February 18, 2025 • 39 mins
Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington open this 'Best of' edition of The Odd Couple reacting to reports that Netflix is 'all in' on trying to purchase the rights to NFL on Sundays from CBS and FOX. Later, they discuss comments from Anthony Edwards over All-Star Weekend where he responded to a question about whether he considers himself a candidate to take over as the face of the NBA, saying 'no, that's why they have Wemby.' At the end of the day, is it even up to Ant? Does he have a say in the matter? Plus, NFL insider Adam Caplan joins the show to help look ahead to the NFL offseason and preview some of the biggest storylines to look forward to.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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coming up in about twenty seven minutes eat from Salam
the former NFL offensive lineman, and of course Fox Sports
Radio weekend host Chris Ivory coming up.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
An hour number two.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
He is with Heritage Auctions, a sports collectibles and you
should see some of the stuff that's gonna be available.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
We'll talk about that. Talk to him.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I can't get over how big that business is now,
people buying stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
As they say, business is booming, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And Adam Kaplan he joined us an hour number three,
NFL and its sider of course a serious XM and
Inside the Birds podcast, all that and much more. But
first let me welcome in my partner. He is Kelvin.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It's a shoot.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
By the time we're done with the Shelby hump Day
already weeks the week's fly. No, we were just talking
about that off the air man and Kelvin saw me do.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
So.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I just got my screen like protector for even forty
eight hours on Sunday, put it on a new one
and I just dropped my phone not on the floor.
Just it was about three inches too maybe.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
And they already has a crack. I'm like, I didn't
even drop it.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Then get a refund, Go get it, you know what
I mean, It just happened, you Dale, they'll see proof
you just got it unless you got off somebody on
the street for one ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Then they put it on for you like a buck
ninety eight.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
That's something you think he was selling them at the
seven eleven.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Who knew that it was going to crack like in
two days? Who knew? All right?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
You get what you well, you don't get what you
paid for. In some cases, you can score some deals
in life.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But the trash talking Tuesday, yep. Your chance to trash
anyone anything in the world.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Of sports, trying to think I got some to trash you.
We'll give you thirty or four earth.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Come on every day you want to trash me, thirty
or forty seconds uninterrupted. We will not stop you. We
will not come out. So you'll have your say in
our number two. But first let's welcome in the odd
couple crew because we wouldn't be able to do this
fine radio program. Alex is our engineer Ian is our producer.
(03:51):
And for Rob G, who's medium brown.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I think now in Hawaii, that's gotta be racist. Medium
brown went wrong. Huh. How many think sixty nine here?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Every time we went from twenty to forty, now we're
sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Is also not just his mom's son. Didn't you didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Stop it seventy or sixty you just fell it sixty
nine what I just said to fail where you decided
to stop?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
All right? I think thirteen went that's a fan.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Oh by the way, what do they tell you in
the streets, No more pancakes? Huh, yes, dud, no more pancas.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's what I got Rob after that video, Elijah put
up the video no more, no more pancakes of Rob
G cutting me a piece of his pancake, going and
feeding you. No, he did not feed feed. That's how
I remember it. No, that's just how I remember it.
Put it on my plate and I ate it with my.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Hand like it's baby.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Without looking Alex, he just smoothly put it over to Rob.
Here you go and look at me.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You think I'm gonna let a man feed me pancakes,
and I and look at me.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I just know Alex is already pulling this audio right now.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Already we already got you. Just see the whole video.
I just on my page right now. K doub live,
kdub live.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Alex, you not pull check it out?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
What are you say, Rob, I'm just saying, if it's
your kada and you're trying to feed me time, I
don't got to spend feed me no.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Alex just without even missing a beat. I mean, Alex, Robbie,
Robbie is he's doing it right now. He's feeding his
wife and his daughter before for two for two for
about a week in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
He had to feed you stop all right.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Steven Sager's at the anchor desk. He'll keep us updated
throughout the program. And of course Elijah Boy is our
social media guru and he does a great job.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Thank you for that video, Elijah, and he's got streets.
Needed it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
A couple of days off because there's no Checkle City,
NBA tomorrow game, the makeup game, and then the full
slab of NBA games kickback up on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
But let's start here.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
If you're a football fan and you're used to watching
your football, you know when I was a kid, you know,
it was just that it was never cable, was right,
It was just free TV. You watch the game Sunday
and that was it and that was the end of it.
But that's now all changed. And you know Netflix, who
(06:10):
did that terrible Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight and they
had a lot of issues.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
All that it was.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
It was terrible, right, Jerry, It was Jerry Jones house,
as in Jerry's world and then he could his audios. Remember,
all right, Jerry, what do you think? You know, Jerry
loves some Jerry, so I know somebody got fired.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So anyway, it's a story out there that Netflix is
all in on purchase purchasing I should say Sunday NFL rights,
So that would be either CBS's rights of the a
f C or Fox's rights of THEFC.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And I got news for you. What's that.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Those places like Netflix and they got more money than
God and the networks.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
You know you work in television.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Push comes to shove like this is how CBS lost
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
In the beginning when they gave it up to Fox.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
When they had the NFC in the old days when
I was a kid, AFC was NBC and FI and
CBS had the NFC, Yeah, and they gave it up,
and now they might not have a choice if they
if this, if Netflix is the one that's going after
and they want it because this is where and the
NFL is going to take. They don't care how many
people get it. They don't care how many people are watching.
(07:32):
You know, they want the most money. So if CBS
doesn't come up with the loot, then you're gonna lose
the AFC.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
They'll come up with the loot. They're getting the boot.
Am I right there? It is so so much of this.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
It's funny having that conversation with Scott Boris we had yesterday, right,
that was yesterday. This makes me think of some of
the stuff we talked about. When he was saying how
the MLB kind of missed out on all that content.
He's like, you have double the games of the NBA. Yeah,
you're not making the money of the NBA when it
comes to TV and streaming and rights like that. He said,
the NBA has done a better job understanding that, and
(08:06):
so that's will be interesting with the NFL. So to
break it down even a little bit further, so the
NFL has these deals.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I still I heard what he said.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, but players are making seventy million dollars in BAB.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
No, no, no, that's not it his point, his point where
it could be be making more if we're if we
take the model, we're about the same as far as
like impact NBA and in the nb MLB, but we
have double the games, double the home games.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
He was saying, So why aren't you making this home?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, but the difference is I'm just gonna less players
in the NBA and you're not paying.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
For minor leagues. There's a difference there but two leagues.
But I'm just telling you what Scott boring. Okay, I
know what he's saying. But so you start looking at this.
You brought up some things.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
So the NFL has these deals till through twenty thirty three,
but you would say, oh, that's far away, and didn't
think about that. They can jump out of those deals
within four years. As long as they get four years notice,
they can say, hey, never mind, we're not going to
go the full length of this contract, in which all
indicators are looking like to your point, they're not going
to because if somebody's gonna pay me more, we're not
(09:07):
going to twenty thirty three. And so to mention you
mentioned habit creatures a habit. So since nineteen ninety eight,
you already know that big AFC game Baltimore, Kansas City
that's on CBS. CBS has had the AFC since ninety eight.
It's just you already know if most cities wherever you
live could be channel two, channel eleven.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Whatever, and they got that from NBC.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yeah, you're right, and then ninety four Fox has had
the NFC. So it is me where creatures a habit.
So from a fan base, it's gonna be weird having
to think, ooh, that big game, you know that big Cowboys, Eagles,
whatever it may be, And you're like, wait, is that
on Amazon? Okay, wait today today, Prime thir or is
it Netflix? Because right now that's what we're doing. Right now,
(09:50):
you gotta go. You think Netflix has some games, now
it will eventually Prime has some games. Obviously your local
networks will have it. So it is gonna be a
little bit more scattered and make you happ to think.
But the NFL is not going to turn down the
money that Netflix can offer. Netflix once to get out
of the early they had the early games, and I
think so you you mentioned the Jake Paul. They did
so well with the Christmas Day Game. It was in
(10:12):
two hundred and eighteen countries. Thirty million people watch the
Kansas City and Pittsburgh, thirty one million watchs Baltimore at Texans.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
That's not a lot of numbers if you're talking about
the world, though.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, I'm saying, but for them, right they can they
can say it was the highest Christmas Day game ever.
But so they can say, hey, NFL, I go to you.
Because there's eight billion people. Even in this country, there's
three hundred and thirty million. You're talking about less than
a third of the people. Less than that, what would
be the right number, So that would be like ten
less than ten percent. Yeah, but it's a big number
(10:42):
for sports right now.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
It's the biggest number they've ever had.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So they can be like, look we had when we
do it, all we know is we get you thirty million,
thirty one million out of its peak, and we're getting
you in multiple countries. So that's why the NFL would
say done deal. One of y'all gotta go. CBS tell
you this, Fox.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think if they do do this that they will
lose viewers for the first time.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And I mean, like, I don't believe where people are
scaling back.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
They don't want they got rid of cable.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
We saw what happened and how ESPN at one point
and some of these other places were making dude, eight
dollars of household times one hundred and fifty million people
on there every month.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Every month.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
And you know, because your billing you start looking at
the itemized bill, you're like, oh no, wait, I'm playing
for this much, this much for this one because you
just see your bill's a buck eighty.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
But that's what the kind of money it was. And
my point is that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I believe there'll be people who will just say, i'll
get my clips on Twitter, I'll watch a bootleg. I'm
just not gonna pay for it, especially if you don't
already have it. Amazon Prime for me is easier to
have because I have Amazon Prime and I get the
free packages. If you tell me every month a certain
(11:58):
amount of packages and whatnot that I get for free,
that it pays for itself, you know, you could justify
the sixteen dollars a month.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That it pays for itself. But I can't.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You can't look at it totally and be like, am
I gonna have four or five different streaming packages and
all the stuff start to add up.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
So I think you'll lose people. I think, I really do.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I don't think you'll have the same Not that people
won't care about football or gambling on a fantasy they'll
just find and see highlights and clips and other stuff,
but they won't watch the games fully though. They'll try
to find somebody who has the red zone chance, you know, like,
there you go, You've led me to it.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I think that's gonna lead people to the red zone
because what do we know people do? They're gambling fantasy
footballing right or I just want to see that, you
know what's going on? A shoot there on the fifteen
they're anight, they're about to score. So I think that's
gonna push people the red zone to just see. How
don't necessarily need to see Chicago versus Jacksonville. I don't
need to see that game, but I do have K Williams,
(13:00):
so let me just see red zone to see if
he scores. He's on my fantasy team or I got
him at my parlay. So I think that's gonna drive
people absolutely the red zone. Absolutely This might be when
more the NFL starts to lee kind of more towards
NBA with like highlights and cool stuff online, because that's
where the NBA also dominates.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It's much better like a clip.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You send clips, Hey, you send your boy that dunk,
this crossover, this crazy steph Curry three. So I think
the NFL will start becoming more clips too online where
you just clip it up. Hey, I saw enough of
the highlights. I got it. It'll never die down. It's
a bohemith in America as far as sports is number
one by far. But I do think it'll change our
viewing habits, and it may not necessarily work the way
(13:40):
they thought it would work.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Let me say it that way. But money talks. Yeah,
Money's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
But at some point, and I'll give you the perfect
example how boxing lost its luster with fans and a
lot of fans didn't grow up with it. And that's
the path when they took boxing off of free TV.
I watched Muhammad Ali on ABC Wild World, Amazing, Big Fight, Fall,
three fights, and then what has happened to boxing since
the same thing? They started to only pay per view.
(14:07):
Kids weren't able to watch all that stuff, so you
don't grow up with it. It's it's right. It becomes
like it's some special thing that to be actually was
shit in all the kids who don't aren't in families
that don't have that, they won't be able to watch
a football.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Game in their house.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I mean, that's the kind of stuff that's scary small
and it has and it has a damaging effect long term.
All right eight seven seven ninety nine off Fox eight
seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Streaming
NFL games on Netflix? Would you buy in? Would you
not buy in? Where would you be on this? I
(14:44):
know I would be out all the way out on
the stream.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Already have Netflix, so it's kind of a like you said,
but I'm there.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But if if it's a hey for an.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Extra eleven or whatever the bucks to get the football
because already joking right now, Rob, people already making all
the videos and memes going Netflix, do one does one
more price?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Raise raise the price again, right.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And they start their doing videos and them bringing out
their DVD players and Blu ray players like let me
all right now.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Netflix, seriously, because at some point you could price a
lot of the average Joes out of the game.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
And that's eggs. No Lucy's in New York. Yeah, let
me get a card to milk. Let me get some chips,
some brand, and two eggs.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
All right, It is The.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
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Speaker 1 (16:01):
Our number three On a Trash Talking Tuesday, Rob Parker,
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Com studios.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
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Speaker 3 (16:19):
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Speaker 1 (16:22):
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funny thing about YouTube and everything, and I know they're
kind of attached to your email or whatever. At first,
when I had this TV in my bedroom and it
(16:50):
has the YouTube thing, and it has like when streaming,
and it shows you what you could look at, and
so often I would early on when I first got
a TV, I go in and be.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Like, you got a odd couple of clips? Like it
was always out like you see them?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, well, of course, because they know what you've watched before, right,
so they always suggested, you.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Know, let me tell you the algorithm.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Scary the algorithm, right, it's scary though, all social media
that you want more of that?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's what you like? Here you go take some more.
Oh you like the odd couple? Is that what he
talks like? That's the algorithm in my mind, scary. Oh
you like dugs, here's it more dugs. And you want
more puppies, here's puppies. Oh you like MNFL, here's that's
an algorithm.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
You spend spend thirty seconds on somebody's post a little
too long, or comment on it or ha ha They're
gonna keep flooding you with it.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You know, buy one thing off or look at one thing?
Oh so you want to buy more?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
The only thing I don't understand seriously, and I get that.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Would you stop? Please?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
No, I'm not looking at them on and that's why
I they don't show up on my timeline.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
What doesn't what we're talking about? Why didn't you hear it?
What it was a drop? Oh? You like rats? Hey, Alex?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
The best part about it is all we gotta do
is say the word enough because you know they're listening,
and it he'll pop up. Listen, his Explorer page will
be nothing but splinter from the teenage.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
My god. But no, the what we're just saying might
talking about rats? Go ahead? No, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Sorry, I can't remember now, so you got me all message.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
No, I'm saying hood rats. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I'm saying, yeah, pop its what his name? What was
that movie that Michael Jackson had been? I know all
the movies I've seen. There was a nightmare for you.
Everybody else thought it was a sad movie. That was
a horror flick. You find that song, Alex, I need
Ben from Michael Jackson. You look at you scratching, your
getting nervous and itching. No, sorry, let's get to the
(18:48):
real conversation. We gotta get to why you gotta do
that to me?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
You find like, Okay, let's get to it. Rats rat?
Do you like rats? The best? Alex hit him with me.
Let's go, Mike Jackson.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, this was dedicated to my dead rat. That was
my one and only, my homie. We call him Ben.
Oh god, the two of us. Who would make a
song about a rat?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I like? I like seriously the best? Bardy. Why did
everybody love it? I know? It was a huge thing,
the movie, the song. It was a rat, not a mouse.
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
The best comment on this video the only song that
can make a grown man cry this a.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Rat about a rat, not even Master Splinter.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Okay, thank you, Oh god, Steve. They're harmonized over dead rat.
You've got a friend in me. Man.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Whoever was the drummer on this set was so mad.
Alex I got a I was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Be on the road with the one that was before
that was the one that got me was Willard.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
That was the that's another one that that was the
original one. But all right, I'm crying right now. I
didn't even see it, and uh, we know you took
up my watch out for the rats she was trying
to be helping. Probably would have stepped right on it
passed and it would have felt like like a pincush.
Now here, we are carrying you back to the hotel
(20:27):
after robb G had to feed.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
You passed out. I would have passed out and carried
you back.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Oh my gosh, man, you were just like I would
have been, just like a date. I had, a crazy
wild date, had to feed her bread and pancakes and
then carry her home.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know, my you know, my worst nightmare is you know,
bite it to a hamber stop and the tails stop.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Okay, that's there. He goes with extremes. There he goes
with extremes. Let's go, let's get it. Let me just
run it back. The best part about it is one
(21:08):
of my first week here, was when that bat flew around.
You don't understand the way you can't see you, rob
you couldn't see your face, the fear and the best
he was in the middle of.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And I tell you what, the lions ain't gonna do nothing.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
The chiefs it just because I was a bat com.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Bite me, I don't know what that bat was flying around.
I wanted that ever jump in my lap? Again?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Why are you in my let On his defense, you
had a pancake?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Okay, oh right, can you go to let me get
all right there?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
So? Oh god.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Anthony Edwards, who does not play for the Minnesota Rats,
but for the Timberwolves, he's been the guy that maybe
the reason the.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Team's not called a rat. Okay, that's no rat.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
So Anthony Edwards, many people say he's the face like
he is the now young new first face of the league,
and a lot of in the he's your favorite player's
favorite player, you know, he's the older vets there.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
He's the guy they look at.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
He's tough, he talks smack, he's himself, he's authentic and so.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Over the weekend All Star weekend, he was.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Asked, hey, man, you got the swag, you got this,
you know, could you be the face of the league.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Here's what he had to say, you consider yourself the
top candidates to be the next face of the league.
M No, not really. Why that's what they got, Uh,
that's what they got. Win before, that's what they got.
Went before he went on to say no, he said,
what Wimby.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah, everyone does know that it's Wimby done done, done done.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Everyone knows it's twim Hey, hey hey.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
He went on to say, this is the worst segment
slash best segment ever. He went on to say, uh,
he's cap because they had They said, man, you got
the bag, you got the swag, and he said, I
got all of that. I'm capable. I just you know,
He's like, I don't know. I just don't want that,
you know, I just want to play ball. I just
want to hoot. Was this point?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
So the conversation is the NBA. We know Lebron.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
You know, at some point he's gonna move on, Steph's
gonna move on. Kd's gonna move on. Kind of the
old brigade is gonna move on, Chris Paul, all those guys.
So who is gonna be the next face? And is
it their responsibility to accept that mantle? So if everybody's
saying it's Anthony Edwards, should it be Anthony Edwards? And
what I heard right there Rob was I like the commercials.
(23:35):
He's got the Adidas commercials. He liked he had the Uh,
I love the Christmas sprite commercials he had those were
great as well. But I think he doesn't want the
responsibility that comes with it from a.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Being out of the public guy for negative things.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
He's had some you know, if you know his story,
said some things out there, some ladies who have claimed
something and accuse him of some things and put out
some snapchats and text messages and all that.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I think he knows.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I don't want to be the government politician, official, perfect
guy like a lebron Right or Steph I got the
you know, the beautiful family.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Well I got news for him. Yeah, you don't get
to pick.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And I don't think he has anything to worry about.
I think that was all premature.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Last year it made for a good story because oh
my god, they beat the the Nuggets and that was
a shock, and they wound up getting people thought they
will remember that when they who they play, they plays
the Maths. Everybody was ready to cry them and then
all of a sudden, right they they didn't. It didn't
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work out, and he didn't play that as well, and
the team didn't play as well, and and that'll just happen.
It ain't something where somebody in some officers saying, hey,
you're the next guy, and it could be Wimby, It
really could be.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
But I remember when Shack before or Shack started making
the playoffs. You remember the first couple of years in
Orlandos they didn't make the playoffs. It's hard to be
the face of the league when the playoffs are going
on and you're not in the playoffs. So I don't
think he has anything to worry about as far as
being that guy, because it'll happen where they see you
have all the qualities and they will try to put
you to the front, try to feature you on some
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stuff that that would make you and put you in
that thing. But but it's not like you gotta raise
your hand or if you're doing stuff that is not
coming to the league, or it just won't happen.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I think what we're looking at, I think Anthony Edwards
will be not as influential, but the Allen Iverson version
of most people.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I don't even think he's the same as he was
just a year ago.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I think last year, with that playoff run, people were
all about him.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
This year, the team's not as good, right, Kat's not there.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
It doesn't feel the same to me, I agree with that,
but he's only him being twenty three or four. I
think that I'm just saying heading still towards this.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
But last year should have been a building step because
Cat's not there, you.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Know what I mean? What you mean?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
This was your year to be the guy everybody and
everybody wants to give it to him because he's the
one guy who will say something.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
He's the one guy.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
He plays defense. He says, I want to play every night.
Screw that low management. I want to ball.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I want to play that.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
He talks smack to the players, but he also has
enough respect. He's arrogant without being copy cocky. He's confident.
He's the whole package. Obviously, he's got the same build
as a Jordan N Kobe that held you know, six
five sixty six. He's got that thing in that regard.
But I feel like he's a little bit more iverson,
maybe a little more rough a on the edges that
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you know, the league would like, maybe a little more
baggage outside of the actual game that comes with it.
And I think Wimby, because you saw Wemby mad at
the All Star Game that his team lost. He cares
Wemby obviously literally a freak of nature, and how tall
he is and how his game play play, I can
see him being more the statesman and more of the
you know, Steph Curry a little more were polished if
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you will. Obviously you know speaks French and English as
the second language. But I could see that being the
case with Wemby's that guy and Edwards is you're sort
of an Allen Iverson guy. I'm real, I'm raw, I'm me,
I'm out thinking, I'm a cousin. I don't care who
I am what I am and people.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I think you're too high hopes for for ed You
know what I mean after last year and why you
keep inding it.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I just do you think it's the same as it was? No, No,
I'm like it should have had you build off. I agree,
but I'm saying he's so young.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
But other guys are coming Like I'm just saying, like
Wemby's getting better, his team is getting better, like that
now that they have.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
From the kids. Darren Fox, Darren Fox, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
What I'm saying, Like, like now that team could be
good again, not bad if Wemby's not in the playoffs
like last year, it's hard for you to be the
face of anything I look at.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I look at it like Jordan.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Though Jordan came into the league, it was Birds League,
Magic's league, Zeke Doctor j was still there, Kareem was
still there, and he was just one of oh yeah,
that's the one young girl that can score. And as
he kept getting better, kept winning, kept getting the highlights,
kept finding his you know, footing in the league, then
he became that guy. And that's what I'm saying, the
oldest thing. I'm not saying he's Jordan. What i mean
(28:21):
is he's got time. I mean he I disagree with
this with the Jordan thing.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, that's why they froze him out the All Star
Game because of as much attention. Even though those guys
were there, there was a there was a resentment already,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
He was coming in torching the league game. That's what
I said, come here like Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
For them not to want to pass the ball toimate
an All Star Game because they felt the league was
already you know what I mean, Like he was his airingess.
I know Mike was Mike, but but you know what
I mean, Eventually he became covered to the NBA when
I was a beat writer and sitting you know, off
in the in the press row watching him play.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
That's like one of the joys of my career. I
never got to see him play in person. He's one
of the you know, one of the one of those
dying I wish I was like, I never got to
see Michael Jackson before before he pass you know, that
kind of thing to see greatness in in in person.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
But the question, you know.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
What I mean is is there was your responsibility as
a young up and comer.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Is it earned or is it given?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
That's the question eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
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Also, who do you think is going to be the
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he don't want it?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Uh candidate or somebody you think fits all fits the
bill to represent the league both on and off the court.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I mean, it's that simple.
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Speaker 3 (30:18):
What's up, BROTHERT? What's happening? Guy's going to talk to
you as always always.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Let's uh talk some NFL some stuff. I guess franchise
tag the Bengals. Oh, they're going to be able to
the claiming his sign and everybody and T Higgins what's
going on with the Bengals and that any money?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, here's what's happened.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
I know a lot of people are gonna nothing's official yet,
but it's trending that way.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
So they drafted Jermaine Burton out of Alabama and there
was a thought that he would replace him at the
time of last year's draft, and Burton just didn't mature enough.
And the Bengals have a history of going year to
year by player with players. They've let a lot of
guys walk at compensatory picks. That that's always something to
look at with the Bengals. But they just don't have
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his replacement. So by the way, it's a placeholder. It's
only a one year once he signed it, it's a
fully guaranteed deal, but it's only a placeholder. They were
not even close to an extension by July fifteenth, which
which is the deadline every year.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And it's just just the.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Way they do business. You talked about money, Rob, their
they're a team that more often not does not pay up.
It's a mom and pop up. Yeah, it's why they're not.
They're just it's amazing. They've been one super both Borrow
despite the offensive line problems and so forth. Their team
that's not cash rich, they're not. They're they're bottom ten
team of available cash.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And when people don't even realize they practice outside up
until a couple of years ago, right am, I right out.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Well I'm going to give another thing, Rob Okay, this
is talking the coaches over the years, so they're personal people.
Mike Brown when he was more involved in the day
to day operation of personnel, Mike Brown was so cheap
that the coaches would do most of the scouting, which
is absurd.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Their coaches, he can't be doing that. So but they changed.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
They build a scouting staff over a number of years,
and Bill Tobinson Duke does a great job. He doesn't
have a GM title, but he's the acting general manager
as a personnel director. They actually draft well, they just
they let too many players walk. They don't build a
team the right way, by the way you have to.
They're another team that needs a copy off of what
Philly does. Why I don't know why. It does not
(32:32):
start with their offensive line. When you have an elite
quarterback like Joe Burrow, why do you not build a
great offensive line. They've never done that with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, I mean there in lies the question.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
And you mentioned Philly Adam, that was the reference that
Joe Burrow did. He said, why can't we kind of
operate like them? Everybody's getting paid over there, and guys
seem to be happy. I must switch gears and stay
with another quarterback. Matthew Stafford. What's happening here? The last
couple of seasons. His wife is chattering. He's trying to
compete with us with the show. He's got a couple
(33:02):
of seasons where hey, you know, maybe he didn't have
the greatest expectation, but they got to the postseason. If
it weren't for a fumble, maybe they're in the NFC Championship.
Why isn't he getting the money he thinks he wants
or is he not happy?
Speaker 6 (33:14):
You know, guys, he's a really good football player. He's
still playing at a very high level. They had offensive
line problems. They actually played a young lot of young
guys on the offensive line. Cooper Cup got hurt. They're
going to move Cooper Cup most lucky cut them. They're
trying to trade him. It's going to be hard.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I'll learn more.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Went up to Combine next week. But that's just a
situation that they've dealt with now. They extended Stafford's contract
three years ago. He's due for another extension or reworking
of his deal. They declined to do it last year.
They restructured it. They moved a little bit of future
money to last year. But it's not going to play Cadum.
He's only, and I say only, it's only going to
(33:52):
make twenty seven million dollars this season. That is well
below what he should be making. And that's the struggle
that they have with him and Matthew whose Look, he's
an older player. We know it at thirty seven years old,
which he just turned last week. They know that they
have to do one way or the other. He's either
going to get extended. They're going to be doing deal,
(34:13):
or he's gonna be traded.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I can't see him extending him because last year, you remember,
he almost didn't come into camp and they had to
do something right before that.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
How was the money you're talking about like this.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
They got to do something because he has he only
has two yars left. There's zero chance he plays on
twenty seven million. So that again, he's either going to
get traded or going to after you work it. But
here's the problem this is and we'll talk more about
this in the coming weeks, but I could just give
you a little bit of a heads up. The draft
for quarterbacks again, on paper, right now, there are two
(34:45):
definitely going to go. Jackson Dard of Mississippi might go
somewhere between twenty and thirty two. He's got a chance
to go in the first round. He had a good
Senior Bowl week. I was there, did really well. Arned
that Jalen Milroe should not touch the first round. I'd
be very surprised if he went in the first round.
He's a project for agency's a disaster. Other than Sam Donald,
it's pretty bad. You got Russell Wilson justin fields. You're
(35:06):
not going to make your money. You're not going to
figure out your quarterback situation if you're the Rams and
free agency at the draft right now.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So they don't have a lot of choices.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
They have to be very very careful that they have
been competitive despite a very young ruster that's not very talented.
The coaching has been great by Sean mcvain's staff, but
they don't have a future quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
That is a major problem for their football team.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Hobboss speaking of quarterbacks, and you mentioned Sam Donald. If
you're the Vikings, you're not giving him a big deal,
are you?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Or you right? I mean, like those two games really
hurt him at the end of it.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
It did, It didn't completely screw you know, It's not
like he was never going to be a fifty million
a year player.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Like some people are scared people off from him. Well
here's why, rob So.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
The thing with him, he had major problems with processing information,
Like on the field, like he just would get stuck,
he would stare at the past target. He just never
looked like a quality quarterback. He's only had one good
year and it was terrific up till the last regular
season game, in the playoff game, and now the Vikings
still I'm told they want to keep them. They might
(36:10):
look at a bridge deal. They like to keep them,
but they're just they're having problems figuring out what the
money should look like. So you never say never hear
him coming back, but they see the JJ McCarthy situation.
They spent a first round pick. Most people don't know this.
He actually he looked great in the game that he
got hurt against the Raiders in the first preseason game.
But I'm told the final two weeks before he got hurt,
(36:32):
they felt he made a big jump and then he
had a major knee injury. Troy Meniscus that he like him,
they really do. But Donald was so fascinating because I
could tell you this, there was zero Chancellor walking away
from Sam Darnold. If he played lights out and didn't
have these two bad games, we're not having the stock
bringing back. It changed everything. There's no question it changes
(36:55):
the way they look at again. They like to have
him back. It's going to be hard, and they have
other issues.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
The roster. They by the way, they really overachieved.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
They It was Darnold, it was bron Flores's absolutely phenomenal,
the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
They were way better than people thought they would be.
And but the scary part, as you go, is he
gonna do that again? Or was that just a.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Coaching Yeah, Kevin O'Connell's like the quarterback West for he
he is a really good quarterbacks developer.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Hey, get you out of here on this one real quick, Adam.
I go to the Chiefs and Robin and I. We
don't agree on a lot, but we do agree that
at some point they got to help out Patrick Mahomes.
They got to get him some real But I don't
know if it's a Cooper.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Come out to pass the game's bet regressing guys.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
It's so what's going on? What do they do to
fix it? Maybe the offensive better than this? Yeah, offensive line?
Uh is a pro. Trey Smith is going to stay
one way or the other. He used to tag or
sign toured extension. They don't have a left tackle. They
went through four guys. Joe Toney got handled their left
guard who moved to left tackle.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
That was a mistake. That was a mistake was that
was Andy. Look I'm a huge ani Red fan, but
that was just not great coaching.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, Andy had a bad will.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Was the game planning a big no running early on
and no adjustment.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
I'll deal with the running game, but that doesn't bother
as much as the problem left tackle. You knew you
knew coming into you had a problem right and then
they stuck with Joe Toooney.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
He was her left guard.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
He hadn't played left tackle since college eight years ago,
and he got handled and at halftime they're down twenty
four to nothing. You got one more shot put in
DJ Humphreys at left tackle. That's what they should have done.
They didn't do it. Their past the game has regrets
the last two seasons. Kelsey can't move well anymore. They
don't want to retire. I got to tell you, I
talked to someone who knows him very well, and he said,
(38:40):
if he gets his ear, he's going to tell him
to retire. Because when you look like this, when you
know you're in your last legs, your body.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Tells you to retire.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
But the one thing that players say they hate going
out like that. That was an embarrassing performance from the Chiefs.
They like this kid, Noah Gray, by the way, who's
his backup? Who's Look, he's not close to what Kelsey was.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
In his crime.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
And that's a position they have to look at. But
the big thing for them is they they have to
They have a couple offensive line pieces, by the way,
they need a running back. They have work to do,
Man Brett Feature general manager that they Yeah, I have
a hard look. I know they have a long offseason.
Remember folks, the season doesn't start till September. But they've
got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
All right.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
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It's a shoot.
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already weeks the week's fly. No, we were just talking
about that off the air man and Kelvin saw me do.
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I just got my screen like protector for even forty
eight hours on Sunday, put it on a new one
and I just dropped my phone not on the floor.
Just it was about three inches too maybe.
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I mean, It just happened, you Dale, they'll see proof
you just got it unless you got off somebody on
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Then they put it on for you like a buck
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That's something you think he was selling them at the
seven eleven.
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Who knew that it was going to crack like in
two days? Who knew? All right?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
You get what you well, you don't get what you
paid for. In some cases, you can score some deals
in life.
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No doubt.
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anyone anything in the world.
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We'll give you thirty or four earth.
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Come on every day you want to trash me, thirty
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I think now in Hawaii, that's gotta be racist. Medium
brown went wrong. Huh. How many think sixty nine here?
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Every time we went from twenty to forty, now we're
sixty nine.
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Is also not just his mom's son. Didn't you didn't.
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Stop it seventy or sixty you just fell it sixty
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Oh by the way, what do they tell you in
the streets, No more pancakes? Huh, yes, dud, no more pancas.
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That's what I got Rob after that video, Elijah put
up the video no more, no more pancakes of Rob
G cutting me a piece of his pancake, going and
feeding you. No, he did not feed feed. That's how
I remember it. No, that's just how I remember it.
Put it on my plate and I ate it with my.
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Hand like it's baby.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Without looking Alex, he just smoothly put it over to Rob.
Here you go and look at me.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You think I'm gonna let a man feed me pancakes,
and I and look at me.
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I just know Alex is already pulling this audio right now.
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Already we already got you. Just see the whole video.
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Alex, you not pull check it out?
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What are you say, Rob, I'm just saying, if it's
your kada and you're trying to feed me time, I
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Alex just without even missing a beat. I mean, Alex, Robbie,
Robbie is he's doing it right now. He's feeding his
wife and his daughter before for two for two for
about a week in New Orleans.
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He had to feed you stop all right.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Steven Sager's at the anchor desk. He'll keep us updated
throughout the program. And of course Elijah Boy is our
social media guru and he does a great job.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Thank you for that video, Elijah, and he's got streets.
Needed it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
A couple of days off because there's no Checkle City,
NBA tomorrow game, the makeup game, and then the full
slab of NBA games kickback up on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
But let's start here.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
If you're a football fan and you're used to watching
your football, you know when I was a kid, you know,
it was just that it was never cable, was right,
It was just free TV. You watch the game Sunday
and that was it and that was the end of it.
But that's now all changed. And you know Netflix, who
(06:10):
did that terrible Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight and they
had a lot of issues.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
All that it was.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
It was terrible, right, Jerry, It was Jerry Jones house,
as in Jerry's world and then he could his audios. Remember,
all right, Jerry, what do you think? You know, Jerry
loves some Jerry, so I know somebody got fired.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So anyway, it's a story out there that Netflix is
all in on purchase purchasing I should say Sunday NFL rights,
So that would be either CBS's rights of the a
f C or Fox's rights of THEFC.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And I got news for you. What's that.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Those places like Netflix and they got more money than
God and the networks.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
You know you work in television.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Push comes to shove like this is how CBS lost
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
In the beginning when they gave it up to Fox.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
When they had the NFC in the old days when
I was a kid, AFC was NBC and FI and
CBS had the NFC, Yeah, and they gave it up,
and now they might not have a choice if they
if this, if Netflix is the one that's going after
and they want it because this is where and the
NFL is going to take. They don't care how many
people get it. They don't care how many people are watching.
(07:32):
You know, they want the most money. So if CBS
doesn't come up with the loot, then you're gonna lose
the AFC.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
They'll come up with the loot. They're getting the boot.
Am I right there? It is so so much of this.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
It's funny having that conversation with Scott Boris we had yesterday, right,
that was yesterday. This makes me think of some of
the stuff we talked about. When he was saying how
the MLB kind of missed out on all that content.
He's like, you have double the games of the NBA. Yeah,
you're not making the money of the NBA when it
comes to TV and streaming and rights like that. He said,
the NBA has done a better job understanding that, and
(08:06):
so that's will be interesting with the NFL. So to
break it down even a little bit further, so the
NFL has these deals.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I still I heard what he said.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, but players are making seventy million dollars in BAB.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
No, no, no, that's not it his point, his point where
it could be be making more if we're if we
take the model, we're about the same as far as
like impact NBA and in the nb MLB, but we
have double the games, double the home games.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
He was saying, So why aren't you making this home?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, but the difference is I'm just gonna less players
in the NBA and you're not paying.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
For minor leagues. There's a difference there but two leagues.
But I'm just telling you what Scott boring. Okay, I
know what he's saying. But so you start looking at this.
You brought up some things.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
So the NFL has these deals till through twenty thirty three,
but you would say, oh, that's far away, and didn't
think about that. They can jump out of those deals
within four years. As long as they get four years notice,
they can say, hey, never mind, we're not going to
go the full length of this contract, in which all
indicators are looking like to your point, they're not going
to because if somebody's gonna pay me more, we're not
(09:07):
going to twenty thirty three. And so to mention you
mentioned habit creatures a habit. So since nineteen ninety eight,
you already know that big AFC game Baltimore, Kansas City
that's on CBS. CBS has had the AFC since ninety eight.
It's just you already know if most cities wherever you
live could be channel two, channel eleven.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Whatever, and they got that from NBC.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yeah, you're right, and then ninety four Fox has had
the NFC. So it is me where creatures a habit.
So from a fan base, it's gonna be weird having
to think, ooh, that big game, you know that big Cowboys, Eagles,
whatever it may be, And you're like, wait, is that
on Amazon? Okay, wait today today, Prime thir or is
it Netflix? Because right now that's what we're doing. Right now,
(09:50):
you gotta go. You think Netflix has some games, now
it will eventually Prime has some games. Obviously your local
networks will have it. So it is gonna be a
little bit more scattered and make you happ to think.
But the NFL is not going to turn down the
money that Netflix can offer. Netflix once to get out
of the early they had the early games, and I
think so you you mentioned the Jake Paul. They did
so well with the Christmas Day Game. It was in
(10:12):
two hundred and eighteen countries. Thirty million people watch the
Kansas City and Pittsburgh, thirty one million watchs Baltimore at Texans.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
That's not a lot of numbers if you're talking about
the world, though.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, I'm saying, but for them, right they can they
can say it was the highest Christmas Day game ever.
But so they can say, hey, NFL, I go to you.
Because there's eight billion people. Even in this country, there's
three hundred and thirty million. You're talking about less than
a third of the people. Less than that, what would
be the right number, So that would be like ten
less than ten percent. Yeah, but it's a big number
(10:42):
for sports right now.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
It's the biggest number they've ever had.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So they can be like, look we had when we
do it, all we know is we get you thirty million,
thirty one million out of its peak, and we're getting
you in multiple countries. So that's why the NFL would
say done deal. One of y'all gotta go. CBS tell
you this, Fox.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think if they do do this that they will
lose viewers for the first time.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And I mean, like, I don't believe where people are
scaling back.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
They don't want they got rid of cable.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
We saw what happened and how ESPN at one point
and some of these other places were making dude, eight
dollars of household times one hundred and fifty million people
on there every month.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Every month.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
And you know, because your billing you start looking at
the itemized bill, you're like, oh no, wait, I'm playing
for this much, this much for this one because you
just see your bill's a buck eighty.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
But that's what the kind of money it was. And
my point is that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I believe there'll be people who will just say, i'll
get my clips on Twitter, I'll watch a bootleg. I'm
just not gonna pay for it, especially if you don't
already have it. Amazon Prime for me is easier to
have because I have Amazon Prime and I get the
free packages. If you tell me every month a certain
(11:58):
amount of packages and whatnot that I get for free,
that it pays for itself, you know, you could justify
the sixteen dollars a month.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That it pays for itself. But I can't.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You can't look at it totally and be like, am
I gonna have four or five different streaming packages and
all the stuff start to add up.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
So I think you'll lose people. I think, I really do.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I don't think you'll have the same Not that people
won't care about football or gambling on a fantasy they'll
just find and see highlights and clips and other stuff,
but they won't watch the games fully though. They'll try
to find somebody who has the red zone chance, you know, like,
there you go, You've led me to it.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I think that's gonna lead people to the red zone
because what do we know people do? They're gambling fantasy
footballing right or I just want to see that, you
know what's going on? A shoot there on the fifteen
they're anight, they're about to score. So I think that's
gonna push people the red zone to just see. How
don't necessarily need to see Chicago versus Jacksonville. I don't
need to see that game, but I do have K Williams,
(13:00):
so let me just see red zone to see if
he scores. He's on my fantasy team or I got
him at my parlay. So I think that's gonna drive
people absolutely the red zone. Absolutely This might be when
more the NFL starts to lee kind of more towards
NBA with like highlights and cool stuff online, because that's
where the NBA also dominates.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It's much better like a clip.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You send clips, Hey, you send your boy that dunk,
this crossover, this crazy steph Curry three. So I think
the NFL will start becoming more clips too online where
you just clip it up. Hey, I saw enough of
the highlights. I got it. It'll never die down. It's
a bohemith in America as far as sports is number
one by far. But I do think it'll change our
viewing habits, and it may not necessarily work the way
(13:40):
they thought it would work.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Let me say it that way. But money talks. Yeah,
Money's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
But at some point, and I'll give you the perfect
example how boxing lost its luster with fans and a
lot of fans didn't grow up with it. And that's
the path when they took boxing off of free TV.
I watched Muhammad Ali on ABC Wild World, Amazing, Big Fight, Fall,
three fights, and then what has happened to boxing since
the same thing? They started to only pay per view.
(14:07):
Kids weren't able to watch all that stuff, so you
don't grow up with it. It's it's right. It becomes
like it's some special thing that to be actually was
shit in all the kids who don't aren't in families
that don't have that, they won't be able to watch
a football.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Game in their house.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I mean, that's the kind of stuff that's scary small
and it has and it has a damaging effect long term.
All right eight seven seven ninety nine off Fox eight
seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Streaming
NFL games on Netflix? Would you buy in? Would you
not buy in? Where would you be on this? I
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know I would be out all the way out on
the stream.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Already have Netflix, so it's kind of a like you said,
but I'm there.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But if if it's a hey for an.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Extra eleven or whatever the bucks to get the football
because already joking right now, Rob, people already making all
the videos and memes going Netflix, do one does one
more price?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Raise raise the price again, right.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And they start their doing videos and them bringing out
their DVD players and Blu ray players like let me
all right now.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Netflix, seriously, because at some point you could price a
lot of the average Joes out of the game.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
And that's eggs. No Lucy's in New York. Yeah, let
me get a card to milk. Let me get some chips,
some brand, and two eggs.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
All right, It is The.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
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Speaker 1 (16:01):
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kind of attached to your email or whatever. At first,
when I had this TV in my bedroom and it
(16:50):
has the YouTube thing, and it has like when streaming,
and it shows you what you could look at, and
so often I would early on when I first got
a TV, I go in and be.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Like, you got a odd couple of clips? Like it
was always out like you see them?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, well, of course, because they know what you've watched before, right,
so they always suggested, you.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Know, let me tell you the algorithm.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Scary the algorithm, right, it's scary though, all social media
that you want more of that?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's what you like? Here you go take some more.
Oh you like the odd couple? Is that what he
talks like? That's the algorithm in my mind, scary. Oh
you like dugs, here's it more dugs. And you want
more puppies, here's puppies. Oh you like MNFL, here's that's
an algorithm.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
You spend spend thirty seconds on somebody's post a little
too long, or comment on it or ha ha They're
gonna keep flooding you with it.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You know, buy one thing off or look at one thing?
Oh so you want to buy more?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
The only thing I don't understand seriously, and I get that.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Would you stop? Please?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
No, I'm not looking at them on and that's why
I they don't show up on my timeline.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
What doesn't what we're talking about? Why didn't you hear it?
What it was a drop? Oh? You like rats? Hey, Alex?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
The best part about it is all we gotta do
is say the word enough because you know they're listening,
and it he'll pop up. Listen, his Explorer page will
be nothing but splinter from the teenage.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
My god. But no, the what we're just saying might
talking about rats? Go ahead? No, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Sorry, I can't remember now, so you got me all message.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
No, I'm saying hood rats. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I'm saying, yeah, pop its what his name? What was
that movie that Michael Jackson had been? I know all
the movies I've seen. There was a nightmare for you.
Everybody else thought it was a sad movie. That was
a horror flick. You find that song, Alex, I need
Ben from Michael Jackson. You look at you scratching, your
getting nervous and itching. No, sorry, let's get to the
(18:48):
real conversation. We gotta get to why you gotta do
that to me?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
You find like, Okay, let's get to it. Rats rat?
Do you like rats? The best? Alex hit him with me.
Let's go, Mike Jackson.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, this was dedicated to my dead rat. That was
my one and only, my homie. We call him Ben.
Oh god, the two of us. Who would make a
song about a rat?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I like? I like seriously the best? Bardy. Why did
everybody love it? I know? It was a huge thing,
the movie, the song. It was a rat, not a mouse.
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
The best comment on this video the only song that
can make a grown man cry this a.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Rat about a rat, not even Master Splinter.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Okay, thank you, Oh god, Steve. They're harmonized over dead rat.
You've got a friend in me. Man.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Whoever was the drummer on this set was so mad.
Alex I got a I was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Be on the road with the one that was before
that was the one that got me was Willard.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
That was the that's another one that that was the
original one. But all right, I'm crying right now. I
didn't even see it, and uh, we know you took
up my watch out for the rats she was trying
to be helping. Probably would have stepped right on it
passed and it would have felt like like a pincush.
Now here, we are carrying you back to the hotel
(20:27):
after robb G had to feed.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
You passed out. I would have passed out and carried
you back.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Oh my gosh, man, you were just like I would
have been, just like a date. I had, a crazy
wild date, had to feed her bread and pancakes and
then carry her home.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know, my you know, my worst nightmare is you know,
bite it to a hamber stop and the tails stop.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Okay, that's there. He goes with extremes. There he goes
with extremes. Let's go, let's get it. Let me just
run it back. The best part about it is one
(21:08):
of my first week here, was when that bat flew around.
You don't understand the way you can't see you, rob
you couldn't see your face, the fear and the best
he was in the middle of.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And I tell you what, the lions ain't gonna do nothing.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
The chiefs it just because I was a bat com.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Bite me, I don't know what that bat was flying around.
I wanted that ever jump in my lap? Again?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Why are you in my let On his defense, you
had a pancake?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Okay, oh right, can you go to let me get
all right there?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
So? Oh god.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Anthony Edwards, who does not play for the Minnesota Rats,
but for the Timberwolves, he's been the guy that maybe
the reason the.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Team's not called a rat. Okay, that's no rat.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
So Anthony Edwards, many people say he's the face like
he is the now young new first face of the league,
and a lot of in the he's your favorite player's
favorite player, you know, he's the older vets there.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
He's the guy they look at.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
He's tough, he talks smack, he's himself, he's authentic and so.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Over the weekend All Star weekend, he was.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Asked, hey, man, you got the swag, you got this,
you know, could you be the face of the league.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Here's what he had to say, you consider yourself the
top candidates to be the next face of the league.
M No, not really. Why that's what they got, Uh,
that's what they got. Win before, that's what they got.
Went before he went on to say no, he said,
what Wimby.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah, everyone does know that it's Wimby done done, done done.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Everyone knows it's twim Hey, hey hey.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
He went on to say, this is the worst segment
slash best segment ever. He went on to say, uh,
he's cap because they had They said, man, you got
the bag, you got the swag, and he said, I
got all of that. I'm capable. I just you know,
He's like, I don't know. I just don't want that,
you know, I just want to play ball. I just
want to hoot. Was this point?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
So the conversation is the NBA. We know Lebron.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
You know, at some point he's gonna move on, Steph's
gonna move on. Kd's gonna move on. Kind of the
old brigade is gonna move on, Chris Paul, all those guys.
So who is gonna be the next face? And is
it their responsibility to accept that mantle? So if everybody's
saying it's Anthony Edwards, should it be Anthony Edwards? And
what I heard right there Rob was I like the commercials.
(23:35):
He's got the Adidas commercials. He liked he had the Uh,
I love the Christmas sprite commercials he had those were
great as well. But I think he doesn't want the
responsibility that comes with it from a.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Being out of the public guy for negative things.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
He's had some you know, if you know his story,
said some things out there, some ladies who have claimed
something and accuse him of some things and put out
some snapchats and text messages and all that.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I think he knows.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I don't want to be the government politician, official, perfect
guy like a lebron Right or Steph I got the
you know, the beautiful family.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Well I got news for him. Yeah, you don't get
to pick.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And I don't think he has anything to worry about.
I think that was all premature.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Last year it made for a good story because oh
my god, they beat the the Nuggets and that was
a shock, and they wound up getting people thought they
will remember that when they who they play, they plays
the Maths. Everybody was ready to cry them and then
all of a sudden, right they they didn't. It didn't
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work out, and he didn't play that as well, and
the team didn't play as well, and and that'll just happen.
It ain't something where somebody in some officers saying, hey,
you're the next guy, and it could be Wimby, It
really could be.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
But I remember when Shack before or Shack started making
the playoffs. You remember the first couple of years in
Orlandos they didn't make the playoffs. It's hard to be
the face of the league when the playoffs are going
on and you're not in the playoffs. So I don't
think he has anything to worry about as far as
being that guy, because it'll happen where they see you
have all the qualities and they will try to put
you to the front, try to feature you on some
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stuff that that would make you and put you in
that thing. But but it's not like you gotta raise
your hand or if you're doing stuff that is not
coming to the league, or it just won't happen.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I think what we're looking at, I think Anthony Edwards
will be not as influential, but the Allen Iverson version
of most people.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I don't even think he's the same as he was
just a year ago.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I think last year, with that playoff run, people were
all about him.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
This year, the team's not as good, right, Kat's not there.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
It doesn't feel the same to me, I agree with that,
but he's only him being twenty three or four. I
think that I'm just saying heading still towards this.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
But last year should have been a building step because
Cat's not there, you.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Know what I mean? What you mean?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
This was your year to be the guy everybody and
everybody wants to give it to him because he's the
one guy who will say something.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
He's the one guy.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
He plays defense. He says, I want to play every night.
Screw that low management. I want to ball.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I want to play that.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
He talks smack to the players, but he also has
enough respect. He's arrogant without being copy cocky. He's confident.
He's the whole package. Obviously, he's got the same build
as a Jordan N Kobe that held you know, six
five sixty six. He's got that thing in that regard.
But I feel like he's a little bit more iverson,
maybe a little more rough a on the edges that
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you know, the league would like, maybe a little more
baggage outside of the actual game that comes with it.
And I think Wimby, because you saw Wemby mad at
the All Star Game that his team lost. He cares
Wemby obviously literally a freak of nature, and how tall
he is and how his game play play, I can
see him being more the statesman and more of the
you know, Steph Curry a little more were polished if
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you will. Obviously you know speaks French and English as
the second language. But I could see that being the
case with Wemby's that guy and Edwards is you're sort
of an Allen Iverson guy. I'm real, I'm raw, I'm me,
I'm out thinking, I'm a cousin. I don't care who
I am what I am and people.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I think you're too high hopes for for ed You
know what I mean after last year and why you
keep inding it.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I just do you think it's the same as it was? No, No,
I'm like it should have had you build off. I agree,
but I'm saying he's so young.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
But other guys are coming Like I'm just saying, like
Wemby's getting better, his team is getting better, like that
now that they have.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
From the kids. Darren Fox, Darren Fox, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
What I'm saying, Like, like now that team could be
good again, not bad if Wemby's not in the playoffs
like last year, it's hard for you to be the
face of anything I look at.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I look at it like Jordan.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Though Jordan came into the league, it was Birds League,
Magic's league, Zeke Doctor j was still there, Kareem was
still there, and he was just one of oh yeah,
that's the one young girl that can score. And as
he kept getting better, kept winning, kept getting the highlights,
kept finding his you know, footing in the league, then
he became that guy. And that's what I'm saying, the
oldest thing. I'm not saying he's Jordan. What i mean
(28:21):
is he's got time. I mean he I disagree with
this with the Jordan thing.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, that's why they froze him out the All Star
Game because of as much attention. Even though those guys
were there, there was a there was a resentment already,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
He was coming in torching the league game. That's what
I said, come here like Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
For them not to want to pass the ball toimate
an All Star Game because they felt the league was
already you know what I mean, Like he was his airingess.
I know Mike was Mike, but but you know what
I mean, Eventually he became covered to the NBA when
I was a beat writer and sitting you know, off
in the in the press row watching him play.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
That's like one of the joys of my career. I
never got to see him play in person. He's one
of the you know, one of the one of those
dying I wish I was like, I never got to
see Michael Jackson before before he pass you know, that
kind of thing to see greatness in in in person.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
But the question, you know.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
What I mean is is there was your responsibility as
a young up and comer.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Is it earned or is it given?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
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Also, who do you think is going to be the
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Speaker 1 (29:35):
Uh candidate or somebody you think fits all fits the
bill to represent the league both on and off the court.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I mean, it's that simple.
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Speaker 3 (30:18):
What's up, BROTHERT? What's happening? Guy's going to talk to
you as always always.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Let's uh talk some NFL some stuff. I guess franchise
tag the Bengals. Oh, they're going to be able to
the claiming his sign and everybody and T Higgins what's
going on with the Bengals and that any money?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, here's what's happened.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
I know a lot of people are gonna nothing's official yet,
but it's trending that way.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
So they drafted Jermaine Burton out of Alabama and there
was a thought that he would replace him at the
time of last year's draft, and Burton just didn't mature enough.
And the Bengals have a history of going year to
year by player with players. They've let a lot of
guys walk at compensatory picks. That that's always something to
look at with the Bengals. But they just don't have
(31:04):
his replacement. So by the way, it's a placeholder. It's
only a one year once he signed it, it's a
fully guaranteed deal, but it's only a placeholder. They were
not even close to an extension by July fifteenth, which
which is the deadline every year.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And it's just just the.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Way they do business. You talked about money, Rob, their
they're a team that more often not does not pay up.
It's a mom and pop up. Yeah, it's why they're not.
They're just it's amazing. They've been one super both Borrow
despite the offensive line problems and so forth. Their team
that's not cash rich, they're not. They're they're bottom ten
team of available cash.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And when people don't even realize they practice outside up
until a couple of years ago, right am, I right out.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Well I'm going to give another thing, Rob Okay, this
is talking the coaches over the years, so they're personal people.
Mike Brown when he was more involved in the day
to day operation of personnel, Mike Brown was so cheap
that the coaches would do most of the scouting, which
is absurd.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Their coaches, he can't be doing that. So but they changed.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
They build a scouting staff over a number of years,
and Bill Tobinson Duke does a great job. He doesn't
have a GM title, but he's the acting general manager
as a personnel director. They actually draft well, they just
they let too many players walk. They don't build a
team the right way, by the way you have to.
They're another team that needs a copy off of what
Philly does. Why I don't know why. It does not
(32:32):
start with their offensive line. When you have an elite
quarterback like Joe Burrow, why do you not build a
great offensive line. They've never done that with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, I mean there in lies the question.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
And you mentioned Philly Adam, that was the reference that
Joe Burrow did. He said, why can't we kind of
operate like them? Everybody's getting paid over there, and guys
seem to be happy. I must switch gears and stay
with another quarterback. Matthew Stafford. What's happening here? The last
couple of seasons. His wife is chattering. He's trying to
compete with us with the show. He's got a couple
(33:02):
of seasons where hey, you know, maybe he didn't have
the greatest expectation, but they got to the postseason. If
it weren't for a fumble, maybe they're in the NFC Championship.
Why isn't he getting the money he thinks he wants
or is he not happy?
Speaker 6 (33:14):
You know, guys, he's a really good football player. He's
still playing at a very high level. They had offensive
line problems. They actually played a young lot of young
guys on the offensive line. Cooper Cup got hurt. They're
going to move Cooper Cup most lucky cut them. They're
trying to trade him. It's going to be hard.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I'll learn more.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Went up to Combine next week. But that's just a
situation that they've dealt with now. They extended Stafford's contract
three years ago. He's due for another extension or reworking
of his deal. They declined to do it last year.
They restructured it. They moved a little bit of future
money to last year. But it's not going to play Cadum.
He's only, and I say only, it's only going to
(33:52):
make twenty seven million dollars this season. That is well
below what he should be making. And that's the struggle
that they have with him and Matthew whose Look, he's
an older player. We know it at thirty seven years old,
which he just turned last week. They know that they
have to do one way or the other. He's either
going to get extended. They're going to be doing deal,
(34:13):
or he's gonna be traded.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I can't see him extending him because last year, you remember,
he almost didn't come into camp and they had to
do something right before that.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
How was the money you're talking about like this.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
They got to do something because he has he only
has two yars left. There's zero chance he plays on
twenty seven million. So that again, he's either going to
get traded or going to after you work it. But
here's the problem this is and we'll talk more about
this in the coming weeks, but I could just give
you a little bit of a heads up. The draft
for quarterbacks again, on paper, right now, there are two
(34:45):
definitely going to go. Jackson Dard of Mississippi might go
somewhere between twenty and thirty two. He's got a chance
to go in the first round. He had a good
Senior Bowl week. I was there, did really well. Arned
that Jalen Milroe should not touch the first round. I'd
be very surprised if he went in the first round.
He's a project for agency's a disaster. Other than Sam Donald,
it's pretty bad. You got Russell Wilson justin fields. You're
(35:06):
not going to make your money. You're not going to
figure out your quarterback situation if you're the Rams and
free agency at the draft right now.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So they don't have a lot of choices.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
They have to be very very careful that they have
been competitive despite a very young ruster that's not very talented.
The coaching has been great by Sean mcvain's staff, but
they don't have a future quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
That is a major problem for their football team.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Hobboss speaking of quarterbacks, and you mentioned Sam Donald. If
you're the Vikings, you're not giving him a big deal,
are you?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Or you right? I mean, like those two games really
hurt him at the end of it.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
It did, It didn't completely screw you know, It's not
like he was never going to be a fifty million
a year player.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Like some people are scared people off from him. Well
here's why, rob So.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
The thing with him, he had major problems with processing information,
Like on the field, like he just would get stuck,
he would stare at the past target. He just never
looked like a quality quarterback. He's only had one good
year and it was terrific up till the last regular
season game, in the playoff game, and now the Vikings
still I'm told they want to keep them. They might
(36:10):
look at a bridge deal. They like to keep them,
but they're just they're having problems figuring out what the
money should look like. So you never say never hear
him coming back, but they see the JJ McCarthy situation.
They spent a first round pick. Most people don't know this.
He actually he looked great in the game that he
got hurt against the Raiders in the first preseason game.
But I'm told the final two weeks before he got hurt,
(36:32):
they felt he made a big jump and then he
had a major knee injury. Troy Meniscus that he like him,
they really do. But Donald was so fascinating because I
could tell you this, there was zero Chancellor walking away
from Sam Darnold. If he played lights out and didn't
have these two bad games, we're not having the stock
bringing back. It changed everything. There's no question it changes
(36:55):
the way they look at again. They like to have
him back. It's going to be hard, and they have
other issues.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
The roster. They by the way, they really overachieved.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
They It was Darnold, it was bron Flores's absolutely phenomenal,
the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
They were way better than people thought they would be.
And but the scary part, as you go, is he
gonna do that again? Or was that just a.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Coaching Yeah, Kevin O'Connell's like the quarterback West for he
he is a really good quarterbacks developer.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Hey, get you out of here on this one real quick, Adam.
I go to the Chiefs and Robin and I. We
don't agree on a lot, but we do agree that
at some point they got to help out Patrick Mahomes.
They got to get him some real But I don't
know if it's a Cooper.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Come out to pass the game's bet regressing guys.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
It's so what's going on? What do they do to
fix it? Maybe the offensive better than this? Yeah, offensive line?
Uh is a pro. Trey Smith is going to stay
one way or the other. He used to tag or
sign toured extension. They don't have a left tackle. They
went through four guys. Joe Toney got handled their left
guard who moved to left tackle.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
That was a mistake. That was a mistake was that
was Andy. Look I'm a huge ani Red fan, but
that was just not great coaching.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, Andy had a bad will.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Was the game planning a big no running early on
and no adjustment.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
I'll deal with the running game, but that doesn't bother
as much as the problem left tackle. You knew you
knew coming into you had a problem right and then
they stuck with Joe Toooney.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
He was her left guard.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
He hadn't played left tackle since college eight years ago,
and he got handled and at halftime they're down twenty
four to nothing. You got one more shot put in
DJ Humphreys at left tackle. That's what they should have done.
They didn't do it. Their past the game has regrets
the last two seasons. Kelsey can't move well anymore. They
don't want to retire. I got to tell you, I
talked to someone who knows him very well, and he said,
(38:40):
if he gets his ear, he's going to tell him
to retire. Because when you look like this, when you
know you're in your last legs, your body.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Tells you to retire.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
But the one thing that players say they hate going
out like that. That was an embarrassing performance from the Chiefs.
They like this kid, Noah Gray, by the way, who's
his backup? Who's Look, he's not close to what Kelsey was.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
In his crime.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
And that's a position they have to look at. But
the big thing for them is they they have to
They have a couple offensive line pieces, by the way,
they need a running back. They have work to do,
Man Brett Feature general manager that they Yeah, I have
a hard look. I know they have a long offseason.
Remember folks, the season doesn't start till September. But they've
got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
All right.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
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