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March 20, 2025 38 mins

Rob and Kelvin tell us which college basketball coach will have his legacy changed the most with a national championship (Kelvin Sampson, John Calipari, Tom Izzo and Bruce Pearl). Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Antonio Daniels swings by to discuss the New York Knicks identity change, what’s currently ailing the Milwaukee Bucks, which team is most likely to come out of the wild Western Conference and much more! Finally, the Odd Couple Crew debate luncheon coupons in this week’s edition of Shop Talk.

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NBA analysts and don't forget coming up in about forty
five minutes. It's shop talk and we'll talk about lunch
today and my lunch tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
All right, Well you already know lunch tomorrow. Yeah, I
gotta find this. That's the whole thing is.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, I know today's lunch where I went and had
a great meal, and tomorrow I'm gonna go and have
a great meal.

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You know, I'm excited about food, even though I can't
really eat how I want to eat right now. So
we've been having some great conversations about the tournament, and
there's some thoughts about some coaches.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
We kind of talked about it the other day, so.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Rob g some coaches out there who could use a
w old school right old school, God.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's right now.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Obviously, the NCAA Tournament is a big proving ground for everybody, coaches, players,
all the way down the list. This is where legends
are made in the tournament. You know, the name a
Leif for Roch namesh because of the tournament, right, not
because nobody follows his college basketball career. Right. Well, for
this conversation that we've identified four coaches in this tournament

(02:16):
that I'm not gonna say legacies are on the line,
but they definitely have something to prove. Whether it's because
of transgressions at other schools. Shout out to Houston's Calvin
Sampson and UH Auburn's Bruce Pearl. Whether it's not winning
as much as you probably should, shout out to Michigan

(02:36):
State head coach Tom Izzoh did you mention that?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Wait? Why would you take Rob Stuns or both?

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Shout out to coach cal who only has one national championship.
You can't coach Calhead and himself has had wins vacated
at two different schools due to, you know, allegations. So, guys,
of those four coaches, is O Pearl, cal Pari Sampson,
which one do you think would have their reputation or

(03:06):
their legacy bolstered the most by winning a national championship
in this tournament.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I totally get everybody you just named, but it's easy
for me, and it ain't because his name is mine.
It's Kelvin Sampson for me. A couple of reasons why
when you break down the other guys. John Calipari is
known for multiple things, right, his look, his style, infamy.
He's running around with Drake, He's running around with rappers.
He has a championship, And I do think part of

(03:33):
Cow's legacy is the not winning, but having super loaded teams.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Right, you got all.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
These teams with John Waller, DeMarcus Cousin, Eric Bledsoe, you
got teams all the way back to Memphis with Derrick
Rose and CDR. You got teams when you were at
UMass with Marcus Camby. So I think part of Cow's
appeal is the teams. He's got documentaries. So I kind
of think he's cool figuraily literally like, I think he's cool,
and I think people like him, and part of the
infamy of all the bad and the good makes his stories.

(04:00):
I think callus kind of straight on that. I think
his legacy is fine. I go to Bruce Pearl. You
could say he's in the same category of Kelvin Simpson,
This Sampson, this would help bolster the story pig time.
But yeah, I think he would be my second choice
in this in these four selections. But it's Kelvin Simpson
because been a really good coach, really solid coach, good

(04:20):
with programs.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Making some bad phone calls got him in trouble. Yeah,
bout seventeen phone calls that he wasn't supposed to have
inappropriate times. Calling kids. Is not the season where you
can call him for recruitment.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Which, by the way, I think we'll all kind of
fade away as we get further and further away from this,
We're gonna look back and laugh, you know, I do.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think we're gonna be I always want to forget everything.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I don't believe that there's a history, there's a context
every time.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't disagree those transgression that time you couldn't do it.
It's the same way people are looking at things like
Reggie Bush.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Like okay, they got his mom my hospital, but he
still when you do it, when you do his obituary.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
And I'm not trying to get Reggie Bush to be dead.
Way that story will his hedsman was taken away and then.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Returned, right, But I mean your turns what I'm saying,
I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying Kelvin Samson will be like,
all right, that was kind of looking back. That was
a bit harsh for the transgression. And I understand the time,
the rules of the era. But I think we'll look back.
I think we'll start looking back in the NCAAA and
saying y'all are wildin similarly, how your sport baseball, with
the voters starting to get a little more lenient with
guys with steroids, or at least alleged steroids, because they

(05:24):
started to realize how rampant it was the league knew.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Maybe we'll give a little grace.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
But I think Kelvin Samson needs is to bost of
the resume, to put himself in the Izzo conversation and
the Calipari saying these other guys y'all mentioned who had
a bunch of wins and a bunch of good teams
but only have one, Well, at least put me in there.
So the easy answer for me is Kelvin Sampson. This
can do good for his legacy, for his name, and
I think it's Kelvin Sampson.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Where is Tom Izzo?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
He's been no bunch of finals, He's won one bunch
of final fours. He's one of the best names in
thirty years of the last thirty thirty five years of
the sport. Cali Peri as well, and I think the
easy answer for me is Kelvin Sampson.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
I think it's Tom Mizzo. I really do.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
And I know he's already in the Basketball Hall of
Fame and what I mean, no, no, I really don't
and he knows it. If you ever listen to any interview,
he would give up everything to win another chance. I
don't disagree he would because he understands that ultimately, like
he hasn't really punched his ticket.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
He won one.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
I say this all the time. Anybody can win once.
When you start to win multiple and you're you know
what I mean, like different kids, different situations, different scenarios,
you look at differently, you really are. And I'm not
saying that when in one place is the worst thing
in the world, but I'm saying it speaks volumes and
to me, when I think of Tom Mizzo and that

(06:46):
twenty five years have passed, I think of a coach
who was stubborn for a long time, who thought it
was about him, not about the kids, because he didn't
do the one and done that.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
He took a long time. Even Coach k gave in.
He was like, all right, go get me, Kyrie. He
played eleven games. I'm good with that.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Just what I'm saying because you got what happens when
you don't adjust, You become a dinosaur. And that's why
I think for tom Izzo, there are those bad moments
when they lost to Butler, you know, and and for
a long time I was saying, you know, uh, Tom
Mizzo and Tubby Smith. Now he's been out of basketball

(07:30):
for a minute, but Tubby Smith and Tom Izzo, uh,
they had very similar records. They both won one championship
and they're winning now. What tom Izzo has is the
final four.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
That's where I was gonna know. But here's my point.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
His record in finals fours are not good, and his
records against the best teams is terrible. Go look at
tom Izzo's record when he plays the Dukes the North Coast,
you know what I mean, the blue Bloods, he doesn't win.
He even lost to a Butler in a final four,
like with a chance to get to the championship game. Right,
So there's enough of those missteps and losses in big games.

(08:09):
That's why I think tom Izzo needs to win again.
And it would be a big gap twenty five years,
but I think he would rest easier and people would
feel better. The worst thing that can happen is for
tom Izzo to coach another four or five years and
not win. Look at jim behon fifty two years at

(08:29):
Syracuse with one title, and if it wasn't mellow. And
now when you just say that out loud, does that
sound like that's anything special? I'm serious.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
No, I mean.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Winning a title is huge. I don't ever want to
belittle that because but fifty two years is crazy. But
this is where I go back and where I don't
I don't push back on the tom Izzo. We don't
actually talk about the championship game. We kind of say
final fours like that's a big deal. In the sport,
final fours is a huge Like we'll say here is
such and such, here's Jimmy can't played in the final four?

(09:04):
Dud know, two final fours like that's a big deal.
So him that have eight for him to be the
most wins in an entire big ten, like that's huge.
And I think again, he's been to a couple of
national titles. Don't forget that he lost money, but he's
been new couple. Jack was over in five minutes. But
I'm saying so.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
For him.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
The best selling I'm not actually disagreeing that.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
You can say he's slightly underwhelming, but I don't think
he needs just to bolter his legacy. I think tom
Izo is a made man. I don't know if there's
three active coaches who are bigger than him, you.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
But he's living off of something. To me, when you
really talk about getting to the Final four and all that,
what are you winning three games?

Speaker 6 (09:46):
Right?

Speaker 4 (09:48):
I'm just saying that when you get there, it's it's
cool to get there. Like I always bring up the
Buffalo Bills. He hasn't done well in the final four.
By getting there is nice? When they lost who was
that school they lost to uh in the first round
a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Ago, you know what I'm saying, Like that was one
of the one of the uh uh Why Bruce Pearl
or Kelvin Sampson who have never won a title, you know,
who have been one of the especials already in the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
And I think even he feels a little weird that,
you know what I mean, Like like really, like, okay,
I'm in the Hall of Fame, but.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Did he really did he really?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
If you're putting coach k to me, coach K and
Tom Mizzell are not on the same level. And it
ain't just a matter of coach K won what four championships,
four or five?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
You know what I mean? Like like and only as one.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
I'm just saying when I think of Izzo, I think
of underwhelming that that they didn't.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Do as much as they should have.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
They got to the final four, they were a step
away from winning, and his record in the final four
isn't good. And I don't have the numbers in front
of me, but when they played that game against North Carolina,
it was a North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
At Ford Field.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
I remember people telling me, oh yeah, he got annihilated.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Annihilating.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
But this is my point, going back to Kelvin Samson.
You could argue even Bruce pearl is I'm in the
company now right because if Kelvin Sam's still relatively young,
meaning he could coach another ten fifteen years if he
gets one, Matt goes great for recruiting.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Now he's clocks ticking no faster, is what I'm saying.
Is Tom Mizzo's clout.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
And that's where japs where will disagree on the presentation
of the question. You know most who needs it to
bolster their legacy. To me, Kelvin Samson can get in
the mix with the win. Right now, I'm through. I'd
have been through the sanctions. I've been to a final
four before, but now I got a title I won.
Maybe that hell's recruiting now, Maybe I need to get
to two more final fours like this.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Bruce Pearl again, you can maybe argue him as well.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Tom Mizzo has a cork chop and a side salad
away from you know what I mean, that side sad
it'll save him.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
But I just yeah, I just think tom Izzo is
a made man. And the last point I make in
favor of tom Izzo is that there was that run
where if you played all four years with him, you
were gonna make a final four.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Remember he had like a like a like two and
four in final fours.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
I just just celebrating two and six in final fours
that I'm saying he can't get that great.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I think tom Iszo won't get boaster. I think he
is what he is. Kelvin Samson can if he wins
another title would be unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
That.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Let me tell you something, I wouldn't doubt that. Tomzzel
wouldn't retire right after Ye I'm.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Dead, SERI coach for so long.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Kelvin Sampson needs is to get in the club of
the elite or one of you know, some of the
best coaches of the last thirty thirty five years.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I think he needs it.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
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Pearl with John Calipari, which ones legacy will be both
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All right, we gave you four coaches we were asking
you had isz O Calipari, Bruce Pearl, Kelvin Sampson, who
could use a bolster a boost in their persona, their
legacy with the win. I say it's Elvin Sampson. You
said it was Tom Izzo. What say the people?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Tony in North Carolina? You're in the eye couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tony?

Speaker 8 (15:08):
Hey, Hey, y'all.

Speaker 9 (15:09):
I love y'all.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
I live in Boise Iadaho.

Speaker 9 (15:12):
Twenty five years in the Army and.

Speaker 8 (15:14):
Now I live in Boise, Odaho. But I'm gonna tell
you right now is Calvin Sampson hands down, and I'm
gonna tell you why. How many indigenous coaches have won
a national title.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
That's a great point.

Speaker 9 (15:29):
It's gonna be.

Speaker 8 (15:29):
Calvin Sampson here is from the Lumpee tribe in Lumberton,
North Carolina. Former point guard for Cambrook State Junior College.
Calvin Sampson, he needs to get his roses. My plan
has done so much for college basketball. He needs to
get his roses.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
There you go, Tony and yep, we had two Tony's on.
Appreciate you so much. Drew in New Jersey, you're in
the eye couple Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
What's up Drew.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
Hey, guys hemming, Yes, how.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Are you buddy good?

Speaker 6 (16:02):
Yes, Jodan, I think definitely for tom Isa that would
be a huge thing for him. But the one thing
I will say is do you think it's Do you
hold the same weight for single titles for athletes compared
to coaches? So if an athlete wins.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
One, no, because no, here's the difference. Tom Izzo has
been there for like if a player played in school
for like like thirty five years, then yeah, I would
hold it against him. Okay, he's been there thirty thirty something,
I don't know how long, maybe forty years. Uh, when
you look at Jim Beheim and Syracuse fifty two years,
you think that was great he won one championship.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm trying to
get to see if you feel the same way for
you know, players versus coaches.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
No, well, I think that just to kind of think coaching,
you get more cracks at it.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Right, you go to college, you get four cracks. You're
in the league. Most people get eight to ten years
in league, most people mostly Do you think.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
That college do you think that any of college title
is harder to do? College basket than any other sports.
He had to play sixty something.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
No, I don't actually because if I get that's why
we said. You could argue Calipari and Will have been underwhelming.
They've had cracks at it with good teams.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
They've had nothing, but like Coli, that's right, can't coach.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
How do you only win one championship? One team and
one team like six dudes six in the first round,
first round right sick?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
They had Eric Bledsoe cousins, John Wall, it was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
That team was load. They did not win a championship.
Gil Chris on that team too, they had like six dudes.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
All go, well, you know the team that actually did
win with coach cow was arguing talented team, right, it
was Anthony Davis to.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Exactly, and that team won. Yeah, that's the thing that
de Marcus causes. John Wall. The team with six first
round how do you not win a college basketball championship
had Derek Rose.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
You're in the championship and you're losing overtime to Mario
Thomas three. So yeah, the point being, you get when
you're become great, you get cracks at it because you're
gonna Mores are.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Coming right, That's what I'm saying, don't I don't think
it's the same with a player might be in a
situation way shorter. Tony in North Carolina. You're on the
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tony?

Speaker 9 (18:18):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (18:18):
Thanks, Jole's taking my call.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
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Speaker 10 (18:22):
Listen to the show for over five years now, driving
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so you keep me entertained. And Rob Parker, you gotta
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Speaker 4 (18:36):
You know, hey, Tony, I appreciate that because you know
how much I love baseball and I'm gonna do my best.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
You know it.

Speaker 10 (18:43):
Well, let me tell you about the coaches like the
other Tony from North Carolina.

Speaker 9 (18:49):
I can't.

Speaker 10 (18:49):
I can't hold it against coach Sampson being Carolina native, yep.
But to me it's Bruce Pearl because the four coaches
you just named, Calipari is a Sampson. When we when
the average fan, or at least my opinion, when we
think of good coaches, they come to mind. Ye, Bruce
Pearl is not thought off as a good coach by

(19:11):
the general fans. We just think of him as a
raw rock guy. We don't know what we don't know
what a style is. It seems to be a lot
more uh style than substance.

Speaker 9 (19:21):
To his coach.

Speaker 10 (19:22):
So I think he needs to I think he needs
validation more than the other three.

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Now go, I'm gonna say, oh god, forty two, forty two?

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Speaker 9 (20:40):
Yeah? Yeah? Fifty? Half a century?

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Five?

Speaker 9 (20:44):
Oh? Yesterday?

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Are you celebrating? Because you know when your birthday falls
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bring in my fifty have ripped me and wow, been
to the game yesterday, went out to eat last night.
You know, just you know, just I don't I rather
celebrate her than celebrate myself.

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three days. So it's been great. Nice, great way to
bring in, great way to bring in a half a century.

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We obviously you know we have you and we talk
a lot of NBA. But it is starting March madness.
What's it like, man? Do you for you? You enjoyed
the tournament? You all land you uh, you fell out
a bracket. I used to like it, Antonio, not as much.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
But go ahead, I tell you what.

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You know what you hain't even had to say that.
I could have. I could have guessed that you are you.
You have become set to get up my line by
man Lord have mercy. I watched, I watch right now,
we're watching it right now. But for me, I like
the women's college game now more than I like the men's.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I can understand that the game itself is better. I
can understand that.

Speaker 9 (22:28):
And and the women have more stars. You know the
Juju walkin Hannahidago, you know flos A Johnson, you know
all of these different players that are that are awesome
to watch play so.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Well, well, that's if that's an indictment, think.

Speaker 9 (22:45):
There's I will say this, I don't think there's a
better basketball, any better basketball than the NT double A
tournament because no matter what happens, a lot of times
the best team doesn't win. All they have to do
is be better than you or one or one random night. Yep,
and the season's over. I love that.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Hey, let's go here.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
In the NBA, the New York Nikkelbokers are having some issues.
What's going on there? We know Brunton is hurt, but
it was a problem. Yes, they got some issues that
they've been losing pretty bad. What's happening?

Speaker 9 (23:16):
I mean? The thing is, if I've learned anything here
in New Orleans, it's very difficult to win without the
top player, and it's very difficult to win without the
top players. And the fact of the matter is like
they have changed their identity. Think who the New York's
Knicks was a year ago, right, they were a lockdown
defensive team, right with Julius Randall, with Devin Senzo, along

(23:39):
with the symmetry that those guys had from Delanova. They
made a change. They brought a Karl Anthony Towns and
now he's your starting center. There is a draftic difference
between Karl Anthony Towns being your starting center in New
York defensively and Karl Anthony Town's being a part of
the top defensive team in the league last year where
Rudy Gobert and in that defense, we're really good point

(24:02):
of attack defender's, perimeter defenders. So and I mean, I'm
not the type to sit here and say, like, you know,
I don't understand, Like, for the life of me, I've
watched the Knicks play all year and they are big.
Them is huge on on drop coverage and on drop coverage,

(24:23):
and I know, as a former NBA player as a guard,
I love to see that. It's more than anything else,
and the Knicks That's why Mamu did what he did
last night to them. When you're sitting for Anthony County
and drop everags you allowing whoever has the ball, so
many different options, and these deep guards and some of

(24:44):
these bigs are simply popping and picking them.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Apart a d What is going on in Milwaukee? We
just reading articles. They had to have a meeting Aid
Giannis and of course Doc Rivers and Dame, and they're
trying to figure out.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
What we can do and can eat. And Dame basically
caught it out in the press conference recently said, you know,
we're not tough enough. We're not initiating, we're not hitting
hard enough on screens, we're not cutting hard enough. What
on paper, this should be a really good team.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
But they what she watched you, they'll have a good
week stretch in a bad two week stress.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (25:17):
We spent our three hours show yesterday. We spent an
hour and a half talking about the Milwaukee Bucks and
the issues that they have. Offensively, if you watch them
play against the Golden State Warriors, they literally took did
not score basket the last four minutes of the game.
When you have Dame and Giannis, that's very, very hard
to do. Their offensive struggles have been there all year,

(25:39):
and the issue becomes not how you play against mediocre
teams in below, it's how you play against the upper
echelon of the league, and they struggle.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Is but one of the.

Speaker 9 (25:50):
Worst teams in the league during front times?

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Is that coaching?

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Though?

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Is that coaching? Or they got the players?

Speaker 9 (25:56):
Is this coaching the players? And I feel like this,
this meeting with Doc Rivers that he had with Damien
Giannis as far overdue. I feel like it's because I
don't feel like coasing should be a dictatorship. I feel
like it should be a collaboration, like we should talk
about this all right, how do I put you guys
in a position to be successful? Where do you like
the ball? Let's discuss it together. I feel like a

(26:19):
lot of times what coaches do is they just go
in there and think, well, I got two really good players.
And the thing that I've seen coasing is really hard
if you have good players. It's really tough to coach talent,
and it's really hard to win without it.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
No, I just when I look at that team, I
don't know. Obviously, the Cavaliers in the East, Boston and
the East. Are we looking at really anybody else other
than those two and Ken the Cavaliers. It's hard to
bet against the Celtics. But could it be the Cavaliers?
Could they make it all the way?

Speaker 9 (26:54):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (26:54):
No?

Speaker 9 (26:54):
One more quick thing about the Milwaukee Bucks, yep. You
also can't continue to allow teams to put perimeter guys
on brook Low Pizzo at that and he shoots all three.
So what teams are doing is they are putting guards
and swingmen on brook Low Paz and the Milwaukee Bucks
do nothing to make them pay. But about the Cleveland Cavaliers,

(27:16):
I don't think there's any team right now that is
going to beat the Boston Celtic four times? How does
don't see it? They make it? Can they make it competitive? Yes?
But to beat that Boston Celtics team four times in
the series. Again, if it's not the NCAA Tournament, it's
not about any given Sunday or random Tuesday night. You
have to beat this team four out of seven times,

(27:38):
and I don't think there's a team in the Eastern
Conference that can do that.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
What about on the Western Conference? I mean you got
the thunder who are incredible. You have the by the way,
the Rockets, I mean, nobody talks about them, but they're
sitting there currently.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Second what they.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Win like eight or nine in a row.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Or last ten. Yeah, they've been looking good.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
So but when you say nobody can beat the Celtics,
you're talking about Justice or in.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
The whole league.

Speaker 9 (27:58):
Yeah, well, we were about the conference and the big
heard as high as I am on the Oklahoma City Thunder,
they're gonna have to prove it to me that second
we came April and beyond.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
No, there's there's definitely, I mean, at no doubt.

Speaker 9 (28:14):
Here's the thing about here's the thing about the West.
The teams that are at the top of the West
don't scare anybody, which like if you had to ask
certain teams, I don't think they would be scared of Houston.
I don't think they would in Oklahoma City. So the
Lakers won't be scared of any either one of those teams.
I don't even think Denver will be scared of any

(28:34):
one of those teams. Hold and healthy, that's the that's
the that's the big thing in Boston. I don't think
there is in the Eastern Conference. I don't think there's
another team out there that was looking at Boston, Like,
you know what, Man, if we get Boston first round,
we're okay with that. You know, I don't. I don't
have that same thought about the.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
West and Tonio, I'm gonna say this, and you just
made the point about the teams that are at the
top and not being afraid of them. I'm I'm star
to lean towards Denver making it out of the West.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Crazy. I'm serious about that.

Speaker 9 (29:05):
I'm not mad at you for.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
That, Okay, I really, I'm really start I'm really starting
to think about that, like who they might match up
with and where the Joker could take advantage of and
even if they played Kers, No, why Rock because.

Speaker 9 (29:19):
You don't you don't fear Oklahoma City or Houston either.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yeah, I'm not feeling them like like for sure they're
going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
I'm not.

Speaker 9 (29:26):
Yeah, and that's the for me. I Dember, I hear you.
And the only reason that we make that argument and
are comfortable making that is because of the Kola Ye.
But the question that I.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Ask you is, right now, how hell we don't know?

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, he's missing two games in a row, now he's missing.

Speaker 9 (29:49):
Yeah, I think this is his third game in a
row that he's missing because I think he's rude out today.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah he is.

Speaker 9 (29:55):
And this is this has been an issue with Denver
all year where it's been Aaron Gordon's been out. I'm
an aerona Jamal Murray goes out.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
No, they gotta be healthy. If they're not healthy, I'm
not feeling the thing about Okay.

Speaker 9 (30:08):
See though, man, they check a lot of boxes. They
check a lot of boxes defensively. Now they're dressed. Last
year as far as size was concerned by bringing in
Isaiah Hartenstein, they check a lot of physical boxes. The
one that they don't check in my opinion, and this
is one of the reasons I think that teams don't
fear them. It's the experience together in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Right, Yeah, all right, there you have it a d man.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
We appreciate you. Happy belated big Yeah, I was cutting
eight years off.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Of your life.

Speaker 9 (30:38):
Man, Do you take that as a compliment?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
There's so you are you kidding me? I'm shocked?

Speaker 9 (30:43):
Yeah, take that.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
That's like most people don't think I'm forty four, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, ad ad, I'll not to respond to that. Thank you, man.
We appreciate you have.

Speaker 9 (30:53):
A good one.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
All right, Shop Talk all the way. Shop Talks with
Rob g is cooking up. It is yakable. Robin Calvin
on a March Maddness but also a TV things on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
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Speaker 3 (31:07):
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the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio
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listen live.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Steve Austin will be that man better than he was before,
songer faster. How much would this six million dollar man
be worth today? Right?

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You do the math? Probably what six billion? Six million
dollar man?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Some six billion something like that. Yeah, this is yeah,
he definitely. This is probably what seventy three fourths or
something like that, maybe seventies seventy. Yeah, he definitely.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
That was That was a big show talk without a doubt.
It's one of those ones. I think they've kind of
redone a few times.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
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Speaker 3 (32:24):
He's never been a bump shop. You know that.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Ain't nobody you were talking about whoever, whatever, whatever you
want to in the boss up.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Why you know it's shop talk.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
That's a terrible comparison. Alex said, it is a shop.
I was trying to look. I didn't see a mattress
on his back.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Oh my gosh, you ain't making it sixty, bro, You
are not making He's not making it a six o'clock.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
He's not making it to six o'clock. All right, it
is shot talk. I secon we're talking about something happened
outside of the world of sports.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Hey, rather than me set the table, as Rob likes
to say, Rob told me something today during our pre
show me. They had me flabbergasted about his plans for
lunch both earlier today and tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (33:06):
Rob.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
That's what you're doing, all right.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
This is not an endorsement or a co as well
be but I'm just saying, okay, So Fridays TGI have
Fridays was first open in nineteen sixty five. So all
month they're charging you could have two entrees for nineteen
dollars and sixty five cents. So I had two lunches,

(33:28):
one with a former student of mine and tomorrow with
a mentee. So I was like trying to figure out, well,
you know, we go out to lunch, grab something to eat,
and so I took one today and I said, if
you just picked from.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
This menu, I'll pay for lunch. Wait your favorite, wait,
real quick ride all just side. Look at me, mind?
Did you really say that? Yes?

Speaker 4 (33:52):
I said, if you pay if you picked from this menu,
the reduced because it's not the whole menu, you know,
Oh row, I'll pay for lunch.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
And they, hey, Rob, don't break the bank. Nineteen sixty five.
What what what's doing? Get tomorrow too?

Speaker 4 (34:10):
And tomorrow to at the same restaurant with another You're
you're amazing now?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
My thing is this? What's wrong with a deal? Like
it's your good meal? It's not like they they got
what they want. It wasn't like, no, you gotta get go.
What was one of the prefixed menu? Nineteen sixty five?
Eat lunch.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I'm not mad at the price. That is a great price.
It's great, but I'm mad that you actually say.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
You on your own. If you go on this side
of the menu, you're on your own. Twenty two year
old struggling to find their way. You on your own.
If you don't go on inside of the menu, you
gotta play. I drive off in. When I drive off in,
I don't call you out am, I am mama, sugar.

Speaker 9 (34:53):
Wait.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Let me see what shoes you have on you that
want Travis Scott's while you told them to pick on
the nineteen sixty five menu.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
It would be so good in his in his convertible.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Have me look at it. Let me look at me.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Make sure you're having any Gucci gear on today? Make
sure you stay on this side.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
How can you take your grill out? Manti? Where are
you crazy?

Speaker 7 (35:15):
If you would have said that to me, I would
have purposely ordered not from that MANU why?

Speaker 2 (35:20):
And I know I would have had to pay for it.
But I feel like you should.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Just let it happen organically. I don't want to make
any mistakes on what's going down.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
That man say mistake, Alex Rob, you know what I'm
with you, Okay, that's not the end of the world.
With still treating you to lunch.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
I'm getting a deal.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
What's the worst part.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
About it, Rob, because you know what you also told
me when you went to New York for a party,
you went and got the stuff you wanted to eat.
I did ask for certain things because I asked you.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
They asked me what like for the party.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
They're going to this sho you want, and I told
them what I wanted, and people are like, that's so
you asked for a Hebrew National hot talk.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I said that you asked me what I wanted at
the barbecue, Rob G.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Rob G wants a deal, so I love deals, Rob Parker.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
The fact that you thought of this first bothers.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Me because if I had known that TGI Fridays had
a two for nineteen sixteen sixty five and you could
go more than once with it, I would have went
every day this week and took the missus.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I made it date night part thing. I got a
house full of people nineteen sixty more and soon on
the rest of the month through March. So I'm gonna
go tomorrow afternoon for lunch. And I ordered something else
right today you saw it. I had a burger with
no bun.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Today they got ripped, they got chicken strips, burgers, chicken
caesar salad. So there's like a nice five different dishes
you could get.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
All right, we're pulling up.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
And then you can go four or five different times
and get something different each time.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Oh yeah, remember.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
And then the best part about it was I realized
I had a gift card too, so I didn't have
to pay any cash for anything today.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
It was beautiful, rob. Can you shoot them an idea
I have for them? Okay, you should tell them, like
every time they answer the phone, they should say, TGI Fridays,
how can we get you the weekend?

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Well, first of all, why would you say it on
the air. You're gonna Yeah, they're gonna steal it. I
know you got you gotta record it. Yeah, make sure
you get that. I'm a Ford deal, you know for
a deal.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
We know that to the point. Yeah, I gotta talk
to you. I'm gonna talk to my agent about something.
I'm gonna pitch you something I'm serious too, because this
has gone too far, the amount of thought you put
into this, we might as well make some money off it,
not save money.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Let's make some money. Let me be your agent. I
think it can't be any worse than the plant's idea. No,
that was the greatest genius. That genius you got like fifteen.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
No, we wanted to do edible pennies, Yes, right for
for people who are vegan.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Don't call them plantis.

Speaker 7 (37:51):
Plant based panties. Don't need to take them off plantyse
that's her slogan.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
What plant these go? Get planning eco friendly you tea.
Somebody took that, by the way, they ran with it.
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