February 24, 2025 • 29 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us if sports media members owe JJ Redick an apology now that he's got the Los Angeles Lakers looking like one of the best teams in the NBA over the last two months and discuss all the scuttlebutt surrounding the Philadelphia Eagles pending invitation to visit the White House after winning the Super Bowl. Plus, former NFL scout Brentley Weissman swings by to discuss Shedeur Sanders’ draft stock, what Travis Hunter’s best position in the NFL would be, how much value he puts into the NFL Draft Combine itself and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I know the Lakers won the championship on Saturday night
they beat the Nuggets, so now they're the leading candidate
to win the NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Is that? Is that? What it is?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
This ridiculous topic about JJ Reddick is old and apology
is absolutely ridiculous. Nobody owes him Jack, and I'm gonna
tell you why, and then you can tell me why
you think.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So, it is not wrong for.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
People to question the hiring of someone who has no experience,
not even at the high school level, who has never
been coach, never been a coach in any circumstance. So
that whole idea of people questioning it and doubting whether
or not he could do it is totally legit. It's
not like he was a coach before and people are like, oh,
(01:13):
I don't know if he could coach or not. Well, okay,
and that's not the normal route for most people to
become a coach.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
They become assistant. First, they put in their time.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We've seen a lot of guys do that, and then
of course they get run out right away. But the
bottom line is that's where we are. And here's the
other part, which is just totally ridiculous. So if you
want that, you want to give him an apology. Because
they beat the Nuggets, who finally lost after nine straight wins, finally,
and the Lakers played great finally, but nobody said I
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want jj Reddick fired or he should be no, no, no,
hear me out when they lost to Portland by twenty
and what was the other game at home Arlotte with
the Charlotte those games you weren't saying. Then people owe
him an apology when he lost those games. So when
they win one big game, nobody owes him an apology.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
It's a big it's a full order.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Let's see what happens if they get knocked out in
the first round. That he'll be no better than what
Darvin Ham did. If he somehow does something more, then
we'll talk about that.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, ROBZ coming in here and putt a little Hawaiian
spice up on things. I see what you're doing, rob G,
Welcome back, rob G.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
No.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
JJ Reddick has one thing I'm looking at with the
Lakers is sometimes in the season named the sport, named
the league, there's a moment when you kind of go
huh and you look up. It could be a stat
it could be some new bit of information that you're like, huh.
And one of the things for the Lakers that they've
been doing very well, and I give credit to JJ Reddick,
(02:56):
is that they're fourteen and four in their last eighteen,
which it's almost twenty games, which is almost a quarter
of the season. So I gotta give them some credit
wars due. Obviously, I'm similar to you. We both talked
about it. That's not crowned the man J J. M.
Robb teasing them. Call them JJ Riley is and pat Riley.
People want to call them that, and yes they both
have cool hair dudes. But let's not crown him that already.
(03:18):
Let's see what he can do. But right now I
like to give credit wards due. The Lakers are fourteen
and four and the again in the last eighteen best
record in the NBA. First, this is the key part
that if they want to have a chance of doing anything,
they better keep going first and defensive rating, which is huge, because.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Do you think they're a good defensive team. I'm gonna
ask you that, just just forget the number. Do you
think they're good defensive?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
That?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
They looked really good a few times. They gotta get
it get they gotta get it together. They got to
find a whole They look good against the Hornets at home.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
They look lazy, they look curious. That's all good they have.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
They have to find now that they have Luca too,
They're gonna have to find out a way to play
defense with Luca, whether it's ways to keep him hidden
or getting the maximum defense out of him.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
But almost twenty games, I can't knock.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
You if you're first in defensive effort and you're eighth
and offensive rating and third and net rating and only
teams are behind. I mean, they got great wins over
the Nuggets, they got great wins of the Celtics, they
got wins of the Knicks, the Clippers, and the Warriors
to beat them twice. So I have to give him
some credit for starting to find a nice rhythm overall
in the past almost twenty games. Now everything changes because
(04:30):
they got Luca right, and hopefully for them in a
positive way. Hopefully Lebron, I think, has seen something where
he goes, oh you mean when I.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Go to the bench, we're up eight.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
We don't have to be down one when I get
back in, or fighting for our life to stay alive,
because we've got a guy who can control the offense,
who can control the flow of things, and all of
a sudden we can still be able to be dominant
even if I'm on the bench. Oh you mean, I
don't have to be the best player on the floor
for both teams every night of my life.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
And they see the best.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Player on the team on the on the court when
he doesn't even play any defense.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You might be the best offensive player. What I'm saying, Rob,
I'm not saying. He is Dennis Robin reincarnated, and you
know exactly what I'm saying. And so for him, this
has to be the most welcome sight in a very
long time for him that he can look at the
team and say I'm off tonight, or I can play
second fiddle.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
He never felt that way when Anthony Davis was on
the team. Of course he felt like that.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
But I'm saying, specifically from a shot creator, Anthony Davis
is not that And you know that Anthony Davis is
not getting that way about what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
No, I'm saying specific guy helped win a championship. Ad
is amazing. Nobody, nobody is taking it away.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm talking about rob If you've watched basketball enough to know,
we're specifically saying if Lebron ain't creating, if he's not
the one getting the flow, that's been the struggle. It's
not that Ad can't give you twenty eight to ten
on a lot of nights. It's that who can get
the flow going, who can get guys at the shots.
Who's gonna get that in that corner? That three and
(06:01):
Luca finally for him in that sense, presents that since
Kyrie irving, another guy who can create for himself and others,
and so that has to be a welcome side. But
if they can continue, Vanderbilt has been great if he
stays healthy, because that's really been the only issue. He's
the perfect guy that just going muck the game up.
You saw what he was doing, getting in Yo Kisch
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and getting him all ugly up the game a little bit.
You need that with a guy like Yokis because he's
so dominant. So that was a great game to see.
Everyone was active, everyone was playing defense, everyone bought in.
They're absolutely gonna have some stinkers here or there. That's
just part of the nature as to continue to try
to find a way to implement Luca. But I gotta
give him credit again. Fourteen to four the last eighteen.
(06:43):
That ain't nothing to sniff sleep on. Almost twenty games,
almost a quarter of the season. To have the best
defense and the best offense to the eighth best offensive rating,
that's real data. So I got to give him credit.
I was hard on JJ as you mentioned, we should be.
He shouldn't just be welcomed with open up. Let's see
what he can do. Let's he can prove itself. And
the team has been playing well. So I got to
(07:04):
give him credit where it's due.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, I'll hold my credit. I'm gonna have it as
a layaway or something. Yeah, he got to go on
layaway because to me, here this team with those players,
if they don't get out of the first round and
they lose like they did a year ago, then the
month hasn't changed. And that's that's the issue that I have.
I'm not going to be premature and celebrate a stretch
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in the season, because if we didn't celebrate it when
they just had the two stinkers out of four games,
when they lost to Portland and they lost to Charlotte,
that wasn't two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That was last week, right, and that's in the collective
of the eighteen.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Right, but still last week, you wouldn't be saying you
want to give him credit because they still would have won.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Twelve out of whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
You got to thirteen out of fourteen, thirteen out of seventeen.
What's the difference you got one win, because it's just
that they beat a good team.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
That streaking. I'm trying to say it, you know, like
you wouldn't you bring that up? But I have them
a lot of it. We've had a lot of conversations.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Again, that wasn't the conversation you would have had. That
was a horrible They settled.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Charlotte played a great defensive and they went right at
the zone on them. Portland they got lazy and they
were just settling for threes. And when they do that,
they're not gonna win, and Lebron has somebody where he's
in I'm tired, I'm forty. He has somebody and say
you go do it for the first time quite some time.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Who can create? Ad is amazing, but he's not necessarily creator.
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Speaker 4 (08:39):
Rob G.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So already we got conflicting reports. All yeah, this was
getting kind of confusing. First story we saw was Eagles
ain't going to the White House. Okay, that made sense
to me. Then the White House said we invite the
Eagles to the White House. Yet then Adam Jeff to
Rob G said what.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Well, it wasn't gives Adam Jeff you know all this work,
you know the sausage made in this peninsula America. We
like Adam Schefter, we like Albert Breer, we like Ian Rappaport.
They report what they are told. So all at the
same time, an Eagle source texted these guys and here's
the exact quote.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Albert Breer was honest about it.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Team source from the Eagles just texted me quote we
would be honored to visit the White House. It's one
of the things we had to look forward to doing,
and we look forward to receiving the invitation, which means,
if Donald Trump extends the invite, Eagles.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Are going to the White House.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And here's Tellvin what we want to talk about and
we want to hear from people to eight seven seven
ninety nine, oh Fox, because this is one of those topics.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, we had one Friday.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, there is there an obligation to go to the
White House. Do you respect the office or do you
respect the person that's in office? And that's where it
breaks down. Some people say, we Gaul has done matter
who's the president. He's the president and you should respect that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Other people say, no, if I can't be honest, look
eye to eye and feel good about the situation, I
don't want to be involved. It's not the end of
the world. You don't have to go. I don't believe
people have to go anywhere. You should want to go
if it's a if it's an honor, if it's something
that you feel.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Really good about. There would be there were people didn't
go to Obama that okay. People don't talk about that.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
They don't remember there are former professional athletes who didn't
go to the White House because Barack.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Obama was in the White House.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Huh So I don't understand if there was somebody if
Jalen Hurts, and I'm just throwing his name out, Jalen
Hurts hasn't said anything. I'm not putting words in his mouth.
If he said I'd rather not thank you for the invite.
I appreciate it, but I'd rather not. Would I be
mad at him?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I think everybody has a right. That's what makes this
country supposedly, is that we have the right to choose
and decide what it is we want to do. If
we want to burn an American flag on the steps
of a courthouse, you're protected. Whether we think it's disgraceful
(11:17):
or not, you're protected. So if you can do that
and you could talk about the government or the president
or whatever, and the police don't show up to your
house to put you in prison for forty years, then
my god, Yes, you can also say thank you, but no,
thank you don't have to be disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I'd rather not come. That's where I'm at. I just
so so check this out.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Rob the loat or the goat the luckiest of all time,
or the goats as ninety nine percent of people, No, Chris,
and I call you Chris because he says the same thing.
It ain't ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
There's plenty of.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
People here are right now serious, my bad ninety nine
point nine percent? Whatever, you're right? Can you see this
saying out that chair falls on you again?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Whatever? The goat the low.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Tom Brady didn't go in twenty fifteen to see President
Obama and Robert Kraft. It was public knowledge that he
had donated a million dollars to now president would become
President Trump, now President Trump again his uh campaign? Remember
what was in the locker of Tom Brady was he
(12:32):
was getting changed while you know then he didn't know
how I got want to talk about it, nobody, Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
You know what else?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
He might be the goat of amnesia. Boy, Tom Brady,
don't be remembering nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't remember how my had gear. I don't remember
old Boy's number. I was texting it even do you.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Remember doing when the kneeling went down and everything. He
was like, oh, I really don't know what's happened. I
don't even know what's going It's crazy your teammates, Neil,
there were guys.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
You have no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
So I'm got that old Allegedly Jordan Republicans buy his shoes,
two of them. His might even be more blatant because
he's got a hat that said make America great again.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
That's his choice.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Then him, then him, and now his ex wife Giuselle
went out in a way to say that they weren't
supporting him.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
That right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So so my point is Tom Brady, Oh, he had
a family obligation. Okay, cool, Yeah, we saw the maca hat.
You don't gun, but guess what, that's his choice. Robert
Kraft donates a million dollars. He didn't want to show
up to the when Obama was there as well. So
this has been happening prior to President Trump picked the administration,
whether it be you know, twenty sixteen or this current one.
(13:39):
This has happened before. We've seen Craig Hodges go and
where certainly people make protests of this, and that's.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
The beauty of George Bush a letter.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
He gave George Bush a letter he was warning hiking
the garb the Islam. So this has happened. This is
also the beauty. You can be aggravated, you can be annoyed,
you can disagree. That is literally part of the beauty
of Americas. We all have rights, we all have freedoms,
we all have liberties. We all should have all these
rights and liberties and freedoms. Inequality. That's what many folks
(14:09):
still fight for and that is their prerogative. And to me,
it shouldn't be Remember when the Eagles in twenty eighteen
were gonna go, well, they rescinded the invitation because they
got when that the Eagles didn't want to come. So
to me, I believe the administration the office shouldn't be petty,
because the office or the administration should be we understand
(14:31):
your rights, your privilege, your freedoms. We're gonna extended invitation
to everybody hockey, MLB, baseball, football, college teams.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
If you don't want to come, that's fine. We don't
take it personally. That is exactly why we fight. That
is exactly what we protect your freedoms. It shouldn't be
uninviting and rescending invitations and feelings petty eddy because they're
supposed to be above any of that because it's when
you hear soldiers say, I may not agree with what
Colin Kaepernick was doing, but I literally fight for his
(14:58):
freedom to simply do that. When I fight for your freedoms,
it isn't for your freedoms for me to agree with everything.
It isn't your freedoms to good. You better align with everything.
I believe people don't understand that.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
And when I.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Fight for your freedom, it's literally for you to be
able to do what you don't want to do. And
in some cases it's not vote and in some cases
is vote left for right or independent. In some cases
it's to neiel. In some cases it is to stand
loud and proud holding the flag. That is literally your
right right to freedom and your right to burn a flag.
So to me, the to the whole, the administration, White
(15:32):
House playing games where understand we're not invite, well, we're gonna invite. Well,
we're gona wait to see how they feel what they say.
Tell you what that's I don't like that, that's petty.
You're supposed to stand on the freedoms and the uh
the you know, the rights that Americans have. We're extending
off for as we do to every team that wins
a championship, come on out.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
We love to have you.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
We got McDonald's for you, like we gave the one
college team, come on out.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
If you choose not to no love loss, we appreciate. Well.
Here here's the other thing. And this is what I'm
gonna tell you.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
They probably got a call and all speculation the Eagles, okay,
from from the Commissioner's office or whatever, because you know,
Donald Trump is on a revenge tour and the NFL
is in his sights, right, Like remember they didn't allow
him to buy the Buffalo Bills. He wasn't didn't qualify
the money wise, they want to know part of him.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
And in fact, he's the whole Kaepernick and right and
all that.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Right he always has, you know, uh, vendetta against the NFL.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
You don't forget.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So that's why I'm saying they probably got a call
to be like just do not you know what I mean,
Just not put that out boy, you know what I mean,
because we don't. We don't want to have to go
deal with the other stuff that's gonna come. He's gonna
be saying this and that and then try to go
after the NFL and all that because that's what that's.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
What I think it is. I think because he knows
that like.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
People would rather not come and he doesn't want to
be embarrassed that they basically.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Stick point because it's personal for him, as are many things.
And like we said, the vendetta are whole things revenge
to her. Whereas other people may say, man, that's their right,
it's I.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Don't agree with.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I remember Obama making a big deal in people to
s obs because they want to kneel and they're supposed
to be this and fighting with players like you know,
we lived that in twenty sixteen, seventeen eighteen, from the
Kaepernick situation to calling out Lebron, calling out Steph calling
out the to the point Rob's remember it went from
Jerry Jones, all right, kneeling, No cowboys gonna kneel.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
We ain't having that. I'm the owner. They all kneel down.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Even Jerry Jones kneeling, and technically they did it before
the national anthem, so they didn't deal to the anthem.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
But Jerry Jones even took a knee and then then.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
By the way, the Internet is gona internet, they put
a dashiki on him and it was hilarious.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
But so my point is, who was the other one
who did the same thing with Pelosi? No, no, no,
Ray Lewis remember that way him and Kimmy Shannon got
into it over yep, because he wound up and then
said he wasn't kneeling, he was praying. Yeah, remember that.
I do remember that. I think they had fallen out
after Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah. But the whole point is, you're right.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Roger Goodell's probably like, look, please, please, let's not relive
this again. We've gotten past it. And we know when
you say something Jalen Hurts comes out or the owner
of the uh the Eagles. We know he's been very vocal.
He supports a lot of liberal and progressive ideals. He's
donated money to the Biden administration the Obama administration is
no secret, so we know he's very much uh you know,
(18:27):
a left winged person. So if he comes out and
says something, you know what I mean. This is how
it starts. You haven't heard from him, and you know
how it goes. You start talking, and especially now because
he's you know, he's more in bolden because this is
his last administration allegedly where now what I got to lose.
I don't have to play the game. I never played
the game. I really don't have to play the game.
(18:48):
He being President Trump.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Well, the only thing is the midterms. Yeah, that's the
only thing.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And I said his last allegedly because he's already talking
about trying to change some things.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
You know that. Does he know he's almost eighty doing that?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
What are you gonna say, pork chop away. He's trying
to change things where you can run again. And mind you,
the bill, by the way, the bill is not that
you can get another term. You have to be the
sitting president to get another third term. Meaning everybody went, oh,
so Obama or Biden or somebody else can get another term.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
No, you have to be currently sitting. Is the bill
currently that's up? Dude? How rigg do you have to
be to do this? I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
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Speaker 6 (19:31):
What's more likely Trump gets a third term or Rob
Parker actually retires in fools?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I'm control I'm going.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Trump I Trump, No, No, No, it has to go
through No, what's more likely to happen?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I know but it Loki has to go.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Okay, So I'm asking you what's more likely to happen
Trump's third term or Rob actually retires.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I'm gonna have to go with the Orange Man. Nobody
believes you don't have to go with the Orange Rob, Yeah,
I think yeah.
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Speaker 4 (20:21):
What's happening?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Hey, guys, thanks for having me. You know, I was
just hearing you guys to talk about Canada. I went
to Vancouver for the first time two years ago. It
was a lot of fun, good city over there.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I haven't been to Vancouver, which is not too far
from Seattle, good day, but I hear very good things.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
About I gotta find you know what, you want to
find some new and different places, right.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
You can't just Miami, La Vegas. You got to mix
it up.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
No, no doubt, got to mix it up. Got to
mix it.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Up, all right, Bretley, thank you for being here. But
I saw some NFL. I saw some combine. So Rob
and I talked a little bit ago early in the show.
If out had brought this up four months ago, give
or take, just sure should Jorae Sanders was, you know,
top five pick on one of the first two quarterbacks
ago and it was kind of a given.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Did he do something that we missed something? How did
he hurt this?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Where we have now scouts are coming out anonymously saying
he shouldn't even be drafted. We we literally had one
on our show that said I wouldn't draft him at all.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
We had that on our show.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
We had another scout you know you read, saying he's
out of the first round when all he did was
produce forty one hundred yards thirty seven touchdowns. He won
in high school, one of Jackson State, one at Colorado.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
What are we missing?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, look, I think right now in this class, it's
just not a really sexy quarterback class. Not a ton
of type around this year's class. So what we're seeing
is we're trying to We're seeing people you know, in
the media and scouts look for ways to kind of
keep things going. They're trying to find things that are
(21:52):
are really not there with Chador just so they can
talk about it. Under no circumstance that Chador do anything
during the season, you know, throughout this kind of pre
draft process to hurt his stock, right, that all of
that is just people manufacturing narrative to help, you know,
drive whatever they're trying to land. I don't I don't
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know where it's coming from Chador. I'm not the biggest
fan of store at Midaly. I think he's you know,
certainly worth a first round pick. I think he has
a lower level starting quarterback talent in the NFL, and
you put some good players around him, he can succeed.
Do I think he's uh, franchise altering level talent. No,
(22:40):
But the disrespect and the slander that Shador has been
catching over the past few weeks is really puzzling. I Mean,
you have folks coming out the woodwork talking about Tyler
Shuck from Louisville now being got to the head of
Sugar Sanders, when in all we saw last year was
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Shad door, line up the scoreboard and make all kinds
of ridiculous grows. So I think right now we're just
seeing guys, you know, look to kind of just hurt
sador stalk for whatever reason, but really trying to just
kind of derive whatever narrative they're trying to get across.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Bretley, let me ask you about about the combine.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
The scouts go, they played college football, you have tape,
you've watched them, You've gone to games live to see the.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Guy play and all the other stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
What does the combine do other than for somebody who
maybe wasn't that good in college who you get another
look at. Like for somebody who maybe doesn't rank that high,
maybe that helps them. But if you've played well at
a high level and during your college career, I don't
see how that helps you at all.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah, you know, so the combine really, I mean, there's
two sides of the combine. Right. There's what you see
on TV with all the testing, the forty the kind
of on field drills. Then there's all this stuff that
happens off TV. That's the meetings, that's the medical that's
the kind of one on one interviews with the teams,
and so all of that are really really important no
(24:12):
matter which player you are, you know what I mean,
you have to go meet with the coaches, you have.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
To go meet yeah, and so, but in terms of
you know, on the field and kind of where a
player might be able.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
To help or hurt themselves, I think we're up to
your point. You know, there is a certain level of
athlete and prospects to where the combine might do only
harm to them, right Like, for example, Optial Carter, I
think I just saw today he's opting out of the combine.
And same with Ashton Jens and both of those prospects,
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in my eyes, they shouldn't do with a bang thing
in Indianapolis. You know, their tape really speaks for itself.
We know they're blee chip prospects. We know they're easily
you know, to the top five players in this class.
The four player like and this is a good examp
Will Johnson in the corner out of Michigan. His tape
to me speaks well, he's a high end NFL corner
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all day long. However, what also came up on tape
is you see receivers pulling awatsman down the field. So
you question his deep speed to fast these Well, if
he comes out and runs a strong forty. You know
this Sunday in the combine, we're talking about a player
who's being predicted somewhere between that pick fifteen to pick twenty,
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here are the four to fourth rob he's going top five,
he's going top seven, and so I do think, you know,
this is obviously a case by case basis, but you know,
there is a lot of opportunity for players really help
themselves depending on how they test.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Britley Weisman former NFL Scott with the Chargers our guests
on the ocoup of Robin kelvin Magic City Monday. Let
me ask you this, just stay of the combine. Somebody
who's going to be a dB in the combine? Travis Hunter? Uh,
is that where you have wanted them to see? If
you're a scoular, are you saying man would love to
see him play receiver?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Like?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
How are people handling this guy so dynamic on both
sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yeah, this is one of the more fascinating scouting kind
of just questions and really overall kind of just storylines
that I've seen over the past few years. Because Travis
Hunter truly is Italy at both positions, And it's just
really a matter of kind of how you value receiver
versus how you value corner. I'll say for me, I
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would actually have him play receiver and receiver only. I
know that's definitely not the popular answer.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Now, now let me.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Ask you why is that From the standpoint, we just
saw sho Hail Tarani who for years they never let
anybody pitch, and you know, and be a hitter as well,
and that is, guys, the biggest thing going, you know
in baseball. Why not give him a chance, right like,
to just see if he could pull it off.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
It could be a marvel in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Now, if OI he decides he doesn't want to do it,
or he struggles on one half of you decide no,
it didn't work, why can't he at least try, That's
what I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
He can try theoretically. I just feel like it is
such it is going to be such a challenge. I mean,
this is a seventeen game NFL even you know, playing
both ways is just he Look he did it in
college and he won the hEDS when it should be.
It was truly remarkable to see. But with that said,
I mean he's in his sophomore season. He dealt with
(27:29):
injuries at Colorado. He's just not He's up the biggest,
most durable player. I hate so jeopardizing put him at
risk because he has such a unique talent. But yeah,
I mean, I don't know if there's necessarily harm and
experimenting and then trying to see if they can do
both sides, but there is some risk to that with
(27:51):
potential injury and you know, conditioning and things of that nature.
But for me, you know, I just look at his game.
You have Washington Callerrado. He is so dynamic with the
football in his hands, so explosive, and I think, you know,
he's only going to get better at receiver because I mean,
at the end of the day, he really won with
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just his straight up speed and quickness and ability to
play the ball in the air. He's not that a
good route runner really right now. He is not a
receiver who is very nuanced and can set up defenders.
Those are all things I think he can get coached
up on if he dedicates most of his time to
playing receiver and really kind of build up that skill
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set because to me, I mean, he has top five
receiver upside in the NFL. And you know, as we've
seen in this league, gets the pack in the league,
and good offense beats good defense one hundred percent of
the time. And so I'd rather just take a Pro
Bowl receiver rather than trying to figure out, you know, hey,
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is he a corner and give him the snatch. But
I just think he can be more actual as a receiver.
And that's around with Flames.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I know the Lakers won the championship on Saturday night
they beat the Nuggets, so now they're the leading candidate
to win the NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Is that? Is that? What it is?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
This ridiculous topic about JJ Reddick is old and apology
is absolutely ridiculous. Nobody owes him Jack, and I'm gonna
tell you why, and then you can tell me why
you think.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So, it is not wrong for.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
People to question the hiring of someone who has no experience,
not even at the high school level, who has never
been coach, never been a coach in any circumstance. So
that whole idea of people questioning it and doubting whether
or not he could do it is totally legit. It's
not like he was a coach before and people are like, oh,
(01:13):
I don't know if he could coach or not. Well, okay,
and that's not the normal route for most people to
become a coach.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
They become assistant. First, they put in their time.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We've seen a lot of guys do that, and then
of course they get run out right away. But the
bottom line is that's where we are. And here's the
other part, which is just totally ridiculous. So if you
want that, you want to give him an apology. Because
they beat the Nuggets, who finally lost after nine straight wins, finally,
and the Lakers played great finally, but nobody said I
(01:48):
want jj Reddick fired or he should be no, no, no,
hear me out when they lost to Portland by twenty
and what was the other game at home Arlotte with
the Charlotte those games you weren't saying. Then people owe
him an apology when he lost those games. So when
they win one big game, nobody owes him an apology.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
It's a big it's a full order.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Let's see what happens if they get knocked out in
the first round. That he'll be no better than what
Darvin Ham did. If he somehow does something more, then
we'll talk about that.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, ROBZ coming in here and putt a little Hawaiian
spice up on things. I see what you're doing, rob G,
Welcome back, rob G.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
No.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
JJ Reddick has one thing I'm looking at with the
Lakers is sometimes in the season named the sport, named
the league, there's a moment when you kind of go
huh and you look up. It could be a stat
it could be some new bit of information that you're like, huh.
And one of the things for the Lakers that they've
been doing very well, and I give credit to JJ Reddick,
(02:56):
is that they're fourteen and four in their last eighteen,
which it's almost twenty games, which is almost a quarter
of the season. So I gotta give them some credit
wars due. Obviously, I'm similar to you. We both talked
about it. That's not crowned the man J J. M.
Robb teasing them. Call them JJ Riley is and pat Riley.
People want to call them that, and yes they both
have cool hair dudes. But let's not crown him that already.
(03:18):
Let's see what he can do. But right now I
like to give credit wards due. The Lakers are fourteen
and four and the again in the last eighteen best
record in the NBA. First, this is the key part
that if they want to have a chance of doing anything,
they better keep going first and defensive rating, which is huge, because.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Do you think they're a good defensive team. I'm gonna
ask you that, just just forget the number. Do you
think they're good defensive?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
That?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
They looked really good a few times. They gotta get
it get they gotta get it together. They got to
find a whole They look good against the Hornets at home.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
They look lazy, they look curious. That's all good they have.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
They have to find now that they have Luca too,
They're gonna have to find out a way to play
defense with Luca, whether it's ways to keep him hidden
or getting the maximum defense out of him.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
But almost twenty games, I can't knock.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
You if you're first in defensive effort and you're eighth
and offensive rating and third and net rating and only
teams are behind. I mean, they got great wins over
the Nuggets, they got great wins of the Celtics, they
got wins of the Knicks, the Clippers, and the Warriors
to beat them twice. So I have to give him
some credit for starting to find a nice rhythm overall
in the past almost twenty games. Now everything changes because
(04:30):
they got Luca right, and hopefully for them in a
positive way. Hopefully Lebron, I think, has seen something where
he goes, oh you mean when I.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Go to the bench, we're up eight.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
We don't have to be down one when I get
back in, or fighting for our life to stay alive,
because we've got a guy who can control the offense,
who can control the flow of things, and all of
a sudden we can still be able to be dominant
even if I'm on the bench. Oh you mean, I
don't have to be the best player on the floor
for both teams every night of my life.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
And they see the best.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Player on the team on the on the court when
he doesn't even play any defense.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You might be the best offensive player. What I'm saying, Rob,
I'm not saying. He is Dennis Robin reincarnated, and you
know exactly what I'm saying. And so for him, this
has to be the most welcome sight in a very
long time for him that he can look at the
team and say I'm off tonight, or I can play
second fiddle.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
He never felt that way when Anthony Davis was on
the team. Of course he felt like that.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
But I'm saying, specifically from a shot creator, Anthony Davis
is not that And you know that Anthony Davis is
not getting that way about what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
No, I'm saying specific guy helped win a championship. Ad
is amazing. Nobody, nobody is taking it away.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm talking about rob If you've watched basketball enough to know,
we're specifically saying if Lebron ain't creating, if he's not
the one getting the flow, that's been the struggle. It's
not that Ad can't give you twenty eight to ten
on a lot of nights. It's that who can get
the flow going, who can get guys at the shots.
Who's gonna get that in that corner? That three and
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Luca finally for him in that sense, presents that since
Kyrie irving, another guy who can create for himself and others,
and so that has to be a welcome side. But
if they can continue, Vanderbilt has been great if he
stays healthy, because that's really been the only issue. He's
the perfect guy that just going muck the game up.
You saw what he was doing, getting in Yo Kisch
(06:22):
and getting him all ugly up the game a little bit.
You need that with a guy like Yokis because he's
so dominant. So that was a great game to see.
Everyone was active, everyone was playing defense, everyone bought in.
They're absolutely gonna have some stinkers here or there. That's
just part of the nature as to continue to try
to find a way to implement Luca. But I gotta
give him credit again. Fourteen to four the last eighteen.
(06:43):
That ain't nothing to sniff sleep on. Almost twenty games,
almost a quarter of the season. To have the best
defense and the best offense to the eighth best offensive rating,
that's real data. So I got to give him credit.
I was hard on JJ as you mentioned, we should be.
He shouldn't just be welcomed with open up. Let's see
what he can do. Let's he can prove itself. And
the team has been playing well. So I got to
(07:04):
give him credit where it's due.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, I'll hold my credit. I'm gonna have it as
a layaway or something. Yeah, he got to go on
layaway because to me, here this team with those players,
if they don't get out of the first round and
they lose like they did a year ago, then the
month hasn't changed. And that's that's the issue that I have.
I'm not going to be premature and celebrate a stretch
(07:25):
in the season, because if we didn't celebrate it when
they just had the two stinkers out of four games,
when they lost to Portland and they lost to Charlotte,
that wasn't two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That was last week, right, and that's in the collective
of the eighteen.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Right, but still last week, you wouldn't be saying you
want to give him credit because they still would have won.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Twelve out of whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
You got to thirteen out of fourteen, thirteen out of seventeen.
What's the difference you got one win, because it's just
that they beat a good team.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
That streaking. I'm trying to say it, you know, like
you wouldn't you bring that up? But I have them
a lot of it. We've had a lot of conversations.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Again, that wasn't the conversation you would have had. That
was a horrible They settled.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Charlotte played a great defensive and they went right at
the zone on them. Portland they got lazy and they
were just settling for threes. And when they do that,
they're not gonna win, and Lebron has somebody where he's
in I'm tired, I'm forty. He has somebody and say
you go do it for the first time quite some time.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Who can create? Ad is amazing, but he's not necessarily creator.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
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Speaker 4 (08:39):
Rob G.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So already we got conflicting reports. All yeah, this was
getting kind of confusing. First story we saw was Eagles
ain't going to the White House. Okay, that made sense
to me. Then the White House said we invite the
Eagles to the White House. Yet then Adam Jeff to
Rob G said what.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Well, it wasn't gives Adam Jeff you know all this work,
you know the sausage made in this peninsula America. We
like Adam Schefter, we like Albert Breer, we like Ian Rappaport.
They report what they are told. So all at the
same time, an Eagle source texted these guys and here's
the exact quote.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Albert Breer was honest about it.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Team source from the Eagles just texted me quote we
would be honored to visit the White House. It's one
of the things we had to look forward to doing,
and we look forward to receiving the invitation, which means,
if Donald Trump extends the invite, Eagles.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Are going to the White House.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And here's Tellvin what we want to talk about and
we want to hear from people to eight seven seven
ninety nine, oh Fox, because this is one of those topics.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, we had one Friday.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, there is there an obligation to go to the
White House. Do you respect the office or do you
respect the person that's in office? And that's where it
breaks down. Some people say, we Gaul has done matter
who's the president. He's the president and you should respect that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Other people say, no, if I can't be honest, look
eye to eye and feel good about the situation, I
don't want to be involved. It's not the end of
the world. You don't have to go. I don't believe
people have to go anywhere. You should want to go
if it's a if it's an honor, if it's something
that you feel.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Really good about. There would be there were people didn't
go to Obama that okay. People don't talk about that.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
They don't remember there are former professional athletes who didn't
go to the White House because Barack.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Obama was in the White House.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Huh So I don't understand if there was somebody if
Jalen Hurts, and I'm just throwing his name out, Jalen
Hurts hasn't said anything. I'm not putting words in his mouth.
If he said I'd rather not thank you for the invite.
I appreciate it, but I'd rather not. Would I be
mad at him?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I think everybody has a right. That's what makes this
country supposedly, is that we have the right to choose
and decide what it is we want to do. If
we want to burn an American flag on the steps
of a courthouse, you're protected. Whether we think it's disgraceful
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or not, you're protected. So if you can do that
and you could talk about the government or the president
or whatever, and the police don't show up to your
house to put you in prison for forty years, then
my god, Yes, you can also say thank you, but no,
thank you don't have to be disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I'd rather not come. That's where I'm at. I just
so so check this out.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Rob the loat or the goat the luckiest of all time,
or the goats as ninety nine percent of people, No, Chris,
and I call you Chris because he says the same thing.
It ain't ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
There's plenty of.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
People here are right now serious, my bad ninety nine
point nine percent? Whatever, you're right? Can you see this
saying out that chair falls on you again?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Whatever? The goat the low.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Tom Brady didn't go in twenty fifteen to see President
Obama and Robert Kraft. It was public knowledge that he
had donated a million dollars to now president would become
President Trump, now President Trump again his uh campaign? Remember
what was in the locker of Tom Brady was he
(12:32):
was getting changed while you know then he didn't know
how I got want to talk about it, nobody, Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
You know what else?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
He might be the goat of amnesia. Boy, Tom Brady,
don't be remembering nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't remember how my had gear. I don't remember
old Boy's number. I was texting it even do you.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Remember doing when the kneeling went down and everything. He
was like, oh, I really don't know what's happened. I
don't even know what's going It's crazy your teammates, Neil,
there were guys.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
You have no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
So I'm got that old Allegedly Jordan Republicans buy his shoes,
two of them. His might even be more blatant because
he's got a hat that said make America great again.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
That's his choice.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Then him, then him, and now his ex wife Giuselle
went out in a way to say that they weren't
supporting him.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
That right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So so my point is Tom Brady, Oh, he had
a family obligation. Okay, cool, Yeah, we saw the maca hat.
You don't gun, but guess what, that's his choice. Robert
Kraft donates a million dollars. He didn't want to show
up to the when Obama was there as well. So
this has been happening prior to President Trump picked the administration,
whether it be you know, twenty sixteen or this current one.
(13:39):
This has happened before. We've seen Craig Hodges go and
where certainly people make protests of this, and that's.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
The beauty of George Bush a letter.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
He gave George Bush a letter he was warning hiking
the garb the Islam. So this has happened. This is
also the beauty. You can be aggravated, you can be annoyed,
you can disagree. That is literally part of the beauty
of Americas. We all have rights, we all have freedoms,
we all have liberties. We all should have all these
rights and liberties and freedoms. Inequality. That's what many folks
(14:09):
still fight for and that is their prerogative. And to me,
it shouldn't be Remember when the Eagles in twenty eighteen
were gonna go, well, they rescinded the invitation because they
got when that the Eagles didn't want to come. So
to me, I believe the administration the office shouldn't be petty,
because the office or the administration should be we understand
(14:31):
your rights, your privilege, your freedoms. We're gonna extended invitation
to everybody hockey, MLB, baseball, football, college teams.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
If you don't want to come, that's fine. We don't
take it personally. That is exactly why we fight. That
is exactly what we protect your freedoms. It shouldn't be
uninviting and rescending invitations and feelings petty eddy because they're
supposed to be above any of that because it's when
you hear soldiers say, I may not agree with what
Colin Kaepernick was doing, but I literally fight for his
(14:58):
freedom to simply do that. When I fight for your freedoms,
it isn't for your freedoms for me to agree with everything.
It isn't your freedoms to good. You better align with everything.
I believe people don't understand that.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
And when I.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Fight for your freedom, it's literally for you to be
able to do what you don't want to do. And
in some cases it's not vote and in some cases
is vote left for right or independent. In some cases
it's to neiel. In some cases it is to stand
loud and proud holding the flag. That is literally your
right right to freedom and your right to burn a flag.
So to me, the to the whole, the administration, White
(15:32):
House playing games where understand we're not invite, well, we're gonna invite. Well,
we're gona wait to see how they feel what they say.
Tell you what that's I don't like that, that's petty.
You're supposed to stand on the freedoms and the uh
the you know, the rights that Americans have. We're extending
off for as we do to every team that wins
a championship, come on out.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
We love to have you.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
We got McDonald's for you, like we gave the one
college team, come on out.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
If you choose not to no love loss, we appreciate. Well.
Here here's the other thing. And this is what I'm
gonna tell you.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
They probably got a call and all speculation the Eagles, okay,
from from the Commissioner's office or whatever, because you know,
Donald Trump is on a revenge tour and the NFL
is in his sights, right, Like remember they didn't allow
him to buy the Buffalo Bills. He wasn't didn't qualify
the money wise, they want to know part of him.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
And in fact, he's the whole Kaepernick and right and
all that.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Right he always has, you know, uh, vendetta against the NFL.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
You don't forget.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So that's why I'm saying they probably got a call
to be like just do not you know what I mean,
Just not put that out boy, you know what I mean,
because we don't. We don't want to have to go
deal with the other stuff that's gonna come. He's gonna
be saying this and that and then try to go
after the NFL and all that because that's what that's.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
What I think it is. I think because he knows
that like.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
People would rather not come and he doesn't want to
be embarrassed that they basically.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Stick point because it's personal for him, as are many things.
And like we said, the vendetta are whole things revenge
to her. Whereas other people may say, man, that's their right,
it's I.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Don't agree with.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I remember Obama making a big deal in people to
s obs because they want to kneel and they're supposed
to be this and fighting with players like you know,
we lived that in twenty sixteen, seventeen eighteen, from the
Kaepernick situation to calling out Lebron, calling out Steph calling
out the to the point Rob's remember it went from
Jerry Jones, all right, kneeling, No cowboys gonna kneel.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
We ain't having that. I'm the owner. They all kneel down.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Even Jerry Jones kneeling, and technically they did it before
the national anthem, so they didn't deal to the anthem.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
But Jerry Jones even took a knee and then then.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
By the way, the Internet is gona internet, they put
a dashiki on him and it was hilarious.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
But so my point is, who was the other one
who did the same thing with Pelosi? No, no, no,
Ray Lewis remember that way him and Kimmy Shannon got
into it over yep, because he wound up and then
said he wasn't kneeling, he was praying. Yeah, remember that.
I do remember that. I think they had fallen out
after Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah. But the whole point is, you're right.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Roger Goodell's probably like, look, please, please, let's not relive
this again. We've gotten past it. And we know when
you say something Jalen Hurts comes out or the owner
of the uh the Eagles. We know he's been very vocal.
He supports a lot of liberal and progressive ideals. He's
donated money to the Biden administration the Obama administration is
no secret, so we know he's very much uh you know,
(18:27):
a left winged person. So if he comes out and
says something, you know what I mean. This is how
it starts. You haven't heard from him, and you know
how it goes. You start talking, and especially now because
he's you know, he's more in bolden because this is
his last administration allegedly where now what I got to lose.
I don't have to play the game. I never played
the game. I really don't have to play the game.
(18:48):
He being President Trump.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Well, the only thing is the midterms. Yeah, that's the
only thing.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And I said his last allegedly because he's already talking
about trying to change some things.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
You know that. Does he know he's almost eighty doing that?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
What are you gonna say, pork chop away. He's trying
to change things where you can run again. And mind you,
the bill, by the way, the bill is not that
you can get another term. You have to be the
sitting president to get another third term. Meaning everybody went, oh,
so Obama or Biden or somebody else can get another term.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
No, you have to be currently sitting. Is the bill
currently that's up? Dude? How rigg do you have to
be to do this? I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
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Speaker 6 (19:31):
What's more likely Trump gets a third term or Rob
Parker actually retires in fools?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I'm control I'm going.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Trump I Trump, No, No, No, it has to go
through No, what's more likely to happen?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I know but it Loki has to go.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Okay, So I'm asking you what's more likely to happen
Trump's third term or Rob actually retires.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I'm gonna have to go with the Orange Man. Nobody
believes you don't have to go with the Orange Rob, Yeah,
I think yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
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Speaker 1 (20:09):
Brittley Weisman, former NFL scout with the Chargers, joining the
I Couple now as we come to you live from
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Give him a follow there, Brittley, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
What's happening?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Hey, guys, thanks for having me. You know, I was
just hearing you guys to talk about Canada. I went
to Vancouver for the first time two years ago. It
was a lot of fun, good city over there.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I haven't been to Vancouver, which is not too far
from Seattle, good day, but I hear very good things.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
About I gotta find you know what, you want to
find some new and different places, right.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
You can't just Miami, La Vegas. You got to mix
it up.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
No, no doubt, got to mix it up. Got to
mix it.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Up, all right, Bretley, thank you for being here. But
I saw some NFL. I saw some combine. So Rob
and I talked a little bit ago early in the show.
If out had brought this up four months ago, give
or take, just sure should Jorae Sanders was, you know,
top five pick on one of the first two quarterbacks
ago and it was kind of a given.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Did he do something that we missed something? How did
he hurt this?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Where we have now scouts are coming out anonymously saying
he shouldn't even be drafted. We we literally had one
on our show that said I wouldn't draft him at all.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
We had that on our show.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
We had another scout you know you read, saying he's
out of the first round when all he did was
produce forty one hundred yards thirty seven touchdowns. He won
in high school, one of Jackson State, one at Colorado.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
What are we missing?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, look, I think right now in this class, it's
just not a really sexy quarterback class. Not a ton
of type around this year's class. So what we're seeing
is we're trying to We're seeing people you know, in
the media and scouts look for ways to kind of
keep things going. They're trying to find things that are
(21:52):
are really not there with Chador just so they can
talk about it. Under no circumstance that Chador do anything
during the season, you know, throughout this kind of pre
draft process to hurt his stock, right, that all of
that is just people manufacturing narrative to help, you know,
drive whatever they're trying to land. I don't I don't
(22:16):
know where it's coming from Chador. I'm not the biggest
fan of store at Midaly. I think he's you know,
certainly worth a first round pick. I think he has
a lower level starting quarterback talent in the NFL, and
you put some good players around him, he can succeed.
Do I think he's uh, franchise altering level talent. No,
(22:40):
But the disrespect and the slander that Shador has been
catching over the past few weeks is really puzzling. I Mean,
you have folks coming out the woodwork talking about Tyler
Shuck from Louisville now being got to the head of
Sugar Sanders, when in all we saw last year was
(23:01):
Shad door, line up the scoreboard and make all kinds
of ridiculous grows. So I think right now we're just
seeing guys, you know, look to kind of just hurt
sador stalk for whatever reason, but really trying to just
kind of derive whatever narrative they're trying to get across.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Bretley, let me ask you about about the combine.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
The scouts go, they played college football, you have tape,
you've watched them, You've gone to games live to see the.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Guy play and all the other stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
What does the combine do other than for somebody who
maybe wasn't that good in college who you get another
look at. Like for somebody who maybe doesn't rank that high,
maybe that helps them. But if you've played well at
a high level and during your college career, I don't
see how that helps you at all.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah, you know, so the combine really, I mean, there's
two sides of the combine. Right. There's what you see
on TV with all the testing, the forty the kind
of on field drills. Then there's all this stuff that
happens off TV. That's the meetings, that's the medical that's
the kind of one on one interviews with the teams,
and so all of that are really really important no
(24:12):
matter which player you are, you know what I mean,
you have to go meet with the coaches, you have.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
To go meet yeah, and so, but in terms of
you know, on the field and kind of where a
player might be able.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
To help or hurt themselves, I think we're up to
your point. You know, there is a certain level of
athlete and prospects to where the combine might do only
harm to them, right Like, for example, Optial Carter, I
think I just saw today he's opting out of the combine.
And same with Ashton Jens and both of those prospects,
(24:45):
in my eyes, they shouldn't do with a bang thing
in Indianapolis. You know, their tape really speaks for itself.
We know they're blee chip prospects. We know they're easily
you know, to the top five players in this class.
The four player like and this is a good examp
Will Johnson in the corner out of Michigan. His tape
to me speaks well, he's a high end NFL corner
(25:07):
all day long. However, what also came up on tape
is you see receivers pulling awatsman down the field. So
you question his deep speed to fast these Well, if
he comes out and runs a strong forty. You know
this Sunday in the combine, we're talking about a player
who's being predicted somewhere between that pick fifteen to pick twenty,
(25:30):
here are the four to fourth rob he's going top five,
he's going top seven, and so I do think, you know,
this is obviously a case by case basis, but you know,
there is a lot of opportunity for players really help
themselves depending on how they test.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Britley Weisman former NFL Scott with the Chargers our guests
on the ocoup of Robin kelvin Magic City Monday. Let
me ask you this, just stay of the combine. Somebody
who's going to be a dB in the combine? Travis Hunter? Uh,
is that where you have wanted them to see? If
you're a scoular, are you saying man would love to
see him play receiver?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Like?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
How are people handling this guy so dynamic on both
sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yeah, this is one of the more fascinating scouting kind
of just questions and really overall kind of just storylines
that I've seen over the past few years. Because Travis
Hunter truly is Italy at both positions, And it's just
really a matter of kind of how you value receiver
versus how you value corner. I'll say for me, I
(26:29):
would actually have him play receiver and receiver only. I
know that's definitely not the popular answer.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Now, now let me.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Ask you why is that From the standpoint, we just
saw sho Hail Tarani who for years they never let
anybody pitch, and you know, and be a hitter as well,
and that is, guys, the biggest thing going, you know
in baseball. Why not give him a chance, right like,
to just see if he could pull it off.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
It could be a marvel in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Now, if OI he decides he doesn't want to do it,
or he struggles on one half of you decide no,
it didn't work, why can't he at least try, That's
what I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
He can try theoretically. I just feel like it is
such it is going to be such a challenge. I mean,
this is a seventeen game NFL even you know, playing
both ways is just he Look he did it in
college and he won the hEDS when it should be.
It was truly remarkable to see. But with that said,
I mean he's in his sophomore season. He dealt with
(27:29):
injuries at Colorado. He's just not He's up the biggest,
most durable player. I hate so jeopardizing put him at
risk because he has such a unique talent. But yeah,
I mean, I don't know if there's necessarily harm and
experimenting and then trying to see if they can do
both sides, but there is some risk to that with
(27:51):
potential injury and you know, conditioning and things of that nature.
But for me, you know, I just look at his game.
You have Washington Callerrado. He is so dynamic with the
football in his hands, so explosive, and I think, you know,
he's only going to get better at receiver because I mean,
at the end of the day, he really won with
(28:13):
just his straight up speed and quickness and ability to
play the ball in the air. He's not that a
good route runner really right now. He is not a
receiver who is very nuanced and can set up defenders.
Those are all things I think he can get coached
up on if he dedicates most of his time to
playing receiver and really kind of build up that skill
(28:35):
set because to me, I mean, he has top five
receiver upside in the NFL. And you know, as we've
seen in this league, gets the pack in the league,
and good offense beats good defense one hundred percent of
the time. And so I'd rather just take a Pro
Bowl receiver rather than trying to figure out, you know, hey,
(28:55):
is he a corner and give him the snatch. But
I just think he can be more actual as a receiver.
And that's around with Flames.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
He is Brinley, Weisemian. Thank you, br Yes, thank you guys.
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