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March 11, 2025 38 mins

Rob and Kelvin debate whether this latest Achilles injury should be enough to force Tiger Woods into retirement and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, The Athletic national NFL writer Mike Jones swings by to discuss Daniel Jones’ arrival in Indy, his expectations for Sam Darnold in Seattle, why the Raiders felt compelled to trade for Geno Smith, what’s going on with the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback situation and much more!

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whole thing.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Tiger Woods is injured. It's not a headline anymore. Rocket.
It seems to happen all the time.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
It's so bad, Yo PTI the last run and his
shoot off stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Is that Tiger Woods injured? Like you would think that
would be like the Hey, Tiger, can I rub it
for you? Are you okay?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Let's Tiger.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Any excuse to bring that drop in? Yes?

Speaker 7 (04:29):
But yes, Today, unfortunately, Tiger Woods announced that he underwent
surgery after rupturing his left achilles.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Today.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
He did not know, He did not He was wrapping
up for the upcoming Masters, coming taking place in April.
There has been no official timeline given for his recovery,
but medical doctors sports injury enthusiasts say, hey, generally four
to six months. Given his injury history, though, and his
propensity to keep getting injured, more than likely six to

(05:01):
nine months for Tiger Woods to be back playing competitive golf,
which he has not played in months to begin with.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
I got a message. This is a public service announcement
to Tiger Woods and to all golfers and just people
in general.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Tiger Woods should retire enough already, stop it.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
I mean, come on, the last time Tiger Woods was
good and playing golf out of his mind.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Sports writers were using typewriters. Stop it. It's been a
long time.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
You got kids in college now who don't remember the
great Tiger. I was on my I was married, I
was on my honeymoon. When he was winning the Masters
for the first time. He cost me my marriage. Tiger Woods,
I can't even say. It's a shell of himself. He's
a broken shell of himself. It's disheartening to hear the

(06:05):
news over and over and over Tigers banged up, tigers
heard Tiger's injured.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I'm dead serious.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
You're not gonna catch the record for the most Masters, right,
I mean most majors. That's done. It ain't happening. You
can sit here and try to pretend. Yeah, I too
got a chance. I just need to win. I don't
know how many. Is it four more to pass Jack?
I just need four. No, bro, it ain't happening, And
why continue to do this. It's not about money. He's

(06:40):
got all that. He's one of the greatest golfers who
ever played. Most people probably would make him number one
when it's all said and done.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
That the start to his career was as great as.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Any career for anybody, any sport, anybody. He's Tiger You
don't even have to use woods enough. But I'm serious, like,
why why ever? Since the injuries and the beating that
he took from his ex wife with the golf club
and all that, it has all been downhill and Tiger

(07:12):
Woods to me is now a disappointment because it's always
bad news. It's a wowsy wowsy woo woo every time
we mentioned Tiger Woods.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Wow playing woo.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
The only thing I would say different than that is
the twenty nineteen Masters, obviously, So I think there that
was a shining moment that brought him back. Everybody was excited.
People who hated him were excited. People who loved them
were probably saying, see, I told you he could still
get it done. And I think that revitalized him for
a little bit. The couple of issues though, six back surgeries. Man,

(07:49):
the man has had six back surgeries.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
This belief.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Now you got this ruptured achilles. Obviously, we know he
talks about himself publicly that walking for four days is
really his biggest trouble. Biggest he had the car crash
a few years ago. So it's just been a rough
go for him. But I think if there's something robbed
that's keeping him in the game, it is him seeing
Lebron and Brownie have that moment. And I really mean this.

(08:12):
I think if you see Tiger Woods, all the troubles
he's been through for shedding towards almost twenty years now, right,
the personal life issues, the physical issues, the losing that
have to withdraw from master tournaments. He hasn't finished in
the top twenty since that Master's win in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Just think about what you just said. He hadn't finished
in the top twenty twenty since twenty nineteen. We're talking
about six years, and he's had to withdraw from several tournaments.
But here's the thing. When do we see him as
happiest when he's anything involving Charlie. He is out there thrilled.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Charlie is obviously playing now playing very well, and I
mean he is having the as any father, the joy
to see his son produce.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
S know, he could be Charlie's a caddy.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah fine, but you know what, I think he wants
to see if he can have one last moment. I
don't even got to win the tournament, you know, in
this case, he will be the le BRONI in this
lebron James, and I think he will try to. I
absolutely believe he will try to because he only has
to wait two years. What's he trying to do to

(09:18):
play in a tournament with his son, an actual PGA tournament.
And if you want to tell me that you out, Augusta,
you're going to tell me that they're going to rigg
it so that they play together or put them together.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
So if you're golf, hecky, what you mean. This is
a business.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
You make the cut. So is Charlie. And we're gonna
find a way to make this cut. I'm just trying
to say, they're not going to do that. Uh and
and and compromise and just put him in to put
him in Tiger, Tiger thet He'll make a cut.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Now, whether it be the Masters or something, I don't know.
We'll have to see.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
That would be the ideal situation, right, My last tournament
is the Masters. With my son Charlie sixteen, you have
to be eighteen, so a couple more years for him.
That will give Tiger, obviously some time to get any
better back from the injury. And I truly believe he
will try to go out because next year Tiger will
be fifty and he can get in the senior circuit.
But I think he's gonna try to stay in the

(10:12):
normal PGA, wait a couple of years and have his
Lebron Bronni where he will be Bronni Ken Griffrey, Ken
Griffy and Tiger now in Charlie moment. I truly believe it,
because what else to be to your point, what else
is there? He's the arguably the greatest. Most people believe
he is of not one A one B. He has
all the money.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
In the world. Thing is one A on one B.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
But go ahead, one A one T as in Tiger
and all of a sudden, that's the thing that's keeping
him going, and I think he wants to. That's my
belief is that he's gonna want to have that moment
with his son, Charlie. Whether he loses the winner, he
doesn't care at that point. I had this moment with
my son. How amazing was that. I truly believe it.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I just don't think he can play. And that's the
other thing. He only needs a must up one more
time rod one moment. So you're talking about two years
from now. He can't even get on the court on
the course.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Now you have a photo op, go there and stand
next to him on the course, that could take your
picture and there you are watching your son.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
What's the difference?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
What do you mean with the difference is I was
in an official tournament with my son and we played
together and we had our Luther Van draws.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
One shining moment, one shining moment.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
I think that again, always trying to dress up stuff.
The kid is supposed to be the star, not the dad,
the same way that the lebron thing didn't work. If
Charlie's a start his own, right, then that's different. If
Charlie's not. And this is just about Tiger, because you
remember Ken Griffy Junior was a star, not Ken Griffy.

(11:47):
At that point, it will be Charlie, Okay, it would
have to be because it can't be Tiger Star.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
You've seen a shooting start and burn out.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
All the news I hear is bad when it comes
to Tiger, and I just think, man, just just give
it a rest. Don't go out like this. Don't make
people have these kids feeling like this was the guy,
This is the guy. You're talking about you're in college.
You got kids in college now who have only seen
Tiger Woods banged up, injured, crashing or playing bad golf

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or not making cuts.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I'm serious, clashing guy.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
You gotta remember when I was when I'm you know,
I didn't when I when I didn't seal a deal
after my wedding in Tokyo watching Tiger and the Masters.
At least that was nineteen ninety seven. Nineteen ninety seven,
my hair was all black.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
All anything about anything about your hair, Tiger Woods. We
need to just understand how you didn't seal the deal
because I was watching the golf. We were both we
were both Georgia Iron you know.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Twelve iyres, how about my nine Wood?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Were using your clubs and you over here worried about Tiger.
We were watching it. I'm not lying, No, you were.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
She was watching you like I can't believe. I mean,
I hadn't bought this little linzer way for him. We over
here in mid live. He was there, you over here
looking ridiculous with a red with a red polo on
like you were Tiger Woods, And I'm like, can.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
You move out the way?

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I can't believe. She go over here, Zen, and you're like, Babe,
you're right in front of the TV. You ain't made
a glass. Can't believe you?

Speaker 6 (13:27):
Rod?

Speaker 4 (13:28):
All right, Yes, thanks Tiger And that's him calling you
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. It is the
odd couple on a trash talking Tuesday. And uh, it's
real simple. We want to hear from you. Should Tiger

(13:48):
Woods retire or should he do everything so that he
can play in one big tournament with his son. We'll
continue that conversation next with you. It is the odd
couple on a trash talking Whose day, Rob Parker Kelvin
Washington right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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(16:16):
Tiger Woods, Akila's injury gonna be down six to nine
months again. He just gets down and really battered. At
this point, I say he's only sticking around. At this point,
Rob to play one time with Charlie. You say, no way,
no how, go away. At this point eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
We got Scott in Pennsyl Tucky. You're on the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 8 (16:37):
What's up, Scott, Hey, good evening to the best team
on the radio.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
I appreciate you, We appreciate that let me tell you something, guys,
I really would like Tiger to retire.

Speaker 8 (16:48):
How I want to remember him is you remember that
they used to have the Greater Milwaukee Open and he
was coming down the fairway and a fan goes out
into the middle of the fairway, goes on his knees
and bows down. I have never seen I mean, I
know what it was like to watch Jack Nicholas, right,

(17:08):
I've got to know what it was like to watch
the great Tiger Woods and gentlemen. That's why. That's how
I want to remember this gentleman.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
And now, guess what if Tiger were to bow down,
he wouldn't be able to get up.

Speaker 8 (17:20):
Oh, I know it because I've had six surgeries myself
on my legs.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
You know what I'm talking about. Do you get a
knee replacement, Scott, I'm thinking about getting one. Did you
get a knee replacement?

Speaker 8 (17:29):
I have two of them and I have to have
the other one redone again. Wow, I have more nuts,
bolts and screws in my legs and on depot.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Man man a right, will you rest up? Brother? That's right?
I know he ain't going through the meta detextas. Thank you,
and Southwest will probably charge him extra to he man, Hey,
you made us. We had to put you through a
special metal detector. That's gonna cost you. You heard that,
Alex Right, no bags, this is getting three three bags anymore? Southwest.
Everybody needs money. It's crazy. I think they're gonna start

(17:57):
asking employees at pay monthly. Seriously crazy, I told, I
told Rob, I can't.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
People are about to how much longer they expect people
to pay gas, eggs, bags, everything? How much trying to
pass al off here in California, you gotta pays the
freeway or something per mile.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
They're doing it in New York, Ohio.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
But yeah, all right, Sydney and Orlando, you're in the
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Speaker 2 (18:18):
What's up, Sydney?

Speaker 8 (18:20):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 6 (18:21):
Rob?

Speaker 2 (18:21):
How are you?

Speaker 6 (18:23):
I'm good Man? Hey, yeah, Man, Titan.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Was much CEE TV man with all the injuries.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Now, I was like, if you watch him walk, looks
like it almost looks like it hurts him to walk.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yes, well, hey, he said it does.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Sidney said, walk in those four days when he's in
the tournament is the hardest thing for him.

Speaker 9 (18:40):
Now, well, man, shut it down, man, dig it up,
because you know nobody wants to see you.

Speaker 8 (18:45):
Go out like that, especially with everything he was doing
before he got hurt, and now I's like, man, it's
hard to watch him walk.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Man, that's all I got.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
No Yes, Rob, she killing tom Brady.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Tom Brady sitting at home minus business, Sidney, Sidney, you
don't worry about it. Mike in Augusta, Georgia. You're in
the couple of fox sporituating.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
What up, Mike?

Speaker 8 (19:11):
What up?

Speaker 6 (19:12):
Fellas?

Speaker 9 (19:12):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
What's good? How are you?

Speaker 6 (19:15):
I'm good, I'm good. I'm holding tight. The last time
I talked to y'all was on the way to the hospital.
Since then, you know, my mom passed away.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Oh man, sorry to hear that.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Prayers to your family room.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
Yeah, thanks guys. Yeah, we're hoping on.

Speaker 9 (19:29):
But yeah, to twitch Gears, I'm of the opposite consensus.
I don't think he should retire because this isn't basketball,
you know, he is golf.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
He can take. Just take the time off the rehab properly.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
D E.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
I needs Tiger and Charlie. We need y'all. So get
it again.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
You say what you say, Yeah, that's what he said.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
D I need them, man, take it down to rehab
and walk those four four rounds.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Man, we need him. Number retires just yet.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Mike, me and Rob talked about this boy. Where was
the brother explosion in golf? We've seen it, and we've
seen it in tennis. We've seen it.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
It is the thing about Tiger is that he didn't
have an impact, which is unbelievable when you.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Think about all the money everybody five years ago, if
you because everybody went to play golf and take up golf.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
A lot of people did during that time.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
But it's surprised, and I think it was a couple
of black golfers, but nobody who made it.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
But I mean tennis, you see it like you see
the result of the Williams sisters.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
It's it's unbelievable. How there's nobody. It's pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I mean recreationally.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
More about a brother on the PGA tool Davante Come on, man,
I don't even think there was a Davonte Woods or something.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Up in here. All right, we have Eddie. That's a
little bit later. I jumped to Eddie House. Mike Jones,
who Mike Jones.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
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Speaker 2 (21:09):
Steven Sager, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Appreciated coming to you live from the tire Rack dot
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a trash talking Tuesday, and right now we're Jones joined
by Mike Jones. Mike Jones, Mike Jones, the athletic national
NFL writer. Mike Jones is our guest here in the
eye Couple. Mike Jones, what's up, brother?

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Hey, how you guys doing tonight?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Man, we can't keep up whiplash with all these moves
happening in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
I'm gonna start right here. I can't Daniel Jones to
the Colts. You're not thrilled, Ro, I'm not thrilled about it?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
What is that? Everybody?

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I thought Daniel Jones Jones has proven that he can't play.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Am I missing something?

Speaker 6 (21:48):
But you know this is a copycat league. And so
last year when they saw Sam Darnold resurrect his career,
you know, in a new place. Now everybody's gonna look
and try to do the same thing. So we're going
to see Indianapolis putt Daniel Jones out there compete with
Anthony Richardson, maybe this full light of fire and Anthony
Richardson and get him to prepare and execute the way

(22:12):
they want. Or maybe Daniel Jones in a new place,
different situation, can try to salvage his career. I'm not sold,
but I guess it makes a little bit of sense.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, I'm with you. I am not I'm not sold either.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I mean, everybody can't have the geno Smith Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
As you mentioned Sam Donalds.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
I think right now, Mike I would take Barnaby Jones
over Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I'm just saying, yeah, I'm taking Indiana Jones over somebody.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
All right. Let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
You mentioned Sam donald Rob and I were talking about this,
but now we have JJ. He's gone in Minnesota. Now
JJ McCarthy's there. What do you make of them sticking
with the guy who's not throwing a single pass in
the NFL yet, but saying, hey, you're our guy. Instead
of the guy who had a, you know, a really
good season last year.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
Well, I think that they feel good about what they
have around him. They've all so invest in their offensive
line even further, and I you know, he was probably
going to start for them last year before he got
hurt in the preseason, so they feel good at his
understanding of the offense and what they need to do. Also,

(23:15):
they've got the best wide receiver in the game and
one of the best ever in Justin Jefferson. Talented tight end,
good running game, very good defense. They've got all the
pieces around this young guy. So they feel like, hey,
we just can roll with this guy. He understands he's
sat on, you know, in all the meetings, and mentally

(23:36):
he understands everything. So it's just a matter of getting
it all to catch up physically. And they feel good
about where he was and that he's going to pick
up very well when he gets back out there.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Mike, I got to tell you the Sam Darnold, the
Vikings not being being out on him and apparently other
teams where he's going to Seattle where they got rid
of their two best receivers and the best offensive lineman.
He's going there and place that looks like they're trying
to tank or something. But I will say this, those
last two games made people afraid of Sam Donald. I

(24:08):
believe in that he turned into a pumpkin when the
when the stage got big.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Do you think that that had a lot.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
To do with people not really buying into a guy
who had thirty five touchdowns in what almost four thousand
yards right more?

Speaker 7 (24:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (24:23):
Yeah, Well obviously, look, when you get to the playoffs,
a lot of the first time people except for Jade
and Daniels, really struggled in their first playoff appearance last
last last off season, last postseason. So it wasn't surprised
to see him struggle a little bit. But I think yes,
the drastic struggles that we saw did probably give people

(24:43):
some pause. And I think that's when you know, Minnesota
felt like, Okay, hey, we can roll with another guy.
We've got good things around him, we need better, and
so they're willing to roll that dice. You know, we'll
see what happens. Seattle. I don't understand what they're doing.
If you were going to get Sam Darnald, you have

(25:03):
to look at what he was working with.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Right last year, and despite no sense Mike none.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
Not only did you go get this guy who was
throwing to one of the best receivers in the game
and had all the support, Now you stripped down the team,
so he does not have any of the proven wide
receivers and he doesn't have a good offensive line. The
Seahawks offensive line gave up the third highest number of

(25:29):
sacks last year, and now you're expecting Sam Donald to
be able to work some magic without any support. Doesn't
make any sense at all. Yes, he had familiarity with
Clint Kubiak from when they were in I mean San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Kubiak ain't out there at though.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Kubiak is their offensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, but I'm hanging out on the field right.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
No, that's what I'm saying. He's got familiarity with the system.
But if he doesn't have the support and the weapons
to go to, you're not going to be getting what
you got out of him last year.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Mike Joe was our guests The Athletic, a national NFL
writer with the Acaple. Robin Kevin on a trash talking Tuesday,
how about.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
The geno Smith to the Raiders? Another one?

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I get it, Pete Carroll, that was his quarterback in
Seattle when he got run out of town and the
same exact thing.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
But is Gino stop gap?

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Gino was bad last year and I get it the
offensive line, which you brought up, but he had twenty.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
One touchdowns and fifteen picks. It was ugly.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
Yeah, we saw him kind of regrets from what we
had seen from him, you know, the three previous seasons there.
I think though, when you are you know, you're looking
at all the quarterbacks that are out there. This was
not a good quarterback free agency. It's not a deep
quarterback draft class. And so Pete Carroll felt like, look,
I've got to get a veteran first, and we'll see

(26:49):
what happens with the draft. But he went with the
veteran that he trust. It was very telling that Russell
Wilson is a free agent and they went. He went
and traded for Gino Smith instead of getting another veteran
quarterback that he had familiarity with. And so he trust
him and we're gonna see what happens. Again. He's got

(27:09):
a decent offensive line. They've got some young talent on
that offensive line. They had, you know, two of their
first three draft picks where starters On the offensive line,
you got Brock Bauers, who was a star of a
rookie tight end. Jacoby Myers had a thousand receiving yards
catching passes from two really bad quarterbacks. So we'll see

(27:29):
it's not going to be you know, they're not going
to challenge the Chiefs or even you know, Denver or
Sandy or you know, the Chargers for the division. But
he'll be a decent bridge at the very least, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
I want to ask you about the Steelers, what the
heck are they do? And they they Russell Wilson to him,
they let Justin Fields go. A lot of you know,
there was a lot of people who thought maybe he'd
stick around Aaron Rodgers. Is he having conversations with him?
Like what are the Steelers doing? And whatever they end
up doing if it is Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson,
which we don't expect it to be. But will they
have went backwards? Would they have regressed?

Speaker 6 (28:07):
I do believe that they are regressing. I thought that
the move to make was to let Wilson go and
keep Justin Field showed flashes and then another year of
familiarity and tweak that offense to really tailor it to
him and his strength, and you have a talented prospect

(28:29):
for the long term. It's not a one year roll
of the dice on it has been. I mean Russell,
I mean Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. You knew what
you had with Russell Wilson and it was lacking. Aaron
Rodgers showed us last year with the Jets that he
is not what he was anymore. So I don't understand

(28:49):
why they would pursue this once again. Well, they're trying
to hope that he can turn back the clock and
they have, you know, too talented. Why receivers for him?
But I just think, and I talked to a number
of talent evaluators who said me that they felt like
there was not really a good fit for Aaron Rodgers.

(29:10):
That made sense, And so I don't understand the story.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Well, can it be that Mike Tomlin hasn't won a
playoff game?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Is it nine years now or not?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
I mean, at some point doesn't he need to win
a playoff game? And I think that that's why he's
not that apt to break somebody in or get a
quarterback to try to you know, that's why they went
and got Russell Wilson and put him in, and they.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Would be more apt to have Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
As bad as he was with the Jets, he had
the same exact stats as Patrick Mahomes, I mean the
same stats. Patrick Mahomes fifteen and two and Aaron Rodgers
was five and twelve.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
Yeah, but Patrick Mahomes had game winning drives than Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
I'm just giving you stats though they weren't off, is
what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
Talking about the stats. Who we're talking about, Hey, this
guy can keep us in games. Rodgers' ability to keep
a team in game is no longer anymore. He needs
a lot of help around him now. And so I
don't think that this makes the Steelers. I mean, look,
so Aaron Rodgers is your quarterback and old, a forty
two year old Aaron Rodgers make you better than Lamar

(30:17):
Jackson and the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
No, but don't.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
But also, justin field, what he's been we was with
the Bears for years. Last year, look at the numbers
he can't throw the football. They were like thirtieth when
it comes to passing the football. We know the other stuff.
You're not a dual threat if you can't throw. I mean,
you're right. I mean they're watching him in practice every day.

(30:40):
They have every reason to want him to succeed, right,
every reason. He's young, he's athletic, he can run with
the football.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
They can't.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Everybody can't be wrong. The Bears immediately moved on from him, right.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
They had a chance.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
But look, wait, wait wait, wait wait wait, you can't
bag Look at the Bears. Though they had Matt Uberflus,
he had Luke Getsy, who's the worst offensive court.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
No, but my point is that if they really believed
there was something there, they could have moved down in
the draft and gotten other players to help the team
if they really believed in him. The Steelers, he was
four and two. He got off to a good start, right,
ten touchdowns, one interception. That still wasn't good enough for
them because they looked at the passing part of the game.

(31:22):
As soon as Russell Wilson came in, they went on
a five game winning streak and they were throwing the
ball all over the field. That's all I'm saying, Mike.
What I'm trying to say that there's a reason and
then the only place that Justin Fields can go is
to the Jets for forty million dollars and it looks
like they're setting up that team to be in a
quarterback sweep stakes as well next year.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Like, is that the future the Jets?

Speaker 6 (31:48):
I mean, I don't know if I mean for for
also for Justin Fields. The constant change is something that's
donned his development. I just feel like another year in
the same system could have led to more growth for
him and maybe a better payoff for the Steelers than
Aaron Rodgers, who really is done.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, I felt the same way.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Rob knows that we've talked about that all throughout the
season and just cater your offense around him like other
teams have done with those types of quarterback. But what's
the point of going backwards? It's not it's not even
that he's going to be Lamar. Is that you want
to see what you got.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Foreign to But everybody keeps moving off from him, is
what I'm trying to keep being wrong. It ain't one guy,
it ain't one coach of one GM. They keep moving
off of them, and they can watching him every day
Mike in practice, it doesn't make sense. And why unless
they don't believe that he's that guy.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Right, Mike is exhausted. I don't think he has anymore. Mike, Mike,
we appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
What you're saying. I hear what you Mike.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Don't worry about We argue about this all the time.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
It knows what I'm talking about, Like there's too many
people watching him for too long.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
I get a to point.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
But I also things can be wrong, and I think
the Steelers have been wrong on quarterback for a decade. Now, Okay,
all right, Mike, thank you so much. Appreciate you. Sheck
ol City on the way how to Rob Fair. We'll
find out to see couple Robin Kelvin on a trash
Talking Tuesday about an hour or so away Fox Sports Radio.

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four Shekel City.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Welcome to Shekel City, the home base for Rob Parker's
daily Dix against the Scrap.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
That's right, last night two and one on the season,
ready alex sixty four and sixty three week.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Five hundred w really good? So now tonight there we go.
Ware who you got.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Clippers minus seven and a half through in New Orleans
taking on the Pelicans, that's the best bet.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
I got the Pistons minus fourteen and a half and
they're right now, right now by thirteen, I'm feeling good
about that. Taking on the Washington General I gotta say,
I mean the Wizards. I'm sorry, did I say generals?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
That was a fourtnite this minus fourteen and half.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Fortunately you talk about a three hundred or one eighty turnaround.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, part of it is the Pistons and part that's.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
What I mean because that was the Pistons last year.
Now Wlizzards is ridiculous. And I got the Milwaukee Bucks.
Are we watching that game?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Right there about minus two and a half.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
They're taking on the Pacers in Indiana.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
And of course these were all on social media prior
to the start of these games. And remember, Calvin, what's that.
I'm not telling you who to bet on. I'm telling
you who I bet on. Yeah, there we go. So
I'm feeling good there you're having. It's a long road
to get back to over five hundred you just.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Brought I wanted to just show some love to somebody
you just brought up. Who you just found out he
passed Junior Bridgeman, who was in Milwaukee Buck played in
the NBA for years. He was a part of the
Kareem trade, part of the Kareem trade. This is interesting.
I've always knew of him. Obviously it was before my
day on the hoops tip, but I knew he was
a player. I always knew of them about him, because

(36:02):
he ended up becoming an amazing businessman.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
He bought a lot of franchise.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I bought a lot of Wendy's and a bunch of
franchise and ended up making over, you know, networth over
six hundred million dollars. But he just passed today, Yeah, today,
And you were kind of telling me about that, and
it's one of those seventy one seventy one years old
at twelve year NBA career.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
But that was like the least of it. You know.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
He ended up, like we said, becoming a big time,
big time businessman.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
And you love to hear about that. He was a
six man in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
But you love to hear about guys who you know,
able to kind of have a even better second act,
you know.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
What I mean, because a lot of guys don't. Yeah,
so hard.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
I set up here with Kerrie Rhoads and we talked
about a little bit on air, but especially off the air,
how difficult that is.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
People forget you and I make note of it.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
There's Lebron, There's Steph there's Otani, there's Judge Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Most of these guys make a couple of meal.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
They're out the league at twenty seven, you made seven
meal but between lawyers, agents and you just being young
and dumb.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Spend a little month. He bought mama house and all
that at a job.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
You look up, you need a job at twenty eight,
and nothing's really going to match that lifestyle that you're
creating for yourself. Right, you bought this big house, you
got this car. You know, he went on these fancy
trips and you thought that was life for the next
fifteen years. Now you're twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty and
who's paying you that much? You know what job is
paying your half mil mill milli and a half?

Speaker 8 (37:22):
What?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
What's the is it?

Speaker 4 (37:25):
NFL players that like ninety percent seventy five percent.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Perry talked about bank within five years of leaving the NFL.
You just think about it.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
For all the kirkcussions has made all the money and
all these guys Patrick Mahomes, most guys only play three
and a half you and they're not And think how
many rounds there are, right, it's not. Everybody's not a
first rounder. So you're a fifth, sixth round pick, played
three four years.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
In the league.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
You made four mil. Maybe taxes agent boom, boom boom.
Like I said, now you're twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
What you doing?

Speaker 7 (38:01):
You know?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
And it's hard. You know we five may, five.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Million, ten million, twenty mine. I will never be all right.
You know you have the luxury of you know, you've
had how long is your career? Thirty nine years, it'll
be forty years soon, forty year career. Right, You've made
good choices, you've made money, You've been able to have
a long jef. You can go another five, six, ten
years if you wanted to. I mean you and I
hear and laugh as the people that are ninety still
doing this, they can't do that. I bring up you,

(38:27):
gotta bring up on Bob Ryan. I'm just say, man,
see there you go. I didn't put no names next
to it, all right, I didn't do that. Rest in peace,
Junior Bridgeman. We just want to show some love. Fox
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