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In Hour 3 of The Odd Couple 🎙️, Rob Parker and Kevin Washington dive into the situation in New Orleans after another disappointing season with Zion Williamson. Is it official — is Zion a bust? And what should the Pelicans do moving forward? Then, USA Today’s national columnist Dan Wolken joins the show to break down everything coming out of the NFL Draft 🏈 and weigh in on QB Nico Iamaleava. Plus, a brand-new edition of Last Call 🍻 and the guys react to Draymond Green’s missed layup in the final seconds of the Warriors-Clippers matchup 😬. All that and more in Hour 3 🔥🎧!
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We'll do that.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You got another NBA story, you know, with the NBA
regular season, over the moves, coaches whack general managers. David
Griffin down in New Orleans, who was win Cleveland right
when Lebron was there?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Right, Yeah, he got whacked, he did.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And there's a lot of stuff going on there, a
lot of injuries, a lot of just bad.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
They're just bad, the Pelicans.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
But the real question, and we already saw, I mean,
Shams is already reporting that Joe Dumarsho of course led
to Pistons as their president general manager to a championship
beat the Lakers in two thousand.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And four, had a great run about five six years. Yeah, yeah, no,
it was. It was definitely a run. And they went
to the was it six years? They went to the
conference final and they and they went.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Back to back to the to the U four five championship,
lost in seven games to the Spurs.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
The next year team that was a real team and
he and he put that together, he really did.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But anyway, so uh, it's not official or anything, but
that's the talk that he's the leading candidate, and Joe
is from New Orleans, so that would be coming home
for him.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
He works for the league now.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Uh, but just imagine if it's Joe Dumars or anybody
and you're taking over that job as the general manager.
Your big task, Kelvin is what do you do? Do
you keep Zion and build around him or do you
(02:57):
get unload Zion and start all over?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I mean that to me. You have to take a
look at both. And I gotta be honest. And we've
talked about him before. When he plays unstoppable, he's actually
missed more games than he's played in his NBA career,
which is incredible for a young guy.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But he has.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
If I'm in charge, I'm ziggy and Zion the way
Dallas sent Luca Packett, I am on my I'm done
with Zion And you know what, he might come back
and wind up being a great player for somebody or whatever.
But I think he needs a fresh start and needs
to move on, and it can't be in New Orleans
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because it just doesn't seem like he can get right.
Am I crazy to want to give up a talent?
Because when he plays, the numbers are there no.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Easy all Star, twenty five, eight and four all night
every night.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's easy on. So you hold on to him and
building around him.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I genuinely want to hold on to him and see,
you know, he like we've said, he's an All Star
when he plays.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
But here's the trouble.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
As a general manager, potentially, Joe Dumars will have to
wait and see. I have to be also, miss Cleo.
I gotta be a prophet. I gotta look ahead. I
gotta be able to prognostic kate on what is about
to happen. And sometimes in order to look in the future,
all I gotta do is look in the past. And
when I start to look in the past with Zion,
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well here's the problem. Rob rookie year, twenty four games,
second year all right, sixty one, which is still low,
but sixty one, okay, here we go is an All Star,
didn't play a whole year in twenty one to twenty two,
comes back twenty two to twenty three All Star. But
he only played twenty nine games. But obviously you know
there it is. You got seventy the next and thirty
this year. You don't get healthier as you get older.
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Your body doesn't become more durable when you get older.
And if they're having issues already, then I have to
start to look ahead as a general manager, say this
is probably going to be an issue, and I look
at somebody, not the same Bill, but guys who are big,
big bodied.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I look at Joel Embiid.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I look at Blake Griffin was spectacular four a handful
of season, then just started to break down and break
down and break down. It was never the same and
it had to be a spot up, three point shooter,
and it just never worked out. And I start to
get concerned, and I have to start to explore, who's
got a first round pick for me, a few first round, two,
three first rounds, and your star player or one of
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your really good players, because if I'm gonna have to
if I want to win, I might have to just
blow this whole thing up. Brandon Ingram, gone, Zion, gone,
start over, start fresh. It didn't work out. You thought
you had a big three and CJ. McCollum, brandon Ingram
and Zion. You thought you had your big three. It
didn't work And I have to absolutely start making calls.
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What you got for me two first round, three first
rounds and like I said, that a really good player,
because I have to start building for the future, because
I can't think he's gonna get healthy, rob, Why do
I think he's only gonna start Oh, now he's gonna
start playing. And now he's gonna play seventy five games
the most he's played at seventy.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Before that, it was sixty one.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Because what they might say that when the pushback would
be well, Joel Embach started his career not playing well
and he wound up winning an MVP. Right, yeah, okay,
so there was an example. I'm just saying, Oh, I know,
but I'm gonna use that same example. Say Joel embiid
has played under fifty percent. I think it's around like
forty seven percent of the games he's he was supposed
to play, and I can't. I can't live with that
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as a GM because it's not that you're not good,
not that you're not great.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I literally can't do that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I'm building a team around you or a couple of
guys night in, night out, and if you're giving me
sixty eight seventy two, Okay, I get it, right, I
get it, But you're giving me thirty forty. If you're
Joel embi thirty forty for your zion, I can't do that.
I can't even sell tickets because people start to get
frustrated every time I go to the game.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
He ain't here right. No, I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And that's why you're probably right as far as a
fresh start and.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Just but you gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And I remember in Detroit obviously I was there during
that run. And and Joe Dumore has always said a
quote that I'll never forget, and I thought it was
perfect because a lot of times gms, when they draft people,
they don't want to prove say that they're wrong. You
know what I mean, Like, oh, I got it wrong,
So I gotta do whatever I can to make this
work so that they can't say I picked somebody wrong.
(07:32):
Joe was always willing to trade. He traded a number
of picks, remember that he had, and.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
He got burned a couple of times. He got rid
of some good guys. But but he wasn't right.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And and his quote was, it's not about being right,
it's about getting it right.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And that's where this comes in.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
If he were to get the job, and you got
to figure out like, like he doesn't have that onus
about having David Griffin was the one.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Who drafted trying to get right for this franchise. That's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So I understand, and there'll be people who will be
upset and I can have a star.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
How can you get get rid of a star like that?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And it all makes sense, But dude, I think his
time is just it's it's played out there.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I'm with you, dude.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I don't think all of a sudden he's gonna be
healthy and play every game and then see that scoring
average state the same in a handful of games rather
than a full season.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I'm not convinced.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Zion needs to be your number two, maybe even three.
And what I mean is he might be more talented
then you're one or your two, but you have to
have a guy where he can be the power Gasolt
to your Kobe, you know what I mean, where he
can be Hey, I'm here. I'm your Chris Boss to
your d Wade in the bron And maybe I'm more
talented than your two. But I'm gonna give you fifty
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sixty five games. But you because you can't rely on him,
and I can't build a franchise and I can't settle
a fan base a guy who plays thirty games one year.
This year, twenty four games, another twenty nine years. Oh
and by the way, didn't play an entire year in
twenty one twenty twenty two. So what I literally can't
sell you that.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
If I do the math, one, two, three, four, five,
six is eight and then they's supposed to been in
like four hundred plus games.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He's had an opportunity to play. He's only playing two
hundred and fourteen, right, That's what I'm saying, Like he
has played so few.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And the other thing, too, is is he really box
office anymore?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He came out of the elite, out of college, one.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Of the biggest prospects, like like like all the talk
was about Zion.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
He got the signature to shoe with jordans Man brand.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Thang out, I know ever want to say, like your
shoes many shoes about to blow up. I didn't literally
men blow the shoe up.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
But that whole thing, like, is there really marketing around him?
Is it?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Like he to me seems like an afterthought, not the
numbers I'm talking about him as the players is an
afterthought to all these other younger players, Like and he's
twenty four, he'll be twenty five.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Here you know, I think it's July. It gets late early.
He's started saying it gets late early.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
To your point, star players, And I'm not even talking
about the obvious ones who have Q ratings that are
through the roof. And it's Steph Steph and the Lebrons
and Kd's and all that yo kics young players, you know,
the ants to John morants, the Tatums, you know, the
the Donovan Mitchell's, the SGA's. I mean, he's he's behind
a lot of them. He might even be behind the
(10:32):
tray youngs. Maybe even obviously Wimby like Luca, who's only
what everyone knows this one, so everyone knows it is Wimby.
So he's starting to be an afterthought. And it's sad
because he's spectacular. But again, from your body's gonna betray you.
It's not gonna get healthier, You're not. I just in
all that weight. Man, he's been doing this since he
was a kid. All that weight, all that dude, your
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body only has so many jumps. Your body only has
so many cuts and jumps and dives and all that.
And especially when you're carrying that much weight and you
jump out of the roof and you're dunking on everybody.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's a lot. It's a lot on a torque, and
the way he plays, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Dude, And I just, I just I have to start
to explore who can give me a great deal. I'm
not gonna do it for anything. I'm not doing it
just to give up anything. But who can give me
a great deal that I feel like it's an off
or I can't refuse?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
All right?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
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Speaker 2 (11:35):
What are you doing.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Keeping Zion and rebuilding around him, going to get players
that compliment him?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Or are you shipping them off the.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
First banana boat and sending him somewhere else and then
replenishing your roster with new players and say we're gonna
go in a different direction. Where are you keep up Zion?
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Speaker 2 (13:32):
All right?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
We're talking about the Zion Williamson, who is a spectacular player,
is amazing to watch when he plays. The problem, man,
is he'll never play. And so what do you do
if you're the new GM and the rumors out there
could be Joe Dumars formerly with the Pistons.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Do you move on? Do you say I cannot let
a star go? Do you stick with them?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Or you say it's time to go bye bye and
send them packing with some Beignet's and some gumbo eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Who we got?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
All right, Craig in Houston. You're on the couple, Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Hey, good evening, fellows.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Thanks for taking my call, no doubt, brother, Hey, and I.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Want to start man today we laid uh, we laid
Big George to rest man. So the rest in peace,
Big George foreman man He in Houston. So I just
wanted to send that out, Yes, yeah, absolutely, But yeah, Rob,
you got to give me a pool pool o Zion.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Man, Man, you know what, I'm the pooh pooh king
and I'm pooh poohing Zion Williamson.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Thank you, bro, thank you. I mean all that is
spectacular and this and that we hadn't seen enough of
the cat. We don't know if he's spectacular or not,
you know, and all that it and quite honestly, this
whole never seen before.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Come on, man, this is Charles Barkley.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Charles Barkley was as big and explosive as this cat
when he came out. Man, Charles was the truth boy. Man. Yeah,
he can't stay healthy, man and nobody and now the
killer is he's starting with the off the court crap.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
No, I know, and that's the other part, all right, Craig,
hold on, this is just for you.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm the pooh poo king, Thank you, buddy. Ain't nothing
like a good old cackle.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
How about Randy in New Orleans join the couple of
Fox Sports Rader.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
He's front center, Randy, what's up?
Speaker 8 (15:15):
Uncle Randy?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Kenada? This guy now, yo yo.
Speaker 9 (15:19):
It's harder to get on this show than it is
to get Zion on the court.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Man.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
I gotta I gotta be number one in all, Mark,
It's good to hear from y'all, man, But I just
say this, if you die, you know, I'm down here
in the city, man, and you're hearing more about Zion's
personal life than you hearing about his on the court
life going that's happening. It's time to move out of town.
I just say this.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
If Joe Dumars does get the job, which looks like
he's doing, it's time to taking him up for having
many first round picks that you could get, having many
young on the verge players that you could get, It's
time to start from zero, and it kind of re
building this thing from the bottom up. It said it
because I heard the other call of Stee He was
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somewhat like Charles Barkley.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
Ive got to disagree, man, Charles Bucklet please right.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
He was saying. He was saying, yeah, Randy, thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Pharah in Michigan, you're in the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
What's happening?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
What up?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Rob?
Speaker 10 (16:27):
What up?
Speaker 11 (16:27):
Kevin Washington?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yo?
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Along?
Speaker 8 (16:30):
What are you doing man?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
We're doing great. Thanks for calling. We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
What a do.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
So I'm here and I totally agree it is time
to trade him.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
He's been there for five years.
Speaker 12 (16:40):
Unlike other players like Charles Barkley, when he came in
the league, he didn't have a vet like Motes belonged
to a ride him and teach him how to be
a pro. And he's been there five years and.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
He hasn't played. He played what maybe what one and
a half full years the five years he's been there,
he's missed the full season.
Speaker 12 (16:55):
It's time to go, and you can't keep seeking money into.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
A bottomless pit.
Speaker 12 (17:00):
I wish them all the best.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I hope he starts to the Baybamba drama that it's time.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
It's time to go.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
It's hard, it's hard to argue with that.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I mean, it's not one season, two seasons. I mean
they've gave it, given him all the time in the world.
You got to sell somebody to a fan base. Rob
I gotta be like, hey, come see Blake tonight. And
if I can't do that night at night, out what
I got? What can I do?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
How about Sean in Sacramento, You're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
What's up Sean Yoh?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
My uncle from another mother, cousin, Kelvy, and my brother's
behind the board, what up Ali would say? Man, Look,
I want to make a few quick points, man number one.
People were saying the same thing to the Sacramento Kings
when it came to the market with the Marcus cousin.
My man was putting up amazing numbers on a bad team,
but kept getting hurt. And the year they decided not
to sign him is the year my man's career came
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to it. And you know, not not to brag about
or anything like that, but you know guys that tell
you that they're injury prone, listen to him. And my
other point about that, Man, if Dumars the Great does
get that job, what better GM to build a team
without a superstar than the guy that put together those
grit and grind, those tough minded, those defensive minded pistons.
You know, y'all both know very well about how great
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they see we could put together. Man, So I then
go get them picks for z Ion, get Joe Dumars
in that front office. All he does is magic. I
wish we kept them longer out here in Sacramento. You
see what comments we got going on now with our team,
and let's see what happens. Man, they got too good
of a coach and too good of a corps because
that little point guard man, if you're gonna start anybody
with a good defensive team, you need him. So I
mean go ahead and let the ion go on. More
(18:34):
poop poo from the poop poo king on my behalf
brother out.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I hear you, Sean, I'll be a Sacramento coming up
next weekend, not this weekend, to go see the A's
and the White Side. Yep, Casey and Oregon. You're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Casey?
Speaker 10 (18:51):
Casey?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Sorry?
Speaker 8 (18:52):
Hey Rod? Heck Calvin next protecting my call?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yes? How are you?
Speaker 11 (18:57):
Good man?
Speaker 8 (18:57):
So every professional athlete's to ask themselves this question early
in their career. Do I love the sport? Do I
want to be an old time great and win championships?
Or do I love what the sport can do for me? Unfortunately,
for Pelicans fans, Zion love what the sport can do
for him and his family. You move on, tear it
(19:20):
down and rebuild.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
All right, playing No, we'll get this last call here.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I do think there is an element of burnout these
guys who literally all they've done is play basketball. Their
whole life for baseball for but it's all I've done
since I was three. It's all I've done. And when
you start to hear these stories a lot of these guys, man,
I got burned out what it took for me to toll.
It took mentally, spiritually, physically, Like it was a lot.
I mean, you do start to worry about that for
some players, not all, for some.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Josh in Santa Barbara, you're in the odd Couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
What's up, Josh?
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Good eating gentlemen, how are you guys?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Great? We appreciate you calling in and listening to the
Odd Couple.
Speaker 11 (19:58):
Yeah, I'm gonna drive home every day.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
I hope.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
I think you guys hit it on the head trade him,
But there's plenty of good trade partners out there who
are kind of maybe desperate enough to make that move,
that have a good internal core, some good stability. Maybe
he bounces back in a new place and realizes that
he needs to turn it around if he wants to
save his career. So I was thinking places that you
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know they need something like that, that have a lot
of assets, or if they have a bad playoff run
like Taglo Lakers playm out. Maybe they make a deal.
Phoenix is in trouble, they need to make a deal.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yep.
Speaker 11 (20:34):
I could see san Antonio maybe wants that guy. They've
got tons of assets. Maybe they turn him around the Warriors.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
It's endless.
Speaker 11 (20:42):
You can get the best deal you can and maybe
he figures it out as that second or third option.
But maybe he is the most talented guy on a team.
Like you said, I love it. I think it's really exciting.
I hope they do it, and I hope it's a good,
big story.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
All right, you know what, we'll have to wait and see.
I mean, are some teams out there who have a
bunch of stock piled some picks. I mean if the
Celtics still have a bunch of picks as well, and
you may be, you never know, get another place where
he does. He's not relied on Rod where he has
to be the guy. Now what you mean, he's just
second or third and then all of a sudden you
can make a run where he's been able to wrest
a bit. And now if he's your second and third option,
(21:16):
all right, we got Zion as our second to third.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You love it.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
We have Dan wokin getting ready to join us here
in a little bit national columnsts with USA today.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Uh talk some draft with him and some other things.
Do that in the moment. First we gotta get you
set up with what's trending with Steve the sacred.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
Hey, Steve, Yeah, happy birthday to ya, Happy birthday, hot Bee,
birthday to Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Steve.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
If you never knew you are an honorary black man
today right now, because you have to sing this at
a black birthday in my life.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I don't give it that. We're gonna see the normal one.
Then you're gonna get hit with the Stevie.
Speaker 13 (21:55):
Ye Steve, Steve, we got we got two yeah, Sagan,
one blind one death.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Whow that was funny? How did you say that about Kelvin?
Whoa Steevie somewhere?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
The funny is the best stories, by the way, are
this Stevie's stories? People have Shack. I'll say it in
ten seconds. Shacks is I've got into elevator and I
got into it and Stevie wonderday was in the same
condo and I get an elevator.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Stevie goes, big fellow, how you doing? How you see me? Stevie?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
He literally was like, how did he know it was me?
Anthony Anderson had some great stories. The stories about there
are the absolute best.
Speaker 13 (22:32):
There was an award show once where Andy Williams was presenting,
but it was by satellite to Stevie Wonder and they
had a problem with the connection that he actually said
on the air, Stevie, can you see me not kidding?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Stevieyeh I. Usually he has all the fun with it too.
Speaker 13 (22:48):
Well, no fun for the Red Sox tonight. They're down
fifteen to one at Tampa Bay in the bottom of
the eighth inning. The Yankees had those four solo homers
earlier and still lead for to one over the Royals.
Top of the knife, the Tigers and Trek Schooble up
nine to nothing at Milwaukee in the bottom of the
seventh inning. Mets lead three to one at the Twins
in the bottom of the seventh of Minnesota loses, they'll
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be five and twelve this year. And the Cardinals are
up seven to nothing on the Astros in the bottom
of the sixth inning. Three finals. Atlanta was leading eight
nothing in the fifth eight four the final at Toronto,
Austin Riley two homers five RBIs Paul Skeene's the win
in Pittsburgh ten to three over Washington, skiing six innings,
one earned run allowed, and the Giants were down three
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to nothing in the first then got six runs top
of the second wound up winning ten to four at Philadelphia.
San Francisco on the road eight and two so far
about to start up Cubs at San Diego. The Padres
are ten at zero at home. They just pitched three
straight shutouts against Colorado and the last place Rockies at
three and twelve. Start up at Dodger Stadium in a
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half an hour LA in the last week and a
half three and six record after the eight to no start.
Dodger Rai fielder Tasker Hernan is out due to illness.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
This evening.
Speaker 13 (24:02):
The Phoenix Suns fired coach Mike Budenholzer after one season.
The Pelicans fired vice president David Griffin. The NBA Playing
Tournament starts Tuesday with a couple of games. Purdue All
American guard Braden Smith's will return for his senior season.
In the w NBA Draft, which is ongoing, Paige Becker's
Connecticut was the number one overall selection to Dallas, which
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won the lottery last November.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Back to you, all right, Steve, enjoyed the rest of
your birthday night. Thank you, sir, thank you.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
It is the Odd Couple comingy live on a tire
Reck dot Com study from the tire Reck dot Com
Studios on a Magic City Monday. We are joined now
by Dan Wolkin, national columnists with USA Today. Dan Wolkin
on Twitter aka X Dan.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
What's up? Brother? How you doing so good? Dan? Can
you still be woke during this time? I'm just asking.
Speaker 12 (24:51):
I'm not touching that one. Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Somebody right now saying are we the see? All right? Dan, Well,
let's talk about the Tennessee situation. How about about that?
Go ahead and say his name, Nico. I'm not even professional,
say go ahead, day you bail him out?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
But Dan, I don't see any issue on either side.
He asked for a lot of money and they said thanks,
but no thanks, Like, is there a problem?
Speaker 12 (25:26):
Well, yeah, there's a problem. The problem is that we
don't know exactly what was in his contract to be
at Tennessee with the collective their how much they were
paying him, what the contract said.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (25:40):
We haven't seen it, so I don't want to speculate.
But Listen, you're at the end of spring practice. Tennessee's
made plans for the year based on him being the
quarterback of their football team, and for him to come
in at the end of spring practice when honestly, he
hasn't been great. You know, he's been okay, Like they've
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been a good team, and he's had a decent career
so far in college, but nothing amazing. And for him
to say, well, you know, I need more money, I
think it's just indicative of the fact that there's really
no rules right now around college sports and everyone's just
winging it. Everyone's trying to get what they can get,
(26:24):
which which is fine, but you do need some order
to it. But do you need a little bit of structure.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
To do Who is going to give structure? First, Dan,
Here's where I'm going to push back on this structure.
Who's given this?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
First of all, the colleges didn't want to pay the kids,
So you can't legislate money that's not even your money
that people are donating. Number Two, coaches walk out on
kids all the time when when they're ready to go
on to bigger and better situations, and don't I just
don't understand who's going to legislate the people who for
(27:00):
for one hundred years told kids, have you got a
free pizza? We're gonna take away your scholarship? Are those
the people now, I mean seriously, who are going to
legislate what money they should get.
Speaker 12 (27:12):
Well, I'm not gonna sit here and defend the NCUBA.
I've been critical of the NCUBA for a long time
on this, and I've always felt that college athletes who
are keep part of this business should be paid as
if they are integral to the popularity of college sports,
which they are. But the problem is, you know, the
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the NBA, major League Baseball, of the NFL, they all
have collective bargaining agreements that set the rules of the road,
and that is to the benefit not only of the players,
but of the teams as well, and I think that
would be helpful in this situation in college, but you
don't have that because the university presidents don't want to
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consider these guys employees, and so they don't want to
do collective bargaining, and so what you have is everybody
being a free agent every single year. And I don't
think that's a great system for anybody, including the players,
although some of them are making a lot of money
off of it. I think a lot of guys get
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into bad situations, and I think when you look at
it now, Niko Iamaliava is not even going to make
as much money as he was going to make a
Tennessee this year.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, it was supposed to make. I think it's two
million dollars. Now we don't know what's going to happen.
They rolled the dice and he lost. I mean, that's
what I think. He thought that they had to have them,
and so that I understand.
Speaker 12 (28:40):
But that's what I'm saying is a collective bargaining agreement.
It's not just to protect the people paying the money.
It's to protect the players and to protect the should
be a union.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
They tried to do that question.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
You remember that, Dan, They tried it and the judge
wouldn't allow them to go forward. They do need somebody
to protect them as a whole.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
The exact seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
There's nobody in who has their best interest and they
can't do it on their own piece me a one
guy at a time. So Dan, I agree with that.
But they tried to do it, and when it was
shut down like these. The schools want to legislate stuff,
but they don't want to be on the on the
hook for stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
And do you agree with that?
Speaker 12 (29:24):
Oh, the role that the university presidents, the schools, the
athletic departments have played in where we're at right now,
that's indisputable. They've been not very they haven't had any
foresight about what was going to happen. They've tried to
bury their head in the sand. They don't really get
it still, in my opinion, and they their whole strategy
(29:47):
has been to run to Congress to try to pass
an anti trust bill that gives them protection from being sued.
And I understand why they're doing that, but I don't
think that solves the fundamental issue here. And I think
they would all be better off if they just acknowledged reality.
These guys are professional athletes, and so if they're professional athletes,
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then you need to treat them and negotiate with them
and pay them like professional athletes, and then you can
set the rules of the road, and that is to
everybody's benefit in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Dan Wilkin, National Columns USA Today. So then what's the
straw that breaks the camel back?
Speaker 12 (30:23):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
You know, when the biggest name in cost football does something,
Is it we find out some sleazy situations happening somewhere?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Like what do you think change?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Is it where all of a sudden we have some
type of agreement or some type of set rules or
in their stipends or something.
Speaker 12 (30:40):
Yeah, I don't know exactly. Look, I think what Tennessee
did is actually probably going to embolden maybe some schools.
Some coaches to say to guys who want to come
in and ask for more money, like no, Like, if
you want to go into the portal and test your
luck and see what you can get, go right head,
(31:00):
but we're not going to do that. You have a
contract with us, and we expect you to fulfill that contract.
I think more schools should be and will be willing
to do that. But in terms of the overall structure,
they're still trying to lobby converse to get a bill.
They feel like it's a possibility. I think I'm a
lot more skeptical of that because just our government has
(31:22):
a lot more going on right now, and I don't
think this has been a particularly high priority for them.
So I don't know what is the thing that's going
to cause them to accept reality that they need to
come up with a radically different structure here that allows
them to negotiate with these guys and to at least
(31:43):
you have some control over what's going on. But you know,
I do think the fact that you've had the situation
with Nico does maybe get people's attention in a way
that they didn't have it before.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
All Right, he is Dan Wilkin, Dan, thank you so much.
We appreciate you taking time.
Speaker 12 (32:03):
Appreciate it, guys.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
All right, Yeah, it's gonna be interesting at some point.
I asked him that he's expecting that answer. But something's
gonna break the back something, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And if enough people you how you scare players is
by doing what they just did with Nico and said thanks,
but no thanks, And then he has other players have
to be careful to say if they back out of
a deal, am I gonna get a deal somewhere else?
Or they let him sit on the sidelines. Now, if
that happens to a big time player or a decent
player was making money, that would that would scare some
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players into not.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Doing I still blame n C double A.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
All they had to do for the last thirty years
or so, people been, you know, clamoring and crying for this.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
They didn't want to do it.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
It's just, Hey, everybody gets fifty thousand and you get
a ten thousand rais or next year, sophomore year, junior year.
So you know what I mean, everybody happy? Are you
getting some money? They're allowed to have a couple bucks,
are cool? Or just use your likeness something to the
idea that they just didn't do anything. Then they had
to overcompensate. Now it's kind of the wild wild West,
and here we are. I'll blame them all right on
the way last Call eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
And your boy Draymond, he did something. It's very Draymond
of himself.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well he did you know what, He got more votes
for Defensive Player of the Year after his offensive performance.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I think we'll talk about that, Dick.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
He defended himself, right, Yes, So I wonder if that's
on the podcast, right. I'm just asking that's a good point.
We have to might have to find that out. So
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And we should say eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
If you want to get in for a last call.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox Draymond Green did
something that made.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Me so mad. He played. Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Not only did he play, he played himself. He had
a chance to tie the gag. She was at to
go up one with the layout. It was a big
play and they drove up a great play. Boom drop,
some step drops him a dime right under the basket. Oh,
easy layout, right. Instead he does this new modern day
NBA where I have to draw foule and.
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Speaker 4 (37:06):
He jumps literally backwards into the defender and just throws
the ball up to try to draw file. Man, if
you don't put that ball in the hole, And that's
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Levine going to shoot a Tyler hero going to shoot
the three instead of going for a layup. Remember that now, Draymond,
they're taking me off. Man, it's new. Sometimes it's modern.
I hate to be an old man on the couch
number screaming where is he now?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Is he gonna do a podcast about that miss blown
lay up in a big situation, or instead of going
around trying to campaign for Defensive Player of the Year,
Maybe he should be on the layup line, man, Maybe
you should be worried about working on that instead of
going out trying to dumb.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Campaign is strong on people. All right, he's strong on that. Layup.
All right, we got a call, last call.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
Here's the.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Last last call.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Time on the on.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
All right, let's get you all.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
We had that?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
All right, last call? Who got there?
Speaker 13 (38:09):
You go?
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Speaker 5 (38:16):
Hey, tell us what's going out?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
What's up? Rodney?
Speaker 12 (38:19):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (38:19):
KEEVI are you clavoyant man?
Speaker 8 (38:21):
Because listen, I just said.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
To this book right, and it's called uh, it's based
on a traffic stop.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
It's called driving Will Black, a memoir of troll filing. Right,
So this guy got he got stopped by the cops
back in ninety nine, and he wrote a book on it.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
It's on Amazon.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
His name is Keusin Zillips.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
So anyway, he got a part of it where he
played basketball, the best player in Minnesota back in eighty one.
He was mister basketball, Red Overton.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Great player.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
I guess and he guess what you said.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Is David pay These guys a little.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Some way back way back, they would not have these issues.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
No doubt, about it. I mean, they have put themselves.
They had a chance in this situation. And even when
this thing finally came to a head, thanks for the
call to appreciate money, go get that book to they
didn't want to do it. They didn't want to do it.
And that's why you're where you are due. It's let
me tell you something, say this ain't rocket science.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
When you got kids, their lives are ruined because they're
deemed as watch out as works.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You deem them as bad guys.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
They're crooked, their thugs because they use their own likeness
to just go sign a few things and to get
some tattoos.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
But don't you real prior to them right now, they're
bad guys. Don't you remember like the idea that the
colleges or whatever are selling their their.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
I always said that was identity theft, right, And probably
the worst was the college football game video game.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
They they went out of business rather than pay the kid.
Think about that. They went out a bit. They were like,
oh no we're not paying them. We'll close it down
rather than cut them in. And then they came back,
you know, after after all lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah, but they shut it down six to you know,
the two hundred and ten pounds from this city, from
this high school.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
My number. But that's me, you like, no, that's not yeah,
but he's winning a number that I want. What that Michigan?
I mean you signed? Come on?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
I used to call that identity theft you literally stole.
You can use their picture, their name, their image, you
can use their number, you can use everything about them.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Believe they can't get paid.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
And they went too far for too long, and now
the over compensation and here we are where again it's
the wild wild West. All they had to do was
back then. Everybody comes into these elite programs, big schools.
You get thirty thousand dollars next year, forty. They didn't
want the kids to get anybody and get there the
ones making money, Blood, sweat and tears, injuries, nicked up
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for life.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
It's a trash talking Tuesday tomorrow, isn't it? Looking forward
to that. I've been holding on some things I need
to trash you about. Brother. You ready for that? I'm ready?
I can't wait. Yeah, we'll have some fun with that.
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Speaker 2 (01:26):
We'll do that.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You got another NBA story, you know, with the NBA
regular season, over the moves, coaches whack general managers. David
Griffin down in New Orleans, who was win Cleveland right
when Lebron was there?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Right, Yeah, he got whacked, he did.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And there's a lot of stuff going on there, a
lot of injuries, a lot of just bad.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
They're just bad, the Pelicans.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
But the real question, and we already saw, I mean,
Shams is already reporting that Joe Dumarsho of course led
to Pistons as their president general manager to a championship
beat the Lakers in two thousand.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And four, had a great run about five six years. Yeah, yeah, no,
it was. It was definitely a run. And they went
to the was it six years? They went to the
conference final and they and they went.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Back to back to the to the U four five championship,
lost in seven games to the Spurs.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
The next year team that was a real team and
he and he put that together, he really did.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But anyway, so uh, it's not official or anything, but
that's the talk that he's the leading candidate, and Joe
is from New Orleans, so that would be coming home
for him.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
He works for the league now.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Uh, but just imagine if it's Joe Dumars or anybody
and you're taking over that job as the general manager.
Your big task, Kelvin is what do you do? Do
you keep Zion and build around him or do you
(02:57):
get unload Zion and start all over?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I mean that to me. You have to take a
look at both. And I gotta be honest. And we've
talked about him before. When he plays unstoppable, he's actually
missed more games than he's played in his NBA career,
which is incredible for a young guy.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But he has.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
If I'm in charge, I'm ziggy and Zion the way
Dallas sent Luca Packett, I am on my I'm done
with Zion And you know what, he might come back
and wind up being a great player for somebody or whatever.
But I think he needs a fresh start and needs
to move on, and it can't be in New Orleans
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because it just doesn't seem like he can get right.
Am I crazy to want to give up a talent?
Because when he plays, the numbers are there no.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Easy all Star, twenty five, eight and four all night
every night.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's easy on. So you hold on to him and
building around him.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I genuinely want to hold on to him and see,
you know, he like we've said, he's an All Star
when he plays.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
But here's the trouble.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
As a general manager, potentially, Joe Dumars will have to
wait and see. I have to be also, miss Cleo.
I gotta be a prophet. I gotta look ahead. I
gotta be able to prognostic kate on what is about
to happen. And sometimes in order to look in the future,
all I gotta do is look in the past. And
when I start to look in the past with Zion,
(04:31):
well here's the problem. Rob rookie year, twenty four games,
second year all right, sixty one, which is still low,
but sixty one, okay, here we go is an All Star,
didn't play a whole year in twenty one to twenty two,
comes back twenty two to twenty three All Star. But
he only played twenty nine games. But obviously you know
there it is. You got seventy the next and thirty
this year. You don't get healthier as you get older.
(04:56):
Your body doesn't become more durable when you get older.
And if they're having issues already, then I have to
start to look ahead as a general manager, say this
is probably going to be an issue, and I look
at somebody, not the same Bill, but guys who are big,
big bodied.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I look at Joel Embiid.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I look at Blake Griffin was spectacular four a handful
of season, then just started to break down and break
down and break down. It was never the same and
it had to be a spot up, three point shooter,
and it just never worked out. And I start to
get concerned, and I have to start to explore, who's
got a first round pick for me, a few first round, two,
three first rounds, and your star player or one of
(05:36):
your really good players, because if I'm gonna have to
if I want to win, I might have to just
blow this whole thing up. Brandon Ingram, gone, Zion, gone,
start over, start fresh. It didn't work out. You thought
you had a big three and CJ. McCollum, brandon Ingram
and Zion. You thought you had your big three. It
didn't work And I have to absolutely start making calls.
(05:57):
What you got for me two first round, three first
rounds and like I said, that a really good player,
because I have to start building for the future, because
I can't think he's gonna get healthy, rob, Why do
I think he's only gonna start Oh, now he's gonna
start playing. And now he's gonna play seventy five games
the most he's played at seventy.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Before that, it was sixty one.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Because what they might say that when the pushback would
be well, Joel Embach started his career not playing well
and he wound up winning an MVP. Right, yeah, okay,
so there was an example. I'm just saying, Oh, I know,
but I'm gonna use that same example. Say Joel embiid
has played under fifty percent. I think it's around like
forty seven percent of the games he's he was supposed
to play, and I can't. I can't live with that
(06:38):
as a GM because it's not that you're not good,
not that you're not great.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I literally can't do that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I'm building a team around you or a couple of
guys night in, night out, and if you're giving me
sixty eight seventy two, Okay, I get it, right, I
get it, But you're giving me thirty forty. If you're
Joel embi thirty forty for your zion, I can't do that.
I can't even sell tickets because people start to get
frustrated every time I go to the game.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
He ain't here right. No, I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And that's why you're probably right as far as a
fresh start and.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Just but you gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And I remember in Detroit obviously I was there during
that run. And and Joe Dumore has always said a
quote that I'll never forget, and I thought it was
perfect because a lot of times gms, when they draft people,
they don't want to prove say that they're wrong. You
know what I mean, Like, oh, I got it wrong,
So I gotta do whatever I can to make this
work so that they can't say I picked somebody wrong.
(07:32):
Joe was always willing to trade. He traded a number
of picks, remember that he had, and.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
He got burned a couple of times. He got rid
of some good guys. But but he wasn't right.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And and his quote was, it's not about being right,
it's about getting it right.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And that's where this comes in.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
If he were to get the job, and you got
to figure out like, like he doesn't have that onus
about having David Griffin was the one.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Who drafted trying to get right for this franchise. That's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So I understand, and there'll be people who will be
upset and I can have a star.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
How can you get get rid of a star like that?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And it all makes sense, But dude, I think his
time is just it's it's played out there.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I'm with you, dude.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I don't think all of a sudden he's gonna be
healthy and play every game and then see that scoring
average state the same in a handful of games rather
than a full season.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I'm not convinced.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Zion needs to be your number two, maybe even three.
And what I mean is he might be more talented
then you're one or your two, but you have to
have a guy where he can be the power Gasolt
to your Kobe, you know what I mean, where he
can be Hey, I'm here. I'm your Chris Boss to
your d Wade in the bron And maybe I'm more
talented than your two. But I'm gonna give you fifty
(08:51):
sixty five games. But you because you can't rely on him,
and I can't build a franchise and I can't settle
a fan base a guy who plays thirty games one year.
This year, twenty four games, another twenty nine years. Oh
and by the way, didn't play an entire year in
twenty one twenty twenty two. So what I literally can't
sell you that.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
If I do the math, one, two, three, four, five,
six is eight and then they's supposed to been in
like four hundred plus games.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He's had an opportunity to play. He's only playing two
hundred and fourteen, right, That's what I'm saying, Like he
has played so few.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And the other thing, too, is is he really box
office anymore?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He came out of the elite, out of college, one.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Of the biggest prospects, like like like all the talk
was about Zion.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
He got the signature to shoe with jordans Man brand.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Thang out, I know ever want to say, like your
shoes many shoes about to blow up. I didn't literally
men blow the shoe up.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
But that whole thing, like, is there really marketing around him?
Is it?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Like he to me seems like an afterthought, not the
numbers I'm talking about him as the players is an
afterthought to all these other younger players, Like and he's
twenty four, he'll be twenty five.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Here you know, I think it's July. It gets late early.
He's started saying it gets late early.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
To your point, star players, And I'm not even talking
about the obvious ones who have Q ratings that are
through the roof. And it's Steph Steph and the Lebrons
and Kd's and all that yo kics young players, you know,
the ants to John morants, the Tatums, you know, the
the Donovan Mitchell's, the SGA's. I mean, he's he's behind
a lot of them. He might even be behind the
(10:32):
tray youngs. Maybe even obviously Wimby like Luca, who's only
what everyone knows this one, so everyone knows it is Wimby.
So he's starting to be an afterthought. And it's sad
because he's spectacular. But again, from your body's gonna betray you.
It's not gonna get healthier, You're not. I just in
all that weight. Man, he's been doing this since he
was a kid. All that weight, all that dude, your
(10:53):
body only has so many jumps. Your body only has
so many cuts and jumps and dives and all that.
And especially when you're carrying that much weight and you
jump out of the roof and you're dunking on everybody.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's a lot. It's a lot on a torque, and
the way he plays, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Dude, And I just, I just I have to start
to explore who can give me a great deal. I'm
not gonna do it for anything. I'm not doing it
just to give up anything. But who can give me
a great deal that I feel like it's an off
or I can't refuse?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
All right?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine is really simple.
You get the job as general manager of the New
Orleans Pelicans.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
What are you doing.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Keeping Zion and rebuilding around him, going to get players
that compliment him?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Or are you shipping them off the.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
First banana boat and sending him somewhere else and then
replenishing your roster with new players and say we're gonna
go in a different direction. Where are you keep up Zion?
Dumping Zion? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. It
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Speaker 2 (13:32):
All right?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
We're talking about the Zion Williamson, who is a spectacular player,
is amazing to watch when he plays. The problem, man,
is he'll never play. And so what do you do
if you're the new GM and the rumors out there
could be Joe Dumars formerly with the Pistons.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Do you move on? Do you say I cannot let
a star go? Do you stick with them?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Or you say it's time to go bye bye and
send them packing with some Beignet's and some gumbo eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Who we got?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
All right, Craig in Houston. You're on the couple, Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Hey, good evening, fellows.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Thanks for taking my call, no doubt, brother, Hey, and I.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Want to start man today we laid uh, we laid
Big George to rest man. So the rest in peace,
Big George foreman man He in Houston. So I just
wanted to send that out, Yes, yeah, absolutely, But yeah, Rob,
you got to give me a pool pool o Zion.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Man, Man, you know what, I'm the pooh pooh king
and I'm pooh poohing Zion Williamson.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Thank you, bro, thank you. I mean all that is
spectacular and this and that we hadn't seen enough of
the cat. We don't know if he's spectacular or not,
you know, and all that it and quite honestly, this
whole never seen before.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Come on, man, this is Charles Barkley.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Charles Barkley was as big and explosive as this cat
when he came out. Man, Charles was the truth boy. Man. Yeah,
he can't stay healthy, man and nobody and now the
killer is he's starting with the off the court crap.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
No, I know, and that's the other part, all right, Craig,
hold on, this is just for you.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm the pooh poo king, Thank you, buddy. Ain't nothing
like a good old cackle.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
How about Randy in New Orleans join the couple of
Fox Sports Rader.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
He's front center, Randy, what's up?
Speaker 8 (15:15):
Uncle Randy?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Kenada? This guy now, yo yo.
Speaker 9 (15:19):
It's harder to get on this show than it is
to get Zion on the court.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Man.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
I gotta I gotta be number one in all, Mark,
It's good to hear from y'all, man, But I just
say this, if you die, you know, I'm down here
in the city, man, and you're hearing more about Zion's
personal life than you hearing about his on the court
life going that's happening. It's time to move out of town.
I just say this.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
If Joe Dumars does get the job, which looks like
he's doing, it's time to taking him up for having
many first round picks that you could get, having many
young on the verge players that you could get, It's
time to start from zero, and it kind of re
building this thing from the bottom up. It said it
because I heard the other call of Stee He was
(16:07):
somewhat like Charles Barkley.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
Ive got to disagree, man, Charles Bucklet please right.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
He was saying. He was saying, yeah, Randy, thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Pharah in Michigan, you're in the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
What's happening?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
What up?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Rob?
Speaker 10 (16:27):
What up?
Speaker 11 (16:27):
Kevin Washington?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yo?
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Along?
Speaker 8 (16:30):
What are you doing man?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
We're doing great. Thanks for calling. We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
What a do.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
So I'm here and I totally agree it is time
to trade him.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
He's been there for five years.
Speaker 12 (16:40):
Unlike other players like Charles Barkley, when he came in
the league, he didn't have a vet like Motes belonged
to a ride him and teach him how to be
a pro. And he's been there five years and.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
He hasn't played. He played what maybe what one and
a half full years the five years he's been there,
he's missed the full season.
Speaker 12 (16:55):
It's time to go, and you can't keep seeking money into.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
A bottomless pit.
Speaker 12 (17:00):
I wish them all the best.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I hope he starts to the Baybamba drama that it's time.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
It's time to go.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
It's hard, it's hard to argue with that.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I mean, it's not one season, two seasons. I mean
they've gave it, given him all the time in the world.
You got to sell somebody to a fan base. Rob
I gotta be like, hey, come see Blake tonight. And
if I can't do that night at night, out what
I got? What can I do?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
How about Sean in Sacramento, You're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
What's up Sean Yoh?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
My uncle from another mother, cousin, Kelvy, and my brother's
behind the board, what up Ali would say? Man, Look,
I want to make a few quick points, man number one.
People were saying the same thing to the Sacramento Kings
when it came to the market with the Marcus cousin.
My man was putting up amazing numbers on a bad team,
but kept getting hurt. And the year they decided not
to sign him is the year my man's career came
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to it. And you know, not not to brag about
or anything like that, but you know guys that tell
you that they're injury prone, listen to him. And my
other point about that, Man, if Dumars the Great does
get that job, what better GM to build a team
without a superstar than the guy that put together those
grit and grind, those tough minded, those defensive minded pistons.
You know, y'all both know very well about how great
(18:12):
they see we could put together. Man, So I then
go get them picks for z Ion, get Joe Dumars
in that front office. All he does is magic. I
wish we kept them longer out here in Sacramento. You
see what comments we got going on now with our team,
and let's see what happens. Man, they got too good
of a coach and too good of a corps because
that little point guard man, if you're gonna start anybody
with a good defensive team, you need him. So I
mean go ahead and let the ion go on. More
(18:34):
poop poo from the poop poo king on my behalf
brother out.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I hear you, Sean, I'll be a Sacramento coming up
next weekend, not this weekend, to go see the A's
and the White Side. Yep, Casey and Oregon. You're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Casey?
Speaker 10 (18:51):
Casey?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Sorry?
Speaker 8 (18:52):
Hey Rod? Heck Calvin next protecting my call?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yes? How are you?
Speaker 11 (18:57):
Good man?
Speaker 8 (18:57):
So every professional athlete's to ask themselves this question early
in their career. Do I love the sport? Do I
want to be an old time great and win championships?
Or do I love what the sport can do for me? Unfortunately,
for Pelicans fans, Zion love what the sport can do
for him and his family. You move on, tear it
(19:20):
down and rebuild.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
All right, playing No, we'll get this last call here.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I do think there is an element of burnout these
guys who literally all they've done is play basketball. Their
whole life for baseball for but it's all I've done
since I was three. It's all I've done. And when
you start to hear these stories a lot of these guys, man,
I got burned out what it took for me to toll.
It took mentally, spiritually, physically, Like it was a lot.
I mean, you do start to worry about that for
some players, not all, for some.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Josh in Santa Barbara, you're in the odd Couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
What's up, Josh?
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Good eating gentlemen, how are you guys?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Great? We appreciate you calling in and listening to the
Odd Couple.
Speaker 11 (19:58):
Yeah, I'm gonna drive home every day.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
I hope.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
I think you guys hit it on the head trade him,
But there's plenty of good trade partners out there who
are kind of maybe desperate enough to make that move,
that have a good internal core, some good stability. Maybe
he bounces back in a new place and realizes that
he needs to turn it around if he wants to
save his career. So I was thinking places that you
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know they need something like that, that have a lot
of assets, or if they have a bad playoff run
like Taglo Lakers playm out. Maybe they make a deal.
Phoenix is in trouble, they need to make a deal.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yep.
Speaker 11 (20:34):
I could see san Antonio maybe wants that guy. They've
got tons of assets. Maybe they turn him around the Warriors.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
It's endless.
Speaker 11 (20:42):
You can get the best deal you can and maybe
he figures it out as that second or third option.
But maybe he is the most talented guy on a team.
Like you said, I love it. I think it's really exciting.
I hope they do it, and I hope it's a good,
big story.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
All right, you know what, we'll have to wait and see.
I mean, are some teams out there who have a
bunch of stock piled some picks. I mean if the
Celtics still have a bunch of picks as well, and
you may be, you never know, get another place where
he does. He's not relied on Rod where he has
to be the guy. Now what you mean, he's just
second or third and then all of a sudden you
can make a run where he's been able to wrest
a bit. And now if he's your second and third option,
(21:16):
all right, we got Zion as our second to third.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You love it.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
We have Dan wokin getting ready to join us here
in a little bit national columnsts with USA today.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Uh talk some draft with him and some other things.
Do that in the moment. First we gotta get you
set up with what's trending with Steve the sacred.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
Hey, Steve, Yeah, happy birthday to ya, Happy birthday, hot Bee,
birthday to Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Steve.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
If you never knew you are an honorary black man
today right now, because you have to sing this at
a black birthday in my life.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I don't give it that. We're gonna see the normal one.
Then you're gonna get hit with the Stevie.
Speaker 13 (21:55):
Ye Steve, Steve, we got we got two yeah, Sagan,
one blind one death.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Whow that was funny? How did you say that about Kelvin?
Whoa Steevie somewhere?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
The funny is the best stories, by the way, are
this Stevie's stories? People have Shack. I'll say it in
ten seconds. Shacks is I've got into elevator and I
got into it and Stevie wonderday was in the same
condo and I get an elevator.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Stevie goes, big fellow, how you doing? How you see me? Stevie?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
He literally was like, how did he know it was me?
Anthony Anderson had some great stories. The stories about there
are the absolute best.
Speaker 13 (22:32):
There was an award show once where Andy Williams was presenting,
but it was by satellite to Stevie Wonder and they
had a problem with the connection that he actually said
on the air, Stevie, can you see me not kidding?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Stevieyeh I. Usually he has all the fun with it too.
Speaker 13 (22:48):
Well, no fun for the Red Sox tonight. They're down
fifteen to one at Tampa Bay in the bottom of
the eighth inning. The Yankees had those four solo homers
earlier and still lead for to one over the Royals.
Top of the knife, the Tigers and Trek Schooble up
nine to nothing at Milwaukee in the bottom of the
seventh inning. Mets lead three to one at the Twins
in the bottom of the seventh of Minnesota loses, they'll
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be five and twelve this year. And the Cardinals are
up seven to nothing on the Astros in the bottom
of the sixth inning. Three finals. Atlanta was leading eight
nothing in the fifth eight four the final at Toronto,
Austin Riley two homers five RBIs Paul Skeene's the win
in Pittsburgh ten to three over Washington, skiing six innings,
one earned run allowed, and the Giants were down three
(23:30):
to nothing in the first then got six runs top
of the second wound up winning ten to four at Philadelphia.
San Francisco on the road eight and two so far
about to start up Cubs at San Diego. The Padres
are ten at zero at home. They just pitched three
straight shutouts against Colorado and the last place Rockies at
three and twelve. Start up at Dodger Stadium in a
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half an hour LA in the last week and a
half three and six record after the eight to no start.
Dodger Rai fielder Tasker Hernan is out due to illness.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
This evening.
Speaker 13 (24:02):
The Phoenix Suns fired coach Mike Budenholzer after one season.
The Pelicans fired vice president David Griffin. The NBA Playing
Tournament starts Tuesday with a couple of games. Purdue All
American guard Braden Smith's will return for his senior season.
In the w NBA Draft, which is ongoing, Paige Becker's
Connecticut was the number one overall selection to Dallas, which
(24:23):
won the lottery last November.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Back to you, all right, Steve, enjoyed the rest of
your birthday night. Thank you, sir, thank you.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
It is the Odd Couple comingy live on a tire
Reck dot Com study from the tire Reck dot Com
Studios on a Magic City Monday. We are joined now
by Dan Wolkin, national columnists with USA Today. Dan Wolkin
on Twitter aka X Dan.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
What's up? Brother? How you doing so good? Dan? Can
you still be woke during this time? I'm just asking.
Speaker 12 (24:51):
I'm not touching that one. Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Somebody right now saying are we the see? All right? Dan, Well,
let's talk about the Tennessee situation. How about about that?
Go ahead and say his name, Nico. I'm not even professional,
say go ahead, day you bail him out?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
But Dan, I don't see any issue on either side.
He asked for a lot of money and they said thanks,
but no thanks, Like, is there a problem?
Speaker 12 (25:26):
Well, yeah, there's a problem. The problem is that we
don't know exactly what was in his contract to be
at Tennessee with the collective their how much they were
paying him, what the contract said.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (25:40):
We haven't seen it, so I don't want to speculate.
But Listen, you're at the end of spring practice. Tennessee's
made plans for the year based on him being the
quarterback of their football team, and for him to come
in at the end of spring practice when honestly, he
hasn't been great. You know, he's been okay, Like they've
(26:02):
been a good team, and he's had a decent career
so far in college, but nothing amazing. And for him
to say, well, you know, I need more money, I
think it's just indicative of the fact that there's really
no rules right now around college sports and everyone's just
winging it. Everyone's trying to get what they can get,
(26:24):
which which is fine, but you do need some order
to it. But do you need a little bit of structure.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
To do Who is going to give structure? First, Dan,
Here's where I'm going to push back on this structure.
Who's given this?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
First of all, the colleges didn't want to pay the kids,
So you can't legislate money that's not even your money
that people are donating. Number Two, coaches walk out on
kids all the time when when they're ready to go
on to bigger and better situations, and don't I just
don't understand who's going to legislate the people who for
(27:00):
for one hundred years told kids, have you got a
free pizza? We're gonna take away your scholarship? Are those
the people now, I mean seriously, who are going to
legislate what money they should get.
Speaker 12 (27:12):
Well, I'm not gonna sit here and defend the NCUBA.
I've been critical of the NCUBA for a long time
on this, and I've always felt that college athletes who
are keep part of this business should be paid as
if they are integral to the popularity of college sports,
which they are. But the problem is, you know, the
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the NBA, major League Baseball, of the NFL, they all
have collective bargaining agreements that set the rules of the road,
and that is to the benefit not only of the players,
but of the teams as well, and I think that
would be helpful in this situation in college, but you
don't have that because the university presidents don't want to
(27:58):
consider these guys employees, and so they don't want to
do collective bargaining, and so what you have is everybody
being a free agent every single year. And I don't
think that's a great system for anybody, including the players,
although some of them are making a lot of money
off of it. I think a lot of guys get
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into bad situations, and I think when you look at
it now, Niko Iamaliava is not even going to make
as much money as he was going to make a
Tennessee this year.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, it was supposed to make. I think it's two
million dollars. Now we don't know what's going to happen.
They rolled the dice and he lost. I mean, that's
what I think. He thought that they had to have them,
and so that I understand.
Speaker 12 (28:40):
But that's what I'm saying is a collective bargaining agreement.
It's not just to protect the people paying the money.
It's to protect the players and to protect the should
be a union.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
They tried to do that question.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
You remember that, Dan, They tried it and the judge
wouldn't allow them to go forward. They do need somebody
to protect them as a whole.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
The exact seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
There's nobody in who has their best interest and they
can't do it on their own piece me a one
guy at a time. So Dan, I agree with that.
But they tried to do it, and when it was
shut down like these. The schools want to legislate stuff,
but they don't want to be on the on the
hook for stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
And do you agree with that?
Speaker 12 (29:24):
Oh, the role that the university presidents, the schools, the
athletic departments have played in where we're at right now,
that's indisputable. They've been not very they haven't had any
foresight about what was going to happen. They've tried to
bury their head in the sand. They don't really get
it still, in my opinion, and they their whole strategy
(29:47):
has been to run to Congress to try to pass
an anti trust bill that gives them protection from being sued.
And I understand why they're doing that, but I don't
think that solves the fundamental issue here. And I think
they would all be better off if they just acknowledged reality.
These guys are professional athletes, and so if they're professional athletes,
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then you need to treat them and negotiate with them
and pay them like professional athletes, and then you can
set the rules of the road, and that is to
everybody's benefit in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Dan Wilkin, National Columns USA Today. So then what's the
straw that breaks the camel back?
Speaker 12 (30:23):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
You know, when the biggest name in cost football does something,
Is it we find out some sleazy situations happening somewhere?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Like what do you think change?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Is it where all of a sudden we have some
type of agreement or some type of set rules or
in their stipends or something.
Speaker 12 (30:40):
Yeah, I don't know exactly. Look, I think what Tennessee
did is actually probably going to embolden maybe some schools.
Some coaches to say to guys who want to come
in and ask for more money, like no, Like, if
you want to go into the portal and test your
luck and see what you can get, go right head,
(31:00):
but we're not going to do that. You have a
contract with us, and we expect you to fulfill that contract.
I think more schools should be and will be willing
to do that. But in terms of the overall structure,
they're still trying to lobby converse to get a bill.
They feel like it's a possibility. I think I'm a
lot more skeptical of that because just our government has
(31:22):
a lot more going on right now, and I don't
think this has been a particularly high priority for them.
So I don't know what is the thing that's going
to cause them to accept reality that they need to
come up with a radically different structure here that allows
them to negotiate with these guys and to at least
(31:43):
you have some control over what's going on. But you know,
I do think the fact that you've had the situation
with Nico does maybe get people's attention in a way
that they didn't have it before.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
All Right, he is Dan Wilkin, Dan, thank you so much.
We appreciate you taking time.
Speaker 12 (32:03):
Appreciate it, guys.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
All right, Yeah, it's gonna be interesting at some point.
I asked him that he's expecting that answer. But something's
gonna break the back something, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And if enough people you how you scare players is
by doing what they just did with Nico and said thanks,
but no thanks, And then he has other players have
to be careful to say if they back out of
a deal, am I gonna get a deal somewhere else?
Or they let him sit on the sidelines. Now, if
that happens to a big time player or a decent
player was making money, that would that would scare some
(32:32):
players into not.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Doing I still blame n C double A.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
All they had to do for the last thirty years
or so, people been, you know, clamoring and crying for this.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
They didn't want to do it.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
It's just, Hey, everybody gets fifty thousand and you get
a ten thousand rais or next year, sophomore year, junior year.
So you know what I mean, everybody happy? Are you
getting some money? They're allowed to have a couple bucks,
are cool? Or just use your likeness something to the
idea that they just didn't do anything. Then they had
to overcompensate. Now it's kind of the wild wild West,
and here we are. I'll blame them all right on
the way last Call eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
And your boy Draymond, he did something. It's very Draymond
of himself.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well he did you know what, He got more votes
for Defensive Player of the Year after his offensive performance.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I think we'll talk about that, Dick.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
He defended himself, right, Yes, So I wonder if that's
on the podcast, right. I'm just asking that's a good point.
We have to might have to find that out. So
we'll get to that in just a bit. Before we
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Speaker 1 (36:05):
Hey, you know I took one hundred singles with me
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Speaker 2 (36:12):
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Speaker 1 (36:31):
And we should say eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
If you want to get in for a last call.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox Draymond Green did
something that made.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Me so mad. He played. Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Not only did he play, he played himself. He had
a chance to tie the gag. She was at to
go up one with the layout. It was a big
play and they drove up a great play. Boom drop,
some step drops him a dime right under the basket. Oh,
easy layout, right. Instead he does this new modern day
NBA where I have to draw foule and.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
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Speaker 4 (37:06):
He jumps literally backwards into the defender and just throws
the ball up to try to draw file. Man, if
you don't put that ball in the hole, And that's
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Levine going to shoot a Tyler hero going to shoot
the three instead of going for a layup. Remember that now, Draymond,
they're taking me off. Man, it's new. Sometimes it's modern.
I hate to be an old man on the couch
number screaming where is he now?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Is he gonna do a podcast about that miss blown
lay up in a big situation, or instead of going
around trying to campaign for Defensive Player of the Year,
Maybe he should be on the layup line, man, Maybe
you should be worried about working on that instead of
going out trying to dumb.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Campaign is strong on people. All right, he's strong on that. Layup.
All right, we got a call, last call.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
Here's the.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Last last call.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Time on the on.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
All right, let's get you all.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
We had that?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
All right, last call? Who got there?
Speaker 13 (38:09):
You go?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
It is Rodney. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports rating. You are the last call, Rodney.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Hey, tell us what's going out?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
What's up? Rodney?
Speaker 12 (38:19):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (38:19):
KEEVI are you clavoyant man?
Speaker 8 (38:21):
Because listen, I just said.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
To this book right, and it's called uh, it's based
on a traffic stop.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
It's called driving Will Black, a memoir of troll filing. Right,
So this guy got he got stopped by the cops
back in ninety nine, and he wrote a book on it.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
It's on Amazon.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
His name is Keusin Zillips.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
So anyway, he got a part of it where he
played basketball, the best player in Minnesota back in eighty one.
He was mister basketball, Red Overton.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Great player.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
I guess and he guess what you said.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Is David pay These guys a little.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Some way back way back, they would not have these issues.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
No doubt, about it. I mean, they have put themselves.
They had a chance in this situation. And even when
this thing finally came to a head, thanks for the
call to appreciate money, go get that book to they
didn't want to do it. They didn't want to do it.
And that's why you're where you are due. It's let
me tell you something, say this ain't rocket science.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
When you got kids, their lives are ruined because they're
deemed as watch out as works.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You deem them as bad guys.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
They're crooked, their thugs because they use their own likeness
to just go sign a few things and to get
some tattoos.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
But don't you real prior to them right now, they're
bad guys. Don't you remember like the idea that the
colleges or whatever are selling their their.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
I always said that was identity theft, right, And probably
the worst was the college football game video game.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
They they went out of business rather than pay the kid.
Think about that. They went out a bit. They were like,
oh no we're not paying them. We'll close it down
rather than cut them in. And then they came back,
you know, after after all lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah, but they shut it down six to you know,
the two hundred and ten pounds from this city, from
this high school.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
My number. But that's me, you like, no, that's not yeah,
but he's winning a number that I want. What that Michigan?
I mean you signed? Come on?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
I used to call that identity theft you literally stole.
You can use their picture, their name, their image, you
can use their number, you can use everything about them.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Believe they can't get paid.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
And they went too far for too long, and now
the over compensation and here we are where again it's
the wild wild West. All they had to do was
back then. Everybody comes into these elite programs, big schools.
You get thirty thousand dollars next year, forty. They didn't
want the kids to get anybody and get there the
ones making money, Blood, sweat and tears, injuries, nicked up
(40:59):
for life.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
It's a trash talking Tuesday tomorrow, isn't it? Looking forward
to that. I've been holding on some things I need
to trash you about. Brother. You ready for that? I'm ready?
I can't wait. Yeah, we'll have some fun with that.
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