February 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Rob and Kelvin open Hour 2 giving their overall thoughts on the new-look All-Star format. While the overall reviews have been mixed, what do the guys think about how it all played out? What would they change? MLB super agent Scott Boras joins the show to give his unique insight on some of the biggest storylines from around the major leagues.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcasts. Be sure
to check us out live every weekday from four to
seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern on Fox
Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple
on Fox Sports Radio dot Com, or stream us every
day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Get this Parties.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Radio our number two on a Magic City Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You knew it was coming.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You know what that was your body saying I need
a big go No I missed my big goat.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Where was my process, sugar?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I had.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I had hot wings and they're so hot. That's that's
what I just had.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's why, man, what is going on? They ran out?
They were marked down, so I bought the hot wings.
Come on, Alex, you're thrown with the hotways that they're
mark downalds. What I need to know? No, you know
when they get close to the sale date. You know
what I mean. They weren't expired or anything, but I
was choking on that. That's why I needed sea Watch.
Get your waters bilingual? Did you? Alex? I had a
(01:16):
glizzy in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Just take it gets you take your time, all right,
we need you for two more hours.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
At least. At least that's it, all right.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It is the odd couple, Rob Parker, kelvin Washington, coming
to you live from the tire Rack dot Com studios.
And you're listening to us now. But you can see
us on television. You can watch us on any kind
of viewing device, that's right. Be sure to check out
the Fox Sports Radio YouTube mugs.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Man, I don't know about all that, but just search
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
You know you're a TV guy on YouTube and you'll
see a whole bunch of video highlights from our other shows.
Be sure to subscribe so that you always have instant
access to our videos.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Don't forget coming up in about twenty seven minutes.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
The biggest agent in sports history yep, at least contract wise,
Scott Boris is right, some big money who got Wow,
seven hundred and sixty five million dollars sound I sound
White Sodo And remember one solo turned down the four
hundred and forty million with somebody told him I was
a fool too.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Right I did, I did. I'm gonna say it to Scott.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
The craziest part is is not that your role like
who that sound yes, you won.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You made it. We've got four hundred million.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, my biggest thing was what if you get hit
in the face and you don't, you're not.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The same hitter?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Like that's real, Like anything, right, anything can happen Squeak
and me and never quite be the same. So we'll
talk to him about some baseball stuff and all kinds
of stuff. But let's get back to the All Star
weekend in the new format and whether or not you
were cool with it, which was the the teams that
only played up to forty.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
There was a lot of stuff to dislike and that
was one of them.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Why forty and then the teams were waiting around for
seventeen minutes. Some of the guys were complaining, you know,
you cooled down, yep, right, like you're playing. I got
to sit around for seventeen minutes by waiting to play again.
There was a lot of issues there. What were some
of the takeaways and what bothered you because.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
There was just a lot Hey, Ian, how long we
got for this segment?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No, right, man.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Let me start by saying, this was a Dwight Howard
at the free throw line, miss rob. This whole All
Star situation, this was Remember when Eddie Murphy had a
cold run and he put out a movie called Adventures
of Pluto Nash. It was a miss like that. It
was a miss like Aaron Judge in April sixty three.
October Sorry, I'm sorry for me.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I don't care. No, you're right.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
In October two, I was gonna stall them out about
its October, but he was like bad in October two.
Here's the thing, Rob, First of all, let's go back
to the young rising stars.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I'm a blame. After you do your thing, I'm going
to blame who are you blaming? The commissioner. He's really
get on Alm Silver. Let me just get these out there.
You can put them out. I'm silvering them out.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
The thing that makes the All Star Game great is
you're seeing the best planet, the twelve best players on
the planet, and they're competing at a high level. We're
seeing tricks and players we don't ever see the first half.
Then they lock it down and have fun. This was
when it was at its peak, right and we're seeing
a competitive game that we know is in a playoff game.
But it was incredible.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You got to take some highlights in the first half
and then they had a good competitive second half. That's
at its peak, that's how it's supposed to be. Well,
we got a bunch of guys who aren't all stars,
got rising stars. We don't even know the names. So
this is coming off the night. We don't know the
names of the dunk contest. Coming off the night with
the three point contest, Damian Lillard, who was trying to
three p yawning.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
They got a shot of him. I don't know if
you guys saw that.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They're like, coming on the next bring out of his
mouth literally yawning on camera. You had the whole night
where Chuck ENnie, Chuck, Kenny Ernie and Shack normally don't miss.
That was really awkward because they could tell they were like,
we need you guys to feel more feel more time.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So Kevin Hart's trying to be funny when it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
He's talking during the game, Yo, stop shooting threes and
get the game. You see Jaylen Brown goes he says, man,
start the blinking game. You can see Jaylen Brown say that, like, ma,
what is all the jokes?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Let's get the game. It was it was very rough, yes,
and it was so that made it awkward forty points.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I did not pay my however much to go see
Steph Curry or lebron didn't play, but you know lebron
kd Kevin Kyrie or all these the ogs play for
forty points.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I want to see a guys singularly get forty points, right,
Not I say he score two hundred, but a buck
forty to buck thirty. And it's a game. And I
saw amazing things. We didn't even get a chance. Steph
Curry won the MVP with twelve.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Points, right, That's what That's the point, well point, it
made no sense. And that's why even Draymond Green, who
I disagree with a lot of stuff with Draymond, he
had the nerve to say it right on television, right yeah,
and say a that it was boring.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And then they asked him.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
About the new format or whatever, yeah, and the changes
into the All Star game, and they said, from zero
to ten, what would you give it?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
And here we go.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
You work all year to be an All Star and
you get to play up to forty and then you're done.
This is so unfair to Victor win Miyama, who just
took this game really seriously, Shay Gilgers Alexander who just
took this game really seriously. When you talk about chasing
after the points records, Mellow Kobe and all these guys
who've had great staring knights, they don't get the opportunity
to do that with this game.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Also, we can watch some rising stars. We're about to
watch the Olympic team. Now we get to treat of
watching the Olympic team play against a U nineteen team.
Come on, what are we doing all of one to ten?
Your thoughts of the format?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Ten being the best? Yes, A zero sucks. He sucks.
A zero.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I'm sure the boss had TNT loved every minute of it.
Adam Silver, you got a little extra money to put
in Draymond's pay envelope at the end of the week. Man, seriously,
but Adam Silver is to blame. He really is. You've
heard me yelling bellyache about how he's the worst commissioner.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
He is the worst commissioner.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Every time you think this game can't get worse, it's worse.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And you talk to and we've had.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Hunter Patterson on it was there in San Francisco, empty
seats and sections, people not wanting to pay big top
dollars San Francisco, every ticket. They were probably overpriced area, yeah, exactly,
And people were like, oh no, this thing is boring
and terrible and I'm not paying eight hundred dollars for
(07:50):
nose bleeds or some bad seat, uh to be able
to watch this. And this is where the commissioner has
really let down the fandom, let down the fans. He
really has, and you could talk about it. I don't
know what the ratings were not yet, Steve. We don't
have any ratings yet. But they can't be good. No,
(08:13):
they can't be And the other thing, there's just so
many things wrong. We just need to get back to
the idea. And it's a simple one. This is a
part of your job description. That's what you do. We
sell the game. Everybody's at home on that Sunday night.
It's February. There's no football, there's no baseball, there's nothing
(08:38):
going on but us, and we give you such a
crappy product that people would rather turn away and not watch.
How is that possible? It should be a ratings bonanza.
While we're doing this. We're celebrating the great old players,
we're talking about the new players. We're gonna watch a fun,
exciting game. Go back up like you said early on,
(09:01):
and in the second half, let's win this bad boy.
We want to win it for the East. We want
to win it for the West, or whatever it is.
It's a part of your damn job subscription the description
to promote the game. Stop with this whole idea that
because you got paid, you don't need to do anything
since win.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
You just led me to something. I want to break
it down. First, is to echo something I remember not
when I was a little. I remember being a kid,
but I also remember being probably Ian's age, and you
would catch up with the friends man as, order some pizzas,
watch the All Star game. You know, for me, my
era was like the late nineties early two thousand, mintwo
like it was because you knew it was gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
You knew it was gonna be entire ears when they
had laces on the ball. But yeah, I was gonna
bring it up.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You know, I don't know if y'all could order food
back then, y'all had to get on the horse and
carriage and go get it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But you knew you were gonna enjoy this.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Man, I was gonna see Kobe going at T Matt,
going at Kevin Garnett, going at Duncan, going at Chris Webber,
going at Shaq, going at Allen Iverson, Stefan Marlbury, going
at it And I think I figured out a part
of this.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Allow me to break this down for you, Rob.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I think another culprit for the last ten twelve years
of why things have changed.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Couple of things.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I think everybody in the young age having those personalized
trainers where everything is individualized for them. I'm only working
on my game. I'm only working on this. It's about me,
It's about what I'm doing. It's about me. And then
losing the idea of what matters with teams. It's about
AAU teams or all they do is I'm a play
up so my name gets out there. You can be
(10:29):
on these teams. We can have social media followings. What
can you do my thing on YouTube? And all of
these players are these younger players are better at social
media and like doing their thing on their page and
their brand. Then understanding the collective. I think the collective
has been lost. The only reason why y'all getting paid
twenty thirty forty million is because we have a bunch
(10:51):
of fans domestically internationally who love the game. You owe
that to the fans to give them something for a
night to hoop. We're not even asking to do any
other than anything you already do. And this this idea
where we get this from about injury. I'm still waiting.
Give me the list of great players who got hurt
in all you want and watch this, I'll name you
(11:11):
the one. And then one who got hurt loved it.
Kobe Bryant got smacked and got elbowed, remember by d
Wade on a hard file because they were playing so seriously,
and Kobe loved it because they're like, yo, we're going
to add it. I'm going to add the But I'm
just saying so like that's the only one I can
think about.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I can remember in the Baseball All Star Game, Ray
Fossey was a catcher who was bowled over by Pete
Rose like like like at a collision at home plate,
which right, that's like that was an All Star game,
Pete Rose going to slide head first into home and
an all.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Competitive rob I think the I think these young guys
have lost the understanding of the collective. We are all
better when we all give it all, not just my
individual skill set, not just my individual brand, not just
my individual social media followers, but the collective. And they
forgot It's like they it's about me, and that's what
this generation. It's not their fault in the sense of
(12:07):
that's what the last one.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
People don't understand though, and.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Adults are like that, who aren't even athletes, Like that's
just what we've gotten.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's become so individualized. Me me, me, me, follow me,
my cout looking.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
They forgot, yo, The brand is the league is what's
making this when we all need this.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And people forget you're too young.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
But I remember when the NBA was on tape delay,
the NBA Finals. I used to watch the late local
news in New York and the sports cancer was Warner
Wolf growing up, and he would go, all right, if
you're gonna watch the NBA Finals Game three coming up
after the news, Uh, turn right, and I'll hold up
(12:49):
the score, like so you didn't tell you didn't spoil
it because it was on tape delay. That's what happened
to the league. It got to that point where fans
were turned off. There were all kinds of issues, drug issues,
all kinds of stuff. People didn't think that the players cared,
and and fans got turned off, and CBS didn't want
to put the games on prime time. They had their
(13:11):
regular lineup of TV shows, and then at eleven thirty
after the news.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
They were actually brought Caunty the NBA Finals. It's crazy,
So it can happen.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
And that's my point is, don't think fans can't turn
on you. It can happen if you continue to disrespect
respect the fan base. All right, eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox. And maybe you liked it, Maybe we're
the old game, maybe wrong. Maybe you liked the new format.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I mean there was a ten ounce ten percent difference
in competitiveness.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'll give them that.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So but forty points was a winner of forty points, Rob.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yep, So we want to hear from you.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven,
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
The NBA format changes, blown off, La, What did you like?
Say it? We want you to spell it out on
what did you not like? All that? And much more?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It is the odd couple on the Magic City Monday,
Rob Parker, kelvin Washington right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Stick and stay.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
If Draymond speaks some truth and maybe Caitlin Clark could help,
that's right, and maybe dougul talk Lebron about it too.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Fox Sports Radio A Couple Robin Kelvin on a Magic
City Monday President's Dates. Well, we are live, that's right,
We're just spot So how can we prove it is live?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It is uh five three on the West? Is that
how I can do that? I'll prove it to him?
All right?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So we have Scott Boris, maybe the biggest agent in
all of the world sports agent can ready to join
us here in about seven minutes or so. Looking forward
to hearing some of his thoughts on what's the moves
that we've seen during the MLB and a lot of
the moves were his moves. Right now, we're talking about
All Star weekend changes the NBA. Your thoughts on those?
Broadcasting line from the Tireck dot Com studios. Tireck dot
(15:16):
Com is gonna help you get their unmatch election of
fast free shipping. Free Road has in protection ten thousand
recommending installers eight seven, seven ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
On Fox who we got all right, let's kick it off.
Jim in Florida. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
What's up, Jim, Guys, I love the show.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Thank you, appreciate you. Jim.
Speaker 9 (15:35):
I can fix everything. I can fix it all, trust me.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Awesome me. What you got.
Speaker 9 (15:41):
You give the winning player on the winning team five million,
and you give the losing player on the losing team
five thousands. I swear to God, you're gonna have players,
maybe not Lebron, maybe not step You're gonna get everyone
else playing their ass off.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's a shame that you have to do that for
fifty sixty I hear you. We should have to do that. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
That's again, So Jim to the people that are working
ups per like that. I got to give you an
extra five million for to do your Johnny five forty
eight minutes to do your job, five million dollars and celebrate.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
The game and and uh the fans together about the game.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
John and Vegas. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up John?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Hey, guys, great great transmission from Nome to the new
guys here real quick. That's my birthday, Michael Jordan's birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
The problem man, happy birthday. Trying to slide past that
happy birthday.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
John, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
These guys are all too friendly and to NAU. They
grow up together. They all brought to each other. You know,
you don't you need they need to bring the game
back and let.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
Them foul somewhere and let that hostility get into it.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
And then we'll see the game change a little bit.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
These guys are going to be buddies and let these throings,
you know, walk up and down the court. Let's shoot
a three.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
No, let's play I know you know what, John spot on.
And that's the problem. I always tell it's a scenario
in Detroit where people wanted to be the best player,
Like I want to be the best AAU player or
the best basketball player in the city. Now the three
best players all play on the same team, beat up everybody,
and then because they don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's just it's just completely sat You don't want to
go at guys, I'm the real number one you guys.
They used to have to prove themselves. These kids know
who they are, like twelve, they already got YouTube paid.
We've been following Zion since he was like thirteen. Andrew
Wigins was like thirteen.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
James and Rancho Cucamonga hero and Ike. That's right in California.
You're on the Eye couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What's up you guys?
Speaker 11 (17:42):
Love your show?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Thank you, Jameson.
Speaker 11 (17:44):
It's a disrespect to the fans. I spent money on
wings and pizza half the fellow though. We cut that.
We cut that stuff off and start playing Domino. See
you respect your fans, you know what I mean? Give
us something we want to see where I gotta I
shouldn't have to cut the TV off and bite people.
We got to cut off and start playing down Load
with you boys. Love youco, have a great day.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Appreciate you. That's real though. You know.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
The thing man come through. Got some wings going to
lady cooking this yah? Matt, Yeah, Jason and Seattle. You're
on the eyd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
What's up Jason, Hey, guys, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No problem.
Speaker 10 (18:23):
Hey, you know you guys know man athletes are prideful
and their competitives, So you got to tap into that,
and these guys will go out and they'll put on
a show. Because you know, most of these athletes, it
doesn't matter if they're playing pool or whatever they're playing,
they want to win. And that's why we used to
see the second half of these games. They want to
(18:44):
win that MVP, and so you give them that chance
to to, you know, put on a show and then
work hard and get that MVP. You know, I think
we should just go back to doing that because I
think what happened was like in the nineties, We're used
to seeing these teams, these NBA teams play hard nosed defense,
(19:04):
you know, throughout the whole season, and then they get
to the All Star Game and they're putting up one
hundred and forty points, right yes, and so then it
was like, oh, okay, this is get boring. But nowadays,
you know, regular games are putting up one hundred and
twenty one hundred and thirty points, So I don't think
that would matter anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah, it just seemed like, Jason, they are uninterested and
they don't want to play for the call.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I don't even think the younger guys like the I
don't think they know how to be that competitive.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You don't mean, like find that balance of life.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I've always said having fun at the beginning, and I
don't think they genuinely.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Know how to.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I'm always like, I'm competitive from the standpoint. If we're
keeping score, I want to win. There's no score, and
we're just playing out softball and there's no score and
it's just having fun, that's fine, but nobody I want
to win. I'm with you, all right, Andre in Massachusetts.
You're on the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
What's up, dray, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 12 (19:57):
Thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Listen for me.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
If you're a basketball Oh God, did you like that?
Speaker 12 (20:02):
I liked it very much because we actually saw competition.
I saw my first closed out in All Star Game
since the early two thousands. I saw steels, I saw
a deflection, I saw turnovers. You know, the guys were
actually showing effort. You know, James Harden playing a little
bit of defense, did he get beat up some straight
lines rids? Yet, particularly in the young stars versus the veterans,
(20:25):
you could see that the veterans they did not want
to be shown up by the young guys and the
young guys wanted to take that opportunity on the big stage,
and so for the NBA, I certainly credit them because
that was so much better than the absolute layup lines
that we've had the last couple of years.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Were literally just.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Going, you're in the minority.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I'm at because the gameplay, all the time outs, only
going to forty switching teams. I'm watching rising stars and
I'm watching europe teams and I'm watching a random another team.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I don't even know who they were. Is the team?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
And oh do you go? You go for the Thanks Andre,
for the All Star. You expect the best.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I just want to see the twelve guys I know, no,
no other twelve guys.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That's all I want to see.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
All right, coming out, YEPS, coming up, we got Scott Boris,
MLB sports agent, really the biggest maybe biggest sports agent
all of sports. We'll have a conversation about him. What's
been happening in MLB. Looking forward to that, But right
now is what's trending with Steve A Saga.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
Hey, Steve, Hello, and as a basketball fan, last night
had precious little basketball. Can we just emphasize that's your product?
NBA can we get a little more Hoopsta guy boys?
MVP of the All Star Game played eleven minutes in
the finale.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It's ridiculous, Steve, absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I was blown away, Steve, to be honest with I
was like, what did I just watch?
Speaker 8 (21:39):
Meanwhile, a great hockey tournament is going on and it
switches to Boston today. Canada advance to Thursday's final with
a five to three victory over Finland, and tonight the
US two and ozer is already out to a one
nothing lead on Sweden in the opening minute. In fact,
they scored in literally the opening one minute of this game.
This is the four Nations face off, which had been
in Montreal's in Boston. Now backup Jay Ottinger starting in
(22:03):
goal for the US. It will be a Canada USA
Championship game on Thursday night. That is statistically guaranteed. The
NHL's off for almost two weeks until this Saturday. No
NHL All Star Game this year, this instead, and then
the Winter Olympics with NHL players in hockey a one
year from now. In Italy, the NBA is off until
Wednesday's makeup game Hornets at Lakers in men's college basketball.
(22:27):
Number three ranked Duke leads at Virginia twenty seven to
fourteen in the first half. Auburn is ranked number one
for the sixth straight week. Florida up to number two
women's hoops. New number one Notre Dame has beaten number
eleven Dukes sixty four to forty nine. Mike Trout of
the Angels is switching to right field to try to
stay healthy this year. The A's gave manager Mark Kottse
a three year extension with an option for twenty twenty nine.
(22:49):
The Diamondbacks have given shortstop Geraldo Perdomo a four year
contract extension. The Padres invited veteran first baseman Julie Guriel
to spring training. All star Rafael Devers of the Red
Sox says he does not want to give up his
third base position after Boston's recent signing of Alex Bregman
and one NFL note, the Bengals planned a franchise tag
(23:09):
wide receiver T Higgins again this year if they can't
sign him to a long term deal in the next
two weeks. And guys, it turned out there was a
college baseball game yesterday. Attendance only two seventeen, but those
in attendance saw Rhode Island win at William and Mary
thirty six to twenty two.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yesterday, what they plant that was the All Star game
plan that Wrigley to win was blowing.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
Yeah, Mike Schmidt in the tenth inning. No, actually this
this was only seven innings because there was a ten
run mercy.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Rule and crazy apparently.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Also yesterday Indiana State won a college baseball game thirty
six to six over Wagner.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Back to you, is each home run worth three? What's
going on there?
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Rhode Island actually didn't just bat around. They sent twenty
three men to the plate in one of the innings
and scored seventeen times in the top of the fifth.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
And now that pitch sure is gonna be pitching for
the Angels this year.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Sounds about right. So no more playof again, another year
with our playoffs for Mike. All right, Thank you so much, Steve,
appreciate you. It is the yat Coup of Robert Kelvin
on the Magic City Monday, and we're coming to you
love from the Tireck dot Com studios, and we're joined
right now by MLB super Sports agent Scott Boris. You
can Boris core on Twitter. Scott, it's great to have
(24:23):
you on. How you doing.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
What's up? Scott? Yes, doing great. Appreciate you taking some time.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Out one hundred percent definitely, you know I wanted to
talk to you. And let's start with, of course, Ajan
Soto and his deal with the New York Metropolitans seven
hundred and sixty five million.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I just got two things Scott.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
First, when he turned down the four forty in Washington,
I thought he was absolutely crazy that someone gets offered
a half a billion dollars, fully guaranteed, not a fake
NFL contract, not a funny two way NBA contract. But
you you know, all the way he bet on himself,
how shocked or surprised that one show he signed for
(25:07):
seven hundred I never thought anybody would be higher than that,
that he got more than show.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Well, going into this the element of we have to
give one a lot of credit because we had, I
believe since he was eighteen years old on We've had
sixty eight meetings, and certainly after we finished with the Mets,
(25:34):
one looked at me and goes, can we just tone
that down a little bit. But it's a lot of information,
a lot of preliminary market data, a lot of historical data.
We have a thing in baseball called surplus value, which
is a value gradient that we use, and we developed
one that I did with based upon my representation of
(25:56):
Bonds and a Rod and their skill sets and what
they did and why, so that we could really get
to him and say, these are the valuative points we
look at. And when a player goes through that, particularly
an international player, you can imagine the number of people,
which is the vast, vast majority, that say to one,
(26:18):
how could you turn down four hundred and forty million dollars?
And the answer is, he's getting all this information from
us about prospective values, markets, franchise values, revenues, the sport,
and really what his valuation is going to be as
he goes on in his career in year four or
five and six before he's a free agent, and then
(26:39):
when Otani signed, and his real evaluation is at a
four hundred and sixty million dollars evaluation. That's that's what
the contract. There's a lot of it makes two million
a year for ten years and then gets paid it
much later, but the real evaluation was around that. So
everyone came to one said you don't pitch. Otani's an
(27:04):
extraordinary player. In addition to that, he generates, you know,
hundreds of millions of dollars of revenue for his team.
You don't do that. So your chances of getting before
fifty or four sixty that that Otani got are you know,
it's just not something you're going to be able to achieve.
(27:26):
Will you get as much as you got from Washington?
He had to hear that for almost a full year,
you know, in and of itself, and you know it's
I give him a lot of credit. He trusted our information,
our advice, and ask a lot of questions, well if
Otani's why didn't Otani get what he was worth? Or
(27:49):
all these things which are all the elements of how
we look at markets and evaluations. And essentially he trusted
our data and the information and as it worked out
his credit. He was able to focus on playing and
played at a very high level, and then we had
(28:11):
a very strategic negotiation to arrive at really a true
expression of his market.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Now, Scott, I'll say this, he's a great player. He
could play anywhere. That transfers to anywhere. When you're great
and you're a dynamic player, But it looked like the
Bronx was perfect. Dominicans loved him there, you know, like
what the right field porch, He had a career high
(28:40):
and home runs. The Yankees made it to the World Series.
There was a lot to like there, the lineup and whatnot.
And I get it. The Yankees offered seven sixty the
Mets offered seven sixty five, and the Mets offered the
Yankees had offered what.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
An extra year? Scott?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Right, So it's a different amount of money spread out
over the years. Right, the Yankees added one more year
than the Mets did. But how difficult does that when
you know, take a player who has excelled and seem
to fit in a in a circumstance or team.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Could you know this?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
The Mets and Yankees aren't the same, even though they're
in the same city, they're not.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
What goes into that, Scott, Well, my.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Job is to provide information. In the end, you know
who was providing one with the economic appraisal, not only
those two teams, but you know many others. And in
each case one had to dismiss teams. I teased him
because he had uncles and his mother and everyone involved.
(29:42):
I called it the Supreme Court of Soto. I would
give him the information, he would go back, and what
I cared about was the baseball execution information. And he
had a you know, a near eleven hundred ops at
City Field, he played well at Yankee Stadium. We wanted
(30:02):
to cover the fact of execution and doing it in
optimal places, and he had choices there and as far
as what works best for him and his family, the
ability of an owner to support a winning roster was
very important to one because he wanted to win during
the fifteen years of this contract. So all those things
(30:26):
were considered by him. But in the end, when you
go to make these decisions, the key point what you do.
I think in being I think in being a former player,
you understand how you play and what makes you comfortable.
I trust that one knows that, and he certainly expressed it,
and also being around his family and giving us direction.
(30:48):
I wanted them to make that decision. And he certainly
looked at all that information, and you know, we spent
a lot a lot of time covering it. Called me
on the phone and said, look go ahead and work
the final with the Mets. And we all think as
(31:09):
a family that it's best for us to do so.
So I certainly trusted in that it was very informed
and has been very methodical about his decision making, and
so we went and executed the contract to get down
with the Mets.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
He is Scott Boris molb sports agent and really one
of the biggest, if not the biggest, in all the
sports Scott joining nowt couple Robin Kelvin.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Scott, let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
You mentioned it earlier, the deferment money, and that's something
that Shohail Tani's done a lot of Dodgers in the league.
The Dodgers are saying, hey, we'll get you two three
a year. On the back end, there's just sixty eight
seventy million a We've heard recently where the commissioners started
to kind of toss around the idea of some time
with salary cap because people are saying this isn't fair.
(31:54):
Other teams, including Yankee saying this isn't fair of all
the teams. Scott, but how do what are your thoughts
on the FIRMA you think it's okay they get fined,
is it level in the playing field or is it
not fair? And we will eventually lead to a salary cap.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Well, I think the point of it is is that
how are salary caps working well? In the NFL we
had a a lockout in twenty eleven, in the NBA
they had a lockout. In the NHL they had one
of their all cap elements, And how is it working
in competition? Well, the NFL, even riggers are schedule and
they still have two of the last three years the
(32:31):
same Super Bowl teams. You have four or five one
team in the Super Bowl four to five times. Because
if anything, salary caps are supposed to promote parody, well
they're not working. So the only thing salary caps really
do is provide ownership with a greater economic purpose than
they would otherwise. So when you're talking about deferrals, deferrals
(32:52):
are a method of what is the appraisal of the
player's value, you know, And I realized that they give
some funny money as we call it later in the future.
But Otani's contract is worth four hundred and fifty million dollars.
Who said the league says it? The players Union says
that because of the fact that there's a net present
value that you would use about how you appraise it,
(33:14):
and so deferral is something that is merely a mechanism
that helps flexibility or whatever. Because every team in baseball
uses it, every team has the opportunity to use it,
there is no unfairness about it. And the point of
it is, like when I did Blake Snell's contract with
Andrew and the Dodgers, you know, we got at the
(33:36):
time a record signing bonus until we did once but
of like fifty something million dollars, and they also deferred
an equivalent amount for future years, and that made the
net present value of the contract for our purposes to
be fair for the player, because that, in the end
is the valuation is is what is that player's work.
And when you look at the Dodgers, their contracts for
(33:59):
Hernandez serve our key day are for really anyone they signed.
They're not above market contracts. They're not paying valuations for
players that are in any way any different than what
any other team is paying. So they did. If you
had a situation where one team was paying dramatically more
(34:22):
for players than others, you would say, well, then they
have this decisive advantage. But keep in mind that our
game has gone up in revenues every year, record revenues
last year, record revenues this year.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Last year was twelve point one billion dollars for baseball.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yes, and the issue is that we have a situation
where ownership is same, but what are we doing with salaries. Well,
this year in twenty five, the sal amount of money
spent on players is going to be the same as
twenty four. It didn't go up by ten percent like
the revenues. And so the idea of it is, we've
had fifteen teams that lowered their payroll from the prior
(35:05):
year even though they had record revenues. We have six
teams that aren't even spending a one hundred million even
though they have record revenues. So when you look at
all this and you're saying that there is some sort
of element in the game, the truth of the matter
is is that the NBA TV contract just illustrated something.
(35:27):
Is that the people that controlled streaming, which was the
end to cable because of the handhelds, well, Major League
Baseball developed that MLB band developed it. Instead of licensing it,
they sold it, and in doing so they kept dealing
and have long term contracts with cable companies knowing that
the form of doing business with them was changing, and
(35:51):
that preempted them from a market that they should have
had access two years before. The NBA, on the other hand,
who to give you an example in Milwaukee have lower
ratings than the Brewers the Bucks do. The Bucks have
play only half the games of the Brewers, Yet the
media contract, the amount of revenues that the Brewers make
(36:16):
is only half of what the Buck gets, and the
revenues in the NBA are nearly double over MLB, which
tells me that the issue with revenues it isn't about
a salary cap or labor costs. It is about how
we're negotiating for media rights. We need to have effective
negotiations to where it's obvious that we have double the
(36:37):
content that and we should have a greater media rights
valuation than the NBA, which would bring a lot more
value both in franchise value and revenues to the owners.
So that is how we correct It's a revenue problem.
It is not a salary cap or a labor cost problem.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Hey, Scott, last thing, we got a minute to go hereo.
Going back to the METS, I thought he got job
the two year contract for just fifty four million dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Very few players. This guy plays every day.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
He knows how to play in New York under the pressure,
hit some of the biggest home runs in the postseason.
And they didn't have that seven hundred and sixty five
million dollars for Juan Soto but only fifty four million
for one of their own. How tough was that for
him to go back to the Mets and for that contract.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Well, the truth of it is is that when you
are a thirty year old player in our game and
you have a qualifying offer, meaning that you have to
give up draft picks and international money, major league teams
do not want to do that. They'll do it for
a twenty six year old or a twenty seven year
old or other, but they won't do it for a
thirty year old. And I've had issues with Matts, with Snell,
(37:49):
with Matt Chapman, and now pene Alonzo with Bregman. They
don't want to do the long term contracts for those.
But the next year when they're free agents, then they
get the true free agent value and the market because
they are truly free there's no draft picks given up,
and the clubs will then go out and pay their value.
So the system is working to where they have a
(38:12):
restricted free agency, which Pete was under because of the
qualifying offer. And you also see people talking to me,
why are these players signed so late? Because teams go
after players that are true free agents where they don't
have to give away the draft picks, and they approach
last in the mark at the teams where they have
to give away the draft picks to sign the players.
(38:34):
So the meth obviously because he was his team of origin,
didn't have to give up draft picks, and all the
other teams involved did not bid for Pete because, after all,
they all say, why would I ever give up draft
picks when the reward of that is getting anywhere from
thirty four to fifty home runs and having a player
with one thousand ops who has key home runs in
(38:55):
the postseason. I won't do that till next year. That's
kind of what they said.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Scott Man, it's been a pleasure learn so much. Dot
got boris the great agents. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
We appreciate you. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
All right, Draymond had some stuff to say. We'll get
to that in just a little bit. It is the
odd couple. Rob Kelvin, Fox Sports Radio Raymond.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
You two.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Fox Sports Radio A couple Rob Kelvin, that was pretty
cool man here Scott Boris break down so much. Check
out the podcast if you didn't hear to get a
chance to hear that. All right, we're coming to you
live from the tire rack dot Com studios tire rack
dot com.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I'm gonna help you get there.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
An unmassed election, fast re shipping, free road hazard protection,
over ten thousand recommend installers, ti rack dot com the
way tire binding should be up.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Next, Draymond has some stuff. Rob de saone's talking big time.
We need to dissect that. And I got news for him.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
They ain't winning the championship, like Raimon said, But we'll
talk about that in much guaranteed it the guaranteed it
was guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, guarantee was right. Draymond's wrong. We'll tell you about it.
Fox Sports right.
Speaker 7 (40:15):
Hell
Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcasts. Be sure
to check us out live every weekday from four to
seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern on Fox
Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple
on Fox Sports Radio dot Com, or stream us every
day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Get this Parties.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Radio our number two on a Magic City Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You knew it was coming.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You know what that was your body saying I need
a big go No I missed my big goat.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Where was my process, sugar?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I had.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I had hot wings and they're so hot. That's that's
what I just had.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's why, man, what is going on? They ran out?
They were marked down, so I bought the hot wings.
Come on, Alex, you're thrown with the hotways that they're
mark downalds. What I need to know? No, you know
when they get close to the sale date. You know
what I mean. They weren't expired or anything, but I
was choking on that. That's why I needed sea Watch.
Get your waters bilingual? Did you? Alex? I had a
(01:16):
glizzy in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Just take it gets you take your time, all right,
we need you for two more hours.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
At least. At least that's it, all right.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It is the odd couple, Rob Parker, kelvin Washington, coming
to you live from the tire Rack dot Com studios.
And you're listening to us now. But you can see
us on television. You can watch us on any kind
of viewing device, that's right. Be sure to check out
the Fox Sports Radio YouTube mugs.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Man, I don't know about all that, but just search
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
You know you're a TV guy on YouTube and you'll
see a whole bunch of video highlights from our other shows.
Be sure to subscribe so that you always have instant
access to our videos.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Don't forget coming up in about twenty seven minutes.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
The biggest agent in sports history yep, at least contract wise,
Scott Boris is right, some big money who got Wow,
seven hundred and sixty five million dollars sound I sound
White Sodo And remember one solo turned down the four
hundred and forty million with somebody told him I was
a fool too.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Right I did, I did. I'm gonna say it to Scott.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
The craziest part is is not that your role like
who that sound yes, you won.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You made it. We've got four hundred million.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, my biggest thing was what if you get hit
in the face and you don't, you're not.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The same hitter?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Like that's real, Like anything, right, anything can happen Squeak
and me and never quite be the same. So we'll
talk to him about some baseball stuff and all kinds
of stuff. But let's get back to the All Star
weekend in the new format and whether or not you
were cool with it, which was the the teams that
only played up to forty.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
There was a lot of stuff to dislike and that
was one of them.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Why forty and then the teams were waiting around for
seventeen minutes. Some of the guys were complaining, you know,
you cooled down, yep, right, like you're playing. I got
to sit around for seventeen minutes by waiting to play again.
There was a lot of issues there. What were some
of the takeaways and what bothered you because.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
There was just a lot Hey, Ian, how long we
got for this segment?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No, right, man.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Let me start by saying, this was a Dwight Howard
at the free throw line, miss rob. This whole All
Star situation, this was Remember when Eddie Murphy had a
cold run and he put out a movie called Adventures
of Pluto Nash. It was a miss like that. It
was a miss like Aaron Judge in April sixty three.
October Sorry, I'm sorry for me.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I don't care. No, you're right.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
In October two, I was gonna stall them out about
its October, but he was like bad in October two.
Here's the thing, Rob, First of all, let's go back
to the young rising stars.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I'm a blame. After you do your thing, I'm going
to blame who are you blaming? The commissioner. He's really
get on Alm Silver. Let me just get these out there.
You can put them out. I'm silvering them out.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
The thing that makes the All Star Game great is
you're seeing the best planet, the twelve best players on
the planet, and they're competing at a high level. We're
seeing tricks and players we don't ever see the first half.
Then they lock it down and have fun. This was
when it was at its peak, right and we're seeing
a competitive game that we know is in a playoff game.
But it was incredible.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You got to take some highlights in the first half
and then they had a good competitive second half. That's
at its peak, that's how it's supposed to be. Well,
we got a bunch of guys who aren't all stars,
got rising stars. We don't even know the names. So
this is coming off the night. We don't know the
names of the dunk contest. Coming off the night with
the three point contest, Damian Lillard, who was trying to
three p yawning.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
They got a shot of him. I don't know if
you guys saw that.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They're like, coming on the next bring out of his
mouth literally yawning on camera. You had the whole night
where Chuck ENnie, Chuck, Kenny Ernie and Shack normally don't miss.
That was really awkward because they could tell they were like,
we need you guys to feel more feel more time.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So Kevin Hart's trying to be funny when it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
He's talking during the game, Yo, stop shooting threes and
get the game. You see Jaylen Brown goes he says, man,
start the blinking game. You can see Jaylen Brown say that, like, ma,
what is all the jokes?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Let's get the game. It was it was very rough, yes,
and it was so that made it awkward forty points.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I did not pay my however much to go see
Steph Curry or lebron didn't play, but you know lebron
kd Kevin Kyrie or all these the ogs play for
forty points.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I want to see a guys singularly get forty points, right,
Not I say he score two hundred, but a buck
forty to buck thirty. And it's a game. And I
saw amazing things. We didn't even get a chance. Steph
Curry won the MVP with twelve.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Points, right, That's what That's the point, well point, it
made no sense. And that's why even Draymond Green, who
I disagree with a lot of stuff with Draymond, he
had the nerve to say it right on television, right yeah,
and say a that it was boring.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And then they asked him.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
About the new format or whatever, yeah, and the changes
into the All Star game, and they said, from zero
to ten, what would you give it?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
And here we go.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
You work all year to be an All Star and
you get to play up to forty and then you're done.
This is so unfair to Victor win Miyama, who just
took this game really seriously, Shay Gilgers Alexander who just
took this game really seriously. When you talk about chasing
after the points records, Mellow Kobe and all these guys
who've had great staring knights, they don't get the opportunity
to do that with this game.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Also, we can watch some rising stars. We're about to
watch the Olympic team. Now we get to treat of
watching the Olympic team play against a U nineteen team.
Come on, what are we doing all of one to ten?
Your thoughts of the format?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Ten being the best? Yes, A zero sucks. He sucks.
A zero.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I'm sure the boss had TNT loved every minute of it.
Adam Silver, you got a little extra money to put
in Draymond's pay envelope at the end of the week. Man, seriously,
but Adam Silver is to blame. He really is. You've
heard me yelling bellyache about how he's the worst commissioner.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
He is the worst commissioner.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Every time you think this game can't get worse, it's worse.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And you talk to and we've had.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Hunter Patterson on it was there in San Francisco, empty
seats and sections, people not wanting to pay big top
dollars San Francisco, every ticket. They were probably overpriced area, yeah, exactly,
And people were like, oh no, this thing is boring
and terrible and I'm not paying eight hundred dollars for
(07:50):
nose bleeds or some bad seat, uh to be able
to watch this. And this is where the commissioner has
really let down the fandom, let down the fans. He
really has, and you could talk about it. I don't
know what the ratings were not yet, Steve. We don't
have any ratings yet. But they can't be good. No,
(08:13):
they can't be And the other thing, there's just so
many things wrong. We just need to get back to
the idea. And it's a simple one. This is a
part of your job description. That's what you do. We
sell the game. Everybody's at home on that Sunday night.
It's February. There's no football, there's no baseball, there's nothing
(08:38):
going on but us, and we give you such a
crappy product that people would rather turn away and not watch.
How is that possible? It should be a ratings bonanza.
While we're doing this. We're celebrating the great old players,
we're talking about the new players. We're gonna watch a fun,
exciting game. Go back up like you said early on,
(09:01):
and in the second half, let's win this bad boy.
We want to win it for the East. We want
to win it for the West, or whatever it is.
It's a part of your damn job subscription the description
to promote the game. Stop with this whole idea that
because you got paid, you don't need to do anything
since win.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
You just led me to something. I want to break
it down. First, is to echo something I remember not
when I was a little. I remember being a kid,
but I also remember being probably Ian's age, and you
would catch up with the friends man as, order some pizzas,
watch the All Star game. You know, for me, my
era was like the late nineties early two thousand, mintwo
like it was because you knew it was gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
You knew it was gonna be entire ears when they
had laces on the ball. But yeah, I was gonna
bring it up.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You know, I don't know if y'all could order food
back then, y'all had to get on the horse and
carriage and go get it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But you knew you were gonna enjoy this.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Man, I was gonna see Kobe going at T Matt,
going at Kevin Garnett, going at Duncan, going at Chris Webber,
going at Shaq, going at Allen Iverson, Stefan Marlbury, going
at it And I think I figured out a part
of this.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Allow me to break this down for you, Rob.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I think another culprit for the last ten twelve years
of why things have changed.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Couple of things.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I think everybody in the young age having those personalized
trainers where everything is individualized for them. I'm only working
on my game. I'm only working on this. It's about me,
It's about what I'm doing. It's about me. And then
losing the idea of what matters with teams. It's about
AAU teams or all they do is I'm a play
up so my name gets out there. You can be
(10:29):
on these teams. We can have social media followings. What
can you do my thing on YouTube? And all of
these players are these younger players are better at social
media and like doing their thing on their page and
their brand. Then understanding the collective. I think the collective
has been lost. The only reason why y'all getting paid
twenty thirty forty million is because we have a bunch
(10:51):
of fans domestically internationally who love the game. You owe
that to the fans to give them something for a
night to hoop. We're not even asking to do any
other than anything you already do. And this this idea
where we get this from about injury. I'm still waiting.
Give me the list of great players who got hurt
in all you want and watch this, I'll name you
(11:11):
the one. And then one who got hurt loved it.
Kobe Bryant got smacked and got elbowed, remember by d
Wade on a hard file because they were playing so seriously,
and Kobe loved it because they're like, yo, we're going
to add it. I'm going to add the But I'm
just saying so like that's the only one I can
think about.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I can remember in the Baseball All Star Game, Ray
Fossey was a catcher who was bowled over by Pete
Rose like like like at a collision at home plate,
which right, that's like that was an All Star game,
Pete Rose going to slide head first into home and
an all.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Competitive rob I think the I think these young guys
have lost the understanding of the collective. We are all
better when we all give it all, not just my
individual skill set, not just my individual brand, not just
my individual social media followers, but the collective. And they
forgot It's like they it's about me, and that's what
this generation. It's not their fault in the sense of
(12:07):
that's what the last one.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
People don't understand though, and.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Adults are like that, who aren't even athletes, Like that's
just what we've gotten.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's become so individualized. Me me, me, me, follow me,
my cout looking.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
They forgot, yo, The brand is the league is what's
making this when we all need this.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And people forget you're too young.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
But I remember when the NBA was on tape delay,
the NBA Finals. I used to watch the late local
news in New York and the sports cancer was Warner
Wolf growing up, and he would go, all right, if
you're gonna watch the NBA Finals Game three coming up
after the news, Uh, turn right, and I'll hold up
(12:49):
the score, like so you didn't tell you didn't spoil
it because it was on tape delay. That's what happened
to the league. It got to that point where fans
were turned off. There were all kinds of issues, drug issues,
all kinds of stuff. People didn't think that the players cared,
and and fans got turned off, and CBS didn't want
to put the games on prime time. They had their
(13:11):
regular lineup of TV shows, and then at eleven thirty
after the news.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
They were actually brought Caunty the NBA Finals. It's crazy,
So it can happen.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
And that's my point is, don't think fans can't turn
on you. It can happen if you continue to disrespect
respect the fan base. All right, eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox. And maybe you liked it, Maybe we're
the old game, maybe wrong. Maybe you liked the new format.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I mean there was a ten ounce ten percent difference
in competitiveness.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'll give them that.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So but forty points was a winner of forty points, Rob.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yep, So we want to hear from you.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven,
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
The NBA format changes, blown off, La, What did you like?
Say it? We want you to spell it out on
what did you not like? All that? And much more?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It is the odd couple on the Magic City Monday,
Rob Parker, kelvin Washington right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Stick and stay.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
If Draymond speaks some truth and maybe Caitlin Clark could help,
that's right, and maybe dougul talk Lebron about it too.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Fox Sports Radio A Couple Robin Kelvin on a Magic
City Monday President's Dates. Well, we are live, that's right,
We're just spot So how can we prove it is live?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It is uh five three on the West? Is that
how I can do that? I'll prove it to him?
All right?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So we have Scott Boris, maybe the biggest agent in
all of the world sports agent can ready to join
us here in about seven minutes or so. Looking forward
to hearing some of his thoughts on what's the moves
that we've seen during the MLB and a lot of
the moves were his moves. Right now, we're talking about
All Star weekend changes the NBA. Your thoughts on those?
Broadcasting line from the Tireck dot Com studios. Tireck dot
(15:16):
Com is gonna help you get their unmatch election of
fast free shipping. Free Road has in protection ten thousand
recommending installers eight seven, seven ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
On Fox who we got all right, let's kick it off.
Jim in Florida. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
What's up, Jim, Guys, I love the show.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Thank you, appreciate you. Jim.
Speaker 9 (15:35):
I can fix everything. I can fix it all, trust me.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Awesome me. What you got.
Speaker 9 (15:41):
You give the winning player on the winning team five million,
and you give the losing player on the losing team
five thousands. I swear to God, you're gonna have players,
maybe not Lebron, maybe not step You're gonna get everyone
else playing their ass off.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's a shame that you have to do that for
fifty sixty I hear you. We should have to do that. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
That's again, So Jim to the people that are working
ups per like that. I got to give you an
extra five million for to do your Johnny five forty
eight minutes to do your job, five million dollars and celebrate.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
The game and and uh the fans together about the game.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
John and Vegas. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up John?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Hey, guys, great great transmission from Nome to the new
guys here real quick. That's my birthday, Michael Jordan's birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
The problem man, happy birthday. Trying to slide past that
happy birthday.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
John, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
These guys are all too friendly and to NAU. They
grow up together. They all brought to each other. You know,
you don't you need they need to bring the game
back and let.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
Them foul somewhere and let that hostility get into it.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
And then we'll see the game change a little bit.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
These guys are going to be buddies and let these throings,
you know, walk up and down the court. Let's shoot
a three.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
No, let's play I know you know what, John spot on.
And that's the problem. I always tell it's a scenario
in Detroit where people wanted to be the best player,
Like I want to be the best AAU player or
the best basketball player in the city. Now the three
best players all play on the same team, beat up everybody,
and then because they don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's just it's just completely sat You don't want to
go at guys, I'm the real number one you guys.
They used to have to prove themselves. These kids know
who they are, like twelve, they already got YouTube paid.
We've been following Zion since he was like thirteen. Andrew
Wigins was like thirteen.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
James and Rancho Cucamonga hero and Ike. That's right in California.
You're on the Eye couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What's up you guys?
Speaker 11 (17:42):
Love your show?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Thank you, Jameson.
Speaker 11 (17:44):
It's a disrespect to the fans. I spent money on
wings and pizza half the fellow though. We cut that.
We cut that stuff off and start playing Domino. See
you respect your fans, you know what I mean? Give
us something we want to see where I gotta I
shouldn't have to cut the TV off and bite people.
We got to cut off and start playing down Load
with you boys. Love youco, have a great day.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Appreciate you. That's real though. You know.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
The thing man come through. Got some wings going to
lady cooking this yah? Matt, Yeah, Jason and Seattle. You're
on the eyd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
What's up Jason, Hey, guys, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No problem.
Speaker 10 (18:23):
Hey, you know you guys know man athletes are prideful
and their competitives, So you got to tap into that,
and these guys will go out and they'll put on
a show. Because you know, most of these athletes, it
doesn't matter if they're playing pool or whatever they're playing,
they want to win. And that's why we used to
see the second half of these games. They want to
(18:44):
win that MVP, and so you give them that chance
to to, you know, put on a show and then
work hard and get that MVP. You know, I think
we should just go back to doing that because I
think what happened was like in the nineties, We're used
to seeing these teams, these NBA teams play hard nosed defense,
(19:04):
you know, throughout the whole season, and then they get
to the All Star Game and they're putting up one
hundred and forty points, right yes, and so then it
was like, oh, okay, this is get boring. But nowadays,
you know, regular games are putting up one hundred and
twenty one hundred and thirty points, So I don't think
that would matter anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah, it just seemed like, Jason, they are uninterested and
they don't want to play for the call.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I don't even think the younger guys like the I
don't think they know how to be that competitive.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You don't mean, like find that balance of life.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I've always said having fun at the beginning, and I
don't think they genuinely.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Know how to.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I'm always like, I'm competitive from the standpoint. If we're
keeping score, I want to win. There's no score, and
we're just playing out softball and there's no score and
it's just having fun, that's fine, but nobody I want
to win. I'm with you, all right, Andre in Massachusetts.
You're on the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
What's up, dray, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 12 (19:57):
Thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Listen for me.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
If you're a basketball Oh God, did you like that?
Speaker 12 (20:02):
I liked it very much because we actually saw competition.
I saw my first closed out in All Star Game
since the early two thousands. I saw steels, I saw
a deflection, I saw turnovers. You know, the guys were
actually showing effort. You know, James Harden playing a little
bit of defense, did he get beat up some straight
lines rids? Yet, particularly in the young stars versus the veterans,
(20:25):
you could see that the veterans they did not want
to be shown up by the young guys and the
young guys wanted to take that opportunity on the big stage,
and so for the NBA, I certainly credit them because
that was so much better than the absolute layup lines
that we've had the last couple of years.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Were literally just.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Going, you're in the minority.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I'm at because the gameplay, all the time outs, only
going to forty switching teams. I'm watching rising stars and
I'm watching europe teams and I'm watching a random another team.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I don't even know who they were. Is the team?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
And oh do you go? You go for the Thanks Andre,
for the All Star. You expect the best.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I just want to see the twelve guys I know, no,
no other twelve guys.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That's all I want to see.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
All right, coming out, YEPS, coming up, we got Scott Boris,
MLB sports agent, really the biggest maybe biggest sports agent
all of sports. We'll have a conversation about him. What's
been happening in MLB. Looking forward to that, But right
now is what's trending with Steve A Saga.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
Hey, Steve, Hello, and as a basketball fan, last night
had precious little basketball. Can we just emphasize that's your product?
NBA can we get a little more Hoopsta guy boys?
MVP of the All Star Game played eleven minutes in
the finale.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It's ridiculous, Steve, absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I was blown away, Steve, to be honest with I
was like, what did I just watch?
Speaker 8 (21:39):
Meanwhile, a great hockey tournament is going on and it
switches to Boston today. Canada advance to Thursday's final with
a five to three victory over Finland, and tonight the
US two and ozer is already out to a one
nothing lead on Sweden in the opening minute. In fact,
they scored in literally the opening one minute of this game.
This is the four Nations face off, which had been
in Montreal's in Boston. Now backup Jay Ottinger starting in
(22:03):
goal for the US. It will be a Canada USA
Championship game on Thursday night. That is statistically guaranteed. The
NHL's off for almost two weeks until this Saturday. No
NHL All Star Game this year, this instead, and then
the Winter Olympics with NHL players in hockey a one
year from now. In Italy, the NBA is off until
Wednesday's makeup game Hornets at Lakers in men's college basketball.
(22:27):
Number three ranked Duke leads at Virginia twenty seven to
fourteen in the first half. Auburn is ranked number one
for the sixth straight week. Florida up to number two
women's hoops. New number one Notre Dame has beaten number
eleven Dukes sixty four to forty nine. Mike Trout of
the Angels is switching to right field to try to
stay healthy this year. The A's gave manager Mark Kottse
a three year extension with an option for twenty twenty nine.
(22:49):
The Diamondbacks have given shortstop Geraldo Perdomo a four year
contract extension. The Padres invited veteran first baseman Julie Guriel
to spring training. All star Rafael Devers of the Red
Sox says he does not want to give up his
third base position after Boston's recent signing of Alex Bregman
and one NFL note, the Bengals planned a franchise tag
(23:09):
wide receiver T Higgins again this year if they can't
sign him to a long term deal in the next
two weeks. And guys, it turned out there was a
college baseball game yesterday. Attendance only two seventeen, but those
in attendance saw Rhode Island win at William and Mary
thirty six to twenty two.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yesterday, what they plant that was the All Star game
plan that Wrigley to win was blowing.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
Yeah, Mike Schmidt in the tenth inning. No, actually this
this was only seven innings because there was a ten
run mercy.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Rule and crazy apparently.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Also yesterday Indiana State won a college baseball game thirty
six to six over Wagner.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Back to you, is each home run worth three? What's
going on there?
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Rhode Island actually didn't just bat around. They sent twenty
three men to the plate in one of the innings
and scored seventeen times in the top of the fifth.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
And now that pitch sure is gonna be pitching for
the Angels this year.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Sounds about right. So no more playof again, another year
with our playoffs for Mike. All right, Thank you so much, Steve,
appreciate you. It is the yat Coup of Robert Kelvin
on the Magic City Monday, and we're coming to you
love from the Tireck dot Com studios, and we're joined
right now by MLB super Sports agent Scott Boris. You
can Boris core on Twitter. Scott, it's great to have
(24:23):
you on. How you doing.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
What's up? Scott? Yes, doing great. Appreciate you taking some time.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Out one hundred percent definitely, you know I wanted to
talk to you. And let's start with, of course, Ajan
Soto and his deal with the New York Metropolitans seven
hundred and sixty five million.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I just got two things Scott.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
First, when he turned down the four forty in Washington,
I thought he was absolutely crazy that someone gets offered
a half a billion dollars, fully guaranteed, not a fake
NFL contract, not a funny two way NBA contract. But
you you know, all the way he bet on himself,
how shocked or surprised that one show he signed for
(25:07):
seven hundred I never thought anybody would be higher than that,
that he got more than show.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Well, going into this the element of we have to
give one a lot of credit because we had, I
believe since he was eighteen years old on We've had
sixty eight meetings, and certainly after we finished with the Mets,
(25:34):
one looked at me and goes, can we just tone
that down a little bit. But it's a lot of information,
a lot of preliminary market data, a lot of historical data.
We have a thing in baseball called surplus value, which
is a value gradient that we use, and we developed
one that I did with based upon my representation of
(25:56):
Bonds and a Rod and their skill sets and what
they did and why, so that we could really get
to him and say, these are the valuative points we
look at. And when a player goes through that, particularly
an international player, you can imagine the number of people,
which is the vast, vast majority, that say to one,
(26:18):
how could you turn down four hundred and forty million dollars?
And the answer is, he's getting all this information from
us about prospective values, markets, franchise values, revenues, the sport,
and really what his valuation is going to be as
he goes on in his career in year four or
five and six before he's a free agent, and then
(26:39):
when Otani signed, and his real evaluation is at a
four hundred and sixty million dollars evaluation. That's that's what
the contract. There's a lot of it makes two million
a year for ten years and then gets paid it
much later, but the real evaluation was around that. So
everyone came to one said you don't pitch. Otani's an
(27:04):
extraordinary player. In addition to that, he generates, you know,
hundreds of millions of dollars of revenue for his team.
You don't do that. So your chances of getting before
fifty or four sixty that that Otani got are you know,
it's just not something you're going to be able to achieve.
(27:26):
Will you get as much as you got from Washington?
He had to hear that for almost a full year,
you know, in and of itself, and you know it's
I give him a lot of credit. He trusted our information,
our advice, and ask a lot of questions, well if
Otani's why didn't Otani get what he was worth? Or
(27:49):
all these things which are all the elements of how
we look at markets and evaluations. And essentially he trusted
our data and the information and as it worked out
his credit. He was able to focus on playing and
played at a very high level, and then we had
(28:11):
a very strategic negotiation to arrive at really a true
expression of his market.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Now, Scott, I'll say this, he's a great player. He
could play anywhere. That transfers to anywhere. When you're great
and you're a dynamic player, But it looked like the
Bronx was perfect. Dominicans loved him there, you know, like
what the right field porch, He had a career high
(28:40):
and home runs. The Yankees made it to the World Series.
There was a lot to like there, the lineup and whatnot.
And I get it. The Yankees offered seven sixty the
Mets offered seven sixty five, and the Mets offered the
Yankees had offered what.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
An extra year? Scott?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Right, So it's a different amount of money spread out
over the years. Right, the Yankees added one more year
than the Mets did. But how difficult does that when
you know, take a player who has excelled and seem
to fit in a in a circumstance or team.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Could you know this?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
The Mets and Yankees aren't the same, even though they're
in the same city, they're not.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
What goes into that, Scott, Well, my.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Job is to provide information. In the end, you know
who was providing one with the economic appraisal, not only
those two teams, but you know many others. And in
each case one had to dismiss teams. I teased him
because he had uncles and his mother and everyone involved.
(29:42):
I called it the Supreme Court of Soto. I would
give him the information, he would go back, and what
I cared about was the baseball execution information. And he
had a you know, a near eleven hundred ops at
City Field, he played well at Yankee Stadium. We wanted
(30:02):
to cover the fact of execution and doing it in
optimal places, and he had choices there and as far
as what works best for him and his family, the
ability of an owner to support a winning roster was
very important to one because he wanted to win during
the fifteen years of this contract. So all those things
(30:26):
were considered by him. But in the end, when you
go to make these decisions, the key point what you do.
I think in being I think in being a former player,
you understand how you play and what makes you comfortable.
I trust that one knows that, and he certainly expressed it,
and also being around his family and giving us direction.
(30:48):
I wanted them to make that decision. And he certainly
looked at all that information, and you know, we spent
a lot a lot of time covering it. Called me
on the phone and said, look go ahead and work
the final with the Mets. And we all think as
(31:09):
a family that it's best for us to do so.
So I certainly trusted in that it was very informed
and has been very methodical about his decision making, and
so we went and executed the contract to get down
with the Mets.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
He is Scott Boris molb sports agent and really one
of the biggest, if not the biggest, in all the
sports Scott joining nowt couple Robin Kelvin.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Scott, let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
You mentioned it earlier, the deferment money, and that's something
that Shohail Tani's done a lot of Dodgers in the league.
The Dodgers are saying, hey, we'll get you two three
a year. On the back end, there's just sixty eight
seventy million a We've heard recently where the commissioners started
to kind of toss around the idea of some time
with salary cap because people are saying this isn't fair.
(31:54):
Other teams, including Yankee saying this isn't fair of all
the teams. Scott, but how do what are your thoughts
on the FIRMA you think it's okay they get fined,
is it level in the playing field or is it
not fair? And we will eventually lead to a salary cap.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Well, I think the point of it is is that
how are salary caps working well? In the NFL we
had a a lockout in twenty eleven, in the NBA
they had a lockout. In the NHL they had one
of their all cap elements, And how is it working
in competition? Well, the NFL, even riggers are schedule and
they still have two of the last three years the
(32:31):
same Super Bowl teams. You have four or five one
team in the Super Bowl four to five times. Because
if anything, salary caps are supposed to promote parody, well
they're not working. So the only thing salary caps really
do is provide ownership with a greater economic purpose than
they would otherwise. So when you're talking about deferrals, deferrals
(32:52):
are a method of what is the appraisal of the
player's value, you know, And I realized that they give
some funny money as we call it later in the future.
But Otani's contract is worth four hundred and fifty million dollars.
Who said the league says it? The players Union says
that because of the fact that there's a net present
value that you would use about how you appraise it,
(33:14):
and so deferral is something that is merely a mechanism
that helps flexibility or whatever. Because every team in baseball
uses it, every team has the opportunity to use it,
there is no unfairness about it. And the point of
it is, like when I did Blake Snell's contract with
Andrew and the Dodgers, you know, we got at the
(33:36):
time a record signing bonus until we did once but
of like fifty something million dollars, and they also deferred
an equivalent amount for future years, and that made the
net present value of the contract for our purposes to
be fair for the player, because that, in the end
is the valuation is is what is that player's work.
And when you look at the Dodgers, their contracts for
(33:59):
Hernandez serve our key day are for really anyone they signed.
They're not above market contracts. They're not paying valuations for
players that are in any way any different than what
any other team is paying. So they did. If you
had a situation where one team was paying dramatically more
(34:22):
for players than others, you would say, well, then they
have this decisive advantage. But keep in mind that our
game has gone up in revenues every year, record revenues
last year, record revenues this year.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Last year was twelve point one billion dollars for baseball.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yes, and the issue is that we have a situation
where ownership is same, but what are we doing with salaries. Well,
this year in twenty five, the sal amount of money
spent on players is going to be the same as
twenty four. It didn't go up by ten percent like
the revenues. And so the idea of it is, we've
had fifteen teams that lowered their payroll from the prior
(35:05):
year even though they had record revenues. We have six
teams that aren't even spending a one hundred million even
though they have record revenues. So when you look at
all this and you're saying that there is some sort
of element in the game, the truth of the matter
is is that the NBA TV contract just illustrated something.
(35:27):
Is that the people that controlled streaming, which was the
end to cable because of the handhelds, well, Major League
Baseball developed that MLB band developed it. Instead of licensing it,
they sold it, and in doing so they kept dealing
and have long term contracts with cable companies knowing that
the form of doing business with them was changing, and
(35:51):
that preempted them from a market that they should have
had access two years before. The NBA, on the other hand,
who to give you an example in Milwaukee have lower
ratings than the Brewers the Bucks do. The Bucks have
play only half the games of the Brewers, Yet the
media contract, the amount of revenues that the Brewers make
(36:16):
is only half of what the Buck gets, and the
revenues in the NBA are nearly double over MLB, which
tells me that the issue with revenues it isn't about
a salary cap or labor costs. It is about how
we're negotiating for media rights. We need to have effective
negotiations to where it's obvious that we have double the
(36:37):
content that and we should have a greater media rights
valuation than the NBA, which would bring a lot more
value both in franchise value and revenues to the owners.
So that is how we correct It's a revenue problem.
It is not a salary cap or a labor cost problem.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Hey, Scott, last thing, we got a minute to go hereo.
Going back to the METS, I thought he got job
the two year contract for just fifty four million dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Very few players. This guy plays every day.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
He knows how to play in New York under the pressure,
hit some of the biggest home runs in the postseason.
And they didn't have that seven hundred and sixty five
million dollars for Juan Soto but only fifty four million
for one of their own. How tough was that for
him to go back to the Mets and for that contract.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Well, the truth of it is is that when you
are a thirty year old player in our game and
you have a qualifying offer, meaning that you have to
give up draft picks and international money, major league teams
do not want to do that. They'll do it for
a twenty six year old or a twenty seven year
old or other, but they won't do it for a
thirty year old. And I've had issues with Matts, with Snell,
(37:49):
with Matt Chapman, and now pene Alonzo with Bregman. They
don't want to do the long term contracts for those.
But the next year when they're free agents, then they
get the true free agent value and the market because
they are truly free there's no draft picks given up,
and the clubs will then go out and pay their value.
So the system is working to where they have a
(38:12):
restricted free agency, which Pete was under because of the
qualifying offer. And you also see people talking to me,
why are these players signed so late? Because teams go
after players that are true free agents where they don't
have to give away the draft picks, and they approach
last in the mark at the teams where they have
to give away the draft picks to sign the players.
(38:34):
So the meth obviously because he was his team of origin,
didn't have to give up draft picks, and all the
other teams involved did not bid for Pete because, after all,
they all say, why would I ever give up draft
picks when the reward of that is getting anywhere from
thirty four to fifty home runs and having a player
with one thousand ops who has key home runs in
(38:55):
the postseason. I won't do that till next year. That's
kind of what they said.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Scott Man, it's been a pleasure learn so much. Dot
got boris the great agents. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
We appreciate you. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
All right, Draymond had some stuff to say. We'll get
to that in just a little bit. It is the
odd couple. Rob Kelvin, Fox Sports Radio Raymond.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
You two.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Fox Sports Radio A couple Rob Kelvin, that was pretty
cool man here Scott Boris break down so much. Check
out the podcast if you didn't hear to get a
chance to hear that. All right, we're coming to you
live from the tire rack dot Com studios tire rack
dot com.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I'm gonna help you get there.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
An unmassed election, fast re shipping, free road hazard protection,
over ten thousand recommend installers, ti rack dot com the
way tire binding should be up.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Next, Draymond has some stuff. Rob de saone's talking big time.
We need to dissect that. And I got news for him.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
They ain't winning the championship, like Raimon said, But we'll
talk about that in much guaranteed it the guaranteed it
was guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, guarantee was right. Draymond's wrong. We'll tell you about it.
Fox Sports right.
Speaker 7 (40:15):
Hell
Hosts And Creators
kelvin washington
Rob Parker
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.