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Sean King was wrong too right he picked the chief.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Hey, he gave us that I can't better against the
chiefs what you should have because you got it wrong, Todd.
Everybody's saying that Rob g knew they weren't gonna win,
and he still went along with it.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I was runged.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
I need the same energy when Rob's wrong about something.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
See that's what you know what I learned? Hey asked me,
what was learned over this weekend? You can.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
I got to spend the most time I've ever spent
with you all. Obviously I see you every day, but
just we went to lunch a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
With the dinner.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
We really hung out a lot, and I got to
really chop it up somehow. Oh, you're going to try
to say something bad about me. I'm not gonna say
nothing bad about you. Actually, no, I told you what
I just tell you earlier. I told the people really
enjoy you you got a lot of people showing you
love and it was great to be around that you
know hates it. He hates to walk around with me.
He just because you can't stay yeah, and trying to
get some time.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I'm coming Rob.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
To me.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
To be fair, it's not as far because NABJ is
like that where people trying to like, hey you been
to every two seconds. But what I was trying to
say was Rob g to your point. See that's the
problem diplomacy. I mean, you know, hey, man Eli Manning
didn't make it. And then you know what Rob Parker
likes to do. He likes to Hijackie before you can
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get to your point. So I'm like, man, let me
tell you, it's crazy. The writers of America. I'm disappointed
to know you. No, no, no, it's all now. I
know your tricks. Don't start looking away at your little
salad with no.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Dressing, no drum. Did you notice that that is a present.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Although the worst part about it is we have to
give you CPR because you can't just eat dry lettuce.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
No, just a little bit like just a little okay,
because I was about to say, you gotta do something
because you know, Schmutz a little schmutz of ranch because.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I might say, I'm not about a round in our
CPR yough because you out here eating dry lettuce.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
No, but you you defeat the purpose if you're going
to douse it with.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Sell without a doubt, or you could just use the
light the vinagrettes. You don't need like the ranch splash exactly.
The point is that's what you'll be doing. Rob I
figured you out el like man and don't make it
from the first battle. I've been telling you that since
the day your hand my god Josh Allen was the MVP,
and I've been telling you that for the whole rob
Z hit or not, Boy, I'm ready to let loose. Hey,
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you know, let me tell you, Lamar. It's just interesting
and the motors. Yeah, you think you slick, don't look away,
look away, it's all. I know your tricks. I had
a bat on football.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I know your.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Tricks and you know how I know I had a
batter football season, Alice, can we here to music.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Hew ale one rob G who didn't win. We went
all the way to the last game and dang me
sway to me.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's what I let me down.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
But like I've been telling that man all year. I
told you, Josh Mahon, Josh Allen was going VP. You're right, Josh,
get to Patrick Mahomes. But but yeah, certain point is
I learned your tricks, so it's on and popping. I
was watching the studying this weekend. Let's get to Patrick.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Let's do it all right, they suck. It's real simple.
There is no goat conversation with Pat Mahon. It's over, Okay.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I thought it was premature anyway, I.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Do no not, Yeah'm sorry Somethhow really bad happened on
the WHO game?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I'm bad, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I thought it was premature because he wasn't even better
than Joe Montana yet and people were ready to crown him.
And I'm not saying he is. He's won three Super Bowls. Well,
I got mad respects for Patrick Mahomes. But this whole idea,
I do I have respect, but the idea that he
was chasing Brady and if he won this one, would
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you have to say that he's close to Brady or
he's going to pass Brady or could you said you
would identify or recognize him?
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Brady said, if he said, if he gets the five right,
we can start having like that for real conversation.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Here's my problem with it is that, And this was
why I always said I would take Eli like, Okay,
he's got the three super Bowls, but Rob G, his
numbers in the super Bowl are atrocious, right that.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
They just are.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So along with winning the super Bowls, which you get
credit for, there's also a degree of how well you
play in those super Bowl games. Right, we're just talking
about super Bowls, and that's where he's fallen short. Right,
of all quarterbacks, Rob G, with three in three super Bowls,
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what do you got for me?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Give me the numbers.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
So, of all the quarterbacks have at least three super
Bowl rings, again, it's a very short list. Patrick Mahomes
has by far the worst touchdown interception ratio number one
of course Tom Brady. His is twenty one to six.
Joe Montana. Actually, if you want to be really stickler,
eleven is zero. His is the best. Troy Aikman five
to one. Even Terry bratch I was taking heat on
this show as recently. His last week nine to four
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Patrick Mahomes, even after two garbage time touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And you will admit that, right those two touchdowns at
the end those are garbage touchdown.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Oh he and that was just trying to say six right.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
And then ten touchdown seven picks ram in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And his quarterback rating, rob G eighty six point nine?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Is that what it is? That is correct?
Speaker 6 (06:58):
I'm almost twenty points low where than his normal postseason
QBR or passer reading.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So I think that that hurts him when you talk
about Patrick Mahomes and this go conversation, this loss is
a huge loss for him. And here's the other thing. Now,
Tom Brady was three and two in his first five
The only here's the scary part is you know Brady
went nine years without winning and then one knows four
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at the back end, which put him in rarefied air.
Here's the problem. Patrick Mahomes isn't in the greatest shape.
Would you would you read that?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
What do you mean? I don't. What do you mean
by that?
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Don't?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I don't? Are you meaning he's Luca? Is he out
of shade? What you're trying to.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Say, Rob G? He's got a dad Bob going for it.
But I'm trying to say where Tom Brady was with
the training and being able to play till he was
forty five. I don't see Patrick Mahomes playing the forty five.
Would you we got that'd be fifteen more years. Would
you agree with that? Fifteen that's a rarity, I'm saying,
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that's a rarity.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
That's That's what I'm saying, more than tune of the decade,
meaning like I give another ten to twelve Max and
a chance.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Crazy Andy Reid retires. Kelsey's about the retire. That's the
feeling I get. He might want to go ahead and
just call it go ahead. He looked slow, terrible. I mean,
for real, I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
So I think.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Patrick Mahomes was never ahead of Joe Montana in my eyes,
even with the three before. Yes, I'm not just trying
to say, oh he lost even with because he already
lost before that. But with three and one and he
has two stinkers in the Super Bowl two. Patrick Mahomes
has four really bad games and two of them have
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come in the Super Bowl, and now he's three and two.
I think he's out of the goat conversation for me.
I've told you before, Joe Montana's my goat. Tom Brady
would be second for a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
They picked Tom Brady, But there's no way Patrick Mahomes
is in front of Joe Montana, all.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Right, So I think he hurt his chances for the
goat last night. Do I think he's out of the race.
Absolutely not, and often I mean really because of the
step of the stuff you just said.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
He still has another decade.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Tom Brady was three and five at this point, I
mean three and two in Super Bowls three and two,
and we thought that that's pretty much it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Right, nine years go by.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
You love to mention that, Well, guess what, after nine
years he ended up winning another four.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That is crazy.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
He won another four Super Bowls and that can very
well happen too.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I do not see.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
But for me, he doesn't have to I'm not out
even in basketball. Said so, what does he have to do?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I don't want to hear a question. I really want
to hear that.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
When Ben Yama, who's like twenty, let's say he plays
the twenty years whatever, he could potentially be the goat
if he only has four or five rings. To me,
it doesn't singularly just mean rings. That is a large component.
But I need to know, accolades, I need to know
my eye tests. What did I see, I need to
know how you handle adversity. So to me, there's a
bunch of things that go in and when I'm calling
to go, it's not just simply rings in any sports,
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not just rings. But that's so what I say, that's
a big point, said, it's a large component. I absolutely
said that. So, meaning you can't be the goat if
Patrick Mahons never wins again for me? Right, I said
five when we talking about it on Friday, I believe
he's out there and if he finishes with three, he's
not in what goat compisations? Right, I'm agree, I said
he can't be the goat. I said he has to
have five. On Friday, I said, if he SATs five,
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and I'm assuming that would lead to more great seasons,
maybe the MVP two.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Five and two more losses. So he won five, but
he lost over five and four whatever.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
And I also saw, I'm just giving you two wins,
and I'm giving say and I'm saying, was I seeing
him continue to be good to great, meaning they weren't
just like I was just along for the rides. Then
we can have some talk meaning in between, let's say
he got better, the team got better, he won another
two MVPs. There are other components, then yes, he could
still can be consideration for me, because when I look
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at what he's done this far, Rob it's crazy. He's
twenty nine years old and the man has already won
three Super Bowls, three Super Bowl MVPs. He's two time
All Pro. Tom Brady was only three. He's two time already.
Tom Brady was obviously, I think was thirteen time off prof.
I'm not mistaken. Fifteen time All Pro, Pro Bowl, fifteen
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time Pro Bowls. He's already obviously at six. For Patrick Mahomes,
he's been an MVP twice. I mean like he's on
the track literally to match what Tom Brady did and.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Do another thing. Reason that he's not on a track
how was?
Speaker 5 (11:53):
I don't understand how you're saying he's three just like
Tom Brady, because what Tom Brady did at the end
is unheard off, and he's been more pro than Tom
already prolific. Tom got prolific later.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, But but you see the erosion of Mahomes's game.
That's the part that I'm trying to say to you
is that he hasn't gotten better with age, He's gotten worse. Well, so,
so why would I believe that all of a sudden,
because I'm five questions from the question five years, he's
going to be better than he is.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Question Tom Brady Man Tom Brady to go to himself
mentioned that during the broadcast. He said what a lot
of people see is about numbers and about stats. He said,
when I've been watching him, what I understand He said,
game management sometimes is a compliment for us quarterbacks. You
all think it's bad, he said, for us because every game,
every season, it's a different team and it requires something
different from me.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
So this season, I might have to be X.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
This season, I might have to do why this season,
I'm might have to do Z And he said he's
been able to do that and get the job done.
So to your point, meaning next season, he may say
I need to go back to throwing forty five hundred
yards and forty touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I don't believe that, Like like that sounds nice.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You can't tell me that Patrick Mahomes dummy down his
game to have sixteen in or something jump.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
But what they need I don't believe that. I don't.
But here's what I'm saying. I don't. I don't they.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Get Tyreek Hill, who once had been waiting, was fifteen
and two and he got zero because numbers.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
No, but if it's just not numbers and it's about managing.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
The team and doing itself, that they need crazy numbers, right,
But Lamar Jackson numbers were literally ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I just I don't think that you're going to return
to that as what I'm trying to say. I think,
and I said this, Rob, do you remember that Patrick
Mahomes had Plateau?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Didn't I say that that was you?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
We could find the video, Elijah b I'm dead, sir,
that he Plateau. There was a point where I thought
he was on his rise or whatever I mean. And
and Chris was always the Jordan esque. I bet you
we would call Chris right now. There's no way after
that performance, could you call him Jordan esk right?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
But could you? I'm asking you just just the idea.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Still I still say that. I still say yes because
he's twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
That's a fair. Listen.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I'm not mad at that. But I'm also not gonna
take one game. I'm gonna say he has nine ten
more years, two bad games, dude.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Listen, Listen when he's done in the postseason. No, No,
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
I'm talking about the super Bowl, right, But in order
to get to the super Bowl, I have to be no,
because you're literally ignoring what makes someone great.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
But what makes Brady great is that he won seven
super Bowls, not wait to be great in the regular season.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
You get there.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
But what makes him to go to you is that
he won seven, not that he won playoff games.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
So you gotta stay consistent. That's what.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
You're totally missing. No, I'm on, or let me phrase that.
You're missing my point. Okay, it's not a singular thing.
Michael Jordan didn't just win six he also was a
scoring title. Nobody talking about the playoff All of ads
to it is what I'm saying. When you're the gomedy
playoff games and Michael Jordan, what I'm saying you, what
do you mean have I don't.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I don't know because you just talked about But how
did you get to the player?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
But I'm asking you, nobody knows those numbers you do.
All I'm saying, I mean, dona be playoff games? Did
Tom Brady win? If Eli Manning won five rings? But
he was the Eli Manning.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
We saw the reg you would have a different like,
oh he was good, but he didn't want all those rings,
or he was a part of a team.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
But it's not just about to just the rings.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
It's also as eye test Patrick Mahomes doing things we
literally never saw the first four or five years of
his career. That's why people started having these conversations. Did
we not see no other than the fifty touches passing?
We'd never seen Tom Brady ain't never in his life
through it, no look behind the back, flipping over his head. Okay,
have you seen that in the last two years? Well
he did one yesterday as well. So what I'm saying
what made Jordan was because we never saw anything like
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Jordan wasn't just the rings when you say these things
is because Jordan was literally air. Jordan flying through the
air switched his game went from flying through the air
to what posting you up? So I'm saying that there
are changes in your career Allah fifty touchdowns, Allah, fifteen
to two.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
The changes when you don't get for the last.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Two You can't tell me Tom Brady didn't win for
nine years and then tell me Patrick Mahons has a
decade and he can't possibly win more.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Now that literally doesn't make sense.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
I don't think he's gonna win again, that's fair, but
I think he has a chance to.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Has Patrick Mahomes
already been eliminated from the go conversation? I say yes,
Kelvin says no, what do you say? We'll continue that
conversation next with you. It is the Odd Couple on
a Magic City Monday right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Stick and stay.
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For another pointless conversation about a quarterback who will win
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Speaker 4 (16:40):
EVA. No, you said it was this rig so he's
gonna win one on the winning No, no, no tricks,
so they can't go.
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you can't. I saw your pajamas in the car my
way walking in. Yes, I saw you actually had your
toothbrush and everything. You stayed here, all right. We're talking
about the Chiefs, specifically Patrick Mahomes that loss. Did he
take him out of the goat? Does he still have time?
(17:47):
I think he has another whole decade to continue to
add the accolades. Rob says, it's a rat.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Let's watch it, Jackson, Kansas City. I wonder what he's
gonna say. You're on the odd couple. You don't say, Jackson,
I told you they weren't gonna win.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
I'm glad Jackson.
Speaker 10 (18:03):
Yeah, you know, I come and stand up for mine. Baby.
You got to take your looking like they we got
cooked in that line. They did, My God, absolutely cooked.
You hear me? But what I will say to you know,
Kelvin uh as far as Rob Parker is concerned, and Rob,
thank you for taking my call, by the way, But
as far as Rob Parker is concerned, he's like an
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old school sports radio guy, you feel me, So he
has to use this certain type of inflammatory language in
order to make it work, you feel me. That's how
That's how they did it back then. So instead, man,
the Keys got beat, which they did, Patrick Mahomes lost,
which they did. Then you what what did Rob wants
(18:46):
to tell you? You must have a fever about taking
uh Eli Overpatt in a big game. As bad as
he played yesterday, Man, that old line was that was
terrible and it's obviously an issue they knew they were
dealing with. They tried to fix it in the off
season and didn't work. So you go back remember the
(19:06):
last time that you want to talk about, when Brady
smacked him in the Super Bowl. Guess what they did
the very next year They fixed her ol on yep, yep,
back two backs all right?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
At Jack's good luck with that because Mahomes ain't that quarterback,
especially in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Appreciate your call.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Don't worry about Jackson. I'm here for a few more.
We got plenty of years to prove he's wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Better not take up for Mahomes.
Speaker 11 (19:35):
Andre, Hey, thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 10 (19:39):
Listen.
Speaker 11 (19:39):
I have to rob, I have to be of a
Patrick Mahomes. And based on the fact that listen, his
climb up Mount Olympus had been delayed, It's been the first,
but in no way, shape or former is it over
because with Tom Brady there was a decade gap. There
was a ten year gap between the runs that they had. Yeah,
the question for me about Patrick mahon Holmes is tom
(20:01):
Brady got a young Bill Belichick, Patrick Mahomes, it is
old Andy Reid. So he is not going to have
the same circumstance throughout the entirety of his career.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Kney Weed is a half of pork chop away from
not being around.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I'm just telling you eating that pork chot right now too.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
And so this is the moment an opportunity for the
Lamar Jacksons, the Joe Burrows, the Josh Allens of the
world to climb up and usurp him. Okay, because if
they don't take over now and it becomes with the Chiefs.
They've taken their hits and they've got right back up
and continued on, going to AFC Championship again, going to
Super Bowls. So I don't think he's still right there
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with Tom Brady. He can still get right back up
to the top if these other guys don't overtake him.
But the real question is how he deals with this
next phase of his career. And the Chiefs moved through
not just Patrick mahomes early years in his prime, but
through you know, as he climbs up in the back
half of his career. We don't know how he's going
to navigate that. We know what Tom Brady did.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Thanks taking the call, all right, that's right, get him
at another decade, Rob, Thank you for the calls.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
We appreciate. Do you see what just happened? Right?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
So, so I'm trying to make sense that we were
looking up at this game that's on Shekel City.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You you won, right, I did win, But but but
I thought that they would put up a basket because
they had to run the clock out and then give
the ball back to Washington.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Yeah, good, I'm with you. You went you had eleven
right when matter of fact, I'm gonna let Steve do that.
Here is what's shenning.
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What I mean? You got? You gave me the chase?
They got beat down? What happened?
Speaker 10 (22:10):
Uh, let's let's say this. First of all, the game
plan I thought was very imperfect, which is surprising. I
didn't think Stagnola brought pressure like he normally does. And offensively,
they just abandoned the one game. Then you're added the
fact that Patrick Mahomes played the worst game we've ever
seen him play and it turned into really a terrible
(22:32):
game from entertainment stampoint. That was yeah, yeah, that tup
to the Eagles, though, Man, they showed up. They took
advantage of every opportunity. And you know why, at least
for the time being, my Homes is kind of out
of that Brady discussion because we've never seen Brady play
bad like that, and that how.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
About Joe conversation? He ain't even better than Joe Montana.
Can we stop that?
Speaker 10 (22:57):
And and again, let me make sure I put context.
You know, rock like to jump off the bridge, I'd
like I'd like to look over the edge. As of
right now, I think for the first time in a
long time, Mahomes had some proven to do next year.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, and that's a fair point.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
I was talking about it earlier, Sean that that's a
fair criticism. Like he can't beat without criticism, and he
has been. This season was an odd season where he
was just trying to manage and just do what he
needed to do. But it wasn't great to his standards.
Super Bowl was horrific, even though it was the offensive
and the numbers in the Super Bowls aren't great.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I mean you saw him showing ten touchdowns, seven picks,
and two of those touchdowns were garbage touchdowns in this
Super Bowl, and his quarterback rating is eighty six point
nine in super bowls.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
He hasn't played that well.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
Here's what was alarming, because I I went back and
rewatched it today. He had guys open. But for I've
never really seen him have happy feat like he did.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
He was getting blitched. I mean the straw laid out.
Speaker 10 (24:02):
But the way to beat the blitzer is to get
the ball out on time, and he had guys open.
And I don't know if he got flustered by the
time of possession because Philly, I mean Philly took almost
the whole first quarter on their first drive. But he
just didn't play well. Man. Those interceptions where bad decisions,
bad throws, Like a couple of times he had guys
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open and he was off target. I just have never
seen Mahomes play that poorly in this type of game.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Seaun King our guest couple, Robin Kelvin. Then let's go
to the real side, which is the winners and Eagles.
What did you see from Jalen Hurts?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Everybody said, all you have to do is shut down,
and they did it. And what happened? How did you
view his performance?
Speaker 10 (24:44):
Their defensive game plan was, we're gonna see if Jalen
Hurts will be patient and just play the quarterback position
at a high level. And that's what Jalen did. He
didn't do anything spectacular. He didn't really make any out
of this world plays. He simply found the open guy.
I delivered the ball accurately and kept picking up first downs.
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I was shocked at I was shocked Spacnola didn't go
back to his pressure packages. They were locked in to
stop the run game, which they deep three effectively, but
Jalen made him pay. He kind of dinked and dunked,
and you know, when he did get a chance to
go downfield, he completed it. Yeah, and before you know it,
you know, and the turnovers in and now it's it's
twenty something to.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Zero, twenty four at the half. It was smacked down.
Bad day.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Also, the game plan for the chiefs Andy Reid, I'm
calling for him to retire.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Uh you think I'm off the deepense?
Speaker 10 (25:37):
Yeah, see there you go jumping again. The guy been
at three Super Bowls in the road some about retired.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
What did he do? When were the adjustments in the
second half? Nothing?
Speaker 10 (25:50):
I mean, first of all, Philly to me is a
more talented team than Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 10 (25:56):
When you when you when you fall behind and you
spot them twenty four, I just I mean, what adjustments
can you really make unless they just start turning the
ball over or you know, they kind of self destruct,
and they did it. I'll say this, it was a
bad week for the NFL. All week. Luca Anthony Davis
outshadowed the week leading up to the super Bowl. That
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was the NBA had more conversation leading up to the game.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, we were in New Orleans. We talked about that.
There was a very little buzz about the super Bowl.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
The game was a was a just a letdown from
an entertainment standpoint. I thought the halftime showing left a
lot to be desired. In from of a bad week
for the Super Bowl overall, I mean for the NFL overall.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
They had a good run though of like four or
five last super Bowl has been competitive and good, so
you know you can't literally can't win them on now.
But this is what the Super Bowls used to be
like Shah, they used to always Dallas ridiculous, Tampa Bay
Raiders on.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
And so we see.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Denver get beat fifty five to ten in Super Bowl
stuff like.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
That in.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
That some kind of way in the league that's supposed
to be the elite. I mean, this is supposed to
be the ultimate sports league. We're gonna look back and
one guy was named MVP. Another game, the guy was
named First Team All prodiculous and another guy and another
guy won Offensive Player of the Year. Now, how in
the hill can that happen?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
It can't happen. What they what they did to Lamoar
was was terrible.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I mean, those guys, you can't change your vote that
that doesn't mean because to me, I called them cowards
because if Josh was your guy, he should have been
first First Team All Pro am.
Speaker 10 (27:35):
I right, right, right, absolutely, And I hope they don't
fall into this. Everybody gets a trophy, right, you know,
Like I just I just think it was a bad
look start to finish all Super Bowl week leading up
to the game. Only bright spot out of tip people
Jalen Hurts. I've been critical of him because I don't
think his performance at times this year has been another
elite level. But he blocked out all the noise and
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he saved this best for the game when it matter host.
So I was happy for Jalen. You think about this,
Out of all the guys we talk about when we
talk about top quarterbacks in the league, Jaylen's taking his
scene to two of the last free super Bowls and
one one.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
No, that's fair. We were talking about earlier.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
I said, you know, talent wise, I'm still not thinking
he's Lamar Josh or Patrick Mahons, but uh and maybe
even Joe Burrow. But he himself can look at all
the other guys the matchup five. I get you. He
can look at everybody else that ignored him. That's why
he just moved on whatever. He can look at everybody
else and be like, hey, I've been to two Super Bowls.
Lamar Josh, y'all have it. Joe, you ain't been to two.
You've been to one, and I've won mine.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Now, yeah, it ain't all super Bowls though, because.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I keep saying that, No, I mean, here you go
from the standpoint of here's Brady. You can't deny that
that Dann Marino is a great quarterback. Am I right, Sean,
without going to all I'm saying is body of work.
Speaker 10 (28:50):
The optimistic side looks like this. Though Detroit lost both coordinators,
San Francisco seems to be on the back end of
their run, like almost at the point in my be
over talking about trading Beebow, you know, just McCaffrey, all
of a sudden, canst I mean this could be a
legit run for Philly. I mean, the majority of that
roster comes back in time.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Man, they will fumbled away though from you know, the
Rams could have possibly won that thing too, So I
still think the NFC's got some a j Rams are.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Done because of isn't Stafford?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
So wait? The Rams are done the Lions and who
ain't done?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Rob, The Eagles ain't done. That's what he's trying to
make the point. I'm talking to your command everything. Andy
Reid ain't coaching. I'm ready for some changes, I mean, Sean,
I'm with you, man. It was a bad week.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
It was, though. And Luca, I mean that was seismic. Though.
This wasn't like eighty for cat.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
You know Karthi Towns oh has a good trade, but
eighty for Luca that was just massive, absolutely a crazy
when I shine.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
We appreciate you man, anything else you got going on?
Speaker 10 (29:52):
Hey man, I want to hope that everybody enjoys these
next couple of weeks until we get the March madness.
For a sports guy, this is really really a tough
stretch here. But uh, hopefully get in the basketball. Luca
makes his debut tonight. Hopefully he give us something to
be excited about.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Don't forget.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Pictures and catchers are showing up by Steve and he
is nobody quiet.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I mean that was extreme r quiet.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna just listen to off my baseball podcast
now getting lost.
Speaker 10 (30:21):
No, no, we're going. We're going from mess.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
All right, Sean, thank you so much, man, real Sean
can't give him a follow up X on the way listen,
we covered the full gam and.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
We talked about it, Jo, we might have to take two.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
All day, we've been talking about everything from the game
to the halftime, to Patrick Mahomes to Jalen Hurts uh
to all of a sudden breaking news. Andy Reid is
getting fired, according to Rock Parker.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Getting fired. I say she stepped down.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
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Speaker 2 (30:58):
Call time on the Couple. If you had to take
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Speaker 4 (31:23):
Is this a Magic City Monday? Man? Uh huh it is?
Meet me in the champagne room. Baby.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Let me tell you something? Yeah, I gotta remember something.
Game a kind over luded Chris, No, Man, Elijah still
want to fight you? That was the really you and Elijah.
Y'all almost had it out.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
First of all.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
If y'all gonna go that long in the group chat
and take us out of it, y'all just hit each
other up. A little couple here and there is cool.
Y'all had a full dissertations back and forth and all
that we don't want know that.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Kelvin gotta go to sleep. You gotta go to sleep job.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
He's gonna be up at three forty five in the morning,
still banging on that phone. If Louta would have did this,
Oh well, let me tell you about Acon.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I'm sure man, y'all relaxed. Keep just saying.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
If you're an artist and you have to start acting
because your music isn't good, says something.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
No.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
First of all, there's a lot of singers and rappers
and actors turn that, all right.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
It is the odd couple.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Robin Kelvin arguing with Alex on the Magic City Monday
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Time for Last Call eight seven, seven, nine nine on
Fox Last Call, last Hey, listen, we haven't really eaten today.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
We ain't have it all in us right now, all right?
Speaker 4 (32:55):
And not in called one time in New Wall you didn't.
You didn't. I can give you that want. Rober was
trying to put the jokes on us and everybody sick.
We're going to sick.
Speaker 9 (33:03):
Everybody said, come on, Robbie, dang, stop it. All right,
I guess you didn't get sick. Hey, that that's right.
You know what, I'm gonna roast you later. I got oneloaded.
I got one Steve in Orlando. You're the last call
on the odd couple.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
What's up, Steve.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Good evening, gentlemen, how are you great? Great?
Speaker 10 (33:21):
Great show.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
I tuned in a little late. I don't know if
you already talked about this, but I'm really going to
miss Kuby Brown in basketball. Yes, I'm originally from Detroit.
I know both y'all. I know one is from Detroit.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Area and I lived there for twenty years.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Absolutely, I grew up in the baseball family, but I
wanted to play in the NBA, and I learned more
in my young adult life and my adult life listening
to Hubie Brown commentate. I mean little stuff, little fine,
little fine tune things. If I would have known when
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I was younger, maybe I could.
Speaker 10 (34:02):
Have made it in the NBA. But I'm just going
to miss his expertise.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
You know I lost that when Joe Morgan passed.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, no, no, no, And UBI was around for
a long time, no doubt, Steve man I echoed those sentiments.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
I used to always say, I feel so intelligent just
listening to here we talking like it's a Bible of basketball.
He is just insane with it. So what an amazing
career was he ninety one years young? Heck of a
career stepping down? But ye who you Brown was one
of one. Huby was stunted out.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
A basketball analyst so long that when he first started
doing games, they used to have laces on the ball.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
I'm just saying, no, and you know, it's funny, this
might be the one time you might be right.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
You might be right.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
After this shoot, he probably started with, how did sixty
some years ago, how.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Did they how did they play with laces on the ball.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I still don't understand that, like with the ball, like
a how to bounds if you dribble on the laces?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Dig The only thing I could think of is like football,
where maybe if they thought if I got it perfectly
lined up, yeah, that they ain't going in. Did you
get the ball? And then feel for the laces and
then shoot it there. It took a little time. That's
why they took so long.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I don't know. They probably had less laces on their
shoes than they did on the ball. I do want
to say one other thing.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I know I really haven't mentioned it because the Super Bowl,
all the stuff we were doing. But me and a
group of black sports writers, we have started the Black
Sports Writers Hall of Fame at North Carolina A and
T down in Greensboro, North Carolina. Very excited. Our first
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induction class is coming up on April twelfth, and the
three people got voted in.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
You have to get seventy five percent of the vote.
William C. Road and Bill Road, longtime columnsts at the
New York Times. We saw him out there, didn't did?
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
We did.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Claire Smith was the first woman ever in a writer's
wing of the Baseball Hall of Fame. She worked at
the Hartford Current, the Philadelphia and Acquire New York Times.
And Mike Wilbon was a longtime columnist at the Washington Post.
He's also being inducted. So very excited about it. You
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got some greats.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yeah, you got straight up Jim Brown, and with that
you didn't get the Eli Mannings.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
The best of the best have made it, and so
we got a big, big If you're in that area
and you want to go, go check out the website
Black Sports Writers h o F dot com.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
C rob G, you always talking about he ain't black.
He got the Black Sports Writers.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Man.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Look at it, rob G. He said, it ain't even DEI.
He said, it's just legit sports writing.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Rob G.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I don't know how you think I'm not a black guy.
It's unbelievable. You don't watching F one movies that is.
Speaker 10 (36:48):
He got.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Morris Chestnut, Tate Diggs. The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon is coming up next show here, so I never
miss it. Did you hear that? Mhm