March 21, 2025 • 32 mins
Rob and Kelvin discuss whether or not Cooper Flagg being white will matter as his basketball career goes on, argue over how impressive Bronny James’ 17-point performance against the Milwaukee Bucks really was and take Micah Parsons to task for his public pocket-watching of Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Tee Higgins.
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Speaker 4 (00:28):
That's right, Cooper Flag, who missed the entire ace or
most of the accs.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It used to be a woman and Steve knows this
on Uh what was that?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
What was that show? Her name was Fanny Flag. I
want to take match game. Fanny Flag. Okay, Cooper Flag.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I'm sure there's like thirty five people who care about
that reference.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Sorry, Fanny Flight. Anyways, Cooper Flag was nursing Ank Lagery.
We didn't know if he was gonna play in today's
game until probably about Thursday yesterday week was confirmed and
apparently didn't really need him because he played I don't
think to two minutes, had fourteen seven rebounds for SIS,
but again they won by forty four and even still,
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the expectation is whether he's fully healthy or not. Duke
is going to go deep in this tournament, and Cooper
Flag is going to continue to be the marquee player
on the marquee team in college basketball. In fact, earlier
this week, Jay Williams went on First Take with friend
of the show Steve A.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Don't care Stephen. We call him Steve. We call him Steve.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
We go way back, We go way back with Steve,
and Jay Williams was asked what he thinks would be
the best storyline for this tournament, and of course he
says Duke winning the national championship because it's Ducal lump.
But that wasn't the reason why. His reason had more
to do with Cooper Flagg himself.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Take a listen, Cooper Flag.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Now there are pictures of him in college basketball with
his face and the American flag behind it. Everything happened
in our country right now, right, But what it means
to be America?
Speaker 7 (02:01):
America?
Speaker 8 (02:01):
First, Okay, he's from Maine. He's not like from one
of these cities.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
You know, He's from Maine.
Speaker 8 (02:09):
Okay, representing the bigger grand stage of the country. He's
won in high school if he wins at dude, Now,
I hate these comparisons, but you know, people naturally do
it see to day you know where I'm going to
Larry Bird.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
I'm like, he don't play nothing like Larry Bird. This
game is actually more like Polo Benko.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
But certain people do things like this.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
So if wins and Cooper Flag wins, it becomes way
bigger than just basketball, and then it becomes could he
be the face of the league moving forward?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Go ahead? Because I think that. I just think it's
a big stretch.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean, there's so many ifs, this, that and the
other thing, and it's not just without saying it.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I don't even know why you would even.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Approach it as he's saying, because Cooper Flag is white,
and then that would be the reason why he would
be the face of the NBA. Is that what he
was trying to say without saying it?
Speaker 9 (03:03):
Yeah, I think he was trying to add to the
kind of the current temperature of the culture.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Right, But he didn't say that.
Speaker 9 (03:12):
Yeah, he alluded to the flag, the American flag. Okay,
but that's all he said.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And I don't know, Maybe I'm reading into it because
European and foreign born players have won the last six MVPs.
Is that what you're talking about or you're just talking
about because he's white.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Because I've been covering sports long enough that I've heard.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
These stories in scenarios, Jerry Cooney, He's gonna the by
heavyweight fighter. I've just heard this over and over and over.
And I lived through the Larry Bird when Larry Bird
first came in the league, and I was there when,
you know when when I remember it very vividly, when
Isaiah and Rodman talked about, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, you know about Larry Bird.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And if you watch the games back then, and I did,
it was I mean, it was all about Larry Bird.
He make a bounce pass and they would act like
no one had ever had a No, it was really bad.
And the other thing too, is you had two wide
announcers doing the game and they were both from Boston,
Dick Stockton and Tommy Heinzen. So it was really bad.
I'm being honest with you, Like how bad it was.
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I just think you can have this set up and
put him behind American flag and all this other stuff,
it still takes. You gotta be able to play. You
got you gotta be able to play at that level.
Otherwise that stuff you just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Do, you know what I mean? Like, no, I just kidnap.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You could, Yeah, I just I think that sounds Oh yeah,
Well if he wins and if he does this and
he dropped it, he on the league, he had thirty
five points and he does that and they win a championship,
then he been standing behind America. If I had really okay,
like like there's a lot of stuff that has to
go down, he could be a really good player.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Right, Christian Lady was one of the great he is.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
College basketball players I saw okay without without adult. If
you were to kareem, you could pick like three people,
and Christian Latner would be in that. Right, everybody who
knows college basketball, Christian Laytner.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Would be there.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Go look at his NBA career, Go look at it.
I think he made the play the All Star team
one time.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
I think one time.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So I understand what he was alluding to without getting there.
But uh, you can want this and want that and
all that other stuff, same thing.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You can say whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Wouldn't there have been great if Mike Trout had a
personality in baseball. He's good looking, he's big, he's strong,
he's a great player. He didn't have it. He didn't
have it, did he? And was never really uh, the
face of baseball, not really. He was a talented player.
People were like, oh, that's what a great player to
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look at, but he never he never got that because
he didn't have the all the other elements. And now
you got a player from Japan who's doing stuff we've
never seen before.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I think there's too much there.
Speaker 9 (06:07):
Yeah, So I think I think America is always clamoring
for the next great white hope in things, you pick
the thing, whether it be Maclamore in hip hop, can't
you drop one of the greatest rap albums of all time,
Good Kid, Mad City and Maclamore, which is no shade
on him as far as an artist. He put together
a good album, had a few good singles, but there's
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no way he wins Grammy for Best Rap Album. But
that happens, right you go to certain other elements of society,
they're always looking for that. That's just an American thing.
And if you are in denial, not you rob. If
someone's in denial about the role in which race plays
in any and everything in America, then you're in gross denial.
That is embedded in the fabric of our society. Now,
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with that being said, is there maybe an advantage to
an anomaly, right, the NBA is I don't know.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
The exact number.
Speaker 9 (06:58):
We're gonna say, sixty five is probably percent black, maybe
sixty five seventy at one point we know. So there's
always an anomaly, right, Usually the best players, the majority
of them, are gonna be black players, just based off
the numbers. So when you get an anomaly in things,
that becomes it becomes more popular. So Cooper Flag becomes
in and he's really good and he's white. That only
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helps to the allure to the popularity Allah Larry Bird,
as you mentioned, because Larry Bird, if you talk to
any brother from the eighties, they will all give you
the same story. Man, I always heard about him. I said,
let me play. He ain't never played. Nobody like me.
He ain't never played. And then they playing and say, man,
and I'm just saying what they said, that white boy
can play. All of them said that because Larry was
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actually the best player in the.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
League for he was exactly players.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
So that's the one people say to Larry Bird.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
I want to make sure they add that Larry Bird
was actually the best player in the league for a
handful of years.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
So you can't just be good. You can't just be
really good.
Speaker 9 (08:00):
Cooper Flagg has to come in, have some swag, some sauce,
and be really good, and I mean it'd be very
good and be one of, if not the best players
in the league for a chance, because it ain't easy.
Speaker 7 (08:11):
It encompasses.
Speaker 9 (08:12):
As we mentioned, Jason Tatum's one of the best players
is the kurb Randy Champ. He ain't it, you know,
Tim Duncan was a five time Champ, two time MVP,
so on and so forth.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
He wasn't it per se.
Speaker 9 (08:23):
So Cooper flag has an opportunity because he's really good
in college. He'll be the first pick, would have been
the first pick last year even out of high school
if they didn't have the one and done. And he
has an opportunity, but he's gotta be very good, one
of the best, if not the best, and he's gotta
be has to still have something about him, something else.
But I do believe in my final point is America
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will be clamoring. They are always clamoring for the next
great white hope. That's just the way the society is
in my opinion. And so he has that opportunity, but
he has to live up to it and that means
being great.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
No doubt seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven, nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Does does Cooper? Does Cooper fly Cooper flag? Being white?
Does it really matter? Or is it about the talent?
Speaker 9 (09:15):
You know?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
How much does it really matter? He could be white
and if he's not that good, he won't be the
face of the NBA. Don't I just I don't care.
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Speaker 1 (09:35):
Somebody had a big game, I think last night. Rob
jik Kidder explain that's right.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
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odd couple.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
All right, if you are a guy.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Like kelvin Washington, where everything is great, you're gonna say man.
Bronnie James played a career high thirty minutes last night.
Scored a career high seventeen points, seven to ten shooting.
He had five assists, three rebounds, and a block as well.
In the process, became the youngest Laker rookie since Magic
Johnson to record seventeen points in five insists while shooting
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at least seventy percent from the floor.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
It's incredible performance.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
There's a lot of factors by the fifty fifth pick
in the NBA draft, but if you're Rob Parker, you
can also point out that Bronnie James only got in
the game because the Lakers basically sat their entire top
seven in the rotation, that they ended up losing that
game by twenty nine points of the Milwaukee Bucks, and
(10:33):
that Bronnie James in thirty minutes of action was not
quite a team worse, but almos a team worse minus
thirty six while he was on the floor for plus minus.
Rob Parker, your thoughts on the Bronnie James performance and
the conversation to come out of last night.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I'm trying to really put my thoughts together, because once
again people have overreact. Who in the world trumpets a
seventeen point performance in a twenty nine point loss where
the game was never really in doubt with all the
injuries and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Seriously, I mean, really that's the game.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I remember when he was in Philadelphia and they gave
him some extended minutes and he looked like a fish
out of water.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
He remember that game?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And where was Lebron James talking about leave the kid alone?
Where was that tweet about the mean media? Oh it
was okay that all the talking heads on TV this morning.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
We're big up in brownni. Now, I thought.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
You wanted everybody to leave malone so that the kid
could develop and just play.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh, today was good because it was positive. Oh yeah,
did you see my boy? Did you see the kid?
You see what he was able to do.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I told you he could play.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
There's a difference.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
All of Brownie's points, all of his stats garbage time.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That wasn't a real game. That was not a real game.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
If he did that in Philadelphia when they earlier this year,
when they put him in extended minutes, you'd get my attention.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I don't value this at all. I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
There's a difference between games meaningful. That's what his stat
called garbage minutes. Why do we come up with that, Calvin?
Any points are good. You play basketball, right, No, we
know there's garbage time.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
In baseball. We call it the mop up, right when the.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Game's out of hand and you put people in Oh yeah, yeah,
mop up, dude. He pitched four innings a mop up.
That means there was a mess there there was nothing there,
there was no game. I'm sorry people going crazy and
wigging out over Brownie. I just I didn't see any
value in it other than the kid got to play
(13:04):
because there was nobody else to play and the game
was never in doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Any played. That's it. That's it. That's all I took
from him.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
This is where you're in my opinion, I don't think
you're missing it. It's not that people are like old
Brownie has seventeen he's the greatest player of all time.
What they're seeing is confidence. What they're seeing is development.
What they're seeing is him get to his spots. What
they're seeing is the shooting shots that he didn't want
to shoot in Philadelphia, he didn't want to shoot in
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other times. He is starting to develop, and that's all
you can ask for from any rookie young player is development.
And there should not be people reading into it too
much as if all of a sudden he is a
first top, you know, first tier rookie in the league
and he needs to be Rookie of.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
The Year candidate.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
No.
Speaker 9 (13:51):
I think people are celebrating him because they've somebody, they.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Literally have seen their entire lives.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
A lot of these players come in sixteen, seventeen, you know, eighteen, Okay,
now they're in the league.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
We literally have seen him his entire life.
Speaker 9 (14:04):
And so I think a lot of people are just
celebrating a kid they've seen grow up and not necessarily saying, oh,
look at him, now he's rookie of the year.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
I think that's overblown. Rob nobody's saying that.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
I think what people are saying was, wow, look at
Bronnie out here playing with some confidence.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Look at Bronnie out here getting the spots.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
Look at Brownie, ooh nice left hand labeled little body
on a little and one okay, And that's what I
think you saw. So it's because guess what could happen
tomorrow if they if he played, he could have six
points and he goes, you know, three for twelve, like
that's a very much a possibility. He did not turn
the corner. He's not all of a sudden a top
two three rookie in the in the league right now.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
But what people saw and.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
We're making and we're excited about, was to see grow
sea development, see confidence and again seeing it from somebody
that they've seen his entire life. And I've always said
this to you about this conversation. I think more people
are either like him or indifferent than they are a
dislike him. Absolutely, there are people who dislike him or
you know, just tired of the whole James family what
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out of doubt, But I think more people are either
just oh, yeah, all right, Ronnie whatever, or they're like, oh,
go ahead, Ronnie, I see a young man. So I
think people are just happy to see somebody that seems
to have been a good kid, someone who seems to
be that.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I'm so tired of hearing that there's a there's a
ton of good kids who can't play.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Stop with that he's a good kid. There's a ton
there's a lot of guys who led.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
And nobody said to be a limit.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Nobody said kid, as if that means that you should
be on the basketball team if you're a good kid.
Do you know how many kids with good kids who
got caught because they couldn't play.
Speaker 9 (15:42):
Wait wait, so it is a conversation. Now you're saying
he shouldn't be in the court.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
What are you saying, because yeah, because I don't think
he should be with the Lakers. No, I don't, I
really don't. I think he should be with the South
Bay whatever they are, the South Bay Lakers. I told
you I would have loved for him to just spent
the year. Last night with all the points, he was
minus forty six plus minus. That's not meaningful basketball when
he probably it wasn't doing anything.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And here's that was second worst.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Believe it or not, somebody was even worse than that
at minus thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
All I'm saying to you is to Rob, make it
as if he turned some corner. He didn't do anything.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Rob, Rob, listen to this starting lineup, Goodwin, Vincent, Hayes,
Morris connect.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
That might be the worst starting lineup. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (16:27):
The Wizard probably put something I was worse, and Bronny
coming off the bench giving you thirty minutes. My point is,
did you think he was gonna be plus thirty six
against literally Giannis and the Bucks. No, So people went
into that game literally just won. It was almost like
a G League experience. Let me watch him hoop and
see what he does. Nobody thought they were gonna win
without their best players, multiple players.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
So to analyze this as if it was a real game.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
And if you're saying he again, I hope nobody's saying
he turned the corner. What we're saying is, oh, he
had a good night, because again the next game he
might only have five, six, three points. That's a part
of this process. This is why I and I think
you were with me. I said, I would have loved
him just say go down there, continue to thrive in
a G league, get your bumps and bruises in the
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G league. But you know, bron And and Lakers didn't
want to do that. So it was a lot of
people were happy to see him have success one night.
Nobody's rewriting history and saying, all of a sudden, he's
a top five rookie ever in history. They're saying, that
was a fun good night for a for a young
kid who they've seen his whole life.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
That's where the NBA is a good fun night.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I just we've really lost it if that's what we're
looking at now and just meaningless points in some meaningless game.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
It's a very game.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Is something, right, Come on, rock, you get every single
game if not something?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
So what are the Wizards doing?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It is?
Speaker 9 (17:51):
So?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
What are the Wizards doing?
Speaker 9 (17:53):
What?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Are they doing? What are they doing?
Speaker 9 (17:55):
Because they playing their bad that's the worst basketball you've
seen in your life.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Just because they're playing and they're not winning, doesn't mean
they're not trying or they don't build.
Speaker 9 (18:03):
You think that organization, That organization is trying.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And they can't win.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
Stop the kill, and that's the point win And that's exactly. No,
we're not going to win.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Last time was not there, was not there, Brownie wouldn't
be there.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
And you know it, you nobody, nobody disagree with that.
That's all I said that. But what I'm saying, we're
past that. Where were we gonna hop in the deliria and
go back?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
No? Literally, all I'm saying is I'm not going to raw,
raw or celebrate a seventeen point game and a blowout
is if you're saying it was bad players and everybody
was bad, that's what he played against bad people. I
would much rather take a look at when they put
him in Philadelphia and a game that mattered when they
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had players and he got an extended blow out there
we saw about that season has only been four months,
but whatever.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
It is, that's the boy.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
He literally just got in the the whole reason why
people are excited. I think you're missing this is because
it's because they are saying, oh, let's see if he's
been growing, if it's confidence, and that's what you want
to see in anybody. A pitcher in baseball, a guard
in the NBA, a defensive back in the NFL. Are
you growing? Are you developing? Are we starting to see
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you get confidence and.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Get your nobody?
Speaker 9 (19:22):
No nobody, no, no, no, no, no, nobody was on his team.
He said, no, terrible team that was. I'm talking about
the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Somebody has to score, you know, when it's even with
bad teams. Okay, so even the Washington Wizards, they don't
score thirty two points, they'll score one hundred and fifteen
and lose and be terrible.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
You gotta score. It's an NBA game.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Right So, and I'm saying, got a score.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Come on, man, it's not even what we're talking about.
The Lakers were a horrible team and what they put
out there. Though Bucks had everybody said down.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Bad team, people will still go to scores.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
What is my point, somebody's gotta get the garbage points.
Somebody will score. It doesn't dictator tell you that he's
made a step. See that's that's that's box believe that.
But see that's just looking at a box score. The
point is, if you saw the confidence he was hesitating
throughout the year, he wouldn't shoot that shot.
Speaker 9 (20:12):
He would be like a pass confident. Okay, yes, he
was shooting with confidence. He was getting to the rack
with confidence. He was He's been dunking on people with confidence.
That's what the celebration is. There you go, you're getting
confident and getting to your spots. And that's like a
pitcher in baseball. You're getting confident throwing your throws. You're
getting confident facing big time hitters at the plate. You're
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not squimmish, you're not worrying. You're not oh, oh my gosh,
this is Mike Trout. Oh that's Mookie Bets. You're throwing
what you throw up. They hit a whole run, that's fine.
But you're comfortable throwing your pitch. And that's what he's doing.
He's comfortable taking his shots getting the hole. That's what
people were celebrating.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
He's not.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
He could have did that in at ten points. But
if he looked confidently doing looked like he was turning
a corner or not turn your corner, but look literally
turning corner, getting to the whole People were celebrating that
it's not that It's not that they were this was
a playoff game or anything. They put out a terrible
roster against the Bucks, who had everybody except dame.
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Speaker 7 (21:17):
You ready to talk about your boy?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
My boy, that's your boy.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
You ready to talk about somebody who? I mean, my gosh,
is he learning from the school of Jerry Jones? I mean,
I know he is a player on his team, but dang,
he got a take after him. That is Michael Parsons.
More news for him. Rob g He didn't stepped in
it again?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Huh oh he can't. I don't know if you can
say he stepped in again if he never get out.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
Right now, he's an habitual line stepper, habitual line stepper.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
I take that.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
So this all started allegedly.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
The way this is working out here you recalled last week,
we talked about it on the show. T Higgins and
Jamar Chase secured the band from Cincinnati right Jamar Chase
became the high paid non quarterback in for history, and
reportedly t Higgins became the highest paid number two receiver
in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
It was reported at the time that he got.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
A four year, one hundred and fifteen million dollar deal
and the first two years were guaranteed. Only problem is
when the terms of the deal were released and members
of the media, who are good at this kind of thing,
were able to dive into it and figure out the
nuts and bolts of it all Pro Football talks, Mike
Florio figured out that that deal is not four years
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one to fifteen as we knew. It's not even four
years fifty five. He didn't even get a Sam Darnold deal.
The way this contract works actually is basically a one
year deal for t Higgins. He's going to get realistically
right around thirty six million dollars in twenty twenty five,
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with signing bonuses, roster bonus, so on, and so forth. However,
the Cincinnati Bengals, if they wanted to, could cut bait
with him after the season and not have any more
guaranteed money after twenty twenty five, all of which led
to Micah Parsons on Friday, flexing his Twitter fingers, went
(23:17):
online and fired a shot at T. Higgins and his representatives.
Here it is quote, some of these agents don't have
the best interest for y'all.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Man, wake up. David Mulugeta, who was Higgins's.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Former agent and MICA's current age remember he fired him
so that he get at the same agent as the
mar Chase. Mulageta has been showing it time and time again.
It's sad seeing some of these players get violated by
teams because of lack of decency and effort by their agents.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Calvin, you're always ripping on him because he was the
one who told the Cowboys publicly won that he didn't
need to break the bank or.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Set them off exactly. Yep.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
Always bring that up because again, if I'm an agent,
hey bro, relax, I don't need you put I'm an
agent for a reason, you trust me for a reason.
Don't be going out here publicly talking about I don't
need to break the bank. I don't want all the money,
which in turn is the irony of it is because
if T. Higgins didn't necessarily break the bank here, maybe
he needed to work this out, because if you know.
(24:24):
Even further, the new agent that he has, he being T. Higgins,
is the same agent as Jamar Chase, and so a
lot of the reporting was that they got these deals
done jointly, as if attack team.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
Hey, since I represent both of them, since they both played.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
The same position on the same team, let's work this
out where boom boom boom for him, boom boom boom
for him.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
So that's how this worked out in tandem.
Speaker 9 (24:42):
So maybe he wanted to not necessarily break the bank
so that he can still be with Jamar Chase, so
he can still be with Joe Burrow and still be
with the Bengals, where I'm sure they feel like, hey,
well we're all healthy in Roland. We are one of
the better offenses in the league. My issue with this
with Rob is I'm gonna actually say, maybe my had
his tea against best interest at hand. Maybe he had
(25:04):
his best interest at heart saying hey, you know, you
could have gotten more, Hey you could have you know,
took some more money from the Bengals. My issue is,
how often are you gonna keep being in everybody's business?
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Micah?
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Do you take a week off last week you're in
DeMarcus Lawrence's business, right, you gotta know who A whole
new team across the country up in the Northwest with
the Seahawks. Hey, I love Dallas. Dallas is my home.
It's where I want to you know, my family's still there,
but I'm moving on. And you know I probably wouldn't
go win the Super Bowl there anyway. You jump in, Oh,
that's clown activity and done jumping in with that. You
(25:39):
jump into every topic, Dak Prescott, don't even name it in
the top ten. You jump in with your own contract stuff.
You jump in with Mike McCarthy. I don't really care.
You know, he's a coach, yea if he's here or now,
you know, it's about the players. I saw the careboard,
which he may have felt that way. It's a lesson
I want young people to learn moving forward in their lives.
Ninety nine percent of y'all won't be in the NFL.
(26:00):
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Just because
you can doesn't mean you have to. And I said
that to say, just because he can get his Twitter
fingers going, just because he can crack open the mic
on his podcast, just because he will have someone ask
him a question on their podcast. He doesn't have to
speak on everybody's business. He just doesn't have to. And
I can imagine it's gonna go tiring. DeMarcus Lawrence was
(26:21):
kind of the older guard and for the Cowboys, you know,
locker room defensively and you know there's issue with them.
I would imagine it's kind of more of the this
is how we've done things, MICA's Moore, Now, this is
how we're about.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
To do things. And I'm better than you.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
I said that to say this is gonna this are
the type of things that get and fracture locker rooms.
I'm not saying he can't have a podcast, but if
he had one that was a niche pod again completely
talking about something like the Kicks. All I talk about
is kicks. And I have athletes who are their favorite shoes,
right and we're talking about this, and rappers and entertainers
movie started their favorite shoes. It's that he's having all
(26:56):
these conversations about the same sporty plays with the players
that are on his team, or it's players that were
the former team, or his current coach and Mike McCarthy
at the time when he did it, or his current
quarterback in Dak Prescott not naming him, and these are
small little things that could potentially come that last straw
that broke a camel back. And if I was one
of his mentors, I was saying. I'm not saying you
(27:17):
can't have an opinion and shut up and play football.
I'm not saying that, but you don't have to put
your name on everything. You don't have to speak on everything.
And that would be my biggest thing with him. Man,
maybe he had he wanted the best for Tim Higgins,
but you put your you jump in every conversation, and
he becomes tiring one.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I mean, come on, dude, yeah you know everything that like,
really you know everything, what's best for everybody.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You don't know what was on the table or what
propon was. You don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And just because your agent was fired, of course he's
gonna tell you, oh, I would have got a better deal.
And look how bad his tiller is because I'm because
he's afraid that you might walk out on him. Of course,
an agent's gonna tell you that. What agent's gonna tell you, Man,
that was a great deal. I can't believe you got that.
I would have never gotten that. Can you imagine an
agent telling I could.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Have gotten better? What did he get twenty eight? I
could have gotten thirty two?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Come on, man, I mean, don't be that naive about
about the the what the agent's telling you. And now
you're gonna go out as propaganda and push it out
there because he's your agent.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And and and the bottom line is still this has
something to do with the players.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
This is this is the bed you've made, right, You've
allowed this to happen. You know how long would take
to have guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
One one season? They don't, they don't suit up there you.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Go that it wouldn't even they wouldn't even take that long,
all right? They were k before that week six we'll losing.
Look how much more? How much money have we lost
through six weeks?
Speaker 7 (28:55):
TV companies calling NFL.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Exactly what my money is?
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Sign up for this?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Like it's unfortunate that they don't understand it or they
don't see it. But you got to be able to
work as a group and speak as one. And until
you do that, you will continue to do this. These
guys are bragging and they're purporting all these contracts. Mon
Soto's getting seven sixty five right every time, Bobby Benia
(29:23):
is still getting his money.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Well, they're sitting at home, feet up every year getting
that million that.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Million dollar every single year.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Come on, man, how and all the NFL does is
brag about how much money it makes and rubs it
in the face.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 9 (29:38):
No, I mean, listen, you bring that up, and it's
always a very valid and great point because again, maybe,
like I said, maybe he really meant one of the
best rutihings.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
I don't necessarily question that. Maybe he does.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
But again, they put themselves in this position where we'll
never fully know what was what and what could have
been because they don't have we talk about it.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
They don't have the war chest.
Speaker 9 (29:59):
They don't have the the where with all the strength
to just say we're gonna bite the bullet for a
minute and go forward with with some type of you know, uh,
you know, we got to sit out some games, we're
gonna have to and but they're not gonna do that.
But I still think, well, you know, going back to Micah,
the larger point for me is he just doesn't have
to speak on everybody else's business if he choose to himself. Okay, fine,
(30:21):
if you want to put yourself out there, if you
want to say, I won't even I don't even want
to take all the money from the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
I just want to be a cowboy.
Speaker 9 (30:28):
Okay, if you choose, it's not great negotiating tactics that
Kelvin would do.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
But I'm just blown away at a man that jok
throws his name and his opinions and everybody else's business moves,
and you know, I just I'm blown away at that
weekly like, dude, dude, take a week or two off.
My goodness, No, I'm with you. It's just it's just
the like, Okay, see football season. Can you relax, Mike,
My goodness, graz two.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
You're in the off season.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Go work out, go go go meet your new teammates,
Go go out to launch, go out to lunch nineteen
sixty five. Good we go buy you can buy all
the two four entrees and Fridays you want. Michael Parsons
And again I'm not saying he can't have a podcast.
He doesn't want to do a vlog and he wants
to pop on other people's podcast.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
It's to me. It just doesn't have to be.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
Discussing everybody's business and all those types of things. And
I guess that that's the thing that blows me away
is again he's not talking about hell my favorite movies.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Yo.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
He's not even doing like a political one or anything,
which obviously that could get in that could get a
little crazy too, But it's just discussing things that could
become small distractions that could become bigger ones, because that
could have blown up last year we talked about that.
What if Dak Prescott, the best offensive player arguably and
and him the best defensive player, get into it. And man,
(31:47):
I'm just curious, bro, Like I mean, you don't mention
me in your top ten.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
I mean I'm just saying you not.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
And now it becomes a fractured thing, you know what
I mean, Like little small things just are not needed.
And you've been covering locker room since nineteen and you
know how these things can get. Man, it gets where
teammates got to take a side. Are you Shock or
you Kobe? You know, when they're refeude, are you on
this side or you on that side? And it could
just get weird and you just don't need that, and
(32:14):
you already have enough media people who may be trying
to do that. You already have enough social media TV
shows already, you got people girlfriends arguing about with each other.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
You don't need that.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
The last thing I need is for you to continue
to add extra distractions to us.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
That's just my thoughts.
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Speaker 4 (00:28):
That's right, Cooper Flag, who missed the entire ace or
most of the accs.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It used to be a woman and Steve knows this
on Uh what was that?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
What was that show? Her name was Fanny Flag. I
want to take match game. Fanny Flag. Okay, Cooper Flag.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I'm sure there's like thirty five people who care about
that reference.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Sorry, Fanny Flight. Anyways, Cooper Flag was nursing Ank Lagery.
We didn't know if he was gonna play in today's
game until probably about Thursday yesterday week was confirmed and
apparently didn't really need him because he played I don't
think to two minutes, had fourteen seven rebounds for SIS,
but again they won by forty four and even still,
(01:07):
the expectation is whether he's fully healthy or not. Duke
is going to go deep in this tournament, and Cooper
Flag is going to continue to be the marquee player
on the marquee team in college basketball. In fact, earlier
this week, Jay Williams went on First Take with friend
of the show Steve A.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Don't care Stephen. We call him Steve. We call him Steve.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
We go way back, We go way back with Steve,
and Jay Williams was asked what he thinks would be
the best storyline for this tournament, and of course he
says Duke winning the national championship because it's Ducal lump.
But that wasn't the reason why. His reason had more
to do with Cooper Flagg himself.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Take a listen, Cooper Flag.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Now there are pictures of him in college basketball with
his face and the American flag behind it. Everything happened
in our country right now, right, But what it means
to be America?
Speaker 7 (02:01):
America?
Speaker 8 (02:01):
First, Okay, he's from Maine. He's not like from one
of these cities.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
You know, He's from Maine.
Speaker 8 (02:09):
Okay, representing the bigger grand stage of the country. He's
won in high school if he wins at dude, Now,
I hate these comparisons, but you know, people naturally do
it see to day you know where I'm going to
Larry Bird.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
I'm like, he don't play nothing like Larry Bird. This
game is actually more like Polo Benko.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
But certain people do things like this.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
So if wins and Cooper Flag wins, it becomes way
bigger than just basketball, and then it becomes could he
be the face of the league moving forward?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Go ahead? Because I think that. I just think it's
a big stretch.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean, there's so many ifs, this, that and the
other thing, and it's not just without saying it.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I don't even know why you would even.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Approach it as he's saying, because Cooper Flag is white,
and then that would be the reason why he would
be the face of the NBA. Is that what he
was trying to say without saying it?
Speaker 9 (03:03):
Yeah, I think he was trying to add to the
kind of the current temperature of the culture.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Right, But he didn't say that.
Speaker 9 (03:12):
Yeah, he alluded to the flag, the American flag. Okay,
but that's all he said.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And I don't know, Maybe I'm reading into it because
European and foreign born players have won the last six MVPs.
Is that what you're talking about or you're just talking
about because he's white.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Because I've been covering sports long enough that I've heard.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
These stories in scenarios, Jerry Cooney, He's gonna the by
heavyweight fighter. I've just heard this over and over and over.
And I lived through the Larry Bird when Larry Bird
first came in the league, and I was there when,
you know when when I remember it very vividly, when
Isaiah and Rodman talked about, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, you know about Larry Bird.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And if you watch the games back then, and I did,
it was I mean, it was all about Larry Bird.
He make a bounce pass and they would act like
no one had ever had a No, it was really bad.
And the other thing too, is you had two wide
announcers doing the game and they were both from Boston,
Dick Stockton and Tommy Heinzen. So it was really bad.
I'm being honest with you, Like how bad it was.
(04:17):
I just think you can have this set up and
put him behind American flag and all this other stuff,
it still takes. You gotta be able to play. You
got you gotta be able to play at that level.
Otherwise that stuff you just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Do, you know what I mean? Like, no, I just kidnap.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You could, Yeah, I just I think that sounds Oh yeah,
Well if he wins and if he does this and
he dropped it, he on the league, he had thirty
five points and he does that and they win a championship,
then he been standing behind America. If I had really okay,
like like there's a lot of stuff that has to
go down, he could be a really good player.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Right, Christian Lady was one of the great he is.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
College basketball players I saw okay without without adult. If
you were to kareem, you could pick like three people,
and Christian Latner would be in that. Right, everybody who
knows college basketball, Christian Laytner.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Would be there.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Go look at his NBA career, Go look at it.
I think he made the play the All Star team
one time.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
I think one time.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So I understand what he was alluding to without getting there.
But uh, you can want this and want that and
all that other stuff, same thing.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You can say whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Wouldn't there have been great if Mike Trout had a
personality in baseball. He's good looking, he's big, he's strong,
he's a great player. He didn't have it. He didn't
have it, did he? And was never really uh, the
face of baseball, not really. He was a talented player.
People were like, oh, that's what a great player to
(05:57):
look at, but he never he never got that because
he didn't have the all the other elements. And now
you got a player from Japan who's doing stuff we've
never seen before.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I think there's too much there.
Speaker 9 (06:07):
Yeah, So I think I think America is always clamoring
for the next great white hope in things, you pick
the thing, whether it be Maclamore in hip hop, can't
you drop one of the greatest rap albums of all time,
Good Kid, Mad City and Maclamore, which is no shade
on him as far as an artist. He put together
a good album, had a few good singles, but there's
(06:28):
no way he wins Grammy for Best Rap Album. But
that happens, right you go to certain other elements of society,
they're always looking for that. That's just an American thing.
And if you are in denial, not you rob. If
someone's in denial about the role in which race plays
in any and everything in America, then you're in gross denial.
That is embedded in the fabric of our society. Now,
(06:50):
with that being said, is there maybe an advantage to
an anomaly, right, the NBA is I don't know.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
The exact number.
Speaker 9 (06:58):
We're gonna say, sixty five is probably percent black, maybe
sixty five seventy at one point we know. So there's
always an anomaly, right, Usually the best players, the majority
of them, are gonna be black players, just based off
the numbers. So when you get an anomaly in things,
that becomes it becomes more popular. So Cooper Flag becomes
in and he's really good and he's white. That only
(07:20):
helps to the allure to the popularity Allah Larry Bird,
as you mentioned, because Larry Bird, if you talk to
any brother from the eighties, they will all give you
the same story. Man, I always heard about him. I said,
let me play. He ain't never played. Nobody like me.
He ain't never played. And then they playing and say, man,
and I'm just saying what they said, that white boy
can play. All of them said that because Larry was
(07:42):
actually the best player in the.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
League for he was exactly players.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
So that's the one people say to Larry Bird.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
I want to make sure they add that Larry Bird
was actually the best player in the league for a
handful of years.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
So you can't just be good. You can't just be
really good.
Speaker 9 (08:00):
Cooper Flagg has to come in, have some swag, some sauce,
and be really good, and I mean it'd be very
good and be one of, if not the best players
in the league for a chance, because it ain't easy.
Speaker 7 (08:11):
It encompasses.
Speaker 9 (08:12):
As we mentioned, Jason Tatum's one of the best players
is the kurb Randy Champ. He ain't it, you know,
Tim Duncan was a five time Champ, two time MVP,
so on and so forth.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
He wasn't it per se.
Speaker 9 (08:23):
So Cooper flag has an opportunity because he's really good
in college. He'll be the first pick, would have been
the first pick last year even out of high school
if they didn't have the one and done. And he
has an opportunity, but he's gotta be very good, one
of the best, if not the best, and he's gotta
be has to still have something about him, something else.
But I do believe in my final point is America
(08:44):
will be clamoring. They are always clamoring for the next
great white hope. That's just the way the society is
in my opinion. And so he has that opportunity, but
he has to live up to it and that means
being great.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
No doubt seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven, nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Does does Cooper? Does Cooper fly Cooper flag? Being white?
Does it really matter? Or is it about the talent?
Speaker 9 (09:15):
You know?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
How much does it really matter? He could be white
and if he's not that good, he won't be the
face of the NBA. Don't I just I don't care.
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Speaker 1 (09:35):
Somebody had a big game, I think last night. Rob
jik Kidder explain that's right.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Now, there's two sides to this coin, specifically on the
odd couple.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
All right, if you are a guy.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Like kelvin Washington, where everything is great, you're gonna say man.
Bronnie James played a career high thirty minutes last night.
Scored a career high seventeen points, seven to ten shooting.
He had five assists, three rebounds, and a block as well.
In the process, became the youngest Laker rookie since Magic
Johnson to record seventeen points in five insists while shooting
(10:10):
at least seventy percent from the floor.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
It's incredible performance.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
There's a lot of factors by the fifty fifth pick
in the NBA draft, but if you're Rob Parker, you
can also point out that Bronnie James only got in
the game because the Lakers basically sat their entire top
seven in the rotation, that they ended up losing that
game by twenty nine points of the Milwaukee Bucks, and
(10:33):
that Bronnie James in thirty minutes of action was not
quite a team worse, but almos a team worse minus
thirty six while he was on the floor for plus minus.
Rob Parker, your thoughts on the Bronnie James performance and
the conversation to come out of last night.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I'm trying to really put my thoughts together, because once
again people have overreact. Who in the world trumpets a
seventeen point performance in a twenty nine point loss where
the game was never really in doubt with all the
injuries and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Seriously, I mean, really that's the game.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I remember when he was in Philadelphia and they gave
him some extended minutes and he looked like a fish
out of water.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
He remember that game?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And where was Lebron James talking about leave the kid alone?
Where was that tweet about the mean media? Oh it
was okay that all the talking heads on TV this morning.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
We're big up in brownni. Now, I thought.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
You wanted everybody to leave malone so that the kid
could develop and just play.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh, today was good because it was positive. Oh yeah,
did you see my boy? Did you see the kid?
You see what he was able to do.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I told you he could play.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
There's a difference.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
All of Brownie's points, all of his stats garbage time.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That wasn't a real game. That was not a real game.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
If he did that in Philadelphia when they earlier this year,
when they put him in extended minutes, you'd get my attention.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I don't value this at all. I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
There's a difference between games meaningful. That's what his stat
called garbage minutes. Why do we come up with that, Calvin?
Any points are good. You play basketball, right, No, we
know there's garbage time.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
In baseball. We call it the mop up, right when the.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Game's out of hand and you put people in Oh yeah, yeah,
mop up, dude. He pitched four innings a mop up.
That means there was a mess there there was nothing there,
there was no game. I'm sorry people going crazy and
wigging out over Brownie. I just I didn't see any
value in it other than the kid got to play
(13:04):
because there was nobody else to play and the game
was never in doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Any played. That's it. That's it. That's all I took
from him.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
This is where you're in my opinion, I don't think
you're missing it. It's not that people are like old
Brownie has seventeen he's the greatest player of all time.
What they're seeing is confidence. What they're seeing is development.
What they're seeing is him get to his spots. What
they're seeing is the shooting shots that he didn't want
to shoot in Philadelphia, he didn't want to shoot in
(13:33):
other times. He is starting to develop, and that's all
you can ask for from any rookie young player is development.
And there should not be people reading into it too
much as if all of a sudden he is a
first top, you know, first tier rookie in the league
and he needs to be Rookie of.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
The Year candidate.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
No.
Speaker 9 (13:51):
I think people are celebrating him because they've somebody, they.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Literally have seen their entire lives.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
A lot of these players come in sixteen, seventeen, you know, eighteen, Okay,
now they're in the league.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
We literally have seen him his entire life.
Speaker 9 (14:04):
And so I think a lot of people are just
celebrating a kid they've seen grow up and not necessarily saying, oh,
look at him, now he's rookie of the year.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
I think that's overblown. Rob nobody's saying that.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
I think what people are saying was, wow, look at
Bronnie out here playing with some confidence.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Look at Bronnie out here getting the spots.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
Look at Brownie, ooh nice left hand labeled little body
on a little and one okay, And that's what I
think you saw. So it's because guess what could happen
tomorrow if they if he played, he could have six
points and he goes, you know, three for twelve, like
that's a very much a possibility. He did not turn
the corner. He's not all of a sudden a top
two three rookie in the in the league right now.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
But what people saw and.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
We're making and we're excited about, was to see grow
sea development, see confidence and again seeing it from somebody
that they've seen his entire life. And I've always said
this to you about this conversation. I think more people
are either like him or indifferent than they are a
dislike him. Absolutely, there are people who dislike him or
you know, just tired of the whole James family what
(15:05):
out of doubt, But I think more people are either
just oh, yeah, all right, Ronnie whatever, or they're like, oh,
go ahead, Ronnie, I see a young man. So I
think people are just happy to see somebody that seems
to have been a good kid, someone who seems to
be that.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I'm so tired of hearing that there's a there's a
ton of good kids who can't play.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Stop with that he's a good kid. There's a ton
there's a lot of guys who led.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
And nobody said to be a limit.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Nobody said kid, as if that means that you should
be on the basketball team if you're a good kid.
Do you know how many kids with good kids who
got caught because they couldn't play.
Speaker 9 (15:42):
Wait wait, so it is a conversation. Now you're saying
he shouldn't be in the court.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
What are you saying, because yeah, because I don't think
he should be with the Lakers. No, I don't, I
really don't. I think he should be with the South
Bay whatever they are, the South Bay Lakers. I told
you I would have loved for him to just spent
the year. Last night with all the points, he was
minus forty six plus minus. That's not meaningful basketball when
he probably it wasn't doing anything.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And here's that was second worst.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Believe it or not, somebody was even worse than that
at minus thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
All I'm saying to you is to Rob, make it
as if he turned some corner. He didn't do anything.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Rob, Rob, listen to this starting lineup, Goodwin, Vincent, Hayes,
Morris connect.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
That might be the worst starting lineup. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (16:27):
The Wizard probably put something I was worse, and Bronny
coming off the bench giving you thirty minutes. My point is,
did you think he was gonna be plus thirty six
against literally Giannis and the Bucks. No, So people went
into that game literally just won. It was almost like
a G League experience. Let me watch him hoop and
see what he does. Nobody thought they were gonna win
without their best players, multiple players.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
So to analyze this as if it was a real game.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
And if you're saying he again, I hope nobody's saying
he turned the corner. What we're saying is, oh, he
had a good night, because again the next game he
might only have five, six, three points. That's a part
of this process. This is why I and I think
you were with me. I said, I would have loved
him just say go down there, continue to thrive in
a G league, get your bumps and bruises in the
(17:14):
G league. But you know, bron And and Lakers didn't
want to do that. So it was a lot of
people were happy to see him have success one night.
Nobody's rewriting history and saying, all of a sudden, he's
a top five rookie ever in history. They're saying, that
was a fun good night for a for a young
kid who they've seen his whole life.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
That's where the NBA is a good fun night.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I just we've really lost it if that's what we're
looking at now and just meaningless points in some meaningless game.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
It's a very game.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Is something, right, Come on, rock, you get every single
game if not something?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
So what are the Wizards doing?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It is?
Speaker 9 (17:51):
So?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
What are the Wizards doing?
Speaker 9 (17:53):
What?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Are they doing? What are they doing?
Speaker 9 (17:55):
Because they playing their bad that's the worst basketball you've
seen in your life.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Just because they're playing and they're not winning, doesn't mean
they're not trying or they don't build.
Speaker 9 (18:03):
You think that organization, That organization is trying.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And they can't win.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
Stop the kill, and that's the point win And that's exactly. No,
we're not going to win.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Last time was not there, was not there, Brownie wouldn't
be there.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
And you know it, you nobody, nobody disagree with that.
That's all I said that. But what I'm saying, we're
past that. Where were we gonna hop in the deliria and
go back?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
No? Literally, all I'm saying is I'm not going to raw,
raw or celebrate a seventeen point game and a blowout
is if you're saying it was bad players and everybody
was bad, that's what he played against bad people. I
would much rather take a look at when they put
him in Philadelphia and a game that mattered when they
(18:47):
had players and he got an extended blow out there
we saw about that season has only been four months,
but whatever.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
It is, that's the boy.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
He literally just got in the the whole reason why
people are excited. I think you're missing this is because
it's because they are saying, oh, let's see if he's
been growing, if it's confidence, and that's what you want
to see in anybody. A pitcher in baseball, a guard
in the NBA, a defensive back in the NFL. Are
you growing? Are you developing? Are we starting to see
(19:19):
you get confidence and.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Get your nobody?
Speaker 9 (19:22):
No nobody, no, no, no, no, no, nobody was on his team.
He said, no, terrible team that was. I'm talking about
the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Somebody has to score, you know, when it's even with
bad teams. Okay, so even the Washington Wizards, they don't
score thirty two points, they'll score one hundred and fifteen
and lose and be terrible.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
You gotta score. It's an NBA game.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Right So, and I'm saying, got a score.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Come on, man, it's not even what we're talking about.
The Lakers were a horrible team and what they put
out there. Though Bucks had everybody said down.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Bad team, people will still go to scores.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
What is my point, somebody's gotta get the garbage points.
Somebody will score. It doesn't dictator tell you that he's
made a step. See that's that's that's box believe that.
But see that's just looking at a box score. The
point is, if you saw the confidence he was hesitating
throughout the year, he wouldn't shoot that shot.
Speaker 9 (20:12):
He would be like a pass confident. Okay, yes, he
was shooting with confidence. He was getting to the rack
with confidence. He was He's been dunking on people with confidence.
That's what the celebration is. There you go, you're getting
confident and getting to your spots. And that's like a
pitcher in baseball. You're getting confident throwing your throws. You're
getting confident facing big time hitters at the plate. You're
(20:34):
not squimmish, you're not worrying. You're not oh, oh my gosh,
this is Mike Trout. Oh that's Mookie Bets. You're throwing
what you throw up. They hit a whole run, that's fine.
But you're comfortable throwing your pitch. And that's what he's doing.
He's comfortable taking his shots getting the hole. That's what
people were celebrating.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
He's not.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
He could have did that in at ten points. But
if he looked confidently doing looked like he was turning
a corner or not turn your corner, but look literally
turning corner, getting to the whole People were celebrating that
it's not that It's not that they were this was
a playoff game or anything. They put out a terrible
roster against the Bucks, who had everybody except dame.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
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Speaker 7 (21:17):
You ready to talk about your boy?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
My boy, that's your boy.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
You ready to talk about somebody who? I mean, my gosh,
is he learning from the school of Jerry Jones? I mean,
I know he is a player on his team, but dang,
he got a take after him. That is Michael Parsons.
More news for him. Rob g He didn't stepped in
it again?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Huh oh he can't. I don't know if you can
say he stepped in again if he never get out.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
Right now, he's an habitual line stepper, habitual line stepper.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
I take that.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
So this all started allegedly.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
The way this is working out here you recalled last week,
we talked about it on the show. T Higgins and
Jamar Chase secured the band from Cincinnati right Jamar Chase
became the high paid non quarterback in for history, and
reportedly t Higgins became the highest paid number two receiver
in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
It was reported at the time that he got.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
A four year, one hundred and fifteen million dollar deal
and the first two years were guaranteed. Only problem is
when the terms of the deal were released and members
of the media, who are good at this kind of thing,
were able to dive into it and figure out the
nuts and bolts of it all Pro Football talks, Mike
Florio figured out that that deal is not four years
(22:33):
one to fifteen as we knew. It's not even four
years fifty five. He didn't even get a Sam Darnold deal.
The way this contract works actually is basically a one
year deal for t Higgins. He's going to get realistically
right around thirty six million dollars in twenty twenty five,
(22:55):
with signing bonuses, roster bonus, so on, and so forth. However,
the Cincinnati Bengals, if they wanted to, could cut bait
with him after the season and not have any more
guaranteed money after twenty twenty five, all of which led
to Micah Parsons on Friday, flexing his Twitter fingers, went
(23:17):
online and fired a shot at T. Higgins and his representatives.
Here it is quote, some of these agents don't have
the best interest for y'all.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Man, wake up. David Mulugeta, who was Higgins's.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Former agent and MICA's current age remember he fired him
so that he get at the same agent as the
mar Chase. Mulageta has been showing it time and time again.
It's sad seeing some of these players get violated by
teams because of lack of decency and effort by their agents.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Calvin, you're always ripping on him because he was the
one who told the Cowboys publicly won that he didn't
need to break the bank or.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Set them off exactly. Yep.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
Always bring that up because again, if I'm an agent,
hey bro, relax, I don't need you put I'm an
agent for a reason, you trust me for a reason.
Don't be going out here publicly talking about I don't
need to break the bank. I don't want all the money,
which in turn is the irony of it is because
if T. Higgins didn't necessarily break the bank here, maybe
he needed to work this out, because if you know.
(24:24):
Even further, the new agent that he has, he being T. Higgins,
is the same agent as Jamar Chase, and so a
lot of the reporting was that they got these deals
done jointly, as if attack team.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
Hey, since I represent both of them, since they both played.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
The same position on the same team, let's work this
out where boom boom boom for him, boom boom boom
for him.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
So that's how this worked out in tandem.
Speaker 9 (24:42):
So maybe he wanted to not necessarily break the bank
so that he can still be with Jamar Chase, so
he can still be with Joe Burrow and still be
with the Bengals, where I'm sure they feel like, hey,
well we're all healthy in Roland. We are one of
the better offenses in the league. My issue with this
with Rob is I'm gonna actually say, maybe my had
his tea against best interest at hand. Maybe he had
(25:04):
his best interest at heart saying hey, you know, you
could have gotten more, Hey you could have you know,
took some more money from the Bengals. My issue is,
how often are you gonna keep being in everybody's business?
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Micah?
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Do you take a week off last week you're in
DeMarcus Lawrence's business, right, you gotta know who A whole
new team across the country up in the Northwest with
the Seahawks. Hey, I love Dallas. Dallas is my home.
It's where I want to you know, my family's still there,
but I'm moving on. And you know I probably wouldn't
go win the Super Bowl there anyway. You jump in, Oh,
that's clown activity and done jumping in with that. You
(25:39):
jump into every topic, Dak Prescott, don't even name it in
the top ten. You jump in with your own contract stuff.
You jump in with Mike McCarthy. I don't really care.
You know, he's a coach, yea if he's here or now,
you know, it's about the players. I saw the careboard,
which he may have felt that way. It's a lesson
I want young people to learn moving forward in their lives.
Ninety nine percent of y'all won't be in the NFL.
(26:00):
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Just because
you can doesn't mean you have to. And I said
that to say, just because he can get his Twitter
fingers going, just because he can crack open the mic
on his podcast, just because he will have someone ask
him a question on their podcast. He doesn't have to
speak on everybody's business. He just doesn't have to. And
I can imagine it's gonna go tiring. DeMarcus Lawrence was
(26:21):
kind of the older guard and for the Cowboys, you know,
locker room defensively and you know there's issue with them.
I would imagine it's kind of more of the this
is how we've done things, MICA's Moore, Now, this is
how we're about.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
To do things. And I'm better than you.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
I said that to say this is gonna this are
the type of things that get and fracture locker rooms.
I'm not saying he can't have a podcast, but if
he had one that was a niche pod again completely
talking about something like the Kicks. All I talk about
is kicks. And I have athletes who are their favorite shoes,
right and we're talking about this, and rappers and entertainers
movie started their favorite shoes. It's that he's having all
(26:56):
these conversations about the same sporty plays with the players
that are on his team, or it's players that were
the former team, or his current coach and Mike McCarthy
at the time when he did it, or his current
quarterback in Dak Prescott not naming him, and these are
small little things that could potentially come that last straw
that broke a camel back. And if I was one
of his mentors, I was saying. I'm not saying you
(27:17):
can't have an opinion and shut up and play football.
I'm not saying that, but you don't have to put
your name on everything. You don't have to speak on everything.
And that would be my biggest thing with him. Man,
maybe he had he wanted the best for Tim Higgins,
but you put your you jump in every conversation, and
he becomes tiring one.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I mean, come on, dude, yeah you know everything that like,
really you know everything, what's best for everybody.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You don't know what was on the table or what
propon was. You don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And just because your agent was fired, of course he's
gonna tell you, oh, I would have got a better deal.
And look how bad his tiller is because I'm because
he's afraid that you might walk out on him. Of course,
an agent's gonna tell you that. What agent's gonna tell you, Man,
that was a great deal. I can't believe you got that.
I would have never gotten that. Can you imagine an
agent telling I could.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Have gotten better? What did he get twenty eight? I
could have gotten thirty two?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Come on, man, I mean, don't be that naive about
about the the what the agent's telling you. And now
you're gonna go out as propaganda and push it out
there because he's your agent.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And and and the bottom line is still this has
something to do with the players.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
This is this is the bed you've made, right, You've
allowed this to happen. You know how long would take
to have guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
One one season? They don't, they don't suit up there you.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Go that it wouldn't even they wouldn't even take that long,
all right? They were k before that week six we'll losing.
Look how much more? How much money have we lost
through six weeks?
Speaker 7 (28:55):
TV companies calling NFL.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Exactly what my money is?
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Sign up for this?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Like it's unfortunate that they don't understand it or they
don't see it. But you got to be able to
work as a group and speak as one. And until
you do that, you will continue to do this. These
guys are bragging and they're purporting all these contracts. Mon
Soto's getting seven sixty five right every time, Bobby Benia
(29:23):
is still getting his money.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Well, they're sitting at home, feet up every year getting
that million that.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Million dollar every single year.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Come on, man, how and all the NFL does is
brag about how much money it makes and rubs it
in the face.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 9 (29:38):
No, I mean, listen, you bring that up, and it's
always a very valid and great point because again, maybe,
like I said, maybe he really meant one of the
best rutihings.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
I don't necessarily question that. Maybe he does.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
But again, they put themselves in this position where we'll
never fully know what was what and what could have
been because they don't have we talk about it.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
They don't have the war chest.
Speaker 9 (29:59):
They don't have the the where with all the strength
to just say we're gonna bite the bullet for a
minute and go forward with with some type of you know, uh,
you know, we got to sit out some games, we're
gonna have to and but they're not gonna do that.
But I still think, well, you know, going back to Micah,
the larger point for me is he just doesn't have
to speak on everybody else's business if he choose to himself. Okay, fine,
(30:21):
if you want to put yourself out there, if you
want to say, I won't even I don't even want
to take all the money from the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
I just want to be a cowboy.
Speaker 9 (30:28):
Okay, if you choose, it's not great negotiating tactics that
Kelvin would do.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
But I'm just blown away at a man that jok
throws his name and his opinions and everybody else's business moves,
and you know, I just I'm blown away at that
weekly like, dude, dude, take a week or two off.
My goodness, No, I'm with you. It's just it's just
the like, Okay, see football season. Can you relax, Mike,
My goodness, graz two.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
You're in the off season.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Go work out, go go go meet your new teammates,
Go go out to launch, go out to lunch nineteen
sixty five. Good we go buy you can buy all
the two four entrees and Fridays you want. Michael Parsons
And again I'm not saying he can't have a podcast.
He doesn't want to do a vlog and he wants
to pop on other people's podcast.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
It's to me. It just doesn't have to be.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
Discussing everybody's business and all those types of things. And
I guess that that's the thing that blows me away
is again he's not talking about hell my favorite movies.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Yo.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
He's not even doing like a political one or anything,
which obviously that could get in that could get a
little crazy too, But it's just discussing things that could
become small distractions that could become bigger ones, because that
could have blown up last year we talked about that.
What if Dak Prescott, the best offensive player arguably and
and him the best defensive player, get into it. And man,
(31:47):
I'm just curious, bro, Like I mean, you don't mention
me in your top ten.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
I mean I'm just saying you not.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
And now it becomes a fractured thing, you know what
I mean, Like little small things just are not needed.
And you've been covering locker room since nineteen and you
know how these things can get. Man, it gets where
teammates got to take a side. Are you Shock or
you Kobe? You know, when they're refeude, are you on
this side or you on that side? And it could
just get weird and you just don't need that, and
(32:14):
you already have enough media people who may be trying
to do that. You already have enough social media TV
shows already, you got people girlfriends arguing about with each other.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
You don't need that.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
The last thing I need is for you to continue
to add extra distractions to us.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
That's just my thoughts.
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