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Speaker 3 (01:47):
But let's stick with the NBA here and the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
We got the play in has been going on and
now we got the playoffs officially going to start, and
numbers have come out and Adam Silver tried to with
some lipstick and earrings on the pig and was happy
that the ratings only went down kelvin two percent. That's
nationally the scary numbers overall down thirteen percent this year
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TV ratings and locally there was a story out some
team saw fifty percent drops. Yeah, untell that which is
just a crazy number. And you're ready for the cities
that had that big of a drop. Yeah, these are
kind of crazy. Chicago and Miami, like, these are places
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where they've won championships, they got a basketball tradition, and
those two cities have fifty percent drops on local broadcasts.
So there's a lot of fat there to chew and
I'm just wondering with the play in how that goes.
You know, it's been around for a while.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Our people.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Is the NBA in a good place? Cause I don't
think it is. And I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Okay, I think it has devalued the regular season.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Too many teams to play in. Everybody's under five hundred.
What was the regular season for?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Like?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's my issues.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So you're telling me not to watch or not pay
attention because everybody's gonna make the playoffs anyway, I don't
even understand it. Twenty of the thirty teams make the playoffs,
So we're playing eighty two games to eliminate ten teams?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Is that what we're doing?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Why not put everybody in and just have a tournament
like all thirty teams. If that's what you want to do,
they're probably afraid of add and people really won't watch.
I think that you gotta make the regular season worth something.
I gotta pay attention. Where's my team? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
This big matchup?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
If you're a certain amount of teams with twenty teams
making the playoffs, even the Suns as bad of a
year as they had they had a chance to make
the playoffs. Remember that, Like, they weren't totally out of
it and they were bad.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I'm a guy who was a big NBA guy, not
just as a guy who covered the sport since nineteen
eighty seven, but somebody who watched basketball the entire game
from too nothing. You know, I watched all the matchups,
all the games. A lot of games guys are playing
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aren't playing, And I know they would talk about cracking
down on load management Kelvin. There's still a lot of
games where guys don't play and they'll say something's wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
With them or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But you know, it's Oh they had a back to
back last night on the road, and he's taken off.
And I just think that it's a turnoff for fans,
I really do, And I get it. It was worse
in the beginning of the season. Remember it was down
the national We were like down twenty or thirty percent. Yeah,
so where are you on the league? And I think
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it has still has issues.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I think it it, along with anything right now, is struggling.
If you're talking in the league, if you're talking cable television,
if you talk oh, let's not talk Hollywood in the
movie industry, man, they going through it right now. So
that's a I think that's a big thing. A lot
of folks are trying to figure out, as we've entered
into this streaming social media era, how the heck do
I take this product, this service, these goods and then
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make it translate social media wise, streaming wise.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
This digital era, this digital space.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
So I do think the league clearly was struggling, but
I think a couple of things have helped the league.
Number one, Luca. That was a nobody saw that trade coming.
I mean everywhere I was going, there were conversations. Everybody's
watching the games, everybody's talking about everybody's blown away. It's
leading all conversations in all sports. If it's a sports show,
that is what they've talked about the last couple of months.
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So I think that spiced things up, almost to the
tune of the people cracking joke saying Adam Silver was
on the bat phone like, hey, spy, some things up,
get rid of Luca, and so I definitely think that helped.
Would also think help was having a couple of young
teams all of a sudden be good, right, Oklahoma City,
You're like, oh man, this is a fun team to
you know, kind of keep an eye on the resurgence
of New York. Not that they've been great, but just
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the fact that they're, you know, around being the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So I think you had that.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I think a team like a market like Detroit as
you know that when they get going, it's pretty fun,
not sucking tripling their win total that is very helpful.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And lastly, a couple other things, Rob, I think to
keep note of.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
You have the potential this postseason to finally have the
passing of the Guard, or at least the big great
beginnings of it. If SGA likely the MVP gets to
the finals, if SGA were to beat Lebron, if SGA
were to beat Steph, and you start to say, oh,
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he is now one of the If Aunt were to
do what we thought he might do this year and
play better, but he were to beat the Lakers, he
were to talk smack to Lebron, he said it. He
already said, I want to be the Lebron has been
one of the best players ever. I want to be
the one to put him in the casket and get
him out of here. And so if you start to
have these young whipper snappers who want to talk smack,
who love.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It, who want to own it, and John Morant.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
All of a sudden the Grizzlies were able to get
in the playoffs and make some noise again. I think
that's good that you can say the young boys are here,
the Pistons are claiming it, Kate Cunningham saying I want
to be the absolute best player in the league. These
are things that can give you hope. To me and lastly, Rob,
I do think we have Mark Steinol. We had a
couple of people who were social, were people who understand
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the money of this all.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
One thing we gotta look at.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
The NBA is dwarfing other leagues when it comes to streaming,
when it comes to highlights, when it comes to social media.
I was looking at some numbers here, Rob, So when
you're looking at let's say and stat the NFL as
an entire league, which is the biggest by far league
has thirty one million followers, MLB, which is obviously a
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massive league, twelve followers.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Steph Curry himself has fifty eight million.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Lebron James had one hundred and fifty nine million followers.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Pat Mahomes is the best player.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
You can argue Lamar Jackson if you want to argue,
you're talking about Lamar Jackson with four million followers, Patrick
Mahoonmes with seven on round.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But those people watch the games though.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
So what I'm going with this is, as we heard
Scott Boris on Scott Boris, the great, maybe the best
agent in all the sports, said one thing that the
NBA is doing right. They mastered the streaming, They've mastered
the digital space, and MLB is behind that. The NFL
is trying to catch up with that. And so I
do think some of these numbers are slightly skewed in
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that NBA is the younger of all the sports. It's
the youngest fan base. They know where their fans are.
So I do take these numbers with a massive grain
of salt, maybe a tea spoon of salt, because I
do think they know where their audience is. A younger
audience is consuming differently than maybe you or I are.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, I don't agree with that. I still think that.
I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I'm not, but I'm saying, you can't tell me that
the NBA is sitting there going, oh, we're happy it
had Luca and Lebron joined together, and T and T
still saw a seven percent drop.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
The same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
ESPN was flat, Like as far as their numbers, that
that should have boosted it, that that should have helped,
don't you think when you have stars of that magnitude
in the same I.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Mean that's the last month and a half, two months,
So I totally get what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
All I'm saying is like, like, I'm not saying that
they have to accept TV break records or whatever, but
you gotta be disheartened as how bad that people stop
watching or decided that they would rather not. And I
understand looking at social media and watching a one minute
video or or a dunk or something, but that is
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not Ultimately, they make their bread and butter on what
they can do when they sell TV rights and they
just got a new deal and all that, but you
gotta be careful that you don't make it so that
people don't feel compelled to watch.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
And that's that's what I'm talking about, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Like, yes, all that other stuff is great, I'm not
I'm not don't got my head in the in the
in the sam all great, But I'm talking about where
you set the league up where you're not paying attention,
or the league what's happening during the regular season isn't important,
or you're waiting until uh after football season to watch
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your first NBA Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Like that?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Listen, those are the things that you don't want.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You're like cause it used to be Christmas Day, which
all right, I give it, that's a month and a
half two months in the season. But now it's like,
let's getting pushed past All Star break? When do I
want to get into it? And so I think that's
why Rob I'll said this again quickly. I think this
is why this postseason will be big. Meaning if these
young stars show up, if there's beef in a good way,
like meaning competitive beef, and there's rivalries, if they're smashed
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like it becomes engaging, like all these young guys really
want it and they're gonna, you know, be the new
carriers of the torch. If you're just there, they don't
really care, no real fire nobody, then I agree. But
these playoffs can really charge things up to where you
can say SGA and the Okay City, Oklahoma see thunder,
are they here to stay at man and amped it
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up some you can say, Okay, New York is bat baby,
you can say the Pistons are back.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
This can be huge.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
They have to capitalize on it moving into the next season.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
In my opinion, yeah, I just I just feel like
the regular you gotta make the regular season mean something
that that's all that that's my that got you players, players,
you gotta you can't make it to where the regular.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Rivalries and beef helps with Yes, you know what, I
meant to have.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
The juice right, like, like there are games that you
want to see, But how many times do we turn
on games and nobody's playing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
So I have no argument with that. I have no argument.
That's the biggest argument. I mean, win be healthy.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
So you can say wimb going up against you know
ant Man, You're like, whoa, Okay, I'm gonna see that's I.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Want to watch that, right or you want to see
guys going to each other all right?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. And we're basically
here on the doorstep of the playoffs starting tomorrow. We
still got playing games today, but the playoffs, player playoffs,
and where is the league, you know, the ratings down
two percent, nationally, bigger, locally, bigger overall thirteen percent? Is
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the league in a good place? Do you like where
the league is? Do you not like it? Do you
like the play? And what do you like? What don't
you like? This is for your chance to chime in
on the NBA and if you still love it or
the NBA is still fantastic to you, tell us if
it's not, what don't you like and what would you
like to see fixed?
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Speaker 3 (14:19):
All right, Rob, what is it?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Just talking about
the NBA to start of the postseason and just where
are you?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Is the league in a good place?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
You're happy you got young players, you know, and maybe
a changing of the guard as you talked about, or no,
you're still unhappy with the load management and everybody making
the playoffs and all those other kind of things. So
let's take a temperature of NBA America. Let's start with
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Mark in Sacramento. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Mark?
Speaker 6 (14:54):
What's going on right then, mister Washington, you know I
was gonna call on that run.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I knew that as much. Did you watch NBA?
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Yeah, I think you fished I think you fished me
out on this one today.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
But uh uh. In my opinion, there's too there's a
couple of things going on here.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Number one, there's so much more to watch because of
you know.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
The environment just took how much more things you got
to choose? And I'm looking at my television now, I'm
getting lost trying to find stuff. There's so much more
to watch. That's number one. Number two as far as
comparing to football, First of all, football is the most
gambled gambled sport in the country by far as the gambling,
and it's the short and it's the shortest gambling season,
so of course it's been to be the most popular.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, when you have one. Yeah, there's no doubt, there's
no I say that all the time. If you took
all the sports and they all had sixteen games or
seventeen games, it would be different.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yes, that's that's true. Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
With with the last skip of the NBA, I can
say this for a fact, and you know this. I
can say in the last five years, and I think, well,
I you know this because it's been six years. I've
been calling going on seven, I've been calling you, and
I always talking about young players. The one thing I've
been telling you for the last five years, what Rob,
there's a group of young players coming that I hadn't
seen before this. That's that's going to grow. And I
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was liking it. And for five years we talked about it.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Well let's see, now you've seen this growing. Rob. We've
talked about SGA and man Darius Gone, we talked, we
talked about you guys the last four years.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Haven't we Robbed Absolutely? I remember you mentioned that man, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yeah, these are the guys who can grow up. And
what has to happen is there's there's a there's a
just up here going on. You see an era leaving
thirty eight, thirty nine to forty year old KD Steph Lebron,
you see the next era coming, so it's at the
same time.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Let me let me add to your point very often,
but it happened. Let me let me add to your point.
I think one thing we forget. I think you'll you'll
feel me on this. Guys historically were coming in at
twenty one Steph Curry, you know, played a bunch of years.
You got guys just you know, twenty one, twenty two,
twenty three. These guys are coming in at literally Cooper
Flag is gonna be coming at eighteen years old. These
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guys are coming at nineteen Jason Tatum and then so like.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
They're needing a three year, four year.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Process of getting it, understanding the game, and now boom,
I'm ready to go at twenty three, twenty four. Then
I sometimes think we forget and we're ready to throw
the talal in and we're forgetting about them because they're
so young entering the league.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Now here's what I will say about the young kids
coming in the league. Seniors happened.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Everything is changing, including the learning curve. We used to
have a patent. These kids living and grow up three
or four years. But what's happening here is these kids
are so talented, not just talented, they're learning the game faster,
so the learning curve is not as big as it
used to be. It's why I always say, yeah, used
to take four years for teams to get there. Now
I'm going wait a minute, if these young teams have
the right veterans, it doesn't take or used to get
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there anymore now say two. So there's touss going on,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Marsh, Thank you appreciate it. Casey and Oregon. You're on
the couple of Fox sportsuradio.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
What's up Casey, Hey, Rob Hey, Calvin h Yeah, I've
been wanting to talk talk to you guys about the
state of the NBA.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Man.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Some of my best memories.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
As a kid, well, when my dad took me and
my brothers to the early two thousand Portland Trailblazer games.
I got to see John Starts and Kerry Payton, right, Chet,
Jeff Dan Dundee, Alan Houston. It's so sad to me
what has happened to the NBA. It's just a complete joke.
The level of playing the product. It's terrible. I used
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to love how physical Dundee used to be. They got
to bring that back.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I hear you. Some people don't like but they don't
like the Eulympean style. You know what I mean of that.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
They gotta let them play a little bit too, Rod.
That's why his playoffs be interesting because they you know,
the roughs are out there. They're banning stuff, you know,
keeping stuff out of the game.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Tim in California, you're in the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
What's up? Tim?
Speaker 7 (18:49):
I don't know about Tim, but his Kim anyway, half
a good party, brother. I don't know. You don't like
the tough religion, but half a good party?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Who guys that I don't like talk religion?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Way?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
What am I anyway?
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Rob? But I sit on this Sunday anyway. You know
what I'm turned the load management. I'm tired of these
guys back to back. If they kept playing like the
good old days eighty two, they're making fifty to you
or sixty two. But you know what, let's shorting up
and let's take out this playing game because all they're
doing is playing and playing and playing. Or maybe we'll
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get in it. Is and anyway, the only way I
see it coming back if it's a Lakers Celtics this year,
if you want conference finals in the Calves and the
Celtics and and the Lakers, and okay see the old
and young and I'm out.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
All right, thanks, Cam, appreciate it. What about Chili, Tim,
he's in Atlanta? Go to church man know and you're
already couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
What's up? Chili?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (19:49):
What's up?
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Guys? How you doing to shooting Gray?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
How are you?
Speaker 9 (19:53):
I'm good man, Rob, you kind of hit it from me.
You know what you said, two points that you made.
I watched the Warriors Clippers game, and it meant two reasons,
and the two reasons you gave. First of all, I
saw Kawhi Leonard playing and he was playing good, and
he and Jane Harden and Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry,
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and it was like stars playing stars. You've got to
actually see these guys playing at their best. And the
second part was it meant something, and they played like
it meant something, and they're to me for me like
there you know the difference, So I may catch the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I watched the Clippers.
Speaker 9 (20:32):
They game because there'll be stars playing and then it's
they're playing for something. So somehow you got to make
the regular season mean, right.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
It has to mean something.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
Yeah, exactly, Chillie.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
And I with Chillie, I with you. I think that's
why rivalries are gonna be so important. But you know
what I mean, because if you get people, oh shoot,
it's gonna be a good game, they're gonna go out
it tonight. You look forward to that, appreciate all the calls. Everybody,
all right, just the boys, the Odd Couple, Robin Kelvic company.
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less than away Away?
Speaker 10 (21:14):
I know, man, I know, six days.
Speaker 11 (21:16):
Yeah, it's let me just set our discussion off tonight
like this just just folks got to understand, this is
not a astically great first round.
Speaker 10 (21:24):
In terms of true first round.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I was gonna say that that just doesn't have that
field to me, It doesn't that sets up to the surprises.
Speaker 10 (21:32):
Guys.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
I'm just telling you there you're gonna go, man, they
took that guy. Well, that's because it's not a great
first round draft. If you can't trade out, you got
to take somebody, just can't. You can't let the timer expire, you.
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Okay, So so yeah, goy, no, I was gonna say,
I mean you you mentioned trade house. That's I think
that's gonna end up being more interesting than anything is
if a team decides to move up a little bit.
If the Steelers say, you know what, Aaron Rodgers maybe
doesn't want to play, we gotta go get a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
We need to move up.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Some other teams designed to do that as well. What
do you what do you make of those types of scenarios.
So guys, here's let's.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
Let's talk about the Steelers right and in the Aaron
Rodgers situation, and you know kind of where they're at.
So my understanding is that you know, they when after
he left with a visit, they felt very strong that
he would sign with him, but he never told them
when and he never said for sure, but they felt
really good about their meeting. So Rogers, now this is fascinating.
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So the other complicated part to this was that it
was Rogers who called the Vikings, not the other way around.
Rogers actually called the Vikings. They were intrigued and flattered
that he called show interest in them, but they already
made a commitment of J. J. McCarthy's ready over after
his torminiscus, and everything I've been told privately is that
he's doing really well on his rehabit and he should
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be ready to go in a couple of weeks to
start throwing with his teammates and Ota. So they've left
the door just a jar, but it's it's highly unlikely
that it happens unless.
Speaker 10 (22:59):
Something happened with McCarthy. So Rogers doesn't have a lot
of options here.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Now.
Speaker 11 (23:05):
He did say to Pat McAfee, and this is interesting,
I didn't know about this, that it's okay. He's dealing
with some stuff personally that he needs to get through.
We don't know what that is, and that's okay. I
mean that we all have to deal with stuff in
a private life.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I think sometimes people just want stuff when they want
and they don't really know what's going on in somebody's life.
And it was honest for him to just say, hey,
I'm going through some stuff and I really got to
figure this out. And I think that's why the stealers
are We're just going to wait it out, you know
what I mean. It ain't like he's just and he
said he's talked to Mike Tomlin, so you know what
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I mean, He's got to have a feel of what's happening.
I want, you know, I'm intrigued by Shador Sanders, not
that sure. I just I hear so many different things.
I'm not where is he going? Is he going to
drop the twentieth? Is he going to be Aaron Rodgers?
You know, you remember that living I was.
Speaker 11 (24:01):
Doing television then in locally and Philly and Comcast Sportsnet,
and I remember the debate with Smith and Rogers. But
all right, Rob, here's where I'm at. He's gonna go
in the first round. Okay, this is let me just
let me just kind of break him down from the
way that offense coordinators and quarterback coach you see him.
It's a good he's a good college quarterback. You like
the football. IQ not the greatest athlete.
Speaker 10 (24:22):
In the world.
Speaker 11 (24:23):
You know, today's quarterbacks either drop pass or you could
really move his arm isn't great. There's some throws you
feel at when you break down his tape. Is he
on the size a little bit too or on me
six two but he's two twelve to fifteen, you don't
have it. But it's deceiving. It doesn't have the biggest frame, Frod.
It's it's interesting that you asked that.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
That's why I'm asking, because yeah, he's done the.
Speaker 10 (24:45):
Best frame in the world.
Speaker 11 (24:46):
Yes, and he's arm It is just okay, quite honestly,
have this been a better draft, he would not go
in the first round. This is just I know this
angers people who are big short of Santas fans with
Dion fans.
Speaker 10 (24:58):
It's just not a great process. He's a prospect.
Speaker 11 (25:01):
He's again if this is a is I have based
on the information I have, they are about ten players
of two first round grades. That means a bad draft.
Under under fifteen means it's not a good first round.
It's just not Shuder Sanders. I'd be floored if he
went in the top ten. And I'm saying I'm not
saying it's not going to happen. You know, the teams
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aren't Teams don't tell reporters what they're going to do.
But you can gather information and kind of know through
the grave. Fine, how they really feel. I'd be surprised
he went in the top ten. Now you mentioned the Steelers.
Let's get back to them before we move on here.
If the Steelers don't draft let's say Jackson dart or
Sanders or Jalen Milroe, although I think Milroe's more of
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a secon round pick. That's when they turned to the
veteran market. They've said publicly. I'm aware of it. I
know the way that Mason Rudolph is a solid backup.
He's a guy for three or four starts. You can
get away with it. In no way or shape or
form or that they satisfy with him to being start.
If they kick at Rogers, they don't get that first
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round quarterback that. I don't care what they say. He's
not that good of a quarterback, he say, Okay, back up, nothing.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
More, all right, Adam.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I want to ask you about a running back who
is making all the noise right now, Ashton Genty. We
know finalists for the Heisman. It's funny. One thing I
like about him. Let me tell you who loves some
Ashton Genty. Ashton genty.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
He loves.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
He loves himself in a good way, though, but he
keeps comparing himself to the greats. He's like, yeah, I'm
like Christian McCaffrey, a little bit of Barry Sanders, a
little bit of Derek Henry.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I'm like, WHOA did you leave anybody out a lot?
Speaker 6 (26:33):
I know?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, But when you look at him, that means run
the other way. I'm just saying, when you.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Look at him, at him and maybe a team like
the Raiders who have come out and said, hey, yo,
you know the GM loves coming from Michigan, love to
run the ball. You have Pete Carroll loves to run
the ballatly head coach exactly loves to run the ball.
What do you make of him going there pairing him
up with Gino? Is that enough to get an offense started?
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Well?
Speaker 11 (27:01):
See Pete, when he had person he actually had personnel control,
believe it or not. For a majority of his career
with the Seahawks, he just rarely used it. He would
defer to John Schneider the GM. But the year that
was shot, Penny came out. I'm told that that was
this guy that he wanted. So that's who they drafted
and unfortunately didn't work out. Penny got hurt, he had
just had a bad injury history. He was certainly overdrafted.
I would say that there's no question he was overdrafted.
(27:22):
But when it comes to.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
Gent, what's fascinating is if you talk to some teams.
Speaker 11 (27:27):
I know multiple teams have Omrion Hampton, the running back
from Carolina over him. Fans think I'm out of my mind,
but it's true. So yeah, look, yes it meets what
Carol would want. Though John spy Tech will make the call.
Their new general manager. Spy Tech has been very out
in the front about running back. Is his kid thinks
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he's crazy if he doesn't draft Gent. It's kind of
funny that. I don't know if he's trying to create
interest in the pick. It's just very odd to be
that out in front. No subst futige at all. It
wouldn't be a bad pick, and they're in dire straits
at running back. To be honest with you, they need one.
Pete wants to run the ball. In fact, look what
he did in twenty twenty doing the give you a
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twenty second story here in twenty twenty, when the Russ
Cooks season twenty twenty, where Russell Wilson had twenty eight
passing touchdowns in eight games, he said, for an NFL record.
Pete made the call for them to stop throwing the football.
That was his decision, he told Brian Schottenheimer, and they
clashed badly.
Speaker 10 (28:27):
He said, that's it. We're running the football. Our defense
is not good, so we got to control the clock,
which is bad coaching.
Speaker 11 (28:32):
But that was on Pete. So you know it's coming
here and that would fit certainly at running back. I
certainly could understand why people are saying it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
How about Kim Ward. We just don't hear anything.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
It's just he's going to one's going at one.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
But there's just no don't Yeah, is there anything to
look forward to us?
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (28:48):
He's good, Robby rob Let me tell you who he is.
And now he hadn't played a game, but he could
tell you where he's at with the NFL people. A
very strong NFL source told me that. And this guy's
information gathering. This guys all ball, okay, he said. Cam
Ward family in ball, ball and family. He don't care
about anything else extracurricular. He's about football, very serious about it.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Loves it.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
He's a little cocky, but that's okay. He's very confident.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Now.
Speaker 11 (29:15):
I'll tell you what the Titans they Their offensive line
had been one of the worst of the NFL for
a number of years. They've addressed in the last two years.
They have a chance to have a really good offensive line.
Speaker 10 (29:24):
At top ten.
Speaker 11 (29:25):
You're running back, they're okay receiver, they're not okay defense.
They need help, but at least they're building something there
and they're going to get cam Ward here. But I
will tell you before you get out of here, Travis
Hunter is the best player for this draft by far.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
And that's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I sometime when you have a guy like that, oh
you and you don't draft on you don't draft for
a position because you know, we always brought it up.
I bought this Zee Kelvin about the reason that the
Portland Trail Blazers didn't take Michael Jordan.
Speaker 10 (29:57):
Sam Buoye. Don't say no, no, no, because of.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Clyde Drechsler, you know what I mean, Like they already.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Had a goal, right, they had two guard, had a
two guard and you and you passed on Michael Jordan.
Can't do that, And that's what I'm saying, like, like
it's hard. Sometimes you gotta take no matter what you have.
If somebody is that good, you gotta take them.
Speaker 10 (30:17):
I would listen if if the three of us had
a vote.
Speaker 11 (30:21):
Let's say it was three of us running a franchise
and we had the first pick overall, we're probably going
to take Travis Hunter. We'll live with not having a
franchise quarterback potentially and cam Ward now that obviously it
leaves a major hall. We can't really go forward with
what we have. Will Evis isn't the answer. But I
feel good that we got the best player in the
draft now and who also could play too.
Speaker 10 (30:41):
Pusion we could.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Play right, there's two holes that may be a film.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I know.
Speaker 11 (30:46):
Well, you look, guys, we'll talk about this next week
and whenever we're on together next And you can't really
PLAYM A two for a long period of time physically.
Just the demands are strong coat from a coaching standpoint,
but game planning it's really tough.
Speaker 10 (30:59):
I don't see that. But yeah, this came. The stuff
with Hunters fascinating.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
I could tell you talking to so many people I trust,
it's not even close. Hunter is the best player for
this draft. We'll see if he plays out, if he
plays to that level. But on paper, he's just a
special player. And Rob, you're right. You don't want to
pass up on this place. You don't want to have
any regrets.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
No thing, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
All right, No, he's incredible and he could have been
on both best player on either side if he just
played that.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Hey, we appreciate you, Adam, thank you so much. We
got it. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
All right.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
There's somebody arrival of a team is calling out the
forty nine er saying, if you pay that man his
money is in party, that's going to mess up the team.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
We'll tell you who that is.
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Speaker 3 (33:05):
Oh, trans out to the ball, Take me out to
the crowd. What they gonna buy?
Speaker 6 (33:14):
You?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Buy me some peanuts and crack or jack your mind.
I don't care if I ever get back. Well, who
are rooting for?
Speaker 11 (33:25):
Root?
Speaker 10 (33:25):
Root for the whole?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
They don't win his shame? Here we go what one, two, two, three?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Out?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
And the Oh boy, sir, Oh, don't I feel like
we have the game right now?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I know, hey, you know this.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I was on an MLB network earlier this week on
I was watching you at my job job, Jackie Robinson,
Dad was on and the conversation turned to Juan Sota,
who we all know New York Mets right FIELDO signed
for seven one hundred and sixty five million dollars, as
(34:12):
you know, all guaranteed, right all, And he's been struggling
with the New York Metropolitans. I think it was one
for twenty two, one for twenty two, oh two for
twenty two, I should say after he made the first
out of the inning, it was two for twenty two.
(34:33):
And then he had an RBI single tonight. So he
didn't get a hit at a ren a run, which
is great. But he's been scuffling, and you know, on
Tuesday I said.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
It was time to officially call him once so so
not so, and we know how baseball goes.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
This guy's one of the best players in the game.
Right There's no ifans or buts about that.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
But is it foul or fair.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
To talk about his struggles even though we're not a
month into the season.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I'm gonna let you start first. It is it foul affair?
I think it's foul right now because of how early
the season is. And we know for a fact baseball
is a long season. And we went to marathon a marathon,
and we also know how many guys historically have started bad.
One of his old teammates, Tatis Junior, started a bat
(35:27):
a couple of seasons ago and then got it was
able to get it rolling. Aaron Judges started off okay,
then had a bad stretch last year last April, and
then got it back going again.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
So we've seen this in recent history. We've seen this
all the way back in long history.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
So that can happen from a batting average getting your
swing back home run standpoint. But where it is fair
to criticize and call him so so it is him
not understanding a few things, Rob, and.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
That is brother.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Nobody is gonna give you empathy, and nobody wants to
hear excuses anymore. Now that you are the seven hundred
and sixty million dollar man, nobody wants to hear. Oh man,
it's just not the same. I'm not hitting behind Aaron Judge.
But you can't say that now.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I know why would he? Why would he say that
on the record.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I'll tell you why, Rod, because he's not used to understanding.
You're now the Derek Jeter of how Derek g was
the face of the Yankees. You're now Clinton Kershaw is
the face of the Dodgers, where what you say matters
when you were just one of the guys and yeah,
your star, but you know, we really look for this
person and this person this person. We don't necessarily come
for you for what you're gonna say. You are the
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face of this team and the franchise. So when you
say why you're struggling, oh man, it was just so good.
I had an easy hitting behind Aaron Judge exactly, you're
hit by Pete a linezo. I think you're doing all right.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
And Pete is having a good season.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Pete's playing well exactly, so I think he's not understanding. Oh,
by the way, when I pay you this, Patrick Mahomes,
you're you know what I'm saying, give an example of
Lebron Steph. You're the face of a franchise now, so
nobody wants to hear excuses, especially this early on, just
saying I gotta get down to it, I gotta see
the ball better, I gotta you know, have a better
approach at bats. Don't make excuses about and already talk
(37:11):
about your X already. So that part of if you
want to criticize him and call him handling the media,
handling the pressure I think it's fair to say he's
won so so with that, but it's too early. I
think this foul to really criticize right now, three home
runs bating by what was it, two twenty ish, I
think he can get that rolling, but I think he
has to have an adjustment on his approach of being
(37:31):
the face of the league, face of a franchise, just
to say, answering questions, handling the media, and also how
he is having his report with his team, because I
don't want to hear that you're about to talk about
your other team.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Who was this and who was that?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Already It's not like you're reflecting five years later. So yeah,
so I think it's filed a question. I think I
think can get the bat warming up, But again, how
he's handling the rest of the stuff, it's fair to criticize.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, I just think that the same way if he
was batting three forty in Raking, we would be going crazy.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
So it's just natural to take a look.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Just because he's being called wan so so doesn't mean
that he's going to be wan so so all year
before the season started.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
And I'm not patting myself on the back. I'm just
giving you proof of performance. I said this that he
would struggle early on with the Mets. I've seen other
star players. Francisco Lindor got went there right, struggle, you
remember that, and people wanted to run him out of town.
And then all of a sudden now they love him
right because he Yeah, because he's turned it around and
(38:36):
he's fine. And I know people think, well, he's still
playing in New York. He played with the Yankees and
Mets are different teams, and I think that's where Jan
maybe before with the lineup with the Yankees and different stuff.
He can just as you talked about, he's one of
a couple of pieces. When you go to the Mets
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and you sign that deal, you are the piece. You
the piece, You're the piece. It's the whole party. Ain't
no sliced up part.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
It's the whole part.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yes, And teams now they do pitch to you differently.
We're not gonna let Wan Soto beat us right.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
No, exactly, And that's to me, when you you have to,
I would imagine if it ain't all about it, I
mean it's about the money, but I mean it's when
you take the money, you have.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
To consider everything and consider that.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Now again, things change around you, how they're pitching you,
who you are, You might not have as much support
you're not. This isn't show hey coming to the Dodgers
with Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts and Max Muntzi and
all these other guys behind Will Smith and so on
and so forth.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
You don't have all of that. You got talent, but
not all that. So you're not with the Yankees as
you were last season. So to me, again, you have
to anticipate that, right, you have to know this is
gonna happen. You also have to know Rrob Slump's are
gonna happen is baseball, so you don't have to be
down to the dumbs and already, right, and it's not
he's got a fourteen year contract. This is the first
three weeks. But relax, it's been a few weeks. You'll
(40:01):
be fine. You don't need to bring up your ex already.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
Right.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
It was weird that he would even say that to
the to the newspaper. This wasn't like he's saying exactly
like like.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
The best part, by the way, was Judge already kind
of I don't say refuting it, but like instead of
being like, oh man, he's so complimenting as my guy,
he was like, no, no, no, man, he's got.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Some guys over there.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Alonso is a beast, right he like he kind of truck. Like,
I don't want to don't make it about me. He's
got talent over there. He's good over there.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
I don't want to just sit up here and make
it like you should have left me. So I like
how Aaron Judge responded to that. I agree, and Mon Soda,
we know what kind of player he is.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
No one's saying he's going to be a bum for
fourteen years with the Mads, that he's not going to
be great.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Is this year one with the Padres, Yeah, where it
was just like ah man, it was just okay, right
we go.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
We got we got.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Many Machado, we got tattoos, Junior, we got one.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
So you're like right when you when they got them
and they didn't pan out. And I think there have
been a history of guys who have gone to the
Mets and from whatever. I have no idea why the
first year just doesn't seem to be the same. And
I don't know if teams just decide that's the big guy,
and we'll go after other people, do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (41:18):
And that's why I'm wondering.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Is this the first year of the padres with him
or is this the most of the season, especially the
postseason with the Yankees, you know where You're like, man,
he's coming up.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
And last year it's a different team, a different ballpark,
like Yankee Stadium, right like with the small right field porch,
it was a different It's a different crowd and the
Mets have their own team, you know, team and fans.
They're not selling out every night. We were sitting here
watching the games every night. Right the games are sold
out at Yankee Stadium almost every night of the Tuesday night.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
You got a big crowd. They're like, we're here, come on,
judge all of that. So I think I think he's
gonna be fine. Again, I don't.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
He has big He has a big enough track record
that you knowed he's going to be.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
But yeah, I think Scott Boris and the crew also
sit him down and understand, man, young man, this is
a long game, long season, long career, and you you know,
and also help him with the leadership into this so
that you can make it as you know, as as
tension free, as media drama free as possible, as as
a leader not just party understanding.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Hey man, you don't have to speak about this. You
don't have to.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
You know, it's okay to give shorter and hey, look,
you know right now the bad ain hitting.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
But it's a long season. I'm sure I'll fix you.
Speaker 10 (42:37):
Boop.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
That's a great hend, you know what I mean. You
don't have to to get into the right the Yankees
and Judge and all that.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
It just sounds like he'll learn that because I think again,
I think he's twenty six, and I think it's his
first time looking at as you are singularly, you know
the guy now, And there's a part of that that
you got to learn. And I think a lot of
athletes they forget that part of If you're John Morant,
I'm just twenty one. I'm twenty two at the time,
you know, twenty three living my life. I'm having fun,
(43:03):
I got money, I'm with my boys that I grew
up with. It's like, yeah, but you're also the face
of a franchise now.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
You know on your chest is the name of a city.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Yeah, And and they've poured resources into you. They poured money,
they're here to and you gotta act accordingly. And I
think sometimes young people forget that, like, it's not just
the money, it's also you leading in organization. We're paying
you for that as well, not just the hits, home
runs and the great catches.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I'll be curious to see where people say eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Is it foul or fair to call one sodo one
so so in the first month of the season.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Are people just being way too oversensitive about this or
is this does it fit?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Or is this just about the money he makes?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
He makes seven hundred and sixty five million dollars, So
when you're batting two twenty, people aren't gonna call you out.
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