March 6, 2025 • 32 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why it’s unreasonable to suggest that LeBron James should be viewed as the NBA MVP at this point in the season and debate whether or not the Cincinnati Bengals are running the risk of alienating Joe Burrow by allowing so many talented players to leave. Plus, the guys go head-to-head in a very special Cincinnati Bengals-themed edition of Teichert’s Tower of Trivia.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
You're hot and bothered by the Cincinnati Bengal Well, I.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Mean it's one of those you know, Rob Wins.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
People have something to say about you and you maybe
feel a different way, like no, no, no, that's not
necessarily me. That's not a full representation of who I am,
what I'm about, blah blah blah. That'd be the Bengals,
right because people, they often would say, everybody, hey, the
Bengals are a cheap organization. They're not necessarily the best
or most well run organization.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Hey hey, hey, hey, that's not us. That's not true.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Even though we had our players, million dollar players playing
outside in the snow, freezing no practice facility for eons.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Now finally got that over the last couple of years.
But one of the.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Things that has been clear is their franchise quarterback one
of the best in the league who had an incredible
year this year. Joe Burrow, he has been very, very
forthright about the fact that, hey man, I want us
to get things right with this team. I want us
to find ways to actually start succeeding and winning and
getting back to a chance to beat a Super Bowl
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like they did when he first came into the league.
And them franchising t Higgins again, I think is just
another slap to the face of hey, we're not fully
committed to winning. You know, you look at the look
at Trey Henderson, right they don't. They let him go,
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and you're starting to see where you can see it.
Joe Burrow say, hey man, all I want to do
is compete for championships. And Joe Burrow mentioned this, He
said it earlier, you know, month, month, two months ago,
talking about he was willing to restructure his deal. H
He wants to find a way to keep t Higgins.
He wants to keep him, find a way to keep hendrickson.
He wants to find a way to keep Jamar happy.
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He wants to do what we have just seen now
the Ranning Super Bowl champions do the Philadelphia Eagles. They
found a way take care of other star players. Pay
him early, maybe even overpaid for like a guy like
AJ Brown.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
But the fact is we have all the talent. We
have it all kept in house. And look at us.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
We've gone a couple of Super Bowls over the last
few years, winning one this year, and the Bengals aren't
doing that. You know, you got Tea Higgins Jesse. He
gets twenty six million because he's franchised. What's the second
year in a row. You have to know he doesn't
like that. He has to feel a certain way about
why won't you commit to me long term? Your best
defensive player on a horrific defensive team, Trey Hendrickson is
now gone. Who is one of the better that came
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up second for Defensive Player of the Year Outstanding Player.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
He's gone on a defense that was already horrible.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
So you have to be wondering if Joe Burrow is
sitting here like, hey man, are we a little play
around organization or big boy organization. I'm trying to compete
and win and get up there with Patrick Mahomes and
eventually try to win one, and you know, make sure
I'm in the AFC Championship at the least like Josh Allen,
like Lamar Jackson. So to me, this is one of
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those opportunities the last forty eight hours or so for
the Bengals to maybe say, no, man, we're serious.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
We're not what the rumors say, We're not what our
past is.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
And they dropped the ball in my opinion, because now
you have to have t Higgins wondering, man, am I
worth it?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And you know, do they take care of me?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Have given them a all for five six five years,
six years, whatever it's been.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
They won't commit to me. And Chay Henderson is gone
on a bad defense.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
That Joe Burrow was mad because they kept losing games
because of the defense.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Rob, Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with you. From this standpoint,
the Bengals are. They are a.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Mom in pop store. All teams are not created equal.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Even with the same salary cap, they don't have the money.
They were never going to be able to keep those players.
That's why a couple of years ago when they went
to the Super Bowl, that would have been their dream
is to actually win the Super Bowl and then you
don't have to pay everybody you paid the quarterback. We
even see it in Kansas City where they just said
their offensive line was terrible. They just let go on
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all pro offensive linemen right because they don't want to pay.
Right Tyreek killed they didn't want to pay. This is
the NFL now, I would agree with you. If you're
the Dallas Cowboys and you have all this money and
Jerry's not spending money the last two years and saying, well,
if we taking of Zach dak Prescott, we worked his contract.
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I don't know if that money's going to be spent
in free agency. There's the pushback on the Dallas Cowboys,
not the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You just said it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They didn't have a practice facility indoors until a couple
of years ago. They've been around forever. How in the
world where a couple of years ago they were still
practicing outside. I mean, come on, it tells you it's
a mom and pop operation in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I'm I really I think.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
People are misguided when they think that these teams and
these owners are all rolling in doe. If football is
your main business, you're not rolling in dough. Even the
Fords four to five or ten and four or five
six years ago they lost money owning an NFL team.
How do you lose money? Look it up anybody who
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doubts it. There were three teams in the NFL that
lost money. So you hear the numbers, the TV ratings,
all the money, but the expenses and all the other
stuff that it takes to run a team unless you're
really wealthy. And Jerry has done it the last couple
of years, and maybe he's tightening up his belt because
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it costs more to run a team, and he's starting
to say, well, I'm not taking money from my other
stuff to pay for the football and people will be happy.
And we still sell tickets Cincinnati if they don't have
empty State and empty seats there. So people want to
go to football. But this but Mike Brown is a
is a small mom and pop operation. The large borough
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knows that he's from Ohio.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
The larger part for me, though, Rob, I totally hear
what you're saying, because everybody isn't Steve Bomer right. Steve
Bomber has and I know exactly mom using him as
an example, it's not NFL's NBA because he has he
has worked what one hundred and some billion.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
He's on a different level.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
So this is just his passion project that if you
will The only thing I'm the main point I'm focusing
on is that's fine, but this is how you can
lose a guy like a Joe Burrow because he's not
one of those guys that's just like, Oh, I'm just
happy to be in the league. While I never saw
this coming, Joe Burrow wants to compete with the likes
of a Patrick Josh Lamar. He wants to win championships,
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and I totally get the way. Okay, if you're gonna
run a business operation like that, that's fine, But then
that's how.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
You lose a Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
How you lose out on chances to compete and win
for titles because of this, and that's and if that's
how you're running it, then that's fine. And Bengos fans
have to know that Joe Burrow is gonna have to
be okay with that, which I don't believe he is.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I believe he wants to win.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
I don't think his competitiveness coming from college winning. I
don't think he sits back and like, oh man, we
just go out there and I perform well, and so
to me, if they're gonna operate.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Like, but I hear you in the perfect world.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Look at what they're doing in Seattle getting rid of
their receivers.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Look at what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
All over We got a whole reason. Yeah, we got
a whole conversation like.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
This is not this is not anything new.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And if you're Joe Burrow, really they're gonna keep all those.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Players in Cincinnati. I never believed it.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's lucky he took a less of a deal because
it's Cincinnati, not exactly what I don't think he had said.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
He was willing to restructure the deal to try to
keep these guys too.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But there's not enough money for them to pay all
those guys, and that's why they do it. We'll talk
about an hour number two. It's the system that's bad,
and so the players have to live with that bad
system that they agreed to.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
But my point is, he's playing in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
This is where you are, and you you got your
big contract, and the idea that you thought everybody else
was gonna get cashed out and that town is just
not realistic.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And it doesn't mean there's about fifteen teams in.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
The NFL that doesn't that where they don't spend money,
so it's not there. It's not just everybody else is
all in and spending money left and right and building teams.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Even the Patriots didn't spend money.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Tom Brady gave them the hometown discount and all that go.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Look at where's the big players they signed. They didn't
sign people.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
They used up people, and when their contracts were when
there was time to pay them, they cut them.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
The Patriots were known for that.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I think for Tom Brady, like in a difference and
even if you want to go back to the Chiefs
with Patrick Mahomes, is the difference is I'm winning and
I feel like it's worth it because I'm competing for
a championship every single year.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Right. So now they told you Patrick Mahomes gave them
the discount with the idea to let's keep running this
back and keep the team together.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And the first thing they did was start to shed people.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
That's what I'm saying, Like what I'm saying, right, what
I'm saying, Patrick Mahomes, you're literally all you've known for
the most part of being in Super Bowls where it's like,
all right, well this is a winning formula. What we're
doing obviously they didn't win, but you're in the super Bowl,
and I just think Joe Burrow, who strikes me as
somebody who that's all he's here to do is compete
for those types the thing wants to win. This is
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how you end up being a low I was gonna
say middling franchise, but maybe not even middling. And you
lose a guy like a Joe Burrow, who you should
be extremely happy to have, who is very, very good,
one of the top three fourth quarterbacks in the league,
and now you you know, eventually this is how you
lose them, and you're competing without a guy like that.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, I just I think that there's enough. Joe Burrow's
not going anywhere. He's got a long term contract, he
got paid, he got his money, and obviously he would
love to have those guys.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But I just when you start worried about.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
GMing and who who's getting paid in other players, you're
gonna get in trouble because no matter what you do.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Doesn't mean that there are other guys are gonna get paid.
Teams are still gonna make their own decisions.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
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Speaker 6 (10:21):
So I'm on Ross Saint Brown, who does his own
podcast like they all do these days, everybody's got a podcast.
Him and his brother do one, and on their latest episode,
they were talking about all the latest happenings around the league,
and obviously if you're a wide receiver and his brother's
a wide receiver, the big talking point is what's going
on in Cincinnati with T Higgins? You guys mentioned now
we're one. He got the franchise DIGG for the second
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consecutive season, and according to the Detroit Lions Pro Bowl
Wide Receiver, he's not a fan of it.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Did you see, uh?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
T Higgins got franchise tag for a second year?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I did?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Boy, that should be legal. I don't give up with nobody.
He's so obvious, so hot, I don't care.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Nobody says it is good money, but still it's just like,
what was it the average of the top five?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah, but it's average of top five?
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Then is there's something else in it too? So I
think it's like twenty six point four million.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
That's still a lot.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
It's still good, but like you still want like real
you gotther get a bigger deal of more guaranteed money,
you know, like get locked in. That's true, especially if
you've been balling for the team and you've been like
for five to six years.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Here's my issue, couple issues.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
First of all, the players on to blame.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It just kills me.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Every year they sit around and talk about it ain't fair.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I would be hot. I would be hot if that
happened to be.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Kelvin. Yo.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
The owners didn't just push this on them. This is
in their CBA that they agreed to. Your to blame
all of your brother and you guys all deserve what
you get because you know what you wanted, less practice
time and to be able to smoke weed. That's what
you got.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
The NFL was really smart.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Roger Goodell makes forty to fifty million dollars. You know
why because he brings you guys in every single time,
and the owners laugh behind your backs. The NFL, what
do they do, Kelvin brag about how much money they're printing. Right,
they're printing money. But they have the worst The players
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have the worst collective bargaining agreement and the history of unions,
the history of unions. I don't care how much they
raise the salary cap. How many times do we see
guys get cut who have deals? Joey Bosa, all these guys,
they're losing that money at this fake contracts. Oh, Joey
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Bosa signed a five year, one hundred and forty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
No he did not.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
What was the guaranteed money what you just signed for?
You didn't sign for that that phony number that people
wave around and show. Oh look how much money they make.
Oh my god, let me tell you something. Juan Soto
for the New York Mets. Kelvin signed for seven hundred
and sixty five get a million.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Guess how much he's gonna.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Get seven hundred and sixty five.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Every nickel, every single nickel.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But this whole talk about the franchise tag, How in
the world did they ever agree to allow a team
to have you for five years, right, then be able
to franchise.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Tag you right three times? No less?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And then if you outplay your contract, you can't get
out of your contract.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But if you don't play well, what can they do?
Tell you to take a pay cut or they'll release you.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yeah, yeah, listen, man, this is one of the times.
You know, we and I like you, and I like
to have a good time. We like to have fun.
We'd like to challenge each other disagree on things. I
don't have much to disagree with except on paper. It
sounds like good money, right if you really dig into it,
because all right, you're Ta Higgins. You're making twenty six
and a half million dollars guarantee. We just talked about
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money is guaranteed, right, But the issue is your t Higgins.
I've been putting my blood, sweat and tears, my health
on the line for all these years. I want the
security of having seventy five eighty one hundred million dollars,
you know, deal with seventy five of the one hundred
guaranteed or eighty of the one hundred and twenty guaranteed,
so that I can know hey family for the next three,
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four or five years. Eighty million dollars, because that's all
that matters. As you mentioned, Rob, the guaranteed part comes
to me and my family, and that's what players want. Yeah,
that sounds good twenty six million, But I'm still young,
and I still have things that I want to do
and I'm still producing what happens next year? If I
don't produce what happens the next year where I'm not
living up to what your d how about if it
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gets hurt? You beat me to that last part, what
happens next year? If I get hurt, and then I
come to you and say, hey, man, I've done everything
right the last four or five years, had a little off.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Hear got banged up, but less you're gonna take care
of me right well, tee.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
We gotta get Jamar Chase. And so what we're thinking
is we're gonna we're gonna take care. Here's forty guaranteed.
And you're like, dude, forty when I know I was
worth eighty ninety hundred the year before.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
So you absolutely want to get that money. And that's why.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Players, you have to become a b This is what
I tell people in this business too.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Because we shot it off. You just missed it.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Go back to the last hour we talked about and
congratulated Steven A.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Smith for his big deal. You have to be in
the business of you.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I tell that to people in our business who have
contracts and agents and all of that, and loyalty stations
and networks. These networks love you, they say you're their people.
But at the end of the day, they're gonna take
care of what's business business for them. And if the
math and math and they're gonna do what they gotta do,
you have to be in the busines to you.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And I think.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Sometimes players you here, remember what Michael Parsons, Oh, I
don't mind, I'll.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Take a haircut.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I just want to say, hey, you gotta take care
of you, brother, and let your agent handle that. And
even if that's what you feel, don't say that, but
will he talk to your agent? Let him do what's
best by you, because teams are gonna do what's best
by them. And if you look back at the origin
of this stuff, it's pretty interesting. Goes back to ninety
three rob when they were trying to get figure out
free agency in the NFL, and basically one owner was like,
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I ain't losing John Elway because that was his quarterback,
Pat Bowlan.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
He said no, no, no, he wouldn't sign it.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
So all these negotiations and so it ended up becoming
the John Elway Rules what they called it for a
while before they officially started calling it the free You know,
the franchise tag. So the issue is you and I
have talked about this, rob thirty two players can be
tagged a year. Well, you know how many players are
you know, considered players in the league overall? You gotta
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practice squad all these things. Two thousand plus active players
in the Union. So what that means is you and
I mentioned it. Most of them like, ah, y'all can
go ahead, franchise and go ahead, keep that around because
it's not gonna happen to me. And so they never
negotiate thinking of themselves because ah, what are the chances
I'll be one of the thirty two? So go ahead.
And this is why you mentioned it. They never have
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a good war chest. They never have money in the bag.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
They don't have They never stopped the game.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
They never ever stopped the game because guys need money.
They don't prepare for these things. So the last CBA
back in twenty twenty, guess what happened. They're right back
to it. Franchise tag. They didn't even really fight for.
They agreed to it in the twenty twenty CBA, And
here we are again.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
You and I have these.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Conversations where the only thing they got was okay, you
can't use a franchise tag and a transition tag in
the same offseason.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
So this is just part of the course with the
NFLPA where they don't negotiate well, they don't plan well,
they don't take care of themselves well and take care
of you know, the totality.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Of the group.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
And this is how they keep getting stuck in these
positions and MLB just sitting there like y'all want to
read our playbook on how we do it.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Dude, Kelvin, let me tell you this. If I if
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Players Association had I would go, we want what they're having.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Seriously, what do they have played? Is simple?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Let us see Europe CBA with baseball and we're gonna
get the same exact It is the most ridiculous thing
not to have be on par as far as health
care pensions, the amount of money players get as a
pension ridiculous. Health care for only five years five years
after you retire. Guys retire, if you were short rob right,
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you were tied at thirty sport, you gotta wait for
your thirty five to get health benefits, right, and then
you only have them for five years to your forty Does.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
That make sense now? Mind you?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
You know oftentimes you got a wife, now you got
a few kids, and this and that.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
You got to figure this thing out.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
They don't. We don't mention you. They don't take care
of you in that way. So it's just they need
to figure out a way to go to the MLB
and say, look what are y'all doing?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Right?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Help us out because we're and not to mention how
many more years? What do you think two before they
get to eighteen games?
Speaker 8 (19:13):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Safety wants.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
We're gonna get to eighteen.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
If get to My daughters are probably teenagers, my oldest
being eight, they'll probably be at twenty.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Rob Gen you want to add, no, I'm just gonna
say it's fitting that you just brought up the games
because you opened it up. Rob talking about the big
thing they got was less prodded practice and the ability
to smoke weed, which is true, right. They got the
windows now where they're not tested for THHD. They get
smoke as much as they want to. The reason why,
if you recall this last CBA got ratified or was
it now five years ago? The biggest sticking points Number one,
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they raise the uptick in player revenue. They're getting a
bigger share of the pie, which is still less than
fifty percent. They're getting forty and a half percent. And
the only reason that it even went up to forty
eight and a half, it was gonna be forty eight
was the owners reserved the right to include a seventeenth game.
So all this talk about their players safety and all
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worried about that. That's why we can't practice with pads
on because you might get hurt. Okay, we're gonna throw
in a seventeenth car crash for you at the end
of the season without an extra bye week. The next step,
you know what's gonna come to the next CBA is
gonna be eighteen games. And you know what else is
not gonna be there, or it's still gonna be there,
is gonna be the franchise tag.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Oh if that.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Ain't going over, Rob g It's mind boggling, it really is.
It's so one sided. And I told you this before.
Probably the most damning thing that ever happened to the
players Union is when they had the agreement with the NFL,
the arbitration agreement on CTE and the payment. Remember, the
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NFL had to pay a pool of money, and they
agreed on the number. They went to the judge. Now,
when you have an arbitrator, right, and you both sides
agree and they.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Bring it to the judge, what does he do? The
judge just rubbers damps it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Right, you both sat down at the table and you
agreed with it, right, you agreed.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You both came in here and agreed. The judge looked
at the.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Amount of the money that the NFL was given the
union for the players and said, are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
This is not enough money.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
This is way too little, and threw it back and said,
we worked this. Why would a judge, judge has to
look at it and tell you it's a bad deal
for the players.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Everybody in the union should have been fired the next day, everybody.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
You're right, judges, you know they're trying to be impartial.
Just hey, y'all agreed upon it. Whatever I'm to say, okay, judge,
all right now, I can't let y'all do him dirty
like that.
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Tower of Trivia.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
See he doesn't like his co workers, seem.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Rob don't like his co workers. Oh, Mariio, you're not
the only one. Stephen A like his kenderd don't like
his nick, don't like it. It's okay anyways, it is
ty trivia.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I love my teammates. Havep Fox, You're a fibber.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
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led by none other than are Resident DJ Tom Crady himself.
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with it.
Speaker 10 (22:45):
Alex Tisher, It's so funny because I thought to myself,
what's a good way to help others? But by helping
myself and just actually talking about the world I wish
to live in. So I expressed it, others follow by
just being what I am. So also, we have to
welcome in Mancio Belonda. She's the in studio audience tonight.
It's a great time to have exciting to be here.
Speaker 9 (23:02):
I'm happy about this.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Alex, I don't know what you just said. I'm lightheaded
from not eating. Right now, you just said a whole lot.
You got my head spinning right, you're right, approx.
Speaker 10 (23:10):
Yeah, so I keep it simple. Just in the world
that seems so vast, It's really not that deep.
Speaker 11 (23:13):
And then you kept going, say what I mean so confused?
All right, guys, you know the rules to this game.
Y'all got one word? How ballace get up the tower?
Tonight's topic is all related to the Bengals, Joe Burrow,
t Higgins, Trey Henderson, all of the news this week,
so they're the theme.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
We flipped the coin.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
During Manchi's award winning up date, Rob Parker gets question
number one.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I don't think I ever got questions of Rob Parker.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Don't blow It's almost say here we go.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
You know the rules.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You got smoke last week.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Remember you got yottlet remember that no tom foolery A
right rock got a tissue for me?
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow played his college ball at LSU.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
Their rallying cry is blank Tigers.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Alex, how are you?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Rob?
Speaker 10 (24:00):
I'm doing exquisitely great, but I can't cele what's going on.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
If I could take you to Phoenix and go to
spring training and hang out with you.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
You know, I will rob top down exactly.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
All your bread to man.
Speaker 10 (24:15):
Just Rob, Just don't invite me over for dinner. I
don't know what we're gonna eat. I saw your fridge.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
There's no food to send you the picture.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
Of please do.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I'll do that, all right, Alex, Rob Okay, here we go.
Can you see me?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
No?
Speaker 10 (24:28):
I can't see the Ben mallor show Ben mallor here
we go Ben mallor Ben mallor.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
All right, Alex?
Speaker 9 (24:38):
You ready with my best right of my garden?
Speaker 12 (24:43):
All right?
Speaker 4 (24:43):
If I do?
Speaker 10 (24:52):
I'm sorry what you tell me to stop talking? You
don't want me to talk anymore?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (25:02):
Oh stop?
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Good job, so smart.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
I'll Rob. Stop it. It's flowing. He's got that v
thing by his avenue. It's pretty nice. No bbl here baby.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Level number two, back to dub Dumb.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
After the Bengals beat the Chiefs twice on the road,
their players jokingly called the Chiefs home stadium burrow blank.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Alex are good, brother?
Speaker 9 (25:36):
All right?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
K that's good.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
I don't know. I don't know about you anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Can It's just it's just not it's not authentic. Did
you see the way.
Speaker 9 (25:43):
He asked.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
All right, Alex, if only I could take you to
Phoenix and out right down the dusty deserts with you,
and we can spin all my free coupons and wingstop,
I take it, and Buffalo wild wings wouldn't be great?
Speaker 9 (26:00):
Oh I would love that. And I heard they have
new gluten free wings. Full stop it.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
All right, here we go, Alex.
Speaker 9 (26:06):
You're ready, Yes, let's go.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
All right. It's kind of hard because it's.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
Sorry words, it's a lot of words.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Here we go, all right, here we go. Okay, here
we go, Here we go here.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Red cannot rhyme over. I'm gonna do it again. It's
gotta be a reward. It's got to be an England Alex.
And you cannot rhyme.
Speaker 9 (26:42):
Ready, that's your fault.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
No, let's just get stitch, Alex. I want you, Alex.
Here we go.
Speaker 10 (26:52):
This is just we're locked in looking you deep in
your soul right now. All right, I see all that
chicken you've been eating.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Right, you're about to say something crazy?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
All right, Alex, here we go.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
Ready, can't ready?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Hold on, I'm watching some movement.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Monty Saturday's next.
Speaker 12 (27:09):
Wait a minute, Rob Jake, Wait, what'd you say shoulders?
That's good shoulders, but it rhymes with red shoulders.
Speaker 10 (27:22):
It can't be toes. No, I was gonna say that
head and toes. So wait, bro head head is good.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
We're gonna lose my job, so that's what I said.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Thought.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
So, Alex, what do you do to a muffin top? No? Jesus,
I hate it.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Ro Okay, yeah, I worried about that one too.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
About to Rob, he's up nineteen nothing in the Bengals edition.
It's not just dollars. Well, it's a slaughter, it's Rob.
There we go watch the Bengals franchise.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Rob has been family owned since nineteen sixty seven by
Paul and Mike Blank.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Alex, how are you?
Speaker 10 (28:06):
I'm doing great? Never asks me. I don't know why
you look at him. He just wants to go worried
about his family. Rob cares about me.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I'm always worried about Alex at his Thank you Ron.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
Okay, I need some help again.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
Don't rhyme, please Busters Buster, I'm back.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
I'm back in the game.
Speaker 9 (28:34):
But isn't that a name? Buster Brown.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Way?
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I need to sell sprite tunes and queens.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
No way, Alex. Somebody manziet.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Monty. Did you see my refrigerators?
Speaker 9 (28:58):
I did, I responded, I said, oh no.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's why I've lost ten pounds. Monster.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
Hey, yeah, you have more willpower than I do.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I can't believe you.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
All right back to w He's down twenty and I
think this is basically just for housekeeping.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
He doesn't want to get skunked.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
No, no, you saidty, I'm about to war thirty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
With the odd couple two point zh Here we go, dub.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Former Bengals fullback Icky Blank had one of the hottest
touchdown dances of the nineties. Of course, that was called
the Icky Shuffle.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Every now and again, you got to put something on
the board, you know what I mean. You ain't gonna
win them all, so I gotta get something on the board.
All right, Alex, my god, are you ready?
Speaker 9 (29:36):
G I'm so ready? Can you get Rob g?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Rob g? You?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
You fake?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Joe west umpire referee?
Speaker 9 (29:43):
You wow?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
To Tim Donahue.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Robe All right, here we go, Alex. Okay, I want
to lie, Alex.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
I'm dunking tonight.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah, Tiger, what that is?
Speaker 9 (30:02):
He's on the board. Shut out, you're gonna say, Rob, Oh, yeah,
I know.
Speaker 10 (30:08):
Stop morning gosh Alex Jack.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
That's why that's why Fred Rogan hasn't come on the
couple no more, because when one moment and he was
just like, I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Today we're just like, thanks, Tiger, can't believe you let
this name on the voicemail? Still still all right?
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Hey, what're having an affair?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Hey? This is Tiger?
Speaker 6 (30:32):
You know masters you might call it. Have you seen
my Bubi commercial? Hey, my wife might be calling you.
All right, here we go, Rob up twenty ten. We
gotta talk for one more, just for funzies.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I'm about to get it.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Bengals fans have their own chant, very similar to the
Saints champ By the way, that slogan is blank. They
think gonna beat them. Bengals did pull out. Geez, that's
why you don't win no more. This is why he
doesn't win.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
My glues shutting off? All right, I'll let you. Ready,
here we go.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
I'm ready, Rob, show me why you're the champro Yes,
let's do it. Come on all right, just like your fridge,
we don't hold nothing.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
All right, here we go that's good, adultree.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
I'm sorry what.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
That man?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
This adultreye. I don't even know what that means?
Speaker 9 (31:30):
What is that? What's the definition that I don't know?
Speaker 13 (31:35):
Just make make a guess. Rob is gonna win anyway,
So this is wait a minute, wait a minute, what
is it? It's the okay adultry?
Speaker 10 (31:46):
Yes, yeah, I guess. I'm just going to answer that
I know it is.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
Who told me one goltree?
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
No? Who
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
You're hot and bothered by the Cincinnati Bengal Well, I.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Mean it's one of those you know, Rob Wins.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
People have something to say about you and you maybe
feel a different way, like no, no, no, that's not
necessarily me. That's not a full representation of who I am,
what I'm about, blah blah blah. That'd be the Bengals,
right because people, they often would say, everybody, hey, the
Bengals are a cheap organization. They're not necessarily the best
or most well run organization.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Hey hey, hey, hey, that's not us. That's not true.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Even though we had our players, million dollar players playing
outside in the snow, freezing no practice facility for eons.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Now finally got that over the last couple of years.
But one of the.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Things that has been clear is their franchise quarterback one
of the best in the league who had an incredible
year this year. Joe Burrow, he has been very, very
forthright about the fact that, hey man, I want us
to get things right with this team. I want us
to find ways to actually start succeeding and winning and
getting back to a chance to beat a Super Bowl
(01:23):
like they did when he first came into the league.
And them franchising t Higgins again, I think is just
another slap to the face of hey, we're not fully
committed to winning. You know, you look at the look
at Trey Henderson, right they don't. They let him go,
(01:43):
and you're starting to see where you can see it.
Joe Burrow say, hey man, all I want to do
is compete for championships. And Joe Burrow mentioned this, He
said it earlier, you know, month, month, two months ago,
talking about he was willing to restructure his deal. H
He wants to find a way to keep t Higgins.
He wants to keep him, find a way to keep hendrickson.
He wants to find a way to keep Jamar happy.
(02:04):
He wants to do what we have just seen now
the Ranning Super Bowl champions do the Philadelphia Eagles. They
found a way take care of other star players. Pay
him early, maybe even overpaid for like a guy like
AJ Brown.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
But the fact is we have all the talent. We
have it all kept in house. And look at us.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
We've gone a couple of Super Bowls over the last
few years, winning one this year, and the Bengals aren't
doing that. You know, you got Tea Higgins Jesse. He
gets twenty six million because he's franchised. What's the second
year in a row. You have to know he doesn't
like that. He has to feel a certain way about
why won't you commit to me long term? Your best
defensive player on a horrific defensive team, Trey Hendrickson is
now gone. Who is one of the better that came
(02:43):
up second for Defensive Player of the Year Outstanding Player.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
He's gone on a defense that was already horrible.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
So you have to be wondering if Joe Burrow is
sitting here like, hey man, are we a little play
around organization or big boy organization. I'm trying to compete
and win and get up there with Patrick Mahomes and
eventually try to win one, and you know, make sure
I'm in the AFC Championship at the least like Josh Allen,
like Lamar Jackson. So to me, this is one of
(03:10):
those opportunities the last forty eight hours or so for
the Bengals to maybe say, no, man, we're serious.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
We're not what the rumors say, We're not what our
past is.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
And they dropped the ball in my opinion, because now
you have to have t Higgins wondering, man, am I
worth it?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And you know, do they take care of me?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Have given them a all for five six five years,
six years, whatever it's been.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
They won't commit to me. And Chay Henderson is gone
on a bad defense.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
That Joe Burrow was mad because they kept losing games
because of the defense.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Rob, Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with you. From this standpoint,
the Bengals are. They are a.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Mom in pop store. All teams are not created equal.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Even with the same salary cap, they don't have the money.
They were never going to be able to keep those players.
That's why a couple of years ago when they went
to the Super Bowl, that would have been their dream
is to actually win the Super Bowl and then you
don't have to pay everybody you paid the quarterback. We
even see it in Kansas City where they just said
their offensive line was terrible. They just let go on
(04:10):
all pro offensive linemen right because they don't want to pay.
Right Tyreek killed they didn't want to pay. This is
the NFL now, I would agree with you. If you're
the Dallas Cowboys and you have all this money and
Jerry's not spending money the last two years and saying, well,
if we taking of Zach dak Prescott, we worked his contract.
(04:32):
I don't know if that money's going to be spent
in free agency. There's the pushback on the Dallas Cowboys,
not the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You just said it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They didn't have a practice facility indoors until a couple
of years ago. They've been around forever. How in the
world where a couple of years ago they were still
practicing outside. I mean, come on, it tells you it's
a mom and pop operation in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I'm I really I think.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
People are misguided when they think that these teams and
these owners are all rolling in doe. If football is
your main business, you're not rolling in dough. Even the
Fords four to five or ten and four or five
six years ago they lost money owning an NFL team.
How do you lose money? Look it up anybody who
(05:23):
doubts it. There were three teams in the NFL that
lost money. So you hear the numbers, the TV ratings,
all the money, but the expenses and all the other
stuff that it takes to run a team unless you're
really wealthy. And Jerry has done it the last couple
of years, and maybe he's tightening up his belt because
(05:44):
it costs more to run a team, and he's starting
to say, well, I'm not taking money from my other
stuff to pay for the football and people will be happy.
And we still sell tickets Cincinnati if they don't have
empty State and empty seats there. So people want to
go to football. But this but Mike Brown is a
is a small mom and pop operation. The large borough
(06:05):
knows that he's from Ohio.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
The larger part for me, though, Rob, I totally hear
what you're saying, because everybody isn't Steve Bomer right. Steve
Bomber has and I know exactly mom using him as
an example, it's not NFL's NBA because he has he
has worked what one hundred and some billion.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
He's on a different level.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
So this is just his passion project that if you
will The only thing I'm the main point I'm focusing
on is that's fine, but this is how you can
lose a guy like a Joe Burrow because he's not
one of those guys that's just like, Oh, I'm just
happy to be in the league. While I never saw
this coming, Joe Burrow wants to compete with the likes
of a Patrick Josh Lamar. He wants to win championships,
(06:46):
and I totally get the way. Okay, if you're gonna
run a business operation like that, that's fine, But then
that's how.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
You lose a Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
How you lose out on chances to compete and win
for titles because of this, and that's and if that's
how you're running it, then that's fine. And Bengos fans
have to know that Joe Burrow is gonna have to
be okay with that, which I don't believe he is.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I believe he wants to win.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
I don't think his competitiveness coming from college winning. I
don't think he sits back and like, oh man, we
just go out there and I perform well, and so
to me, if they're gonna operate.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Like, but I hear you in the perfect world.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Look at what they're doing in Seattle getting rid of
their receivers.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Look at what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
All over We got a whole reason. Yeah, we got
a whole conversation like.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
This is not this is not anything new.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And if you're Joe Burrow, really they're gonna keep all those.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Players in Cincinnati. I never believed it.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's lucky he took a less of a deal because
it's Cincinnati, not exactly what I don't think he had said.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
He was willing to restructure the deal to try to
keep these guys too.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But there's not enough money for them to pay all
those guys, and that's why they do it. We'll talk
about an hour number two. It's the system that's bad,
and so the players have to live with that bad
system that they agreed to.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
But my point is, he's playing in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
This is where you are, and you you got your
big contract, and the idea that you thought everybody else
was gonna get cashed out and that town is just
not realistic.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And it doesn't mean there's about fifteen teams in.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
The NFL that doesn't that where they don't spend money,
so it's not there. It's not just everybody else is
all in and spending money left and right and building teams.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Even the Patriots didn't spend money.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Tom Brady gave them the hometown discount and all that go.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Look at where's the big players they signed. They didn't
sign people.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
They used up people, and when their contracts were when
there was time to pay them, they cut them.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
The Patriots were known for that.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I think for Tom Brady, like in a difference and
even if you want to go back to the Chiefs
with Patrick Mahomes, is the difference is I'm winning and
I feel like it's worth it because I'm competing for
a championship every single year.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Right. So now they told you Patrick Mahomes gave them
the discount with the idea to let's keep running this
back and keep the team together.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And the first thing they did was start to shed people.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
That's what I'm saying, Like what I'm saying, right, what
I'm saying, Patrick Mahomes, you're literally all you've known for
the most part of being in Super Bowls where it's like,
all right, well this is a winning formula. What we're
doing obviously they didn't win, but you're in the super Bowl,
and I just think Joe Burrow, who strikes me as
somebody who that's all he's here to do is compete
for those types the thing wants to win. This is
(09:26):
how you end up being a low I was gonna
say middling franchise, but maybe not even middling. And you
lose a guy like a Joe Burrow, who you should
be extremely happy to have, who is very, very good,
one of the top three fourth quarterbacks in the league,
and now you you know, eventually this is how you
lose them, and you're competing without a guy like that.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, I just I think that there's enough. Joe Burrow's
not going anywhere. He's got a long term contract, he
got paid, he got his money, and obviously he would
love to have those guys.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But I just when you start worried about.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
GMing and who who's getting paid in other players, you're
gonna get in trouble because no matter what you do.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Doesn't mean that there are other guys are gonna get paid.
Teams are still gonna make their own decisions.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
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Speaker 6 (10:21):
So I'm on Ross Saint Brown, who does his own
podcast like they all do these days, everybody's got a podcast.
Him and his brother do one, and on their latest episode,
they were talking about all the latest happenings around the league,
and obviously if you're a wide receiver and his brother's
a wide receiver, the big talking point is what's going
on in Cincinnati with T Higgins? You guys mentioned now
we're one. He got the franchise DIGG for the second
(10:43):
consecutive season, and according to the Detroit Lions Pro Bowl
Wide Receiver, he's not a fan of it.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Did you see, uh?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
T Higgins got franchise tag for a second year?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I did?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Boy, that should be legal. I don't give up with nobody.
He's so obvious, so hot, I don't care.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Nobody says it is good money, but still it's just like,
what was it the average of the top five?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah, but it's average of top five?
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Then is there's something else in it too? So I
think it's like twenty six point four million.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
That's still a lot.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
It's still good, but like you still want like real
you gotther get a bigger deal of more guaranteed money,
you know, like get locked in. That's true, especially if
you've been balling for the team and you've been like
for five to six years.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Here's my issue, couple issues.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
First of all, the players on to blame.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It just kills me.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Every year they sit around and talk about it ain't fair.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I would be hot. I would be hot if that
happened to be.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Kelvin. Yo.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
The owners didn't just push this on them. This is
in their CBA that they agreed to. Your to blame
all of your brother and you guys all deserve what
you get because you know what you wanted, less practice
time and to be able to smoke weed. That's what
you got.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
The NFL was really smart.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Roger Goodell makes forty to fifty million dollars. You know
why because he brings you guys in every single time,
and the owners laugh behind your backs. The NFL, what
do they do, Kelvin brag about how much money they're printing. Right,
they're printing money. But they have the worst The players
(12:29):
have the worst collective bargaining agreement and the history of unions,
the history of unions. I don't care how much they
raise the salary cap. How many times do we see
guys get cut who have deals? Joey Bosa, all these guys,
they're losing that money at this fake contracts. Oh, Joey
(12:51):
Bosa signed a five year, one hundred and forty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
No he did not.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
What was the guaranteed money what you just signed for?
You didn't sign for that that phony number that people
wave around and show. Oh look how much money they make.
Oh my god, let me tell you something. Juan Soto
for the New York Mets. Kelvin signed for seven hundred
and sixty five get a million.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Guess how much he's gonna.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Get seven hundred and sixty five.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Every nickel, every single nickel.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But this whole talk about the franchise tag, How in
the world did they ever agree to allow a team
to have you for five years, right, then be able
to franchise.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Tag you right three times? No less?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And then if you outplay your contract, you can't get
out of your contract.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But if you don't play well, what can they do?
Tell you to take a pay cut or they'll release you.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yeah, yeah, listen, man, this is one of the times.
You know, we and I like you, and I like
to have a good time. We like to have fun.
We'd like to challenge each other disagree on things. I
don't have much to disagree with except on paper. It
sounds like good money, right if you really dig into it,
because all right, you're Ta Higgins. You're making twenty six
and a half million dollars guarantee. We just talked about
(14:18):
money is guaranteed, right, But the issue is your t Higgins.
I've been putting my blood, sweat and tears, my health
on the line for all these years. I want the
security of having seventy five eighty one hundred million dollars,
you know, deal with seventy five of the one hundred
guaranteed or eighty of the one hundred and twenty guaranteed,
so that I can know hey family for the next three,
(14:40):
four or five years. Eighty million dollars, because that's all
that matters. As you mentioned, Rob, the guaranteed part comes
to me and my family, and that's what players want. Yeah,
that sounds good twenty six million, But I'm still young,
and I still have things that I want to do
and I'm still producing what happens next year? If I
don't produce what happens the next year where I'm not
living up to what your d how about if it
(15:00):
gets hurt? You beat me to that last part, what
happens next year? If I get hurt, and then I
come to you and say, hey, man, I've done everything
right the last four or five years, had a little off.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Hear got banged up, but less you're gonna take care
of me right well, tee.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
We gotta get Jamar Chase. And so what we're thinking
is we're gonna we're gonna take care. Here's forty guaranteed.
And you're like, dude, forty when I know I was
worth eighty ninety hundred the year before.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
So you absolutely want to get that money. And that's why.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Players, you have to become a b This is what
I tell people in this business too.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Because we shot it off. You just missed it.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Go back to the last hour we talked about and
congratulated Steven A.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Smith for his big deal. You have to be in
the business of you.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I tell that to people in our business who have
contracts and agents and all of that, and loyalty stations
and networks. These networks love you, they say you're their people.
But at the end of the day, they're gonna take
care of what's business business for them. And if the
math and math and they're gonna do what they gotta do,
you have to be in the busines to you.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And I think.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Sometimes players you here, remember what Michael Parsons, Oh, I
don't mind, I'll.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Take a haircut.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I just want to say, hey, you gotta take care
of you, brother, and let your agent handle that. And
even if that's what you feel, don't say that, but
will he talk to your agent? Let him do what's
best by you, because teams are gonna do what's best
by them. And if you look back at the origin
of this stuff, it's pretty interesting. Goes back to ninety
three rob when they were trying to get figure out
free agency in the NFL, and basically one owner was like,
(16:29):
I ain't losing John Elway because that was his quarterback,
Pat Bowlan.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
He said no, no, no, he wouldn't sign it.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
So all these negotiations and so it ended up becoming
the John Elway Rules what they called it for a
while before they officially started calling it the free You know,
the franchise tag. So the issue is you and I
have talked about this, rob thirty two players can be
tagged a year. Well, you know how many players are
you know, considered players in the league overall? You gotta
(16:55):
practice squad all these things. Two thousand plus active players
in the Union. So what that means is you and
I mentioned it. Most of them like, ah, y'all can
go ahead, franchise and go ahead, keep that around because
it's not gonna happen to me. And so they never
negotiate thinking of themselves because ah, what are the chances
I'll be one of the thirty two? So go ahead.
And this is why you mentioned it. They never have
(17:17):
a good war chest. They never have money in the bag.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
They don't have They never stopped the game.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
They never ever stopped the game because guys need money.
They don't prepare for these things. So the last CBA
back in twenty twenty, guess what happened. They're right back
to it. Franchise tag. They didn't even really fight for.
They agreed to it in the twenty twenty CBA, And
here we are again.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
You and I have these.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Conversations where the only thing they got was okay, you
can't use a franchise tag and a transition tag in
the same offseason.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
So this is just part of the course with the
NFLPA where they don't negotiate well, they don't plan well,
they don't take care of themselves well and take care
of you know, the totality.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Of the group.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
And this is how they keep getting stuck in these
positions and MLB just sitting there like y'all want to
read our playbook on how we do it.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Dude, Kelvin, let me tell you this. If I if
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Players Association had I would go, we want what they're having.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Seriously, what do they have played? Is simple?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Let us see Europe CBA with baseball and we're gonna
get the same exact It is the most ridiculous thing
not to have be on par as far as health
care pensions, the amount of money players get as a
pension ridiculous. Health care for only five years five years
after you retire. Guys retire, if you were short rob right,
(18:40):
you were tied at thirty sport, you gotta wait for
your thirty five to get health benefits, right, and then
you only have them for five years to your forty Does.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
That make sense now? Mind you?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
You know oftentimes you got a wife, now you got
a few kids, and this and that.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
You got to figure this thing out.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
They don't. We don't mention you. They don't take care
of you in that way. So it's just they need
to figure out a way to go to the MLB
and say, look what are y'all doing?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Right?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Help us out because we're and not to mention how
many more years? What do you think two before they
get to eighteen games?
Speaker 8 (19:13):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Safety wants.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
We're gonna get to eighteen.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
If get to My daughters are probably teenagers, my oldest
being eight, they'll probably be at twenty.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Rob Gen you want to add, no, I'm just gonna
say it's fitting that you just brought up the games
because you opened it up. Rob talking about the big
thing they got was less prodded practice and the ability
to smoke weed, which is true, right. They got the
windows now where they're not tested for THHD. They get
smoke as much as they want to. The reason why,
if you recall this last CBA got ratified or was
it now five years ago? The biggest sticking points Number one,
(19:49):
they raise the uptick in player revenue. They're getting a
bigger share of the pie, which is still less than
fifty percent. They're getting forty and a half percent. And
the only reason that it even went up to forty
eight and a half, it was gonna be forty eight
was the owners reserved the right to include a seventeenth game.
So all this talk about their players safety and all
(20:12):
worried about that. That's why we can't practice with pads
on because you might get hurt. Okay, we're gonna throw
in a seventeenth car crash for you at the end
of the season without an extra bye week. The next step,
you know what's gonna come to the next CBA is
gonna be eighteen games. And you know what else is
not gonna be there, or it's still gonna be there,
is gonna be the franchise tag.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Oh if that.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Ain't going over, Rob g It's mind boggling, it really is.
It's so one sided. And I told you this before.
Probably the most damning thing that ever happened to the
players Union is when they had the agreement with the NFL,
the arbitration agreement on CTE and the payment. Remember, the
(20:52):
NFL had to pay a pool of money, and they
agreed on the number. They went to the judge. Now,
when you have an arbitrator, right, and you both sides
agree and they.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Bring it to the judge, what does he do? The
judge just rubbers damps it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Right, you both sat down at the table and you
agreed with it, right, you agreed.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You both came in here and agreed. The judge looked
at the.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Amount of the money that the NFL was given the
union for the players and said, are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
This is not enough money.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
This is way too little, and threw it back and said,
we worked this. Why would a judge, judge has to
look at it and tell you it's a bad deal
for the players.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Everybody in the union should have been fired the next day, everybody.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
You're right, judges, you know they're trying to be impartial.
Just hey, y'all agreed upon it. Whatever I'm to say, okay, judge,
all right now, I can't let y'all do him dirty
like that.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
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Speaker 9 (22:07):
This game is so easy for tight shirts.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Tower of Trivia.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
See he doesn't like his co workers, seem.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Rob don't like his co workers. Oh, Mariio, you're not
the only one. Stephen A like his kenderd don't like
his nick, don't like it. It's okay anyways, it is
ty trivia.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
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Speaker 6 (22:35):
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Speaker 10 (22:45):
Alex Tisher, It's so funny because I thought to myself,
what's a good way to help others? But by helping
myself and just actually talking about the world I wish
to live in. So I expressed it, others follow by
just being what I am. So also, we have to
welcome in Mancio Belonda. She's the in studio audience tonight.
It's a great time to have exciting to be here.
Speaker 9 (23:02):
I'm happy about this.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Alex, I don't know what you just said. I'm lightheaded
from not eating. Right now, you just said a whole lot.
You got my head spinning right, you're right, approx.
Speaker 10 (23:10):
Yeah, so I keep it simple. Just in the world
that seems so vast, It's really not that deep.
Speaker 11 (23:13):
And then you kept going, say what I mean so confused?
All right, guys, you know the rules to this game.
Y'all got one word? How ballace get up the tower?
Tonight's topic is all related to the Bengals, Joe Burrow,
t Higgins, Trey Henderson, all of the news this week,
so they're the theme.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
We flipped the coin.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
During Manchi's award winning up date, Rob Parker gets question
number one.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I don't think I ever got questions of Rob Parker.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Don't blow It's almost say here we go.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
You know the rules.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You got smoke last week.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Remember you got yottlet remember that no tom foolery A
right rock got a tissue for me?
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow played his college ball at LSU.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
Their rallying cry is blank Tigers.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Alex, how are you?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Rob?
Speaker 10 (24:00):
I'm doing exquisitely great, but I can't cele what's going on.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
If I could take you to Phoenix and go to
spring training and hang out with you.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
You know, I will rob top down exactly.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
All your bread to man.
Speaker 10 (24:15):
Just Rob, Just don't invite me over for dinner. I
don't know what we're gonna eat. I saw your fridge.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
There's no food to send you the picture.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
Of please do.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I'll do that, all right, Alex, Rob Okay, here we go.
Can you see me?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
No?
Speaker 10 (24:28):
I can't see the Ben mallor show Ben mallor here
we go Ben mallor Ben mallor.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
All right, Alex?
Speaker 9 (24:38):
You ready with my best right of my garden?
Speaker 12 (24:43):
All right?
Speaker 4 (24:43):
If I do?
Speaker 10 (24:52):
I'm sorry what you tell me to stop talking? You
don't want me to talk anymore?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (25:02):
Oh stop?
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Good job, so smart.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
I'll Rob. Stop it. It's flowing. He's got that v
thing by his avenue. It's pretty nice. No bbl here baby.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Level number two, back to dub Dumb.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
After the Bengals beat the Chiefs twice on the road,
their players jokingly called the Chiefs home stadium burrow blank.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Alex are good, brother?
Speaker 9 (25:36):
All right?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
K that's good.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
I don't know. I don't know about you anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Can It's just it's just not it's not authentic. Did
you see the way.
Speaker 9 (25:43):
He asked.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
All right, Alex, if only I could take you to
Phoenix and out right down the dusty deserts with you,
and we can spin all my free coupons and wingstop,
I take it, and Buffalo wild wings wouldn't be great?
Speaker 9 (26:00):
Oh I would love that. And I heard they have
new gluten free wings. Full stop it.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
All right, here we go, Alex.
Speaker 9 (26:06):
You're ready, Yes, let's go.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
All right. It's kind of hard because it's.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
Sorry words, it's a lot of words.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Here we go, all right, here we go. Okay, here
we go, Here we go here.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Red cannot rhyme over. I'm gonna do it again. It's
gotta be a reward. It's got to be an England Alex.
And you cannot rhyme.
Speaker 9 (26:42):
Ready, that's your fault.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
No, let's just get stitch, Alex. I want you, Alex.
Here we go.
Speaker 10 (26:52):
This is just we're locked in looking you deep in
your soul right now. All right, I see all that
chicken you've been eating.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Right, you're about to say something crazy?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
All right, Alex, here we go.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
Ready, can't ready?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Hold on, I'm watching some movement.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Monty Saturday's next.
Speaker 12 (27:09):
Wait a minute, Rob Jake, Wait, what'd you say shoulders?
That's good shoulders, but it rhymes with red shoulders.
Speaker 10 (27:22):
It can't be toes. No, I was gonna say that
head and toes. So wait, bro head head is good.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
We're gonna lose my job, so that's what I said.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Thought.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
So, Alex, what do you do to a muffin top? No? Jesus,
I hate it.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Ro Okay, yeah, I worried about that one too.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
About to Rob, he's up nineteen nothing in the Bengals edition.
It's not just dollars. Well, it's a slaughter, it's Rob.
There we go watch the Bengals franchise.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Rob has been family owned since nineteen sixty seven by
Paul and Mike Blank.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Alex, how are you?
Speaker 10 (28:06):
I'm doing great? Never asks me. I don't know why
you look at him. He just wants to go worried
about his family. Rob cares about me.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I'm always worried about Alex at his Thank you Ron.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
Okay, I need some help again.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
Don't rhyme, please Busters Buster, I'm back.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
I'm back in the game.
Speaker 9 (28:34):
But isn't that a name? Buster Brown.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Way?
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I need to sell sprite tunes and queens.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
No way, Alex. Somebody manziet.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Monty. Did you see my refrigerators?
Speaker 9 (28:58):
I did, I responded, I said, oh no.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's why I've lost ten pounds. Monster.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
Hey, yeah, you have more willpower than I do.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I can't believe you.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
All right back to w He's down twenty and I
think this is basically just for housekeeping.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
He doesn't want to get skunked.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
No, no, you saidty, I'm about to war thirty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
With the odd couple two point zh Here we go, dub.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Former Bengals fullback Icky Blank had one of the hottest
touchdown dances of the nineties. Of course, that was called
the Icky Shuffle.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Every now and again, you got to put something on
the board, you know what I mean. You ain't gonna
win them all, so I gotta get something on the board.
All right, Alex, my god, are you ready?
Speaker 9 (29:36):
G I'm so ready? Can you get Rob g?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Rob g? You?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
You fake?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Joe west umpire referee?
Speaker 9 (29:43):
You wow?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
To Tim Donahue.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Robe All right, here we go, Alex. Okay, I want
to lie, Alex.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
I'm dunking tonight.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah, Tiger, what that is?
Speaker 9 (30:02):
He's on the board. Shut out, you're gonna say, Rob, Oh, yeah,
I know.
Speaker 10 (30:08):
Stop morning gosh Alex Jack.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
That's why that's why Fred Rogan hasn't come on the
couple no more, because when one moment and he was
just like, I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Today we're just like, thanks, Tiger, can't believe you let
this name on the voicemail? Still still all right?
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Hey, what're having an affair?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Hey? This is Tiger?
Speaker 6 (30:32):
You know masters you might call it. Have you seen
my Bubi commercial? Hey, my wife might be calling you.
All right, here we go, Rob up twenty ten. We
gotta talk for one more, just for funzies.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I'm about to get it.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Bengals fans have their own chant, very similar to the
Saints champ By the way, that slogan is blank. They
think gonna beat them. Bengals did pull out. Geez, that's
why you don't win no more. This is why he
doesn't win.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
My glues shutting off? All right, I'll let you. Ready,
here we go.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
I'm ready, Rob, show me why you're the champro Yes,
let's do it. Come on all right, just like your fridge,
we don't hold nothing.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
All right, here we go that's good, adultree.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
I'm sorry what.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
That man?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
This adultreye. I don't even know what that means?
Speaker 9 (31:30):
What is that? What's the definition that I don't know?
Speaker 13 (31:35):
Just make make a guess. Rob is gonna win anyway,
So this is wait a minute, wait a minute, what
is it? It's the okay adultry?
Speaker 10 (31:46):
Yes, yeah, I guess. I'm just going to answer that
I know it is.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
Who told me one goltree?
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
No? Who
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