February 13, 2025 • 37 mins
Rob and Kelvin discuss the wild rumors linking Matthew Stafford to the New York Giants. Plus, former NFL scout and author Daniel Kelly swings by to discuss his draft evaluations for guys like Shedeur Sanders, Tim Tebow, Jayden Daniels and more! Finally, the Odd Couple Crew reminisces on closed down stores of their past in this week’s edition of Shop Talk.
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Daniel Kelly before you with.
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The smoke today you are jee boy, angry as a
whole new level with you.
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Dan Kelly's coming up.
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We got issues with him too, but we'll talk with
Dan Kelly in about twenty seven minutes.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
You won't believe what his evaluation of Shador Sanders is.
Oh God, that's a tease right now.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
We've seen some of the other ones and he's been
way off, you know, hey, Rob, he's been hit on
a few of them too, but he's also been way off.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
You could say the same thing about Rob Parker, Kevin Washington,
Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Smith.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I'm just saying, if you if you get it wrong,
you had to point out when you get it right too.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Right.
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Is this the Dan Kelly show or do you just
say it? It's got fun to know what's today.
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But remember, because I've been in the group chat with y'all, man,
I can't believe what he said about Kaylen Williams making
it to who and then Kaylen Williams west the bed
the last two months of the season, and then crickets.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Ain't nobody saying anything after that? What you got to
say to that? It ain't true? What do you mean crickets?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
How did you see his review or his critique of.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Of us from Florida?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Oh my god, that's Skip Bayless Road all the way
to Fox Tim Tim Tebow one is probably the worst
one ever looking at great and.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Skip talking about Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
No, but it was it was Dan Kelly, dan uh
Kelly's review of of of Tebo.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yes, don't got to look it up. Look it up.
It's like he said he was the one, He's the one.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Walking on water, turning water into wine, all that other stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I mean it was that's just a religious tie in
because he's a man of God. I know, Tim Tebow,
Tim Tebow. Yeah, I didn't even think about that. Tibo
was delivering babies in third world country? Was it still is? Yeah?
I think he still does that, like ESPN And then
he does.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
A commercial he saying he's in that commercial they got
it funny where he like threw the keys all bad.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I should have ran it like people can make fun
of themselves.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
And the best part though, is after the baby comes out,
he wraps them in a Chiefs three p T shirt.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So no, we were moving on.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
We started looking at the rundown to move on and
get it back into the show.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
All right.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh boy, Well, Matthew Stafford some reports that he might
randomly but some people say it's not too random, might
go to the Giants, the New York Football Giants, and
the conversation becomes around money for him. He's only guaranteed
four million dollars the forty nine million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So uh.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Even though the Rams had a nice surprising season, people
didn't expect them to, you know, finish where they didn't
get it to the postseason. They did that a couple
of years now running the conversation becomes, well, why would
you consider uh on to the Giants? And his wife,
who has a podcast, she came out and spoke about
it too, saying that her brother is now one of
the assistant coaches there and that that's something that the
(05:11):
family is considering. It doesn't make sense when we miss
it up here for weeks after weeks after week kind
of making fun of the Giants getting rid of Sa Kwan,
which ultimately bit them in. But like crazy him winning
a Super Bowl championship now and then considering Daniel Jones,
who they've kept around, ain't even on the team anymore.
But when I look at this from Matthew Stafford standpoint,
(05:32):
I look at the football say he's making a finance
and family decision if he were to leave over football,
because the football reasons say, you stay with the Rams.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
The Rams are the better team the Ramp.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
First of all, the Rams are you have a Super
Bowl ring with, you have continuity with your family's here.
Sean McVay a much better coach. So that's where the
football reasons why he would stay. But if they're not
paying him the way he feels that he needs to
be paid. Also considering what he's done for the franchise.
We won a Super Bowl ring, we were a player
two away from going to the NFC Championship Game this year.
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And if he's not getting the money that he's looking
around rob and seeing other guys get he's that obviously
will be something that make you make you go, hm,
reconsider some things. And then lastly, he's been with his
wife for years. They got they got together in college.
Obviously that means he knows his brother in law for years.
And I can see him because remember he was contemplating
maybe retiring. He's what thirty seven I believe it is
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thirty seven years old. That if he can ride out
the next couple of years with the family member, how
cool would that be. But that's the only thing I
could come up with is it has to be the
finances the family because it ain't football. There's no football
reason why he would leave the Rams and go to
the Giants makes no sense. She also she did mention
it by the way Cooper Cup getting traded, you know,
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as so reason why that he meant a lot to
the family, meant a lot to the team.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That was something that they traded all the time. I mean,
come on, stop with that. I'm tired of hearing.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Oh, they traded Cooper Cup.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
We can't live anymore, dude, everybody. Some of the greatest
players were played have been traded.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Okay, it's the end of the world, like my Cooper Cup,
all right, But Matthew Stafford's lucky to still be around.
He's thirty seven. He hasn't been that great. You know,
they had a chance to win that game against the Eagles.
What were they at the rob g when they started
first down at the twenty something, he had first down
and he went four downs and out.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
They got a chance to win that. But I don't know.
I mean, there's been a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Two years ago, you remember, they were trying to restructure
and give him less money. I don't think they're that
thrilled with Stafford and what he's done the last couple
of years, because this has been constant about how much
money he makes. They don't want to pay him apparently,
and it's about what you want to do.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Which is weird though. I mean, just because.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
They think that they could probably go I mean, he's Okay,
don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's like
we can't live without Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
No, I mean you can't live with mount Matthew Staffor
to me, if you're getting a better quarterback, but there
are any better cours, Like, of all the quarterbacks available,
none of them are better than matter saxty seven.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, I mean you know that's long in the two. Yeah,
it is for most quarterback. But you to me, especially
with what their expectations are, right, they've now they've been
to two super Bowls, one to one.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
This is kind of what they're competing for.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
They want to be one of those teams that are
constantly NFC Championship Game to a super Bowl that round
that range.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That's where they believe they can be.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
To your point, they were a drive away from being
in the NFC Championship Game, and a lot of that
you owe to Matthew Stafford. So it's not that I'm
saying he's twenty six and he's your guy for a decade.
It's more so, okay, if you let him go, if
he leaves, But what you don't get it, they're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Out there if he if he decides or whatever. I
really don't.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I don't think because if that was the case, you
wouldn't be hearing these conversations. They would satisfy the guy,
pay him whatever he wants to hold on to him.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I don't think he has the kind of leverage anymore,
you know, not at thirty seven years old.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But my whole thing is be careful, like, okay, I
get it. Who we Derek Carr possibly, No, I don't
think Sam Donald is their guy like Aaron Rodgers even
older with forty one. So it's not like there's this
great guy sitting now.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
But obviously they're not.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
They don't want to take They're not a team that
wants to lose, like we don't mind losing for two
three years and go get some young quarter They don't
want to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
They want to They won a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
They got some time and if they want to go
get a quarterback and develop them. I mean, nobody's counting
the rams of winning a Super Bowl. I don't hear
them in the mix of that. I mean even the
run when they beat who they beat the Minnesota and
and nobody expect them to win that game. But Ronald
McDonald had another stinker and they were able to win
(09:44):
that game. That's the only reason why they got to
that game against Philly. They gave themselves a chance, but
most people weren't picking them. I know that game was
supposed to be in La and wild up being in Arizona,
but I really I can see why they haven't.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
You just don't like Matthew Stafford. No, I'm telling that
what you call him stat Pafford whatever. No, He's been
good for them without a doubt. I mean he's been good.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He so good they then he wouldn't be having his
wife and people belly aching about the money and going
to the New York Football Giants. Is my point is
that this is about money. Go look, you can look
at the store. I said, said finance. His money had
to be They had to redo his contract. Remember he
said he won't coming to camp. So there's a money
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issue going on where they don't want to pay him
for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
That's what That's what there's the part, whatever reason. It's
not a reason as if he hasn't been good. He's
been good. He's not man. He ain't Josh Allen, Lamar,
Patrick Mahomes, He ain't that.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But I just think they don't want to pay an
older quarter.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Maybe, and they may look. They may say wet injured.
They may say we got what we wanted out of him.
You know what, three four years ago. They may say
the run we had to run, we already had Jared
Goff who got us there. We feel like he could
get us over the hump. We brought you in. We
got over the hump. We've had a couple of decent
seasons ever since. And they may feel like that. But
if I'm Matthew Stafford, I know I still have some
(11:08):
times and still have some talent. I want to still
play somewhere football wise. I'd rather be here than the Giants,
is what I'm saying, all.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Right eight seven eight seven seven nine nine six sixty
three sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I just the Giants. Why would they want Matthew Stafford.
I just they're so far away and it doesn't make
any sense. I know, you want some quarterback play the
only thing, but they need other They need so many things.
They need to develop a quarterback and they need to
go out and do something. Bringing Matthew Stafford in, you
know what, will remind me of of who they bring
in from the Rams.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Kurt Warner.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Do you remember Kurt Warner played with the Giants for
had a cup of coffee in the sweet role for them,
but he still has something to take. He goes to
the Cardinals and balls, but he but he bounced back
after that. He he won thirty I don't know how
old he was. Was he thirty seven or eight?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I can't remember that.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But and he should have won that Super Bowl if
it wasn't for that great throw and catch all time
one of the all time great catches to win a
Super Bowl is amazing.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
But yeah, Kurt Warner, he did bounce back and play
well for a few years with the Cardinals. But they
got neighbors, them having made the wide receiver, them having
neighbors over there with the Giants.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I think maybe they're like, we have somebody throw him
the ball.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
They got a couple of pieces over there offensively that
they Matthews too.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Allright, Listen, I ain't said I agree.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
That's why I said, Why would I want to leave
the Rams where we consistently have been making the postseason
and giving ourselves a shot.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't get that, but you know, family and finances.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
All right, would Matthew Stafford be making a mistake if
he forces his way to the New York Football Giants.
We'll continue that conversation next with you. It is the
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Speaker 1 (13:36):
Can we say that was propaganda going on in the
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just talking about mom is baking. She's got on pearls,
a nice dress. She's baking cookies and a sandwich when
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You are one of One's the irony of us sitting
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It was just a good women stay in the kitchen
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all right, Matthew Stafford, some you know things out there,
some inklings of possibly going to the giants. His brother
in law is a part of the organization now and
(14:45):
his wife mentioned on the podcast that, you know some
things not happy with Cooper cut being going on obviously
some financial things as well. Taking your calls A seven
seven ninety nine on Fox Who we got all right?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Chili chimm in Atlanta. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Hey up, gone, Yo, I'm good. How are you good?
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Man?
Speaker 9 (15:03):
You know, I retired from the bureaus, so now I'm
working for myself.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So now did you really congratulations? Model Top? How long
were you with the bureau?
Speaker 9 (15:11):
I was with him for eighteen years?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Wow?
Speaker 9 (15:16):
R Yeah. So now I'm doing independent work, so kind
of keep me busy. Now I'm willing to testify for you.
Before I would testify for the truth, now testify for
the money.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
There you go with that.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
But no, I was thinking, you know, with the division
the way it is, this is the perfect time for
the Rams to say because you have Rock Purty, you know,
he's still kind of improving, Kyler Murray is inconsistent. You know,
you never know what's going on with Seattle. So they
probably been saying we have a great defense. Now is
the time we're going to part ways while the division
(15:50):
is really not that great. So I mean, consider they
want the division is here with the subpart record, so
now that's the perfect time to see Matthews. I can
and get somebody else if you want it, because you
still can got a decent shide of winning division, So
why not send him packing now and go for something else.
It's a perfect time.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, I mean, I can see why you're saying that'd
be And that is a good point that he brought
up about them winning the division.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Did they barely have a five hundred record? I mean,
that's part of why bad.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
It was a bad and Chili that was saying when
we were talking about this earlier, Rob g and I
was saying, that's part of the reason why I don't
want to leave.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
The division is kind of open.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You know, you go to a NFC East with the
with the Commanders, and the Cowboys could be better than
the Giants and obviously the reigning champs, the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
All we got is that chi Chia, Chica, oh Chica.
Thank you from Charlotte. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Hey guys, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
No problem, I appreciate what you guys do.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
There used to be an old TV show, wasn't it,
Cheeka on the Man? No, I'm not that all he's ah.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Anyways, So, as an Eagle fan that's heading over to
Philadelphia for the parade tomorrow, what Congress, because I also
think that this makes no sense for them at all.
I personally do believe that Matt Stafford is still one
of those quarterbacks that is a difference maker, you know,
with josh Adam Lamar type just to throw over the football.
He's still up there. But age wise it doesn't make sense.
(17:22):
And they have so many other holes that it just
doesn't make.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Sense for them.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, I mean they need so much, that's true, but
I could see them one and a half somebody competent.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And even giving up on Cooper Cup, it says a
lot on where they're going, right.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
They just said he's older, he's.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Banged up, you know, And then hooking the Coup did
not help because he came in with a bang, like,
oh I thought Cooper Cupp was the best. Then they
had any hook and Nakula came in was like, don't
forget about your boy. Yeah, I just did. I could
see why they would want Matthew Stafford. Then being the
Giants is like a StopGate, you know what I mean, Somebody, Hey,
can we have two or three years with competent quarterbacking.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
We just haven't had that with Daniels.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
And and and really, I don't remember the last time
they had, you know, Eli, maybe a competent quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So I think for them a Hall of Fame quarterback
Eli Mann.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Not yet he ain't you know, he didn't get in right.
That's finally got one, right on, this sniper who won MVP.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Finally got one and a half.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Took you five man, You got your lips. Your tongue
is bleeding right now. You're biting so hard to I
don't want to see it. I don't want to say it. Hey,
I could give credit when credit is doing. You were not.
You were not American expressive. You'll be giving out No,
I give out credit. What are you trying? You will
be giving it. You give it. You see you give
half credit. Wow, you just did it. I gave you credit.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Half my credit for being all season. I will tell you,
Josh Allen going, I fought through the odds eleven years
in a row, all pro quarterback wins it. I fought
through the eyes, through the wire, through the fire to
tell you that he want.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I don't even know. You know.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
When we talk about the games and the Lions going
to the super Bowl and the Chiefs, I told them
all you you had a chief work and win a
Super Bowl.
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It is The Odd Couple Robin Kelvin on a TV
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Speaker 2 (19:29):
What's up, Daniel?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You doing Hey, I'm doing well.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Robin Calvin, how are you guys doing to right?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Doing great?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Appreciate it, you know, dealing with the rain out here
in LA which is obviously a big deal. But other
than that, we're doing good where there's a lot to
start with, Daniel. But Rob g was just coming to
us talking about, uh, Shawn Shawn Sanders. Why can't I
what's it saying? Why can I just Chador Sanders? Don't
know why from Brandon on his name Shador Sanders, who
(19:56):
many an ethnic name, and you weren't ready to say.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It at No, an ethnic name, you want to hurt.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Ethic in so long he's Many people have him going
top five, won the Stevens Top eight.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Where do you have him going?
Speaker 8 (20:14):
I have him on my twenty twenty five NFL draft
board as an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And you thought, and monster, you thought that me saying
something about Caitlyn Clark ruined the NBA All Star weekend.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Come on, Daniel, No, he didn't. He didn't hear the question.
Let me make it.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
He did messed up the name, So maybe no, let
me make that's on me. I must sud Sanders. Many
have him going top thought he thought, you said, Colonel.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Sanders, that's what it was about the chicken restaurant that
he said.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
It's not in his hes, not on his board, KFC. Okay,
never go down. You're that's on your boy, Shader Sanders.
Many have him going top five, maybe top ten, in
the worst as you have as a free agent.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
I do I do?
Speaker 8 (20:57):
This is uh, you know my past of these quarterbacks.
This is the most overrated NFL draft prospect that I've
personally seen since twenty twenty one Trey Lance. And I
had undraftable free agent grade on Trey Lance coming on.
I took a lot of heat on that. Of course,
the foy Niners made the splash move to get up,
(21:19):
you know, in the draft with the Dolphins, to get him,
trade the three ones, everything else, And to me, you know,
he wasn't the answer anymore than Shador Sanders is going
to be the answer in the NFL. I don't want
to take anything away, and my grading is through NFL
colored glasses. I think I've shared that before, and to me,
over grading a guy is a tremendous disservice to a
(21:40):
player because these grades frame expectations and expectations, you know,
they you know, they basically they're the trajectory of the
career of these guys, the expectations and so forth. So
not taking anything away from Shador Sanders, what he meant
to the Colorado football program, what he accomplished in college
of Jackson State and Colorado, the stats and everything else.
(22:01):
But this is a different ballgame now, this is going
into the NFL. And when I look at Shador Sanders,
I looked at him extensively. I mean I've evaluated every
single play in thirteen games this season, ten games last season,
three games at Jackson State, twenty six games total. And
when I look at him, there's this his undoing in
(22:22):
the NFL, if you will, is this. He has this
hesitancy that's ingrained in him, that is spray painted all
over his game film. What do I mean by that? Well,
it looks like he's afraid to make a mistake in
the pocket when he's there. What does a typical Sanders
play look like? When I watch my game film? He
(22:42):
drops back, you know, he looks, He looks, He looks.
He's looking for the largest, fafest, most guaranteed throwing window
he can read and find. They talked on Fox Sports
during the games. The entire system in Caldoradle is reactive.
It's based on what the defense does. He's reading the defense,
(23:03):
looking for the largest throwing window short at the intermediates
zero the nineteen yards, and if he can't find it initially,
he's scrambling around. He's moving around, which he does quite well.
But he's moving around until he can find it, until
that opens up down field. And if it doesn't open up,
he does one of two things. A he you know,
(23:23):
will run for whatever the defense will give him. He
didn't get his daddy's wheels. He's not an elite runner.
He'll just take what the defense can give him, or
he'll eat a sack. Because he's not throwing the ball away.
He's not hurting his stats. He's not going to hurt
his completion percentage when I watched him, and so you know,
that's the reason why you know Shdor Sanders has the
(23:43):
slowest time to throw per PFL. I did the numbers
and looked at him. Three seconds time to throw, which
is the slowest in this draft class. Also why you
know everyone says that's the offensive line, No, it's not.
Also why he's taking an FDS high ninety four sacks
in the last two seasons. So to me, this guy,
I mean, he's looking for zone. You know, reason zone,
(24:05):
He's looking for off man. Ideally, if he's faced with
a pressman coverage challenge, he's waiting to that receiver you know,
makes his break or as making his break, or a
little bit after until he knows he has to throw
him the throw it. That's not the NFL works.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Hey, Daniel, did you have a coronary when Jane Daniels
beat the Lions to go to the NFC to advance
in the NFC Championship Game, Because you had him as
a third rounder.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You missed on Daniels. I did Jane Daniels.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
I did, absolutely no. I did have a Cordner. I
was actually happy because I grew up a Washington fan,
so I was happy with that. I even ordered Jays
and Daniels Jersey even you know, he had a great
season this year. He looked like a different guy. He
looked like a different guy. I mean the LSU, he
had real happy feet. I think Cliff Kingsbury did a
really nice job settling him down. He looked a lot
(24:55):
more confident. He looked a lot calmer on film this
year in washing Rington versus a film in LSU. I'm
sitting in pre draft. He was at the best long
Bowl and the best runner of the draft. But I
really think he did a nice job settling down. So
I like what I see on them. Sorry is it's
still very concerned about the thin frame. I mean he
dodged three bullets basically with injury concerns there. But I
was very very happy. I want to see these guys succeed.
(25:17):
That's what a lot of people don't know is I'm
not hating on these guys. I'm actually trying to grade
them in a position to put some the best position
to succeed possible.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Would you say your Tim Tebow review was probably the
worst that you ever had. Tim Tebow, this is twenty ten.
Tell me if I'm not I'm misquoting you. You were
invited to the NFL Scotland Combine and you got handed
the mic, and you sat into the mic. Quote, Tim
Tebow will be a superstar in the National Football League.
(25:44):
A lot of scouts will miss on him because he's
not textbook, but he was thirty seven and three at
Florida and his intangibles are off the charts. Four other
guys sitting alongside of the panel killed you across the board.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Uh one. They took their shots.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
One guy said maybe he's got a chance as a
tight end or an h back, and your response basically
was no, Tim Tebow will still be a future Hall
of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
How could you have been so wrong about Tim Tebow?
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Yeah, well, there's a lot of factors who went into that.
I mean, I mean, obviously it didn't turn out that way,
and I take completing a total accountability for that, you
know statement, and that great. You know that this is
a process of learning you know, I'm always evolving as
an evaluator.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But what did you get wrong? I mean, what did
you really think?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I mean, like people in the NFL were like, he
can't complete a fifteen yard pass like consistently, like he
had trouble throwing the football.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Well, the Steelers would disagree with that. I mean, I
mean he did.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Even when he beat the Steelers, it was a ten
yard pass with nobody back to help defensively, and the
receiver just ran by. There was nobody there.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
The thing I look at if I could respond to
the TMT bow, I mean, he took over, He took
over all fairness. He took over a one and four
team that year, and he led them to the playoffs,
and he got them into the playoffs and and so forth,
and then you know, I, you know, I didn't work
out with John Elway and Denver and everything there, and
from that point forward, he never quite found a fit,
which happens to a lot of these guys, unfortunately, because
(27:15):
if you're not the guy that you know, you're not
drafted with, you know, you have less and less of
a chance to fit somewhere else down the road. But yeah,
I take no excuses. I take complete ownership of that.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, I'm did.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
We were saying, somebody's going to the Hall of Fame.
That's the difference between being drafted in the first rue, right,
and that's that's a big one. Now, that's a big one.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
That's fair, That's very fair.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That's a big one.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Our guest right now, Daniel Kelly, former NFL scout with
the Jets, also an author as well. I want to
go to somebody who all the scouts, uh Daniel, were
saying is the greatest prospect since really you know, they
were going as far back as John Elway. There are
so many people who are still optimistic after his rookie campaign.
Talking about Caleb Williams, what do you make of his
(27:57):
first year coming out of college? Where did you have
him coming out of See, I had him telling.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Me out as a fourth round grade. I put a
one hundred percent bust right on him. There's only two
quarterbacks I've ever put a one hundred percent bus right
on Caleb Williams and Will Levis, who had a seventh
ground picktown telling out of Kentucky. And so to me,
it's again, this is just like Shadora Sanders. This is
you know, these guys the Caleb Williams of Shahar Sanders.
Caleb was able to a lot of times. I mean
(28:24):
he was two and seven. He can stop twenty five
teams at USC was able to run around manipulate using
that gifted you know, god given ability he has athletically
to manipulate you know, low lower level college defense of
the defensive back. So when he came into the NFL,
the NFL is based, you know, it's built on timing routes.
So I knew he would struggle because he doesn't have
the instincts. He doesn't have the throwing instinct of the
(28:45):
Patrick Mahomes who doesn't have to rely on his footwork.
He moves around. But it was just really a tough
season for him. Where he found is, you know, he's
most comfortable throwing you know, the short you know range.
I think the thirty third team put out something on
Twitter acts that said he ranked like five hundred and
twentieth out a five hundred and thirty with like a
thirty five percent completion rate on passes over ten yards.
(29:06):
So he had a really tough year of you know,
sixty eight sacks and you know, most sack quarterback in
the NFL, and uh, you know was everything I thought
it was gonna be.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
It wasn't a bus year. You cannot say he had
a bust as a year. You can't say that.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
I think he's a bust overall.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
No, Wow, that wasn't a bus. He broke some records,
rookie records, he did. You cannot say he was a bus.
Come on, Daniel, be fair.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
I am, I am being fair.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
He was a bus last year you lost that. I
don't get that one.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You remember they had they had Washington beat and they
gave up. He watched him down, scored a touchdown, and
then they gave up the Hail Mary to lose that game.
There were a couple of games that he lost with
a kick Bill Gold. It's like three games that he
should have won where he got his team down to
score and then they.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Gave it up.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Hey, I hear exactly what. Hey, I know what happened
in that game too. I mean, I hear what you're saying.
But to me, all he was only twenty four was
a glorified game manager just to play dinkin gun football
and he couldn't he couldn't pass down.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Tom Brady won three Super bowls doing that. Man, No,
they are.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
Five and twelve because the number twenty eighth ranks UBR
in the league, which is near the bottom. And I
don't see it coming up.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
And I don't see Ben Johnson, the really great offensive
coordinator going to somebody that feels like as a bus.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
That's my thing. I think he looks at him and says,
I got something. Something that we got. We got a
club about.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
To get busy there, but we The best part about
it is we all get to wait and see Daniel Kelly.
Thank you so much. We appreciate you. Thanks for taking it,
you know in the first round. Mock on Twitter. Make
sure you give him a follow.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Robin Right, appreciate you, man, appreciate it. All right, we
have a shop talk on deck. Get ready to talk
a little smack as well. Have some fun with that.
You need eat, you do need to eat. Let me guess.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I have two guesses, and I'm probably gonna be right
with one of them. Lunch meat.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
We did that already, we did I missed that, okay,
bake checking in that's that's what so just sal it okay.
Then the third guest, I didn't know any three. All right,
shop talk and uh get to that just a bit.
This the ot Couple. What are you about to say, Alex?
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Does it sound really a sound? If it's just lettuce
and sauce.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You got to crawl before you walk, Alex, You gotta
crawl before you walk home.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
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Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I didn't know this one Rob, one day at a time.
Bonnie Franklin was the mother in this. Okay, Yeah, it
wasn't that good those ones. Okay, we're on CBS. I've
never really gotten to this show.
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Speaker 3 (32:02):
Ain't nobody ex being a bomb shop?
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You know that about the three rep whatever what you
won't to Parker not everything.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
He's Louis is shot talk say what we talk about?
Something happened outside of the world of sports. This week's
topic comes to us from the world of food. We're
awl on die so this kind of made sense, sorry
to say, for all you breakfast lovers out there, Denny's
will be closing as much as ninety restaurants. Are you
(32:37):
serious in the year of twenty twenty five according to
their CFO.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Would you call that a grand slam or not? I
would not call that a grant. I guess they struck out.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
That's a good shoke though, but it got me thinking,
Rob Calvin, Monsey, Alex, what is one store, restaurant what
have you that either has closed, doesn't exist anymore that
you miss or similar to as Red Lobster.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
They're clearly going to be closing soon and you're not
happy about it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
So wait a minute. A restaurant that is going to
be an in store and you know whatever Toys Rush
is out of studio, radio Shack is out.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
That's a good one. Kmrt's good. That's another go one
Hollywood video.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I got well, so mons Blockbuster was gonna be mine.
What an experience on a Friday going whether you were
the kid and your parents ably want to go get
a movie, and then you knew you could get a
video game, or you could get that you know, kid
movie that you've been looking forward to, or as you
got older.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Damn saying what you want to do? Now you want
to go get a movie? Oh yeah, that's good, get
a movie. I used to wait a line that Blockbuster
to get a movie. That was real deal.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It was so fun one, you know what, It's almost
like Amazon now, like even though you're spending your own money,
you don't.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Care like this is fun.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Like Blockbuster, you were spending your own money, but you
felt like it was like they're giving you free movies.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Absolutely, and then when you want to just get like
a dirty one, you have to write it down the number.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yes, that's right, that's right. Well here I.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Am talking about going with you as a kid with
your family going with you. I had a glizzy Rob
did you go in there with a trench coat on
a trench coat and a top?
Speaker 8 (34:13):
Hell?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yes, sir, you can.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Go to the back and they say your name like
Rob your back goodness, see you.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
What do you want? Rob, Hey, your special order is in.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
I missed when I could just go to the movie
theaters and watch it.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Are from New York, so Manti and Hollywood video minds
bl buss bust their video What about you, Alex rob
or Rob something that's gone?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
You got radio shag.
Speaker 10 (34:42):
I guess hold it down for the gamers game Crazy.
That was like a really dope spot back in the
day that was attached to Blockbuster and so it was
cool about is you could go in there. And the
reason why I know they got shut down is they
never pushed sales. You could stand there flours in video
game and it was like you like, never mind how
to buy a teenage life dude.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Looking back on it, we can see why they closed.
Speaker 10 (34:59):
I know why they should. I could stand there for
hours and play games for free. It was like it's
an amazing time because you really don't think about it,
like how money really does deviate our concept of appreciation
for things, and when you have nothing you get everything.
It just seems like the world. You know, I miss them. Yeah,
that was a that era.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I think any kid of your life that twelve thirteen,
fort formidable years it's so great.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
What about you, Rope? I was did you say one
the other rock Rock we closed down with Sambos? Did
you ever hear about that? It was a restaurant in Florida, seriously,
like a like a Denny's kind of place that I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Think we had. That said, I was glad to know.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah that was that's yeah, that's that's a little wild.
But I would say they protest, yeah, and they close
it down. That's a little while.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
But I would say, Chess King, do you guys know
what I have? You never heard of it? That was
a clothing store in every mall in America.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
No, no, every mall in America, Men's clothes. Rob.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I was nervous. It was a men's clothing store called
Chess King.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Never heard of never heard of something else.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
It was just's is good?
Speaker 8 (36:00):
All right?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Rob? Rob? G have you gone? Did you say I've
never well, I've never heard of that one.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
But mine doesn't make any sense because Montgomery Wards was
not a great store, like it was anything different, right,
But I have a core memory when I was really little,
we went with my mom and my brother and he's.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Like, hey, we got to go. That's like California.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Mom's calling us, let's go, and I said, I don't
even know you, mister, leave me alone. And there was
another woman like ready to smack my brother, thinking I
was getting abducted, right, And I thought that was the
funniest thing.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
And I'm sitting here gelling me. Later later I gotta.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
Say, yeah, but at the time, that was the funniest
thing that ever happened to me.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I don't know who you are.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Say about instant kara. Guys, did your daughter do that
to you?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Oh? Yeah, you said that to everybody's like, sir, so
do you know the child do that?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
So?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Wait, no you sir? Is that your child?
Speaker 10 (36:49):
Like I don't want to go with you, yeah, sir.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Now the guy who beats his kid apparently no, no,
he ain't lying.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
No.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Kids will have people thinking some crazy wild stuff about you,
that is for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
All right.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
We got Montgomery Wards Chess said blockbuster video for me,
Hollywood video for Moncie.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Rinky says, hometown but fe from the back nice?
Speaker 4 (37:10):
But yeah, I mean yeah, I think they're if there's
still one later around somewhere.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I went once and didn't pay there.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
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I have a question for him. If you have a
public cast and it says four hundred and twenty three
on the bottom, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Uh this episode? Right? That is that? How many downloads?
Or what is that.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Numbers say something coming up in twenty eight minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Daniel Kelly before you with.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
The smoke today you are jee boy, angry as a
whole new level with you.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Maybe you need a card. I need to make cake,
Rob G. Maybe get this man a slice of cheesecake.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Pancake, G.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Rob G? Is that a pancake?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Rob Jesus, I know that facts mile when I see it,
Rob G. That's almost Wait. I'm on my way to Hawaii.
I'm on my way to Hawaii, Ima, Hawaii. I know
that smile.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I need a vacation. I think that's problem that you
could use one instead of yell.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I don't never miss a day. I never missed one.
You know, I never missed a day since nineteen eighty seven.
You get to you.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You're a cool that's what you know. I'm out all right.
Dan Kelly's coming up.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
We got issues with him too, but we'll talk with
Dan Kelly in about twenty seven minutes.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
You won't believe what his evaluation of Shador Sanders is.
Oh God, that's a tease right now.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
We've seen some of the other ones and he's been
way off, you know, hey, Rob, he's been hit on
a few of them too, but he's also been way off.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
You could say the same thing about Rob Parker, Kevin Washington,
Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Smith.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I'm just saying, if you if you get it wrong,
you had to point out when you get it right too.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Is this the Dan Kelly show or do you just
say it? It's got fun to know what's today.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
But remember, because I've been in the group chat with y'all, man,
I can't believe what he said about Kaylen Williams making
it to who and then Kaylen Williams west the bed
the last two months of the season, and then crickets.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Ain't nobody saying anything after that? What you got to
say to that? It ain't true? What do you mean crickets?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
How did you see his review or his critique of.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Of us from Florida?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Oh my god, that's Skip Bayless Road all the way
to Fox Tim Tim Tebow one is probably the worst
one ever looking at great and.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Skip talking about Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
No, but it was it was Dan Kelly, dan uh
Kelly's review of of of Tebo.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yes, don't got to look it up. Look it up.
It's like he said he was the one, He's the one.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Walking on water, turning water into wine, all that other stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I mean it was that's just a religious tie in
because he's a man of God. I know, Tim Tebow,
Tim Tebow. Yeah, I didn't even think about that. Tibo
was delivering babies in third world country? Was it still is? Yeah?
I think he still does that, like ESPN And then
he does.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
A commercial he saying he's in that commercial they got
it funny where he like threw the keys all bad.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I should have ran it like people can make fun
of themselves.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
And the best part though, is after the baby comes out,
he wraps them in a Chiefs three p T shirt.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So no, we were moving on.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
We started looking at the rundown to move on and
get it back into the show.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
All right.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh boy, Well, Matthew Stafford some reports that he might
randomly but some people say it's not too random, might
go to the Giants, the New York Football Giants, and
the conversation becomes around money for him. He's only guaranteed
four million dollars the forty nine million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So uh.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Even though the Rams had a nice surprising season, people
didn't expect them to, you know, finish where they didn't
get it to the postseason. They did that a couple
of years now running the conversation becomes, well, why would
you consider uh on to the Giants? And his wife,
who has a podcast, she came out and spoke about
it too, saying that her brother is now one of
the assistant coaches there and that that's something that the
(05:11):
family is considering. It doesn't make sense when we miss
it up here for weeks after weeks after week kind
of making fun of the Giants getting rid of Sa Kwan,
which ultimately bit them in. But like crazy him winning
a Super Bowl championship now and then considering Daniel Jones,
who they've kept around, ain't even on the team anymore.
But when I look at this from Matthew Stafford standpoint,
(05:32):
I look at the football say he's making a finance
and family decision if he were to leave over football,
because the football reasons say, you stay with the Rams.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
The Rams are the better team the Ramp.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
First of all, the Rams are you have a Super
Bowl ring with, you have continuity with your family's here.
Sean McVay a much better coach. So that's where the
football reasons why he would stay. But if they're not
paying him the way he feels that he needs to
be paid. Also considering what he's done for the franchise.
We won a Super Bowl ring, we were a player
two away from going to the NFC Championship Game this year.
(06:05):
And if he's not getting the money that he's looking
around rob and seeing other guys get he's that obviously
will be something that make you make you go, hm,
reconsider some things. And then lastly, he's been with his
wife for years. They got they got together in college.
Obviously that means he knows his brother in law for years.
And I can see him because remember he was contemplating
maybe retiring. He's what thirty seven I believe it is
(06:25):
thirty seven years old. That if he can ride out
the next couple of years with the family member, how
cool would that be. But that's the only thing I
could come up with is it has to be the
finances the family because it ain't football. There's no football
reason why he would leave the Rams and go to
the Giants makes no sense. She also she did mention
it by the way Cooper Cup getting traded, you know,
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as so reason why that he meant a lot to
the family, meant a lot to the team.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That was something that they traded all the time. I mean,
come on, stop with that. I'm tired of hearing.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Oh, they traded Cooper Cup.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
We can't live anymore, dude, everybody. Some of the greatest
players were played have been traded.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Okay, it's the end of the world, like my Cooper Cup,
all right, But Matthew Stafford's lucky to still be around.
He's thirty seven. He hasn't been that great. You know,
they had a chance to win that game against the Eagles.
What were they at the rob g when they started
first down at the twenty something, he had first down
and he went four downs and out.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
They got a chance to win that. But I don't know.
I mean, there's been a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Two years ago, you remember, they were trying to restructure
and give him less money. I don't think they're that
thrilled with Stafford and what he's done the last couple
of years, because this has been constant about how much
money he makes. They don't want to pay him apparently,
and it's about what you want to do.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Which is weird though. I mean, just because.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
They think that they could probably go I mean, he's Okay,
don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's like
we can't live without Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
No, I mean you can't live with mount Matthew Staffor
to me, if you're getting a better quarterback, but there
are any better cours, Like, of all the quarterbacks available,
none of them are better than matter saxty seven.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, I mean you know that's long in the two. Yeah,
it is for most quarterback. But you to me, especially
with what their expectations are, right, they've now they've been
to two super Bowls, one to one.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
This is kind of what they're competing for.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
They want to be one of those teams that are
constantly NFC Championship Game to a super Bowl that round
that range.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That's where they believe they can be.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
To your point, they were a drive away from being
in the NFC Championship Game, and a lot of that
you owe to Matthew Stafford. So it's not that I'm
saying he's twenty six and he's your guy for a decade.
It's more so, okay, if you let him go, if
he leaves, But what you don't get it, they're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Out there if he if he decides or whatever. I
really don't.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I don't think because if that was the case, you
wouldn't be hearing these conversations. They would satisfy the guy,
pay him whatever he wants to hold on to him.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I don't think he has the kind of leverage anymore,
you know, not at thirty seven years old.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But my whole thing is be careful, like, okay, I
get it. Who we Derek Carr possibly, No, I don't
think Sam Donald is their guy like Aaron Rodgers even
older with forty one. So it's not like there's this
great guy sitting now.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
But obviously they're not.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
They don't want to take They're not a team that
wants to lose, like we don't mind losing for two
three years and go get some young quarter They don't
want to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
They want to They won a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
They got some time and if they want to go
get a quarterback and develop them. I mean, nobody's counting
the rams of winning a Super Bowl. I don't hear
them in the mix of that. I mean even the
run when they beat who they beat the Minnesota and
and nobody expect them to win that game. But Ronald
McDonald had another stinker and they were able to win
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that game. That's the only reason why they got to
that game against Philly. They gave themselves a chance, but
most people weren't picking them. I know that game was
supposed to be in La and wild up being in Arizona,
but I really I can see why they haven't.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
You just don't like Matthew Stafford. No, I'm telling that
what you call him stat Pafford whatever. No, He's been
good for them without a doubt. I mean he's been good.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He so good they then he wouldn't be having his
wife and people belly aching about the money and going
to the New York Football Giants. Is my point is
that this is about money. Go look, you can look
at the store. I said, said finance. His money had
to be They had to redo his contract. Remember he
said he won't coming to camp. So there's a money
(10:29):
issue going on where they don't want to pay him
for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
That's what That's what there's the part, whatever reason. It's
not a reason as if he hasn't been good. He's
been good. He's not man. He ain't Josh Allen, Lamar,
Patrick Mahomes, He ain't that.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But I just think they don't want to pay an
older quarter.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Maybe, and they may look. They may say wet injured.
They may say we got what we wanted out of him.
You know what, three four years ago. They may say
the run we had to run, we already had Jared
Goff who got us there. We feel like he could
get us over the hump. We brought you in. We
got over the hump. We've had a couple of decent
seasons ever since. And they may feel like that. But
if I'm Matthew Stafford, I know I still have some
(11:08):
times and still have some talent. I want to still
play somewhere football wise. I'd rather be here than the Giants,
is what I'm saying, all.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Right eight seven eight seven seven nine nine six sixty
three sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I just the Giants. Why would they want Matthew Stafford.
I just they're so far away and it doesn't make
any sense. I know, you want some quarterback play the
only thing, but they need other They need so many things.
They need to develop a quarterback and they need to
go out and do something. Bringing Matthew Stafford in, you
know what, will remind me of of who they bring
in from the Rams.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Kurt Warner.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Do you remember Kurt Warner played with the Giants for
had a cup of coffee in the sweet role for them,
but he still has something to take. He goes to
the Cardinals and balls, but he but he bounced back
after that. He he won thirty I don't know how
old he was. Was he thirty seven or eight?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I can't remember that.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But and he should have won that Super Bowl if
it wasn't for that great throw and catch all time
one of the all time great catches to win a
Super Bowl is amazing.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
But yeah, Kurt Warner, he did bounce back and play
well for a few years with the Cardinals. But they
got neighbors, them having made the wide receiver, them having
neighbors over there with the Giants.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I think maybe they're like, we have somebody throw him
the ball.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
They got a couple of pieces over there offensively that
they Matthews too.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Allright, Listen, I ain't said I agree.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
That's why I said, Why would I want to leave
the Rams where we consistently have been making the postseason
and giving ourselves a shot.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't get that, but you know, family and finances.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
All right, would Matthew Stafford be making a mistake if
he forces his way to the New York Football Giants.
We'll continue that conversation next with you. It is the
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Speaker 1 (13:36):
Can we say that was propaganda going on in the
fifties and sixties with the separate bed me Dad. I'm
just talking about mom is baking. She's got on pearls,
a nice dress. She's baking cookies and a sandwich when
its from the briefcase and that comes home, he has dinner.
He has a dinner jacket on and a tie.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
All that. No, No, it's my god, you are literally
one of Ron Parker is one of one.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You are one of One's the irony of us sitting
here talking about old TV shows and probablygand it for
your phone ring and it will be an old TV show.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It's just, uh, you one of one. God bless you
all right without you? Yes, but I'm just saying propaganda.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It was just a good women stay in the kitchen
and be with she has but she's dressed up with pearls,
you know what I mean on a Tuesday making a
sandwich for the beaver. Yeah, different air, different whole, different air,
all right, Matthew Stafford, some you know things out there,
some inklings of possibly going to the giants. His brother
in law is a part of the organization now and
(14:45):
his wife mentioned on the podcast that, you know some
things not happy with Cooper cut being going on obviously
some financial things as well. Taking your calls A seven
seven ninety nine on Fox Who we got all right?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Chili chimm in Atlanta. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Hey up, gone, Yo, I'm good. How are you good?
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Man?
Speaker 9 (15:03):
You know, I retired from the bureaus, so now I'm
working for myself.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So now did you really congratulations? Model Top? How long
were you with the bureau?
Speaker 9 (15:11):
I was with him for eighteen years?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Wow?
Speaker 9 (15:16):
R Yeah. So now I'm doing independent work, so kind
of keep me busy. Now I'm willing to testify for you.
Before I would testify for the truth, now testify for
the money.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
There you go with that.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
But no, I was thinking, you know, with the division
the way it is, this is the perfect time for
the Rams to say because you have Rock Purty, you know,
he's still kind of improving, Kyler Murray is inconsistent. You know,
you never know what's going on with Seattle. So they
probably been saying we have a great defense. Now is
the time we're going to part ways while the division
(15:50):
is really not that great. So I mean, consider they
want the division is here with the subpart record, so
now that's the perfect time to see Matthews. I can
and get somebody else if you want it, because you
still can got a decent shide of winning division, So
why not send him packing now and go for something else.
It's a perfect time.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, I mean, I can see why you're saying that'd
be And that is a good point that he brought
up about them winning the division.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Did they barely have a five hundred record? I mean,
that's part of why bad.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
It was a bad and Chili that was saying when
we were talking about this earlier, Rob g and I
was saying, that's part of the reason why I don't
want to leave.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
The division is kind of open.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You know, you go to a NFC East with the
with the Commanders, and the Cowboys could be better than
the Giants and obviously the reigning champs, the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
All we got is that chi Chia, Chica, oh Chica.
Thank you from Charlotte. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Hey guys, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
No problem, I appreciate what you guys do.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
There used to be an old TV show, wasn't it,
Cheeka on the Man? No, I'm not that all he's ah.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Anyways, So, as an Eagle fan that's heading over to
Philadelphia for the parade tomorrow, what Congress, because I also
think that this makes no sense for them at all.
I personally do believe that Matt Stafford is still one
of those quarterbacks that is a difference maker, you know,
with josh Adam Lamar type just to throw over the football.
He's still up there. But age wise it doesn't make sense.
(17:22):
And they have so many other holes that it just
doesn't make.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Sense for them.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, I mean they need so much, that's true, but
I could see them one and a half somebody competent.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And even giving up on Cooper Cup, it says a
lot on where they're going, right.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
They just said he's older, he's.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Banged up, you know, And then hooking the Coup did
not help because he came in with a bang, like,
oh I thought Cooper Cupp was the best. Then they
had any hook and Nakula came in was like, don't
forget about your boy. Yeah, I just did. I could
see why they would want Matthew Stafford. Then being the
Giants is like a StopGate, you know what I mean, Somebody, Hey,
can we have two or three years with competent quarterbacking.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
We just haven't had that with Daniels.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
And and and really, I don't remember the last time
they had, you know, Eli, maybe a competent quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So I think for them a Hall of Fame quarterback
Eli Mann.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Not yet he ain't you know, he didn't get in right.
That's finally got one, right on, this sniper who won MVP.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Finally got one and a half.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Took you five man, You got your lips. Your tongue
is bleeding right now. You're biting so hard to I
don't want to see it. I don't want to say it. Hey,
I could give credit when credit is doing. You were not.
You were not American expressive. You'll be giving out No,
I give out credit. What are you trying? You will
be giving it. You give it. You see you give
half credit. Wow, you just did it. I gave you credit.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Half my credit for being all season. I will tell you,
Josh Allen going, I fought through the odds eleven years
in a row, all pro quarterback wins it. I fought
through the eyes, through the wire, through the fire to
tell you that he want.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I don't even know. You know.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
When we talk about the games and the Lions going
to the super Bowl and the Chiefs, I told them
all you you had a chief work and win a
Super Bowl.
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former NFL scout with the Jets and also an author
First Round Mott go ahead and find him on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
What's up, Daniel?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You doing Hey, I'm doing well.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Robin Calvin, how are you guys doing to right?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Doing great?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Appreciate it, you know, dealing with the rain out here
in LA which is obviously a big deal. But other
than that, we're doing good where there's a lot to
start with, Daniel. But Rob g was just coming to
us talking about, uh, Shawn Shawn Sanders. Why can't I
what's it saying? Why can I just Chador Sanders? Don't
know why from Brandon on his name Shador Sanders, who
(19:56):
many an ethnic name, and you weren't ready to say.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It at No, an ethnic name, you want to hurt.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Ethic in so long he's Many people have him going
top five, won the Stevens Top eight.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Where do you have him going?
Speaker 8 (20:14):
I have him on my twenty twenty five NFL draft
board as an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And you thought, and monster, you thought that me saying
something about Caitlyn Clark ruined the NBA All Star weekend.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Come on, Daniel, No, he didn't. He didn't hear the question.
Let me make it.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
He did messed up the name, So maybe no, let
me make that's on me. I must sud Sanders. Many
have him going top thought he thought, you said, Colonel.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Sanders, that's what it was about the chicken restaurant that
he said.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
It's not in his hes, not on his board, KFC. Okay,
never go down. You're that's on your boy, Shader Sanders.
Many have him going top five, maybe top ten, in
the worst as you have as a free agent.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
I do I do?
Speaker 8 (20:57):
This is uh, you know my past of these quarterbacks.
This is the most overrated NFL draft prospect that I've
personally seen since twenty twenty one Trey Lance. And I
had undraftable free agent grade on Trey Lance coming on.
I took a lot of heat on that. Of course,
the foy Niners made the splash move to get up,
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you know, in the draft with the Dolphins, to get him,
trade the three ones, everything else, And to me, you know,
he wasn't the answer anymore than Shador Sanders is going
to be the answer in the NFL. I don't want
to take anything away, and my grading is through NFL
colored glasses. I think I've shared that before, and to me,
over grading a guy is a tremendous disservice to a
(21:40):
player because these grades frame expectations and expectations, you know,
they you know, they basically they're the trajectory of the
career of these guys, the expectations and so forth. So
not taking anything away from Shador Sanders, what he meant
to the Colorado football program, what he accomplished in college
of Jackson State and Colorado, the stats and everything else.
(22:01):
But this is a different ballgame now, this is going
into the NFL. And when I look at Shador Sanders,
I looked at him extensively. I mean I've evaluated every
single play in thirteen games this season, ten games last season,
three games at Jackson State, twenty six games total. And
when I look at him, there's this his undoing in
(22:22):
the NFL, if you will, is this. He has this
hesitancy that's ingrained in him, that is spray painted all
over his game film. What do I mean by that? Well,
it looks like he's afraid to make a mistake in
the pocket when he's there. What does a typical Sanders
play look like? When I watch my game film? He
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drops back, you know, he looks, He looks, He looks.
He's looking for the largest, fafest, most guaranteed throwing window
he can read and find. They talked on Fox Sports
during the games. The entire system in Caldoradle is reactive.
It's based on what the defense does. He's reading the defense,
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looking for the largest throwing window short at the intermediates
zero the nineteen yards, and if he can't find it initially,
he's scrambling around. He's moving around, which he does quite well.
But he's moving around until he can find it, until
that opens up down field. And if it doesn't open up,
he does one of two things. A he you know,
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will run for whatever the defense will give him. He
didn't get his daddy's wheels. He's not an elite runner.
He'll just take what the defense can give him, or
he'll eat a sack. Because he's not throwing the ball away.
He's not hurting his stats. He's not going to hurt
his completion percentage when I watched him, and so you know,
that's the reason why you know Shdor Sanders has the
(23:43):
slowest time to throw per PFL. I did the numbers
and looked at him. Three seconds time to throw, which
is the slowest in this draft class. Also why you
know everyone says that's the offensive line, No, it's not.
Also why he's taking an FDS high ninety four sacks
in the last two seasons. So to me, this guy,
I mean, he's looking for zone. You know, reason zone,
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He's looking for off man. Ideally, if he's faced with
a pressman coverage challenge, he's waiting to that receiver you know,
makes his break or as making his break, or a
little bit after until he knows he has to throw
him the throw it. That's not the NFL works.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Hey, Daniel, did you have a coronary when Jane Daniels
beat the Lions to go to the NFC to advance
in the NFC Championship Game, Because you had him as
a third rounder.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You missed on Daniels. I did Jane Daniels.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
I did, absolutely no. I did have a Cordner. I
was actually happy because I grew up a Washington fan,
so I was happy with that. I even ordered Jays
and Daniels Jersey even you know, he had a great
season this year. He looked like a different guy. He
looked like a different guy. I mean the LSU, he
had real happy feet. I think Cliff Kingsbury did a
really nice job settling him down. He looked a lot
(24:55):
more confident. He looked a lot calmer on film this
year in washing Rington versus a film in LSU. I'm
sitting in pre draft. He was at the best long
Bowl and the best runner of the draft. But I
really think he did a nice job settling down. So
I like what I see on them. Sorry is it's
still very concerned about the thin frame. I mean he
dodged three bullets basically with injury concerns there. But I
was very very happy. I want to see these guys succeed.
(25:17):
That's what a lot of people don't know is I'm
not hating on these guys. I'm actually trying to grade
them in a position to put some the best position
to succeed possible.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Would you say your Tim Tebow review was probably the
worst that you ever had. Tim Tebow, this is twenty ten.
Tell me if I'm not I'm misquoting you. You were
invited to the NFL Scotland Combine and you got handed
the mic, and you sat into the mic. Quote, Tim
Tebow will be a superstar in the National Football League.
(25:44):
A lot of scouts will miss on him because he's
not textbook, but he was thirty seven and three at
Florida and his intangibles are off the charts. Four other
guys sitting alongside of the panel killed you across the board.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Uh one. They took their shots.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
One guy said maybe he's got a chance as a
tight end or an h back, and your response basically
was no, Tim Tebow will still be a future Hall
of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
How could you have been so wrong about Tim Tebow?
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Yeah, well, there's a lot of factors who went into that.
I mean, I mean, obviously it didn't turn out that way,
and I take completing a total accountability for that, you
know statement, and that great. You know that this is
a process of learning you know, I'm always evolving as
an evaluator.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But what did you get wrong? I mean, what did
you really think?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I mean, like people in the NFL were like, he
can't complete a fifteen yard pass like consistently, like he
had trouble throwing the football.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Well, the Steelers would disagree with that. I mean, I
mean he did.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Even when he beat the Steelers, it was a ten
yard pass with nobody back to help defensively, and the
receiver just ran by. There was nobody there.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
The thing I look at if I could respond to
the TMT bow, I mean, he took over, He took
over all fairness. He took over a one and four
team that year, and he led them to the playoffs,
and he got them into the playoffs and and so forth,
and then you know, I, you know, I didn't work
out with John Elway and Denver and everything there, and
from that point forward, he never quite found a fit,
which happens to a lot of these guys, unfortunately, because
(27:15):
if you're not the guy that you know, you're not
drafted with, you know, you have less and less of
a chance to fit somewhere else down the road. But yeah,
I take no excuses. I take complete ownership of that.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, I'm did.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
We were saying, somebody's going to the Hall of Fame.
That's the difference between being drafted in the first rue, right,
and that's that's a big one. Now, that's a big one.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
That's fair, That's very fair.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That's a big one.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Our guest right now, Daniel Kelly, former NFL scout with
the Jets, also an author as well. I want to
go to somebody who all the scouts, uh Daniel, were
saying is the greatest prospect since really you know, they
were going as far back as John Elway. There are
so many people who are still optimistic after his rookie campaign.
Talking about Caleb Williams, what do you make of his
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first year coming out of college? Where did you have
him coming out of See, I had him telling.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Me out as a fourth round grade. I put a
one hundred percent bust right on him. There's only two
quarterbacks I've ever put a one hundred percent bus right
on Caleb Williams and Will Levis, who had a seventh
ground picktown telling out of Kentucky. And so to me,
it's again, this is just like Shadora Sanders. This is
you know, these guys the Caleb Williams of Shahar Sanders.
Caleb was able to a lot of times. I mean
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he was two and seven. He can stop twenty five
teams at USC was able to run around manipulate using
that gifted you know, god given ability he has athletically
to manipulate you know, low lower level college defense of
the defensive back. So when he came into the NFL,
the NFL is based, you know, it's built on timing routes.
So I knew he would struggle because he doesn't have
the instincts. He doesn't have the throwing instinct of the
(28:45):
Patrick Mahomes who doesn't have to rely on his footwork.
He moves around. But it was just really a tough
season for him. Where he found is, you know, he's
most comfortable throwing you know, the short you know range.
I think the thirty third team put out something on
Twitter acts that said he ranked like five hundred and
twentieth out a five hundred and thirty with like a
thirty five percent completion rate on passes over ten yards.
(29:06):
So he had a really tough year of you know,
sixty eight sacks and you know, most sack quarterback in
the NFL, and uh, you know was everything I thought
it was gonna be.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
It wasn't a bus year. You cannot say he had
a bust as a year. You can't say that.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
I think he's a bust overall.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
No, Wow, that wasn't a bus. He broke some records,
rookie records, he did. You cannot say he was a bus.
Come on, Daniel, be fair.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
I am, I am being fair.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
He was a bus last year you lost that. I
don't get that one.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You remember they had they had Washington beat and they
gave up. He watched him down, scored a touchdown, and
then they gave up the Hail Mary to lose that game.
There were a couple of games that he lost with
a kick Bill Gold. It's like three games that he
should have won where he got his team down to
score and then they.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Gave it up.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Hey, I hear exactly what. Hey, I know what happened
in that game too. I mean, I hear what you're saying.
But to me, all he was only twenty four was
a glorified game manager just to play dinkin gun football
and he couldn't he couldn't pass down.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Tom Brady won three Super bowls doing that. Man, No,
they are.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
Five and twelve because the number twenty eighth ranks UBR
in the league, which is near the bottom. And I
don't see it coming up.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
And I don't see Ben Johnson, the really great offensive
coordinator going to somebody that feels like as a bus.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
That's my thing. I think he looks at him and says,
I got something. Something that we got. We got a
club about.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
To get busy there, but we The best part about
it is we all get to wait and see Daniel Kelly.
Thank you so much. We appreciate you. Thanks for taking it,
you know in the first round. Mock on Twitter. Make
sure you give him a follow.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Robin Right, appreciate you, man, appreciate it. All right, we
have a shop talk on deck. Get ready to talk
a little smack as well. Have some fun with that.
You need eat, you do need to eat. Let me guess.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I have two guesses, and I'm probably gonna be right
with one of them. Lunch meat.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
We did that already, we did I missed that, okay,
bake checking in that's that's what so just sal it okay.
Then the third guest, I didn't know any three. All right,
shop talk and uh get to that just a bit.
This the ot Couple. What are you about to say, Alex?
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Does it sound really a sound? If it's just lettuce
and sauce.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You got to crawl before you walk, Alex, You gotta
crawl before you walk home.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I didn't know this one Rob, one day at a time.
Bonnie Franklin was the mother in this. Okay, Yeah, it
wasn't that good those ones. Okay, we're on CBS. I've
never really gotten to this show.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
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Time now for shop talk.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Ain't nobody ex being a bomb shop?
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You know that about the three rep whatever what you
won't to Parker not everything.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
He's Louis is shot talk say what we talk about?
Something happened outside of the world of sports. This week's
topic comes to us from the world of food. We're
awl on die so this kind of made sense, sorry
to say, for all you breakfast lovers out there, Denny's
will be closing as much as ninety restaurants. Are you
(32:37):
serious in the year of twenty twenty five according to
their CFO.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Would you call that a grand slam or not? I
would not call that a grant. I guess they struck out.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
That's a good shoke though, but it got me thinking,
Rob Calvin, Monsey, Alex, what is one store, restaurant what
have you that either has closed, doesn't exist anymore that
you miss or similar to as Red Lobster.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
They're clearly going to be closing soon and you're not
happy about it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
So wait a minute. A restaurant that is going to
be an in store and you know whatever Toys Rush
is out of studio, radio Shack is out.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
That's a good one. Kmrt's good. That's another go one
Hollywood video.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I got well, so mons Blockbuster was gonna be mine.
What an experience on a Friday going whether you were
the kid and your parents ably want to go get
a movie, and then you knew you could get a
video game, or you could get that you know, kid
movie that you've been looking forward to, or as you
got older.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Damn saying what you want to do? Now you want
to go get a movie? Oh yeah, that's good, get
a movie. I used to wait a line that Blockbuster
to get a movie. That was real deal.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It was so fun one, you know what, It's almost
like Amazon now, like even though you're spending your own money,
you don't.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Care like this is fun.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Like Blockbuster, you were spending your own money, but you
felt like it was like they're giving you free movies.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Absolutely, and then when you want to just get like
a dirty one, you have to write it down the number.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yes, that's right, that's right. Well here I.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Am talking about going with you as a kid with
your family going with you. I had a glizzy Rob
did you go in there with a trench coat on
a trench coat and a top?
Speaker 8 (34:13):
Hell?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yes, sir, you can.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Go to the back and they say your name like
Rob your back goodness, see you.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
What do you want? Rob, Hey, your special order is in.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
I missed when I could just go to the movie
theaters and watch it.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Are from New York, so Manti and Hollywood video minds
bl buss bust their video What about you, Alex rob
or Rob something that's gone?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
You got radio shag.
Speaker 10 (34:42):
I guess hold it down for the gamers game Crazy.
That was like a really dope spot back in the
day that was attached to Blockbuster and so it was
cool about is you could go in there. And the
reason why I know they got shut down is they
never pushed sales. You could stand there flours in video
game and it was like you like, never mind how
to buy a teenage life dude.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Looking back on it, we can see why they closed.
Speaker 10 (34:59):
I know why they should. I could stand there for
hours and play games for free. It was like it's
an amazing time because you really don't think about it,
like how money really does deviate our concept of appreciation
for things, and when you have nothing you get everything.
It just seems like the world. You know, I miss them. Yeah,
that was a that era.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I think any kid of your life that twelve thirteen,
fort formidable years it's so great.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
What about you, Rope? I was did you say one
the other rock Rock we closed down with Sambos? Did
you ever hear about that? It was a restaurant in Florida, seriously,
like a like a Denny's kind of place that I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Think we had. That said, I was glad to know.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah that was that's yeah, that's that's a little wild.
But I would say they protest, yeah, and they close
it down. That's a little while.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
But I would say, Chess King, do you guys know
what I have? You never heard of it? That was
a clothing store in every mall in America.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
No, no, every mall in America, Men's clothes. Rob.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I was nervous. It was a men's clothing store called
Chess King.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Never heard of never heard of something else.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
It was just's is good?
Speaker 8 (36:00):
All right?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Rob? Rob? G have you gone? Did you say I've
never well, I've never heard of that one.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
But mine doesn't make any sense because Montgomery Wards was
not a great store, like it was anything different, right,
But I have a core memory when I was really little,
we went with my mom and my brother and he's.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Like, hey, we got to go. That's like California.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Mom's calling us, let's go, and I said, I don't
even know you, mister, leave me alone. And there was
another woman like ready to smack my brother, thinking I
was getting abducted, right, And I thought that was the
funniest thing.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
And I'm sitting here gelling me. Later later I gotta.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
Say, yeah, but at the time, that was the funniest
thing that ever happened to me.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I don't know who you are.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Say about instant kara. Guys, did your daughter do that
to you?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Oh? Yeah, you said that to everybody's like, sir, so
do you know the child do that?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
So?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Wait, no you sir? Is that your child?
Speaker 10 (36:49):
Like I don't want to go with you, yeah, sir.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Now the guy who beats his kid apparently no, no,
he ain't lying.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
No.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Kids will have people thinking some crazy wild stuff about you,
that is for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
All right.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
We got Montgomery Wards Chess said blockbuster video for me,
Hollywood video for Moncie.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Rinky says, hometown but fe from the back nice?
Speaker 4 (37:10):
But yeah, I mean yeah, I think they're if there's
still one later around somewhere.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I went once and didn't pay there.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Nice
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