilling out here in Los Angeles,
California with my feet up.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Worst place to be for Christmas, Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
We had worst place.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, that just doesn't give you the Christmas feeling. You're
a detroit guy, aren't you you know what it is
like the holidays.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
You're one of these, Yeah, you're one of these. You
need your Christmas to be conditional.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Oh, if it's not.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Snowing, if it's not cold, is it even really Christmas?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Of course it is.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
We're getting snow on Christmas Eve out here in Vermont,
So I like that though. I like when there's snow
on the ground. We had a little snow today. I
like when it's snowing during the holidays.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I'm old enough to remember Thanksgiving when the car, when
your car was stuck in the snow, when you had
to have your wife bail you out because you didn't
have the right shoes on as.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Happy Holidays to you, missus Spaniard.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah I was. I did get stuck in that. That
was the first snowfall too. I wasn't ready. You know
what the problem is. I have a Jeep too. I
didn't have an in four wheel drive.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
That was my mistake.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't even know how to really drive it, to
be honest with you, I just wanted a Jeep.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I didn't even look at I don't even know the
difference between four h and two h and four L.
I couldn't even.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
He just wanted a jeep. It's a jeep thing.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Into four L or whatever that's called. And I just
went driving around. I don't know what I'm driving around then,
but that's yeah. I got stuck in the snow, and yeah,
that was a horrible day. Thanks for bringing that up.
I do, I do bring that. But it's good when
you're just sitting at home sipping hot chocolate watching the
snow come down for the holidays, then it's good stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Now, sure, but you also, I'll watch that on TV.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
He just he just go ahead and check it out
on TV. Tim Branda will join us at the bottom
of the hour. Obviously, a lot of college football to
get to and it all starts tomorrow. I can't wait.
Three great games. I think Penn State's gonna wallops, and
you will get to that a little bit later on.
I want to talk about the Sammy Sosa apology, which
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I thought I was actually gonna lead the show with.
I thought this was like the biggest thing in sports.
After all these years, we finally get an apology. I
couldn't believe it. Sammy Sosa apologized, said he took steroids
because you know he had the heel. It was one
hundred and sixty two game season producer Rob you you
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had it like what listed as like the ninetieth story today.
You had it like under miscellaneous. I had to, you know,
scour all the topics today just to find it. Was like,
no big deal for you, right, you didn't care much
about it?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
No, because you know, the odd couple's a brand name
like Coca Cola or Xerox, and you know, talking about
Sammy Sosa and him using pds if we all knew
he did, you know, isn't as high in the priority
list for us.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I but I thought that was a big thing. Though.
I think we finally got an answer to this.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
You did you did you when you heard it were
You're like, oh my god, finally Sammy Sosa comes clean.
I can't believe we got an apology. This is incredible.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Alrighty, I'll be honest with you. Maybe it's a generational.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Thing, but yeah, when you sent me your handwritten photo
of the rundown, yes, and I scrolled it. I say scroll,
stand with my eyes because there is no scroll on
the legal pad.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I at the Google Soso apology to see who you
were talking about. Wow, I was, I was legitimately, I
don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I know who Sammy Sosa is, right right, Well, familiar
with the Chicago comes in the story. All I'm saying
is I had so little of notice that this happened
today that when I said, Soco apologize, so well.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
This could be anything. Did ed your Sosa from.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Louisville basketball fifteen years ago apologize for ripping off Michigan
in that National championship game?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Well, what are we talking about? You know? Oh, Sammy Sosa.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oh, I want people to tweet us at Martin Wise,
that stinking genius one. I don't think people remember we've
kept people out of the Hall of Fame for steroid use.
We've called them cheaters. We had him in front of Congress,
we had people wagging their finger. I did not use steroids.
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It was a big story back then.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
This was so I'm not debating that and saying it's
not a big story.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
But part of the reason.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Why this apology I don't think is resonating with Rob
G and me.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
The way its resonating with you is Rob G. I'm
speaking for you as well here.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
But we always thought Sammy Socid was doing his pedes,
so it's like, oh, yeah, no kidding. The sun comes
up in the east, like yeah, we knew they like
we knew that this was happening. So it's when he
gets to the apology, and I guess, you know, it's
all cool to be a good moment when he can
go back and shake hands and Wrigley Field and you know,
the exile.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
From the Cubs is over.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
But Rob, Rob g Rob Parker is a baseball guy.
You must have talked to him today. He was just
like you know, all over the Sammy's Socials story.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Was he not or what when I talked to him? No,
But let me just say about this story as we
are talking about it. Maybe that's wise, but I think
him coming clean is like the footnote in the story.
The story to me is that this all stems from
the Chicago Cubs saying we are not going to invite
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you to this you know fan fest. What was that
we're doing unless we get some kind of apology for
the you know, public schmearing you did of our brand
during that era, because we all knew you were on
Royd's and it was a bad look for us that
the face of our franchise was not clean. And I
think that is the biggest croc that I have heard
in a long long time, because everybody knows if you
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were alive in watching sports during that time in the nineties,
that baseball, to put it in my lead, was dead
or dying.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yes, oh strike it was a low.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
It was a down period, and Mark McGuire and Sammy
Sosa saved baseball. They were juiced up to the gills.
They were on things that you know, was and dinner whatever.
The one that McGuire that he wasn't even hiding.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Remember he was.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
In his lockers right there, right behind him like he
was promoting it, and everybody knew that they were on
that stuff. But the chase to seventy or to sixty
one was all anybody cared about. Like, man, these guys
are hitting dingers like every four at bats. I can't
miss these games. I gotta watch it. And so for
this it used to be used absolutely, and so for
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the Chicago Cubs to be this level of hypocritical, to
be like, hey, you made us look bad when the
only reason people cared about you and your sport in
general was because of what he was doing.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
So for them to the Madden apology, I thought was.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
It's almost like if the Warriors were demanding apology for
Steph Curry for load management, Like you all know this
was happening, and kind him were like wing wig, we
don't mind so much as long as you keep on
bringing in the dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was, you know, and I agree with Rob g
this was I mean, everybody knew he was on this,
but back then we wanted blood. We wanted him out
of baseball, not just Sammy, everybody that used steroids or
performance enhancing drugs. We wanted to call them cheaters. We
wanted to give them the scarlet letter. We want everything
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bad about them. Notice how time has changed everything. Is
there anybody still out there that says these guys are
still cheaters and Bond should be left out of the
Hall of Fame? What about Bonds? I mean, is he
gonna write a letter about this? Also? He should be.
I mean he's one of the greatest too.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I mean maybe he should because I think the maybe
and I think part of it is aren't he like maybe?
I was like full disclosure. I saw some of those
cut ins as well. They were just on nick like
Nickelodeon at the time. Like legitimately I remember seeing sammy'ssam
Marbla guire on Nickelodeon. But that's the age I was
when this was happening, So like I didn't have the
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anger in the venom and all that when it turned
out that on him and Caseinko and Bonds and whoever
was already get in trouble. And honestly, this is a
I know, the odd couples of brand. What do you say,
like like Xerox co Cola, Xerox and Coca Cola. So
I apologize, but I hold baseball writers to task much
more than I hold baseball players to task because every
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if everybody knew that everybody was juicing, why weren't they
writing about it in the moment?
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Is all this stuff comes on after the fact. All
this stuff comes up way like you know now all
of a sudden, but everybody knew and it was just unspoked. Well,
I mean, look, if Lebron's been taking acas for the
last six years, I would like to know about it.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Well, the question is this, guys, how much cheating went
on in baseball? How much cheating still goes on to
I mean, if they found the way to still you know,
bypass all the testing out there, how much cheating just
goes on in sports? How about that? How much cheating
does does it go on? And in all sports out there?
Not only with performance enhancing drugs, you know other little
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stuff too, where maybe you're putting something inside your glove
or you have a foreign substance on there to get
a better grip of the baseball or or something to
that effect. You tell me, is there's still a lot
of cheating that goes on in sports or what?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Absolutely, But I think cheating is too strong of a term.
I think if you're looking at people who directly take
the rulebook and violate it, I think that happens very
very rarely. But I think if they say, oh, you
know what, there's a loophole here that I can exploit,
I think that happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Chet's cheating.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
But I think it's against the spirit of the rules,
right like it's you can have something that's not cheating
but is also against the spirit of the rules at
the same time. And I think that happens a lot
more frequent.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
And I think what makes this specific story, you know,
to bring it back full circle. What makes it such
a different conversation is Sammy Sosa, Ark McGuire, Roger Clamens.
They weren't the only guys on ped now. That's why
it's called.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
The ped era, the steroids era. Everybody was doing it.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
So if everybody, if you look at it in that regard,
they're on an equal playing field, because it's not like
if you say today, you know, hypothetically everybody today is clean,
then it's an equal playing field. If back in the
nineties everybody's on royds, then it is an equal playing field.
And you can't, you know, judge one guy and not
the other, or one era and not the other when like,
(11:31):
I don't even view it as cheating if it was
that widespread anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Right, right, And I don't think that's the reason why. Now,
maybe it helped them a little bit, but they're all
still great players. They didn't hit seventy plus home runs
because they were on performance enhancing drugs. They had to
get healthy. Big on peds doesn't help you hit a curveball, okay,
cause if it did, I would be taking it and
going out there batting three hundred and hitting fifty home runs.
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But that doesn't it doesn't make could do that. Some
pills make people get better, some don't. All right before
buttinanti drugs, it really is about healing, not so much
about how far you're getting hit a baseball it's.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Their recovery, is that they're kinding.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
In a sport like baseball, where you're playing one hundred
and sixty two games over what one hundred and seventy
five days, you need that recovery more than any I think, not.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
More than any of the sporkers.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Footballs are so violent, but just the day in day out,
no sport has attacks like baseball.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I think we're gonna get to the point now, guys
where they're gonna have to do eighty one games in
eighty one games for baseball. The reason I bring that
up is because after eighty one games, if you already
clinched the spot in the playoffs, maybe you could rest
some of your superstars in the second half of the season.
You maybe play some of your youngsters.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
That way, you can't having one hundred and sixty two games.
That's just murderous. You're just it's just too tough. Nowadays,
I think you'd have to have the split season teas
up ease up some of the workload out there.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Why is it tougher nowadays than it was back in
the day, Like this is base Baseball is not one
of those sports where I'd say, oh man, the athletes
are so much bigger, stronger, faster, it causes more pain
on my joints. Like baseball still played the same save
for the pitchers. But who decided they have to throw
one hundred miles an hour every pitch?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Baseball the sport and the rules and all that haven't changed,
and say pitch clock, in size of base and so on,
But what's valued? And like spin rate and like the
ability to calculate that level of torque. I heard people
I'm smarter baseball people than me talking about This is
where I'm stealing this take from.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
But the sin like different.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
The way that the analytics has influenced spin rate and
exitive velocity and so all these things. It forces now
athletes as they're coming up the up the pipeline to
get to the majors.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
That's what scouts are looking for.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
So you got kids younger and younger trying to do
things that they shouldn't be doing until they become adults.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Because that's fair because the danger on.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
But they're they're pitching a lot less. Also, I mean
nowadays starters only go four innings right then after that is,
but I'm.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Throwing as hard as they can for four innings.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's fine though no one Ryan was throwing as hard
as he can't freight ye.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
But like if you, I know, you watch a lot
of baseball, and we have to baseball here, like you
will listen to Greg Maddox talk. You listened to you know,
uh verd Landers most famous hit of this season. He's like,
when I came up, I had to know, Hey, I
gotta go seven innings in this one. I can't be
throwing one hundred and one hundred and two in the
second inning. I gotta ramp myself up. I gotta save
some energy. I gotta be able to have my stuff
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working to and get through the whole game. Nowadays, what
Martin is saying, there's saying, hey, you you're only going
four innings, Throw as hard as you can with as
much torque, as much spin as possible, and what about
the rest later? And that's why Tommy Johns are tough
right now.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
It's like telling an NBA player play like it's two
minutes left in a tie game, in the fourth quarter,
in the playoffs, every single minute you're on the court.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Why you just can't your blow attire?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
You're right, and like I said, nowadays start Can you
imagine back in the day they have starting pitches that
we went for inning should be thrown out of baseball?
He said, get out of here. You know you're going
to the bullpen. You're gonna be a reliever. We don't
need your type, that's for sure. Martin Wise, Arney Spani're
in for the guys to night, Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington.
We're gonna come back. Let's get a little bit into
(15:17):
the college playoff and start looking into the NFL Week
sixteen plus Timmy b Tim Brando will join us at
the bottom of the hour. All that coming up next
right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 3 (15:41):
All Right, good evening, everybody, Martin wis, Arney Spaniar in
for the guys night, Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington. You
want to be part of the show. Twitter is the
best way at Martin wise, I'm it stinking genius one.
Like Overnight Joe, I want to wrap it up with
his tweet that said Mark maguire and Sammy Sosa should
be in the Hall of Fame. They both save Bass
and McGuire plus was great to the Maris family. So
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one hundred percent right on that. I agree one hundred
percent with Overnight Joe. Tim Brando. By the way, at
the bottom of the hour, we'll get this. Some of
the bowl games out there, Martin, do you care about
any of these bowl games? I mean, now with the
twelve team playoff, these other bowl games are more insignificant
than ever right now.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Yeah they are. I still care. I still care, but
not in the way that I used to.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Like I used to be locked in watch every bowl
from the New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Bowl all the way to the Nasha Championship.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I'm not gonna be the same. It doesn't quite have
the same feeling, the same luster. But I would say
I am excited about the college football Playoff though, like
while it had a unique postseason beforehand, I do think
the playoff is gonna be cool.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Oh I think so. Also, real quick. Not very many
people are going to these bowl games either. I'm not
talking about the playoffs. I'm just talking about these regular
bowl games. They're not traveling. It costs a lot of money.
They're not really going to do that, so I and
you can't see it, but they don't really show the crowd. Eventually,
they're gonna have to really think about getting rid of
these other bowl games and just maybe expand the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, but I don't want to get. What I don't
want to see is march madness. Like I don't think
we should do that. I think there's too many football
games being played, so they have to figure out some
level of something to do. So we could have the
sport with probably the largest, the largest like base of
just participants when you think of college football or college basketball,
probably is a much more much bigger, but you know,
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one of the larger ones you're trying to put together
this postseason playing for I don't want to see like
a sixteen team playoff a twenty fourth teams.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I would like to see sixteen. I would do sixteen, yes,
give me that. That way there was no buy instead
of the four teams getting a BUYE one through sixteen.
No problems with that. We're not gonna have two teams
that get a buy that that shouldn't get a buy.
I think eventually it has to be one through sixteen.
That's what I want to see, Martin. I would love
to go ahead and have that.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I'd like to see one through eight honestly, but I
know that's not happened.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
I know we're never going back.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I'm gonna if I had it by way, If I
had it my way, Arnie, I would have had the
Power five conference championships automatically get bids, and then you
have three at large eighteen playoff and you know, we
still have college football as we used to know, but
now we're moving into this bachelardized version.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
But hell, you know what, at least the playoff is interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Though.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I can't lie. I'm excited for tomorrow. I'm excited to watch.
I mean think about this, Arnie, though. And in reality,
we have teams like Indiana SMU are playing for the
opportunity to win the national Chami, Arizona, State, Arizona, you
name it. That would never have happened in the other format.
I also just don't need to see like Eastern Michigan here, Well.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
What about what Eastern Michigan's not there? And they won't
be there if it the top sixteen. But who may
be there and we just found this out could be
an eye IVY League team. Would you be okay if
a Yale or Harvard or Prince I don't even know
who's good in the IVY League, Brown, I don't even
know who's the good teams in the IVY League. But
I do think it's kind of good that they're gonna
be in D one, you know, I.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Mean, I think it would be good to be in
D one.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
But you know, just like I get mad at the
nerds on Twitter for talking about sports too much and
adding exit v low and spin rateing and you know,
usage rate and all this other stupid stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Like is he good?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Is he not?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I'll have the same feeling probably if we see one
of these teams really getting a shot, like a one
game shot to play for a national time.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Well, I mean, forget if they go through a sixteen
team playoff. They have all the right like any other team.
But let's get out to what's going on at all
starts tomorrow. First of all, what do you think of
the format one on Friday, three on Saturday. Kind of
like that gives you something to just kind of get
an appetizer on Friday night and then we'll full fledged.
But we're going up against the NFL on Saturday. They
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got a couple of games. Be interesting to see how
the ratings come out for the games that are up
against the NFL.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
They will get crushed. It will be a demoel. It
will be demolition.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
And I don't I don't understand why other leagues don't
understand that there's only a hint, like Arnie. Legitimately, if
you really think about it, the thing that keeps cable
TV alive right now is the NFL. The thing that
keeps television as we know it appointment viewing television is
the NFL.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Why would you ever go up against it?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Why do you have to have steak every night? If
you love steak, couldn't you pass on these Steelers Ravens
for one time in order to watch Clemson Texas in
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Ernie, let me put it to you like this.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yes, it's been a while, I imagine since you were
bar hopping on a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
But let's just last night.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
So let's say every night, or I said, every Tuesday
and Thursday night, there's the biggest guy in the bar,
and that guy always is starting to fight. But if Wednesday,
Friday and Saturday you go, you're the biggest guy at
the bar and you're not even a Friday you over there,
you're trying to talk to the leagues, right, So which.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Days would you go?
Speaker 7 (21:08):
On?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Tuesdays and Thursdays?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
That's his bar on Wednesday, Friday is Saturdays, it's yours.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
So I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I don't need to see the NFL every day. I
don't even need to see the NFL quite honestly on Thursdays.
But if I was planning something to put on television,
ain't no way in hell I will put it up
against an NFL game.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
But that's your day to begin with. Though Saturdays are
college football day. It's the NFL's you know, intruding on
college football right now.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
I mean it used to be.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
So what did you want them to do? Put all
the games on Friday on Friday December twentieth? They just
play them that day or what? No, that's not going
to give you optimal ratings. I promise you that, No,
it's not. But I would have liked this scene. I
just know, I don't know how you figure it out.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Maybe you have a conversation with the NFL, especially with
Christmas being this week right, like how can we adjust
this schedule maybe have a higher level of games on
Christmas than you do otherwise. But I just know, if
you want somebody to watch some all TV and it's
not politics or the NFL, you better not be going
up against politics of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
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Or we'll come back. We'll talk to TIMMYB. Tim Brando,
Fox Sports radio broadcaster. We'll talk about the college games.
We'll see what Timm B has to say. First off,
let's see what's trending.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
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I want to get right to our guests. One of
my favorite people in the world. Just absolutely love this guy.
Used to work with him in Chicago. Nobody knows college
football or college sports better than our next guest. It's
our buddy, Tim Brando. How you doing, Timmy B? Or
maybe he doesn't like me so much, Martin. I don't
know what to tell you out there.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Maybe I'm personal.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Hey, Timmy B. How you doing, my friend?
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I'm great, sticker genius. How are you?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I'm doing great. It's so good to reconnect with you.
It's been such a long long time. And first of all,
how excited are you for this twelve team playoff? How
great is this right now?
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Oh man, I'm I'm I'm loving it. But with the
possible exception of the first game being on opposite my
basketball game on Fox tomorrow, I would prefer I would
prefer of Indiana Notre Dame. We're starting a few hours
earlier or a few hours later, but I've got Providence
and St. John. You a pretty good basketball game opposite it.
(23:58):
On Fox tomorrow. It's history. Though, to be specific to
your question, Arnie, I mean it's history. It's flat out
big time history. I was talking to Sean McDonough earlier
this week. He's a dear friend, somebody I've known forever.
We're contemporaries, and he's gonna call the game with Greg McElroy.
And I think this is for me anyway, the most
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anticipated game of the Playoff for me is this game.
Because if you've been around college athletics as long as
I've been, then you know that if you grew up
in the Midwest, and especially in Indiana, there were a ton,
I mean a ton of Indiana graduates that were big
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time basketball fans of Indiana, but when football season was
going on, they were all about Notre Dame because Indiana
was a non tractor. Indiana didn't even exist in football.
They sent the fraternities in the sororities, maybe which intes
the games, but they didn't care about college football at all.
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And now with what Kurt Signetti has done in transforming
that program into a player on the college level in
the first, very first year of the twelfth team Playoffs
is just amazing. And I think they got all the
cardge I think all the intangibles in this game. Tomorrow,
(25:24):
I are with Indiana, and I'm going to tell you
and the world on Fox Sports Radio tonight Indiana wins
this game, and I will not be shot and you
shouldn't be and you shouldn't be shocked either. Indiana has
the requisite tools to win this game if they play
it the right way, and I think they can now.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Tell let me ask you, because Indiana obviously with Signetti
and all the transfers from James Madison, that's well documented.
But we're looking at a lot of this field is
first second year coaches, guys who have really utilized the
transfer portal, and some of the players that if I
told you five years ago that Arizona State was playing
for a national championship Boise State, Indiana, you'd be like,
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all right, yeah, cancel the left drink at lunch.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Okay, you need to chill out.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
So if I'm a fan of any college football team,
I should feel like I have a shot if I
get the right guy, which is honestly part of the
reason why I'm kind of high on Belichick going in.
I know it's not exactly a playoff question. But do
you think that with the success of Deon Sanders so far,
like it's more wide open than ever in college football
in terms of being able to win a championship.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
It is, and that's why we need to get these
these clowns at the NCAA level, and these clowns that
are in charge of leadership positions in college football to
get off their ass and start leading. Because what have
we heard about this week? Oh the portal? This the
nil that the entire Marshall team hits the portal in
(26:58):
my hometown bowl game. Now to go find the five
and seventeen to replace Marshall who won their league with
only one loss. All, that is what we're hearing about
when college football is going through perhaps its greatest moments
on the field in the history of the sport. As
I said before making history history, that twelve teams at
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this stage in December have a chance to say, you
know what, why not us? That's never happened in college football.
I'm going to tell you when these games start beginning tomorrow,
I I really believe that the momentum listen, we had
the most incredible November we've ever had college football. I
will celebrate my fortieth year college football and basketball on
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national television on January fifth, of nineteen eighty of twenty
twenty five. So I'm only a few weeks away from
my fortieth anniversary. In my entire career, Okay, nothing has
been as big or as important to intercollasiate athletics, is
what's about the transpire this week? And yet, and yet
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our god forsaken media that is all caught up in
the same dribble every fricking day on daytime cable with
Bronnie this Aaron Rodgers, that I could give a rats
ass about any of that. We're talking about making history
(28:28):
and Interclasian athletics. And yet, because of the NCAA and
its instability and the lack of leadership in college football,
what's making headlines. This coach is leaving because this quarterback
just hit the transfer portal and went to Oklahoma and
left Wazoo, and Wazoo now is looking for a coach
because that coach who lost his quarterback is now going
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to Wake Forest. College football, because of its NCAA connections,
can't get out of its own way. And these are
the best terms. I mean, no one's watching more college
football than we are right now in the history of
the sport, no one's ever watched more. You know this
(29:12):
better than most thinking genius. Yes, I love the sport.
I love it, okay, for all of its flaws, all
of its frailties, and I'm the first to point them out.
I love the sport. And what the NCAA is involvement
is doing the college football right now is beyond the
pale absurd, and it is time for the SEC, the
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Big Ten, the Big twelve, and the ACC to tell
Charlie Baker and his god forsaken NCAA to get the
blank out of my life and govern yourselves, because the
NCAA has no business being a part of intercollegiate athletics
at the football level. First and foremost, the only thing
(29:59):
they can hang their head on is the NCAA Men's
Basketball Tournament. And by the way, that contract is up
in twenty thirty two. Oh probably I'll probably be I'll
probably be retired or dead by that time. And I'm
here to tell you once that happens. Once that happens,
they're done their history. They have no reason to even exist.
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They are a neo colonial outset that lines their own
pockets and lines the pockets of those that are in
control of these institutions, who are okay with the fact
that men can play as women in NCAA women's sports.
What a blank? And Kroc?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Is that my buddy, Tim Brando? Amen to that, Timmy,
be always a pleasure. I'll be checking you out tomorrow
night on your basketball game. Be good, my friend, enjoy it.
I love you and we'll speak to you next week.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
I love you, brother. Take care of yourself, take care.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Of my friends. Brando, he's pumped up there, Martin? Was
he not on one?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
My goodness, man, how do you really feel about the
ncidram I couldn't gather in the field.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I couldn't gather.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I want to come back talk about some of that
stuff and about the games all that's coming up next,
Martin Wise already spanier right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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(31:51):
last sebient. Matter of fact, some college football news came
down about thirty forty minutes ago. Georgia is preparing to
play without their starting quarterback Carson Beck, who's exploring surgery
options to repair an injury to his elbow on his
throwing hand. That according to Mark Schlebah he's reporting that
(32:12):
right now. So they're probably gonna have to go with
Gunner Stockton. A nice name by the way, as Rob
g and I were talking about that great quarterback and
he was pretty good in the game against Texas, rallied
them for the victory in overtime. But it's going to
hurt Georgia big time without Carson Beck there as a
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mat or what.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I don't I have not seen Gunner Stockton play save
the How long did he end up playing in that game?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
He was in the second half mostly he was twelve
or sixteen right, seventy one yards, no touchdowns, one interception.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I was here watching that game live, and because of
the time slot that we're in VJA and I on
Saturday evenings from what is eight to eleven Eastern five
to eight Pacific, I've seen a handful of Carson Beck's
games on the air.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I have not been impressed.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
He's turned the ball over, one of the one of
the guys with most turnovers in college football, and he
just has not impressed me, quite honestly, until the SEC
Championship game when he came back in the game to
hand the ball off.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Now, what was Texas doing on defense there? That's a
bigger question because it's.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Like the guy's arm is dangling like a But that
was gutsy to come back in there and hand it
off after Stott Gutter was hurt. I hope he's gonna
I'm assuming he's gonna play. I could be wrong, maybe
he was hurt too, but.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I'm he looked like he got knocked the next week
after he took that hit from the text.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yes, so we'll see.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
But ultimately, like I don't I think that Carson Beck
may have held this team back at some point this
at points this year.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Uh So, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I don't mean to begrudge the kid, because I do
think the last time he was out there it was
one of the I said it at the time, This
is a moment going down in Georgia football history in
the way that he came back out there, Like if
you're in a Georgia fan, congratulates his hair standing up
on your arms type of thing. To watch him come
back out there with his arm day lit that and
make the and you know he didn't make to play
hand to the ball off, but the willingness to go
(34:11):
out there for your team in that moment, that's what
we're in. That's what we do this for, right That's
why we're watching sports. That's why we play sports is
for that thing. But ultimately, like I don't think Carson
Beca is that good.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
What's the one game that you're looking forward to out
of the four on Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
After hearing burn though, I know what, the Battle for
Indiana has got me fired up.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
You know, it's the highest priced ticket by far out
of the four games. You know that, don't you nuts?
Because everybody is in the vicinity, so everybody's trying to
get tickets for that game.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
So I've been thinking because I've been thinking, like, I'm
trying to think what the funniest possible outcome of this.
And I'm looking at this as a Michigan fan, So
the idea that we were defending national champions is ending
very soon, right, So I have about a week and
a half left to hang on to this. But I've
been trying to think of what's the outcome because like,
(35:05):
if Georgia wins the national championship, for example, nobody's gonna blink. Right,
If Texas wins, nobody's gonna blink. If if even Notre
Dame or Ohio State wins, nobody's gonna blink. But like
if Penn State wins the championship, I feel like people
are gonna be like, wait a minute, what the hell's
going on?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Or SMU or or something like that.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
So I've been trying to think of what the funniest
but yet realistic outcome is, and I think it is
Penn State walking because they'll have to play that Georgia
team without his quarterback should they advance past the first round.
I just think it could be, uh, we could all
look back at this and be like, wait, maybe this
whole playoff was.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
A mistake because they still has to get by Boise
for sure.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I'm just saying that would be hilarious.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
If one of those two teams won the national championship,
I would die laft.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Have you been to South Bend for a game? By
the way, if you ever going to see Notre Dame,
never been.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I've seen several Literary Day games at the Big House,
but never been down to South Beak.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I think I've told this story before. I went to
Notre Dame South Bend to see them play Air Force,
and the former coach used to be my boss. One
of the former coaches of Notre Dame. His name was
Terry Brennan. His no longer wife. He was the captain
of the team of the football team and later became
the head coach, gave us two tickets to the game.
(36:23):
They lost the Air Force in overtime. The host I
went with got so drunk he made an ass out
of himself, and the university took.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Away the tickets.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I can't tell you how scared I was to go
back to work on Monday to find out what would
happen to us after that. I can't tell you how
scared I was.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Martin one of those you're hideing behind the corners check in,
they take an extra lok, he's taking an extra long
at the water cooler because you don't want to be
at the desk just in case he comes looking for you.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
And this was not just any guy that lost his tickets.
He was the captain of the team, and he was
the head coach of the team. I mean, we're talking
a long time ago. I don't nineteen twenties or something.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Who the heck.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Knows, mo, Yeah, I'm sure, yeah, it was. It was
certainly a very intense time. All right, two hours or
in the books, the power Hours. Coming up next, by
the way, Bill Krackenberger are going to join us at
about twenty past the hour. We will break down in
the games with him. We'll see what Vegas has to say,
who he likes in the college games, and who he
likes in the what week sixteen NFL games. So we'll
(37:26):
talk to Bill about that. Also, I want to get
a little bit into the NBA. We'll break down the games.
We'll take a more look at the college games. Also,
Caitlin Clark in the news. All that coming up next
here on Fox Sports Radio.
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any big plans for Christmas, go anywhere out of town
or just hanging in there.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I will be posted up chilling out here in Los Angeles,
California with my feet up.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Worst place to be for Christmas, Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
We had worst place.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, that just doesn't give you the Christmas feeling. You're
a detroit guy, aren't you you know what it is
like the holidays.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
You're one of these, Yeah, you're one of these. You
need your Christmas to be conditional.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Oh, if it's not.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Snowing, if it's not cold, is it even really Christmas?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Of course it is.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
We're getting snow on Christmas Eve out here in Vermont,
So I like that though. I like when there's snow
on the ground. We had a little snow today. I
like when it's snowing during the holidays.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I'm old enough to remember Thanksgiving when the car, when
your car was stuck in the snow, when you had
to have your wife bail you out because you didn't
have the right shoes on as.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Happy Holidays to you, missus Spaniard.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah I was. I did get stuck in that. That
was the first snowfall too. I wasn't ready. You know
what the problem is. I have a Jeep too. I
didn't have an in four wheel drive.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
That was my mistake.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't even know how to really drive it, to
be honest with you, I just wanted a Jeep.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I didn't even look at I don't even know the
difference between four h and two h and four L.
I couldn't even.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
He just wanted a jeep. It's a jeep thing.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Into four L or whatever that's called. And I just
went driving around. I don't know what I'm driving around then,
but that's yeah. I got stuck in the snow, and yeah,
that was a horrible day. Thanks for bringing that up.
I do, I do bring that. But it's good when
you're just sitting at home sipping hot chocolate watching the
snow come down for the holidays, then it's good stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Now, sure, but you also, I'll watch that on TV.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
He just he just go ahead and check it out
on TV. Tim Branda will join us at the bottom
of the hour. Obviously, a lot of college football to
get to and it all starts tomorrow. I can't wait.
Three great games. I think Penn State's gonna wallops, and
you will get to that a little bit later on.
I want to talk about the Sammy Sosa apology, which
(03:06):
I thought I was actually gonna lead the show with.
I thought this was like the biggest thing in sports.
After all these years, we finally get an apology. I
couldn't believe it. Sammy Sosa apologized, said he took steroids
because you know he had the heel. It was one
hundred and sixty two game season producer Rob you you
(03:26):
had it like what listed as like the ninetieth story today.
You had it like under miscellaneous. I had to, you know,
scour all the topics today just to find it. Was like,
no big deal for you, right, you didn't care much
about it?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
No, because you know, the odd couple's a brand name
like Coca Cola or Xerox, and you know, talking about
Sammy Sosa and him using pds if we all knew
he did, you know, isn't as high in the priority
list for us.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I but I thought that was a big thing. Though.
I think we finally got an answer to this.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
You did you did you when you heard it were
You're like, oh my god, finally Sammy Sosa comes clean.
I can't believe we got an apology. This is incredible.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Alrighty, I'll be honest with you. Maybe it's a generational.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Thing, but yeah, when you sent me your handwritten photo
of the rundown, yes, and I scrolled it. I say scroll,
stand with my eyes because there is no scroll on
the legal pad.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I at the Google Soso apology to see who you
were talking about. Wow, I was, I was legitimately, I
don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I know who Sammy Sosa is, right right, Well, familiar
with the Chicago comes in the story. All I'm saying
is I had so little of notice that this happened
today that when I said, Soco apologize, so well.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
This could be anything. Did ed your Sosa from.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Louisville basketball fifteen years ago apologize for ripping off Michigan
in that National championship game?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Well, what are we talking about? You know? Oh, Sammy Sosa.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oh, I want people to tweet us at Martin Wise,
that stinking genius one. I don't think people remember we've
kept people out of the Hall of Fame for steroid use.
We've called them cheaters. We had him in front of Congress,
we had people wagging their finger. I did not use steroids.
(05:14):
It was a big story back then.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
This was so I'm not debating that and saying it's
not a big story.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
But part of the reason.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Why this apology I don't think is resonating with Rob
G and me.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
The way its resonating with you is Rob G. I'm
speaking for you as well here.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
But we always thought Sammy Socid was doing his pedes,
so it's like, oh, yeah, no kidding. The sun comes
up in the east, like yeah, we knew they like
we knew that this was happening. So it's when he
gets to the apology, and I guess, you know, it's
all cool to be a good moment when he can
go back and shake hands and Wrigley Field and you know,
the exile.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
From the Cubs is over.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
But Rob, Rob g Rob Parker is a baseball guy.
You must have talked to him today. He was just
like you know, all over the Sammy's Socials story.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Was he not or what when I talked to him? No,
But let me just say about this story as we
are talking about it. Maybe that's wise, but I think
him coming clean is like the footnote in the story.
The story to me is that this all stems from
the Chicago Cubs saying we are not going to invite
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you to this you know fan fest. What was that
we're doing unless we get some kind of apology for
the you know, public schmearing you did of our brand
during that era, because we all knew you were on
Royd's and it was a bad look for us that
the face of our franchise was not clean. And I
think that is the biggest croc that I have heard
in a long long time, because everybody knows if you
(06:48):
were alive in watching sports during that time in the nineties,
that baseball, to put it in my lead, was dead
or dying.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yes, oh strike it was a low.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
It was a down period, and Mark McGuire and Sammy
Sosa saved baseball. They were juiced up to the gills.
They were on things that you know, was and dinner whatever.
The one that McGuire that he wasn't even hiding.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Remember he was.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
In his lockers right there, right behind him like he
was promoting it, and everybody knew that they were on
that stuff. But the chase to seventy or to sixty
one was all anybody cared about. Like, man, these guys
are hitting dingers like every four at bats. I can't
miss these games. I gotta watch it. And so for
this it used to be used absolutely, and so for
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the Chicago Cubs to be this level of hypocritical, to
be like, hey, you made us look bad when the
only reason people cared about you and your sport in
general was because of what he was doing.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
So for them to the Madden apology, I thought was.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
It's almost like if the Warriors were demanding apology for
Steph Curry for load management, Like you all know this
was happening, and kind him were like wing wig, we
don't mind so much as long as you keep on
bringing in the dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was, you know, and I agree with Rob g
this was I mean, everybody knew he was on this,
but back then we wanted blood. We wanted him out
of baseball, not just Sammy, everybody that used steroids or
performance enhancing drugs. We wanted to call them cheaters. We
wanted to give them the scarlet letter. We want everything
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bad about them. Notice how time has changed everything. Is
there anybody still out there that says these guys are
still cheaters and Bond should be left out of the
Hall of Fame? What about Bonds? I mean, is he
gonna write a letter about this? Also? He should be.
I mean he's one of the greatest too.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I mean maybe he should because I think the maybe
and I think part of it is aren't he like maybe?
I was like full disclosure. I saw some of those
cut ins as well. They were just on nick like
Nickelodeon at the time. Like legitimately I remember seeing sammy'ssam
Marbla guire on Nickelodeon. But that's the age I was
when this was happening, So like I didn't have the
(09:04):
anger in the venom and all that when it turned
out that on him and Caseinko and Bonds and whoever
was already get in trouble. And honestly, this is a
I know, the odd couples of brand. What do you say,
like like Xerox co Cola, Xerox and Coca Cola. So
I apologize, but I hold baseball writers to task much
more than I hold baseball players to task because every
(09:25):
if everybody knew that everybody was juicing, why weren't they
writing about it in the moment?
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Is all this stuff comes on after the fact. All
this stuff comes up way like you know now all
of a sudden, but everybody knew and it was just unspoked. Well,
I mean, look, if Lebron's been taking acas for the
last six years, I would like to know about it.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Well, the question is this, guys, how much cheating went
on in baseball? How much cheating still goes on to
I mean, if they found the way to still you know,
bypass all the testing out there, how much cheating just
goes on in sports? How about that? How much cheating
does does it go on? And in all sports out there?
Not only with performance enhancing drugs, you know other little
(10:04):
stuff too, where maybe you're putting something inside your glove
or you have a foreign substance on there to get
a better grip of the baseball or or something to
that effect. You tell me, is there's still a lot
of cheating that goes on in sports or what?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Absolutely, But I think cheating is too strong of a term.
I think if you're looking at people who directly take
the rulebook and violate it, I think that happens very
very rarely. But I think if they say, oh, you
know what, there's a loophole here that I can exploit,
I think that happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Chet's cheating.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
But I think it's against the spirit of the rules,
right like it's you can have something that's not cheating
but is also against the spirit of the rules at
the same time. And I think that happens a lot
more frequent.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
And I think what makes this specific story, you know,
to bring it back full circle. What makes it such
a different conversation is Sammy Sosa, Ark McGuire, Roger Clamens.
They weren't the only guys on ped now. That's why
it's called.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
The ped era, the steroids era. Everybody was doing it.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
So if everybody, if you look at it in that regard,
they're on an equal playing field, because it's not like
if you say today, you know, hypothetically everybody today is clean,
then it's an equal playing field. If back in the
nineties everybody's on royds, then it is an equal playing field.
And you can't, you know, judge one guy and not
the other, or one era and not the other when like,
(11:31):
I don't even view it as cheating if it was
that widespread anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Right, right, And I don't think that's the reason why. Now,
maybe it helped them a little bit, but they're all
still great players. They didn't hit seventy plus home runs
because they were on performance enhancing drugs. They had to
get healthy. Big on peds doesn't help you hit a curveball, okay,
cause if it did, I would be taking it and
going out there batting three hundred and hitting fifty home runs.
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But that doesn't it doesn't make could do that. Some
pills make people get better, some don't. All right before
buttinanti drugs, it really is about healing, not so much
about how far you're getting hit a baseball it's.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Their recovery, is that they're kinding.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
In a sport like baseball, where you're playing one hundred
and sixty two games over what one hundred and seventy
five days, you need that recovery more than any I think, not.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
More than any of the sporkers.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Footballs are so violent, but just the day in day out,
no sport has attacks like baseball.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I think we're gonna get to the point now, guys
where they're gonna have to do eighty one games in
eighty one games for baseball. The reason I bring that
up is because after eighty one games, if you already
clinched the spot in the playoffs, maybe you could rest
some of your superstars in the second half of the season.
You maybe play some of your youngsters.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
That way, you can't having one hundred and sixty two games.
That's just murderous. You're just it's just too tough. Nowadays,
I think you'd have to have the split season teas
up ease up some of the workload out there.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Why is it tougher nowadays than it was back in
the day, Like this is base Baseball is not one
of those sports where I'd say, oh man, the athletes
are so much bigger, stronger, faster, it causes more pain
on my joints. Like baseball still played the same save
for the pitchers. But who decided they have to throw
one hundred miles an hour every pitch?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Baseball the sport and the rules and all that haven't changed,
and say pitch clock, in size of base and so on,
But what's valued? And like spin rate and like the
ability to calculate that level of torque. I heard people
I'm smarter baseball people than me talking about This is
where I'm stealing this take from.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
But the sin like different.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
The way that the analytics has influenced spin rate and
exitive velocity and so all these things. It forces now
athletes as they're coming up the up the pipeline to
get to the majors.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
That's what scouts are looking for.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
So you got kids younger and younger trying to do
things that they shouldn't be doing until they become adults.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Because that's fair because the danger on.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
But they're they're pitching a lot less. Also, I mean
nowadays starters only go four innings right then after that is,
but I'm.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Throwing as hard as they can for four innings.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's fine though no one Ryan was throwing as hard
as he can't freight ye.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
But like if you, I know, you watch a lot
of baseball, and we have to baseball here, like you
will listen to Greg Maddox talk. You listened to you know,
uh verd Landers most famous hit of this season. He's like,
when I came up, I had to know, Hey, I
gotta go seven innings in this one. I can't be
throwing one hundred and one hundred and two in the
second inning. I gotta ramp myself up. I gotta save
some energy. I gotta be able to have my stuff
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working to and get through the whole game. Nowadays, what
Martin is saying, there's saying, hey, you you're only going
four innings, Throw as hard as you can with as
much torque, as much spin as possible, and what about
the rest later? And that's why Tommy Johns are tough
right now.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
It's like telling an NBA player play like it's two
minutes left in a tie game, in the fourth quarter,
in the playoffs, every single minute you're on the court.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Why you just can't your blow attire?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
You're right, and like I said, nowadays start Can you
imagine back in the day they have starting pitches that
we went for inning should be thrown out of baseball?
He said, get out of here. You know you're going
to the bullpen. You're gonna be a reliever. We don't
need your type, that's for sure. Martin Wise, Arney Spani're
in for the guys to night, Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington.
We're gonna come back. Let's get a little bit into
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the college playoff and start looking into the NFL Week
sixteen plus Timmy b Tim Brando will join us at
the bottom of the hour. All that coming up next
right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
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Speaker 3 (15:41):
All Right, good evening, everybody, Martin wis, Arney Spaniar in
for the guys night, Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington. You
want to be part of the show. Twitter is the
best way at Martin wise, I'm it stinking genius one.
Like Overnight Joe, I want to wrap it up with
his tweet that said Mark maguire and Sammy Sosa should
be in the Hall of Fame. They both save Bass
and McGuire plus was great to the Maris family. So
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one hundred percent right on that. I agree one hundred
percent with Overnight Joe. Tim Brando. By the way, at
the bottom of the hour, we'll get this. Some of
the bowl games out there, Martin, do you care about
any of these bowl games? I mean, now with the
twelve team playoff, these other bowl games are more insignificant
than ever right now.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Yeah they are. I still care. I still care, but
not in the way that I used to.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Like I used to be locked in watch every bowl
from the New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Bowl all the way to the Nasha Championship.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I'm not gonna be the same. It doesn't quite have
the same feeling, the same luster. But I would say
I am excited about the college football Playoff though, like
while it had a unique postseason beforehand, I do think
the playoff is gonna be cool.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Oh I think so. Also, real quick. Not very many
people are going to these bowl games either. I'm not
talking about the playoffs. I'm just talking about these regular
bowl games. They're not traveling. It costs a lot of money.
They're not really going to do that, so I and
you can't see it, but they don't really show the crowd. Eventually,
they're gonna have to really think about getting rid of
these other bowl games and just maybe expand the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, but I don't want to get. What I don't
want to see is march madness. Like I don't think
we should do that. I think there's too many football
games being played, so they have to figure out some
level of something to do. So we could have the
sport with probably the largest, the largest like base of
just participants when you think of college football or college basketball,
probably is a much more much bigger, but you know,
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one of the larger ones you're trying to put together
this postseason playing for I don't want to see like
a sixteen team playoff a twenty fourth teams.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I would like to see sixteen. I would do sixteen, yes,
give me that. That way there was no buy instead
of the four teams getting a BUYE one through sixteen.
No problems with that. We're not gonna have two teams
that get a buy that that shouldn't get a buy.
I think eventually it has to be one through sixteen.
That's what I want to see, Martin. I would love
to go ahead and have that.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I'd like to see one through eight honestly, but I
know that's not happened.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
I know we're never going back.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I'm gonna if I had it by way, If I
had it my way, Arnie, I would have had the
Power five conference championships automatically get bids, and then you
have three at large eighteen playoff and you know, we
still have college football as we used to know, but
now we're moving into this bachelardized version.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
But hell, you know what, at least the playoff is interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Though.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I can't lie. I'm excited for tomorrow. I'm excited to watch.
I mean think about this, Arnie, though. And in reality,
we have teams like Indiana SMU are playing for the
opportunity to win the national Chami, Arizona, State, Arizona, you
name it. That would never have happened in the other format.
I also just don't need to see like Eastern Michigan here, Well.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
What about what Eastern Michigan's not there? And they won't
be there if it the top sixteen. But who may
be there and we just found this out could be
an eye IVY League team. Would you be okay if
a Yale or Harvard or Prince I don't even know
who's good in the IVY League, Brown, I don't even
know who's the good teams in the IVY League. But
I do think it's kind of good that they're gonna
be in D one, you know, I.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Mean, I think it would be good to be in
D one.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
But you know, just like I get mad at the
nerds on Twitter for talking about sports too much and
adding exit v low and spin rateing and you know,
usage rate and all this other stupid stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Like is he good?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Is he not?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I'll have the same feeling probably if we see one
of these teams really getting a shot, like a one
game shot to play for a national time.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Well, I mean, forget if they go through a sixteen
team playoff. They have all the right like any other team.
But let's get out to what's going on at all
starts tomorrow. First of all, what do you think of
the format one on Friday, three on Saturday. Kind of
like that gives you something to just kind of get
an appetizer on Friday night and then we'll full fledged.
But we're going up against the NFL on Saturday. They
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got a couple of games. Be interesting to see how
the ratings come out for the games that are up
against the NFL.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
They will get crushed. It will be a demoel. It
will be demolition.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
And I don't I don't understand why other leagues don't
understand that there's only a hint, like Arnie. Legitimately, if
you really think about it, the thing that keeps cable
TV alive right now is the NFL. The thing that
keeps television as we know it appointment viewing television is
the NFL.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Why would you ever go up against it?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Why do you have to have steak every night? If
you love steak, couldn't you pass on these Steelers Ravens
for one time in order to watch Clemson Texas in
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Ernie, let me put it to you like this.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yes, it's been a while, I imagine since you were
bar hopping on a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
But let's just last night.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
So let's say every night, or I said, every Tuesday
and Thursday night, there's the biggest guy in the bar,
and that guy always is starting to fight. But if Wednesday,
Friday and Saturday you go, you're the biggest guy at
the bar and you're not even a Friday you over there,
you're trying to talk to the leagues, right, So which.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Days would you go?
Speaker 7 (21:08):
On?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Tuesdays and Thursdays?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
That's his bar on Wednesday, Friday is Saturdays, it's yours.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
So I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I don't need to see the NFL every day. I
don't even need to see the NFL quite honestly on Thursdays.
But if I was planning something to put on television,
ain't no way in hell I will put it up
against an NFL game.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
But that's your day to begin with. Though Saturdays are
college football day. It's the NFL's you know, intruding on
college football right now.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
I mean it used to be.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
So what did you want them to do? Put all
the games on Friday on Friday December twentieth? They just
play them that day or what? No, that's not going
to give you optimal ratings. I promise you that, No,
it's not. But I would have liked this scene. I
just know, I don't know how you figure it out.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Maybe you have a conversation with the NFL, especially with
Christmas being this week right, like how can we adjust
this schedule maybe have a higher level of games on
Christmas than you do otherwise. But I just know, if
you want somebody to watch some all TV and it's
not politics or the NFL, you better not be going
up against politics of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
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Fox Sports radio broadcaster. We'll talk about the college games.
We'll see what Timm B has to say. First off,
let's see what's trending.
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Speaker 3 (23:00):
I want to get right to our guests. One of
my favorite people in the world. Just absolutely love this guy.
Used to work with him in Chicago. Nobody knows college
football or college sports better than our next guest. It's
our buddy, Tim Brando. How you doing, Timmy B? Or
maybe he doesn't like me so much, Martin. I don't
know what to tell you out there.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Maybe I'm personal.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Hey, Timmy B. How you doing, my friend?
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I'm great, sticker genius. How are you?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I'm doing great. It's so good to reconnect with you.
It's been such a long long time. And first of all,
how excited are you for this twelve team playoff? How
great is this right now?
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Oh man, I'm I'm I'm loving it. But with the
possible exception of the first game being on opposite my
basketball game on Fox tomorrow, I would prefer I would
prefer of Indiana Notre Dame. We're starting a few hours
earlier or a few hours later, but I've got Providence
and St. John. You a pretty good basketball game opposite it.
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On Fox tomorrow. It's history. Though, to be specific to
your question, Arnie, I mean it's history. It's flat out
big time history. I was talking to Sean McDonough earlier
this week. He's a dear friend, somebody I've known forever.
We're contemporaries, and he's gonna call the game with Greg McElroy.
And I think this is for me anyway, the most
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anticipated game of the Playoff for me is this game.
Because if you've been around college athletics as long as
I've been, then you know that if you grew up
in the Midwest, and especially in Indiana, there were a ton,
I mean a ton of Indiana graduates that were big
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time basketball fans of Indiana, but when football season was
going on, they were all about Notre Dame because Indiana
was a non tractor. Indiana didn't even exist in football.
They sent the fraternities in the sororities, maybe which intes
the games, but they didn't care about college football at all.
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And now with what Kurt Signetti has done in transforming
that program into a player on the college level in
the first, very first year of the twelfth team Playoffs
is just amazing. And I think they got all the
cardge I think all the intangibles in this game. Tomorrow,
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I are with Indiana, and I'm going to tell you
and the world on Fox Sports Radio tonight Indiana wins
this game, and I will not be shot and you
shouldn't be and you shouldn't be shocked either. Indiana has
the requisite tools to win this game if they play
it the right way, and I think they can now.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Tell let me ask you, because Indiana obviously with Signetti
and all the transfers from James Madison, that's well documented.
But we're looking at a lot of this field is
first second year coaches, guys who have really utilized the
transfer portal, and some of the players that if I
told you five years ago that Arizona State was playing
for a national championship Boise State, Indiana, you'd be like,
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all right, yeah, cancel the left drink at lunch.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Okay, you need to chill out.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
So if I'm a fan of any college football team,
I should feel like I have a shot if I
get the right guy, which is honestly part of the
reason why I'm kind of high on Belichick going in.
I know it's not exactly a playoff question. But do
you think that with the success of Deon Sanders so far,
like it's more wide open than ever in college football
in terms of being able to win a championship.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
It is, and that's why we need to get these
these clowns at the NCAA level, and these clowns that
are in charge of leadership positions in college football to
get off their ass and start leading. Because what have
we heard about this week? Oh the portal? This the
nil that the entire Marshall team hits the portal in
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my hometown bowl game. Now to go find the five
and seventeen to replace Marshall who won their league with
only one loss. All, that is what we're hearing about
when college football is going through perhaps its greatest moments
on the field in the history of the sport. As
I said before making history history, that twelve teams at
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this stage in December have a chance to say, you
know what, why not us? That's never happened in college football.
I'm going to tell you when these games start beginning tomorrow,
I I really believe that the momentum listen, we had
the most incredible November we've ever had college football. I
will celebrate my fortieth year college football and basketball on
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national television on January fifth, of nineteen eighty of twenty
twenty five. So I'm only a few weeks away from
my fortieth anniversary. In my entire career, Okay, nothing has
been as big or as important to intercollasiate athletics, is
what's about the transpire this week? And yet, and yet
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our god forsaken media that is all caught up in
the same dribble every fricking day on daytime cable with
Bronnie this Aaron Rodgers, that I could give a rats
ass about any of that. We're talking about making history
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and Interclasian athletics. And yet, because of the NCAA and
its instability and the lack of leadership in college football,
what's making headlines. This coach is leaving because this quarterback
just hit the transfer portal and went to Oklahoma and
left Wazoo, and Wazoo now is looking for a coach
because that coach who lost his quarterback is now going
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to Wake Forest. College football, because of its NCAA connections,
can't get out of its own way. And these are
the best terms. I mean, no one's watching more college
football than we are right now in the history of
the sport, no one's ever watched more. You know this
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better than most thinking genius. Yes, I love the sport.
I love it, okay, for all of its flaws, all
of its frailties, and I'm the first to point them out.
I love the sport. And what the NCAA is involvement
is doing the college football right now is beyond the
pale absurd, and it is time for the SEC, the
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Big Ten, the Big twelve, and the ACC to tell
Charlie Baker and his god forsaken NCAA to get the
blank out of my life and govern yourselves, because the
NCAA has no business being a part of intercollegiate athletics
at the football level. First and foremost, the only thing
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they can hang their head on is the NCAA Men's
Basketball Tournament. And by the way, that contract is up
in twenty thirty two. Oh probably I'll probably be I'll
probably be retired or dead by that time. And I'm
here to tell you once that happens. Once that happens,
they're done their history. They have no reason to even exist.
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They are a neo colonial outset that lines their own
pockets and lines the pockets of those that are in
control of these institutions, who are okay with the fact
that men can play as women in NCAA women's sports.
What a blank? And Kroc?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Is that my buddy, Tim Brando? Amen to that, Timmy,
be always a pleasure. I'll be checking you out tomorrow
night on your basketball game. Be good, my friend, enjoy it.
I love you and we'll speak to you next week.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
I love you, brother. Take care of yourself, take care.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Of my friends. Brando, he's pumped up there, Martin? Was
he not on one?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
My goodness, man, how do you really feel about the
ncidram I couldn't gather in the field.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I couldn't gather.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I want to come back talk about some of that
stuff and about the games all that's coming up next,
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last sebient. Matter of fact, some college football news came
down about thirty forty minutes ago. Georgia is preparing to
play without their starting quarterback Carson Beck, who's exploring surgery
options to repair an injury to his elbow on his
throwing hand. That according to Mark Schlebah he's reporting that
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right now. So they're probably gonna have to go with
Gunner Stockton. A nice name by the way, as Rob
g and I were talking about that great quarterback and
he was pretty good in the game against Texas, rallied
them for the victory in overtime. But it's going to
hurt Georgia big time without Carson Beck there as a
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mat or what.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I don't I have not seen Gunner Stockton play save
the How long did he end up playing in that game?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
He was in the second half mostly he was twelve
or sixteen right, seventy one yards, no touchdowns, one interception.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I was here watching that game live, and because of
the time slot that we're in VJA and I on
Saturday evenings from what is eight to eleven Eastern five
to eight Pacific, I've seen a handful of Carson Beck's
games on the air.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I have not been impressed.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
He's turned the ball over, one of the one of
the guys with most turnovers in college football, and he
just has not impressed me, quite honestly, until the SEC
Championship game when he came back in the game to
hand the ball off.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Now, what was Texas doing on defense there? That's a
bigger question because it's.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Like the guy's arm is dangling like a But that
was gutsy to come back in there and hand it
off after Stott Gutter was hurt. I hope he's gonna
I'm assuming he's gonna play. I could be wrong, maybe
he was hurt too, but.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I'm he looked like he got knocked the next week
after he took that hit from the text.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yes, so we'll see.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
But ultimately, like I don't I think that Carson Beck
may have held this team back at some point this
at points this year.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Uh So, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I don't mean to begrudge the kid, because I do
think the last time he was out there it was
one of the I said it at the time, This
is a moment going down in Georgia football history in
the way that he came back out there, Like if
you're in a Georgia fan, congratulates his hair standing up
on your arms type of thing. To watch him come
back out there with his arm day lit that and
make the and you know he didn't make to play
hand to the ball off, but the willingness to go
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out there for your team in that moment, that's what
we're in. That's what we do this for, right That's
why we're watching sports. That's why we play sports is
for that thing. But ultimately, like I don't think Carson
Beca is that good.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
What's the one game that you're looking forward to out
of the four on Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
After hearing burn though, I know what, the Battle for
Indiana has got me fired up.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
You know, it's the highest priced ticket by far out
of the four games. You know that, don't you nuts?
Because everybody is in the vicinity, so everybody's trying to
get tickets for that game.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
So I've been thinking because I've been thinking, like, I'm
trying to think what the funniest possible outcome of this.
And I'm looking at this as a Michigan fan, So
the idea that we were defending national champions is ending
very soon, right, So I have about a week and
a half left to hang on to this. But I've
been trying to think of what's the outcome because like,
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if Georgia wins the national championship, for example, nobody's gonna blink. Right,
If Texas wins, nobody's gonna blink. If if even Notre
Dame or Ohio State wins, nobody's gonna blink. But like
if Penn State wins the championship, I feel like people
are gonna be like, wait a minute, what the hell's
going on?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Or SMU or or something like that.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
So I've been trying to think of what the funniest
but yet realistic outcome is, and I think it is
Penn State walking because they'll have to play that Georgia
team without his quarterback should they advance past the first round.
I just think it could be, uh, we could all
look back at this and be like, wait, maybe this
whole playoff was.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
A mistake because they still has to get by Boise
for sure.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I'm just saying that would be hilarious.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
If one of those two teams won the national championship,
I would die laft.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Have you been to South Bend for a game? By
the way, if you ever going to see Notre Dame,
never been.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I've seen several Literary Day games at the Big House,
but never been down to South Beak.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I think I've told this story before. I went to
Notre Dame South Bend to see them play Air Force,
and the former coach used to be my boss. One
of the former coaches of Notre Dame. His name was
Terry Brennan. His no longer wife. He was the captain
of the team of the football team and later became
the head coach, gave us two tickets to the game.
(36:23):
They lost the Air Force in overtime. The host I
went with got so drunk he made an ass out
of himself, and the university took.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Away the tickets.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I can't tell you how scared I was to go
back to work on Monday to find out what would
happen to us after that. I can't tell you how
scared I was.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Martin one of those you're hideing behind the corners check in,
they take an extra lok, he's taking an extra long
at the water cooler because you don't want to be
at the desk just in case he comes looking for you.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
And this was not just any guy that lost his tickets.
He was the captain of the team, and he was
the head coach of the team. I mean, we're talking
a long time ago. I don't nineteen twenties or something.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Who the heck.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Knows, mo, Yeah, I'm sure, yeah, it was. It was
certainly a very intense time. All right, two hours or
in the books, the power Hours. Coming up next, by
the way, Bill Krackenberger are going to join us at
about twenty past the hour. We will break down in
the games with him. We'll see what Vegas has to say,
who he likes in the college games, and who he
likes in the what week sixteen NFL games. So we'll
(37:26):
talk to Bill about that. Also, I want to get
a little bit into the NBA. We'll break down the games.
We'll take a more look at the college games. Also,
Caitlin Clark in the news. All that coming up next
here on Fox Sports Radio.
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