March 28, 2025 • 37 mins
Rob Parker and Ephraim Salaam, in for Kelvin Washington, react to the Lakers 13-second collapse on Thursday night against the Bulls, and Rob breaks down why he believes LeBron is getting too distracted. Rob thinks it's time to call John Calipari "Can't Coach Cal" after Arkansas blowing their chance at pulling off an upset on Texas Tech. Plus, is Colorado being premature in giving the bag to Deion Sanders?
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On from San Diego State number seventy four, E from
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Speaker 4 (02:36):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I'm good man, and I want to apologize for my voice.
First off, it's basketball season, youth basketball, so you're yelling
as a coach. Oh my god, last night, if we
got some time, I like to break this game down
for you last night. So I'm coaching. I coached my sons.
I coached about three teams. My son's on all of them.
(02:58):
His elementary school team, his all star team, and then
his travel team. Yeah and yeah. So you know I
sound like this because I don't like to say yelling
at nine and ten year olds.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I say.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Loudly encouraging them.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Right, defense, sit down, watch the screen, box out the
whole nine yards.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
And we had a heck of a semi final game
last night.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Okay, so I'm assuming you won. We did win. Okay,
very good. Congratulations, mazel top. That's awesome. So you go
to the next round championship tomorrow. Wow, what time is that?
Very nice? That's beautiful, good man.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I coached little league in New York, the same little
league that I played in when I.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Was a kid. It's a beautiful thing it is, and
it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And I remember we got shelac one day and uh,
you know, you get the kids off the field, I'm like,
huffing and puffing, Man, did you guys have fun?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
There was good? You know what I mean? You got
lost by twelve or fourteen runs or whatever. You know,
I'm doing all that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And Demetrius, I'll never forget him. He's our little catcher.
It's the smallest guy on the team catchers, tough guy.
He looks up at me, big brown eyes, bats him
with the eyelashes, you know, like, yeah, coach, we had
fun today. Let's get in the car on ice cream.
Was it was a rap, it was a round. I'm like, okay,
I got you.
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All right, let's go here, Eve, from your guy who's
so busy worried about analysts on television.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
That he can't close out game.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Like, I'm just gonna say this, when that nonsense and
distraction about stephen A is bad. Is when we see
a game like last night, when you're worried about something
that has nothing to do with your life, your legacy,
your career, and why are you doing what you're doing
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with Steven A.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Smith.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It makes no sense last night, you notice from when
I was covering in the New Jersey Nets, Yes, when
they were in New Jersey, Bill Fitch was the coach.
I'll never forget, you know what, I sat right by
the bench. I used to hear all the you know,
all the stuff. I mean, it was a great seat.
David Stern did this. The writers used to be up top.
(05:51):
When he became commission they brought us all down so
we could take in the game and write better about it,
like the interplay and.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Talk and all that. Smart.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, it was really smart, it really was. We're up
in the rafters and he brought us down. I saw
so many things and heard so many things. And Bill
Fitzchers always say no, maybe passes. Maybe it'll get there,
maybe it won't. And I'll never forget that saying yesterday,
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, maybe maybe.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
And Lebron they first of all over there by nine
ten seconds.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Ago, thirteen seconds unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And he makes the laziest maybe past I have seen.
That was the ball game. All he has to do
is inbound the pass. You can't have a lazy entry.
He also did the three deck was over him. I
mean it was just a bad comedy of errors in
the final ten, thirteen seconds, whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But here's my thing. People are bad games. He from.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
You watch the Lakers every night, you're a Laker fan
every night. Lucky to win the game against the Pacers.
Like every game you have Luca and Lebron. Every game
is a nail bier. Every double digit lead you're having
a fourth quarter disappears. You can't feel good about it,
but Lebron cannot. I'm sorry. You can't be disdistracted and
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not playing. When you're playing well, you from do whatever.
You can do, whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Whatever you want. They're not playing well.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Is this the time you want to have such a
distraction and have this ongoing battle from You've been in
this business for a long time, since you retired. The
media isn't going anywhere, and you're not gonna win that battle.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I don't care who you're not.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yet because now social media makes it a little bit different.
But before the guy, the media guy had the advantage
because he can talk every day all day.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You got another job.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Our career two is forty five years, Yeah, twelve or thirteen,
and so players would come to the city. I've been
working here and I'm still gonna be working here after
you're gone.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Claim And what.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
I don't like the spectacle that's going on when you're
on the cusp of heading into the playoffs, trying to
find the dynamics between the new team.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
You're not there yet. You're not a well oiled machine.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
They're not even close. Obviously.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Now you have long stretches where you were doing things
extremely well. But limping into the playoffs and quite possibly
falling into the play in is a disaster for the Lakers.
You want to be solidified. You want to be in
those top four seeds so you can spend the first
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round at home with home court advantage. And the way
they're playing, they have the second toughest schedule going down
the stretch, and the way they're playing now as a
Laker fan and as a basketball fan has me scratching
my head.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They're lazy. Uh.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
The attention to detail is not there. That's where all
the turnovers come from, and that those maybe passes, that's
attention to detail. I just had that. That's why my
voice is like this. I just spent a whole practice
on Wednesday, hammering, hammering, in the hammering home, attention to detail.
(09:36):
If you're gonna go set a screen, set a screen
on the actual defender, if we're in the trap and
the press cut the sideline off. If you can't do
those things, then what are you doing? And that's what
I'm saying for the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
And again, as I was saying to you, Lebron has
a tipping against the paint, like like that game is.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Another that you could have lost, easily lost? Am I right? Like?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
This is where they are coming into these last two games.
I know they were had lost seven of ten, so
what is it? They've lost eight of twelve, eight of twelve.
This is where Luca and lebrono. I know Lebron was
hurt a little bit during that stretch, but he's back.
You should be able to beat some of these teams.
(10:27):
This is a bad sign. And I don't know how
you feel good. You can't feel good.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I don't feel good. Didn't you feel good for a stretch?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Then you're like, oh, my god, they they got they
got they got Luca, my god, and now Lebron has
a chance and the Lakers have a chance.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Oh you don't want to play them.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I don't know if you could really say that, and
especially depending on what teams that they might get.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
So they're in fourth right.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Now because Memphis lost last night too, and that could
have been that would have been a big win for them.
And they played Memphis on Saturday, and Memphis just fired
their head coach, right, they got a new coach. He's finished,
I think, right.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
They just fired him.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
He's done, right, But I'm saying no, no, I don't
mean finished. He's finn like, oh finn Ish.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yes. I think he's the first finn coach in NBA history.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
I knew.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I looked at his name. I was like, so I
looked it up. Well, yeah, what you know? And I
think he's saw finn.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
But like, that game is massive because now that drops
you to the five seed, which puts you two games
outside of the seventh seed, which is the play in.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
It ain't that? Can you imagine like like they could
fall there?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Oh my god, I would go crazy. You don't want
to see me, you, I don't know. I would be
no good. It's gonna be bad.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
But let me ask you Okay, people gonna have a
bad game. I get it.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, a bad pass Isaiah Thomas to a bad pass, Okay,
Bill Lambier, it was.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
It was a comedy of errors.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know that one of the all time he from
almost kicked my TV set it I'm not and and
but that was in the playoffs, No, it was, it
was in it right, it was the But my point is,
does it bother you even more when you feel like
he's distracted?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Is that fair to say he's distracted because that's how
I feel like what he's doing makes no sense. At
this time. You made your point. Everybody saw you step
to stephen A. You're told him what you thought about
him talking about his son, and that should have been
the end of it. And then the you go to
on McAfee show. Did you even see what McAfee tweeted,
(12:49):
I can't believe Lebron was talking to a white guy.
That's what that's what that's the guys show. You went
on said, I can't believe Lebron's talking to a white guy.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
A comedy of eras. That's what's happening with the Lakers,
Lebron James down this stretch.
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even from our number two and Coach Cal I like
to call him, can't coach Cal And people were not
happy in the game last night. Well they lose what
(14:23):
was it they lost by two?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, it was eighty three, eighty five.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
And they had a chance to call time out and
you know, set something up and to tie the game,
win the game whatever it wasn't done, and coach Cal
John Calipari says that's not his style or whatever. He
(14:49):
just wants the players to go and make something happen.
And I don't know. I mean, I look at his
record long term, letting things go haven't really worked out.
His quote was in my career, I let that go,
Let the guy get to the rim. They're not going
to fail you. Blah blah blah blah. I hear a lot,
but there were people criticizing them. That another one where
(15:14):
coach Cal doesn't move on and you know, like do
something different. I know what he's been around. He was
forced out of Kentucky finally they got tired of disappointments.
And let's hear what I like to offessionally affectionately call him,
can't coach Cal.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
In my career, I let that go. Let the guy
get to the rim. They're not going to fil you.
You know they're and with that kind of time just me,
you call time out. Now you gotta worry about what
he's doing, how he's playing the inbound, what are you doing?
So I usually let that go now because it ended
the way it is. Yeah, I wish I would have
(15:53):
called a timeout, but ninety nine percent of the time
I let that go because.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Now I know what they're doing. They know what we're doing.
That's why we did it. But coaches Ephraim draw plays
all the time. So what if they know what we're doing?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
So what if they know the ball's going to our
best player, does that mean we can't get it. We
can't get the basket because you know the ball's going
into Ephram. No, come on, Oh wait a minute. Let
me see. I was sitting courtside when Michael Jordan hit
that shot over Craig Elow in Cleveland. Okayphram, I'm sitting
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there courtside. I'm talking to Clifton Brown from the New
York Times. I'm going for the Daily News at that point,
covering the NBA, and I'm like the Cavaliers on double
team at Michael or like there's only one guy who
could get the ball, could hurt you. I would have
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two guys draped over him. Somebody's gonna be wide open.
Go ahead, I dare you to make But you Michael
ain't getting the ball because there wasn't enough time to
pass it. So you you had to throw it to
where we was gonna shoot it, and I just couldn't
believe that he would.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Would be able to get the ball.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
But anyway, my point is, uh, this is a long
history for Cali Perry.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
The one championship.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
What is that the one year they had six players
drafted right by six six players drafted in the first
round of the NBA draft. They had one championship in
his career and.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
It was him what boogie? Who else?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
John Wall?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Unbelievable and and and I'm just at some point when
you look at him, hell of a recruiter. That's not that's.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Not even an issue. I just don't think you can coach.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
You can't have that much talent and come up short
all the time. And then the other thing too. He
says like that's that's his philosophy or whatever. Right to
just let it go. But wait, the way it came down,
I would have called time out. Does that make sense
to you?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
No? No, you can look where are you on him?
Speaker 6 (18:25):
They were middle of the road in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Right, I'm not saying that they're in.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Ten in conference play. Nothing to write home about twenty
two and fourteen or whatever. That is, and so he
had an opportunity yesterday to extinguish all of.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
That, or at least have people go wow right.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Like too, to wash all that away.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Because the deeper you go in the tournament, the furthest away.
Your regular season record matters. And you had an opportunity
to be a Texas Tech team. It was ranked third
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by the selection committee. You dominated the game, You had
control of the game until you didn't. And now it
literally goes, we're having this conversation, and you allowed yourself
to be exposed in this conversation by not calling the
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time out, by not drawing up the right play, by
not doing the things that the great coaches do to
secure a win.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I gotta play that we're gonna get a good look
at a basket.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
It might not go in.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
It's always two options a great play, that's what you want.
Always two options, unless you got a Jordan, unless you.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Got exactly the ball's going.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
On now right, But other than that, there's always two
options on a great play.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
That's why the play is great. That's why it's great.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
And for him not to have that in his bag
and ready to go and have confidence to call the
time out and set that up.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Right, we've been working for this moment. Problem, I had work,
We've been working for this moment.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
What happens if we're in the NCAA tournament and we
have a chance to tie the game or in this situation,
I need a play?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Where's my play?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
It's the only I believe double digit seed there was
remaining in the sweet sixteen. Right, so now that becomes
the story, that becomes the story.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Becomes a big story. Huge, Well, coach cow.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Here he comes over to Arkansas. I got rid of
muscle muscleman.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Right, you got and he got run out of Kentucky.
And look at where he is with this team. Look
at what he's done and the run that they're on.
And instead we got more of the same. Ye, disappointing
moments where a coach cal for whatever reason. I'm not
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saying he's supposed to win every year, and every nobody
said that, but I always tell you from when you
have that kind of talent and you win once, it's
only that.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Well, that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
He became just the one and done whisper like when
you only when you when you're hyper focused on the
one and done. Guys, they don't they don't have an
allegiance to you.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
They're just here, your baris a couple of coffee in
them for a couple.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Of months, and and once that became the thing. Now
there's no urgency to win a championship because you're just
passing through.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
But how can you have a team with six first
round They all went to the league, right, that's how
good they were. But they couldn't. You couldn't. You couldn't
been able to duplicate that sense.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
No, but you you weren't able to get something more
out of them.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
You weren't turnovers too much. Your turnovers too much.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Now that may be different now because some of those
guys may have stayed because the money is gonna be
so big. But that would that that may be different now.
But back then, dudes was like, yo, man, you give
me for eight months and I'm out.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I just wonder.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I know he's won a championship, won a lot of
games in basketball and all that, But when you think
of Cola Pari, what what do you think of? It
comes to mind the first thing just to.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Do one of the top recruiters in the country.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Okay, and mine is he can't coach like seriously like
and I'm and I say that from the standpoint of
when you're when you get that much talent, it's not
about winning every year. And he did win one, but man,
I can name uh fifty coaches that won one, you
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know what I mean? That just had the right players,
the sun and moon aligned and everything worked out that
year for you and and they won, and just no
other real success he should have won. You want to
like cement your legacy. If he went to Kentucky in one,
two or three in a row, like then you're like,
(23:48):
my god, recruiter coached Stars one championship.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
It's hard to do that when your philosophy is based
on just young guys. You gotta remember these are seventeen
eighteen year old kids. That's a lot of responsibility every
single year for a new seventeen year old to come
in and carry you to a championship. Like that team
he had with Anthony Davis. I mean that was Anthony Davis.
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Was Anthony Davis. What he's doing in the pros, he
was doing in college. There's nothing you can add with
the handle he had. And so that's a formula that
he used. It it's hard to duplicate. Why would you duplicate.
Why would you try to duplicate that? That's so difficult
to do.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And so yeah, he can get the kids in, but
they're out just as fast as they get there. But
you would think that still you would be able to
maximize them for a year because there's so much talent.
I just don't have time to build enough.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Think about that, you don't have enough time. These kids
come in. Where do they get there? With August? August
done in February, March, it's over right. So you got
to build this whole thing with this teenager along with
other teenagers who played all over the place. You got
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to bring them together and they gotta be a weld
oora machine in a couple months.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I understand it. It's just that some of the coaching
moments in circumstances.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I get it. But that's why I look at it
as well. You know what I mean? I get that
part of it.
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Right now, let's talk college football.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Ryan, can you give us the details on Dion Sanders
got a new contract extension with Colorado. The program has
turned around, there's no doubt about it. And Dion's what
two years, right, has been in two years?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Two years? Yeah, one, one, two thirteen and twelve in
two years, and Ryan they cashed him out, that's right.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
He got a five year, fifty four million dollar extension
which puts him under contract through the twenty twenty nine season.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Ephraim, My first thoughts was, isn't this premature?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That was my first thought, Not that he doesn't deserve
We get his name is what he's been able to do,
what he attracts, you know what I mean? He I know,
he didn't have any formal interviews with the NFL. And
you know, even though there was that talk about the
Raiders or what was the other team that they he
was dallased Dallas. Yeah, him and Jerry Jones. I never
(26:50):
saw that, did you. I never really saw that Jerry
Jones gonna give a more attention to somebody else.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
And give up control.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Right, It's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But I get where Dion has done and where he's
taken Colorado from where it was.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
But last year my thought was, and a lot of
people thought.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
They had a chance, they had a chance to go
to the college football playoffs and and who they lose
to Kansas State, Kansas and they and it didn't and
they didn't get there. And I'm not saying that's the
reason to hold it back or whatever, but the reward
should have been kind of had they done that, that
would have been a miraculous job for real in two
(27:31):
years where that program was And maybe they looked at
it and said, well, a got us on the cusp
of it, right, Yes, b look at the notoriety and
the energy all around, even though the big stars aren't
coming like they came in year one.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Remember that where were you on this? Mine was just premature.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
For me, I'm on the other side of that.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
So when you look at it and the totality of
what the prime time experience consists of, he moved the economy,
and Boulder, he moved the economy. So if you have
(28:28):
a person who can step into a situation that has
been long forgotten. Worst team in college football when he
took over one and eleven hadn't won anything. Afterthought, the
first year he gets there, they win four games, but
(28:48):
the whole world changed for them. Enrollment regular enrollment shot
up twenty five percent, right. Merchandise was the two thousand percent.
(29:09):
Season tickets another you know, increased by eight hundred percent.
He stimulated the economy in a whole city, and so
he's still staying on that trajectory. The longer he's there,
(29:32):
in my opinion, the better he'll be as a coach.
Now we get to see him without his sons, all
three of them, because I include Travis Hunter, and now.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
That's going to be interested in this year. That's the
big thing. But no doubt, although we don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
When I see a deal like this happen, he must
have had one heck of a recruiting class so they
can see what's coming over the horizon. So you may
not know that. So for me, based on what he
did and what he meant to college football and the
way he went about it, of course I believe he
(30:12):
deserves it.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
For me and I get all the other parts. If
you want to talk about the merchandise and all that stuff,
and I understand.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
That because that's a big part, but there was also there's.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Something about winning too, and as a coach, and if
it's just about the other stuff, and that's what you're
happy with as long as you're you're selling tickets and
you're in you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (30:34):
In your.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
You're the president or the ad of Colorado two years ago,
two years ago, and I come to you and say, hey,
if you hire him in two years, you'll be one
game away from a possible college football playoff berth. But
(31:00):
you got to sign them to a ten year fifty
four million dollars, I mean a five year.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Fifty What do you do? What do you do ill
to do?
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Honest?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
What do you if I know that for sure that
that would be it? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Like that, If I tell you that's that, that's what's
gonna happen, what would you do? I don't What would
you do?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Man?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
There's a lot of stuttering over there. No, I know
because I because I get that if.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
It's you still didn't answer it before you go into
your soliloquy. You didn't answer.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
What you can do? I would. I would probably sign them.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
There And that's what we are, okay, and that's what
we are here.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
But here's my thing. Yes, you turned it around two years.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And when you become one of the highest paid college coaches,
but you haven't won anything.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
And I'm not.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
This is not just about Dion. This is where we
are in this world. We're cashing out players who haven't
won anything. We're re up and coaches who haven't won anything.
And and I just don't where's the reward at the end,
here's the reward?
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Where's the reward? Dion took the job on the first contract.
They didn't even have all the money to pay him.
That's what they said.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I don't doubt it.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
They said, what was the school like, we don't have
the money, but we're going to find it.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Guess what.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Guess what they have now.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
They got the money. What are we doing? Okay, so
no way, So here you go.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
They don't get to the college football playoffs, just say
that they ever just no, the next couple of years.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
I don't want to say the next five, next couple
of years.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
You know, he's just got three star players as kids
are all off the team, and let's just say that
they take a step back next year and they don't
make it to the college football playoffs over the next year.
To you're still good with it because you rewarded him
before he really yeah, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Like that wouldn't bother you that I just I believe
in his ability to recruit. So you're paying. Okay, But
here's my here's my dilemma. I hear that.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
If it's all about that, and you're Kentucky and you're
recruiting great players and you're going to the basketball tournament,
the NCAA tournament, hold on, no, no, no, but now,
coler Parrie, no, no, no, you know what.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
We're good. We're good. Ready, you're ready. I'm ready.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Basketball, n C double A basketball, n C Double A
football two completely separate animals. There are no one and
done in football. There are no ones. You can't build
your team on one and down like you can in
basketball and football.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Okay, but but coach cal coach where he broke from
a lot of people. He said, after doing it the
other way, he's going to evolve because you won't survive.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I always talk about Tom Mizzo. Tom Mizzel decided for
a long time he he wasn't playing that game. And
guess what, it's been twenty five years since he won
a champion. Yes, because he don't have those kind of players.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
College colleges aren't recruiting kids out of high school anymore. Right,
they're just going to the portal and junior college. They're
not even doing high school kids anymore because they can
get people football.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
It's completely different.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
But you get my point is it wasn't enough just
to be a recruiter. That you want somebody to win
at some point. And that's all I'm saying. I get
what he's done there.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Well, he was a nine win. They went from one
to four.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I get it to Did you just say his record
is there? It's thirteen and twelve, Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Just that is.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Reward for hear me out, reward for one of the
largest college football contracts with a thirteen and twelve record,
no playoffs. I'm just saying I get where they were.
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve something. It seemed like
it's the cart before the horse, Ephraim. If they win
(35:24):
that game and they get to the college football playoffs,
you can write the check for whatever.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
It is there was.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
That would have been something and there was no horse.
Who cares which one you put in front of him? Now,
because you got both of them, what do you.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Do next year? Do you rip up his contract next year?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
If they get to the college football playoffs, like what
you've already given him.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
He's fine. We know Dion is not hurting for money. Yeah, no, no,
I don't mean to like that.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
But what it was was it was a commitment to him.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
He already had. Did he sign a four year contract?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
We appreciate you and what you've done. I think it
was a three year deal.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
We appreciate you for what you've done and where you're
taking us in the future, based on the things that
you've done, bringing Marshall over there, you having the pros,
pros or it's some of the greatest players to ever
play in that building there, Like.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I get all that, and they're still thirteen and twelve.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
They're changing the landscape of what people.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
That if it wasn't Dion.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, John Smith is the coach, Yes, and they're thirteen
and twelve.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Does he get a five, four year or whatever? No,
he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
You know, the Dion The Dion part is the I
get that, and what are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (36:51):
But this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
John Smith doesn't change the economy of a whole city,
But he would have the same run.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
It doesn't change. It would be twelve. It would be
the same enrollment
Speaker 5 (37:01):
In school, doesn't go up twenty five percent for John
Smith
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Speaker 4 (02:36):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I'm good man, and I want to apologize for my voice.
First off, it's basketball season, youth basketball, so you're yelling
as a coach. Oh my god, last night, if we
got some time, I like to break this game down
for you last night. So I'm coaching. I coached my sons.
I coached about three teams. My son's on all of them.
(02:58):
His elementary school team, his all star team, and then
his travel team. Yeah and yeah. So you know I
sound like this because I don't like to say yelling
at nine and ten year olds.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I say.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Loudly encouraging them.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Right, defense, sit down, watch the screen, box out the
whole nine yards.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
And we had a heck of a semi final game
last night.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Okay, so I'm assuming you won. We did win. Okay,
very good. Congratulations, mazel top. That's awesome. So you go
to the next round championship tomorrow. Wow, what time is that?
Very nice? That's beautiful, good man.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I coached little league in New York, the same little
league that I played in when I.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Was a kid. It's a beautiful thing it is, and
it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And I remember we got shelac one day and uh,
you know, you get the kids off the field, I'm like,
huffing and puffing, Man, did you guys have fun?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
There was good? You know what I mean? You got
lost by twelve or fourteen runs or whatever. You know,
I'm doing all that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And Demetrius, I'll never forget him. He's our little catcher.
It's the smallest guy on the team catchers, tough guy.
He looks up at me, big brown eyes, bats him
with the eyelashes, you know, like, yeah, coach, we had
fun today. Let's get in the car on ice cream.
Was it was a rap, it was a round. I'm like, okay,
I got you.
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Let's welcome to the Odd Couple crew today.
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All right, let's go here, Eve, from your guy who's
so busy worried about analysts on television.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
That he can't close out game.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Like, I'm just gonna say this, when that nonsense and
distraction about stephen A is bad. Is when we see
a game like last night, when you're worried about something
that has nothing to do with your life, your legacy,
your career, and why are you doing what you're doing
(05:29):
with Steven A.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Smith.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It makes no sense last night, you notice from when
I was covering in the New Jersey Nets, Yes, when
they were in New Jersey, Bill Fitch was the coach.
I'll never forget, you know what, I sat right by
the bench. I used to hear all the you know,
all the stuff. I mean, it was a great seat.
David Stern did this. The writers used to be up top.
(05:51):
When he became commission they brought us all down so
we could take in the game and write better about it,
like the interplay and.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Talk and all that. Smart.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, it was really smart, it really was. We're up
in the rafters and he brought us down. I saw
so many things and heard so many things. And Bill
Fitzchers always say no, maybe passes. Maybe it'll get there,
maybe it won't. And I'll never forget that saying yesterday,
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, maybe maybe.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
And Lebron they first of all over there by nine
ten seconds.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Ago, thirteen seconds unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And he makes the laziest maybe past I have seen.
That was the ball game. All he has to do
is inbound the pass. You can't have a lazy entry.
He also did the three deck was over him. I
mean it was just a bad comedy of errors in
the final ten, thirteen seconds, whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But here's my thing. People are bad games. He from.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
You watch the Lakers every night, you're a Laker fan
every night. Lucky to win the game against the Pacers.
Like every game you have Luca and Lebron. Every game
is a nail bier. Every double digit lead you're having
a fourth quarter disappears. You can't feel good about it,
but Lebron cannot. I'm sorry. You can't be disdistracted and
(07:18):
not playing. When you're playing well, you from do whatever.
You can do, whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Whatever you want. They're not playing well.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Is this the time you want to have such a
distraction and have this ongoing battle from You've been in
this business for a long time, since you retired. The
media isn't going anywhere, and you're not gonna win that battle.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I don't care who you're not.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yet because now social media makes it a little bit different.
But before the guy, the media guy had the advantage
because he can talk every day all day.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You got another job.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Our career two is forty five years, Yeah, twelve or thirteen,
and so players would come to the city. I've been
working here and I'm still gonna be working here after
you're gone.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Claim And what.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
I don't like the spectacle that's going on when you're
on the cusp of heading into the playoffs, trying to
find the dynamics between the new team.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
You're not there yet. You're not a well oiled machine.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
They're not even close. Obviously.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Now you have long stretches where you were doing things
extremely well. But limping into the playoffs and quite possibly
falling into the play in is a disaster for the Lakers.
You want to be solidified. You want to be in
those top four seeds so you can spend the first
(08:54):
round at home with home court advantage. And the way
they're playing, they have the second toughest schedule going down
the stretch, and the way they're playing now as a
Laker fan and as a basketball fan has me scratching
my head.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They're lazy. Uh.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
The attention to detail is not there. That's where all
the turnovers come from, and that those maybe passes, that's
attention to detail. I just had that. That's why my
voice is like this. I just spent a whole practice
on Wednesday, hammering, hammering, in the hammering home, attention to detail.
(09:36):
If you're gonna go set a screen, set a screen
on the actual defender, if we're in the trap and
the press cut the sideline off. If you can't do
those things, then what are you doing? And that's what
I'm saying for the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
And again, as I was saying to you, Lebron has
a tipping against the paint, like like that game is.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Another that you could have lost, easily lost? Am I right? Like?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
This is where they are coming into these last two games.
I know they were had lost seven of ten, so
what is it? They've lost eight of twelve, eight of twelve.
This is where Luca and lebrono. I know Lebron was
hurt a little bit during that stretch, but he's back.
You should be able to beat some of these teams.
(10:27):
This is a bad sign. And I don't know how
you feel good. You can't feel good.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I don't feel good. Didn't you feel good for a stretch?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Then you're like, oh, my god, they they got they
got they got Luca, my god, and now Lebron has
a chance and the Lakers have a chance.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Oh you don't want to play them.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I don't know if you could really say that, and
especially depending on what teams that they might get.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
So they're in fourth right.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Now because Memphis lost last night too, and that could
have been that would have been a big win for them.
And they played Memphis on Saturday, and Memphis just fired
their head coach, right, they got a new coach. He's finished,
I think, right.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
They just fired him.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
He's done, right, But I'm saying no, no, I don't
mean finished. He's finn like, oh finn Ish.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yes. I think he's the first finn coach in NBA history.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
I knew.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I looked at his name. I was like, so I
looked it up. Well, yeah, what you know? And I
think he's saw finn.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
But like, that game is massive because now that drops
you to the five seed, which puts you two games
outside of the seventh seed, which is the play in.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
It ain't that? Can you imagine like like they could
fall there?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Oh my god, I would go crazy. You don't want
to see me, you, I don't know. I would be
no good. It's gonna be bad.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
But let me ask you Okay, people gonna have a
bad game. I get it.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, a bad pass Isaiah Thomas to a bad pass, Okay,
Bill Lambier, it was.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
It was a comedy of errors.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know that one of the all time he from
almost kicked my TV set it I'm not and and
but that was in the playoffs, No, it was, it
was in it right, it was the But my point is,
does it bother you even more when you feel like
he's distracted?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Is that fair to say he's distracted because that's how
I feel like what he's doing makes no sense. At
this time. You made your point. Everybody saw you step
to stephen A. You're told him what you thought about
him talking about his son, and that should have been
the end of it. And then the you go to
on McAfee show. Did you even see what McAfee tweeted,
(12:49):
I can't believe Lebron was talking to a white guy.
That's what that's what that's the guys show. You went
on said, I can't believe Lebron's talking to a white guy.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
A comedy of eras. That's what's happening with the Lakers,
Lebron James down this stretch.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
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twenty eight minutes old in Polonies to former NBA vet
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even from our number two and Coach Cal I like
to call him, can't coach Cal And people were not
happy in the game last night. Well they lose what
(14:23):
was it they lost by two?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, it was eighty three, eighty five.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
And they had a chance to call time out and
you know, set something up and to tie the game,
win the game whatever it wasn't done, and coach Cal
John Calipari says that's not his style or whatever. He
(14:49):
just wants the players to go and make something happen.
And I don't know. I mean, I look at his
record long term, letting things go haven't really worked out.
His quote was in my career, I let that go,
Let the guy get to the rim. They're not going
to fail you. Blah blah blah blah. I hear a lot,
but there were people criticizing them. That another one where
(15:14):
coach Cal doesn't move on and you know, like do
something different. I know what he's been around. He was
forced out of Kentucky finally they got tired of disappointments.
And let's hear what I like to offessionally affectionately call him,
can't coach Cal.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
In my career, I let that go. Let the guy
get to the rim. They're not going to fil you.
You know they're and with that kind of time just me,
you call time out. Now you gotta worry about what
he's doing, how he's playing the inbound, what are you doing?
So I usually let that go now because it ended
the way it is. Yeah, I wish I would have
(15:53):
called a timeout, but ninety nine percent of the time
I let that go because.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Now I know what they're doing. They know what we're doing.
That's why we did it. But coaches Ephraim draw plays
all the time. So what if they know what we're doing?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
So what if they know the ball's going to our
best player, does that mean we can't get it. We
can't get the basket because you know the ball's going
into Ephram. No, come on, Oh wait a minute. Let
me see. I was sitting courtside when Michael Jordan hit
that shot over Craig Elow in Cleveland. Okayphram, I'm sitting
(16:36):
there courtside. I'm talking to Clifton Brown from the New
York Times. I'm going for the Daily News at that point,
covering the NBA, and I'm like the Cavaliers on double
team at Michael or like there's only one guy who
could get the ball, could hurt you. I would have
(16:56):
two guys draped over him. Somebody's gonna be wide open.
Go ahead, I dare you to make But you Michael
ain't getting the ball because there wasn't enough time to
pass it. So you you had to throw it to
where we was gonna shoot it, and I just couldn't
believe that he would.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Would be able to get the ball.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
But anyway, my point is, uh, this is a long
history for Cali Perry.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
The one championship.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
What is that the one year they had six players
drafted right by six six players drafted in the first
round of the NBA draft. They had one championship in
his career and.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
It was him what boogie? Who else?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
John Wall?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Unbelievable and and and I'm just at some point when
you look at him, hell of a recruiter. That's not that's.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Not even an issue. I just don't think you can coach.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
You can't have that much talent and come up short
all the time. And then the other thing too. He
says like that's that's his philosophy or whatever. Right to
just let it go. But wait, the way it came down,
I would have called time out. Does that make sense
to you?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
No? No, you can look where are you on him?
Speaker 6 (18:25):
They were middle of the road in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Right, I'm not saying that they're in.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Ten in conference play. Nothing to write home about twenty
two and fourteen or whatever. That is, and so he
had an opportunity yesterday to extinguish all of.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
That, or at least have people go wow right.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Like too, to wash all that away.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Because the deeper you go in the tournament, the furthest away.
Your regular season record matters. And you had an opportunity
to be a Texas Tech team. It was ranked third
(19:19):
by the selection committee. You dominated the game, You had
control of the game until you didn't. And now it
literally goes, we're having this conversation, and you allowed yourself
to be exposed in this conversation by not calling the
(19:42):
time out, by not drawing up the right play, by
not doing the things that the great coaches do to
secure a win.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I gotta play that we're gonna get a good look
at a basket.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
It might not go in.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
It's always two options a great play, that's what you want.
Always two options, unless you got a Jordan, unless you.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Got exactly the ball's going.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
On now right, But other than that, there's always two
options on a great play.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
That's why the play is great. That's why it's great.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
And for him not to have that in his bag
and ready to go and have confidence to call the
time out and set that up.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Right, we've been working for this moment. Problem, I had work,
We've been working for this moment.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
What happens if we're in the NCAA tournament and we
have a chance to tie the game or in this situation,
I need a play?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Where's my play?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
It's the only I believe double digit seed there was
remaining in the sweet sixteen. Right, so now that becomes
the story, that becomes the story.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Becomes a big story. Huge, Well, coach cow.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Here he comes over to Arkansas. I got rid of
muscle muscleman.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Right, you got and he got run out of Kentucky.
And look at where he is with this team. Look
at what he's done and the run that they're on.
And instead we got more of the same. Ye, disappointing
moments where a coach cal for whatever reason. I'm not
(21:22):
saying he's supposed to win every year, and every nobody
said that, but I always tell you from when you
have that kind of talent and you win once, it's
only that.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Well, that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
He became just the one and done whisper like when
you only when you when you're hyper focused on the
one and done. Guys, they don't they don't have an
allegiance to you.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
They're just here, your baris a couple of coffee in
them for a couple.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Of months, and and once that became the thing. Now
there's no urgency to win a championship because you're just
passing through.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
But how can you have a team with six first
round They all went to the league, right, that's how
good they were. But they couldn't. You couldn't. You couldn't
been able to duplicate that sense.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
No, but you you weren't able to get something more
out of them.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
You weren't turnovers too much. Your turnovers too much.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Now that may be different now because some of those
guys may have stayed because the money is gonna be
so big. But that would that that may be different now.
But back then, dudes was like, yo, man, you give
me for eight months and I'm out.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I just wonder.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I know he's won a championship, won a lot of
games in basketball and all that, But when you think
of Cola Pari, what what do you think of? It
comes to mind the first thing just to.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Do one of the top recruiters in the country.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Okay, and mine is he can't coach like seriously like
and I'm and I say that from the standpoint of
when you're when you get that much talent, it's not
about winning every year. And he did win one, but man,
I can name uh fifty coaches that won one, you
(23:26):
know what I mean? That just had the right players,
the sun and moon aligned and everything worked out that
year for you and and they won, and just no
other real success he should have won. You want to
like cement your legacy. If he went to Kentucky in one,
two or three in a row, like then you're like,
(23:48):
my god, recruiter coached Stars one championship.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
It's hard to do that when your philosophy is based
on just young guys. You gotta remember these are seventeen
eighteen year old kids. That's a lot of responsibility every
single year for a new seventeen year old to come
in and carry you to a championship. Like that team
he had with Anthony Davis. I mean that was Anthony Davis.
(24:16):
Was Anthony Davis. What he's doing in the pros, he
was doing in college. There's nothing you can add with
the handle he had. And so that's a formula that
he used. It it's hard to duplicate. Why would you duplicate.
Why would you try to duplicate that? That's so difficult
to do.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And so yeah, he can get the kids in, but
they're out just as fast as they get there. But
you would think that still you would be able to
maximize them for a year because there's so much talent.
I just don't have time to build enough.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Think about that, you don't have enough time. These kids
come in. Where do they get there? With August? August
done in February, March, it's over right. So you got
to build this whole thing with this teenager along with
other teenagers who played all over the place. You got
(25:14):
to bring them together and they gotta be a weld
oora machine in a couple months.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I understand it. It's just that some of the coaching
moments in circumstances.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I get it. But that's why I look at it
as well. You know what I mean? I get that
part of it.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
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Speaker 4 (25:40):
Right now, let's talk college football.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Ryan, can you give us the details on Dion Sanders
got a new contract extension with Colorado. The program has
turned around, there's no doubt about it. And Dion's what
two years, right, has been in two years?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Two years? Yeah, one, one, two thirteen and twelve in
two years, and Ryan they cashed him out, that's right.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
He got a five year, fifty four million dollar extension
which puts him under contract through the twenty twenty nine season.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Ephraim, My first thoughts was, isn't this premature?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That was my first thought, Not that he doesn't deserve
We get his name is what he's been able to do,
what he attracts, you know what I mean? He I know,
he didn't have any formal interviews with the NFL. And
you know, even though there was that talk about the
Raiders or what was the other team that they he
was dallased Dallas. Yeah, him and Jerry Jones. I never
(26:50):
saw that, did you. I never really saw that Jerry
Jones gonna give a more attention to somebody else.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
And give up control.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Right, It's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But I get where Dion has done and where he's
taken Colorado from where it was.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
But last year my thought was, and a lot of
people thought.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
They had a chance, they had a chance to go
to the college football playoffs and and who they lose
to Kansas State, Kansas and they and it didn't and
they didn't get there. And I'm not saying that's the
reason to hold it back or whatever, but the reward
should have been kind of had they done that, that
would have been a miraculous job for real in two
(27:31):
years where that program was And maybe they looked at
it and said, well, a got us on the cusp
of it, right, Yes, b look at the notoriety and
the energy all around, even though the big stars aren't
coming like they came in year one.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Remember that where were you on this? Mine was just premature.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
For me, I'm on the other side of that.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
So when you look at it and the totality of
what the prime time experience consists of, he moved the economy,
and Boulder, he moved the economy. So if you have
(28:28):
a person who can step into a situation that has
been long forgotten. Worst team in college football when he
took over one and eleven hadn't won anything. Afterthought, the
first year he gets there, they win four games, but
(28:48):
the whole world changed for them. Enrollment regular enrollment shot
up twenty five percent, right. Merchandise was the two thousand percent.
(29:09):
Season tickets another you know, increased by eight hundred percent.
He stimulated the economy in a whole city, and so
he's still staying on that trajectory. The longer he's there,
(29:32):
in my opinion, the better he'll be as a coach.
Now we get to see him without his sons, all
three of them, because I include Travis Hunter, and now.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
That's going to be interested in this year. That's the
big thing. But no doubt, although we don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
When I see a deal like this happen, he must
have had one heck of a recruiting class so they
can see what's coming over the horizon. So you may
not know that. So for me, based on what he
did and what he meant to college football and the
way he went about it, of course I believe he
(30:12):
deserves it.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
For me and I get all the other parts. If
you want to talk about the merchandise and all that stuff,
and I understand.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
That because that's a big part, but there was also there's.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Something about winning too, and as a coach, and if
it's just about the other stuff, and that's what you're
happy with as long as you're you're selling tickets and
you're in you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (30:34):
In your.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
You're the president or the ad of Colorado two years ago,
two years ago, and I come to you and say, hey,
if you hire him in two years, you'll be one
game away from a possible college football playoff berth. But
(31:00):
you got to sign them to a ten year fifty
four million dollars, I mean a five year.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Fifty What do you do? What do you do ill
to do?
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Honest?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
What do you if I know that for sure that
that would be it? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Like that, If I tell you that's that, that's what's
gonna happen, what would you do? I don't What would
you do?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Man?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
There's a lot of stuttering over there. No, I know
because I because I get that if.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
It's you still didn't answer it before you go into
your soliloquy. You didn't answer.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
What you can do? I would. I would probably sign them.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
There And that's what we are, okay, and that's what
we are here.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
But here's my thing. Yes, you turned it around two years.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And when you become one of the highest paid college coaches,
but you haven't won anything.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
And I'm not.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
This is not just about Dion. This is where we
are in this world. We're cashing out players who haven't
won anything. We're re up and coaches who haven't won anything.
And and I just don't where's the reward at the end,
here's the reward?
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Where's the reward? Dion took the job on the first contract.
They didn't even have all the money to pay him.
That's what they said.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I don't doubt it.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
They said, what was the school like, we don't have
the money, but we're going to find it.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Guess what.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Guess what they have now.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
They got the money. What are we doing? Okay, so
no way, So here you go.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
They don't get to the college football playoffs, just say
that they ever just no, the next couple of years.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
I don't want to say the next five, next couple
of years.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
You know, he's just got three star players as kids
are all off the team, and let's just say that
they take a step back next year and they don't
make it to the college football playoffs over the next year.
To you're still good with it because you rewarded him
before he really yeah, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Like that wouldn't bother you that I just I believe
in his ability to recruit. So you're paying. Okay, But
here's my here's my dilemma. I hear that.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
If it's all about that, and you're Kentucky and you're
recruiting great players and you're going to the basketball tournament,
the NCAA tournament, hold on, no, no, no, but now,
coler Parrie, no, no, no, you know what.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
We're good. We're good. Ready, you're ready. I'm ready.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Basketball, n C double A basketball, n C Double A
football two completely separate animals. There are no one and
done in football. There are no ones. You can't build
your team on one and down like you can in
basketball and football.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Okay, but but coach cal coach where he broke from
a lot of people. He said, after doing it the
other way, he's going to evolve because you won't survive.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I always talk about Tom Mizzo. Tom Mizzel decided for
a long time he he wasn't playing that game. And
guess what, it's been twenty five years since he won
a champion. Yes, because he don't have those kind of players.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
College colleges aren't recruiting kids out of high school anymore. Right,
they're just going to the portal and junior college. They're
not even doing high school kids anymore because they can
get people football.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
It's completely different.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
But you get my point is it wasn't enough just
to be a recruiter. That you want somebody to win
at some point. And that's all I'm saying. I get
what he's done there.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Well, he was a nine win. They went from one
to four.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I get it to Did you just say his record
is there? It's thirteen and twelve, Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Just that is.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Reward for hear me out, reward for one of the
largest college football contracts with a thirteen and twelve record,
no playoffs. I'm just saying I get where they were.
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve something. It seemed like
it's the cart before the horse, Ephraim. If they win
(35:24):
that game and they get to the college football playoffs,
you can write the check for whatever.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
It is there was.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
That would have been something and there was no horse.
Who cares which one you put in front of him? Now,
because you got both of them, what do you.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Do next year? Do you rip up his contract next year?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
If they get to the college football playoffs, like what
you've already given him.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
He's fine. We know Dion is not hurting for money. Yeah, no, no,
I don't mean to like that.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
But what it was was it was a commitment to him.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
He already had. Did he sign a four year contract?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
We appreciate you and what you've done. I think it
was a three year deal.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
We appreciate you for what you've done and where you're
taking us in the future, based on the things that
you've done, bringing Marshall over there, you having the pros,
pros or it's some of the greatest players to ever
play in that building there, Like.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I get all that, and they're still thirteen and twelve.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
They're changing the landscape of what people.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
That if it wasn't Dion.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, John Smith is the coach, Yes, and they're thirteen
and twelve.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Does he get a five, four year or whatever? No,
he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
You know, the Dion The Dion part is the I
get that, and what are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (36:51):
But this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
John Smith doesn't change the economy of a whole city,
But he would have the same run.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
It doesn't change. It would be twelve. It would be
the same enrollment
Speaker 5 (37:01):
In school, doesn't go up twenty five percent for John
Smith
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