January 21, 2025 • 37 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why they have no problem with the one anonymous Hall of Fame voter who prevented Ichiro Suzuki from being a unanimous selection, rip the Detroit Lions fans who keep calling Ben Johnson a traitor for leaving to take the Chicago Bears head coaching job, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam swings by to discuss all the biggest postseason headlines.
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And also Trey Wingo me and him could go at
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Speaker 1 (02:24):
No, well, I mean you still can't because the topic
of it's still relevant, meaning the Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
It's not like you know, they're out of the playoffs
or anything. So yeah, you can go at it again.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Host of the pregame of Power Up on Draft Kings.
I might touching Mike Seat I was. I was at
home that day. I couldn't do no.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Alex didn't listen to my text message about yes.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
And of course last call. We have that as well.
And as you know, you just heard from Steve de
Sega at the top of the hour. The Baseball Hall
of Fame Uh is in.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, we should welcome in the odd couple crews.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Baseball got you fired up right now? I can tell Look,
that's two days in a row. Man's concerned for you, man, Yes, Uh,
that's different. He's mad worked out a couple crew. Rob
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the program. And of course Elijah is our social media guru.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
One day we're gonna hear about him. That's right, And
Elijah does.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
The one guy that does the social stuff that goes okay,
So so let's get to it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I really want to get to this.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
The Hall of Fame ballots are counted and we got
our three guys who are going into the Hall of Fame.
You know my ballot, I voted for two of the
three who got in each year.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Row makes it almost unanimous. One vote. Shot.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You gotta beef with that one vote or is it?
Maybe you can what we're gonna talk about. Yeah, that's
the big thing. CC Sabathia got in who I voted.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
A lot of people were like, CC, is he really
a Yes, he's in the three thousand strikeout Club, one
hundred in I mean two hundred and fifty one wins
cy Young and won a World Serpents.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That was the key part too, is that if you
wanted to be major, right, he has also one. You
know he had a worse title, but you mentioned that
three thousand mark. And the only couple people.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Roger Clemings which would have been said not for you
know what, and Kurt Schilling.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Those are the only two. All the other pitchers win the.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Three thousand strike out Club are in and then Billy Wagner,
who I have a problem with. I didn't vote for
Billy Wagner. This is his tenth year on the ballot,
and to me, he didn't get better. Has he pitched
in the last ten years?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Didn't get better in the last ten years?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Well, I won't pitching though, And Kelvin that's the issue
I have. His first year on the ballot ten ten
point five percent of the vote.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
When did the votes come from?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Like over the years and people feel compelled in his
final year on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh, we got to put them on because this is it.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
This is it, and it's a sympathy vote at the end,
and I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
To me, you shouldn't need ten years.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
To get on the to get in the Hall of Fame,
because either you're a Hall of Famer or you're not.
A lot of people are like, oh, it's not first ballot,
he's a second or third.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
To me, if you're in the Hall of Fame, you're
a Hall of Famer, it should.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Be one shot and you should be like, yes, he
is a Hall of Famer or he's not a Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That's how I would prefer it. We talk about especially
the NFL does the right. Baseball does it right for
the most part, NBA because it's not NBA, because it's basketball.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It gets weird.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
They don't have any control because the guy played college
or he you know, did this, and she did that
international international.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
We don't even know their name. It's like, who is that?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
But the Globe Trotters are in the Basketball Hall And
that's fine at this point, as we talked about with Steve,
I think a week or two ago, that's fine. Have
the basket ball But the NBA needs to say, all right, we.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Got an NBA where Magic Kareem Bird Jordan. It's a
little different then everybody else over there. So I would
love to see that at some point. But it is
if there were a sixty eight percent, seventy percent of
the vote and after six, seven, eight years, I can
understand it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Maybe you thought about it differently.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
New perspective, new evidence, new stat in the way of looking,
you know, like, for instance, there wasn't a war at
some point, right, there wasn't a perr at some point.
Here's the perspective when it made you go, okay, I
didn't think about it. Ten percent to getting in is
crazy work.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You were rejected nine times on the ballot where the
writers didn't think you were good enough to be a
Hall of Famer, and now on your tenth year they
changed their minds.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
It makes no sense. It's illogical.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
That part of it is. It's crazy. Like I said,
if he was sitting around, like, let's look at it
from this year, is right. So if you want to
look at it this year, and you looked at some
of the people who were like okay, So let's say
Carlos Beltram now didn't get in. But if you're looking
at it's seventy point three percent of the vote. So
you say, okay, I could see why for a decade
(07:01):
he would get the necessary you know, twelve more points
because maybe I didn't see about this, or maybe I
thought or Ma just didn't like the group of guys
he was up against her.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
But there's never ten you get ten votes. There's never
ten guys like that is not the argument. And that's
the people.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
To say, because you can't go from ten percent time
in that ten percent to seventy.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Five, like you got to get seventy five. That's three
out of four votes, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That on improvement when you didn't play right, when you
haven't played at all. Now let's do this, Uh, let's
talk about each your row one vote short.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, and a lot of people are up in arms.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I saw John Hayman from New York Post, longtime baseball
writer who I work with at Newsday in New York.
You know who's the numb skullar didn't vote for each
your Row. We got it when it was Derek Jeter.
And I'm gonna say this as much as I complain
about my brother and who had voted Billy Wagner in.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It's their vote, Yeah, it is their vote.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I don't think that anybody put in a ballot that
had anybody else's name on it and they left each
your row off that I do not believe.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I believe it's a blank ballot in.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Protest, protest, just whatever it might be, Like they just decide,
you know what, period like.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Nobody deserves to be unanimous.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Okay, And for all the people gonna cry about each
your row, can I give you some name?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Willie made was not unanimous? You can keep on. Hey,
Aaron was not. Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So so the belly ache that first it was Jeter
and now it's each your row. To me, I can't
because you'd have to tell me all these other great
players who didn't get in unanimously. Marianno Rivera was the
first god And then it was shocking that no one
to this point had ever gotten in unanimous, and all
(08:57):
of a sudden, Mariano and now we believe that year
everybody should get in unanimously. Completely agree with that. I
just don't understand that. And you know, people who are
up in arms, it doesn't matter all I've read on Twitter.
Oh you know they should take their Hall of Fame
ballot away from them.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
No, no, it's your ballot. It's yeah right, rog says
they should take him away. He's over here.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Let me put it on here, Robbzi.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
The issue is, before you go real quick, to ross
point is each row was incredible, clearly ninety nine point
what seven percent of the votes to whatever it was.
But to Ros's point, we've had some incredible players who've
won multiple World Series titles who don't get in or
are unanimously, I should say, and we've had some of
the when you think of the best player ever, oftentimes
(09:41):
you don't say Echro Now he might be up there,
and that person whoever is in the name best player, right,
he wasn't unanimous. So it becomes while I by go, man,
that's kind of wild that you wouldn't vote for him.
We got a whole trail of people we can go
down that list of the greats. Are the greats, are
the great the best ever? And they didn't get unanimous.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
To not getting unanimous, Tom sever anybody name, no matter,
I'm not gonna get it. I mean, rob G, what
would be your response to that? If you're telling me
that that you're okay with Willy May's not getting in unanimous,
but you got your pennies and a bunch over each
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your row.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
It's not that I'm okay with Willy May's not getting unanimous,
or Key Junior, Derek Jeter, whoever the problem is.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
This is why fake news became a thing.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
This is why people do not trust the media, because
you have self important people who believe it's their right
to say, you know what, I'm gonna be the one
to make sure this doesn't happen because it happened to
uh Cal Ripken Jr.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Twenty years ago.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
So I'm gonna be the one to make sure that
each of ro Suzuki, even though I'm gonna vote for
him next year and the year after that, and it's
not gonna be unanimous, because I'm the guy.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm the one who's special.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I'm gonna stand up on my eye horse and make
it seem like I'm gonna be the one who can
decide whose career is worth what and what it's not
when we know deep down whoever did vote or didn't
vote or left the blank ballot as you said, is
just for him again.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Next to you. So what you're doing is full of crap.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
It's embarrassing to the sport, it's embarrassing to the BBWA.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Let's see here it is the BBWAA got it right,
you know what I mean as a whole and Rob
g you can't control everybody, like like, look at all
the other writers who voted for him.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Because they looked at it and whatever. Shouldn't it shouldn't
be the I get the overall. I get what you're saying, Robsey,
that totally makes sense. But I think when you look
at it, if you're telling me twenty god people, only
one didn't vote for me, that's kind of crazy actually,
because nothing in life is like that.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Nothing you're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
A hundred percent in this world where we live, somebody's
gonna see something. Well, he didn't do this, he came
too late, he didn't do enough.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Did he win? I didn't like the way he blah blah, he.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Screwed me over over interview. That's how petty people can
be a time. You know, isn't that the problem?
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Then?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
But should that person have a vote if they are
gonna make it personal and say, I'm not gonna allow
you to be unanimous because it wasn't fair to George
Brand and Hank Garant, Tony Butt Like, no, you should
be trying to right the wrongs of what happened to
the people before you.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I'm right, I agree, but to be able, Like when
you look at some of the percentages, Rob g of
people and other voters, you know, you start to look
at it and go, well, how come this one?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Or like, how come how give it to us?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
The numbers, Rob, So here are the guy the closest
to unanimous, including each before Derek Jeter missed it by
one vote, Ken Griffy missed, David Jr. Missed it by three,
Tom sever by five, Nolan Ryan by six, cal Ricker Jr.
By eight, Ty Cob by four, George Brett by nine,
look at Ty Coon by nine, and last but not least, Tony.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Cob definitely was with somebody wife.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And and Tony Gwynn, who's like one of the greatest
hitters who ever played Thirteen people didn't vote but embarrassed Rob, No,
because this is what.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
You hold because again you mentioned I don't have a kids,
I don't got a wife, like this is one of.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Your most prized possessions. You're a Hall of Fame voter,
no doubt.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
You have somebody who hijacked this moment from one of
the all time great players, knowing that that each year
Row is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
He is or he is, and he is.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
But out of principle, I'm gonna leave him off the
list because I'm petty like that.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I get your point, I do. I still believe it.
I'll hold up to this. He it's his ballot and
he has a right as the way that you know,
you get a ballot and have to earn it. You
have to cover major League Baseball for ten straight years
with a BBWAA car. So they like some rogue guy
who's not in the club and doesn't cover bad You
(13:50):
can't get a vote without your ten years of service.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So this is their right that they've earned.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
If it's crazy, it otherwise, if there's no vote, then
we should just put people in and never even take
a vote.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But that's not how we were, and it's crazy it is.
You know what it reminds me of to Rob g
It's like the MVP. How we still don't know exactly
what that means, You know what I mean? Like the
most Valuable is he the best because he's the best
on his team, or is he the best player on
the best team. And so point being this writer may go,
it's not that he's not a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I just don't think he's first ballot.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I think he's right there, but I don't put him
on the likes of block filling the blank, filling the blank.
So to your point, he's going to get in, but
I can't make him a hall He's not on the
same tier as this person who I believe is the
first ballot. And we obviously all disagree, but that's their vote.
And that's what happened. When you get people vote, their
definition of what we're they're voting for often changes.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
And often there were people, of course who are like, uh, Rob,
was that you didn't vote, but that you being a no,
that is not me because that was you for everybody
else except that that was you forever. So my ballot
was actually close to what it was. Three There are
people voted for ten people and they honestly put it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Turning a ballot with ten votes for Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well you said, some people like the empty the clip, Yeah,
they fucking ten votes.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Everybody get in.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
All right, did you have a problem with each Yiro
Suzuki being left off of one voter's Hall of Fame
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Speaker 1 (16:54):
We've been talking about a BBWAA member for almost forty years.
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we got Peter and Honolulu.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You want to be where you are? Peter? What's SOX
Sports Radio? What's up? Peter?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
What's up? Guys? How are you all good?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah? We got head right ahead? Yep, all good?
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Ro Are you sure you didn't do it?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
No? I did. I'm positive I did not say that.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Are you sure? Rise? Let me see. It's gotta be
the same moron they taking vote Derek, Peter, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I want to leave that. I don't. I don't. Here's
my thing.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
If you told me that sobody put in a ballot
right when they voted for people, and they didn't put
each your row in as a vote, then that then
I got a problem with that. I believe it has
to be a blank ballot because there's no way you
could post.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
A ballot and put each your row or Joe. He's
the point to thank you for the call, Peter, appreciate you.
And why did they do it?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Is the people? I were right?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
You saw my ballot on there. It says do you
want your ballot to be public? Yes or no? And
you have to check a box. I checked yes because
I'm not hiding anything, but other people don't want their
ballot to be public. And that's the guy who apparently
has decided that he's going to put in blank ballot.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Told you that.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And it's not the Hall of Fame, but that's what
happened in the NBA went to the showing everybody's name
with the MVP, and Steph got unanius that year because
everybody was nervous to be the one who didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Andrew in Virginia, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
What you got buss up? Andrew, thank you very much.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
I literally drive an hour to work each stay at
night getting home, and I listen to you guys every day.
I appreciate what you guys are doing. You are hard hitting.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Thank you guys very much for what you guys do.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It means a lot, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Philly Wagner. The guy needed to be in man. Don't
let him miss the opportunity. You know, each year, each
road is going to go next year. If it's not
next year, it's a year after that. He's got plenty
of time, and we do it because every year, whether
or not that's baseball, football, whatever it is, You've got
guys that are kind of on the tusk. It's just
(19:29):
you just have such a good roster of people coming up.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
But Andrew, it shouldn't take that.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Away from people. Man, that's taking it away.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
It shouldn't be. My thing is this whole idea is
not the whole of very good. There's so many players
who are very good and close. Thanks for the call,
but you know that we can't put everybody in it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It's a point of it. It's supposed to be the
very best of the very best. And I've said this
for years. It should be when you say it that
we kind of go oh, Like if we go football
and I say Jim around every yeah, yeah, Reggie White,
Joe Montana.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Like there's no level once you have to debate and
break down somebody's career and you got like Billy Wagner,
well for a left handed picture, like not for.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Era and if you look on Tuesdays and Thursdays, he
would you know. Yeah, then then it gets a little
whirre squeeze and.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
One more Jabari in Michigan, you're on the Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
What's up, Buddy's so guy'll knowing doing good? Yeah I'm
doing yeah Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
So well, good thing.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
I want to talk about baseball because you know, that's
one of the fewest times I can actually get on
because everyone want to talk about backslub football all the time.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
That's right, not only odd couple, you know, Jabari, we
do talk baseball.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you know, because you
know that's my that's my thing too. That's the reason
why I get on too, you know about the sports,
you know. But anyway, yeah, I mean, honestly, Uh, Here's
my thing about this whole thing is that I feel
I feel like if you're going to put out that, hey,
this is a percentage of votes that were where this
is how they got to the Hall of Fame, I
(21:02):
feel like that's the me person. I think that the
people who are voting, they it should be in public.
That's just me because if you're covering the game and
people couldn't could know that you're covering a game in public,
then we should know who, like who did you vote
or who did not vote and why didn't you vote
that person?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I agree, I agree you shouldn't hide, you know what
I mean, if you're voting for awards, I think every
should we should be transparent and it's.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Fine, especially when you're talking about writers who you're writing
things in the public. This isn't like a diary, right,
You're writing things about players, good, bad, and different about
players for you know, potentially years to decades. I think
you're checking a box. It can be okay with that. Yes,
and Rob g we do know the Digita guy, right who?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Who?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
We know?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
A guy who you took on like he claimed that
he did. So we'll never know because the ballot is
not public. But San Diego Union Tribune columnist Nick Kinneppa
claimed in his twenty twenty two column that he left
Jeter off his ballot and he actually had a blank
ballot two consecutive years. See this is what just because
he didn't like the idea of having a first ballot
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hall up and this.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
This is what I was saying.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That's like, it's gotta be a blank ballot and this
guy in San Diego might be the thing who was
the other one when Judge didn't get a unanimous for
the MVP because two writers who covered the angel yeah yeah, yeah,
voted for Otani. Yeah right, And that was another questionable thing.
But all right, uh there it is.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
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Speaker 2 (22:57):
He from? What's up?
Speaker 5 (22:59):
What happening?
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
How y'are doing doing great?
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I want to I want to start here. You played
for the Lions, you were feeling good about them. How
shocked were you at what happened at Ford Field Saturday?
Speaker 5 (23:12):
I wasn't very shocked. Look, look I'm I'm I'm happy
for the Lions. These last two years have been something
they've been needing for decades. But you know, there are
some things that need to be cleaned up now. The
war of attrition is a real thing in the NFL. Right,
(23:33):
if you don't have one side of the ball available
in terms of starters and people who've earned their position.
It's aim to be tough the deeper you get into
the playoffs to win these games. And so you know,
I've been bullish on on Jaydon Daniels from the beginning.
I had initially picked them to win the division. I
(23:56):
thought they would be a playoff team, and so just
watching him grow and how dynamic he has been this year.
I thought the Lions were in trouble home fill or
not based on the lack of availability for defensive stars
that they had, and it you know, it played out
(24:19):
like that.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
But you know Vegas didn't think so they had nine
and that they gave nine and a half points.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Were you shocked at that? Like watching and a half points?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I mean, but not Vegas gave nine and a half point.
People had to cash in big time with the Commanders.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Well yeah, I mean that's a easy that's an easy bet, right,
even if you know the Lions are going to win,
you still make that bet. Uh, in the divisional round
of the playoffs. These are my nine and a half points.
That's that was beyond just.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That was I even said that, you know, I'm picking them,
but I was like, ooh, I didn't like that.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Well, yeah, because you look at them and if you've
watched them all year, you don't come up with that number, right.
And like James Daniels is a problem because he brings
an element of to the game similar to Lamar Jackson.
Where as much as you plan, I mean, you can't
(25:16):
plan for some of those things, some of those those
throws that he's making from the pocket and extending the plays.
I'm like, goodness, gracious, man.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, why are you reminded me?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Come on, hey from let me ask you this though,
Stop it, man, So you got you have Ben Jonson
out the Bears, Aaron Glynn the least. Obviously he's taking interviews.
Don't go there, don't go there, Aaron Glynn. Him to
the Jets possibly or some other team. You've been and
you were in the league for so long. How does
this play out? The talent is still there. You got Gibbs,
(25:46):
You've got Goff, you got I'm around say Brown, you
got Williams. The porter of the talent is actually crazy.
And if guys come back healthy, you can feel great.
How much do these coordinators play a role in how
the Lions become next year? Can they keep moving on
and being our without.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Them, Well, I think they play a huge role now
if they keep the same system that Ben Johnson has
put in place, uh for Jared Golf and I'm in
Ross Saint Brown and the backs, and if they can
keep that system in place, Like everybody's coming from a
different tree these days. Right, you got the Shanahan tree,
(26:22):
you got the the you know, the Andy Reed tree.
Like they're all running similar offense.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Ahead right right, he doesn't, he got a buzzye.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
But but as.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Long as you can keep everyone within the a little
bit of terminology may change. What the best way to
do that is when you're replacing a coordinator at that
higher level, you don't want to rock the boat. You
don't want them to have to spend a whole year
running a new offense. Right. That's how you find teams
who now all of a sudden were offensive powerhouses, and
(27:03):
then they struggled the next year, especially early on under
the new leadership of a new oc.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Hey from let's talk about the Eagles and uhuon Barkley,
what a year he's had, My goodness, questions you the
league was trying to squeeze out running backs. You could
get to a Super Bowl and win. What a star
running back like a Barkley can't you?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Well, I think I think the pendulum is shifting back.
All of those much maligned running backs last year who left,
whose teams didn't want to pay them, who you know,
played around with the money. All of them were Pro
Bowl running backs, Barcles, all pro Henry right, like, so
everybody have phenomenal years. It's amazing how well you'll play
(27:49):
and how things can play out. Just being wanted, just
feeling like you can your value is worth it. And
I think that pendulum has swing from overpriced wide receivers.
You know, look look at who's involved in these last
four games. Where's the money? Where are the high priced
(28:09):
wide receivers on these teams?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I mean maybe Brown, you know, but but other you know,
like you.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Have aj Brown okay and Smith right, and they're not
even he's reading books on the sideline, okay. So dependulum
is switching back to more of a ball dominant offense
where look, two things, three things can happen if you
(28:40):
pass the ball, and two of them are bad. That
is as simple as that, right, If you've got somebody
you can hand the ball off to when you When
you build a running game, that means you've built your
offensive line as well. So those things go hand in hand,
those that offensive line and and uh in Philadelphia, man
(29:03):
hey moving you take it to taking Beckham uh beg
them from from the Jets and moving him inside. I mean,
this dude is a grown man in there. The Jets
had that level of talent, and they and they moved
away from him.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
He from last thing? Uh, I want to ask you about.
We got it? Uh, Lamar Jackson a couple of turnovers
in the first half, bounce back in the second half,
the defense comes up strong, six points allowed to Buffalo,
he gets the game tie in. Looks like touchdown, two
point conversion. I mean the Mark Andrews when you saw that,
(29:40):
could you believe it?
Speaker 6 (29:42):
No?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
It hurt my heart. I felt bad for Marcus. Marcus
He's been misterable, reliable, mister dependent for for so many years.
But you know, I put the onus on on Lamar
Jackson in those games. You can't have a first half
like he did. You can't. You can't.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
But even if he.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Came back, he from still even though he threw the
touchdown with a minute.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
And thirty to go, Okay, it doesn't matter because you've built,
You've dug a hole that you couldn't get out of,
no matter what heroics you were doing. You gave the
ball away that led to points twice you in a
one time.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, they didn't screw up both of them.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
But what I'm telling you is, once you give up
that possession and the positions they were to get points,
you're giving up points.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Right, But you're gonna mean I'm not gonna all right,
I'm gonna ask you.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
But Mark Andrews, who had a key fumble in the
second half to let the points and missed the easy
two point conversion, he gets no blame or he gets
some blame.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
No, Mark Mark Andrews, is it up for MVP of
the league?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, but that dad, But you're gonna let.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
A guy no, no, butch, I get it, I get it.
But the onus of protecting the football guy is on you, la.
Mark Jackson is arguably the MVP of No.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
I'm not disputing that, and I'm not trying to make
an excuse for the two turnovers in the first step.
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Speaker 5 (32:37):
How you do?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Bie one and two? Last night nineteen and twenty three
is the record? Here we go for I did get
the Old House day right, Thank god. I was about
to say at the end, I got close there. No,
I was right on that one. I was wrong the
other two games. All right, here we.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Go a lot of NBA action tonight, Orlando Magic minus
one and a half through in Toronto taking on a
sad sec I got this that love Washington plus thirteen
and a half taken on the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
The Lakers win, but that not by that much. But
not by that much.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
You could see that happening yet out very much so
with the Lakers. They might win by four, right, they'll
win though. And then I got the Denver Nuggets minus
twelve and a half hosting Philadelphia. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Who's playing for them. They got so many injuries.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
You never know with the number like twelve and an,
I'm just gonna take Denver at home. So again, Denver
at home minus twelve and a half, Washington in LA
plus thirteen and a half, Washington at home, I mean
Washington in LA plus thirteen and a half, yep, and
at Orlando minus one and a half in Toronto taking
on the Raptors.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
And remember Calvin, what's that. I'm not telling you who
to bet on, I'm telling you who.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Wow, you got any issue? Ben Johnson, now the head
coach of the Chicago Bears. A lot of folks have
said about this Detroit Lions fan, it's funny. Literally, during
our commercial break on the Grand they had the Lions
posted a big picture of him and he said, you know,
congrats and thanks or something like that, and I was like,
let me see what people saying. I thought, for the
most part, you're gonna have, you know, fans for fanatic
(34:09):
man too Bad.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
You were visiting and knew an interview set focusing on
the gate rival Terrible Guy shows where your priorities were.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I'm like, oh no, they're mad.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yeah, And I think fans as you just said with fanatics.
But I think they're totally out of pocket to think
that Ben Johnson shouldn't go to the Chicago Bears because
they were in their division. Dude, here's your opportunity in life.
There are only thirty two of these jobs.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
This might come and go. He's hot with the Lions.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Say he stays and they're bad the next two or
three years, he'll never get another chance at head coaching.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
John on bad.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Report comes out that he's a bad guyered something.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah, so when this opportunity you can't pick the spot
you got Caleb Williams there, you're looking at it going, hey,
I got a quarterback that the Bears are trying to
do this whatever, I think, give me an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
He got some offense around, they got players, They just
got a scheme up. Here's where I would be mad
if I were a fan. Okay, if he took.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
A lateral job where he went to the players as
the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Now I'm mad he got he can't you know it's funny,
Can's I'm mad at him.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Guess who probably went to lunch with him and was
happy the most happy for him, Dan Campbell.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, because he gets it. He had been in his position.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Dan Campbell was a coordinator, was an assistant coach for years. Man,
this thing is hard, you know, getting up and getting opportunities.
You gotta take it when you can. And again, you know,
as a Lions fan, it sucks. You're gonna have to
see him a couple of times, you know, a year.
But duo, this, these things, these there's thirty two of them,
and you already got thirty two head coaches. You already
got thirty two assistant coaches. Then you already got you know,
(35:46):
you keep going down the line of people that's already there.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
You gotta take these positions, these opportunities when you can, uh,
because they're not guaranteed. And they also ain't guaranteed. With
the quarterback, people still believe the best prospects since Andrew.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Look, so I definitely can't turn that down. So I
was I just was shot.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I expected to see some dug clearly, and especially I
knew I was gonna see it right after the game
the next day or so when he takes a gig.
I was shocked to see how many people currently still
telling you. I just looked at Instagram. It's like an
hour ago they posted it or something. Oh no, no, no,
And I was blowing away like that still.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
You know why because fans are starting to look at
the Lions and as you know, did the window close
on us?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Oh my god, Now they're taken away.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
And even Efrom talked about it, trying to keep the
same terminology. Not if you get a new offensive coordinate.
He don't want to do his own thing. He doesn't
come in and mimic what Ben Johnson did.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
That's not what they doing with. I hopeing somebody.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I hope he has had an in turn and understudy
an apprentice. Somebody raps somebody sitting up under me. It's
gonna be You're gonna get her your grandma. I'm teaching
your mom on the recipes. Maybe you put a little
this now, I like to sprinkle a little bit of
that in baby. I hope Ben Johnson was doing that
with somebody else.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
That's really what I'm hoping.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Man, All right, Uh, you got an issue with somebody
getting emotional? Man, tell me what you're talking about rot
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And also Trey Wingo me and him could go at
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Speaker 1 (02:24):
No, well, I mean you still can't because the topic
of it's still relevant, meaning the Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
It's not like you know, they're out of the playoffs
or anything. So yeah, you can go at it again.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
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I might touching Mike Seat I was. I was at
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Speaker 1 (02:39):
Alex didn't listen to my text message about yes.
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And of course last call. We have that as well.
And as you know, you just heard from Steve de
Sega at the top of the hour. The Baseball Hall
of Fame Uh is in.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, we should welcome in the odd couple crews.
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Speaker 2 (03:27):
One day we're gonna hear about him. That's right, And
Elijah does.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
The one guy that does the social stuff that goes okay,
So so let's get to it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I really want to get to this.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
The Hall of Fame ballots are counted and we got
our three guys who are going into the Hall of Fame.
You know my ballot, I voted for two of the
three who got in each year.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Row makes it almost unanimous. One vote. Shot.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You gotta beef with that one vote or is it?
Maybe you can what we're gonna talk about. Yeah, that's
the big thing. CC Sabathia got in who I voted.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
A lot of people were like, CC, is he really
a Yes, he's in the three thousand strikeout Club, one
hundred in I mean two hundred and fifty one wins
cy Young and won a World Serpents.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That was the key part too, is that if you
wanted to be major, right, he has also one. You
know he had a worse title, but you mentioned that
three thousand mark. And the only couple people.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Roger Clemings which would have been said not for you
know what, and Kurt Schilling.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Those are the only two. All the other pitchers win the.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Three thousand strike out Club are in and then Billy Wagner,
who I have a problem with. I didn't vote for
Billy Wagner. This is his tenth year on the ballot,
and to me, he didn't get better. Has he pitched
in the last ten years?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Didn't get better in the last ten years?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Well, I won't pitching though, And Kelvin that's the issue
I have. His first year on the ballot ten ten
point five percent of the vote.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
When did the votes come from?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Like over the years and people feel compelled in his
final year on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh, we got to put them on because this is it.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
This is it, and it's a sympathy vote at the end,
and I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
To me, you shouldn't need ten years.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
To get on the to get in the Hall of Fame,
because either you're a Hall of Famer or you're not.
A lot of people are like, oh, it's not first ballot,
he's a second or third.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
To me, if you're in the Hall of Fame, you're
a Hall of Famer, it should.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Be one shot and you should be like, yes, he
is a Hall of Famer or he's not a Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That's how I would prefer it. We talk about especially
the NFL does the right. Baseball does it right for
the most part, NBA because it's not NBA, because it's basketball.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It gets weird.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
They don't have any control because the guy played college
or he you know, did this, and she did that
international international.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
We don't even know their name. It's like, who is that?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
But the Globe Trotters are in the Basketball Hall And
that's fine at this point, as we talked about with Steve,
I think a week or two ago, that's fine. Have
the basket ball But the NBA needs to say, all right, we.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Got an NBA where Magic Kareem Bird Jordan. It's a
little different then everybody else over there. So I would
love to see that at some point. But it is
if there were a sixty eight percent, seventy percent of
the vote and after six, seven, eight years, I can
understand it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Maybe you thought about it differently.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
New perspective, new evidence, new stat in the way of looking,
you know, like, for instance, there wasn't a war at
some point, right, there wasn't a perr at some point.
Here's the perspective when it made you go, okay, I
didn't think about it. Ten percent to getting in is
crazy work.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You were rejected nine times on the ballot where the
writers didn't think you were good enough to be a
Hall of Famer, and now on your tenth year they
changed their minds.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
It makes no sense. It's illogical.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
That part of it is. It's crazy. Like I said,
if he was sitting around, like, let's look at it
from this year, is right. So if you want to
look at it this year, and you looked at some
of the people who were like okay, So let's say
Carlos Beltram now didn't get in. But if you're looking
at it's seventy point three percent of the vote. So
you say, okay, I could see why for a decade
(07:01):
he would get the necessary you know, twelve more points
because maybe I didn't see about this, or maybe I
thought or Ma just didn't like the group of guys
he was up against her.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
But there's never ten you get ten votes. There's never
ten guys like that is not the argument. And that's
the people.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
To say, because you can't go from ten percent time
in that ten percent to seventy.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Five, like you got to get seventy five. That's three
out of four votes, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That on improvement when you didn't play right, when you
haven't played at all. Now let's do this, Uh, let's
talk about each your row one vote short.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, and a lot of people are up in arms.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I saw John Hayman from New York Post, longtime baseball
writer who I work with at Newsday in New York.
You know who's the numb skullar didn't vote for each
your Row. We got it when it was Derek Jeter.
And I'm gonna say this as much as I complain
about my brother and who had voted Billy Wagner in.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It's their vote, Yeah, it is their vote.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I don't think that anybody put in a ballot that
had anybody else's name on it and they left each
your row off that I do not believe.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I believe it's a blank ballot in.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Protest, protest, just whatever it might be, Like they just decide,
you know what, period like.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Nobody deserves to be unanimous.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Okay, And for all the people gonna cry about each
your row, can I give you some name?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Willie made was not unanimous? You can keep on. Hey,
Aaron was not. Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So so the belly ache that first it was Jeter
and now it's each your row. To me, I can't
because you'd have to tell me all these other great
players who didn't get in unanimously. Marianno Rivera was the
first god And then it was shocking that no one
to this point had ever gotten in unanimous, and all
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of a sudden, Mariano and now we believe that year
everybody should get in unanimously. Completely agree with that. I
just don't understand that. And you know, people who are
up in arms, it doesn't matter all I've read on Twitter.
Oh you know they should take their Hall of Fame
ballot away from them.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
No, no, it's your ballot. It's yeah right, rog says
they should take him away. He's over here.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Let me put it on here, Robbzi.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
The issue is, before you go real quick, to ross
point is each row was incredible, clearly ninety nine point
what seven percent of the votes to whatever it was.
But to Ros's point, we've had some incredible players who've
won multiple World Series titles who don't get in or
are unanimously, I should say, and we've had some of
the when you think of the best player ever, oftentimes
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you don't say Echro Now he might be up there,
and that person whoever is in the name best player, right,
he wasn't unanimous. So it becomes while I by go, man,
that's kind of wild that you wouldn't vote for him.
We got a whole trail of people we can go
down that list of the greats. Are the greats, are
the great the best ever? And they didn't get unanimous.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
To not getting unanimous, Tom sever anybody name, no matter,
I'm not gonna get it. I mean, rob G, what
would be your response to that? If you're telling me
that that you're okay with Willy May's not getting in unanimous,
but you got your pennies and a bunch over each
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your row.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
It's not that I'm okay with Willy May's not getting unanimous,
or Key Junior, Derek Jeter, whoever the problem is.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
This is why fake news became a thing.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
This is why people do not trust the media, because
you have self important people who believe it's their right
to say, you know what, I'm gonna be the one
to make sure this doesn't happen because it happened to
uh Cal Ripken Jr.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Twenty years ago.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
So I'm gonna be the one to make sure that
each of ro Suzuki, even though I'm gonna vote for
him next year and the year after that, and it's
not gonna be unanimous, because I'm the guy.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm the one who's special.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I'm gonna stand up on my eye horse and make
it seem like I'm gonna be the one who can
decide whose career is worth what and what it's not
when we know deep down whoever did vote or didn't
vote or left the blank ballot as you said, is
just for him again.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Next to you. So what you're doing is full of crap.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
It's embarrassing to the sport, it's embarrassing to the BBWA.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Let's see here it is the BBWAA got it right,
you know what I mean as a whole and Rob
g you can't control everybody, like like, look at all
the other writers who voted for him.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Because they looked at it and whatever. Shouldn't it shouldn't
be the I get the overall. I get what you're saying, Robsey,
that totally makes sense. But I think when you look
at it, if you're telling me twenty god people, only
one didn't vote for me, that's kind of crazy actually,
because nothing in life is like that.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Nothing you're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
A hundred percent in this world where we live, somebody's
gonna see something. Well, he didn't do this, he came
too late, he didn't do enough.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Did he win? I didn't like the way he blah blah, he.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Screwed me over over interview. That's how petty people can
be a time. You know, isn't that the problem?
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Then?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
But should that person have a vote if they are
gonna make it personal and say, I'm not gonna allow
you to be unanimous because it wasn't fair to George
Brand and Hank Garant, Tony Butt Like, no, you should
be trying to right the wrongs of what happened to
the people before you.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I'm right, I agree, but to be able, Like when
you look at some of the percentages, Rob g of
people and other voters, you know, you start to look
at it and go, well, how come this one?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Or like, how come how give it to us?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
The numbers, Rob, So here are the guy the closest
to unanimous, including each before Derek Jeter missed it by
one vote, Ken Griffy missed, David Jr. Missed it by three,
Tom sever by five, Nolan Ryan by six, cal Ricker Jr.
By eight, Ty Cob by four, George Brett by nine,
look at Ty Coon by nine, and last but not least, Tony.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Cob definitely was with somebody wife.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And and Tony Gwynn, who's like one of the greatest
hitters who ever played Thirteen people didn't vote but embarrassed Rob, No,
because this is what.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
You hold because again you mentioned I don't have a kids,
I don't got a wife, like this is one of.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Your most prized possessions. You're a Hall of Fame voter,
no doubt.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
You have somebody who hijacked this moment from one of
the all time great players, knowing that that each year
Row is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
He is or he is, and he is.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
But out of principle, I'm gonna leave him off the
list because I'm petty like that.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I get your point, I do. I still believe it.
I'll hold up to this. He it's his ballot and
he has a right as the way that you know,
you get a ballot and have to earn it. You
have to cover major League Baseball for ten straight years
with a BBWAA car. So they like some rogue guy
who's not in the club and doesn't cover bad You
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can't get a vote without your ten years of service.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So this is their right that they've earned.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
If it's crazy, it otherwise, if there's no vote, then
we should just put people in and never even take
a vote.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But that's not how we were, and it's crazy it is.
You know what it reminds me of to Rob g
It's like the MVP. How we still don't know exactly
what that means, You know what I mean? Like the
most Valuable is he the best because he's the best
on his team, or is he the best player on
the best team. And so point being this writer may go,
it's not that he's not a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I just don't think he's first ballot.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I think he's right there, but I don't put him
on the likes of block filling the blank, filling the blank.
So to your point, he's going to get in, but
I can't make him a hall He's not on the
same tier as this person who I believe is the
first ballot. And we obviously all disagree, but that's their vote.
And that's what happened. When you get people vote, their
definition of what we're they're voting for often changes.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
And often there were people, of course who are like, uh, Rob,
was that you didn't vote, but that you being a no,
that is not me because that was you for everybody
else except that that was you forever. So my ballot
was actually close to what it was. Three There are
people voted for ten people and they honestly put it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Turning a ballot with ten votes for Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well you said, some people like the empty the clip, Yeah,
they fucking ten votes.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Everybody get in.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
All right, did you have a problem with each Yiro
Suzuki being left off of one voter's Hall of Fame
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You want to be where you are? Peter? What's SOX
Sports Radio? What's up? Peter?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
What's up? Guys? How are you all good?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah? We got head right ahead? Yep, all good?
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Ro Are you sure you didn't do it?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
No? I did. I'm positive I did not say that.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Are you sure? Rise? Let me see. It's gotta be
the same moron they taking vote Derek, Peter, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I want to leave that. I don't. I don't. Here's
my thing.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
If you told me that sobody put in a ballot
right when they voted for people, and they didn't put
each your row in as a vote, then that then
I got a problem with that. I believe it has
to be a blank ballot because there's no way you
could post.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
A ballot and put each your row or Joe. He's
the point to thank you for the call, Peter, appreciate you.
And why did they do it?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Is the people? I were right?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
You saw my ballot on there. It says do you
want your ballot to be public? Yes or no? And
you have to check a box. I checked yes because
I'm not hiding anything, but other people don't want their
ballot to be public. And that's the guy who apparently
has decided that he's going to put in blank ballot.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Told you that.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And it's not the Hall of Fame, but that's what
happened in the NBA went to the showing everybody's name
with the MVP, and Steph got unanius that year because
everybody was nervous to be the one who didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Andrew in Virginia, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
What you got buss up? Andrew, thank you very much.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
I literally drive an hour to work each stay at
night getting home, and I listen to you guys every day.
I appreciate what you guys are doing. You are hard hitting.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Thank you guys very much for what you guys do.
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It means a lot, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Philly Wagner. The guy needed to be in man. Don't
let him miss the opportunity. You know, each year, each
road is going to go next year. If it's not
next year, it's a year after that. He's got plenty
of time, and we do it because every year, whether
or not that's baseball, football, whatever it is, You've got
guys that are kind of on the tusk. It's just
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you just have such a good roster of people coming up.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
But Andrew, it shouldn't take that.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Away from people. Man, that's taking it away.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
It shouldn't be. My thing is this whole idea is
not the whole of very good. There's so many players
who are very good and close. Thanks for the call,
but you know that we can't put everybody in it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It's a point of it. It's supposed to be the
very best of the very best. And I've said this
for years. It should be when you say it that
we kind of go oh, Like if we go football
and I say Jim around every yeah, yeah, Reggie White,
Joe Montana.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Like there's no level once you have to debate and
break down somebody's career and you got like Billy Wagner,
well for a left handed picture, like not for.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Era and if you look on Tuesdays and Thursdays, he
would you know. Yeah, then then it gets a little
whirre squeeze and.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
One more Jabari in Michigan, you're on the Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
What's up, Buddy's so guy'll knowing doing good? Yeah I'm
doing yeah Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
So well, good thing.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
I want to talk about baseball because you know, that's
one of the fewest times I can actually get on
because everyone want to talk about backslub football all the time.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
That's right, not only odd couple, you know, Jabari, we
do talk baseball.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you know, because you
know that's my that's my thing too. That's the reason
why I get on too, you know about the sports,
you know. But anyway, yeah, I mean, honestly, Uh, Here's
my thing about this whole thing is that I feel
I feel like if you're going to put out that, hey,
this is a percentage of votes that were where this
is how they got to the Hall of Fame, I
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feel like that's the me person. I think that the
people who are voting, they it should be in public.
That's just me because if you're covering the game and
people couldn't could know that you're covering a game in public,
then we should know who, like who did you vote
or who did not vote and why didn't you vote
that person?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I agree, I agree you shouldn't hide, you know what
I mean, if you're voting for awards, I think every
should we should be transparent and it's.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Fine, especially when you're talking about writers who you're writing
things in the public. This isn't like a diary, right,
You're writing things about players, good, bad, and different about
players for you know, potentially years to decades. I think
you're checking a box. It can be okay with that. Yes,
and Rob g we do know the Digita guy, right who?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Who?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
We know?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
A guy who you took on like he claimed that
he did. So we'll never know because the ballot is
not public. But San Diego Union Tribune columnist Nick Kinneppa
claimed in his twenty twenty two column that he left
Jeter off his ballot and he actually had a blank
ballot two consecutive years. See this is what just because
he didn't like the idea of having a first ballot
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hall up and this.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
This is what I was saying.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That's like, it's gotta be a blank ballot and this
guy in San Diego might be the thing who was
the other one when Judge didn't get a unanimous for
the MVP because two writers who covered the angel yeah yeah, yeah,
voted for Otani. Yeah right, And that was another questionable thing.
But all right, uh there it is.
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Speaker 2 (22:57):
He from? What's up?
Speaker 5 (22:59):
What happening?
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
How y'are doing doing great?
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I want to I want to start here. You played
for the Lions, you were feeling good about them. How
shocked were you at what happened at Ford Field Saturday?
Speaker 5 (23:12):
I wasn't very shocked. Look, look I'm I'm I'm happy
for the Lions. These last two years have been something
they've been needing for decades. But you know, there are
some things that need to be cleaned up now. The
war of attrition is a real thing in the NFL. Right,
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if you don't have one side of the ball available
in terms of starters and people who've earned their position.
It's aim to be tough the deeper you get into
the playoffs to win these games. And so you know,
I've been bullish on on Jaydon Daniels from the beginning.
I had initially picked them to win the division. I
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thought they would be a playoff team, and so just
watching him grow and how dynamic he has been this year.
I thought the Lions were in trouble home fill or
not based on the lack of availability for defensive stars
that they had, and it you know, it played out
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like that.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
But you know Vegas didn't think so they had nine
and that they gave nine and a half points.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Were you shocked at that? Like watching and a half points?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I mean, but not Vegas gave nine and a half point.
People had to cash in big time with the Commanders.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Well yeah, I mean that's a easy that's an easy bet, right,
even if you know the Lions are going to win,
you still make that bet. Uh, in the divisional round
of the playoffs. These are my nine and a half points.
That's that was beyond just.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That was I even said that, you know, I'm picking them,
but I was like, ooh, I didn't like that.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Well, yeah, because you look at them and if you've
watched them all year, you don't come up with that number, right.
And like James Daniels is a problem because he brings
an element of to the game similar to Lamar Jackson.
Where as much as you plan, I mean, you can't
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plan for some of those things, some of those those
throws that he's making from the pocket and extending the plays.
I'm like, goodness, gracious, man.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, why are you reminded me?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Come on, hey from let me ask you this though,
Stop it, man, So you got you have Ben Jonson
out the Bears, Aaron Glynn the least. Obviously he's taking interviews.
Don't go there, don't go there, Aaron Glynn. Him to
the Jets possibly or some other team. You've been and
you were in the league for so long. How does
this play out? The talent is still there. You got Gibbs,
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You've got Goff, you got I'm around say Brown, you
got Williams. The porter of the talent is actually crazy.
And if guys come back healthy, you can feel great.
How much do these coordinators play a role in how
the Lions become next year? Can they keep moving on
and being our without.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Them, Well, I think they play a huge role now
if they keep the same system that Ben Johnson has
put in place, uh for Jared Golf and I'm in
Ross Saint Brown and the backs, and if they can
keep that system in place, Like everybody's coming from a
different tree these days. Right, you got the Shanahan tree,
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you got the the you know, the Andy Reed tree.
Like they're all running similar offense.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Ahead right right, he doesn't, he got a buzzye.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
But but as.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Long as you can keep everyone within the a little
bit of terminology may change. What the best way to
do that is when you're replacing a coordinator at that
higher level, you don't want to rock the boat. You
don't want them to have to spend a whole year
running a new offense. Right. That's how you find teams
who now all of a sudden were offensive powerhouses, and
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then they struggled the next year, especially early on under
the new leadership of a new oc.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Hey from let's talk about the Eagles and uhuon Barkley,
what a year he's had, My goodness, questions you the
league was trying to squeeze out running backs. You could
get to a Super Bowl and win. What a star
running back like a Barkley can't you?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Well, I think I think the pendulum is shifting back.
All of those much maligned running backs last year who left,
whose teams didn't want to pay them, who you know,
played around with the money. All of them were Pro
Bowl running backs, Barcles, all pro Henry right, like, so
everybody have phenomenal years. It's amazing how well you'll play
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and how things can play out. Just being wanted, just
feeling like you can your value is worth it. And
I think that pendulum has swing from overpriced wide receivers.
You know, look look at who's involved in these last
four games. Where's the money? Where are the high priced
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wide receivers on these teams?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I mean maybe Brown, you know, but but other you know,
like you.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Have aj Brown okay and Smith right, and they're not
even he's reading books on the sideline, okay. So dependulum
is switching back to more of a ball dominant offense
where look, two things, three things can happen if you
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pass the ball, and two of them are bad. That
is as simple as that, right, If you've got somebody
you can hand the ball off to when you When
you build a running game, that means you've built your
offensive line as well. So those things go hand in hand,
those that offensive line and and uh in Philadelphia, man
(29:03):
hey moving you take it to taking Beckham uh beg
them from from the Jets and moving him inside. I mean,
this dude is a grown man in there. The Jets
had that level of talent, and they and they moved
away from him.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
He from last thing? Uh, I want to ask you about.
We got it? Uh, Lamar Jackson a couple of turnovers
in the first half, bounce back in the second half,
the defense comes up strong, six points allowed to Buffalo,
he gets the game tie in. Looks like touchdown, two
point conversion. I mean the Mark Andrews when you saw that,
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could you believe it?
Speaker 6 (29:42):
No?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
It hurt my heart. I felt bad for Marcus. Marcus
He's been misterable, reliable, mister dependent for for so many years.
But you know, I put the onus on on Lamar
Jackson in those games. You can't have a first half
like he did. You can't. You can't.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
But even if he.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Came back, he from still even though he threw the
touchdown with a minute.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
And thirty to go, Okay, it doesn't matter because you've built,
You've dug a hole that you couldn't get out of,
no matter what heroics you were doing. You gave the
ball away that led to points twice you in a
one time.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, they didn't screw up both of them.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
But what I'm telling you is, once you give up
that possession and the positions they were to get points,
you're giving up points.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Right, But you're gonna mean I'm not gonna all right,
I'm gonna ask you.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
But Mark Andrews, who had a key fumble in the
second half to let the points and missed the easy
two point conversion, he gets no blame or he gets
some blame.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
No, Mark Mark Andrews, is it up for MVP of
the league?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, but that dad, But you're gonna let.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
A guy no, no, butch, I get it, I get it.
But the onus of protecting the football guy is on you, la.
Mark Jackson is arguably the MVP of No.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
I'm not disputing that, and I'm not trying to make
an excuse for the two turnovers in the first step.
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five for me, none for Rob. Did I say that?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Allow? Oops? Again? Just search Hot.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Couple wherever you give me loves You're a fine today's
show and also shout out to Elijah never heard of him.
Best version posted right after we get off the air.
I feel like you were tearing this right now. You
were tearing this up in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I know you was.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
You was tearing up Studio fifty four, wasn't you, Bob?
Look you got the overbite going to.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
The with the with the bell bottom pan. Yeah, you
were tearing this one down. I know back in your day.
All right, it's time now for Shekel.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
City two, Shekel City, the whole base for Rob Parker's day.
Dix against the scratch?
Speaker 5 (32:37):
How you do?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Bie one and two? Last night nineteen and twenty three
is the record? Here we go for I did get
the Old House day right, Thank god. I was about
to say at the end, I got close there. No,
I was right on that one. I was wrong the
other two games. All right, here we.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Go a lot of NBA action tonight, Orlando Magic minus
one and a half through in Toronto taking on a
sad sec I got this that love Washington plus thirteen
and a half taken on the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
The Lakers win, but that not by that much. But
not by that much.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
You could see that happening yet out very much so
with the Lakers. They might win by four, right, they'll
win though. And then I got the Denver Nuggets minus
twelve and a half hosting Philadelphia. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Who's playing for them. They got so many injuries.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
You never know with the number like twelve and an,
I'm just gonna take Denver at home. So again, Denver
at home minus twelve and a half, Washington in LA
plus thirteen and a half, Washington at home, I mean
Washington in LA plus thirteen and a half, yep, and
at Orlando minus one and a half in Toronto taking
on the Raptors.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
And remember Calvin, what's that. I'm not telling you who
to bet on, I'm telling you who.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Wow, you got any issue? Ben Johnson, now the head
coach of the Chicago Bears. A lot of folks have
said about this Detroit Lions fan, it's funny. Literally, during
our commercial break on the Grand they had the Lions
posted a big picture of him and he said, you know,
congrats and thanks or something like that, and I was like,
let me see what people saying. I thought, for the
most part, you're gonna have, you know, fans for fanatic
(34:09):
man too Bad.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
You were visiting and knew an interview set focusing on
the gate rival Terrible Guy shows where your priorities were.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I'm like, oh no, they're mad.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yeah, And I think fans as you just said with fanatics.
But I think they're totally out of pocket to think
that Ben Johnson shouldn't go to the Chicago Bears because
they were in their division. Dude, here's your opportunity in life.
There are only thirty two of these jobs.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
This might come and go. He's hot with the Lions.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Say he stays and they're bad the next two or
three years, he'll never get another chance at head coaching.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
John on bad.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Report comes out that he's a bad guyered something.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah, so when this opportunity you can't pick the spot
you got Caleb Williams there, you're looking at it going, hey,
I got a quarterback that the Bears are trying to
do this whatever, I think, give me an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
He got some offense around, they got players, They just
got a scheme up. Here's where I would be mad
if I were a fan. Okay, if he took.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
A lateral job where he went to the players as
the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Now I'm mad he got he can't you know it's funny,
Can's I'm mad at him.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Guess who probably went to lunch with him and was
happy the most happy for him, Dan Campbell.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, because he gets it. He had been in his position.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Dan Campbell was a coordinator, was an assistant coach for years. Man,
this thing is hard, you know, getting up and getting opportunities.
You gotta take it when you can. And again, you know,
as a Lions fan, it sucks. You're gonna have to
see him a couple of times, you know, a year.
But duo, this, these things, these there's thirty two of them,
and you already got thirty two head coaches. You already
got thirty two assistant coaches. Then you already got you know,
(35:46):
you keep going down the line of people that's already there.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
You gotta take these positions, these opportunities when you can, uh,
because they're not guaranteed. And they also ain't guaranteed. With
the quarterback, people still believe the best prospects since Andrew.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Look, so I definitely can't turn that down. So I
was I just was shot.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I expected to see some dug clearly, and especially I
knew I was gonna see it right after the game
the next day or so when he takes a gig.
I was shocked to see how many people currently still
telling you. I just looked at Instagram. It's like an
hour ago they posted it or something. Oh no, no, no,
And I was blowing away like that still.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
You know why because fans are starting to look at
the Lions and as you know, did the window close
on us?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Oh my god, Now they're taken away.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
And even Efrom talked about it, trying to keep the
same terminology. Not if you get a new offensive coordinate.
He don't want to do his own thing. He doesn't
come in and mimic what Ben Johnson did.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
That's not what they doing with. I hopeing somebody.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I hope he has had an in turn and understudy
an apprentice. Somebody raps somebody sitting up under me. It's
gonna be You're gonna get her your grandma. I'm teaching
your mom on the recipes. Maybe you put a little
this now, I like to sprinkle a little bit of
that in baby. I hope Ben Johnson was doing that
with somebody else.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
That's really what I'm hoping.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Man, All right, Uh, you got an issue with somebody
getting emotional? Man, tell me what you're talking about rot
Fox Sports Radio. Is he talking about himself
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