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more Our number two and gambling hitting pro sports again.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, so you remember John Tay Porter obviously Michael Porter
Junior's brother. He was banned from the league for life
last year as investigators looking into performances of what he
was doing there some scandal. But now they're looking into
some other players kind of connected to this ring that
had him as well. So you got Terry Rozier of course,
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veteran guard plays with the Heat. He is the subject
of part of this pro by This investigation has him
back twenty twenty three when he was with the Hornets
and they say it's an odd game where he only
played nine minutes and there was a bunch of unusual
bed on him and they had notified the league, notified
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the team, say something's going on.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's a bunch of weird money going on for Terry Rose.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
They know when they see the money, they they're like,
this is too much, right, there's too much money and
probably the under on.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Everything, right, and he's out for the next week or so.
So there's a like concerns about what was going on there.
So there there's a big probe going into not just him,
but other players and also just a ring at hole
as a whole that goes into the college ranks as well.
Uh So this is where we are with this widespread
investigation again, into a lanch game fixing in the NBA,
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also college basketball.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I'm not surprised by this when they got in bed
with gambling. Kelvin here we are, we're here, and you
can't tell me that if I'm in a locker room
and I know Kevin Durant's not playing, but he's not
listed on the sheet yet, right, and now nobody else knows.
I'm a player on a team. I'm not gonna to
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call my cousin or my brother or my friend and say, dude,
load up, Okay, he ain't playing. Nobody knows. Get whatever
the points is. And then they announced right at game
time he's out like that, like that kind of insider trading.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
If you will, you know, like you know these things.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That's why they have all this these rules about the
injury report. You gotta announce it in football. He announced
it on Why do you announce it on Thursday?
Speaker 5 (03:25):
What?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Why?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
To satisfy the gamblers. That's like, let's be honest. Yeah,
it wasn't right. I didn't know he wasn't gonna play.
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And that's why they do it, because they know if
they don't do it, and people put money up and
then they find out that guys aren't playing, they're gonna
be repelled from saying I'm not better. And then all
of a sudden, the money drives up in Vegas and
all this other stuff like they're they're in bed with
each other and there's gonna be more.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
There will be more.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And we saw it with Porter, who you know, for
a guy not that great and his numbers, for him
to be aligned on him, and for so much money
to pour in on a guy like that, you think
they're not monitoring. They are what money goes where it
just gets Here's the thing you just mentioned it. It
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gets sticky.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
When gambling has been around, we know for for forever, right,
people are gonna put they probably back in the day,
putting money on which you know, I bet you this
rowboat is gonna this canoe is gonna get there sooner.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I mean, gambling has been happening forever.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
However, once you start to open the doors where it
becomes so widespread you're talking about it. You literally have
shows dedicated it's a part, you have networks to have
their own gambling sites and things attached to it. You
can start talking about it again during the games like
it becomes you got apps now, and you've got states
that are allowing it that weren't previously. Now it becomes
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a part of the culture. And what happens is it
becomes aligned with the sport. And now it's aligned with
the sport. I guess you could say legally now it's
aligned with the sport publicly. Now it's not in the shadows.
Now it's in that taboo. It's right there out in
the open. And when you start to align yourself with this,
you open up things to happen to the players, to
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fans who might get messed up, to broadcasters because they
might be in the know. To the guy you that
you were kind of what you were alluding to, that
guy who works for the team, that manager, that that
that physical therapist. I know that person's like, hey man,
I don't know. All I know is I've been working
on Player x's knees for the last two weeks and
got it right now. He don't know he's gonna play,
but I know he in a normal self. So if
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the over is twenty eight points to that, trust me,
he ain't doing that. He ain't got it tonight. I
know his ankles bad, I know his needs bad. I
know his mom's sick and his mind is you're putting
people in position to where they have inside information and
they can pass it on top of them. And it's
already been there again gambling, but now that you've made
it so a commonplace, now you've just upped it. You
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look at how sports align themselves with other things. Sports
align themselves with drinking. When you think of sports, you
think of let's either a let's go grab a beer
and watch the game, or first thing you do when
you get in a stadium, let's go grab a beer.
And what happens because you've aligned yourself you go to
a game, A ballgame always fights, everybody's drunk, everybody's hammer,
people getting tickets later on because they were driving. And
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it's just a part of sports. We've aligned ourselves drinking sports.
What's the main commercials to see Budweiser, this and that
and the other. So now it has gotten a place
where these sports franchise, these sports leagues have aligned themselves
with gambling, and bad things happen when you align yourself
with it. Not that it doesn't happen, you never We
try to quit, have people stop drinking or having prohibition
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and next thing, you know, that's where you get all
the mobsters.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
So things are gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
But when you just say, okay, we're opening the doors
and we open the floodgates, these things happen.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Well, here's the thing that people don't realize on how
much sports repelled against gambling for a long time because
they did not want to, you know, jeopardize the integrity
of the game. That's what you don't want to lose.
It is the integrity. What I'm watching is this real
or w w E yep? And that's where people you
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see every weekend, what do you see on on Twitter trending?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Rigged for the NFL Kansas City Chiefs, But it's rigged
every game. It's something a man, they say, we are
what's the phrase everybody's been using the last few years
in the NBA and NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
The script. The script is written.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And let's say somebody randomly at a fifty point nine, oh,
he must not have read the script or some some
quarterback backup guy balls out and they're like, he ain't
get the script, meaning you weren't supposed to beat the
Chiefs want to do team Yeah, absolutely, And here's back
in the day, major League Baseball was so against gambler.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We already know the p Road Store. He never got
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
The guy died without getting in, all right, because of gambling.
And when you walk into a clubhouse you know this.
You've been in the Dodgers, and the biggest sign in
the room is about gam Okay, if you get caught gambling,
gonna be banned for life. There's no ifans or bus
That's what they say, because they don't want that. But
at one point they had Willy Mays and Mickey Mantle
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became greeters at the casino in Atlantic City. Now you
know what a greeter is like, Hey, come on in, Hey,
do you know that Baseball would not allow Willy Mays
after they took those jobs as greeters for money, to
wear uniforms in any kind of thing and be involved
in like all Star games, on any major league event,
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even though they weren't gambling or anything.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But just they gambling mob.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And this wasn't sportsbook, this is just slot machines and stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And they still were like no.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Two of the greatest stars ever play Major League band,
Willy Mays and Mickey manto or prosada non grata.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Now bre you have something you want to add to this.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Well, I was reading that the NBA had already conducted
the investigation.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah this is worth yes, yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
And they that they did not find a violation of
any NBA rules. And I think that's such a little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That's where that's a great point.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
And it was never nobody ever said anything about it.
We never heard about it, and it's been like what
a year and a half now, So yeah, that's.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
That's a great point that now you got this widespread
investigation that's beyond the NBA, because it almost turns into oh,
we gave y'all shot. You know, it always happens with
it could be domestic violence. So say the team will
say we ain't find anything we on and then they
go all right, well let us check and something comes up.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
All we gotta do is talk about Balco and Barry Bonds.
That was a government investigation would a net. They weren't
looking for Barry Bonds. They were looking for uh, stuff
going on with this company and they go through the
files and guess whose name is there?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And they thought it was gonna be more Olympic stuff. Too,
the track and yet that's I've read a really good
book on that, and last one I was gonna you
were just saying a minute ago. I always say, in
the era of so much reality TV, sports is the
only real reality TV.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
That's why it still gets TV. We talk about it.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The only two things on television that get ratings National
news and sports live sporting events.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
That's it, you know, because you don't know what's going on.
Meaning the news is telling what's happening in the world.
Oh my gosh, see last night, you didn't know that
until you saw the news. And NBA right now, right now,
we got we got all different sports on, we got
college basketball, we got hockey over here, we got this
going on, this going. We don't know what's going to happen,
right even with March Madness. On paper, this two seed
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it should beat this fifteen seed. But what happens. It
always happens. I'm fifteen seed beats the number two seed.
We love to see it. Obviously twelve five always happened too.
My point is because we don't know what's gonna happen,
it's the last reality TV, the only reality TV, and
we love it and the idea that stuff is truly rigged,
and this guy is short changing us or he's affecting
the outcome in a negative way.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
He's you know, cheating the system.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It ruins it, man, and in any NFL, NBA MB
they don't want to be connected to that because the
minute you start to lose fans, people are tapped out,
and it becomes as you mentioned WWE, it's it's a
lose lose for all. So the NBA, as breaches brought up, clearly,
they're gonna be like, hey, that didn't happen. We didn't
see anything. It was just a move on, move on,
move on, move on. Then federal investigators start company. Hold on,
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hold on.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Let's try to get as many people in on this
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox and the gambling aspect,
here's the other last part. It's changed the way people
watch games, and it's not as enjoyable because everything no
with the gambling.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's not as enjoyable because you're not rooting for the team.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
You're like, I just got hit another three, exactly, that's
what you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And when you don't get it, You've heard the players,
the NBA players everywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Exactly. You cost me six thousand dollars. You bomb. You
didn't get that and you wanted you I needed you
to get one more free throw. People it's their own team.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
If your favorite team was the uh the Indianapolis Colts
and they were playing some the Buccaneers, and but you
needed the Buccaneers and school over, you know you're like, hey.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I don't go ahead and beat my team. It's it
definitely changing. It has changed.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
At eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, where are
you on gambling?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Has it ruined your sports enjoyment?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And do you expect, like some big star at some point,
big athlete to go down in a gambling scandal. I
believe it's going to happen at some point. Uh So
we want to hear from you. Eight seven seven ninety
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We're talking about this gambling ring that now the investigations
are going big. Part of it is back in twenty
twenty three Terry Rozier with with the Hornets, and they're
saying there was some odd betting place around him. The
NBA didn't find anything in their investigation. We didn't even
hear about it. But now there's a federal one going
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on and which is talking about gambling and sports.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Good thing, bad thing? What say you? Eight seven, seven,
nine nine one five right, and as it affected the
way you watch watch if you it habits.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, Kyle and spoken Washington, you're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
What's up, Kyle?
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Hey, guys, don glad to be on the show.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
I think they need to dial back the sports betting thing.
It's it's really, I mean, obviously, it's it's challenging the
integrity of the game. We have, you know, players shaving points.
Watching sports with someone who's betting on the game is
so just it's it's tedious, guys.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Dude. I just told Rob. I just told Rob.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I have a friend, a close friend for year decades
and that was my favorite friend of talk sports with
in the last two three years. I have every time
May we used to talk about the actual game in
this and game exes and oh what would you do here?
Speaker 9 (14:43):
In this?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And there a man is dude, mess up up? Man
is do mess up? Apart?
Speaker 10 (14:47):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Text message? Hey, It'll be a screenshot of his part.
Hey should I do this? Or should I do?
Speaker 11 (14:51):
Man?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Can't we just talk about the game itself?
Speaker 9 (14:54):
Down?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
What you're getting to Kyle?
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's it's awful. I mean
I get that the sports betting brings up viewership, but really,
if you have to have money on a game to
watch sports, are you really a sports fan?
Speaker 12 (15:07):
Right?
Speaker 7 (15:09):
I mean.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
It's I I just I can't stand going to the
sports bar anymore because there's so many people that are
they're rooting for this player.
Speaker 12 (15:18):
And they're rooting two different teams.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
Man, They're like, oh, I need this guy to get
one hundred yards.
Speaker 12 (15:23):
You just got to get three sacks.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You know, you're not talking about the game.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Would yo, would you go for fourth down on this position?
It is all about that.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Alice in Pittsburgh, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
What's up, Alice?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I thought I wasn't allowed to call on.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I wanted to see you.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Just don't golf snitching on yourself.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Just keep it clean.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Okay, no, no, no, I know you know what I
did that one I want don't.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
Go wait.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Okay's betting going on in NBA. There's going betting going
on in sports betting on games. Does anybody remember Tim
what's his name? Donnie h the Phoenix Suns. Yeah, and
I forget the other guy's name. So you know, when
people say that referees aren't doing this, Like, how can
people not be suspicious of it when that happened? Stuckas
(16:19):
what's under the run?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
No, let me tell you something, Alice. Go listen to
a podcast called Whistleblower. That just that's all i'mna saying.
You listened to that one? Brave breaches your head. Almost
want to say you don't listen to it because it
will make you look at sports differently.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Did you listen to that one? But I've heard, I've heard. Yeah,
I mean there's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
There was a talk about that Kings Lakers game back
in two thousand and two and how that changed, Like
everybody was like, Okay, what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
And that was a big one. Thanks, Alice, appreciate it, Alice.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You know in Detroit this is with the bad boys,
there was a guy who did the clock and what
he would do was just hesitate, you know when you
start the clock, just hesitate just every time four hit
the button, so more time. And the Pristons kept having
more possessions and the score would always go over. They
(17:07):
were like, something's happening, and then they started watching the
tape to figure out But that's.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
What that's what the guy did. Yeah, like just just.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
A little agitation because yeah, at the end of a
game you might have getting four or five extra possession exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And then and then they go over and they were like,
how do the Pistons games go over? All the time?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I always got an extra about twelve to fifteen seconds
a game.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Alex is that North Dakota. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
What's up at Alex?
Speaker 9 (17:33):
Hey not much.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Just want to say, listen to you guys. Listen to
you guys on the way from coaching swimming every single night.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Love the nice thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 10 (17:42):
A couple of ways that I think it's ruined it
for me. I mean one big thing and now I
got kids that used to love coming in and showing
me baseball cards, football cards, anything like that. And now
they're talking about betting on sports thirteen fifteen. That's sixteen
year old. Like that kind of sucks. But I mean,
I love fantasy football, but I can tell you I
big Minnesota Vikings fan, love Justin Jefferson, but when he
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drops forty on me, not a huge fan.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I think it's Yeah, it changed the.
Speaker 10 (18:08):
Same way of gambling.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, it just changed the way you view it for
those personal thing. Matter of fact, it kind of goes
Bay Trumble with Cam Newton. He's like, it makes it
all about that one.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But that's how the NFL got popular, Like people thanks
for the call. People don't realize that it was fantasy
football because there was gambling attached, and people started watching
the game differently so that if the if the Jaguars
are playing, You're like, yeah, and the old days you
did not watch that game, and now you got players
on that team and that's what spurred the attention.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Brett Musburger used to have to sneak it in talking
about it back in the day. You're like, they might
want to keep that player in for reasons, and like
now we just we know what it is about.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Chris in Miami, you're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's ups?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Hey, what's up? Guys?
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I just want to say, you guys are I'm always
driving around and I just are listening guys this year
and you guys.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Are spot on.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
It's like what I'm thinking, you guys are thinking the
same thing. And we all appreciated those last callers are
spot on with you with the.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
That's scary. That's the scary part, Chris, Chris, how about
watching games with friends and whatnot?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
One of the other callers was talking about like he
doesn't enjoy it because there's soot that.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, it's so mad some play or some rebound. The
guy didn't get.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
They're not locked into the game in the moment. They're
locked into talking about other games. Like, dude, we're watching
this game, we're watching the Ravens Bills, and you're telling
me about some NBA game that doesn't matter the Wizards
because you got money on that.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Can we watch the game? Chris, call to man. We
appreciate you. Brian in Ohio, you're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up beat?
Speaker 13 (19:53):
Hey, guys, great show. Listen up this one. Tell me
what you think. Okay, years ago, he's a freshman. He's
on the practice squad of a D one basketball program,
and they start telling all kinds of inside information on
who's hurt, who's not hurt for all these MCDUA teams.
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They're getting all kinds of inside track information. He calls
me up and starts telling me what the bet on
and I have to tell him, you got to slow
that on. I said, you got to you gotta think
about this.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
You're gonna be the NCAA guys in.
Speaker 13 (20:27):
Trouble, right, And he tells me, well, Dad, you're overreacting.
I'm like, Son, you better the brake's on.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
I said, I know you're only on.
Speaker 13 (20:34):
The practice squad, but these guys in the locker room
are talking about this guy's hurt, that guy hurt, this
guy's gonna play this but not gonna play. And he's
making bets on the team that he's practicing for.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
And I said, dude, you got to put the brakes
on there.
Speaker 13 (20:48):
And then I'm gonna touch baseller on Kyle from Spokane,
you know, and now my son, he's a senior. All
his roommates it is so hard to watch a game
with him because all the dudes.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Talk about their best Yeah, all they talk about.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It is unbelievable that thank you, everything works out. But
that's a that's a great point that you're gonna have
a whole new generation of kids who view which.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Is not good for sports.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
If I'm only viewing it from a gambling perspective, that's
not good.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
That was it was almost like what used to bother me,
and we're gonna take more of your phone calls eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox, so you can call
on if you still want to get in. But I
remember watching video big moments in sports where people should
be cheering and going crazy, and everybody's holding the phone
recording the moment. So you don't have as many claps
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and cheers as you used to because people are do
you know what I'm saying, Like you're at a game,
there's like this big moment going on and you're doing this.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
But to be fair, I've had to trade myself concerts
or like you said, sporting events.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Or just whatever. Enjoy the moment. Enjoy the moment.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
It's your natural inc grab phone, grab your phone, but
it's also to enjoy the moment. All right, you mentioned
the eighty seven seven niney nine on Fox. Will take
some calls in the US breeze, Gonna give us a
little bit more insights, some more addition to this news
and the story. Yes, at Company Liffdtiretrack dot Com Studios,
we still have this conversation about gambling in sports and
it's kind of a multi layer thing for those if
(22:13):
you just checking in, we were talking about there's a
new investigation into a gambling ring. If you recall what
happened of course with the porter, Jontay Porter, and then
you have now Terry Rozier in question of a game
back at twenty twenty three where unusual amounts of betting
was put on, specifically Terry Rozier, and then he only
(22:35):
plays nine minutes and there was no concern going into
the game. So they're going to the investigators are looking
into college basketball the NBA. The NBA didn't find anything
in their investigation. Now it's a federal investigation going on.
So there's that.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
End of it.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
And then also the conversation we're having is, well, gambling
has always been a thing in sports, has it now
kind of tainted the way you view it or your
friends with it, or maybe you love it, maybe you're
all in. Maybe it's way more of enticing in fun
for you eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Brie
you were talking about.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Troy Aikman added a little something to it as well.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Yeah, so he was actually on the Sports Illustrated podcast
and he was saying that, like, the officials are getting
scrutinized so much because of all these partnerships with different
like gambling, like DraftKings, prize picks, like everything that we
were talking about. So one of the quotes he said was,
here you are promoting gambling. People are gambling more than
they ever have before, and those types of calls there's
a lot at stake, especially when you're considering there's a
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lot of money that's changing hands with these calls as well.
I think we owe it to the fans to get
it right.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
We should just get it right, to get it right,
but not for the gambling, not for a gambling standpoint.
But he's right, that's why so many people are upset.
And we see rigged trending every Sunday.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Every Sunday.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
You're in football just every Sunday, all right, eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox Rick and Tampa, you're on
they couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
What's up? Rigging? What's up?
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Rick?
Speaker 12 (23:55):
What's having?
Speaker 9 (23:56):
Rob?
Speaker 14 (23:57):
Huge sand Man for you?
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Thank you and Michael.
Speaker 14 (24:01):
I'm just learning about you man. Your quality there. I
mean you got the goods as well.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I appreciate you. Thank you.
Speaker 14 (24:05):
Rick hey Man, where give me the Greek when you
need them?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That's right, you.
Speaker 14 (24:12):
Know, And he had to do it in a fancy
way on CBS real quick. You're not going to tell
me that there was only one that rest man that optically,
even if there was. I think as a fan man,
you know, I'm going to Miami man on the street,
You're not going to tell me. In a million dollar
industry like the one bad Riff. Especially the other night,
I watched a little thirty to thirty from back in
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the day with the swing of the Boston College thing
the Titan. Yeah right, and I'm watching I'm thinking, damn,
it's just that easy.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And now it's even easier because, like you know, like
people talking about gambling, and everybody can vote, I mean,
can gamble.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
So you could call up your cousin in the city.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
And go like, yo, man, put something down, I'm telling you,
and that makes.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
Rick.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
So many different ways, it's just me like over under
the game and now there's just players and this person
going to hit this many threes, and you can affect
the game in so many ways.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Now, Fletcher in Houston, you're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What's up, Fletcher.
Speaker 12 (25:13):
Yeah, I don't think this is any big earth shattering comment,
but in a decade in society like we live in.
When you add uh and with all the entitlement stuff,
and you add more gambling and you like you'll mentioned
with the alcohol and stuff, it's just it's just it's
a it's a recipe for disaster in the long run.
(25:35):
And uh and if the first time that somebody finds out, uh,
some sports league covers up gambling looked over.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right, that's the that's the integrity thing. And that's why
baseball came down so hard on Pete Rose because they
don't want the idea or people feeling like, well, Pete
Rose is the manager and he's get this closer in.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
That's why exactly it changes everything. Appreciate the call. Yeah,
And that's the and that's the thing when you open
the floodgates and you allow it becomes synonymous with it.
Like I said, we've all you think of sports, you
think of drinking. It's just a part of it. But
there are things that now come with it with the drinking. Right,
you get a fight, you got the DRAMs, you get
people all inys in trouble. It's just a part of sports.
Gambling has become now an open ended part of sports
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where you're talking about it, you got leagues are doing it. Uh,
the people who broadcast your games are in partnership with it.
It's just it's everywhere. It's pervasive.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Sully in El Paso, you're in the couple of five
South Radio.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
Hey, brother, how y'all doing right?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Great? Bud, Hey, you.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
Guys are awesome, man, I just want to tell you
all right, thank you. I agree. Also, all the gambling
is taken away from sports and the front of watching anything,
especially in boxing.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Well why you say boxing, Being a.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
Former boxer and coach, I see it. I mean all
these ridge you know, the Tyson.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Jay right, yeah, And you know what in Vegas, everybody
bet on Tyson. You remember that because they were They
were told solo bill of goods. Ah, look at him
for sixty He's going to knock his block off all
this other stuff, and everybody Vegas laughed all the way home.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
And that was even a real fight. No appreciate it.
Always one more and we gonna squeeze one more.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Paul and pencil, Tucky, you're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yes, that's that's pencil and pencil.
Speaker 15 (27:27):
So yeah, back to you guys, were talking about the
kids getting involved.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
My nest.
Speaker 15 (27:31):
You've got this app where it's using like free like
gold coins and they can bet on you know, football
profess therething. I'm like, dude, where'd you find this? Yeah,
and it's like good things. They're all over it and
this will prime them obviously.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Right, that's the whole promise of it.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Now you're winning the gold coins, that's on working some
real coin then and then when you're eighteen you could
start betting money.
Speaker 15 (27:54):
Yeah, and and like and gamble has been around forever, right,
just the beginning. Just now, it's just now it's like
the Barber streis Man effect. Everyone sees it, everyone got
access to it, so it's more out there. But the
scandals have always been there, so like, I think it
might be a little bit overblown, but again it's definitely
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a soreride.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Hey, Paul, let me tell you this real quick, all right, Kelvin,
this is probably the greatest thing I ever heard. When
Pete Rose Junior made the Cincinnati Read, he's playing his
first game and they interview Pete Rose in the stands
about his son's first game. Paul, you ready, They interview
Pete and Pete can't help himself.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You know what he says to the recorder. I bet
you he gets a hit like like he couldn't even
he couldn't even.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Go without even saying something about gambling. And of course
he was come on, Pete, man, come on, Pete. Thanks Paul,
appreciate it for the call.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah, that's my little last button on it is just
that's the worst part. It's just going to be a
generation of people who are used to gambling, ruining their lives,
ruining their college experience and losing money, got kicked out
of school, all types of drama because this is become
the norm that we have just made it where you know,
this is accepted.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
This is what you do.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
You can't just enjoy sports unless you're gambling, and that
shouldn't be the case.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Man, man, we had a great conversation. Every Stendy calls,
appreciate it. Everybody really good on this.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
So I have more conversation too, except it's gonna be
about shop talking. Something that happened to me today. I
think you said it happened to you as well. We'll
tell you about it in the moment. It's Robin Kelviny
couple of fox Worth.
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Speaker 1 (29:44):
Bed bet.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Now, what show is this? Growing Paints, Growing Paint kirkca,
I know the name of.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
The Allen like this.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Robin thinks Dad, Alan think actor. He went on a
bunch of these like yeah, he was going crazy with
the pen game. It is the odd couple. Robin Kevin
on a TV theme song Thursday.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I know somebody who's not thick anymore?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Can we get an update? Oh? You want an update? Yes,
all right.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
This is for rob G who was uh changing things,
changing some anatomy?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
What he got a haircut? You got a haircut, That's
what I'm saying. That's changing things.
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Sometimes you gotta switch it up. Snip snip a little bit.
That's all. Shout to Robb G.
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Speaker 1 (30:47):
All right, stop shop talk. Ain't nobody's snipping a bum shop?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Ain't nobody you were talking about? Whoever, whatever, whatever you
want you in the boss up, you know, the shop
telling me all right.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
So there's a new phenomenon that's been maybe two three
four years in the making.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
That is tipping.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
And no, I don't mean the traditional sense of tipping, Rob,
I'm talking about anything you do.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
They're swinging that.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Screen around and anytime soon he ain't tipping no more
right now. And so there lies the conversation of today.
I go to get my chai latte and every day
I go into the spot or every couple of days,
they swinging around and it tip tip tip, and you're like, man,
I'm just ordering a coffee or I'm just picking up
a coffee, already paid for my app, and they're still
(31:33):
like tip Manti. You go to a restaurant, you ordered
a call ahead, you pay for you even paid for
it through the app, Tip tip everywhere. So bree Manzi, Alex, Rob,
are you team? I tip any and everything? No matter what,
is there a limit? Is there a, Hey, you gotta relax.
I just called to order in. I'm not tipping already paid.
Where do you guys stand on this?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I am against the idea to you go into a
carryout or even I was in a restaurant where you
go order at the counter, take your number to your table,
and they just bring you your food. It's not like
you order and there's a waiter or a waitress. I
don't believe that's a twenty percent tip.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
But it's not a.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Rest service me throughout the day, right, you know what
I mean? No, I mean I leave a tip, but
it's not twenty percent. The one I hate the most.
And we do this when we go to the NABJ
convention or you're a part of these big things and
you're at the hotel bar and they want a twenty
percent tip on drinks. Yeah, like like, no, I'm gonna
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leave you a couple dollars, like I would do if
I buy one drink, but they give you a thing
and they want twenty percent.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I just bought five drinks right.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
For everybody at the bar, and it's one hundred dollars
and they want a twenty dollars tip.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Now, are you kidding.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yeah, it's it's the culture of it has gotten crazy
and the worst part about it, man, See they make
it has now become awkward for me, the customer, and
for the person They don't They didn't do it. They're
just an employee, some twenty three year old. But when
that thing's spinning around, it has a stamp, and now
I gotta do the look. They gotta do the awkward
little turn.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Like they're not looking because I don't want to tear
you and I now you're under pressure. Should a tip?
Should and not? It makes it weird? Wear are you?
Speaker 16 (33:13):
I'm with Rob, Like, if I'm going to a place
and I'm ordering that a counter and I'm taking a number,
like is it just me and one other person?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I'm probably not going to maybe a.
Speaker 16 (33:21):
Dollar if I'm feeling it, right, But if I like
place of takeout order and it's like eight people's order,
I might lead and it's over one hundred dollars, I
might leave you ten, like a takeout.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Order at a restaurant. Right right.
Speaker 16 (33:31):
Coffee is hard, right, somebody once told me like about
it because an alcoholic drink, you're supposed to tip a
dollar per drink.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's that's what I've always done. I've always done. You
want to add a little bit more for just drinks.
Speaker 16 (33:41):
Okay, So sometimes like if I go to Starbucks, I
might like on the apply fifty cents because it's like,
you did make me.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
A coffee that I'm not making.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
But but so the argument would be that's I there,
employer and paying them. I missed the Starbucks and paying
said employee. Baristay send saying like.
Speaker 16 (33:58):
That's it, because it's like, yeah, maybe thank you for
making my drink.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
That I can't make.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
No, So I've become much more of a tipper, even
away from this weird new phenomenon tip of but just
in general, uh, it's you know, God has blessed me.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I like to try to be pleased. That doesn't mean
you need to own it, but the pressure, the pressure
on it. I don't like the new everything is every
single thing is a tip.
Speaker 16 (34:19):
If I'm sitting, I'm tipping twenty or more percent if.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (34:23):
What I've realized is I need to have this screen
every time Calvin walks in here with thirty seconds left
for the braink because he's a tipper over here. You
can tip me for the good shows I've been helping
out with everybody or your advice on how to fascinate
like this. This is my thing before any of this happened.
Even the restaurants where they demand me to tip them,
What did you do for me? Did you come check
my drinks? Did you bring my food on time? Did
you check if my food was good? Like somehow we've
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lost the sensation of these people are getting raided.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
This is so show me.
Speaker 11 (34:48):
You want my value, so give me good service. For
some reason, we've lost it. I've had people in arguments
tell me twenty percent no matter what, what if your
food's called twenty percent. Dude, I'm not paying you for
anything else. I'm paying for the would you asked, and
that's what I'll pay for. But if you help wine
and dine bring the extra base right, they'll give you
some good I'll take care of you. Took care of me,
but at a freaking Starbucks place and picking up food
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and like even delivery drivers are asking for tips.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You're getting paid.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
You got a tip on asking by the way, a
delivery driver, I try to take care when you or something.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yes, I'm gonna tip you because I'm lazy. I should
look at my own food.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I'm gonna take care of you. But the thing I
also don't like is these apps. I have now created
it where they automatically put it in there if you don't.
If you don't, you don't, the tip will be in
there automatically.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
So you're like, I always give a to b Ice
to say, hey, we got a tip for you.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Okay, don't bet on the races, and that would be
the tip.
Speaker 9 (35:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
No, wait, what do you mean? Racist horse? Okay? All right, man,
stuffing on, all right, now we get a little nervous.
Speaker 11 (35:44):
Don't you know where it all went bad where the
original tippers were asking for money.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
The church is passing the basket around the Now you
want to get philosophical theological, but I usually get change
out of the church, baskeom So.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
See now I'll be fifty dollars and then I'll take
seventy dollars.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
That's why I'm here. I'm a drag yall of heaven
with me.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Hit him like anybody else, Get anybody else on your list, Kevin,
I'm like, I got Alex rob come on, Lord, let
him in.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I'm just making man. I put in a hundred, I'm
making change. Sports Radio