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January 21, 2025 37 mins

Rob and Kelvin take Kirk Herbstreit to task for failing to be objective after Ohio State won the College Football National Champion and discuss how Ryan Day’s life in Ohio has changed after winning his first natty. Plus, former NFL cornerback Fred Smoot swings by to discuss what makes Jayden Daniels so dangerous, why he’s picking the Washington Commanders to upset the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC Championship, how the Commanders would matchup in a hypothetical Super Bowl showdown with the Kansas City Chiefs and much more!

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Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, by the way, real quick may jump in. You
get in on these these push ups we're doing you
get that not till after the after Super Bowl. I'm
just I'm keeping what you want to be swollen in
New Orleans. Yeah, we're trying to walk around. You got
us so best. We got to walk around with the vest.
It's not snowing down there. We're wearing them. We need
the vest. Rob, Gee, where you're.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Going under we'rest all right, sleeveless.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
We're going sleeveless vest. You got them?

Speaker 6 (01:48):
Tell you, Rob, Rob, I understand why you told Scott
you don't want me to go. I get it now. Oh,
I see it now. No, I would never do one
picture of me without him. You don't want me now, man,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Want you either, now I think about it, because you're
gonna be down there getting automatic grab.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
Yeah, they be all right, just the best too. Nothing
but nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh my god, I told you I'm trying to get
ripped up so one day I could do my news,
my morning news show. And it's gonna people are gonna
be like, man, either he has on a chocolate shirt
or that man ain't got on no shirt, and I
will have no shirt but a suit on. I can't wait.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
I've seen there are colored shirts like that where I
have to You're like.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Wait, whita what? Yeah, I want to catch him off.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
God like, t O over there, honey, just t o.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Oh glad you mentioned it, because's somebody'm about to mention here
in a minute.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
All right, let's do this.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
So the college football season ended last night National Championship
Ohio State beating Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's like a blowout for the most part. Remember I
told you that's what they're gonna do. It still was
a blowout, but they can know for their own personal
for the rest of their life, they gonna be like
I was in that's championship. It was really close, yeah,
because that was looking like it was about to be
forty two to seven.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, that was pretty bad.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
But we had an embarrassing moment, Oh boy, us in
the game, and it involved Kirk Herbstreet, who's the color
analyst for ESPN and ABC.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
And let's take a listen.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I'm a little emotional, you know. I I'm just fired
up for these guys.

Speaker 7 (03:16):
I it's you know, when I call these games, I'm
incredibly objective and I you know, I love all these
Ohio State teams, but this team, because of what they
went through to get to this point, you're just happy,
you know.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Was minimum by the way, Yeah, and he stepped out
of the camera site so that he could wipe his
eyes because he's crying. I mean, he put none of them.
That was the worst part because Fowler's just talking and
he's just off to the side.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Here, here we go, the most embarrassing moment for a broadcaster.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
And I'm dead serious.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
This is my big argument about athletes in these roles
because they claim that they're objective and they're not. They're
not for him to even have to say. And you know,
when I do these games, I'm objective. I had to
say that, incredibly objective. But you're crying like a baby.
And here's the problem. I've said this before. Tiki Barber

(04:18):
backing the Giants with Sai Kwan and Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
He's a part. He's won that uniform.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Kirk Kurbstreet can say whatever he wants, he's won that uniform.
To me, it would be like and then they say, well,
what about Joe Davis.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
He does the Dodger games.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Right, did Joe Davis boo? Who?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
When the Dodgers won the.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
World Series on Fox, some people were mad. They felt
like he wasn't talking.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
About exactly, Okay, because he's a professional.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
How did Mike How did Charles Barkley lose one of
his best friends ever?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
He caught out Michael Jordan. He called him out and said,
terrible owner GM.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Okay, most of the players in the NBA hate Charles Barkley,
don't they because the guy is honest. Yet he's one
of the best analysts out there, and a lot of
these guys can't shake it. Can you imagine if we
watched the election coverage and Anderson Cooper started boohooing because
Trump won the election.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Well, I'm just saying.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Okay, you get what I'm saying. You can't do that
if you want to be in this business. And Kirk
curb Street, that's an embarrassing moment for his broadcast career.
How can any coach, any player, anybody take anything he says?
Right seriously, when he bleeds, scall it, call it red

(05:39):
from Ohio State, And I get it.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I guess sure everybody can be happy. He can be hey,
you know, like he took it. Here's by let me
jump a terrible moment. Here's my issue. You remember what
he did a few weeks ago well, he got mad
so much so that he called out his own colleagues
about them and they and what they saying, and called
out Shannon Sharpen them chain and first take like his

(06:03):
own colleagues about a game about a dude, it's a
first it's a debate show. They're gonna debate things, their opinions,
their opinion on the debate show that typically, especially those two,
they're not far reaching. They're not other shows that say crazy,
asinine stuff. And you called your own colleagues out on
the air, Number one, Hold on. That shows me you're
getting too emotional in this. You're calling people out on air,

(06:25):
not just random while who's fans or something. You're calling
out your colleagues. Dude, that's kind of cause to attach to.
That's my point. So that's number one. And is this
ain't a matter of years whereas this is all like
a few weeks. You're calling out your colleagues, then you're
getting emotional so much so out if you'd have just
played the table. I thought it was Tyo, that's my quarterback.
I thought he was. Everybody hit me with the that's

(06:47):
my quarterback. Nobody's saying you can't be excited nobody can't.
We all know where you went to school. We understand that,
we know you have personal relationships, but you gotta hold
on for three minutes. And as they say on the streets,
he gonna cry in the car. You can cry in
the car. You can do that. If this was your
last game, you ever recall him. You had a great
career and your school happened to win it. We all

(07:07):
would get it. But to say, I've been incredibly objective.
You just called out your own colleagues, called out fans who.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Justified you went to all the state and after that
it was witch after Ryan Day lost to Missions.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's what I say. You know, you're twenty one and
you lose Michigan unranked lost in Guinness Joe, you're one
and four against them. That's part of the job. Jim
Harbo had a heck of a career. But you know
when people kept questioning him and calling for a job,
when he would lose Ohio State, when he took a.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Pay cut at Michigan before he finally won the national championship.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
That's not far of us. So to go crazy on fans,
go crazy on the idea that Ryan Day when you
know the expectations, what they are? You know this and
then it specifically call out teammates and colleagues. I should say,
I just I thought that was too much coupled then
with this quarterback moment. Kirk heck of a career, one
of the better broadcasts view. But we can get punke

(08:02):
the breaks a little bit. No, like I said, I'm
not saying don't get emotional. I ain't saying that. You
got to tell them and you and the producer director
in your ear and man, go quick, we gotta need
to get out of this quick because I'm about to
have a moment. Dude, whatever you need to do, but
you can't have that full on moment right after you
just said I'm incredibly objective.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
It's it was a bad scene. And if you're a
TV executive that he.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
I didn't say that. I'm saying that you lose credibility.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
You can say whatever you want that they love him,
you lose credibility. And if another coach decides, wait, man,
you're an Ohio state.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
You cried on the air and then you say something.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
You say something now opposite Michigan, opposite Alabama.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
That's what he does. Just what y'all got well, I
thought it was supposed to be fair.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Like, that's what puts the network in a in a
in a weird spot. Oh you want to do an
interview with Kirk? Now you know what I'm straight? Okay,
he's got an Ohio State slam and he cried on
the air. I've been watching sports my whole life, and
this is my big pushback on athletes ex athletes becoming broadcasters.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's not that they can't.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
They have a better insight on being color analysts, but
as a fan watching and listening, they're compromised. He just
showed you on the biggest broadcast of college football this year,
how compromised these guys are. They're in bed with the teams,

(09:32):
they have relationships, and they can't break.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Away from it. So when you hear from them, I'm
not saying don't listen.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
To them or they don't have any credibility, but understand
they're compromised.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
They're not always gonna.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Give you the real story, the fair story, the accurate story.
There's too many entanglements and they can't break away from it.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Because that's your school. He wants to be liked He's
not gonna rip.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
He's gonna go on there and rip Ryan day after
they lost to Michigan on the air.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
No, it won't happen. And he the best part about
it too. There are some who we love and respect
who to do that. Troy Aikman, Troy Aman will go
at the team, he'll go at the refs, who go
at the legue just we just talked about it with
Patrick m'hall. Loved it. And Troy Aikman will go at
the cowboys. Hey, he just said, I don't think that's
a desirable job. That's a I mean, dude, he is

(10:30):
literally like mister cowboy quarterback during the nineties. Obviously Roger
Starbuck you know, sitting there too, but you know what
I mean, Like you're a cowboy than the ninety you
got three rings. And he'll go at Jerry. He loves Jerry,
but he'll keep it right. Hey, I don't like what
he do it. Hey he medals. Hey that's not desirable. Hey,
they need to be better in the offseason. So there
are people who do it correct. How many teams? How
many tell them? Do you watch the pregame show?

Speaker 5 (10:52):
And whatever team they played on, they always picked the team,
like like Siahs like, why would you Let's skip all.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Very often, let's skip this if this is what it's.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Going to be.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
And if you can't, okay, is it okay?

Speaker 5 (11:04):
You look at the matchup, your your your team, your
team you play for is banged up and the other
team is way better.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Right and so my only thing with that, what would
be the point on my only thing? I'm more on
the on the Kirk Curve Street side of like you're
calling the game. If you guys are just talking smack
and you're picking the game, you tongue in cheeks say
I don't give a dag if they hurt. I'm going
with the filling the blake. That's my I'm okay with
that because i know you're being outrageous.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
No, you see that doesn't bother me because I know
you're being outraged. Shouldn't you shouldn't do they're selling me
on quote incredibly objective. Yet you're going at people on
the air your own color. That to me is what
I having Kirk Curve Street picked every week Ohio State
to win. What I'm saying, but I'm that what is
the point on doing that segment? If everybody's going to

(11:49):
pick then I answer my point. I think a part
of that is, as you mentioned, the inside NBA, just
the fun side of it, like you're just gonna go
with your team, have fun tongue and cheek. That that
doesn't bother me because I know what you're doing. But
when you're supposed to be an incredibly objective role calling
a game, calling it as you see it and you're not,

(12:09):
that's an issue. Rob G.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
You've watched sports for a long time. You ever see that?
I know I haven't.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
During a broadcast, I've never seen.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I've never seen that.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I've seen the studio guys do it.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
A cry on the on the as a national broadcaster
doing a national game.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
It ain't like Ohio.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
State and never won a national championship, rob Gen. This
wasn't like, oh my god, like like the cub finally
won and you.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
What, really and their expectations are for them to win
it every year, So it's not like this is a
favorite to win it again. Exit right. It was just
and again, I do feel like there was a little
extra sauce being at it, like meaning I think he
I think he handed it up like I'm about to
do you know how you know you're about to do something.
I think he knew I'm about to do this.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Well, it was it was bad. It was really bad.
One of the worst things I've ever seen. I mean
for real, all right, Coming up next, Ryan Day won
the battle, but he may have lost the war. We'll
get into that. We'll continue all of that on this
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Ain't nothing wrong with an end and ain't nothing wrong
with a free as well. We were just talking about

(14:28):
kirkhurb Street and you know him crying, getting emotional. But
the point of that was based off of the game
where Ohio State gets the job done. They secure their
fourth national title, third in the with you know, the
last three coaches in a row, which Ryan Day, to
his credit, many thought would be on the hot seat
rob after losing to Michigan and being one and four

(14:50):
against Michigan as you know, being you spending all those
years there. That's a big deal between those two teams.
Coaches keep jobs, coaches lose jobs because yeah, sure you
want a nation championship, you want to win that, but
it's a very difficult task. Only one team is going
to do that. But what you can do is beat Michigan,
or what you can do is beat Ohio State, and
you can dry to do that every year. So that's

(15:10):
one of those requirements with the job. But Ryan Day
gets as he gets the victory, gets to win, and
obviously I would imagine had taken himself and removed himself
from the hot seat. You are, you have taken yourself
away because.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
You got a national championship and you know that goes
a long way.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, like all of it. Oh, that's nice, Michigan.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
They did get to us, but we rebound from that
went on to win a National champs part to me,
it was so meaningful that Kirk kurb Street cro top bits.
We already did that. I'm just saying, but but you
get my point. How in the world could it not
be the.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Only thing I know? You as he's still in the
hot seat, the only thing I know I'm saying, the
only thing would be if people are all right now,
we still need to be Michigan. You can't be runn
around here one and four. But here's the thing with
him too. So this is great for him and it's
also great for the Ohio state because they say, now
this is what we do. He's now created a new standard, right,
this is what we do. And you would say, well,

(16:12):
what is it that you do three coaches in a row,
have won a national title, Trestle Urban Meyer, Ryan Day.
So when you come here, now the expectation, since he's
completed this is for three coaches in a row, and
that's impressive that now this is what we do. So

(16:33):
he's almost put the added at presser on himself, like
why can't we be Alabama? Why can't we be Clinton
where we win two out of three or two and
four years?

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah, but I don't think I understand what you're saying,
like to elevate the program, but they're not gonna take
it away. I mean, it wasn't like that they won
in twenty fourteen. I was, Yeah, it was a while ago.
It ain't right. It ain't like you Wire winning all.
It like if he wins another one in a couple,
I'm saying, that's the new thing.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Why can't we that I'm saying, if we're spending twenty
million dollars on players, Shoot, it is a major League
baseball What the a spending? Steve what maybe you've got
Ohio State spending more on a college team? Tiger payroll
was like, no, you got a college You got a
college football team paying more than a baseball team, probably

(17:20):
two or three that's close to at least point being
if we're paying twenty million dollars, we got all the resources,
we keep getting these stub received. I mean, they have
become receiver university. My gosh, they have all the all
the receivers.

Speaker 8 (17:33):
Get it.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
But why can't we be Clemsing how they had that
nice row. Why can't we be Alabama? Why can't we
be Georgia. That's what the athletic director will be in
president will be saying.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Now, I understand, but I think he's off the hot
seat for now because if had he not won this year,
I think that would have been it.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
We spent twenty two years off the hot seat. But
I'm saying now it's elevated. I'm saying, all right, good job,
go get another one.

Speaker 8 (17:55):
Here.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Here's the other thing that that works for him. Yep,
the second highest winning percentage ever. Like he's done a
lot of wins for them, and that's what it takes.
And you got to satisfy the alumni so that they
feel good every so often.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
I don't think that they expect to win every other year.
I just don't.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
I just don't look at Georgia does look at look
at bo scham Beckler admission. You know, I know, okay,
but I'm trying to say he never won a national championship.
They got a statue in front of the football office
for him.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
This is different people.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
I ain't say anyone, but I'm just saying, and so
for college, yes, the threshold is different, and I just
think so I do. I think him winning this one
got him off the hot seat. Now if he takes
care of Michigan next year and wins, I don't know
if they play for you know, lunch. You know what
I'm saying. That's what turned around. That's what turned around

(18:53):
Jim harbor tenure at Michigan. He started being on and
Nanny finally broke through in one of national championship. He
left as a hero, you know what I mean. Sure,
and people don't remember how bad it was at Michigan
because it was bad under Jim Harbor.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, but that will be my thing when he off
every oh without a doubt. But I think they'll be
interesting to see if they can win some more. But again,
now that's a listen Ohio State and tout. You come
here for a handful of years, is your tenure here?
We expect this what we've done. The last three coaches
here since two thousand and two have won titles. This
is what we do. So the next coach in five,

(19:29):
ten years, wherever you are, we expect the title because
that is now what we do. And that's kind of
an amazing president to have it set up like that,
where your three coaches in a row winning a title.
That's crazy because I don't know if Alabama gonna win
one without Nick Saban, you know, or before him. Like
for Ohio State to tout that, that's pretty pretty impressive
for sure. Fris Moot, former NFL cornerback, NFL analysts, and

(19:51):
just a moment getting it except excited about these these
natural I'm sorry, the conference championship game's going on this weekend.

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Speaker 3 (20:09):
Robin as the couple, and we are joined right now
by Fred Smooth, former NFL cornerback NFL analysts. I may
or may not used to get busy with them when
they were the Redskins, not the Commanders. Right now, Fred
what's up? Man? On the NFL, Madden was getting busy.
How are you? What's up? Fred?

Speaker 8 (20:23):
I'm good y'all doing, man?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Thanks for having me feeling good man. Well, other than
the fact that the Commanders played a flawless game against
the line.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
No no, no, no, no, Fred, he's a big time
line holer. I've been telling them all year lies what
we gonna do. I picked the Commanders, he had his
panties in a bunch over it, and they went in.
How surprised were you at what the Commanders were able
to do? Because I saw this coming. Oh don't get that, man.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
None of that progmentation with.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
With Jared lost. But go ahead. What you see in
that game, think.

Speaker 8 (20:55):
About it is we just introduced to wear up to
America's new team, and to think about inside of that
building that we had a chance to beat there. We
gotta realize it's good. The Detroit Ryons are offensively. You know,
they was missing thirteen guys on dfense, and sometimes that
catches up with you when you play in a high
power like the one we have. And you got to

(21:15):
also realize we have a rookie quarterback. It's leading the
playoffs in passing percentage, passing efficiency, passing yard and he
don't turn the ball over, giving us the chance to
win any game.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
So you're trying to tell me he's the one? Is
he the one?

Speaker 8 (21:30):
Is he?

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Neil on the main treatman. Didn't we hear his last
year about the rod. I remember this conversation a year ago.

Speaker 8 (21:36):
No, two different animals, two different animals. He won, the
Lord chares this one't is different. Right here. You gotta
realize I said this before the year started. I say,
as a group, this would be the best quarterback class
of all time. And it's because the side effect of
them going through COVID, them being able to start forty

(21:58):
fifty sixty college games if they steed gave us a
little slower to them than it is when the rookie
comes out and get one and a half or two
year start. He got that a lot of football, and
this guy puts a lot of work into I give
him that like he puts the work in, so when
he gets on the field, he's never nervous.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
I about this, and I'm not trying to rain on
your parade because I love what the commanders have.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Get an umbrella, ready for ready for it?

Speaker 5 (22:21):
It I mean, come on, there's like three or four
games that they had no business winning where they got
lucky at the end. And you know what I'm talking about,
And you wouldn't be having a different conversation because I
love I get it. You know, Uh, sports has a
short manu wins and losses. But let's just like, let's
not get carried away. They had some things break their

(22:41):
way as well.

Speaker 8 (22:42):
Rob ro Rob was a field we all be drunk
for free eye.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
That's what I'll be telling them.

Speaker 8 (22:49):
No, don't you do that. Rob. Like football, he is
a little lucky involved when the battle is bouncing your way.
You know that when you're a team of destiny. See,
people thought we were playing with house money, but now
we see to be a team. And you gotta realize
we're playing the Philadelfia Eagles. We didn't beat those guys before.
We're not scared to Philly death. We're four quarters away
from walking down Bourbus Street and drink it five five

(23:11):
in dakers Well.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
And you know what the Lions were too, with a
seventeen point lead in the first half in San Francisco.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
I understand, Okay, we just beat the Lions. We just
beat the Lions.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
All right, Fred, Right, you ain't gotta say you beat
the Lions three times in a rough friend, I got it,
Fred Smoot, our guest, former NFL cornerback, NFL analyst. Let's
talk about this game. The Eagles will say, hey, we
got a great defense, we got a quarterback that he
doesn't have to do too much, you know, just manage
the game. He probably didn't want to hear that. But
and then we got that boy running that's looking like
Barry Sanders two point zero and saved. How do you

(23:45):
go about it if you were still a dB for
the Commanders? What's the process? How do you stop that offense?
Specifically the running game with.

Speaker 8 (23:54):
Saquan First of all, when it comes to shake one
and try to stop him is basically you need to
start with putting some Jesus in your life. Nick, You've
got to realize that their offensive line is maam it.
Their offense line is one of the best office lives
in football. So it's good as take Kwan Barkley is
I got to talk about the fact that they got
some guys up front that's part of a moving company

(24:16):
and their movie. You state to state that they have
to then you got to realize Dallas guarded over there,
and you got aj Brown and Smill. But the one
factor that I think nobody's talking about is Jalen Hurts
is actually maybe hurting. They're not saying nothing about it.
He's not been playing, especially when it comes to throwing
the ball from the pocket. He has not been efficient.
And I'm telling you right now we have a chance

(24:37):
to get out in a shootout on them. And I
don't know how much take Kwan Barkley up be if
our offense start to really click, you gotta realize we
may going through a list. Fred when we tell our
plan of trust way to stay at home, we don't
even use him. But I tell you what the familiarity
of these two teams office defense and expecial teams wise,
it's gonna be a good game.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
I just look at the Eagles with that office line
and that they can run the ball, they can control
the clock, cut down on possessions.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
That's the kind of game you want to play, don't
you If you're if you're taking on Washington.

Speaker 8 (25:12):
Rob May, the playoff football is it hold? You know
when he gets cold outside and you can't throw the
ball around your yes, and guess what. We have a
guy that's the great equalizer. We have Jedi five. We
had a force multiplier himself. We got a guy that
using his legs and as good as anybody in the league.
And we don't design a lot of run plays for him.

(25:33):
This is naturally from the pockets. He didn't gonna think
about Jayalen that you got love. He really throws this
subvert and surveys at pocket like Peyton Manning when he
runs like Lamar Jackson. That's a scary mixture person right there.
So it's a different level when it comes to these teams.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Let me ask you this, then, if you look at
let's just say, for whatever, the Commanders go to the
Super Bowl and you got to face either the Bills
or the Chiefs. Let's kind of break down those two teams. Uh,
the Chiefs, obviously, they just make the right winning play
year after year. At the year this is what they do.
And their officials he look Super Bowls robbed at some point.
Can you just say they're good the great? No, I'm not.

(26:11):
This year they've been really lucky for you here. This
is what we're talking about.

Speaker 8 (26:14):
Come on with the look how about these guys and
to Read and Pat Mahomes just know how to win.
How About they might not be as explosive as they
were with Tyreek Hillis, might not might not get more efficient,
and they know how to win. Like when it comes
to the fourth quarter, the two things out these quarterbacks
haven't coming Jaydon Dais and Pat Mahos. If they got
the ball last, you have lost. That's a guarantee. You

(26:36):
could take that to the casino. You won't win that money.
So at the end of the day, he's as leitha
as he's always been. How About they might be a
little bored. How beout they more into that mod of
the old New England team that we couldn't stand.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
That's so bored.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
Yeah, Patrick Mahomes had the worst stats of his career
across the board.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Every stat line was the worst of his career.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
You think that Patrick winning, You think, yeah, no, but yeah,
but it ain't.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
It ain't just him.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
He didn't even get the team went fifteen and two
when he got no MVP votes.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
How is that possible? No all pro votes? If it's
about Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 8 (27:12):
So I'm asking you to win, I'm asking you no
I'm just saying, no, only do I have to win games,
but you want me to win him with style points?

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Right now? It ain't stop points. It's just the idea.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
How many quarterbacks can lead a team to fifteen and two,
right and and not getting all Pro vote at quarterback?
How is that possible?

Speaker 8 (27:33):
I understand that, But his stats were just not They're
the only statu he was leading in was winning games.
And that's what I'm saying. Where Pat mahonmes sets the
bar so high, all right, well he comes up short.
They would not reward him, you know, That's.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
What I'm trying to tell. I mean, you got Lamar Jackson,
Josh Allen were incredible, Joe Burrow throwing a million touchdowns.
You knew they were gonna take some of them, some
of them votes right there?

Speaker 9 (27:56):
All right?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
All right, so then give us your fight. What's the prediction.
I mean, obviously I'm just assuming it's go ahead, pick
Washington for you.

Speaker 8 (28:03):
Well, no, I'm not being a homer when I say this.
Everything's coming out of my mouth.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
It is the truth.

Speaker 8 (28:08):
Now your version is totally different. Now, this is what
I say. It's gonna be a hard, fire ball game.
It's gonna be an old NFC East rival, knock them,
bring your right Dale helmet. But I think we prevailed
in the end. I just think we got it. That
the team of Destiny. We'll prevail, but it won't be
as high schooling as people think it is. I'm gonna
stay Washington thirty. I'm gonna say that Eagles twenty five,

(28:30):
and it's gonna be walking to New Orleans. I cannot wait.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
So you'll be there, huh.

Speaker 8 (28:37):
I'm not missing this way, haven't been. We hadn't done
this in three decades, all right, you know they woke up,
but sit sleeping giant here in Washington. We got fans
all over the world. It has been new world order.
It has been different.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
But it is amazing because the last time I went
to a game in Landover, they had seats covered up
all over the upper deck. You remember that.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
Frad Yeah, yeah, I'm in the dark era. I went
through it. I was a part of some of them.
I understand the pain that this Like, if you told
us before the season we was four quarters away from
the super Bowl, nobody would have believed in us, nobody
would have gave us a chance. But when you get
a quarterback, a guy like we have a totally game changer.

(29:19):
It showed you what you can do. You can turn
a whole franchise around. And I ain't gonna start it. Don't
start there. It's started with this new ownership. It's started
with coach Quinn. It's starting with Adam. I mean, I
get used to this. We ain't going nowhere for long.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
It's funny because that's what they said with CJ. Stroud
last year, that they were going to make the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
This shit they.

Speaker 8 (29:38):
Scroud, c J scrowd got hot, My guy been hot.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Okay, all right, I'm just asking, all right, that's what
I remember last year.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Thanks Fred. Let me tell you, Fred Smooth. Hey, if
don King need a replacements, we are he gotta call Fred.
Thank you, Fred, Hey. We appreciate appreciate.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
You anytime, fellas.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
All right, Fred Smooth F Smooth twenty one As Sean
t I'm assuming it's showing love to the great Sean
Taylor right there on X. All Right, trash Talking Tuesday
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eighty seven seven
ninety nine on Fox. I know you've been waiting, It's
your time to get in. You can trash Rob you
can trash me? Why would you do that? Eight seven

(30:15):
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Speaker 1 (31:04):
Don't you ever talk about me.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
It's trash Talking Tuesday, he said.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Teez Razzie, I don't know whether to smile. Let's see
a kick a field, go man, Hi, Calvin, this could
be out here let's go see we're in here.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Let's kick it off. Kenny California. You're on the odd
couple of Fox Sports Ready, Who you trashing?

Speaker 8 (31:23):
Ken? Personal?

Speaker 10 (31:27):
But Calvin, I told you to listen Uncle Rup. Listen
on Corrob when he told you stopped drinking the wine
on him lying, stop drinking the wine.

Speaker 8 (31:36):
I don't care if you went.

Speaker 10 (31:37):
Fifteen to two. I don't care if you're the number
one team and you gotta buy and you chomped by
fourteen points to the number six commanders and your buddy.
You gotta listen on cor Rup. That's all I can
tell you about. Just when are you gonna learn?

Speaker 11 (31:52):
Listen on from Home.

Speaker 10 (31:55):
Listen to Uncob about Teja. Stop talking, you know we're
just listening the Rops.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
I thank you all three teams he talking about. Robbie
made the playoffs. I might win the super Bowl? All right?
Keep going shed.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Next Chad and Sue Falls you're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Who you trashing? Chad?

Speaker 12 (32:16):
Hey, gentlemen, Rob, I love you buddy, a fellow stitchhead.
But a little bit of trash here, all right, yep,
we can't we can't trash herby.

Speaker 13 (32:28):
Right for sticking up for his guy when that's what
we do.

Speaker 12 (32:32):
And and Rob he said, it's like Anderson Cooper saying
he would trash for winning the election. And that's exactly
what they do.

Speaker 13 (32:40):
This is what we do, right, No, because that's.

Speaker 8 (32:43):
Good for the headlines.

Speaker 12 (32:45):
Now listen, we're looking for the headlines. That's exactly what
we get. Kirby's his guy, that's what we're trying to get.
The uh, the leave, We're trying to get the click.
And that's exactly what happens.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
And it's okay.

Speaker 12 (33:00):
I applaud Herbie Man put it out there, cry on
the stands. We all know you're Ohio state guy. All right,
I'm alright with it, all.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Right, Jaed, all right, Jack, thank you for much eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox Andrew and Bakersfield, California.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Who are you trashing Andrew?

Speaker 9 (33:20):
What's up, guys, I'm trashing Fox Sports Radio? But yeah,
for taking out the live sports update anchor overnight. And
this is an easily fixable problem. You just need to
hire two people back, Eddie Garcia and Kevin Wire. The
chef Kevin Wire is on Bernie Frado's show, and Eddie

(33:40):
Garcia is on Ben Mallers and Ben and Bernie. You
got no pulls that you can't stick up for your guys,
all right, That's.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
What I got, all right, appreciate it, all right, Andrew,
thank you, hop fire that management out here in the stobut.
Jordan and Florida. You're on the Fox Sports Radio. Who
are you trashing?

Speaker 8 (33:57):
Jordan?

Speaker 11 (33:58):
Hey, I'm trashing your guys? Is Kirk Curve Street?

Speaker 8 (34:01):
Take listen.

Speaker 11 (34:02):
I'm a Michigan fan through and through and we'll draggle
House State to the mud whenever I get the chance.
But I don't know if you guys called him on
Pat mcsfee this morning, but he talked about how it's
been a rough year with his wife's getting diagnosed with cancer,
losing his dog, and then the emotions hit him when
his son, who was a part of the Ohio state team,
won a national championship two years after suffering heart failure

(34:23):
and having a medical retired. Ryan Day kept him on
the team and I was able to win a national championship.
So I think obviously he needs to remain objective, but overall,
I don't blame Herbie forget emotional and just trashing your take.

Speaker 12 (34:36):
On it all.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
That's not for us to push back, but I could
have pushed back on the eight seven, seven ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
We got another whole hour. That's right.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Draydon in Missouri, a missou you're on the couple of
Fox Sports Wadia.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Who trashing Hey man.

Speaker 14 (34:52):
I'm trashing the Patriots for a I mean, I'm not
trusting to move, but I'm just trasting, like how the
last four years of going on. Understand how the front office,
what's happened. Then we're bringing back McDaniels. Yeah, just admit
we're wrong and everything. At this point, man, shutters don't
get it.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
They keep doing the same thing over and over.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
We appreciate it. By Rabel's the guy we'll see.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Andy in Syracuse, you're on the eye couple of Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Who are you trashing? Andy?

Speaker 13 (35:19):
I'm trashing anybody who says Jalen Carter isn't the true
MVP of.

Speaker 8 (35:24):
The Eagles who won the game.

Speaker 12 (35:27):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
All Right, we got you, Richard.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Guys, keep appreciate you, Thank you, We appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Richard and Seattle, you're on the eye couple of Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Who you trashing Richard?

Speaker 8 (35:39):
The Ohio State fan base?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Go ahead, why are you trashing him?

Speaker 13 (35:45):
They wanted to find that man a few weeks ago.
Now they are, You know, right, is duck? Thank sure
you know what the hell you're talking about before you
try to ruin a man's life. But being a coach isn't,
especially with fans like you have. Ohio congratulations and.

Speaker 8 (36:06):
One more thing, what.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
To record, dude, kids, I appreciate you. Wait, we can't
say that no more.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Though, no read of commanders.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I don't know why people don't, okay, because they went
sixty seven years saying that that's.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Why people changed though the guardians, the teams have changed.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Name before I means this is not new. I made
people making life.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
It's happened.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I'm not disagree, but I'm just saying it's your time,
all right. Whatever, I'm acting like you ain't called one
of your old girls one of your old girls.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Nah, I just say number nine. Oh, I'm sorry?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Who next? No?

Speaker 5 (36:47):
All good man with spirited trash, spirited trash.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
We got a few seconds for the break. You want
to clap back on the uh hearp Street. Yeah, I'm
just you know, you could talk about all that there.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
You're doing a job too, and you could do that
off camera. You just said it.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
I said, literally, just say, hey, I can't do this
right now. Great game, glad we called it, and you
walk away and walk away. To be fair, I didn't
know every let us detail of that. I mean, you
know that you start addinging stuff. It sounds just a
lot going on.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Yeah, but also I think in the situation, just try
to find a way. Yeah, yeah, you gotta because it
just didn't look good. I don't care what anybody said.
It just didn't look good.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yep. College football playoffs come to a rap. We'll tell
you what we thought about it. A couple
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