February 15, 2025 • 25 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Andy Reid should follow Travis Kelce into retirement, argue whether or not Caitlin Clark inadvertently ruined the NBA All-Star Weekend by refusing to participate in the NBA-WNBA 3-Point Showdown and discuss the narrative that Steph Curry has actually had a negative impact on the NBA.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
The Super Bowl is over.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
And anybody watched the game, Kelsey looks like a shell
of himself.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You can't you can't even like fake the function.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Right, So Rob g this to know stories words out
there that maybe that was it for Kelsey, right, Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Right.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
So you had NFL Network in various other outlets saying
even though Travis Kelsey said the entire lead up to
this Super Bowl that he plans on playing a couple
more years and when he was saving three years.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
More, he wants to play me more. Oh God.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
The problem was is in the immediate aftermath to the game,
Xavier Worthy, they asked him about his feelings about what happened,
and he said something to the effect of, you know
the fact that there's gonna be several guys here who
are not gonna be playing anymore, you know, makes it
hard to swallow, which people interpreted as he knows Travis
Kelse is gonna retire, right and that's that's a big
deal for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
And he made a whole and ridiculously long post like,
first of all, just just do a podcast and might
got time to be reading all that that was?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That was too long, too lengthy. He thought he was
writing for the New York Times he did. Did you
see that thing?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It was a ridiculous but my gosh, like we get it.
That's I totally gets your brother.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You love him.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But first of all, first of all, no one asked
for it, Like where did.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It come from? It's just you know.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
But with that being said, uh, Travis Kelce, absolutely, it's
just that time because it wasn't a matter of okay,
they're just not looking for him right, maybe because let's
say they had better option, but if.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
You remember earlier in the season he was non existent.
They could but like he couldn't get open right, and
he popped up for a game or two games he'd
have a flash of himself, which which great players are
gonna do. I mean, Kobe Bryant's last game he went,
I was sixty. But if you look maybe five games ago,
you'd be like, oh, it's time he did take sixty five.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
He did. I'm just saying I was there. It was
lit though. Yeah, Travis Kelsey looked old.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He looked easily defense defended, like they could defend him
very easily. His moves that he usually does doesn't work.
And again maybe because he's been there, that's what the organization.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
They love him.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
They have him in some type of Again I use
it as a basketball reference, but you Donnas haslim roll
of just you're on the team, you teach our other
guys how to be professional.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
That thing.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But him, the days of him being productive being the
security blanket for Patrick Mahomes, those are long going. And
Patrick Mahomes gonna have to find somebody. He's gonna have
to get a new blanket. You know how your little
baby loves a little blanket and carry around. He gonna
have to get a new blanket. Yeah, he's the line
of blanket right, yes, right, yep. My daughter has one. Yeah,
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my six year old she loves. She doesn't use it
during the day, but that night or is she gonna
take a little nap? You bet gonna give a little
whe blanket. I'm like, girl, it only comes up to
you kneecaps. Now, she still got it, she loves it.
I got, but I got bigger than I got bigger
fish to front?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
All right? Who else is frying fry fish? Good me
back in New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, I'm just saying, along with Travis Kelsey, I think
this might be it was too good to be true.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
What No, I'm serious. I'm dead serious here.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Travis Kelcey should take Andy Reid with them, and Andy
Weid should step down as head coach of the Kansas
City Chiefs. And you're gonna be like, they just went
to the Super Bowl three times, Andy Reid blah blah
blah blah. Okay, Okay, So there's a couple of things
that bothered me about where where the Kansas City Chiefs are?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And just follow me. I'm listening because I've been saying this.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
This is not a one game reaction because they lost
in the Super Bowl and they got boat raced and
it was forty to six.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I don't count those last sixteen points. It was bad.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Where were the adjust where was the game plan? Not
even I'm not a football coach. Guys who are football
coaches and questioned the game plan, no running game to
start at all, and then you get behind, you gotta pass.
This is what he did in Philadelphia, all the time,
pass happy, always throwing the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
They got tired of that in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Number two, This fall off the cliff is two years
in the making. Last year they won the Super Bowl,
so it kind of covered up how bad things were.
You remember with the receivers and the struggles and Patrick Mahomes.
Here's another year. Andy Reid is supposed to be an
offensive genius. Why is Patrick Mahomes struggling so much when
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you can't figure out a way to get him off
and to get him to be not fifty touchdowns and
throwing every ball down field, but way better? Can you
admit that Patrick Mahomes hasn't been the same quarterback the
last two years? And I'm trying to figure out Andy
Reid is supposed to be that guy, and yet.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We haven't seen it.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Where was the adjustment at all to say, dude, they're
coming with four, we gotta do something else. We gotta
figure out something, something's open if they're coming, you know
what I mean. Or we got to figure out something.
Get the ball out quick. Hey dude, this have a
max protect We need to do something and set up
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something to shake that up a little bit, have a
big play to where they have to feel a little
more concerned. It never came. Yeah, it never came. So
I'm just looking at it. It's been a nice run,
but think about it. The last two years have been
disappointing regular seasons. Yes, they went to the Super Bowl
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both those times, and yet I'm not talking about the
last two years. And this year they got embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Embarrassed right now with you. I want to catch you
right now, Rob.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
They had a horrible game and he absolutely didn't adjust.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Nor did Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
If you know, if he were to be calling audibles
and making some adjustments on the fly, he didn't as well.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But the idea to retire, he's only sixty six.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He's only sixty six, Like he's not he's been a
seventy two to seventy three, but he's been a coach
for a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
But he's only sixty six.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Bill Belichick was getting busy at sixty six, you know
what I mean? Like I would agree with you seventy three,
seventy four start to get off.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
A look at But it's not just it's not just
based on the age.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I'm saying that maybe maybe this has become a little
stale because because of the offense. Isn't when I'm not
just screen. But what I'm saying two steps back, that's all.
I don't disagree with that. How about up somebody else
who's got some other idea.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I'm not gonna. I'm gonna. So that's why I have
a staff.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
So I start to look for a new offensive coordinator,
a new quarterback coach, a new running back coach.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I bring in other pieces.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
There's no way I'm let Andy Reig go because he
is overall, you know, running this thing, the steering the ship.
That guy has gotten us to three super Bowls in
a row. That has our team buying in, that has
our team competing, that has our team believing.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
But you gotta admit that there's been a lot of
a lot of luck for the for the Chiefs the
last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But also it ain't the same team that that. That's
what bothers them here.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
He's most offensive genius, right, That's all they're saying. This
is what happens with dynasties. So in the beginning of
the Patriots, it was defense, special teams, Tom, don't hurt us,
just you know, take care of the ball.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Then they became explosive, right because all of a sudden
they were one of the better offensive teams. They got
Randy Moss, they got Wes Welker, they got all the
tight ends, you know, Aaron Nedez and Gronk and all that,
and then it became explosive one. So this happens. You
look at the Spurs during their run. They would slow
it down, win games eighty two to seventy five.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Then that became threes.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
All who would have thought the Spurs would be leading
team league in threes and moving the ball European style.
So my point is, yes, this has been the let's
lean on our defense era of the Chiefs. Let's rely
on our defense. Play sound an all time great quarterback,
and you and and he, but and I agree.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
The offense ain't offensinging like you would hope. That ain't
no no doubkay all right, but we can tweak that.
But That's where I'm at, and either Andy has to
figure it out. Freshing up his bag of trick he
does or okay, or I got to move on.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
And normally a guy like that isn't going to isn't
going to do that, you know, And I just got
a I just got a problem with this is not
this is not a great. The reason that people weren't
behind this three P and this is I said this
to you before they lost. It didn't feel like that.
It didn't feel great. It didn't feel like, Wow, I'm
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watching something I never saw before.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It didn't feel like that. It felt stale, it felt boring.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I agree that if had they been the first iteration
of them, then.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
They will be lit man. I don't know what I'm
about to see, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
To get a buck sixty and Patrick mahoonmes, I agree
with that, but also think these are just iterations of teams.
This is how it happens. Teams have to change. They
got we went defensive, we went offensive, we went run heavily,
pactice to be better than I've seen the last tear.
And that's a fair point. And I think they have
to get fifteen and two with no uh. They got
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to this offensive line. They have to bring in weapons.
They can't just keep saying, oh, well, Patrick is good enough,
We'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
All days are over.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You gotta go get him some help. He deserves that,
to have so high quality help. But I ain't letting
any read only sixty six.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
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Speaker 4 (09:55):
The bad part is that the All Star Game is
going on this weekend, and we already know that has
been a disaster, and uh, it's just going nowhere. It's
dropping every year, we a all time low attended viewership.
It's just last year they sent in Doctor j and
Larry Bird to give them a pep talk about playing
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defense and making a count, and each team scored over
two hundred points, so that that went out the window.
Adam Silver just just nothing, has no answers for this,
but here we go.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
There's one person, and one person only who has ruined
NBA All Star weekend, and that's KATELYNK Clark. KITLYNK Clark.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Did just gonna look fun.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, yeah, And she just said I haven't even never
heard her say that word before I heard it through
the glass.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
That's all really.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Kate link Clark has ruined NBA All Star Weekend. Okay,
they they invited her to be involved in, you know,
a shooter shooting contest with Steph Right, and they were
gonna make this nice thing go and give people something
to watch. She is television ratings goal, right, everything she's in,
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the people are watching. That would have been the only
reason to watch any of the festivities this weekend. They
got a no name slam dunk contests. They got four
All Star teams with people who aren't even all stars
playing the younger people, the people they picked up off
the street, the old veterans. It's like the international like
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I don't even know, right, So they have all these things,
all these freaking gimmicks that the NBA is turned into.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And she had the goal the audacity to say no.
How can she say no.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
When the WNBA wouldn't even be around if it wasn't
for the NBA.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
They have subs dies that league forever.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Ratings this year, right, get so much money the WNBA
loss this past year fifty million even with Kaitlyn Clark
and her numbers. So the least she could have done
was done as solid for her brothers in the NBA.
She should have shown up, participated, gave them some kind
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of numbers, especially since most of the people of women
in the WNBA they aren't earning their keep. Let's just
be honest. I'm being honest. The least she could have
done was take part in that. And she has ruined
NBA All Star Weekend for me. I'm not watching one
minute because of Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Okay, I just, I mean, we came back from New Orleans,
we came back from Super Bowl Week and you just
I mean you said there's no more football. So let
me just be the thing. Let me just start with
the outlandis is Rob Parker. Kaylyn Clark is at home,
minding her own business, and she has to be the
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sole reason for you to watch the NBA All Star Weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Let's start with this.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
How about the NBA players make the All Star Weekend
something to watch. How About for the last fifty six years,
they made it something that we couldn't wait to see
the dunk contest or three point contest.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And you're telling her the NBA. She should have to
do it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
The nba't even didn't even make Lebron do it dunk
contest for the last fifteen years. You know, they didn't
do make stuff Curry, Klay Thomps and Damian Lillard and
all the best three pointer shooters do it every year.
They don't make their own best participate. You've not seen
Zion Williams in an NBA dunk contest yet. Oh, let
me keep going. You haven't seen Anthony Edwards. Oh let
me keep going. You haven't seen job Mo Rent in
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a dunk contest. But Kitlyn Clark in another league has
to all of a sudden come over here and be
super woman to save It's that part alone, I can't
believe would say when we sit up here and yell
at the NBA players for not making it something worth
our work.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
She's a part of the league that doesn't make it
need money, Yes she is.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
She, Yes they don't. They don't owe her.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
The NBA subsidizes that league, you know that. Yes, they
don't get sellout crowded unless they have fifty dollars nights.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
For fans and the n b A.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Why can't they get n B A players to not
only participate to actually play.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm not gonna blame that that moment. She is a draw.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
That woman don't have to save this league. The league
has to save themselves.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
They wanted to do something nice, include her get some.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
TV say no, she said, well, what Steph consider doing
our All Star game later in the year. So that's
another thing. She's saying, hey, come over here and Sabrina
and I unscu it. Also said at some time they
couldn't find no way to do it. They couldn't work
it out. That's why her and Steph they decided to just,
you know, do it another year or something.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Because I think the w n b A is.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Saying, hey man, we're trying our best to build up
our league to thrive in our league.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
We got they would have had actual eyeballs if if
she did it and participate paid, it would have helped
the w NBA.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
She said it would also help if Steph comes and
does it for us. STEP's not doing that, Come on,
what do you want? I'm just so she's saying, I'm
not the same reason why she didn't participate in some
other things. She also said, I don't want to be
people's guinea pigs and the thing that little you know,
uh circus act like ooh, we got you, Oh come
playing this three on three tournament?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Who come save the NBA? What she gotta do on it?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
She's had you know how long her three sixty five
has been be from the the March madness to not
playing the Summer Olympics seas.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
It's a simple shooting contest. It ain't the end of
the world. She ate doing a seven game series.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
But what, dude, probably she's probably shooting in a backyard
anyway or whatever, in a gym somewhere. What what what's
the difference? Come out and help the NBA in a
situation that day.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
They've been down, down bad. They are.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
If you're telling me, Kaitlin Clark has to come help
and save the NBA. They're down bad. This is the
black eye season right now for the NBA, by the way,
because anything that comes out is the games aren't this,
the games aren't interesting, The stars don't play. All Star
game is terrible. This is the rough patch for the
NBA and all leagues go through this. Baseball is boring.
They're doing this. The games are too long. They had
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to come in tweak NFL's concussions. It's Colin Kaepernick. Kneel
or don'tkneel. Every league has the season for a few
years where they're down a little bit. This is the
NBA's moment, and you're telling me Kaitlin Carr has to
come out here and be super Woman's matter of fact,
remember that song in the eighties, I'm not your super Well, yes.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yes, but I like when Karen White sang it, and
you can't believe that I knew that Karen White, So
I hope so.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
That was good Pool though, I give you, I'll give
you that.
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Speaker 4 (16:59):
Kelvin, Let's get the show started talking about the NBA
All Star Game and Rob G's gonna set up. There
was an interesting tweet and it had Steph Curry and
Lebron James in it, and it was talking about the
difference between the two players when it comes to the
NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's right, this tweet.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
We'll give him credit. TJ Ross whoever he is, shout
out to you forgiving it.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Oh yeah, I'll buy clothes from his place in front
of the shows. That's a combo for you, TJ. Max
and met in the middle.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
But he put out put up this tweet that got
some traction earlier today discussing All Star Weekend, and you
mentioned as a photo of Lebron and staff going head
to head. And what he's basically saying is the dunk
Contest is dead. Well, the three point Contest is thriving.
It's the only thing people care about with All Star
Weekend these days, and the reason being is that Lebron
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James killed the dunk contest by not participating, while Steph
Curry made the three point contest the hottest things in
sliced bread because he's done it several times and he's
made it appointment television.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Rob Parker, your thoughts, Yeah, you know what, I get
that tweet?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I do, okay because it is true and Steph with
the threes and being involved and whatnot, and Lebron never
doing it. All the great players had done it, you know,
at least one time. And so I do get where
that tweet's coming from. But I'm gonna disagree when you
talk about like impact on the game, because Kelvin, I'm
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dead seriously when I say this, I think Steph Curry
has done more harm to the NBA than anyone. And
I say it not that he did it on purpose
or set out to do it, do you know what
I mean? Yeah, But I think intentionally it's unintentional. But
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I could look at two things. We could talk about
the All Star Game and we could talk about NBA
basketball in general, and in both cases, Steph Curry is
the reason.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Why we aren't happy.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
We aren't happy that the NBA All Star Game is
two hundred to two hundred because nobody does anything but
take threes, right, all threes.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Two hundred to two hundred. I saw a stat somewhere
the other day, Rob G. You never saw that founder right?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Last year, Kelvin, I don't know if you showed it
to me, only three fouls were called the All Star
Game last year.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I showed you that. Did you show that to me?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I showed you that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It was like eighty something in seventy files and like
nineteen eighty five, right, and it was there.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I mean, why are officials even there? You know, save
money on officials.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And then in the NBA, we know this game turned
into a three point and that's the reason we were
all watching the same way. I don't care what anybody says,
because Steph was able to make those threes, those logo threes,
all that got a lot of people excited. And then
all the analytics geeks thought, well, everybody should shoot threes.
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Threes are better than twos. And we make more threes
and you're making twos, we're gonna beat you. Right, everybody
can't make threes. And here's the worst effect by the
Steph Curry being such a tremendous three point shooter is
that look how many bad games there are now, Calvin
with the blowouts. If you're off on the threes, it's a.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Forty point blowout. Right.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
We saw this year the Warriors lose by forty points
in San Francisco every night. There are a handful of
games that are so lopsided, and all you gotta do
is go look at the stat box right box score,
and look at the threes made and the threes missed,
and usually ninety nine percent of the time it's somebody
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having a bad knife from three. So that's why I
say Steph has done more harm to the NBA with
the three ball than Lebron is done by not participating.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So here's the I've never wanted to give somebody a
compliment followed by a telling the the reason for the
demise of something. And that's exactly what you were trying
to say there, what you were saying, and the reason
why a lot of people have to say this about Steph.
It is the ultimate compliment to him that people have
become copycats of him. But I will say I think
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he was the cherry on top rob of something that
was already brewing. And I'm gonna go analytics, so I
think he was that final straw. His greatness, his ability
to do something we'd never seen, his innovative way of
shooting threes and shooting in from places that you would
be on the bench if you shot before. But I
think this was a slow tick up to getting to
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him to finally be the straw that broke the camel's back.
Let me walk you to why I think this. If
you look at d'An toni, Mike D'Antoni, he started to
run this. Hey, get a shot out before twenty seconds
in the shot clock.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Go go go go with.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
The with the Phoenix Suns in the two thousand and four, five, six, seven,
eight nine ish era of Steve Nash, Go go, go, go,
go take a three, take a shot, fast break, and
he started the European way of doing things faster, you
get more possessions, you start to have an ability to
score more, more cracks at this thing. At the end
of the day, it's a team that has more points
in the scoreboard that wins. And it worked for the
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Suns and that they won a bunch of games. Steve
Nash won a bunch of MVPs. They didn't ultimately win
the ring, but it was worked. He was successful Coach
of the Year and it was a thing for a while,
even work when he was with the Rockets and James Harden,
Go go, go shoot threes, go fast, pace, fast piece.
So I think we started to see this thing start
to grow, grow, grow and get faster and faster. As
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far as the idea of taking threes, the idea of
taking shots that normally you wouldn't want to do, so
much so that it started to change the way the
San Antonio Spurs. They were the most grinded out beach
of eighty two to seventy eighteen. Then they started moving
the ball, they started shooting threes. They started to use
a more European, more faster style of offense. Then comes
this babyface assassin who did it better. He did it slicker,
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he did it fresher, he did it with style.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Just big shots when it mattered. But he was chewing
on his the mouthpiece.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
He started shooting threes and looking back and go walking
back before they went in. And by the way, his
team started winning and they started winning, and then he
won MVPs and then they won finals in you know,
NBA finals. So I think it was a slow build.
I think we all everybody says Steph Curry, Steph Curry,
but I think we ignore the slow build that led
to him, because now you had the perfect marriage for this,
(23:50):
because you had the numbers. The analytics. Analytics say a
three is better than two. Analytics say why take a
two a mid range two? When you get and then
you had the actual personified version of it and Steph Curry,
and then he started to be successful, and everyone else
became copycats, because what do we know in sports, their
copycat leagues. And the bad part where I would say
it's not his fault, but the thing started to become
(24:12):
ruined is that Rob. It goes down to the younger level.
So a lot of the guys you're seeing doing these
things now is because they were in high school watching him.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
And I coach my daughter's five and six year old
team a couple of.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Years back, and these kids are coming barely past half
court ball big as then Rob, chucking up half quarters,
chucking up threes, not trying to cross over like the
and one area, work on the handles, not trying to
hit the mid range like Kobe or Jordan or Larry Bird.
They're chucking up threes and six years old barely can
even do it.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
How many games have you coached where it does score
the game ended scoreless.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Any of course, Now what you're talking about because of me,
he's kid coaching old boy. I was about the boy.
I was about the matrix to this, But the zoom
don't play with me. But my point is Steph did
it so good, so well, and they won.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
That's the key part.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
If he was just doing it looking like Jordan Poole
that people are, he's just doing stuff, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Amount of winning. He actually won.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Klay Thompson actually won with shooting the three, and now
any and everybody in their mama think they can do it.
And that's the bad part because it trickles down to
the NBA, down to college and down in high school,
down to the young folks, and that's where it's hurting
the game. So it's a compliment to him that he
was so great at something that it made everyone else
think they could when they really shouldn't.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The Super Bowl is over.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
And anybody watched the game, Kelsey looks like a shell
of himself.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You can't you can't even like fake the function.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Right, So Rob g this to know stories words out
there that maybe that was it for Kelsey, right, Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Right.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
So you had NFL Network in various other outlets saying
even though Travis Kelsey said the entire lead up to
this Super Bowl that he plans on playing a couple
more years and when he was saving three years.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
More, he wants to play me more. Oh God.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
The problem was is in the immediate aftermath to the game,
Xavier Worthy, they asked him about his feelings about what happened,
and he said something to the effect of, you know
the fact that there's gonna be several guys here who
are not gonna be playing anymore, you know, makes it
hard to swallow, which people interpreted as he knows Travis
Kelse is gonna retire, right and that's that's a big
deal for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
And he made a whole and ridiculously long post like,
first of all, just just do a podcast and might
got time to be reading all that that was?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That was too long, too lengthy. He thought he was
writing for the New York Times he did. Did you
see that thing?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It was a ridiculous but my gosh, like we get it.
That's I totally gets your brother.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You love him.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But first of all, first of all, no one asked
for it, Like where did.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It come from? It's just you know.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
But with that being said, uh, Travis Kelce, absolutely, it's
just that time because it wasn't a matter of okay,
they're just not looking for him right, maybe because let's
say they had better option, but if.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
You remember earlier in the season he was non existent.
They could but like he couldn't get open right, and
he popped up for a game or two games he'd
have a flash of himself, which which great players are
gonna do. I mean, Kobe Bryant's last game he went,
I was sixty. But if you look maybe five games ago,
you'd be like, oh, it's time he did take sixty five.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
He did. I'm just saying I was there. It was
lit though. Yeah, Travis Kelsey looked old.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He looked easily defense defended, like they could defend him
very easily. His moves that he usually does doesn't work.
And again maybe because he's been there, that's what the organization.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
They love him.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
They have him in some type of Again I use
it as a basketball reference, but you Donnas haslim roll
of just you're on the team, you teach our other
guys how to be professional.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
That thing.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But him, the days of him being productive being the
security blanket for Patrick Mahomes, those are long going. And
Patrick Mahomes gonna have to find somebody. He's gonna have
to get a new blanket. You know how your little
baby loves a little blanket and carry around. He gonna
have to get a new blanket. Yeah, he's the line
of blanket right, yes, right, yep. My daughter has one. Yeah,
(02:58):
my six year old she loves. She doesn't use it
during the day, but that night or is she gonna
take a little nap? You bet gonna give a little
whe blanket. I'm like, girl, it only comes up to
you kneecaps. Now, she still got it, she loves it.
I got, but I got bigger than I got bigger
fish to front?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
All right? Who else is frying fry fish? Good me
back in New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, I'm just saying, along with Travis Kelsey, I think
this might be it was too good to be true.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
What No, I'm serious. I'm dead serious here.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Travis Kelcey should take Andy Reid with them, and Andy
Weid should step down as head coach of the Kansas
City Chiefs. And you're gonna be like, they just went
to the Super Bowl three times, Andy Reid blah blah
blah blah. Okay, Okay, So there's a couple of things
that bothered me about where where the Kansas City Chiefs are?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And just follow me. I'm listening because I've been saying this.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
This is not a one game reaction because they lost
in the Super Bowl and they got boat raced and
it was forty to six.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I don't count those last sixteen points. It was bad.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Where were the adjust where was the game plan? Not
even I'm not a football coach. Guys who are football
coaches and questioned the game plan, no running game to
start at all, and then you get behind, you gotta pass.
This is what he did in Philadelphia, all the time,
pass happy, always throwing the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
They got tired of that in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Number two, This fall off the cliff is two years
in the making. Last year they won the Super Bowl,
so it kind of covered up how bad things were.
You remember with the receivers and the struggles and Patrick Mahomes.
Here's another year. Andy Reid is supposed to be an
offensive genius. Why is Patrick Mahomes struggling so much when
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you can't figure out a way to get him off
and to get him to be not fifty touchdowns and
throwing every ball down field, but way better? Can you
admit that Patrick Mahomes hasn't been the same quarterback the
last two years? And I'm trying to figure out Andy
Reid is supposed to be that guy, and yet.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We haven't seen it.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Where was the adjustment at all to say, dude, they're
coming with four, we gotta do something else. We gotta
figure out something, something's open if they're coming, you know
what I mean. Or we got to figure out something.
Get the ball out quick. Hey dude, this have a
max protect We need to do something and set up
(05:28):
something to shake that up a little bit, have a
big play to where they have to feel a little
more concerned. It never came. Yeah, it never came. So
I'm just looking at it. It's been a nice run,
but think about it. The last two years have been
disappointing regular seasons. Yes, they went to the Super Bowl
(05:51):
both those times, and yet I'm not talking about the
last two years. And this year they got embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Embarrassed right now with you. I want to catch you
right now, Rob.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
They had a horrible game and he absolutely didn't adjust.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Nor did Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
If you know, if he were to be calling audibles
and making some adjustments on the fly, he didn't as well.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But the idea to retire, he's only sixty six.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He's only sixty six, Like he's not he's been a
seventy two to seventy three, but he's been a coach
for a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
But he's only sixty six.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Bill Belichick was getting busy at sixty six, you know
what I mean? Like I would agree with you seventy three,
seventy four start to get off.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
A look at But it's not just it's not just
based on the age.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I'm saying that maybe maybe this has become a little
stale because because of the offense. Isn't when I'm not
just screen. But what I'm saying two steps back, that's all.
I don't disagree with that. How about up somebody else
who's got some other idea.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I'm not gonna. I'm gonna. So that's why I have
a staff.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
So I start to look for a new offensive coordinator,
a new quarterback coach, a new running back coach.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I bring in other pieces.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
There's no way I'm let Andy Reig go because he
is overall, you know, running this thing, the steering the ship.
That guy has gotten us to three super Bowls in
a row. That has our team buying in, that has
our team competing, that has our team believing.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
But you gotta admit that there's been a lot of
a lot of luck for the for the Chiefs the
last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But also it ain't the same team that that. That's
what bothers them here.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
He's most offensive genius, right, That's all they're saying. This
is what happens with dynasties. So in the beginning of
the Patriots, it was defense, special teams, Tom, don't hurt us,
just you know, take care of the ball.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Then they became explosive, right because all of a sudden
they were one of the better offensive teams. They got
Randy Moss, they got Wes Welker, they got all the
tight ends, you know, Aaron Nedez and Gronk and all that,
and then it became explosive one. So this happens. You
look at the Spurs during their run. They would slow
it down, win games eighty two to seventy five.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Then that became threes.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
All who would have thought the Spurs would be leading
team league in threes and moving the ball European style.
So my point is, yes, this has been the let's
lean on our defense era of the Chiefs. Let's rely
on our defense. Play sound an all time great quarterback,
and you and and he, but and I agree.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
The offense ain't offensinging like you would hope. That ain't
no no doubkay all right, but we can tweak that.
But That's where I'm at, and either Andy has to
figure it out. Freshing up his bag of trick he
does or okay, or I got to move on.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
And normally a guy like that isn't going to isn't
going to do that, you know, And I just got
a I just got a problem with this is not
this is not a great. The reason that people weren't
behind this three P and this is I said this
to you before they lost. It didn't feel like that.
It didn't feel great. It didn't feel like, Wow, I'm
(08:49):
watching something I never saw before.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It didn't feel like that. It felt stale, it felt boring.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I agree that if had they been the first iteration
of them, then.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
They will be lit man. I don't know what I'm
about to see, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
To get a buck sixty and Patrick mahoonmes, I agree
with that, but also think these are just iterations of teams.
This is how it happens. Teams have to change. They
got we went defensive, we went offensive, we went run heavily,
pactice to be better than I've seen the last tear.
And that's a fair point. And I think they have
to get fifteen and two with no uh. They got
(09:29):
to this offensive line. They have to bring in weapons.
They can't just keep saying, oh, well, Patrick is good enough,
We'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
All days are over.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You gotta go get him some help. He deserves that,
to have so high quality help. But I ain't letting
any read only sixty six.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
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Speaker 4 (09:55):
The bad part is that the All Star Game is
going on this weekend, and we already know that has
been a disaster, and uh, it's just going nowhere. It's
dropping every year, we a all time low attended viewership.
It's just last year they sent in Doctor j and
Larry Bird to give them a pep talk about playing
(10:15):
defense and making a count, and each team scored over
two hundred points, so that that went out the window.
Adam Silver just just nothing, has no answers for this,
but here we go.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
There's one person, and one person only who has ruined
NBA All Star weekend, and that's KATELYNK Clark. KITLYNK Clark.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Did just gonna look fun.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, yeah, And she just said I haven't even never
heard her say that word before I heard it through
the glass.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
That's all really.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Kate link Clark has ruined NBA All Star Weekend. Okay,
they they invited her to be involved in, you know,
a shooter shooting contest with Steph Right, and they were
gonna make this nice thing go and give people something
to watch. She is television ratings goal, right, everything she's in,
(11:15):
the people are watching. That would have been the only
reason to watch any of the festivities this weekend. They
got a no name slam dunk contests. They got four
All Star teams with people who aren't even all stars
playing the younger people, the people they picked up off
the street, the old veterans. It's like the international like
(11:36):
I don't even know, right, So they have all these things,
all these freaking gimmicks that the NBA is turned into.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And she had the goal the audacity to say no.
How can she say no.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
When the WNBA wouldn't even be around if it wasn't
for the NBA.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
They have subs dies that league forever.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Ratings this year, right, get so much money the WNBA
loss this past year fifty million even with Kaitlyn Clark
and her numbers. So the least she could have done
was done as solid for her brothers in the NBA.
She should have shown up, participated, gave them some kind
(12:23):
of numbers, especially since most of the people of women
in the WNBA they aren't earning their keep. Let's just
be honest. I'm being honest. The least she could have
done was take part in that. And she has ruined
NBA All Star Weekend for me. I'm not watching one
minute because of Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Okay, I just, I mean, we came back from New Orleans,
we came back from Super Bowl Week and you just
I mean you said there's no more football. So let
me just be the thing. Let me just start with
the outlandis is Rob Parker. Kaylyn Clark is at home,
minding her own business, and she has to be the
(13:06):
sole reason for you to watch the NBA All Star Weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Let's start with this.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
How about the NBA players make the All Star Weekend
something to watch. How About for the last fifty six years,
they made it something that we couldn't wait to see
the dunk contest or three point contest.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And you're telling her the NBA. She should have to
do it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
The nba't even didn't even make Lebron do it dunk
contest for the last fifteen years. You know, they didn't
do make stuff Curry, Klay Thomps and Damian Lillard and
all the best three pointer shooters do it every year.
They don't make their own best participate. You've not seen
Zion Williams in an NBA dunk contest yet. Oh, let
me keep going. You haven't seen Anthony Edwards. Oh let
me keep going. You haven't seen job Mo Rent in
(13:44):
a dunk contest. But Kitlyn Clark in another league has
to all of a sudden come over here and be
super woman to save It's that part alone, I can't
believe would say when we sit up here and yell
at the NBA players for not making it something worth
our work.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
She's a part of the league that doesn't make it
need money, Yes she is.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
She, Yes they don't. They don't owe her.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
The NBA subsidizes that league, you know that. Yes, they
don't get sellout crowded unless they have fifty dollars nights.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
For fans and the n b A.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Why can't they get n B A players to not
only participate to actually play.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm not gonna blame that that moment. She is a draw.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
That woman don't have to save this league. The league
has to save themselves.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
They wanted to do something nice, include her get some.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
TV say no, she said, well, what Steph consider doing
our All Star game later in the year. So that's
another thing. She's saying, hey, come over here and Sabrina
and I unscu it. Also said at some time they
couldn't find no way to do it. They couldn't work
it out. That's why her and Steph they decided to just,
you know, do it another year or something.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Because I think the w n b A is.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Saying, hey man, we're trying our best to build up
our league to thrive in our league.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
We got they would have had actual eyeballs if if
she did it and participate paid, it would have helped
the w NBA.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
She said it would also help if Steph comes and
does it for us. STEP's not doing that, Come on,
what do you want? I'm just so she's saying, I'm
not the same reason why she didn't participate in some
other things. She also said, I don't want to be
people's guinea pigs and the thing that little you know,
uh circus act like ooh, we got you, Oh come
playing this three on three tournament?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Who come save the NBA? What she gotta do on it?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
She's had you know how long her three sixty five
has been be from the the March madness to not
playing the Summer Olympics seas.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
It's a simple shooting contest. It ain't the end of
the world. She ate doing a seven game series.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
But what, dude, probably she's probably shooting in a backyard
anyway or whatever, in a gym somewhere. What what what's
the difference? Come out and help the NBA in a
situation that day.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
They've been down, down bad. They are.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
If you're telling me, Kaitlin Clark has to come help
and save the NBA. They're down bad. This is the
black eye season right now for the NBA, by the way,
because anything that comes out is the games aren't this,
the games aren't interesting, The stars don't play. All Star
game is terrible. This is the rough patch for the
NBA and all leagues go through this. Baseball is boring.
They're doing this. The games are too long. They had
(16:09):
to come in tweak NFL's concussions. It's Colin Kaepernick. Kneel
or don'tkneel. Every league has the season for a few
years where they're down a little bit. This is the
NBA's moment, and you're telling me Kaitlin Carr has to
come out here and be super Woman's matter of fact,
remember that song in the eighties, I'm not your super Well, yes.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yes, but I like when Karen White sang it, and
you can't believe that I knew that Karen White, So
I hope so.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
That was good Pool though, I give you, I'll give
you that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
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Speaker 4 (16:59):
Kelvin, Let's get the show started talking about the NBA
All Star Game and Rob G's gonna set up. There
was an interesting tweet and it had Steph Curry and
Lebron James in it, and it was talking about the
difference between the two players when it comes to the
NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's right, this tweet.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
We'll give him credit. TJ Ross whoever he is, shout
out to you forgiving it.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Oh yeah, I'll buy clothes from his place in front
of the shows. That's a combo for you, TJ. Max
and met in the middle.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
But he put out put up this tweet that got
some traction earlier today discussing All Star Weekend, and you
mentioned as a photo of Lebron and staff going head
to head. And what he's basically saying is the dunk
Contest is dead. Well, the three point Contest is thriving.
It's the only thing people care about with All Star
Weekend these days, and the reason being is that Lebron
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James killed the dunk contest by not participating, while Steph
Curry made the three point contest the hottest things in
sliced bread because he's done it several times and he's
made it appointment television.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Rob Parker, your thoughts, Yeah, you know what, I get
that tweet?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I do, okay because it is true and Steph with
the threes and being involved and whatnot, and Lebron never
doing it. All the great players had done it, you know,
at least one time. And so I do get where
that tweet's coming from. But I'm gonna disagree when you
talk about like impact on the game, because Kelvin, I'm
(18:35):
dead seriously when I say this, I think Steph Curry
has done more harm to the NBA than anyone. And
I say it not that he did it on purpose
or set out to do it, do you know what
I mean? Yeah, But I think intentionally it's unintentional. But
(18:56):
I could look at two things. We could talk about
the All Star Game and we could talk about NBA
basketball in general, and in both cases, Steph Curry is
the reason.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Why we aren't happy.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
We aren't happy that the NBA All Star Game is
two hundred to two hundred because nobody does anything but
take threes, right, all threes.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Two hundred to two hundred. I saw a stat somewhere
the other day, Rob G. You never saw that founder right?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Last year, Kelvin, I don't know if you showed it
to me, only three fouls were called the All Star
Game last year.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I showed you that. Did you show that to me?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I showed you that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It was like eighty something in seventy files and like
nineteen eighty five, right, and it was there.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I mean, why are officials even there? You know, save
money on officials.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And then in the NBA, we know this game turned
into a three point and that's the reason we were
all watching the same way. I don't care what anybody says,
because Steph was able to make those threes, those logo threes,
all that got a lot of people excited. And then
all the analytics geeks thought, well, everybody should shoot threes.
(20:17):
Threes are better than twos. And we make more threes
and you're making twos, we're gonna beat you. Right, everybody
can't make threes. And here's the worst effect by the
Steph Curry being such a tremendous three point shooter is
that look how many bad games there are now, Calvin
with the blowouts. If you're off on the threes, it's a.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Forty point blowout. Right.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
We saw this year the Warriors lose by forty points
in San Francisco every night. There are a handful of
games that are so lopsided, and all you gotta do
is go look at the stat box right box score,
and look at the threes made and the threes missed,
and usually ninety nine percent of the time it's somebody
(21:05):
having a bad knife from three. So that's why I
say Steph has done more harm to the NBA with
the three ball than Lebron is done by not participating.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So here's the I've never wanted to give somebody a
compliment followed by a telling the the reason for the
demise of something. And that's exactly what you were trying
to say there, what you were saying, and the reason
why a lot of people have to say this about Steph.
It is the ultimate compliment to him that people have
become copycats of him. But I will say I think
(21:37):
he was the cherry on top rob of something that
was already brewing. And I'm gonna go analytics, so I
think he was that final straw. His greatness, his ability
to do something we'd never seen, his innovative way of
shooting threes and shooting in from places that you would
be on the bench if you shot before. But I
think this was a slow tick up to getting to
(21:58):
him to finally be the straw that broke the camel's back.
Let me walk you to why I think this. If
you look at d'An toni, Mike D'Antoni, he started to
run this. Hey, get a shot out before twenty seconds
in the shot clock.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Go go go go with.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
The with the Phoenix Suns in the two thousand and four, five, six, seven,
eight nine ish era of Steve Nash, Go go, go, go,
go take a three, take a shot, fast break, and
he started the European way of doing things faster, you
get more possessions, you start to have an ability to
score more, more cracks at this thing. At the end
of the day, it's a team that has more points
in the scoreboard that wins. And it worked for the
(22:33):
Suns and that they won a bunch of games. Steve
Nash won a bunch of MVPs. They didn't ultimately win
the ring, but it was worked. He was successful Coach
of the Year and it was a thing for a while,
even work when he was with the Rockets and James Harden,
Go go, go shoot threes, go fast, pace, fast piece.
So I think we started to see this thing start
to grow, grow, grow and get faster and faster. As
(22:56):
far as the idea of taking threes, the idea of
taking shots that normally you wouldn't want to do, so
much so that it started to change the way the
San Antonio Spurs. They were the most grinded out beach
of eighty two to seventy eighteen. Then they started moving
the ball, they started shooting threes. They started to use
a more European, more faster style of offense. Then comes
this babyface assassin who did it better. He did it slicker,
(23:21):
he did it fresher, he did it with style.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Just big shots when it mattered. But he was chewing
on his the mouthpiece.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
He started shooting threes and looking back and go walking
back before they went in. And by the way, his
team started winning and they started winning, and then he
won MVPs and then they won finals in you know,
NBA finals. So I think it was a slow build.
I think we all everybody says Steph Curry, Steph Curry,
but I think we ignore the slow build that led
to him, because now you had the perfect marriage for this,
(23:50):
because you had the numbers. The analytics. Analytics say a
three is better than two. Analytics say why take a
two a mid range two? When you get and then
you had the actual personified version of it and Steph Curry,
and then he started to be successful, and everyone else
became copycats, because what do we know in sports, their
copycat leagues. And the bad part where I would say
it's not his fault, but the thing started to become
(24:12):
ruined is that Rob. It goes down to the younger level.
So a lot of the guys you're seeing doing these
things now is because they were in high school watching him.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
And I coach my daughter's five and six year old
team a couple of.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Years back, and these kids are coming barely past half
court ball big as then Rob, chucking up half quarters,
chucking up threes, not trying to cross over like the
and one area, work on the handles, not trying to
hit the mid range like Kobe or Jordan or Larry Bird.
They're chucking up threes and six years old barely can
even do it.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
How many games have you coached where it does score
the game ended scoreless.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Any of course, Now what you're talking about because of me,
he's kid coaching old boy. I was about the boy.
I was about the matrix to this, But the zoom
don't play with me. But my point is Steph did
it so good, so well, and they won.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
That's the key part.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
If he was just doing it looking like Jordan Poole
that people are, he's just doing stuff, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Amount of winning. He actually won.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Klay Thompson actually won with shooting the three, and now
any and everybody in their mama think they can do it.
And that's the bad part because it trickles down to
the NBA, down to college and down in high school,
down to the young folks, and that's where it's hurting
the game. So it's a compliment to him that he
was so great at something that it made everyone else
think they could when they really shouldn't.
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