January 1, 2025 • 30 mins
Former NFL All-Pro Kerry Rhodes is in for Kelvin, and he and Rob discuss the drama surrounding Quinn Ewers’ NIL standing in college football and explain why the Philadelphia Eagles are doing the right thing by holding out Saquon Barkley in Week 18 during his pursuit of the NFL’s single-season rushing record. Plus, former NFL tight end and Oregon alum George Wrighster swings by to discuss the Ducks’ blowout loss to Ohio State in the Rose Bowl.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Texas, of course, won that thrilling game earlier today against
Arizona State double overton.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
So who missed the field goal?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Though? Was that?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
All was Texas?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
They could have won it over and regular regulation? Okay,
because I knew somebody missed the field.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
College kickers man, I believe he missed two fields too.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, if you took down his football pants, they might
be brown, you know, Like, let's just be honest.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Well, his last name is Auburn, So this is you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Like like rob g, I know everybody thinksych it's just
a piece of cake. Like there's pressure there, right, Yeah,
of course there's big pressure, you know it. You want
to be a big man on campus, so you want
to be you know, shun It's the craziest position in
the playoffs. I mean, you're out there as a quarterback
or a receiver or whatever your position is, you have
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chances to make a mistake and you're gonna you can
kind of double down and and win some as well.
But when you're a kicker, those those opportunities are limited. Yes,
either you're that the man on campus or they can't
stand to yep.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
And so that kicker had his bacon saved by Quinniers
because Quinny Ears, even though with the interception, had a
pretty very solid day for Texas twenty thirty three, twenty
two through the air, three touchdowns. He also added like a.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Couple of shrimp cures, skewers, I'm sorry, oh man.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And so you would think that after that game that
the whole thing was, Hey, Texas got the win, Sark advances,
quinn yours does it again. However, there was a cloud
hanging over this team and above this program coming into
the game that he still hasn't fully dissipated. And that's
because of a couple of reports, one of them being
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that regardless what happens during this playoff run with Texas, well.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
They can win the national championship and it won't.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And it won't change him exactly whether they win the
championship where they get blown.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Out and would that be thrown out there before? Let
can it play out?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
So the report is that arch Manning will be the
starter in twenty twenty four. Wow, no matter what that
that's their plan. They're going to move forward with him.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Well, I figured that since.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
His uncle's going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
But that's another story. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But so that of course leaves yours in an interesting situation.
Most had assumed that he would probably end up going
to the draft. He's projected somewhere between the second and
fourth round. However, before the game, and actually a couple
of days ago, was reported that several teams have already
contacted yours and his representatives, which would be illegal. This
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is tampering because this team is still playing and have
said that if he's willing to forego the NFL Draft,
they have an nil deal on the table for six
million dollars to come play for our school next season.
You're not gonna play for Texas. We already know that.
If you don't go to the draft, come play for
us and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I saw that, Yeah, well, I'm gonna say this carry
Its real simple. The reason you have the WAW Wild
West going on and the nil and all this and
the other thing. Dion said this, and it's so true.
Everybody ain't making a million dollars. Who's playing college football? Okay,
like like, stop with everybody, because I hear people like,
oh did you play? They all getting paid there? Pro No,
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everybody's not getting paid. No, everybody, stop it. But the
college football they're to blame for this because instead of
taking this by the Horns Carrie, allocating the kind of
money that's going to be spent, taking it out of
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their pocket, their money that they're getting from the TV network,
they're like, no, we're not Nope. Boosters. What do they
call those people who just donate money? I think there's
a word for him boosters. No, but there's some new
word while people who just you know, put up money
and I'll get I can't remember what they call it.
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But my point is, once you do that and allow
other people to get involved, you have no.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Control of this.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
They've allowed someone to dictate where people are going because
they refuse to pay. Set up a salary cap, set
up some rules and regulations.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
If it's your money, you can do that. It's not
your money, so they can't say anything.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
They should have had a I guess this regulation thing
that should have happened. This is my idea when I
first heard about you know and IO possibly happening. Right,
there could be a big pot of money and the
thing that would make players and think you know, the
guys that don't make the million millions of dollars on
that team stay committed to your program is you get
this allotment of money, you put it in the pot
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and you dib it out equally, Like how would you
would now? Would you cheer the players?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And what I'm saying is, uh, everybody gets kind of classified, right,
I know what you mean.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
So just so it's like if you're an a player,
you b C and a d well a guy who
doesn't play, but that doesn't matter. But that part doesn't matter.
If you get the big pot of money, you put
it there and you dib it out equally. The unknown
money that the boosters still are going to give you
anyway could compensate for the ones that are in the
different tiers you're saying, So just for the money that
you get that you could bring in as a as
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an organization from the boosters that you put aside. This
is what we have to offer for the year. The
players you bring in almost like like like a forgetency
in NFL, right, Like, we have this amount of money
to spend. The people we're bringing in to come into
play will fall under the unbrelliant with digby it evenly.
I think that would also even the plan field for
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the talent that we see on the field as well.
Ohio State has more money to pay these players, and
so when you look at this team on when they're
playing at their best, they're the best team in college
football because they can pay the most money.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
They spend twenty million or something. It's ridiculous. It was something.
That number is crazy. So that's was it.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Twenty million, rob g like Ohio State. It was something
like that. It's a crazy number. It's the players they.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Had like Eboca. Things name is Iboca from from Ohio State.
He could have went pro and came back because he's
making just as much money as he would have made.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
It a right, it's crazy. It is crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
And if you're Quinn right, Okay, I don't think there's
even a choice. He's not projected to be a top
pick in the first round, right, so, and never already
told you that they're moving on and they want to
get the other the baby manning in Right, so, why
not put yourself in the portal, take six million, and
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go somewhere else and play.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I think there's a layout a thousand thousand percent, right,
I mean, the other alternative doesn't even match up to that.
You're going to be holding the clipboard in the NFL
and not making you know, he'll get a four hundred
thousand dollars signing bonus. When you can make six million
playing college football and not be worried about it, you can.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
He can even stink. It doesn't matter. And I'm not
even mad at the players. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I think they deserve all that they get. They have
been taking advantage of way too long. I always said
the NCAA was organized crime. I mean I still to
this day. And then all these coaches now you know
who want to quit and oh, I just I can't
with the game. But they can bounce whenever they want.
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They recruit you, go to your house, tell your parents this,
that and the other thing, and then they.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Decide oh yeah, I got a better deal. I'm on it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I'm not even coaching the ball game, please, I'm out
ready to recruit. And then they frown at the kids.
I just don't even get it quits. Yeah, it's nuts.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I know.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Obviously I came. I came along a little bit too late.
But uh, you look at that. There's actually I know
that some some players they have a carry. People would
get money when you played, not six million dollars, I
say that people were getting money. Yeah, people were getting
a little at little scratched.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I got you got a few, but not no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
not that kind. Because I remember when I was covering
Saint John's basketball, and I remember the big scuttle butt
was about Chris Mullin had a no show job at
a car dealership, you know what I mean, like a
booster for Saint John's or whatever. And he had a
job and never showed up and they paid him every week,
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you know what I mean, Like that's what they used.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
To do, right, Yeah, And I went to Louisville.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
So you talk about the basketball recruits, that was a
different that was a different deal, right.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well, guys, just to put into context, what this six
million dollars would be obviously would be the biggest NIL
deal ever. So On three, the people who reported this
story the first time, and you know, these NII deals
are kind of under the table. No one really knows
what they're getting.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
It's kind of a gain.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And then there's some people who have not gotten their money,
you know, right, because it's not on the other night.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So there's three quarterbacks this year that transferred that kind
of everybody know. They're more of the household transfer quarterbacks.
Miami's Cam Ward who left Washington State, Ohio States. Will
Howard is putting on a show today in the Rose Bowl,
left Kansas State, Syracuse Kyle McCord who was forced out
of Ohio State so they could get Will Howard. Those
three guys combined, according to On three, got four million
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dollars combined for the three of them, and quinn Ewers
could get six.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Yeah, that makes more sense Rob that that number six
doesn't sound real pretty high, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Well, it depends on depending on who you read.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
The teams that allegedly are involved in the situation are
two schools with very deep pockets that would be Notre
Dame in US.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, they got plenty money.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
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Speaker 4 (10:13):
Let's go here.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And the Eagles, Philadelphia Eagles, yep, who have a meaningless
game against the New York Football Giants on Sunday. Right,
their position in the postseason can't change carry, right, So
they're locked in. I think at number two? Is that
what they are? So it's a meaningless game, yep. So
we know sa Kwan is one hundred and one yards
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away from breaking the record that Eric Dickerson did in
sixteen games. Yes, this would be seventeen, right.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you
on that one for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So that part of it, okay, But it would count
as the record because when Eric Dickerson broke Ojy's record,
broke oj did it in fourteen game.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
That's right, right, okay. But here's the real thing.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I think the Eagles are smart, and I think the
Eagles are right, and I know people are like, oh,
it's not fair. You know, Saquon's had this unbelievable year.
He could set the records within reach or whatever, But
what what is the big goal?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
The big goal is to make a run and a
chance to win a Super.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Of course, number two is this isn't Saquon on an
island because you can't rest the other starters and put
in a second and third string for him to try
to get it. So everybody has to play, Carrie, what
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if you lose a tackle or two trying to get
this record in a meaningless game. There's no buy, no
extra week for them to rest. They played the following week, right, Okay,
So it's not just him, it's the starters. If you're
gonna go for the everybody has to play.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
And that's why I think it makes sense even just
for the team chemistry. If he was a player and
the other guys weren't playing, like obviously, the optics look bad.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I mean, we all know what you're doing.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
And if it was the other way around, the other
starters were planning he wasn't playing, it would look bad
as well. So you just have to take into consideration
the optics for your team and what that looks like.
The Eagles are making the right decision. I do understand
people wanting to see it happen, but if the player
himself doesn't want to see it happen, Sa Kuan, if
he's not lobbying to get this done, it really doesn't
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matter because the legacy of what he did right now,
the only thing that would change is if he broke
that record. Obviously he's going to be in the record
books and we will always look back and say he
won over take don yards, say Kwan Barkley broke the record, right,
And so I think for his legacy moving on five
ten years out of the game, people aren't going to say, man,
say Kuan had a great year that year we had
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one thousand, nineteen hundred yards or whatever like. It'll be
talked about it as a footnote. If he broke the record,
it'll be talked about forever. And I think that's the
distinction that people are trying to, you know, weigh in on.
But for the Eagles, they got to sit him. You
got to get ready for the playoffs. You got bigger
fish to fry, right, And that's the issue.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
People want to see that. Oh I can't believe they're
not going to play him. Yeah, man, and you know football,
chance somebody could get hurt one play and if Saquan
just say Quon, yeah, hurts his knee and comes out
of the.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Game, they're done. Then you're like, what, Yeah, they're done?
Where what were we doing?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Then you would say the coach is dumb. How could
they be playing them? Like you're putting your setting yourself up.
The Chiefs have no day. They've already shown up the number.
They're not playing Patrick Mahomes for what.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
What would be the reason? There's no reason.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Oh well, we don't want to lose the last game
of the year. We lost only one. We only want
to have one. Nobody cares about that. Were you were
you undefeated? Now, if you had a chance to go undefeated,
that's different.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
It's different.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
That's a team thing too, that's a team thing. That's
totally different exactly and the same thing.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Uh, you know in a game against the Giants, you
don't know the giants they might have and you know this, he.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Ain't doing it against us.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
We going for him, Wenna, were gonna make him feel
it or whatever you want. Guys going after sa Kuan
like that, like you know what I mean, trying to
stop him and maybe let's get a we'll take a
penalty or two, you know what I mean, to let
him know that no, you're not not today, not against us.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
And that's the thing that's crazy about that as well.
Like obviously the other part of that story that we
didn't even talk about yet, and I don't think a
lot of people are is it is against the Giants.
So the story would be amazing, right, he wiped the
record against his former.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Team that didn't want them, didn't sign them, and they
picked Daniel Jones over him exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
That added layer would be that's a that's a sexy thing,
that's a sex story, right.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But be the adult.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
And I think for once, Nick Sirianni is the adult
in the room, and you sit that guy in and I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Sure that they had a conversation.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
And here's why I don't believe this is against sa
Quon's wishes. Earlier against the Giants, he had a chance
to break a record in the game and they went
to him and said, dude, you could play if you want,
whatever you want to do, we're cool with it. Now
let the other guys get some wrong. That's right, So
that that's in his makeup, right, because he could have
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easily said, oh, yeah, I'm balling today. They can't stop me,
let me go back out there.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
He didn't care.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, No, it was a good thing for him, and
it's definitely a good sign of him being a teammate.
And you can see the way he's you know, kind
of interjected, kind of put himself in that situation in
that locker room, and the guys love him.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
If you can't tell me that they don't, won't have
mad respect because he's looked looking at it from we
have bigger fish to fry. We're trying to make a
run to the super Bowl. I'm a big part of that.
I can't be gimpy. I can't get hurt in a
meaningless game against a bad football team because I want
some record that who knows if I'll.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Even have it five years from now.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You like, I get it. If it happened.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
During the natural course of a season, then of course,
if they were playing to get into the playoffs, then
he would play Game seventeen, right, yes, and it would
be no if ans or bots.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
He would play. And even in this game the Lar's playing,
you know why, they can win the division.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
He has to play. Yes, yeah, no, No, the game's meaningful.
And even with say Kwan last week, you can tell
where this was going. They gave him the ball on
that last drive. He was in the game every play.
It's like, all right, I know what you're doing. You're
trying to get him the record now. And it doesn't
even the game when you look at it doesn't even
look good anymore because it's it's not a game. It's
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an intentional thing to get somebody. It doesn't flow well.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It doesn't the aesthetics look like all. They're force feeding him.
This isn't the natural. He had forty carries, that's you
know what I mean. And you start doing that, but
you put the more you hand it to him, there's
more risk that something can happen. And that's unnatural. And
that's why you gotta be I get it. And if
records happen. It's not like other sports. You don't have
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the injury issue. No one says, oh, don't play Aaron
Judge the last three games because the Yankees are going
to the plays. No, they had no effect. Nah basketball,
you don't look at it. Oh don't play what no football?
You could get hurt or your or your guards could
get hurt or somebody, you know what I mean, Like
other players could get hurt in the process of a
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meaningless game.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
And the running back and the linemen and those positions
they take so much punishment every play. Those linemen, they
get their legs rolled up every play almost you do
that forty times in the game. Somebody is going to
be gampy. And it's like, that's the thing, and that's
what and that's the risk. Can you throw the ball
a couple of times so we're not in the you
know what I mean, like because when they're throwing it,
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you're not you're not nearly involved.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Okay, one, two, and the ball's off, so I'm not
getting hit right exactly. It's it's something.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But but you agree with me that he's out of
he's out of the m v P.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Oh, yeah, he's out. He's not. He had to get
the record to get it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
To even have a chance, and and uh, I'm not
even sure he would have won automatically even with the record.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
No, not automatically, not automatically.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Because it would have been Football is weird now from
the standpoint that if you don't have a quarterback, you
don't have a team. Would you agree with that right now?
Like you just like the quarterback is the most important thing,
Trent Dilford right now? And even and then when they won,
they had a historic history defense. I mean they set
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all contract. That was the most unbelievable defense running game.
Was don't forget about Lewis. That was Mark Lewis. H
that was Marvin Lewis.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Right yes.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
And then the other one was the Super Bowl I
remember covering in two thousand was that when was the
Raiders with that two thousand and two?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Rob G?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Two thousand and two. I think it was the number
one offense right against the number one defense. And I
want to say Tampa Bay scored Their defense scored as
many points as their offense. You remember that they just
kept grabbing interception scoring, rob G.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Did you watch the entire game that Super Bowl or
did you turn it off? You did? That? Was that
was ugly? That was bad.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But that was John Gruden. Knew everything that they were
doing and it was not good.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
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Speaker 1 (20:06):
That's right, the former NFL tight end, host of The
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New Year. What's going on? Say hello to Kerry Rhoades.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
What's up? What's up? Man?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
What up? What up? Man? Hey? Rob Rod? Right, I
can count on you to kick you to a kick
a man? Oh me, Hey, Rob, Rob, I got it.
I got a text from my old producer and said,
it's quieter than a ret urinating in here.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
There you go. You know my saying this, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Man, we I mean I was told by people Oregon
by twenty. In this game against Ohio State, I know
Ohio was. I'll State was two and a half point
favorites going in.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
What what hop? And Lucy.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
All right? So I make no excuses because Ohio State
they won this game fair and square. There's no cheating,
there's no rest, there's no like, there's nobody to play.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Now.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
I do think that a few things that that we
are going to have to examine, especially after that Notre
Dame in Georgia Georgia game, because these uh these are
teams that that had the buys. They've been off for
twenty five days. They've not played a football game in
twenty five days. So I do think that the and
all three of the teams, even though Boise and Arizona
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State were bigger under underdogs, that they started out very
very slowly too, compared to the teams that played the
previous week. And if the same thing happens to Georgia
as well, I think that there's that that that could
be a trend, that it's something similar to what we're
seeing in baseball, where where the teams that have the
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buys in the in the first round.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
We sell.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
This past year because the Yankees and Dodgers made it
all the way through the first year, You're right, all
the good teams got knocked out.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
So I do think that there could be an adjustment
period in terms of the coaches, right that they may
have to handle their team differently because I don't know
if Dave Roberts and you know, and if he did
something different with the Dodgers this year compared to the
previous year where but I do think that that's something
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to take note of. And you know, so Oregon started
out flat, and Ohio State just jumped on them. And
once you're down third thirty four to nothing in the
first half, I mean, it was unbelievable. Then Oregon scores
at the end of the half, okay, eight, thirty four eight,
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they come back out score again. Now now it's fifteen
to thirty four, and then they and then they got
to stop. But at that point in time, you know,
if you get, if you do anything except go touchdown
touchdown touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Right, it was still down three scores even with that score, right,
it was thirty four fifteen r Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Exactly exactly. So it's so it's tough sledding, and kudos
to Ohio State. But I do think it's funny how
these narratives run. Is that up until today it was
Dan Lanny he figured out how to win the Big
One and blah blah blah after beating Ohio State and
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then Fenn State in the Big Ten championship, and now
it's all, man, he'll never win the Big One. And
then we've seen how much the narrative flip flops. On
Ryan Day, the Ohio State head coach, as.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Well, well, it's funny you said something about Dan Lennon
and his propensity to I guess not win the big
game or win the big game, whatever side.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You sit on. But we had a discussion before.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
You came on about Kyle Shanahan, right, Caylesh, Oh my god, yeah,
Kyle sen in hand with San Francisco. Right, So we said,
m has his era been great? Good of garbage and
hot garbage?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah? Rob said hot garbage. I said good. But where
would you rank that? What would you rank Kyle Shanahan's
tenure right now?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
I would say said really good? First of all, and Rob,
Rob has lost his ever loving heart. Because the first
thing is, yes, it is unfortunate that the that the
man has lost the Super Bowl twice, right, I say.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Three times because I count.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
George he was Yeah, but he was an offensive corner.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yes, George, you remember those calls at the end of
that game.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Come on, hold on, hold hold on, no, no, no, no, no,
I'm not I'm not excusing any anything. I do think
that in the first Super Bowl, if Jimmy Garoppolo can
actually complete a pass to a wide open guy and
then then then he wins the game. But but first
of all, do you know how hard it is to
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find coaches to lose in the Super Bowl. That's the
that's the first thing I got.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I got two of them that lost four super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
His name is Bud Grant and Marvel Leman both lost
for Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
How's that?
Speaker 6 (25:07):
And and do you know what? Uh, the the alternative
is do you know how hard it is to replace
a coach? That is that good? First of all? And
the second thing, Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Your history in football is very vague because yesterday, George
hold On, because because because I saw it happen. Don't
you remember Tony Dungee was the all world coach in
Tampa Bay and they fired him.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And guess what happened? They won a super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Doesn't very next year it happens, It does happen.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
It is those are outlier results.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Oh, it's what it can happen there and.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
And the and the second thing is this is that
San Francisco season this year was actually doomed prior prior
to the seasons even starting if you pay attention this
year and pre previous years pretty much all all the time,
when when teams have contract issues with some of their
best players, it's a disaster. And San Francisco had an
(26:07):
issue with Brandon and I you that drug on way
too long, and the and the left tackle, the Cincinnati
Bengals issues with t Higgins and with Jamar Chase all
off season over a contracts, and it infects the team
and it bothers the chemistry of the team, and all
of the teams that well, not all of them, but
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the vast majority of times when you have multiple contract
issues on a team, it breeds some resentment with the
players and the organization. So I would judge Kyle Kyle
Shanahan Senior as a great success of it because you've
been to the Super Bowl twice, and I would rather
a guy figure out how to how to make one, two,
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three calls better in a Super Bowl than then to
try to then try to replay because of Jim Harbo's
not walking through that door. He's already in LA right now.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
How about this last thing. Lamar Jackson, I think he's
the MVP. I expect him to play well and beat
the Browns win the division. The team started owing two.
He has the third best quarterback waiting for a single season.
Aaron Rodgers has the first two, Lamar would be third
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and Peyton Manning would be fourth. Of all the quarterbacks
who got thirty five or more touchdowns and less than
six interceptions, there have been seven in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Six of them all won the MVP.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
The one guy who didn't win was Patrick Mahomes because
Aaron Rodgers beat him out in that very same season
For the MVP.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Who is your MVP and why it.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Is Lamar Jackson. These stats are unbelievable and his team
is winning. If they win the division, he should absolutely
be the MVP. Here is the here's the issue that
Lamar is up against. It is like when when NBA
NBA voters NFL voters, they just want a new face.
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They want josh Allen to be the MVP so bad.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Oh, they But that's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
I just saw the rob The NFL put out a
tweet to day, Oh, here are the most touchdown passes
in all of twenty twenty four. So they were counting
the playoffs from last year as well?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yes they did, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Yes, they put out they want Josh Allen to be
the MVP so bad. That's that's the issue, and that's
what Lamar Jackson is up against.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
But it shouldn't happen because they gave Brett FAVV three
straight MVPs.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
And and do you know what else they're going to say.
They are going to say, well, it's because I mean
Derek Henry. He's got Derek Henbry. Peyton Manning won in
Q with Ed James, yes at running back, and I
believe that he was an All Pro that year two. George,
it's narrative man.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that and Marvin Harrison too.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
That's a joke when I right hear that that he
had he has weapons.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
What and nobody would trade there? There is none of
the well and first of all, if and I must
be honest, if Joe Burrow were on a you know,
a nine and seventeen team or a ten win team,
he should be the MVP probably. I mean he is
playing insane football.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Hey, for the first time, George was on the show.
And George Reister is the correct name, not George Wrongs.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
You were You were absolutely right with lamar. George. Did
you put up with this? George? I'm many We.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Got rob robbed us some day drinking.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Sometimes it's called ice.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
See the half I see half lemonade? Yeah, ok, yeah,
there you go, Hey, George, Thank you, George.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Happy New Year. To you and your family. Man, I
appreciate it all right,
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Texas, of course, won that thrilling game earlier today against
Arizona State double overton.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
So who missed the field goal?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Though? Was that?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
All was Texas?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
They could have won it over and regular regulation? Okay,
because I knew somebody missed the field.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
College kickers man, I believe he missed two fields too.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, if you took down his football pants, they might
be brown, you know, Like, let's just be honest.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Well, his last name is Auburn, So this is you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Like like rob g, I know everybody thinksych it's just
a piece of cake. Like there's pressure there, right, Yeah,
of course there's big pressure, you know it. You want
to be a big man on campus, so you want
to be you know, shun It's the craziest position in
the playoffs. I mean, you're out there as a quarterback
or a receiver or whatever your position is, you have
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chances to make a mistake and you're gonna you can
kind of double down and and win some as well.
But when you're a kicker, those those opportunities are limited. Yes,
either you're that the man on campus or they can't
stand to yep.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
And so that kicker had his bacon saved by Quinniers
because Quinny Ears, even though with the interception, had a
pretty very solid day for Texas twenty thirty three, twenty
two through the air, three touchdowns. He also added like a.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Couple of shrimp cures, skewers, I'm sorry, oh man.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And so you would think that after that game that
the whole thing was, Hey, Texas got the win, Sark advances,
quinn yours does it again. However, there was a cloud
hanging over this team and above this program coming into
the game that he still hasn't fully dissipated. And that's
because of a couple of reports, one of them being
(02:05):
that regardless what happens during this playoff run with Texas, well.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
They can win the national championship and it won't.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And it won't change him exactly whether they win the
championship where they get blown.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Out and would that be thrown out there before? Let
can it play out?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
So the report is that arch Manning will be the
starter in twenty twenty four. Wow, no matter what that
that's their plan. They're going to move forward with him.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Well, I figured that since.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
His uncle's going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
But that's another story. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But so that of course leaves yours in an interesting situation.
Most had assumed that he would probably end up going
to the draft. He's projected somewhere between the second and
fourth round. However, before the game, and actually a couple
of days ago, was reported that several teams have already
contacted yours and his representatives, which would be illegal. This
(02:56):
is tampering because this team is still playing and have
said that if he's willing to forego the NFL Draft,
they have an nil deal on the table for six
million dollars to come play for our school next season.
You're not gonna play for Texas. We already know that.
If you don't go to the draft, come play for
us and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I saw that, Yeah, well, I'm gonna say this carry
Its real simple. The reason you have the WAW Wild
West going on and the nil and all this and
the other thing. Dion said this, and it's so true.
Everybody ain't making a million dollars. Who's playing college football? Okay,
like like, stop with everybody, because I hear people like,
oh did you play? They all getting paid there? Pro No,
(03:39):
everybody's not getting paid. No, everybody, stop it. But the
college football they're to blame for this because instead of
taking this by the Horns Carrie, allocating the kind of
money that's going to be spent, taking it out of
(03:59):
their pocket, their money that they're getting from the TV network,
they're like, no, we're not Nope. Boosters. What do they
call those people who just donate money? I think there's
a word for him boosters. No, but there's some new
word while people who just you know, put up money
and I'll get I can't remember what they call it.
(04:22):
But my point is, once you do that and allow
other people to get involved, you have no.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Control of this.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
They've allowed someone to dictate where people are going because
they refuse to pay. Set up a salary cap, set
up some rules and regulations.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
If it's your money, you can do that. It's not
your money, so they can't say anything.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
They should have had a I guess this regulation thing
that should have happened. This is my idea when I
first heard about you know and IO possibly happening. Right,
there could be a big pot of money and the
thing that would make players and think you know, the
guys that don't make the million millions of dollars on
that team stay committed to your program is you get
this allotment of money, you put it in the pot
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and you dib it out equally, Like how would you
would now? Would you cheer the players?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And what I'm saying is, uh, everybody gets kind of classified, right,
I know what you mean.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
So just so it's like if you're an a player,
you b C and a d well a guy who
doesn't play, but that doesn't matter. But that part doesn't matter.
If you get the big pot of money, you put
it there and you dib it out equally. The unknown
money that the boosters still are going to give you
anyway could compensate for the ones that are in the
different tiers you're saying, So just for the money that
you get that you could bring in as a as
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an organization from the boosters that you put aside. This
is what we have to offer for the year. The
players you bring in almost like like like a forgetency
in NFL, right, Like, we have this amount of money
to spend. The people we're bringing in to come into
play will fall under the unbrelliant with digby it evenly.
I think that would also even the plan field for
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the talent that we see on the field as well.
Ohio State has more money to pay these players, and
so when you look at this team on when they're
playing at their best, they're the best team in college
football because they can pay the most money.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
They spend twenty million or something. It's ridiculous. It was something.
That number is crazy. So that's was it.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Twenty million, rob g like Ohio State. It was something
like that. It's a crazy number. It's the players they.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Had like Eboca. Things name is Iboca from from Ohio State.
He could have went pro and came back because he's
making just as much money as he would have made.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
It a right, it's crazy. It is crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
And if you're Quinn right, Okay, I don't think there's
even a choice. He's not projected to be a top
pick in the first round, right, so, and never already
told you that they're moving on and they want to
get the other the baby manning in Right, so, why
not put yourself in the portal, take six million, and
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go somewhere else and play.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I think there's a layout a thousand thousand percent, right,
I mean, the other alternative doesn't even match up to that.
You're going to be holding the clipboard in the NFL
and not making you know, he'll get a four hundred
thousand dollars signing bonus. When you can make six million
playing college football and not be worried about it, you can.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
He can even stink. It doesn't matter. And I'm not
even mad at the players. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I think they deserve all that they get. They have
been taking advantage of way too long. I always said
the NCAA was organized crime. I mean I still to
this day. And then all these coaches now you know
who want to quit and oh, I just I can't
with the game. But they can bounce whenever they want.
(07:43):
They recruit you, go to your house, tell your parents this,
that and the other thing, and then they.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Decide oh yeah, I got a better deal. I'm on it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I'm not even coaching the ball game, please, I'm out
ready to recruit. And then they frown at the kids.
I just don't even get it quits. Yeah, it's nuts.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I know.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Obviously I came. I came along a little bit too late.
But uh, you look at that. There's actually I know
that some some players they have a carry. People would
get money when you played, not six million dollars, I
say that people were getting money. Yeah, people were getting
a little at little scratched.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I got you got a few, but not no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
not that kind. Because I remember when I was covering
Saint John's basketball, and I remember the big scuttle butt
was about Chris Mullin had a no show job at
a car dealership, you know what I mean, like a
booster for Saint John's or whatever. And he had a
job and never showed up and they paid him every week,
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you know what I mean, Like that's what they used.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
To do, right, Yeah, And I went to Louisville.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
So you talk about the basketball recruits, that was a
different that was a different deal, right.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well, guys, just to put into context, what this six
million dollars would be obviously would be the biggest NIL
deal ever. So On three, the people who reported this
story the first time, and you know, these NII deals
are kind of under the table. No one really knows
what they're getting.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
It's kind of a gain.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And then there's some people who have not gotten their money,
you know, right, because it's not on the other night.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So there's three quarterbacks this year that transferred that kind
of everybody know. They're more of the household transfer quarterbacks.
Miami's Cam Ward who left Washington State, Ohio States. Will
Howard is putting on a show today in the Rose Bowl,
left Kansas State, Syracuse Kyle McCord who was forced out
of Ohio State so they could get Will Howard. Those
three guys combined, according to On three, got four million
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dollars combined for the three of them, and quinn Ewers
could get six.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Yeah, that makes more sense Rob that that number six
doesn't sound real pretty high, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Well, it depends on depending on who you read.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
The teams that allegedly are involved in the situation are
two schools with very deep pockets that would be Notre
Dame in US.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, they got plenty money.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
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Speaker 4 (10:13):
Let's go here.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And the Eagles, Philadelphia Eagles, yep, who have a meaningless
game against the New York Football Giants on Sunday. Right,
their position in the postseason can't change carry, right, So
they're locked in. I think at number two? Is that
what they are? So it's a meaningless game, yep. So
we know sa Kwan is one hundred and one yards
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away from breaking the record that Eric Dickerson did in
sixteen games. Yes, this would be seventeen, right.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you
on that one for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So that part of it, okay, But it would count
as the record because when Eric Dickerson broke Ojy's record,
broke oj did it in fourteen game.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
That's right, right, okay. But here's the real thing.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I think the Eagles are smart, and I think the
Eagles are right, and I know people are like, oh,
it's not fair. You know, Saquon's had this unbelievable year.
He could set the records within reach or whatever, But
what what is the big goal?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
The big goal is to make a run and a
chance to win a Super.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Of course, number two is this isn't Saquon on an
island because you can't rest the other starters and put
in a second and third string for him to try
to get it. So everybody has to play, Carrie, what
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if you lose a tackle or two trying to get
this record in a meaningless game. There's no buy, no
extra week for them to rest. They played the following week, right, Okay,
So it's not just him, it's the starters. If you're
gonna go for the everybody has to play.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
And that's why I think it makes sense even just
for the team chemistry. If he was a player and
the other guys weren't playing, like obviously, the optics look bad.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I mean, we all know what you're doing.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
And if it was the other way around, the other
starters were planning he wasn't playing, it would look bad
as well. So you just have to take into consideration
the optics for your team and what that looks like.
The Eagles are making the right decision. I do understand
people wanting to see it happen, but if the player
himself doesn't want to see it happen, Sa Kuan, if
he's not lobbying to get this done, it really doesn't
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matter because the legacy of what he did right now,
the only thing that would change is if he broke
that record. Obviously he's going to be in the record
books and we will always look back and say he
won over take don yards, say Kwan Barkley broke the record, right,
And so I think for his legacy moving on five
ten years out of the game, people aren't going to say, man,
say Kuan had a great year that year we had
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one thousand, nineteen hundred yards or whatever like. It'll be
talked about it as a footnote. If he broke the record,
it'll be talked about forever. And I think that's the
distinction that people are trying to, you know, weigh in on.
But for the Eagles, they got to sit him. You
got to get ready for the playoffs. You got bigger
fish to fry, right, And that's the issue.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
People want to see that. Oh I can't believe they're
not going to play him. Yeah, man, and you know football,
chance somebody could get hurt one play and if Saquan
just say Quon, yeah, hurts his knee and comes out
of the.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Game, they're done. Then you're like, what, Yeah, they're done?
Where what were we doing?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Then you would say the coach is dumb. How could
they be playing them? Like you're putting your setting yourself up.
The Chiefs have no day. They've already shown up the number.
They're not playing Patrick Mahomes for what.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
What would be the reason? There's no reason.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Oh well, we don't want to lose the last game
of the year. We lost only one. We only want
to have one. Nobody cares about that. Were you were
you undefeated? Now, if you had a chance to go undefeated,
that's different.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
It's different.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
That's a team thing too, that's a team thing. That's
totally different exactly and the same thing.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Uh, you know in a game against the Giants, you
don't know the giants they might have and you know this, he.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Ain't doing it against us.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
We going for him, Wenna, were gonna make him feel
it or whatever you want. Guys going after sa Kuan
like that, like you know what I mean, trying to
stop him and maybe let's get a we'll take a
penalty or two, you know what I mean, to let
him know that no, you're not not today, not against us.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
And that's the thing that's crazy about that as well.
Like obviously the other part of that story that we
didn't even talk about yet, and I don't think a
lot of people are is it is against the Giants.
So the story would be amazing, right, he wiped the
record against his former.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Team that didn't want them, didn't sign them, and they
picked Daniel Jones over him exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
That added layer would be that's a that's a sexy thing,
that's a sex story, right.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But be the adult.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
And I think for once, Nick Sirianni is the adult
in the room, and you sit that guy in and I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Sure that they had a conversation.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
And here's why I don't believe this is against sa
Quon's wishes. Earlier against the Giants, he had a chance
to break a record in the game and they went
to him and said, dude, you could play if you want,
whatever you want to do, we're cool with it. Now
let the other guys get some wrong. That's right, So
that that's in his makeup, right, because he could have
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easily said, oh, yeah, I'm balling today. They can't stop me,
let me go back out there.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
He didn't care.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, No, it was a good thing for him, and
it's definitely a good sign of him being a teammate.
And you can see the way he's you know, kind
of interjected, kind of put himself in that situation in
that locker room, and the guys love him.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
If you can't tell me that they don't, won't have
mad respect because he's looked looking at it from we
have bigger fish to fry. We're trying to make a
run to the super Bowl. I'm a big part of that.
I can't be gimpy. I can't get hurt in a
meaningless game against a bad football team because I want
some record that who knows if I'll.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Even have it five years from now.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You like, I get it. If it happened.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
During the natural course of a season, then of course,
if they were playing to get into the playoffs, then
he would play Game seventeen, right, yes, and it would
be no if ans or bots.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
He would play. And even in this game the Lar's playing,
you know why, they can win the division.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
He has to play. Yes, yeah, no, No, the game's meaningful.
And even with say Kwan last week, you can tell
where this was going. They gave him the ball on
that last drive. He was in the game every play.
It's like, all right, I know what you're doing. You're
trying to get him the record now. And it doesn't
even the game when you look at it doesn't even
look good anymore because it's it's not a game. It's
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an intentional thing to get somebody. It doesn't flow well.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It doesn't the aesthetics look like all. They're force feeding him.
This isn't the natural. He had forty carries, that's you
know what I mean. And you start doing that, but
you put the more you hand it to him, there's
more risk that something can happen. And that's unnatural. And
that's why you gotta be I get it. And if
records happen. It's not like other sports. You don't have
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the injury issue. No one says, oh, don't play Aaron
Judge the last three games because the Yankees are going
to the plays. No, they had no effect. Nah basketball,
you don't look at it. Oh don't play what no football?
You could get hurt or your or your guards could
get hurt or somebody, you know what I mean, Like
other players could get hurt in the process of a
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meaningless game.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
And the running back and the linemen and those positions
they take so much punishment every play. Those linemen, they
get their legs rolled up every play almost you do
that forty times in the game. Somebody is going to
be gampy. And it's like, that's the thing, and that's
what and that's the risk. Can you throw the ball
a couple of times so we're not in the you
know what I mean, like because when they're throwing it,
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you're not you're not nearly involved.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Okay, one, two, and the ball's off, so I'm not
getting hit right exactly. It's it's something.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But but you agree with me that he's out of
he's out of the m v P.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Oh, yeah, he's out. He's not. He had to get
the record to get it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
To even have a chance, and and uh, I'm not
even sure he would have won automatically even with the record.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
No, not automatically, not automatically.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Because it would have been Football is weird now from
the standpoint that if you don't have a quarterback, you
don't have a team. Would you agree with that right now?
Like you just like the quarterback is the most important thing,
Trent Dilford right now? And even and then when they won,
they had a historic history defense. I mean they set
(19:04):
all contract. That was the most unbelievable defense running game.
Was don't forget about Lewis. That was Mark Lewis. H
that was Marvin Lewis.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Right yes.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
And then the other one was the Super Bowl I
remember covering in two thousand was that when was the
Raiders with that two thousand and two?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Rob G?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Two thousand and two. I think it was the number
one offense right against the number one defense. And I
want to say Tampa Bay scored Their defense scored as
many points as their offense. You remember that they just
kept grabbing interception scoring, rob G.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Did you watch the entire game that Super Bowl or
did you turn it off? You did? That? Was that
was ugly? That was bad.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But that was John Gruden. Knew everything that they were
doing and it was not good.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
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Speaker 4 (20:04):
Live George Reister.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
That's right, the former NFL tight end, host of The
Unafraid Show on YouTube and a sad sack member of
the old Oregon Ducks. Now I'm just playing George, Happy
New Year. What's going on? Say hello to Kerry Rhoades.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
What's up? What's up? Man?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
What up? What up? Man? Hey? Rob Rod? Right, I
can count on you to kick you to a kick
a man? Oh me, Hey, Rob, Rob, I got it.
I got a text from my old producer and said,
it's quieter than a ret urinating in here.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
There you go. You know my saying this, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Man, we I mean I was told by people Oregon
by twenty. In this game against Ohio State, I know
Ohio was. I'll State was two and a half point
favorites going in.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
What what hop? And Lucy.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
All right? So I make no excuses because Ohio State
they won this game fair and square. There's no cheating,
there's no rest, there's no like, there's nobody to play.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Now.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
I do think that a few things that that we
are going to have to examine, especially after that Notre
Dame in Georgia Georgia game, because these uh these are
teams that that had the buys. They've been off for
twenty five days. They've not played a football game in
twenty five days. So I do think that the and
all three of the teams, even though Boise and Arizona
(21:34):
State were bigger under underdogs, that they started out very
very slowly too, compared to the teams that played the
previous week. And if the same thing happens to Georgia
as well, I think that there's that that that could
be a trend, that it's something similar to what we're
seeing in baseball, where where the teams that have the
(21:54):
buys in the in the first round.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
We sell.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
This past year because the Yankees and Dodgers made it
all the way through the first year, You're right, all
the good teams got knocked out.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
So I do think that there could be an adjustment
period in terms of the coaches, right that they may
have to handle their team differently because I don't know
if Dave Roberts and you know, and if he did
something different with the Dodgers this year compared to the
previous year where but I do think that that's something
(22:30):
to take note of. And you know, so Oregon started
out flat, and Ohio State just jumped on them. And
once you're down third thirty four to nothing in the
first half, I mean, it was unbelievable. Then Oregon scores
at the end of the half, okay, eight, thirty four eight,
(22:51):
they come back out score again. Now now it's fifteen
to thirty four, and then they and then they got
to stop. But at that point in time, you know,
if you get, if you do anything except go touchdown
touchdown touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Right, it was still down three scores even with that score, right,
it was thirty four fifteen r Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Exactly exactly. So it's so it's tough sledding, and kudos
to Ohio State. But I do think it's funny how
these narratives run. Is that up until today it was
Dan Lanny he figured out how to win the Big
One and blah blah blah after beating Ohio State and
(23:30):
then Fenn State in the Big Ten championship, and now
it's all, man, he'll never win the Big One. And
then we've seen how much the narrative flip flops. On
Ryan Day, the Ohio State head coach, as.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Well, well, it's funny you said something about Dan Lennon
and his propensity to I guess not win the big
game or win the big game, whatever side.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You sit on. But we had a discussion before.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
You came on about Kyle Shanahan, right, Caylesh, Oh my god, yeah,
Kyle sen in hand with San Francisco. Right, So we said,
m has his era been great? Good of garbage and
hot garbage?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah? Rob said hot garbage. I said good. But where
would you rank that? What would you rank Kyle Shanahan's
tenure right now?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
I would say said really good? First of all, and Rob,
Rob has lost his ever loving heart. Because the first
thing is, yes, it is unfortunate that the that the
man has lost the Super Bowl twice, right, I say.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Three times because I count.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
George he was Yeah, but he was an offensive corner.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yes, George, you remember those calls at the end of
that game.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Come on, hold on, hold hold on, no, no, no, no, no,
I'm not I'm not excusing any anything. I do think
that in the first Super Bowl, if Jimmy Garoppolo can
actually complete a pass to a wide open guy and
then then then he wins the game. But but first
of all, do you know how hard it is to
(24:54):
find coaches to lose in the Super Bowl. That's the
that's the first thing I got.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I got two of them that lost four super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
His name is Bud Grant and Marvel Leman both lost
for Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
How's that?
Speaker 6 (25:07):
And and do you know what? Uh, the the alternative
is do you know how hard it is to replace
a coach? That is that good? First of all? And
the second thing, Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Your history in football is very vague because yesterday, George
hold On, because because because I saw it happen. Don't
you remember Tony Dungee was the all world coach in
Tampa Bay and they fired him.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And guess what happened? They won a super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Doesn't very next year it happens, It does happen.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
It is those are outlier results.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Oh, it's what it can happen there and.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
And the and the second thing is this is that
San Francisco season this year was actually doomed prior prior
to the seasons even starting if you pay attention this
year and pre previous years pretty much all all the time,
when when teams have contract issues with some of their
best players, it's a disaster. And San Francisco had an
(26:07):
issue with Brandon and I you that drug on way
too long, and the and the left tackle, the Cincinnati
Bengals issues with t Higgins and with Jamar Chase all
off season over a contracts, and it infects the team
and it bothers the chemistry of the team, and all
of the teams that well, not all of them, but
(26:30):
the vast majority of times when you have multiple contract
issues on a team, it breeds some resentment with the
players and the organization. So I would judge Kyle Kyle
Shanahan Senior as a great success of it because you've
been to the Super Bowl twice, and I would rather
a guy figure out how to how to make one, two,
(26:53):
three calls better in a Super Bowl than then to
try to then try to replay because of Jim Harbo's
not walking through that door. He's already in LA right now.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
How about this last thing. Lamar Jackson, I think he's
the MVP. I expect him to play well and beat
the Browns win the division. The team started owing two.
He has the third best quarterback waiting for a single season.
Aaron Rodgers has the first two, Lamar would be third
(27:25):
and Peyton Manning would be fourth. Of all the quarterbacks
who got thirty five or more touchdowns and less than
six interceptions, there have been seven in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Six of them all won the MVP.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
The one guy who didn't win was Patrick Mahomes because
Aaron Rodgers beat him out in that very same season
For the MVP.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Who is your MVP and why it.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Is Lamar Jackson. These stats are unbelievable and his team
is winning. If they win the division, he should absolutely
be the MVP. Here is the here's the issue that
Lamar is up against. It is like when when NBA
NBA voters NFL voters, they just want a new face.
(28:10):
They want josh Allen to be the MVP so bad.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Oh, they But that's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
I just saw the rob The NFL put out a
tweet to day, Oh, here are the most touchdown passes
in all of twenty twenty four. So they were counting
the playoffs from last year as well?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yes they did, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Yes, they put out they want Josh Allen to be
the MVP so bad. That's that's the issue, and that's
what Lamar Jackson is up against.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
But it shouldn't happen because they gave Brett FAVV three
straight MVPs.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
And and do you know what else they're going to say.
They are going to say, well, it's because I mean
Derek Henry. He's got Derek Henbry. Peyton Manning won in
Q with Ed James, yes at running back, and I
believe that he was an All Pro that year two. George,
it's narrative man.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that and Marvin Harrison too.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
That's a joke when I right hear that that he
had he has weapons.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
What and nobody would trade there? There is none of
the well and first of all, if and I must
be honest, if Joe Burrow were on a you know,
a nine and seventeen team or a ten win team,
he should be the MVP probably. I mean he is
playing insane football.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Hey, for the first time, George was on the show.
And George Reister is the correct name, not George Wrongs.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
You were You were absolutely right with lamar. George. Did
you put up with this? George? I'm many We.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Got rob robbed us some day drinking.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Sometimes it's called ice.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
See the half I see half lemonade? Yeah, ok, yeah,
there you go, Hey, George, Thank you, George.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Happy New Year. To you and your family. Man, I
appreciate it all right,
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