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February 14, 2025 38 mins

Rob and Kelvin tell us how the Shai Gilgeous-Alexander vs Nikola Jokic race for the NBA MVP is similar to Lamar Jackson vs Josh Allen in the NFL, discuss the biggest reason why Rob remains single in his 60s and share their thoughts on JuJu Watkins’ big night against UCLA. Plus, SportsEthos Fantasy Basketball podcast host Rick Kamla swings by to discuss his biggest problem with the NBA All-Star Game, his pick for the NBA MVP award, Steph Curry’s impact on the sport of basketball and much more!

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(01:20):
up in about twenty seven minutes. You got a lot
to talk about in our number two, including let's start here.
Valentine's Day, right, Yeah, Kelvin, you've been married for how
many years?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Sixteen eighteen divided by two and yeah, it's been eight
sixteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
You've been married that long?

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Sixty yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Man, wow, yeah, I'm going on seventeen this this August.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
That's late August.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Man's.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, it's funny because I remember you remember hearing people
say that, right like ten years, twelve, fifteen year You're like, dang, right,
it just it happens quick. So it also happens when
it's you know, it's a good thing too, Like it's
not like, boy, I tell you, it's been the worse
ten twelve, fifteen years of my life. But uh but
Valentine's they super chill man already. I just took my
my daughter's out. So we went and oh that's what

(02:10):
I got told me for lunch or Yeah, we took
a little lunch and I told her wherever you want
to go? Camera's my middle one. I said, wherever you
want to go? She said McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
That was her pick.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
That was because because we don't let her go there,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
So if we go to a lot of other places,
so we went there, but I got them a little
you know Valentine's bag with some you know, a little
cute little Valentine's stickers and coloring things and candy.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
So I took care of them.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
And then the wife, you don't, got her some nice stuff,
got her the flowers, the chocolates, the balloons, and and
no big gift, nothing something something else, you know, something else.
And I mean, you know, also a big gift is
your boy.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
It's your boy.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well she might feel short changed.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
I'm just saying, Rob, Hey, Rob, I ain't got three
kids for nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
But yeah, so just super chill right now.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
You know, with the way my life and the schedule is,
you know, we kind of know that I work a lot,
she works a lot. So we'll, uh, it's chill right now,
and you go through that relationship. Whereas some seasons, hey
it's a little more chill, relaxed. Other season, let's do
it up and go to Paris on a honeymoon. I mean,
for no reason, like Rob parkerdal.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
That was in the old days.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Those days are long gone, Rob g Alex Valentine's Day,
I mean, Alice got the new uh bowl. Yes, he's uh,
really into it. This is your first Valentine's Day together,
right as a couple?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Was the second one?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Well?

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Actually no, it's like a thing. You're right, so that's
the first.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's the first one.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
I'm gonna blow your mind here, right?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Are you doing anything tonight?

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Know, we don't celebrate holidays?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Okay, that's fine, that's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Ain't nothing wrong with that. You kind of lucked out though.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's why that doesn't cost you any money. You know,
a good thing.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
I'm designed to consumerism, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (03:43):
And Rob G, she because you can get away with
you might not be, but.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
She got to be agreeing to him.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
Otherwise y'all wouldn't be together for ten years. I didn't
break it for no reason.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
There you go. Ten years is amazing. Now he's swimming
in it.

Speaker 7 (03:59):
I don't know how drownd Okay, rob G, Well, I'm
sure you guys know real ones, the veterans of this game. No,
you never actually celebrate on Valentine's Day. That's just the
that's a rookie mistake.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
I fall on a Friday, though.

Speaker 8 (04:13):
But.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
You're just saying like you got a weekend.

Speaker 7 (04:18):
I'm going out tomorrow night. When it's less packed at
the restaurant. We got a reservation to a little steakhouse. Yeah, yeah, no,
no coon. But what I did today was I I
already got her card. I went and got her some flowers.
You know, I went early before it got really packed.
The problem and maybe doub contested this because I have

(04:39):
a daughter who's like aware of things. Now, if I
don't get her a flower, then it's a problem. So
how to get her a little bouquet? And hers is
actually more colorful than my wife's, so she thinks it's better.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
So that's beautiful.

Speaker 7 (04:52):
Yeah, so she's like, yeah, what's up, mom, Mine's better.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Than your step your game. I know you got two
dozens of red roses. You ain't got this little dandelion. Okay,
don't got it?

Speaker 5 (05:01):
No dat.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
All I'm gonna say is I was pleasantly surprised. Some
female friends from my past reached out to me and
wished me happy. Saint Patrick's I mean, Saint Valanced.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Are you already drunk?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
People saying?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
People say it all the time onether thing Rob is
drunk or something. I'm like, what do they get that?
I don't even drink like that? What you don't drink
like that. But but so you just said female friends.
I wonder if they're watching to see if he would
acknowledge me. And then you just mentioned multiple ones. You
mean I'm not the only one that hits you up.
I'm sorry about that. No, but just friends, you know

(05:37):
what I mean? Like friends now? So yeah, it was cool,
all right, that's all I'm just curious about. You know what,
You're gonna go home and love up on yourself.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I do that every night.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
That's a drunk pause.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Oh god, as I mean big, like just like crazy?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Is that a spike lee?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Is that a I mean uh yes, John Johnson, that
is all Tom Paul is going.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
That was so great, Alex.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
You didn't get that. I think the machine wasn't recording.

Speaker 7 (06:06):
There's a funny clip of Jack Harlowe and and someone
says pause, he goes resume like.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
That might be the best thing Jack Harlow did right.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
On the breakfast clip. Friend of the show, Charlamagne and
those guys, Yes, yep, absolutely, all right.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well let's turn to more NBA talk, right, and Rob
g you got the numbers that came in. There was
a straw poll of NBA execs right, anonymous.

Speaker 7 (06:38):
No, So ESPN does a MVP straw pole, and it's
done by Tim Bontemp's longtime NBA insider over there. Yeah,
And what he does is he actually surveys basically all
the actual NBA MVP voters every city international. So in
his study, this is like ninety nine percent accurate of

(06:59):
what the final vote.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
But you know what, didn't that happen though before with
the mb do you remember he the Joker won that.

Speaker 7 (07:05):
So he does three different ones. He got early, middle,
and then the end. So this is the middle one.
Based on his current polling, SGA is gonna run away
with this one. He got seventy of the one hundred
first place votes. The only other player to receive any
first place votes was Yogic he got thirty. But based

(07:26):
on the way things are tracking, it would be an
upset of epic proportions if anybody other than Shake Gilgers
Alexander ends up running away with his MVP.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Well, I mean, there's a couple of ways of looking
at this, Robin. I think you'll appreciate the way I
kind of view this. We just had this conversation for
an entire football season. More importantly, the last month or so,
and I look at SGA and Jokic as a combination
of Lamar and Josh Allen, and in this case, Jokic
is Lamar. Here's the where You've already won multiple You've

(08:03):
already been in the mix for even the ones you
didn't win. You were in the mix candidate to win MVP.
You even have the better stats, and in fact, you
have historic stats.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Stats are just stating.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
However, I lean on the narrative that, ah, you've already won,
We've already given it to you, and your team has
the record is worse on your end versus your counterpart.
SGA and Josh Allen are the same. They've been in
the mix, but they haven't won. They've been close, but
they haven't won. They're likable. It's a new story, it's fresh.

(08:36):
SGA is so likable with his teammates. They don't even
do singular interviews. Whoever wins the postgame interview, they all
come up, they all bark, they're all dogs. It's cute.
Better team success. They have the better records, one of
the best records in the NBA. Josh Allen had a
better record than than Lamar Jackson and I think there's
something similar that where it's just your time. And lastly,

(08:56):
when you go back to Jokic, that would be Ford.
I believe five years for him if he were to win,
that is crazy. And I think voters go, there's no way,
as great as he's been, we can do that. When
we didn't do that for Lebron, Kobe, Jordan, so on
and so bad. That's ridiculous. That's totally ridiculous. If you

(09:16):
think that's ridiculous, why is he not even close right
now in the voting.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Having a great, great year.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
And I think that the voters unfortunately are fickled because
they did that with Mbiad and I think they all
if they could redo that vote and disagree with me,
if they could redo that vote, and you saw what
the Joker did. He put up his historic in a
historic postseason run and winning a championship that.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Was the postseason.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
But no, that's not what I'm saying is they didn't
give it to him right for that reason because oh,
he hadn't won anything yet, and he went on to
win and that was a year that they played that game.
And I'm telling you, if you were to redo the vote,
just after seeing what that guy did and his regular season,
they wouldn't have voted for mb and and and that's

(10:07):
why that's the danger in it is trying to spread
it around.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
No, stop, give it to them. The No, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
I don't disagree.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I don't, okay, because I saw I saw Bonds win
seven m vps. I saw Roger Clemens win seven Cy youngs. No, No,
I don't.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
See Michael Jordan's.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I think they make a mistake in the NBA, and
it's a it's a dumb thing to go on.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Maybe the NBA specific. I agree that it may be
NBA specific. Maybe baseball doesn't mind.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I just don't remember people going, oh, no, well, Barry
Bonds won it last year.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Okay, he had fifty home runs. No, don't give it.
I do wonder if if baseball had one league. I
do wonder how that would change two MVPs. But no,
that's my point. So it's it's not a singular person
winning over and over. It's Barry Bond win in one league,
but somebody else winning in another. If there was just one,
I do wonder if Barry would have gotten so many,
because they may have said, let's spread that out I'm

(11:08):
tired of him ignificent. It's multiple, so you can get
it two different guys in different times. NBA it would
just be one, NFL would just be one. And I'm
just wondering if that's why again we see Michael Jordan.
Now he'll get another one at some point. Let me
give it to Karl Malone. Let me give it to
uh No.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I think I think when you say that, I think
you're disrespectful. It's not that Michael Jordan won't the best player.
That doesn't mean he was the MVP. And and I
think that's the there's a difference between the two.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
So Josh Allen was then they were disrespectful with the
NFL this year, right, What are you talking about? Meaning
Josh Allen wonted like Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Oh, I think it was a terrible people who changed
their votes. They should it should have been Whoever, if
you wanted to vote for Josh, you should have voted
for Josh for first Team All Pro.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
That should be the same that it doesn't matter if
if Josh was your guy, you know, like they did
it out of guilt because they knew they couldn't shut
out Lamar totally, because then if they're they're like, they'd
have to answer to that would do do you disagree?
If Lamar got nothing, then people would be like, this
is a sham. And I think that's why people still

(12:21):
went out and gave Lamar.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like a a.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Parting gift, you know what I mean, because they knew,
but they knew they couldn't do.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
It, Like there's no way Lamar could have a historic
scenason with you on that. But what I'm saying is,
that's my point is that people have these ways of
going into where they're like, well, ah, this person is
or I like Lamar he actually had a story, but
Josh Allen or Jokics, but man, that would be four
out of five and Jordan's career, like nobody was getting
these four out of five.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
But the joker is gonna play for a long time.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I mean, so he's gonna so he's got three, they're
gonna deny him the rest.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Of his They wanna have four and five. That was
a difference.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
If he s at seven, he might have he might
have seven when it's all over, but.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
That's spread out. It's a history out of five as
a historic thing. If we give you four or seven
out of.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
The eighteen years you care what he did last year
that that shouldn't factor in.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
You're being rational for one of the few times you're
being rational. You're being rational right now.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I just don't understand.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
You're making sense. But did you get what I'm saying
that this happens. I'm not saying it should.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
It does not because are bad voters.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I'm telling you people have a right to vote whatever
they want, but this is bad if you're really looking
at stuff and basing it off of what somebody did
last year. I tell people all the time, it ain't
about last year. It ain't about the playoffs. You gotta
get off of that. It's a regular season award.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, And I totally think multiple things coming in the factor.
Like I said, I think the previous season, even the
next season, who they project, well, he'll win another one.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
So I'm gonna give it to the other.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Guy now because he'll probably be in the mixed next year,
and I think all that goes into play. But to me,
that's why SGA. But his team is so he's very
much deserving. His team is have an incredible year. He
could have won it last year's right there in the
mix too, so, but I think that's why Yokis is
so far behind.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
Well, Doug, to your point, I listened to the podcast
that they did after this poll came out. All three
of the guys on that show are voters. One of
them said, I came into this saying, Yogic is gonna
have to do something unbelievable for we nedn't even consider
him to win MVP because four out of five and
the historical context behind that would be too much to overcome.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Yep and people.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
But that's funny is that Yogic right now is on
pace to have the highest pe rory.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Just like Lamar was one of River Robs, the number
three best was it QB already the number four quarterback
of all and for sales season, and the other three
had won the m v P no the last eleven
of one of mv But but in that case, absolutely, yeah, exactly,
that's what I'm saying the last three and then and
he didn't. So what happens where people do that? And
I think Jokis's greatness is working against him. They're going, oh, well,

(15:05):
we've seen this, I've seen this before. It's that's the problem.
He's Oh, I've seen him average twenty six, twelve and nine.
I've seen him do that every year, and I think
it works against him.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's ridiculous. It just that you shouldn't penalize somebody for
being great.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Does the MVP
race between s GA versus the Joker feel like the
NBA's version of Alan versus Lamar? Will continue that conversation
next with you. It is the odd Couple on a
funky flashback going to Hawaii Friday, Rob Parker kelvin Washington

(15:48):
right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
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Speaker 6 (15:52):
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Speaker 5 (16:23):
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Speaker 10 (16:32):
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Speaker 4 (16:33):
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Speaker 5 (16:36):
Probably that goes.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
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Speaker 1 (17:05):
Incredible, Rob g real quick? Are you going to Hawaiian
not having any drinks?

Speaker 4 (17:10):
I just thought about it, don't buy it, don't know
just I told the man start with back.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
Probably they got kids with me, so I can't get
that toasted, have a couple.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
I told him to just start when he gets back.
It's it's almost not fair.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Say that because I'm winning. I'm winning. How much you down?
I didn't look?

Speaker 5 (17:26):
I'm wait, wait, wait, wait, why are you winning? Roger?
You don't know what I got. I'm spelt okay.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yet? So far?

Speaker 5 (17:33):
All right? Rick Kablo on the.

Speaker 7 (17:34):
Way a little bit, I thought, so I don't want
to see the Mexican man winning.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I get it. Oh wow, trying to keep the Mexican man.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
Trying to keep him down.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
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Speaker 1 (17:46):
Jonas Knox said, that's got to be racist, all right,
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox talking about s
g A and uh Yo Joker. Yes, let's go to
Drew in New Jersey. You're on the odd couple Fox
Sports Radio. What's that happening?

Speaker 10 (18:02):
Drew?

Speaker 8 (18:03):
Hey, guys, I just think that the media voting right now.
I don't think journalists in the sports media are as
unbiased as they used to be, or are as biased
or unbiased as they used to be. I think that
we may need to look into how voting gets done
because NBA and NFL are just trouggling with us.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, I don't disagree. And and here's the other thing.
You can't do fan voting because that that there's a
popularity part of that. And you can't do player voting
because people have skinning the game.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Do you agree with that?

Speaker 5 (18:40):
Drew?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
We saw that.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, first of all, there's a there's a negative pushback
on European players.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
So I don't think the joker. If this was.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
NBA players voting Kelvin or or you know, fans, that
he would get a fair shot. And number two, I
think that we saw that when players got to vote
for the All Star Game and one hundred and fifty
players didn't vote for Lebron James like that, that tells

(19:12):
you all you need to know.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
How could you not?

Speaker 4 (19:14):
That's vot that balance, you know between the riders, the fans,
the players that try to you know, those leagues, whether
it be All Star games or they try to find
a balance because writers can have bias now more than
ever because just the adversarial relationship with athletes, and then
obviously players have beak or I don't like that guy
or you know, and then fans sometimes are just too
literally fanatically.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I know, pick everybody, and I know you know, I
love baseball and I love the BBWAA, I really do,
even though we don't always get it right. Okay, I
do because I thought Bonds and Clement should have got in. Okay,
So we don't always get it right. But when I
look talk about integrity, and you know, see some of

(19:53):
the stuff. When I think about Jackie Robinson being voted
Rookie of the Year in nineteen forty seven.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
Right, it says a lot.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
It says a lot, doesn't it come on man like like?
It just says a lot to the integrity of the BBW.
A I can't say enough about it. And I told
you before Barry Bonds wasn't good to us. And guess what,
they voted him m VP seven times in the Nationals.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
That's not that I give him credit.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
That says something.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, I definitely give him credit.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Hey, Rick Kamla coming up and just speaking about Barry Bonds.
You see him, he's coaching, Yeah, coaching.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
It's funny.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
I saw that him and Jerry Jerry Rice are coaching
the you know, the young rocking Stars.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
San Francisco logo legends.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Right, no, no, no, makes sense.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
But it's one of those like this is how it starts,
you know, the rebuilding process.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
And you know you started to.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
See uh, you know Mark McGuire do this some years ago,
just popping up in places, and you know it just
kind of the re and no greater example than Aaron
rodd Aaron, What am I trying to say? A Rod
uh Rodriguez because he just start popping up and you know,
and doing stuff and showing up, been doing interviews, and
then he's on Fox and he's like.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
All right, I kind of got rid of I'm over
the steroid.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Now he owns an NBA team, exactly exactly. So this
is how this starts, where you get back in good graces.
And we've seen Mike Tyson do it. We've seen Tiger Woods.
Now he's like family man on the course with his son.
I mean you, you know, you give us some time, man,
and time can heal most wounds. All right, Rick Kamalo
talk to more hoops in just a bit. But right now,
Steven Seager, what's trending?

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Speaker 5 (21:37):
All right, there you have it. Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Appreciate you coming to your line from the Tireck dot
com studios. Rick Kameler our guest host of Sports Ethos
Fantasy Basketball podcast. Rick Kammeler Sports on Twitter. Give him
a follow, Rick, what's going on? Man?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
How you what's happening?

Speaker 10 (21:50):
Rick Bells, what's up?

Speaker 5 (21:55):
A bunch? Of hoops.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yes, what do you want to start Kelvin with the
the MVP? Want to start there already? All Star game?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yet we can start Rick. We were just having a conversation.
I don't know if youve got a chance to listen
when he never misses it, you mean when you start
talking MVP votes. We've had this conversation start even in NFL.
Robin myself, I believe that sometimes voters get fatigued. I
don't want to give it to the Joki again. I
don't want to give it to Lamar Jackson again.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
In NFL.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
I don't want to give it to Jordan olt Verron again.
Do you buy that narrative? Do you think that happens?
Because I believe they're people and people are human and
these things happen.

Speaker 10 (22:33):
Yeah. I definitely think voter fatigue is a thing. Uh,
But this year I think Esjay's the MVP. I mean,
the guy's been spiking up for fifty He's never done
that before. He's thirty every single game. But guys, I
look at the separation between Okac and Denver and the standings,
and there's a wide gap eight nine, ten games whatever.

(22:55):
It is, So like Kauz Jokiz is averaging a triple
double the guys having an MVP season. You could argue
that this is the best season of Jokic's career, but
the fact that SGA has taken his game to another level,
going to lead the league in scoring, Okase, he has
the record that they have, They've got complete dominance on
the West. I think it's his year. I think it's
time to crown this man. SGA was my MVP last year, guys,

(23:19):
and SGA was my most improved player of the year
before when he got absolutely robbed by some by some
misguided voters, the one with Lowry markin and it didn't
even finish the season. So it's time we crowd this man.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Well, let me ask you this, Rick, Here's my issue
I have in pushback, and he's having a great year SGA.
I'm not trying to diminish anything he's done, but are
you into analytics?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
How far? How much do you look at analytics?

Speaker 10 (23:47):
Not that far? I mean I'm a fantasy guy, so
I look at the numbers, but analytics don't pay the bills.
In fantasy basketball, points, rebounds, assists, block steals, field goal percentage,
free throw percentage, and threes may pay the Billsanta Basketball.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Well, here's the stat that the jokers PR.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
It will what PAC's on now would be the all
time best in NBA history. And he's a two full
points ahead of SGA. Like, I get it, And it
depends on what writers and people who.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Are voting what they look at.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
But how can you look at that and think he's
going to have the all time greatest mark for PR
two points ahead of the guy you think should be MVP,
and justify it.

Speaker 10 (24:36):
Well, I can justify it with the separation in the standings.
There is an eight and a half games separation. Guys.
Okt is forty four and ten, Denver is thirty three
and nineteen. And I believe, and you know this is
all on voter preference. But as I look at NBA
MVP and NFL MVP and MLB MVP, although the voters

(24:58):
don't look at this. In mL they don't care about
wins the loss and they just care about analytics and
all that nerdy stuff. But I'm merged win loss record
with statistics and when you merge win loss record, because
I think with MVP, it's all about winning. It's all
about what you did to get your team to the
highest point possible. And Jokic is kicking at like I said,
arguably having the best year of his career. But Sga

(25:20):
and his team are eight and a half games ahead
of jokicchen That to me is the mitigating factor.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yeah, I mean it's gonna be interesting as Ga the
team is.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Could you know at one point they were on a
historic run with their record? Rick Cameler our guest, Rick,
I want to go to a conversation about the trades.
You got Jimmy Butler up there in the Bay, you
got Luca in La and then maybe a sneaky one
Kyle Kuzman maybe had a little offensive punch, little defense
in Milwaukee. Was there a trey as the Lakers is
simply they of the winner. Do you feel like maybe

(25:53):
Jimmy Butler helps the Warriors better now?

Speaker 10 (25:56):
I mean they're better because they have life again. They
needed a shot in the arm. That was a rotting
carcass of a team right before the trade. I mean
they sucked. They were beyond mediocre. Now they're three in
one with Jimmy Butler. Steph Curry's playing better, the return
of Draymond and the addition of Jimmy Butler really is
super charge step and he's back into engagement mode. I

(26:17):
thought he was going through the motions, but ultimately this
team is very, very flawed. Steve Kerr has the worst
rotation in the NBA. He has no clue night tonight,
what the hell he's doing. You're starting Buddy Heel playing
in thirty minutes, then you put him on the bench
and playing thirteen minutes, and Pojenski plays thirty nine minutes.
My head is spinning, okay, and it's not working. Guys.
When you can't define a rotation, you're a mediocre team.

(26:39):
So I'm not with it. I love that you brought
up Kuzma because I think Kuzma to Milwaukee is huge.
They needed a shot in the arm. Giannis MVP level,
Dame All NBA level, Lopez and Portis. You know, they
are who they are. They're solid players, but they needed
more oomp, they needed more scoring, and I think Kusma's
going to give.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
It to him.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Let's go to the NBA All Star weekend.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Of course that's started already in San Francisco, and just
awful ratings. People have been turned off scores over two
hundred last year I mean, now they're trying I don't know,
nine different teams playing in a tournament or.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I don't I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I got a headache every time they explain what the
formula is and the and the you know, for the.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
But but Rick, at some point, I mean, can they
think about like the NFL did where they just stopped
doing the Pro Bowl, or stop doing this because the players.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Don't want to play.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
I mean, I've never seen, you know, professional athletes not
want to compete. And I don't buy into the they
don't want to get hurt argument. I just can't use
that and buy into that. If they're playing at UCLA
in the summer, they play better than they play at
the All Star Game.

Speaker 10 (27:53):
Rob I made that point last night in my podcast,
the exact same point. It's such a I want to
cuss right now, but I won't. It's such a bunch
of bull crafts.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Right.

Speaker 10 (28:02):
These guys play all summer. They get off the ground,
they're hustling, they're they're at the drew, they're at the Rucker,
and they're at the DMV. They're at all of these runs, right,
and that's great, Okay, but you don't want it like,
I mean, nobody wants Game seven defense in the all
time No, you just want them to play kind of hard.

(28:24):
But they don't even do that. And so yes, I
think I think it's a god awful shame that we
had to scrap the All Star Game. Okay, this is
an eighty year tradition that we flushed down the toilet
because of the laziness and empowerment of toy players. It's
a joke.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
I can we completely agree, Rick, We've been saying that
for some time.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
I should have to give you a gimmick, and I
should have the venue and pay you more money.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
You're making millions go hoo.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
For forty minutes, forty eight minutes.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
The fans show my God like they I think sometimes
they lose sight. The All Star Game was for the fans,
and we saw some of the greatest players. We just
Michael Jordan at half speed last year, Rick, they had
three thousand in the game.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Can you imagine that?

Speaker 5 (29:06):
No, they literally did.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Rick.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
It's crazy, thou Fowles, and nobody's asking it to become
the refs game. But my goodness, play kind of hard. Rick,
I'll ask you this one. Let me when we talk
about Steph Katie Lebron kind of the old guard of
the league. Who are you looking at as somebody I
don't want to say singularly the face of the league,
but when you're starting to see, all right, these guys

(29:28):
got to move on up and really not only by
their play, but winning, becoming statesman, becoming doing commercials and
really taking that ownership of the league. Who are some
of the maybe handful you're looking at.

Speaker 8 (29:39):
Well?

Speaker 10 (29:40):
I love the question, So I was listening. I started
with Luca as my answer, and as you continue to
ask the question and go to you know, spokesman and commercials.
For whatever reason, the European guys just don't get the advertise,
the advertisement shine here. They just don't you know, they
don't speak great English and whatever. I don't know. So
I would say Anthony Edwards. You know, he was already

(30:00):
in a national you know, Christmas ad for Sprite, you know,
with what was it anti clause or whatever?

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yeah, Anta clause. Yeah, that was pretty funny.

Speaker 10 (30:07):
Yeah, And so he hasn't even won MVP or won
a championship yet, so wait until all that stuff happened.
So I would say Anthony Edwards to that.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, I think the uh the European thing is interesting
because the biggest UH star in baseball is Japanese.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
And if you see any.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Of the Dodgers, no matter where they play, they sell out.
They're like the beatles Man when they go from stadium
to stadium. So it's interesting. But he's such a unicorn.
Maybe that's what makes him different, you know, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (30:40):
I think yeah, baseball guy, guys, guys. By the way,
the Dodgers are going one hundred and sixty two and
oh yeah, my god, man, one of the greatest teams
I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I mean they've put they've just gone all out. Well
we shall see.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Rick. I'll ask you this real quick.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
The last National League team to win back to back
World Series?

Speaker 2 (30:58):
You got to answer from me?

Speaker 10 (31:01):
Oh boy, is it the Giant? No, the Giants didn't
win back to back. I don't have the answer for you.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
The nineteen seventy five Cincinnati read seventy five, seventy six.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Can you believe that?

Speaker 10 (31:12):
Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
And the last team ever was the Yankees twenty five
years ago.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
It's unbelievab dude, Rob, you're hitting me where I live man,
Johnny Bench and Pete ro my baseball heroes, grown up,
the Big Red Machine, doubt, Dave Consimpsio, George Foster. Let's go, baby.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
They had a great team, all time, great team, no
doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
All right, Rick, Man, we appreciate you. Enjoy All Star weekend.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Hopefully all of us can be excited by his revitalization.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Maybe, just maybe I'm not watching one minute. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
I'm sorry he's not watching because Caitlin Clark isn't in it.

Speaker 10 (31:44):
Rick, That's right, Seriously, I'm in Thompson plus ten thousand
All Star MVP. Please put a little bit of money
on that. You'll thank me later.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
All right, Oh, Thompson boys, and they are no joke, Rick,
You're yeah, I'm in is a baller, all right, so much, man,
I appreciate you all right. On the way, you know,
somebody is having speaking of a great She is having
a great impact in college basketball Juju Watkins. But she'll
never be as big as We'll tell you it is

(32:14):
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Speaker 4 (32:28):
A couple Rob Kelvin on a funky flashback Friday. But
happy Valentine's Day to you. Are all you love birds
out there, even those loving yourself, loving your parents, loving
your children, whatever it may be, spreading all the love
around here.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, for some of us single people make us feel
good on this.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
I am. I'm trying to.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
But by the way, I mean some of you, you
particularly are single by choice because we know you get
the quarterly Hey sir, just checking on you.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Oh yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
I'm just cool you choosing to be single out here
in these streets. I know you got some late know
to be.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Some damage done in my life. I'm trying to get
through you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
I think you like some you.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
You know, I think I don't want anybody else.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Know I'm saying not like that, but I think listen.
I mean it's sincerely. Actually, there is an element.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
He rips me. Let me hear this.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
No no rip, no rip. There's an element and robb
G can relate to this. When you have been alone,
like you like a single, find out say I'm alone.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
That's why I change it. U I changed it single.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
I'm not alone.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
When you've been single here's what I mean. You love
things the way you love things. I would too, like
I don't like people to touch this. I like to
go here, I eat this time of day. I don't
like the can and to have It's hard to intertwine
that stuff because stuff gets ugly. They leave their clothes here,
they don't close the refrigerator you know they want. And
it's like, ah, But when you've been with somebody for

(33:49):
a long time, Robbie, this way you can relate, You
kind of grow it.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
And you get used to it.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
You kind of know how to get over you just did,
and you just love them for it who they are,
because you built this thing together.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 8 (33:59):
I could have.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Imagine if I was fifty fifty five, you know, just
single right even now, doing all right, making some money,
looking alright, like that's hard to like, just hey, intertwine
and me.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
And then this person comes and changes your whole world.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
When you've got accustomed to your vibe, your essence, doing
it your way.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (34:17):
If that makes sense?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
But the only thing is you look at it and
you say, if you're going to get with somebody after
that much time of not being married or whatever or
in serious relationship. Then they have to enhance your life,
not become you know, learn some Yes, do you know
what I mean? And that's where the issue comes in. Uh,

(34:40):
And it's it's harder. I just think I just think
it's harder.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
It's hard. I mean, you got on guccies to jogging
suits and whatever. You know. It's how she gonna enhance
this life.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
She can enhance it.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
The only things you're gonna enhance, I would. I hope
she can enhance your palte. I hope seeking in your
food palette. That's the only thing she's gonna be like.
Look sir, you're not about to keep eating tiketos my face.
You're not about to keep eating his baked chicken every day?
Are we gonna go get you some crab cakes? And
because they gets you out? Yeah, it get you some right,
all right?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Get your point.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
I mean, it's totally get it.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
That's why I said I'm not I totally actually understand
how it could be like that.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
You can get into a situation like that where where
it's just you're used to what you're used to when
you just thought, don't want to change.

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quickly robbed. Juju Watkins man, they had sold out at
the Galen Center out here at USC. It was U
c l a who's number one in women's hoops college hoops,

(35:46):
and then Yuju Watkins and the USC the Trojans are
as you know, teaching there. They're six great game, up
and down. They're up, They're up, No, they're up, They're up.
Juju gost like thirty six thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Thirty eight points. And she had been scuffling before that.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah, and it goes crazy in front of that massive crowd.
Kevin harstare Fleet from the Red Chili Peppers are there.
I mean it was crazy. I joked that I might
try to get tickets after the after our show, and
everybody said, yeah, right, good luck.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
I was like, really, it was sold out. It was great.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
But you I think you agree that as great as
she is, and I think she's a better basketball talent
than Caitlyn Clark. She's never going to have that global
impact or that buzz because I think there's a race
factor that absolutely plays a role in the way in
which the style in which Kaitlyn Clark played made people
like wow.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
I think the style is a big part of it
as well, because and I'm not denying the race part,
but the style of play compared to Juju being a
really good women's basketball player, yeah, compared to Caitlyn putting
up logo threes that caught everybody's attention, that's what separated

(36:56):
her from women's basketball. And whether they want to believe
it or not, I've seen some of the highlights of
WNBA games and some moments of them, you know what
I mean, just passing by and it's not a pretty sight.
It's not a pretty game. And I think her ability
change that, you know what I mean, and got people
to say.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Who is this, Yes, you're the female stuph Curry shooting
and doing shots that normally put you on the bench.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
She's shooting them, she's pulling them.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
And I think that the race part played it just
because like anything in America, it's America is what we do.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
It started the conversations more. It made it.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
It made it you know, topical, It made it hot
and heated, debated, highly debated, I should say, but Juju
Watkins is just an all around dynamic player inside, outside,
mid range, layups, threes, defense. She had eight blocks last night.
She's absolutely incredible. And the women's game right now, man
women's groups game is it is at a big time

(37:49):
pitch fever. They got a bunch of townsed players in
the pros. Bunch of towns are coming up from college.
Part of it too, rob they got to play all
four years before they really get into the league, so
they're kind of well rounded as players too.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
So I think that plays a

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Wrong steph Curry, is it not being fair the standard
that he's not being held to, will explain Fox Sports Radio,
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