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Sometimes you gotta get it out, hold it all week.
Whatever that sports take is maybe something from us, No
doubt I'd have to get at us too. Hey, Rob
G can you join us always? Robin's what I'm here for,
all right. Nobody reads more news than the Steve de Seger.
That's right, So read the news, Hey, Steve.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Thanks Steve.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Sam Donald. The Vikings had something to say about Sam Donald,
didn't they.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Well, they had something to say about what they did.
They missed the deadline, that's right there. The deadline came
and went to franchise tag Sam Donald. Now, according to
ESPN's Adam schefferd that doesn't mean necessarily that he won't
be back in Minnesota. But if you read the tea leaves,
it's highly unlikely they didn't be back in Minnesota. Sam
Donald now a free agent, and depending who you talk to,
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you could be the prize quarterback on the market this offseason.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I am not surprised.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
This is one that I first guessed, would you agree
with that after those two games, the bad game against
the Lions where he couldn't get the ball in the
end zone despite moving the ball up and down the field,
and then the bad playoff game. And I'm like, dude,
fifteen good games and two horrible though sixteen good games
right because the one was a playoff game, and then
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the horrible playoff loss the last game of the season.
I think or whatever, it was two really bad games
at the end. And I'm not surprised because Sam Donald
turned into a pumpkin. He made you afraid that what
we saw was not Sam Donald, even though it was
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really good. They won fourteen games, and I think that
the Vikings made the right decision not to cash him out.
It speaks volumes. And if I'm another franchise looking to
get some Sam Donald, I got a question why he's
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not getting a deal. Why they're not saying trade JJ McCarthy.
We got our quarterback. Sam Donald's not thirty five years old. Yeah,
he's gonna be twenty eight. Next think about that.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He's young.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Kevin does not now if he was thirty five and
he had this fluke season.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I get that thirty two.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
He's twenty seven, going to be twenty eight next year.
So the idea that they feel like they want them,
but at a big discount, and they're not willing to
pay him. Even Baker Mayfield, who got jettison out of
Cleveland when he played well for Tampa Bay, what they do.
They rewarded him with a contract, didn't they. It's funny
(04:21):
you mentioned that. Yeah, that's because they did. Yeah, but
in this case here, I'm sorry. If you're the Vikings
and you're trying to win, not just I'm talking about
win big and not just win games, he scares me.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Okay, so.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I don't think he's Joe Montana. But here's my thing.
I also don't think JJ McCarthy. And you know I'm
from ann Arburn, Michigan. Watch every last one of his throws,
but you haven't seen him playing. And that's a fair point.
Happens all the time. We see guys who are amazing
college exactly, You're like, where'd that come from?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
In college? From Michigan and we saw he's cool. You know,
he wouldn't. He wasn't bad.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
He was good, but he wasn't. You didn't think Tom
Rady was gonna be that. No, So I no, But
what I mean is it is interesting. I'm like, man,
like a lot of people from there, even some you know,
former pro players I know who watch Michigan are like
I was a kind of a reach, Like he wasn't
really a thrower of the football like that. But I
think the winning in Jim Harbaugh singing his praises, it's like,
all right, cool back to Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
The thing about it for me is you just mentioned it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
He's twenty seven years old, finally got in a stable organization,
finally got a good opportunity with a quarterback coach, a
coach who's quarterback friendly, i should say, and Kevin O'Connell,
and they got some things going. Why I don't get
why I want to give up on that. That is
that's the weird part for me, And especially when I
have JJ McCarthy, who they clearly believe and they went
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up to get him at ten. But also, mind you,
rob Sam Donald stole that job for him pre injury.
They declared him the star before the injury.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
He's a rookie coming in.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Well, what I'm just saying, so it wasn't like you're
like you were saying we're okay with JJ sitting and
waiting a year or two, whatever it is, while we
roll out the Sam Darnold project.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, the project worked looked really good.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Thirty five touchdown, forty three hundred yards, fourteen and three,
sloppy at the end, bad at the end, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
We all saw that.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But to me, I'm looking at that as Wow, this
was year one with this organization, with his coach. Let's
see if we can build on this now. Am I
about to break the bank in a crazy way?
Speaker 6 (06:31):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
But am I gonna give him a Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Like deal a couple of years, seventy five eighty five million,
you know, and make it you know, I don't know,
seventy get guaranteed or something like that.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Sure, But to me, J. J.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
McCarthy was a rookie, didn't get to play a big
time injury so much so they had to go back
and give him a second surgery.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
He might not be ready.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And you want to compete, Why waste a good defense,
a good team, good you know, running situation, like you
got a squad?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Why start with JJ.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Maybe he's rookie and he's wrestling, you gotta start over
and give him two years.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
We just saw uh then we just see C. J.
Daniels and James. I don't think I personally do not
believe j Maybe they do, and maybe they.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Do, but they believe that they have a quarterback, the
coach who works with quarterbacks, and that if he can
term Sam Donald whose career was dead.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So why not? Right? Because why not of sixty mil?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
No? Because I think they got scared off and the
two biggest games he turned to goole. When you turn
the goo in those moments, you wonder if this guy's
like like regardless, a lot of guys can win a
lot of games regular season. And the meltdown in that
Remember the Lions game, they moved down, they weren't.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
He missed some good wide open made missed those doubt
And that's what I'm saying. It's not like he would Steiny.
They never could move the ball and they kept breaking.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
No, they moved the ball all the way down feel
and they have four chances in the red zone the
first half and got nothing.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I mean, like I just know and game for me,
I'm saying, Okay, he melted down. We can figure out
what it is. What did you see what? Didn't you see?
What was that? And again I'm not saying he's about
to be the best quarterback and I'm not paying him
like he is. But to me, if I got a guy,
I'm gonna give a two year deal with two year
deal some good you know, solid fair money for him,
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fair for us. And I got JJ right here who
I can let get back and continue to recover from
these two surgeries and let him get back and feeling
good and learn the system some more.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Why not? To me?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Now I have a older veteran quarterback who had an
understanding system to the twoe of fourteen and three thirty
five touchdowns with the young guy who's ready, I just
feel like, what is wrong with that?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Easy?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
They don't want to pay him. His people are expecting
him to cash out, see now, but they also are
being real. We're going to go in there with the
numbers you just showed. You just go and go slough
him and say he should get forty five million or
fifty million.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
He should be in.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
But that give him two year eighty with the numbers,
because that puts him right about where he should be
with everybody might.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Take he wants he wants more than a two year deal.
He just said, I just put up how many touchdown here?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Forty three thirty five? I mean thirty five and forty
three hundred yards? Yeah, no, but you gotta relax. I
like you. I like him, but I don't love it.
I don't love him. Shut up out, that's what's shut up.
We went a week without that. We knew it, we
knew it was coming.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
So yeah, but again, I just I don't mind having
that guy who's got the system runs it. Okay, we're
gonna improve, We're gonna find areas where you know we
can make you not have some issues. Cool check jaj McCarthy.
You're watching, you're learning, you getting better, all right?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Cool? See what's doing this for a year or two?
I'm not That's why I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
This isn't my long term, five year, one hundred and
fifty million dollars guy, I'm not doing that. But I
think I'm locking in a guy who's got the system
proven while JJ recovers from injury.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
This is a serre was a series injury too. He
had to get two surgeries over it.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But but this is not a to me because I
called this when he had those two bad games.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
He did, I mean, he if. I don't know if
I've ever seen two games matter to someone this much mine.
I'm trying to really think, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I know you probably didn't say that's not fair, like
because he had played all year.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I mean, he looked bad. He didn't just lose. I agree,
he looked bad. It was like ooh, like like, oh,
this is the guy who's bounced around to four teams
and flamed out with the Jets.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That's what he looked like.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
But he did a lot. I mean, he was an
MVP candidate most of the season. Again, they beat the
lines in there go fifth was it fifteen and two?
They would have been able to have been the first time.
I think it was like two teams fifteen and two,
whatever that was would have been crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I just think I just if Kevin O'Connor was like, man,
we were really productive now almost kind of like a
not quite Luca. But just if there's something they feel
like he doesn't have the mental capacity, like there's something
off and he you know, we don't think he'll ever
shake the the yips and big moments, then okay, maybe
I'm not in those locker rooms.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'm not in those There's gotta be something there because
if you really believe, like again, look at his age,
he's Rogers. Man.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I thought if I just asked one hundred people, mostly
the youngest would be what twenty nine to THIRTI is
you think, not that you thought he was old, but
you thought he was twenty nine thirty three. He's only
twenty seven. You're like, man, but you forget he didn't
play all four at at Sea now and he started
at us.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
He really really young too. Yeah, he's one of those
rare ones that kind of wild.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Okay, so looking at the quarterback market, is he the
is he the guy? Is he the prize?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Well, since Stafford stayed in LA then the answers, yes,
it was Stafford, Okay, now it's now it's Sam Dark.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I would love to hear Rob say Aaron Rodgers and
Aaron Rodgers still, no, it's not Aaron Rodgers at forty
years old, forty one years old?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But who is it?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
But I'm just not that big on Darnold. I'm really not.
I'm out on him. I would have to see.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
What her cousin's coming off to.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Kill and.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Cousins when he went to Atlanta. I thought that was
a ridiculous contract to heal. History says, and that was
a bad deal there.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
History says, one of these guys is going to be
at least decent. You got Geno Smith, Baker Mayfield, Joe
Flapper was good for a minute. Sam Donald last year.
One of these guys, it's going to very quietly get
you to like eight nine, ten wins.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
They'll take Sam Donald, but just not at the money
he thinks he's going.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
But dude, so you you wouldn't give him forty which
is actually if I could get him at two years
for thirty eight a year, I take him.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Did you just thirty eight?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
When I said forty, Yes, I'm trying to work a deal,
that was the most rob Parker.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I'm thinking ROGI. He was like, no, I thought he's
or something.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yes, if I can, you know, if I can get
him at thirty eight, and maybe we'll give.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Him a wash on going there to get a die
coke paying one twenty.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
One extra one O nine, I'll pay, not one twenty.
That's what you.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I'm not sitting there arguing with you about Sam Donald
of four million dollars over two years.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
All right, so guys making under forty quickly Aaron Rodgers
who was not to Theking cut but that was Yeah,
that was Derek Carr, Baker Mayfield, Gino Smith.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
There you go, that's where he belongs. He fits in
that class.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
But I'm now looking at it and forty that's like
even with Gino. Go back to Gino has it's the best,
uh completion? What do you have a percentage of right
for the for the couple of years ago?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah? Right, but I mean you had that that resurgence.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Okay, and look at the deal that he got from Seattle.
It wasn't a magnificent big deal.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
The only difference.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
The difference, I would say to you, Rob, like everything
in life and we are all about to see in life,
is inflation, meaning this is pretty much the same deal,
just the twenty twenty five version versus the twenty twenty
two version, meaning everything goes up.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Just a little bit. But I'm saying he didn't see
the price of age. He didn't get it.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah, Hey, you know, to know what who's singling here?
I need Lucy's anybody bo?
Speaker 6 (13:56):
You?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
No? Anybody, Alex Alex. I don't know what my single.
Huh what do you mean by single?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Are you not married? No? I'm not married.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Okay, well just a wife. Yeah, we're rolling with that. Well,
you know, because you're all in with her too. If
you're listening, get so you are sick?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I forgot? What do you mean you forgot? I'm single? Yeah,
you are super single. I got a lot of singles.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
And this works out perfect, Rob G and Alex. He's
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This works perfect?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Blind? Is that way? I kid? Well, he might literally
be blind. You went there with talk to your blasket,
I said, next questions are you under twenty five? Look? Yes,
big big me? All right, stick around everybody else get out.
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She's a mayo.
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That's the new I got money. That's the new flex.
If you buying twenty four packs of eggs. You got
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I'm buying. No, you want to see she's walking down
the eye three eggs? Can I buy it? She's walking
and she's watching like, oh and you look, you say,
how you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
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Speaker 3 (15:04):
You know?
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Come on, gig up.
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one of the ones. I just choked on some I'm
sorry what let me guess. Drummis bakes great job. By
the way, is it baked chicken like it's a I
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can't think of the equivalent of anyone who else who
eats something like that. Much of something like chicken is good? No, no,
no, no no. Nobody said it wasn't good. However, five of
seven days, My gosh, I.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Wonder there's the next shortage. Well, I'll tell you this, man,
mix it up. Monday is weight day, Monday is one month. Nice.
We need to get way. Look at that. Kate looks
bigger than when I left. Yeah, I am. I am
from let girl. Rough. No, this rough week, this past
week terrible, Well not a full week. That's a lie.
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See where are you were you on schedule today? I'm
down six and a half. I don't buy it, Okay,
I don't buy it. I think that was with the
vacation sprinkled in there. They might ask you for all that.
I think. I think I'm down ten. I haven't been
on the scale, say twelve for you think so, I
think six?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
No no, no, no, no, not up six no. We need
you to get on the scale so that we could
see where.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
We about me. We all get on the snail. I'm
looking on the scale five days ago. Crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Y'all have to see me here with the trash bags on,
wearing sweating on Monday. We'll come in with wait all right,
so you know it wasn't here right, It was nothing
but celery, apple, juice, vinegar, whatever, whatever one of those.
It's about to go down because y'all just called me on.
I like it, Alex Okay, I like a good challenge.
I came back, Yeah, I like it.
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It's simple. You gotta be real careful and we talked
about it when you go on these interviews. If you
can't be, take me as I am, take me or
take it or leave it or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
That's just otherwise, why are.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You even going to an interview? Seriously, if that's the
persona you have when you go to an interview, basically
you supposed to sell yourself and make people say, oh,
we gotta get this guy.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Am I right or wrong on that?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
When you go to an interview, I'm eighty five ninety
percent with you, Okay, just a small coveyat okay with you.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But that's the purpose of doing it, and be better
off not going at all. If you're just gonna go, well,
watch my film and decide whether or not you want me,
And I don't think that that would work, right.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
They'd still want to talk to you.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
They still want to talk to your personality element, to
a leadership element.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yes there is, I'm sorry, very seldom. And what happens
is when you ball out and you're different, people can
accept it because, Okay, this guy's successful, he's won, this
is how he is.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
We can deal with it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Bill Belichick in New England treating the media that way
didn't work in Cleveland. He wasn't when he wasn't whinning.
That's my point is that you got to understand that.
And while you might have had success in college, you
haven't had any in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I hate to.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Break it to you, but most of the quarterbacks who
come in flop most it's not the other way around.
Most flop or don't live up to their expectations. So
that's all I'm saying. You want to be yourself, you
don't want to be phony, but there is a give
and take. People are trying to see who you are,
(20:59):
and I just think you can't go in there with that.
This is who I am, and if you don't like it,
draft somebody else. I don't think that works.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I think Shadure, I think we're gonna have an extended
conversation with Joseena here in just a bit. But I
think it's a difficult one with him because he's been
this guy all his life, very brash, confident. But then
on the flip side, everybody you talk to, ex teammates,
ex coaches, everybody loves them. Everybody You've not heard a
(21:28):
single bad thing about him. So it's one of those
If you yourself aren't comfortable with people who are a
little you know, very assured and self confident, it may
threw up you the wrong way and throw you.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Off a little bit.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
But on the flip side, all he's been about is
great work, work ethic, and again being a good kid.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
So it's one of those tough ones.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
If I'm a GM, I'm gonna say, all right, do
I like a guy who's gonna come in here with
a little extra sauce, you know, a little little extra
flavor and confidence and plays well and works his butt off.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
And I think I would be able to be contextualized
enough that I can be okay with that, especially if
I know, or at least by my research has shown
he's a good person.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I just I hear what you're saying that.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I don't think that's the purpose of having an interview,
That's what I'm saying. Like, you go into an interview
and you're just like, take me as I am, and
that's it. That's not how you sell yourself. Otherwise, what
is the purpose of it. I don't need to bring
you in then if it's just about that you work
hard and you've had success on the field, is what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I want to get to know you a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I want to hear how you tick, how you you
know what's important to you and all that other stuff.
And that's the part about selling that that is I
think because somebody else might be just as talented as you.
And then I hear this kid and this is what
he does, and then I have to, you know, like
like wow, this this kids eat. It's really about football.
(22:55):
This guy is about the lifestyle of being a football player.
This guy's about football. There's two different And I get
what you're saying. I think some of this has been
overblown with him. Again, We're gonna carry this conversation. Been
talking about what said about him. I'm just saying in
an interview process, and I just I brought up the
other one and I asked Rob Gidis, when we're talking
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about someone coming into an interview and he's a talented
writer and all this, and he says, if you don't
hire me, it's gonna be a worst decision of your
career like that, like he could be that good, but.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
That I don't want to hire you just because now
I don't want to want to work with you.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Do you understand what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying. And he could be a talented writer,
he could be, but that's not the way you go
in and sell yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
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Speaker 3 (24:08):
Hey, how are you?
Speaker 7 (24:09):
What's going on?
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Guys?
Speaker 7 (24:10):
What's y'all talking about?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
We're doing really good. Well, we were talking about multiple things.
We're talking about the fact that he beats me over
the head with chicken. All he eats five to seven
out of the seven days, trying to shae chick and chicken.
My guys baked chicken from Rafts. They got a deal.
They got a whole chicken for three ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I got it. I'm all into it. It's all good,
all right, anyway, my.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Goodness, y'all checking the job already.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I guess a hold on them since this started about
an hour and thirty five minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
All right, we got you here just jump into this.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
You you put out, Uh, you caused some controversy, you
drop a tweet on them, and I was all in, like,
oh it was people had some things to say, You're
talking about schdor centers. As we were just having a
conversation moments ago, how he may be rubbing some people
the wrong way because of his confidence, because of his persona,
because of you know, little brackadocia, if you will. Some
(25:01):
cases people I use this term. A week or so
ago we were talking about this. I said, Rob, it's
starting to feel like people want to humble him, Like
I don't like that. He's you know, comes from his
dad's famous, he's always got nil money, and they want
to humble him a little bit. Uh, tell us more
about just your thoughts and what your interactions from us
some insiders have said about this process so far.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
For Shador, Well, my report was just limited to the
comments of you know, one quarterbacks coach that I've mentioned
in the report pertain to one of the teams drafting
you know, in the top seven for the upcoming twenty
twenty five drafts in April. So my you know, report
was just limited to that. You know, I am aware
(25:42):
that you know, some people express their feelings over his
election to uh not work out at the at the Combine,
but you know, Shador Sanders was not alone in not
working out. Many of the top prospects didn't do that.
For Mason Graham to ask some gent to you name it,
it seems like that's actually becoming more popular, which is
(26:04):
a different topic in and of itself in terms of
the future of the combine with people trying to you know,
debate over its relevancy. So the you know, part of
the reason why I put up that post is because
I didn't put every detail as to what I heard
was actually said about him relative to you know, this
particular coach and the team. But I felt like the
(26:26):
energy was negative enough and potentially you know, rooted and
biases that are you know, arguably not you know, supposed
to kind of be making it into the conversation outside
of you know, a football assessment where I thought, you know,
it was a little bit too much ink cast in
(26:47):
the water, so to speak. And and you know, quite frankly,
as covering the NFL for as long as I have
for over twenty years and going through this process every
year with the with the draft and seeming having stuff
like this come out on a particular high prospect A
lot of times it being players of you know, you know,
African American descent or what have you. I just found
(27:10):
it problematic and it did not feel the need to,
you know, name the person and name the team, because
I feel like, you know, that person who's going to
see it is going to be known. And I think
and I think the idea is just to cause some
awareness of how your comments out loud can make it
to the desk of a media person and potentially have
(27:31):
an effect, not that you're not supposed to have your opinion,
but you know, just really having that conversation about you know,
what is stereotyping, what is trope, what are tropes? What
are things that are kind of crossing the line in
terms of being a fair assessment that you truly could
gather from a fifteen minute, fifteen to twenty minute interview.
(27:52):
That's kind of like speed dating at the combine.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah, it was gonna let for you go, Rob, but
so yeah, a little bit there. But it's one of
those things you brought up where you are end the piece.
You use the word cultural too, kind of cultural almost
as you said tropes, there's things where I don't understand
or I don't get in, you know, maybe certain ways
(28:16):
about people that then it becomes a bias and why
they don't like him when it really doesn't necessarily root
it in anything. To me, I've only heard that he
works incredibly hard, that he's incredibly you know, all about football,
all about business. Does he enjoy a nice chain? He's
even mentioned that, yes, well I like a nice car.
But you know, but I'm locked in, and that's all
we've ever seen. So I'm kind of confused on why
(28:37):
it seems like lately, just your opinion, why it seems
to be kind of now going down. If you would
have win it two months ago, it's kind of a
top five pick, almost assured. Now I'm hearing, you know,
sliding down a little bit.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Okay, So a couple of things. I'm not sure that
there's any you know, reporting that I can say that
he's going down. I still think that there is a potential, potential,
you know, a chance, good chance for him to go
to the New York Giants. You still have to see
what the what Andrew Berry, the general manager that Cleveland
(29:09):
Brown is going to do at two. I think that's
a crucial thing, you know what Andrew Berry is going
to end up doing, particularly when you have such a
leverage piece in Miles Garrett, who was basically asking to
be traded. You're saying you're not going to trade him,
And obviously it's the it's the job of a general
manager to keep you know, good players. But you know,
(29:30):
the what the what the Browns are looking to potentially
do with Miles Garrett by not letting him go. And
I wrote this in an articles actually in complete contrast
to what they did with Baker Mayfield when he was
expressing this comfort at obviously with Deshaun Watson coming in
and they shipped him to the Carolina Panthers before the
season even started and alleviated that discomfort in that situation.
(29:53):
That's a whole other conversation. So the point is, at
least for my you know knowledge, I don't have any
thing to say that he sure as flighting. I think
there's a good chance that he potentially goes to the Giants.
We've seen the video that came out where he was
talking to Brian day Ball and Giants Brash and some
lobby in a hotel. It was either the shrine or
one of those things that they do before the combine.
(30:14):
I don't go to none of them. I always just
go to the combine. But one of those things that
you know, he was talking to them, and we've heard
the reporting us too as it relates to their you know,
potential interests, So that's not necessarily you know what I'm seeing.
And the other thing I wanted to highlight is that,
you know, when I'm talking about, you know, cultural issues,
cultural issue doesn't necessarily pertain to racial. You know, cultural
(30:34):
can mean generational, Cultural can mean, you know, just in
terms of how a particular group of people are going
about their business in this day and age because the
finances have changed in the sawn of the nil era
and all that other stuff. So there's a ton of
things that you know that you know can pertain to
(30:54):
I specifically was brought about that because the more specific
that I was getting right, the more specific it was
going to become. And I have to balance between reporting
some things and also protecting sources. And listen, I've broken
enough stories where it's never my uh, it's never my
goal to put out something and just have this purely
(31:15):
sensational effect. I don't need to do that. There's no
story that's making me here to marve already broken a
billion stories. What I am trying to do is put
out a story that that is accurate, that reflects, you know,
what I'm reporting. People get enough of it to understand
what's you know, going on. And then if there are
other mitigating factors, which you know, the public is, you
know who is consuming you know, the new the news
(31:37):
are not necessarily aware of that, I have to take
into consideration as well. This may, you know, affect the
threshold to which I am or the extent to which
I'm saying something.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Well, you know what, if you didn't get a chance
to go check it out, go again check out Josina
Anderson on X there.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Thank you so much as always, good to talk to you.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
Of course, y'all have a good show. I appreciate y'all too.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
All right, Justina Anderson, go check her out, go follow
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let's get it kicked off. Let's start with Rocket in Florida.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Somebody need
a new home?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Who your trash ship? Rocket? We're talking about homes? Hey,
can y'all hear me?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Yeah, our first time listener, first time caller.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
I ain't never listening to you guys before and probably
never with again. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
I call him trashing Mickael Jordan. He's the most overrated
basketball player I ever ever seen.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
Overrated over them freaking raided and the most eating distant.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
Combing I've ever seen.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
Marvin Dackley, Marlin dacklans a fud is a player that
you should be recognizing.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
All right, thanks, rocket By who's around here?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Let me say see Steve, I can see Alex, I
see rob g That was Jason?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Was that Jason? Is that Jason? That had to been?
Speaker 9 (33:45):
All right?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
How about Chili Tim in Atlanta? You're on the Fox
Sports radio who you're trashing?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Chill him? I called him chilling?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
What up?
Speaker 8 (33:54):
I'm trashing? Uh? He drove bo umpires in Major League Baseball?
You know, Robs is right, one of my favorite times
a year, yes, spring training. So I'm starting with the
big When we got in the argument about the robots,
and it's like, why why do we need robots?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Right?
Speaker 8 (34:09):
I mean, what's gonna happen next? Could you imagine Earl
Weather or Tomy Minnisoda or Billy Martin like kicking dirt
on a robots. It doesn't work, It doesn't work. I
mean this stigrede is. I mean, what we're gonna have
now first and third base coaches? Robot coaches? I mean,
come on, man, let's kind of leave something like it
(34:29):
is the game. We already have instant replay. That's what
we have it for if there's a call.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
So you know, it's like what you call scouting.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
You know you got an umpire that they may have
a high strate zone. That's what you do. You go
out and scout.
Speaker 9 (34:41):
You know who you're.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Working with, and you play according to that. Let's lead
the robots out and key baseball like it is there.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
You got good stuff, Andrew in Bakersfield, California. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio who are trashing Andrew.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
It's the second part for Adam Silver. Jordan won his championships,
there were five games in the first round of the playoffs.
When Kobe won his. There were seven games in the
first round of the playoffs. And I think that's why
Kobe got hurt. Hey, Adam, your injury list is off
the hook. Have you checked it. You gotta change it up, man.
(35:20):
Instead of taking games out, you added meaningless games in
the in season tournament. And that is like the All
Star Game. Check the facts. When you added the in
season tournament, the All Star Game was sucky and this
year it sucked. Take it out man, all right.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
There it is, thanks Andrew.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
All right, what about Ken in Stockton, California?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Who are you trash? And Ken?
Speaker 9 (35:48):
Rob Barker buddy, any Celtic house? Oh, Rob Don's talking
to Lakers making it outaware and Lebron even being considered
a top five Envy player this year living in the
no and yes he hears the tough MVP player this year.
And you don't even depend the Lakers. You defended the
Celtics and any house saying that the court shortened, the
(36:11):
measurements are the same. The Lakers don't play no deed.
And you're always saying nobody's gonna repeat the team the Dodgers,
but you didn't say nothing about the Celtics, no repeat,
and you got on Robert L. Rry. I'm out.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Wow, Yeah, thanks Ken, you would like to reply them shots?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
We we got time now.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
No, I'm not replying. I mean this is his thing.
He says, whatever you want, you could trash somebody. Rob
g you got somebody you want to trash.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I already trashed you about this chicken. I'm tired of it.
And I just trashed Alex too. Ain't seen the man
in the week coming in taking shots. We called you,
somebody called me, called me fat. It's getting ridiculous, Alex.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
You just want to Rob old called dub fat? Yeah?
Sort did you say I was old? I'm taking shots
at wow? This guy is wow. I'm hurt. Man, look
me in my white hair. I mean, honestly, it is
kind of shocking, Robin.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
It was a big switch. And I came back when
you when he left, your hair was black and gray,
and then.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You came back and it was great. What do you
mean when he left for the weekend? What are you saying?
And do you think my hair is gray?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Or now?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Since you left? You did say yesterday, so we noticed
or something you did. I was worried. You did tell
your barber you said you cut on the black. Yeah,
I really I did say that. Yeah, but I didn't
know it was I thought I was cracking a joke.
My hair that white.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
I can tell you what it is. It's just that
you went lower. Did you go low?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So it's just but you look fine. You look fine.
This man has a camera. Guys, now you're looking You
look fine. Rob, Your hair looks white? What has happened
to me?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I can hit you up with christ. I mean you
made it to a big age like that's inevitable. I
don't want white hair. It's a little late. I don't
want white hair. I got a guy,